Yea who voted a literal child that died cruelly Edit: not to be that guy- TOO BAD THANKING PEOPLE IS NICE (I think) ty for 37 likes :) Edit 2: wow uhm- I’m lost for words but ty for 64 likes :D
I think the people who voted Snowkit were mad about the ableism behind his role in the story rather than hating Snowkit himself. Like a vote for him was a vote for "why did you put a deaf character in the book just to kill him?" That or they're trolling
@@whiskerburrtangle Look, this isn't an attack, because I used to think along similar lines, and I think this attitude is pretty common in the fandom. But you're using realism & nature to defend the writing choices of a book series that is famously unrealistic. Real cats form loose colonies where the males leave as they mature, nothing as structured as a Clan. Real cats do not practice monogamy. Real cats do not have a concept of medicine or religion. Never mind the more outright fantastical elements, like their religion actually being 100% true or some cats having magical powers. And to be clear, the series having these traits is not a bad thing! It's what makes warriors fun and engaging. But the question that was put to me, and now I'm putting to you is this: if you can accept, even enjoy, these blatantly unrealistic elements, does it not seem hypocritical to use realism or nature to defend the writing choices around Snowkit? That you're able to suspend your disbelief for polyglot ghost badgers, but not for the idea a deaf kitten might have made it past his childhood? Honestly, if Snowkit had been hearing, that scene would have worked just as well. Hearing kittens in the wild do get carried off by hawks and other predators. They didn't, and that was a choice. Writing him as deaf only to kill him off within a few chapters shows an unconscious bias on the author's part that deaf characters, and by extension, deaf people, are more expendable. That's the ableist part. (Especially given that Snowkit is still the only character out of thousands who was born deaf, and didn't become deaf as he aged. Statistically, that's just. Extremely unlikely. Unrealistic, we might say.) As a fandom, we can do better than accepting conditional realism. We can do better than only caring about "nature" when it's time to justify killing a disabled character.
he is most definitely a character, mentioned often by Sol's mother and appearing in the book, but honestly I found that out from the wiki so I get not realizing.
Sleekwhisker is a jerk but she's also a girlboss. Her bad adittude makes her fun. As for Jayfeather, he can be grating at times and the fandom is over saturated with his fan content so it's kinda understandable. I honestly don't have much of an opinion on him.
i think it's because more people have read books with jayfeather in them than sleekwhisker as she appears way later, plus jayfeather is pretty polarising on his own anyway
@@Lobbyhoe_Ruhn너 I like Jayfeather nowadays, but the only reason is due to his Barnes and Noble exclusive chapter where it added a lot of depth to his character. I thought he was insufferable as a kid when I read POT and OOTS… in a more recent read through I actually enjoyed his character though
brightheart is overrated and i hate her tbh, her whle personality is being sowwy about her scar, tbh i think that its brighthearts fault for even going w swiftpaw and making people hate swiftpaw
Anyone who voted for a character that few people hate, explain your reasoning! I'll go first! I hate Hailstar because he's treated like a wise and good leader but in reality he's pathetic. He fails to fight back for Sunning Rocks or Willowbreeze and Graypool untill much later but mostly I hate how he treated Crookedkit. He acts all sorry for changing his name when in reality he could've just said no to Rainflower. The leader's word is law, afterall. At least Rainflower's interesting.
Wait that's so true lol, I didn't even think about that! I Hate Jayfeather cause even when cats are trying to help him, he gets mad, I know that's part of his character but it can get annoying.
I voted for Arc and Turtle tail, and my reasonings are that Arc came across as super pushy and like he felt entitled to Riverstar and his help and he wasn’t even acting as a great friend or mentor and almost killed them all a few times 😂 Turtle tail also came across as kinda pushy and sassy to gray wing for not realizing she liked him when she never told him and I never forgave her for being angry at gray wing when he pushed the kits off him because he couldn’t breathe 😭😂 and I just liked Slate better Not the biggest gray wing fan ever either tho lolol
i hate stemleaf so much, reason: BECAUSE BRISTLEFROST WAS DENIED, stemleaf denied bristlefrost. and bristlefrost X stemleaf would be a great ship. and bristlefrost is my baby girl
@@Softwing_ ...HOW DARE YOU, HE IS JUST INDEPENDENT. ITS NOT ANNOYING....ITS DRAMATIC, HES SENSITIVE AND HAS ANGER ISSUES, MY 2ND FAV CAT CANT BE DENIED
Yes brambleclaw was at least okay when he was in the new prophecy that's when I actually liked him should I have not read spotted leaves heart but thistleclaw sounds... Just.... Meanie >:C
Me: I wish Akira could post the most hated cats soon Akira: *Everyone’s most hated cats video* Me: HELL YEAH! Edit: this is the most likes I’ve gotten :) THANK YOU. Edit: Not to be that person, but thank you for likes. This is the most I’ve ever gotten rlly. Edit: OMG I’M GETTING MORE LIKES
I really want to like Ivypool but the fandom has just ruined her for me with all the needless Dovewing hate. I think the sisters have a lot of the same flaws that haters of either sister like to point out. But I feel like I’ve seen so many more people put Ivy on a pedestal and hate on Dove and that’s honestly made me resent Ivypool more. I’m trying to get over this bias and understand why other people love her so much (and then maybe I can appreciate her character) but the fandom has made that so difficult.
Dovewing drove me crazy when I first read the series because I was so used to reading Hollyleaf's POV, and I thought that Dovewing was a bit of a Mary-Sue in contrast. But now that I'm older and Dovewing has developed, I really like her- especially because of her role in Tigerheartstar's novel and the later books. However Ivypool still brings me a lot of joy and I love them both.
I have to agree about the unnecessary Dovewing/Ivypool arguments but I once had eight different people breathing down my neck simply for saying I like Ivypool. I guess weird hate is on both sides.
@@CreatureCreations- Yeah, I tried to highlight that in my comment, I’ve just seen it manifest more with people hating on Dovewing in my experience. And I will say, I’ve only read Ivy as an apprentice. So a lot of my dislike for her comes from how cruel she is to Dovepaw who only ever tries to give to their relationship. I know she supposedly gets better and from what I’ve heard, so goes through a lot of growth. But the unnecessary hate of dove while putting Ivy on a pedestal for many of the same issues Ivy has has likely forever soured my feelings on Ivy.
@@ladykatie8204 You're totally right. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a video not about the new book wouldn't have spoilers about the new book. Even if it is from the same franchise.
I would like Grey Wing...if the narrative actaully treated him as though he were morally grey. Conceptually, I want to like Grey Wing (and Clear Sky), but the author's seemed afriad to actaully write him as though he was ever anything other than wise and in the right. Its not that i dont like morally grey characters, i just wish the Erins would write morally grey characters that are actaully treated as morally grey.
It's definitely a weird dissonance between fandom, the writing, and the intentions of the writers. I definitely don't think Brambleclaw is deserving of #1 though, especially above characters like Thistleclaw, Rainflower, Tom, etc. Clear Sky and Sandgorse actually embody more of the character that people hate when they think of Brambleclaw imo, both are a lot worse than him without it ever being addressed / resolved fully (a little arguable with Clear Sky, but since it fell flat for many readers I think it's a fair point). I don't know if people remember Sandgorse all that well, but the way he treated Tallstar and the effect his verbal and emotional abuse had (especially after his death) literally made me sob my eyes out as a child when I read Tallstar's revenge. There's for sure quite a few issues with how Brambleclaw is written and I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of the points people bring up, but also a lot of it is blown a little out of proportion. I really don't think the writers ever intended for him to be that way and it's moreso the result of poor writing. But mainly I really love Bramblekit/Bramblepaw and he adds unique value to those early books. Kinda makes me wish they had written a different story for him or Brackenfur'ed him, but oh well
See, villains are characters you're meant to dislike. They're doing their job if you hate them.... But a poorly written character the writers kiss the ass of while the character is just a god-awful person is.... infuriating.
nah thistleclaw defenders are valid. he used to be surprisingly well-liked cause bluestar's prophecy didn't actually give us proper reasons for why he was so "evil" so the erins got mad at his fans and retconned him into the worst kind of person they could think of to go "SEE?? he WAS super duper evil all along" 10 years later
this is just proving my point that the Dovewing hate, though much much better than it used to be, is NOT at all gone, even in the slightest. like Akira said, a lot of fans here watch Moonkitti and I know Akira likes Dove too. yet she STILL managed to get in the top 20. a few years ago, she would have gotten 1st without question. it's really sad, she's a good and relatable character that did nothing wrong. JUSTICE FOR DOVEWING.
As A Dovewing disliker who tries their hardest to like her all I can say this (sigh) JUSTICE FOR DOVEWING !! (Because as much as I don’t like her that much she Fr isn’t that bad 😭)
Mapleshade and Tigerstar are perhaps one of my top two favorite villains. Of course, put them in front of me and I will happily beat them up for doing awful things. Tigerstar is written amazingly! As for Mapleshade, her book isn't great (I'll need to reread it maybe too just to know how bad), but her motivations make a lot of sense. Her whole Clan turned on her, kicked her out. Instead of helping, both her supposed friend and scummy mate (and his Clanmates) watched on as she struggled to get her kits across (imo, Apple and those Clanmates should have been punished for breaking a code regarding those poor kits). Then they dragged her out, and ridiculed her then chased her back out. Is murder the answer to any of that? Absolutely not. But she's already a villain, and is meant to be a villain. She just got hit with like, a million horrible events with no time to process it and no one to confide in that she can trust. (Some may say the random barn cat--but she JUST lost everything in one day, and she was taught not to trust or confide in non-Clan cats. Also he felt so random, useless, and out of place if irc. Book would be better without him to solidify that aloneness some more.) I shall scuttle away from my podium now, that was not meant to be super long but, never got to properly tangent about Mapleshade till now. *wheeze*
@@MatthewChase-nh9lrAgreed. Interesting as an actual character (ish) but that’s really all she has going for her imo. And Tigerheart just sucks. Hope he’s gone by the next series
Yellowfang haters are probably mad about her StarClan appearances rather than how she was when she was alive. Or haters of her super edition. Arc 1 Yellowfang is a pretty unanimously loved character. Unlike arc 1 Bluestar, whose mental breakdown really divides the fandom on whether she's a good character or not. I'm on the side of thinking she's one of the most *interesting*. Brambleclaw's worst crime to me is being disappointing. He has this whole arc about not becoming like his father, then he... trains with Tigerstar and Hawkfrost in the dark forest? He's scared of being too ambitious, but then he gets to be leader and everyone loves him. A huge emotional drive of the Broken Code arc is trying to get him back to the living, but it's kind of unbelievable that Squirrelflight still loves him that much after how he's treated her. Saying he's better than Ashfur is damning by faint praise.
As for Yellowfang, I didn't take part in the vote but I really don't like her. It's not that deep for me honestly, she's just old and grumpy which just isn't my cup of tea. I also feel like the books really tried to make her look gross with the knotted fur and yellow teeth and stuff. It kinda icks me out. Her in StarClan was pretty much just worse. But I wouldn't really call myself a Yellowfang hater, I do get why people like her. She's just really not for me.
14:04 i've heard the issue isn't her being overrated, it's cuz she's overUSED. she's relevant to just about every little thing. kinda makes you wonder why she needed 9 lives after al the crap she went through with just 1
@@yay29823the difference between Mothwing and Squirrelflight is that Mothwing doesn't get pushed to the center of attention. Sure, she had relevance a lot, but she's not usually in the middle of drama like Squirrelflight is.
@@moonliteevee It's so weird to me the concept of not liking a character because their relevancy remains consistent, but sure, it's way better than what the reply above mine says
Was surprised to see Needletail so low on the list. She was responsible for me no longer reading the latest books (though, what they've put out about Moonpaw is tempting me). Seeing her be treated as a valiant but mislead cat rather the irresponsible jerk she came across as infuriated me. I was kinda hoping Bramble wouldn't rank #1 (hopelessly attached to this guy since childhood because my first set of books was TNP) but it wasn't unexpected. The number of villains high on the list did surprise me, though. Unless a villain does something particularly infuriating or I find them very poorly written, I usually don't care too much. They're villains. They're gonna be bad people and do bad things. Duh.
I read a portion of TBC, but I never finished the arc. I stopped after The Silent Thaw. Up until AvoS, I had read every single arc from start to finish at least once. Since I haven't completed an arc since AvoS (and actually haven't touched ASC at all), I consider AvoS to be the arc I "stopped reading" Warriors at.
I think she's both mislead and an irresponsible jerk, but she's a very messy character in a good way that makes her more compelling, like with Hollyleaf. Also most people either haven't read or forgot AVOS so that explains her being lower than more popular first arc cats.
Same my first books were the new prophecy and I grew really attached to bramble! I like the Brambleclaw that is from the new prophecy not the new one that is abusive to squirrel
@@Mrnnkiah alright. Avos was my least favorite series, probably, but The Broken code emotionally destroyed me so it made me get over the series before it. Honestly, I don't remember most of what happened in AVOS
Me, nodding: Uh huh. I get it, well loved characters in the fandom are bound to also have some haters. Nothing to do about it. *notices someone voted Badgerfang* WHO VOTES FOR BADGERFANG????
“11th most hated cat bad? I don’t think so.” He asked Dovewing about having kits at Purdy’s FUNERAL. That by itself probably gets him a lot of hate because of how tone-deaf and disrespectful that is.
I'm always happy to vote for these videos! Also Akira your usually really good for warning about spoilers from new books but you said who was the new RiverClan leader and i was kinda dissapointed since i hadn't had the chance to pick up star and i was excited to see who the new leader would be by reading the book
Me: as long as Crowfeather doesn't get 20 votes I'm happy. Me: Alright as long as he does get 30 votes I'm happy. Me: as long as he isn't in the top 20 I'm happy. Me : as long as he isn't in the top 10 I'm happy. HE'S ONLY 19TH PLACE :D
I genuinely don’t like tigerstar because of how he died, I don’t hate him, I just think it’s anticlimactic to have him killed by another villain without putting up a fight, also it’s kind off annoying that the 1st arc had 3 main villains, not counting dark stripe though cause he’s just a villain to sorrelkit 😢
Longtail deserved better, yes at the first few books he was a brat, but he litterally found out that one of his best friends was veil and he was getting better, then they decided to say Let’s blind him and not even add it to a the main part of the series, and he was litterally blind and traveled over the mountains, and in the wiki, said he was one of the most eager to keep going and never got tired.
I dislike squrrielstar for what she did to nightheart. Like how she treated him on his tests to be a warrior. But also thistle claw deserved 1st place how’d brambleclaw beat him vro.
bramblestar is in nearly every single main series book while thistleclaw only appears explicitly in novellas and super editions. brambleclaw is more hated because he is more well known.
We shouldn't just blame the Mapleshade fans for Ravenwing being here, I don't particularly like her but he's garbage. Yes, he's a medicine cat but he was well aware of the fact that young kittens would be exiled and did nothing to stop Oakstar even though as his medicine cat he had all power to. Appledusk and Frecklewish were innocent but Ravenwing was not.
I probably haven't read Maple shade's vengeance that good but that's a pretty valid point frecklewish is not Innocent in my opinion. There is a rule in the warrior code that states that no cat must neglect a kit in need even if that kit is from another clan. I honestly think she deserves it but it's my opinion.
i forgot to vote and am so mad about that 💀💀 but if i could’ve i would’ve definitely voted for dovetail and squirrelstar , im worried now that one of their die hard fans will show up at my door 🙏
@@sawtist I respect that you dislike both of them. Personally I love Squirrelstar and DESPISE Bramblestar. It’s fine that you don’t like both, just my personal preference for voting on who you dislike would be Bramblestar if I were in your shoes.
Brambleclaw being first surprised me a bit. I get it, he’s definitely a dislikable character as of Squirrelflight’s Hope, which is the only warriors book I’ve ever stopped reading out of frustration (towards his horrid behaviour), but I don’t think he’s nearly as hate-able as some characters. I was surprised he ranked higher than Thistleclaw and Rainflower. He was interesting in TNP. He’s been emotionally abusive and Squirrelstar should break up with him, but as I mentioned I think he at least had some interesting arcs earlier on, which spares him from being a character I unequivocally dislike. It’s more mixed feelings for me personally. I am very glad Clear Sky/Skystar was second place. I am a proud Clear Sky hater. LOL (Side Note: My favourite highly-hated characters are Tigerstar 2.0 and Dovewing. I’m 19 and a lot of my opinions formed when I read the books at 7-14 though since I haven’t reread the older ones since then so this could have changed lol.)
Wasn't surprised at all. The poll is usually Akira's main audience which is also cross over of Bliximi and Moonkitti, all those creators are very big Squirrel, and Leaf lovers which into turn their main audience tends to be. I was 100% expecting Bramble to be #1. That being said I do think it's only because if the limited audience polled. I do not think if the larger fanbase was polled he'd be #1, top 10 for sure and probably top 5 but 1? I dont see how you argue Ashfur is better than Bramble in any realm. People just like Squirrel so their hate for Bramble is amplified. I'm not a Bramble lover, to me he is pretty boring and both cats in SquirrelXBramble are problematic, obviously Brmable is worse but neither are good for each other. People get mad that Bramble was mad at Squirrel for lying about Holly, Jay, and Lion. That is a reasonable thing to be mad about. And honestly I think it would have been a great place to end their relationship. I'm not someone who likes Squirrel, I think fandom Squirrel is infinitely more likeable than canon Squirrel so maybe that just makes my hate in Bramble a bit less idk. Obviously everyone is bias but I think there's so many worse cats worthy of that #1 and truly think it's mainly just bias of the polled group. Most of these comments are just about Squirrel, which just goes to show how many of the viewers love her. I dont understand how Squirrel lovers dont vote Ash more, my main guess is that he is dead now while we still have to tolerate Bramble. For me it's just so hard to hate purely for the relationship thing because I truly believe most of it is just really really bad writing execution. The side characters always act like the relationship is just one of those 'push each other buttons but love each other' type of trope, which I do truly think is the intent. But in true Warriors Cats writing fashion they forget to actually show the 'love' part and only show the 'push each others buttons' so it comes out as this truly toxic horrible to read relationship. I think the writers are stating to see their fail and pushing Bramble to the side, I just wish they broke them up earlier (I do love Alderheart so maybe after he was born). If I'm honest I'm so tired of the cats from the second series I'm not inclined to read until they are all dead. Aside from Crow I dont think they were that intresting espically Squirrel and Bramble. They have had enough spotlight
From what I've seen, it's way more likely for a Squilf lover to like Ashfur as well, but hate Bramble. It's a weird phenomenon, but I've seen it a lot. Over the top of my head I can remember two content creators who are like this: Moonkitti is the most obvious one. She Loves squirreflight, and she has said many times she really likes Ashfur. Akira loves Squilf as well, and I'm pretty sure has put Ashfur on the top of the list of best villains @@finnsnow2495
Me looking at the poll remembering I can't use my rewrite and how strange it would look to say I ship Stormfur with Cherrytail (Midnight tells them to save SkyClan and then move the clans)
I am SHOCKED Brambleclaw was more hated than Tom or Clear Sky! Like I definitely expected him to be well hated but to be the number 1 hated? Dang I didn’t realize how many people hated him.
21:59 he absolutely deserved 2nd place, he literally did so much wrong. I bet the only reason he got into starclan was because they couldn’t put a founding leader into the dark forest
Okay, so, Daisy. I LOVE her, so I'm sad she got voted. And I gotta disagree with ya, Akira, Bluestar was SO interesting throughout the books, be it "Bluestar's Prophecy" or, my personal favourite, "A Dangerous Path". And lastly, I voted Tigerstar (Tigerclaw), not because he's a bad villain, but because he's evil and he totally destroyed Bluestar. She got a sort of dementia BECAUSE of him. And Tigerstar just cause so much destruction, and he killed Brindleface. He really made me sad throughout the books, even though his death was really scary and sad. But overall, thank you Akira!
As a certified Squirrelflight Hater ™, a lot of it is because the fandom hardly ever acknowledges how she's written in the actual text. They will go out of their way to say x or y isn't canon ("no, she took the three out of the goodness of her own heart, canon doesn't exist!" "i'm going to ignore her telling Jayfeather he can't blame her and to blame Leafpool," etc) but don't want to like her for her entire personality. Ironically, I LIKE actual canon Squirrelflight. Headstrong, bold, but above all... self-serving. Her taking the three for her own wants? Canon. Her yelling at old man, sickly Blackstar in his own camp while Bramblestar tells her to stop? Canon. Her telling Jayfeather not to blame her because it was Leafpool? Canon. Her refusing to support Sunbeam outright in wanting to help her family, to potentially save face politically? Canon. And none of that makes her a bad character. In fact, "above all, I and mine need to survive," is one of my favorite traits in a character. And Squirrel has it in bucket loads - that's why she was willing to go completely nuclear during the fire scene and jumped there so fast. Sure, there could have been other ways out of the situation, but getting out quickly and all four of them surviving was the important part. But the fandom just holding up this version of Squirrelflight that doesn't exist and worshiping it as the best is soooo irritating. And this isn't from a place of Brambleclaw or Ashfur love - in fact, I dislike both of them, and their existence means very little for how I feel about Squirrelflight, as the reasons I dislike her are almost completely fandom-based. If the fandom didn't exist she'd probably rank higher for me, though TNP Squirrel would still be one of my least favorite characters of all time.
THIS, I completely agree with this. Squirrelflight is extremely morally gray, and the fact that the fandom tries to portray her as this “Badass Queen who can do no wrong” is mildly infuriating,.
I'm in the same boat as you 😔I gasped when Akira spoiled the ending and immediately paused the video. But it was too late. I'm devastated that I won't be able to learn this major plot point in "Star" for myself.
19:14 between the misoginy, abusing his mate, having a loathsome personality, and being both the ugliest and fattest antagonist, he was a trump allegory before trump's first presdental campaign (since dawn of the clans takes place in the 1980s)
Personally I actually always liked Darkstripe specifically because he is an uncool villain. The way the narrative just kept walking all over him, especially in later books, made him more entertaining to me. It's kind of a "you love to hate him" relationship lol
Bramble is an amazing character, he is not abusive and was a great leader until he suffered PTSD. The fact that those are opinions of Squirrelstar, their Clanmates, Squirrel's parents, rest of StarClan, and the authors themselves should have made this clear. He and Squirrel aren't perfect, neither as couple nor as themselves, they have flows (I would argue that Squirrelstar had more of those) but that's what makes them so great and interesting compared to all the other relationships^^
He was soooo boring and mean compared to Bramblepaw, sorry not sorry. And couples that always fight like Squirrel and Bramble aren't cute, they're toxic af.
14:51 eh Crow can be attributed to the fact that originally he was negligent and abusive from what Jayfeather saw in Breezepelts emotions. He did get retconed to not be that though... which well You can say he isn't and never was now... but you still originally wrote him like that and that bitter taste lingers.
12:05 This is super late but I actually think Gray Wing deserves the hate he got. he’s constantly body shaming the kitty pets, and dislikes Bumble right away for her being plump. (He also does the same for Tom but that guy is a jerk so- (still wrong though)) he’s a bit possessive of Turtle Tail to me, mad whenever she’s hanging out with Bumble but never giving a reason why he thinks that way and doesn’t value her opinions, and when she’s showing interest into Bumble’s den, he doesn’t try to care. BUT gets upset when she isn’t very interested into him talking about Storm. He’s oblivious to Turtle Tail’s feelings or just doesn’t care, and also Storm’s, not caring when she’s uncomfortable to him pushing his religion on her and constantly inviting her to his kitty cult. Then how he treats Bumble when she’s trying to get a hide out after Tom beats her randomly. He’s mad at her when she just appears thinking only how she interrupted his time with the kits and Turtle Tail (which he only starts to care for after his second love interest dies and Gray Wing can’t go on for two minutes without a woman) when Bumble is covered in scratches. He doesn’t try to help her at all despite clearly being abused and thinks how she should be fine with Tom’s treatment just because he doesn’t want to deal with her and she’s “lazy” and “plump” and sends her back to her abuser, which indirectly leads to her death. (Other cats in this scene do also act pretty bad but they keep putting Gray Wing in the light where he’s this compassionate and kinda person, which he really isn’t most of the time) Gray Wing is bad because he’s possessive and oblivious, and pretty self centered most of the time, only thinking about his wants. what makes him a hatable character like Bramblestar is because he’s shown to be this white and pure character who only ever done good, which leaves a very sour taste in my mouth after reading him deny a abuse victim for just being fat and sends them back because he thinks it’s not that big of a deal?? Hollyleaf isn’t my top favorites, but I know why people like her; I’m clueless how people like Gray Wing if it isn’t just him being a total Reddit guy
@@BR3AK.66 Shrewtooth was like, one of the only bright spots in Skyclan's Destiny for me and I'm so sad it seems the writing team just forgot he existed
Me hearing the sentence "do not be upset if ur fav character is the most hated or something I can't remember the sentence" Me: knowing that my fav character is brokenstar
I think people hated the Starclan Yellowfang because when she was alive, she was basically this tough,sassy and wise grandma you can look up to and always talk to but when she died and became a Starclan half of her character and personality either changed or disappeared
No because she lied to Squirrelflight and then had the nerve to be apart of their StarClan trial like she didn't directly influence what happened ON TOP of more or less doing the same thing. Living sassy Yellowfang was amazing, her in StarClan is horrible.
12:32 nah keep Pinestar away from kids, the further away from apprentices the better. Weirdo feel in a love with a kid then cat married her as soon as she became a warrior.
I don't think Brambleclaw deserve all the hate. Almost all the people who hate them are always behind fandom opinion. I used to hate him too but then I read the books and he wasn't bad tbh. My boy deserves compression
I kinda agree. I have issues with how he's written and I understand the sentiment but... #1 is insane, the hate is blown way out of proportion for what's actually written in the books themselves (at least in comparsion to other characters).
Ugh same. I’m so thoroughly sick of watching people assume malicious intentions from him in literally every situation. Some people seem to think that the only possible motivation he could ever have is to hurt Squirrelflight.
He got pretty boring after he became leader, I liked him in arcs 1 and 3 much better Also he had this whole thing in tnp about being afraid of becoming like his dad (and being afraid of being ambitious) and then he throws it all away to go train with tigerstar and hawkfrost in the dark forest pretty much instantly
ranking brambleclaw as worse than a literal child groomer (thistleclaw) or an attempted kit murderer (darkstripe) is absolutely insane like you can tell brambleclaw was only rated the worst because of braindead moonkitti fans
My favorite number was so close to the amount of votes, the votes were 1598- my favorite number is 1589 Also, NO NOT MOTH FLIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is best character, not enough love is given to her!!! Same with Gray Wing, Everyone is so mean to the good characterssss..... Same with Star Flower and Skystar........ they are such well written characters......................
Who voted Badgerfang and Wishkit?? 😭
Yea who voted a literal child that died cruelly
Edit: not to be that guy- TOO BAD THANKING PEOPLE IS NICE (I think) ty for 37 likes :)
Edit 2: wow uhm- I’m lost for words but ty for 64 likes :D
And snowkit.
@NovaRaptor14 and princess who has beef with princess?.?
@NovaRaptor14 it’s okay it’s just funny how people have beef with some cats
it was most likely for how the fan base treats them obviously that’s not the characters fault but that’s probably the reason
I think the people who voted Snowkit were mad about the ableism behind his role in the story rather than hating Snowkit himself. Like a vote for him was a vote for "why did you put a deaf character in the book just to kill him?" That or they're trolling
my thoughts exactly! I think it makes a lot of sense to dislike a character for how they were handled
How is that ableist? I do agree that killing him off was pointless and honestly distracted from everything else, but I don’t see how that’s ableist.
@@MrOceMcCool Making a disabled character literally just to kill off doesn't sound ableist to you?
wouldve happened though. a deaf animal being carried off by a hawk doesnt seem abliest, its nature
@@whiskerburrtangle Look, this isn't an attack, because I used to think along similar lines, and I think this attitude is pretty common in the fandom. But you're using realism & nature to defend the writing choices of a book series that is famously unrealistic.
Real cats form loose colonies where the males leave as they mature, nothing as structured as a Clan. Real cats do not practice monogamy. Real cats do not have a concept of medicine or religion. Never mind the more outright fantastical elements, like their religion actually being 100% true or some cats having magical powers.
And to be clear, the series having these traits is not a bad thing! It's what makes warriors fun and engaging. But the question that was put to me, and now I'm putting to you is this: if you can accept, even enjoy, these blatantly unrealistic elements, does it not seem hypocritical to use realism or nature to defend the writing choices around Snowkit? That you're able to suspend your disbelief for polyglot ghost badgers, but not for the idea a deaf kitten might have made it past his childhood?
Honestly, if Snowkit had been hearing, that scene would have worked just as well. Hearing kittens in the wild do get carried off by hawks and other predators. They didn't, and that was a choice. Writing him as deaf only to kill him off within a few chapters shows an unconscious bias on the author's part that deaf characters, and by extension, deaf people, are more expendable. That's the ableist part. (Especially given that Snowkit is still the only character out of thousands who was born deaf, and didn't become deaf as he aged. Statistically, that's just. Extremely unlikely. Unrealistic, we might say.)
As a fandom, we can do better than accepting conditional realism. We can do better than only caring about "nature" when it's time to justify killing a disabled character.
I appreciate the fact that you actually accepted "Sol's father" as an entry dispite him literally not being a character unless I'm horribly mistaken.
he is most definitely a character, mentioned often by Sol's mother and appearing in the book, but honestly I found that out from the wiki so I get not realizing.
He is genuinely the worst tho, reread skyclan and the stranger. he just goes to cinders like "We're getting divorced, cry about it"
Any cat who has a character profile on the warrior wiki counted, and Sol's father has one
He is mentioned in Skyclan and the Stranger.
He is in skyclan and The stranger and apparently on the wiki his name is whisper??
Acorn fur getting ZERO vote for both most hated and liked be like:
Thx for all the likes:)
Mid lol
very mid
probably because she talks like twice LMAOO
@@CrimmyCrimLikesMurderDrones I love Acorn Fur
Wait, does that mean no one rembers Acorn?LOL who is Acorn again?
SO HAPPY WE GOT TOM INTO THE TOP 10!!!
bro deserves it
EW I HATE TOM WITH MY LIFE CLENCHES FIST
GRRR YEAHHH WE HATE TOM HERE
I'd be literally SCARED if somebody is actually a FAN of HIM 😭😭
@ he is in dawn of the clans
(Won’t let me @ people for some reason-) Tom is a character from DOTC, he’s the worst.
I feel like Sol is cartoonishly evil, like he would totally rub his paws together while scheming
It's giving muahehehehehehe 😈
New headcannon
I just can‘t get over the fact that Jayfeather is more hated than Sleekwisker qwq
Sleekwhisker is a jerk but she's also a girlboss. Her bad adittude makes her fun. As for Jayfeather, he can be grating at times and the fandom is over saturated with his fan content so it's kinda understandable. I honestly don't have much of an opinion on him.
@@applesplashwarriorcats8339 She's a murderer who is allowed back into Shadowclan for no reason, that's my point of view on her.
i think it's because more people have read books with jayfeather in them than sleekwhisker as she appears way later, plus jayfeather is pretty polarising on his own anyway
@@Lobbyhoe_Ruhn너 I like Jayfeather nowadays, but the only reason is due to his Barnes and Noble exclusive chapter where it added a lot of depth to his character. I thought he was insufferable as a kid when I read POT and OOTS… in a more recent read through I actually enjoyed his character though
@@legrandliseurtri7495 Well it's not her fault ShadowClan was that stupid 😂
BRO WHY PEOPLE HATE BRIGHTHEART?! She’s literally the best she-cat in the series! Dang, I’m surprised Firestar is that hated.😕
honestky I liked brightheart until I read about cloudtail.. sure swiftoaw died but you could’ve done so much better.
People might hate firestar because they feel the idea of a cat having alot plot armour. Its just a guess btw so yeah
@@xxratsrcutexx3494 true the jayfeather fans may not like her as much but i like them both so idk-
i completely agree
brightheart is overrated and i hate her tbh, her whle personality is being sowwy about her scar, tbh i think that its brighthearts fault for even going w swiftpaw and making people hate swiftpaw
Badgerfang I will defend your honor!
Anyone who voted for a character that few people hate, explain your reasoning! I'll go first!
I hate Hailstar because he's treated like a wise and good leader but in reality he's pathetic. He fails to fight back for Sunning Rocks or Willowbreeze and Graypool untill much later but mostly I hate how he treated Crookedkit. He acts all sorry for changing his name when in reality he could've just said no to Rainflower. The leader's word is law, afterall. At least Rainflower's interesting.
Wait that's so true lol, I didn't even think about that! I Hate Jayfeather cause even when cats are trying to help him, he gets mad, I know that's part of his character but it can get annoying.
I voted for Arc and Turtle tail, and my reasonings are that Arc came across as super pushy and like he felt entitled to Riverstar and his help and he wasn’t even acting as a great friend or mentor and almost killed them all a few times 😂
Turtle tail also came across as kinda pushy and sassy to gray wing for not realizing she liked him when she never told him and I never forgave her for being angry at gray wing when he pushed the kits off him because he couldn’t breathe 😭😂 and I just liked Slate better
Not the biggest gray wing fan ever either tho lolol
i hate stemleaf so much, reason: BECAUSE BRISTLEFROST WAS DENIED, stemleaf denied bristlefrost. and bristlefrost X stemleaf would be a great ship. and bristlefrost is my baby girl
@@Softwing_ ...HOW DARE YOU, HE IS JUST INDEPENDENT. ITS NOT ANNOYING....ITS DRAMATIC, HES SENSITIVE AND HAS ANGER ISSUES, MY 2ND FAV CAT CANT BE DENIED
@@lynnbissonnette I don't hate everything about him. But rlly sometimes it gets on my nerves. I respect your opinion tho.
I definitely agree with the Brambleclaw hate, but imo Thistleclaw should have been the most hated.
Naah Darkstripe or Tom. At least Thistleclaw is interesting
YO! I’m so happy to be one of the 1598 people who voted!
Edit: Ik everyone says this but thank you guys for 100 likes!
Me too!
Same here :)
Same here
Same! 😊
Hear me out-switch brambleclaw and thistleclaw. Please. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Please, thistle deserves it more
Yes brambleclaw was at least okay when he was in the new prophecy that's when I actually liked him should I have not read spotted leaves heart but thistleclaw sounds... Just.... Meanie >:C
Ain’t no way this got in my recommended 28 SECONDS after it was posted 😭
2 mins for me >:(
Same!
11 for me
Ain't no way I'd see you here lol
22 minutes :(
4:04 there is no way people hate Crookedstar >:(
Bro I love crookedstar
My reaction actually:
I mean he did a lot of unnecessary battles that end up killing his own brother just for a dumb pride quest
hes my fav
@@Amanecer458Except his brother was actually murdered. He would've survived the battle if it weren't for Tigerclaw doing that.
Me: I wish Akira could post the most hated cats soon
Akira: *Everyone’s most hated cats video*
Me: HELL YEAH!
Edit: this is the most likes I’ve gotten :) THANK YOU.
Edit: Not to be that person, but thank you for likes. This is the most I’ve ever gotten rlly.
Edit: OMG I’M GETTING MORE LIKES
I was just thinking, “hmmm when will Akira post it I’m so bored…”
Me: *opens youtube*
Akira: Everyone’s most hated warrior Cat character
@@WaterDragon2725 lol
Yoo same bro, I was like "it's Saturday, that means that people will be posting more," then I see this an I literally screamed
I really want to like Ivypool but the fandom has just ruined her for me with all the needless Dovewing hate. I think the sisters have a lot of the same flaws that haters of either sister like to point out. But I feel like I’ve seen so many more people put Ivy on a pedestal and hate on Dove and that’s honestly made me resent Ivypool more. I’m trying to get over this bias and understand why other people love her so much (and then maybe I can appreciate her character) but the fandom has made that so difficult.
I like Ivypool and Dovewing a lot but sometimes I have to avoid the fandom content of them because all it is is just wars over which sister is better
@@Sourpeaches123 Exactly, people feel the need to compare them way too much.
Dovewing drove me crazy when I first read the series because I was so used to reading Hollyleaf's POV, and I thought that Dovewing was a bit of a Mary-Sue in contrast. But now that I'm older and Dovewing has developed, I really like her- especially because of her role in Tigerheartstar's novel and the later books. However Ivypool still brings me a lot of joy and I love them both.
I have to agree about the unnecessary Dovewing/Ivypool arguments but I once had eight different people breathing down my neck simply for saying I like Ivypool. I guess weird hate is on both sides.
@@CreatureCreations- Yeah, I tried to highlight that in my comment, I’ve just seen it manifest more with people hating on Dovewing in my experience.
And I will say, I’ve only read Ivy as an apprentice. So a lot of my dislike for her comes from how cruel she is to Dovepaw who only ever tries to give to their relationship. I know she supposedly gets better and from what I’ve heard, so goes through a lot of growth. But the unnecessary hate of dove while putting Ivy on a pedestal for many of the same issues Ivy has has likely forever soured my feelings on Ivy.
brackenfur with 6 is still outrages to me. Like he gets no notice and yet people still hate him
you hate brackenfur I hate you
@ fr
Brackenfur you will forever remain my favorite background cat
@ frrrr
WHO IS THAT ONE MOUSEBRAIN THAT VOTED MY PRECIOUS FOXLEAP
My guess is either Stoneteller or Swoop of Chestnut Hawk.
I love Foxleap!!!
NO.. FOXLEAP IS SO GREAT
OMG HI FOXLEAP LOVER, HERE IS ICECLOUD NR 1 FAN!!! THEIR SIBLING RELATIONSHIP IS SO CUTE!!!
Intense sweating that I haven't seen leafpool yet
she has negative haters
you will never see her
Omg a bfdi fan!
10:00
BFDI FAN SPOTTED !!!!
BFDI PFP SPOTTED
Was not ready for a major spoiler in the first three minutes 😖
Right?! I live in a country (Australia) where Star doesn't come out until January, I haven't been able to get a copy wtf. I was really upset
This is why you don't watch warriors content expecting to not get some spoilers 🤷♀️
@@BlueCanaryNightLight ig but it’s a spoiler for the most recent book. I feel like there should’ve at least been a warning or smthng
@@BlueCanaryNightLight I assumed it was safe since the poll came out before Star did, and since the video title was nothing to do with the new book.
@@ladykatie8204 You're totally right. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a video not about the new book wouldn't have spoilers about the new book. Even if it is from the same franchise.
I would like Grey Wing...if the narrative actaully treated him as though he were morally grey. Conceptually, I want to like Grey Wing (and Clear Sky), but the author's seemed afriad to actaully write him as though he was ever anything other than wise and in the right. Its not that i dont like morally grey characters, i just wish the Erins would write morally grey characters that are actaully treated as morally grey.
It's definitely a weird dissonance between fandom, the writing, and the intentions of the writers. I definitely don't think Brambleclaw is deserving of #1 though, especially above characters like Thistleclaw, Rainflower, Tom, etc. Clear Sky and Sandgorse actually embody more of the character that people hate when they think of Brambleclaw imo, both are a lot worse than him without it ever being addressed / resolved fully (a little arguable with Clear Sky, but since it fell flat for many readers I think it's a fair point). I don't know if people remember Sandgorse all that well, but the way he treated Tallstar and the effect his verbal and emotional abuse had (especially after his death) literally made me sob my eyes out as a child when I read Tallstar's revenge.
There's for sure quite a few issues with how Brambleclaw is written and I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of the points people bring up, but also a lot of it is blown a little out of proportion. I really don't think the writers ever intended for him to be that way and it's moreso the result of poor writing. But mainly I really love Bramblekit/Bramblepaw and he adds unique value to those early books. Kinda makes me wish they had written a different story for him or Brackenfur'ed him, but oh well
I can’t believe the ACTUAL P3D0 is only number 5. Dude should have been #1
Well, the guy who attempted an actual genocide is only at number 9.
See, villains are characters you're meant to dislike. They're doing their job if you hate them.... But a poorly written character the writers kiss the ass of while the character is just a god-awful person is.... infuriating.
im sorry but i enjoy morally wrong characters, they keep things interesting
nah thistleclaw defenders are valid. he used to be surprisingly well-liked cause bluestar's prophecy didn't actually give us proper reasons for why he was so "evil" so the erins got mad at his fans and retconned him into the worst kind of person they could think of to go "SEE?? he WAS super duper evil all along" 10 years later
Honestly I liked Thisleclaw in Blustars prophecy, I honestly like the sort of bluestar and Thisleclaw rivalry
this is just proving my point that the Dovewing hate, though much much better than it used to be, is NOT at all gone, even in the slightest. like Akira said, a lot of fans here watch Moonkitti and I know Akira likes Dove too. yet she STILL managed to get in the top 20. a few years ago, she would have gotten 1st without question. it's really sad, she's a good and relatable character that did nothing wrong. JUSTICE FOR DOVEWING.
As A Dovewing disliker who tries their hardest to like her all I can say this (sigh) JUSTICE FOR DOVEWING !! (Because as much as I don’t like her that much she Fr isn’t that bad 😭)
My issue with Mapleshade is the same one I have with some of her fans: thinking that Mapleshade did nothing wrong!
Fr they literally missed the point of the book
Yes! Imo, everyone was horrible but she also gave in to the evil
Mapleshade and Tigerstar are perhaps one of my top two favorite villains. Of course, put them in front of me and I will happily beat them up for doing awful things. Tigerstar is written amazingly!
As for Mapleshade, her book isn't great (I'll need to reread it maybe too just to know how bad), but her motivations make a lot of sense. Her whole Clan turned on her, kicked her out. Instead of helping, both her supposed friend and scummy mate (and his Clanmates) watched on as she struggled to get her kits across (imo, Apple and those Clanmates should have been punished for breaking a code regarding those poor kits). Then they dragged her out, and ridiculed her then chased her back out.
Is murder the answer to any of that? Absolutely not. But she's already a villain, and is meant to be a villain. She just got hit with like, a million horrible events with no time to process it and no one to confide in that she can trust. (Some may say the random barn cat--but she JUST lost everything in one day, and she was taught not to trust or confide in non-Clan cats. Also he felt so random, useless, and out of place if irc. Book would be better without him to solidify that aloneness some more.)
I shall scuttle away from my podium now, that was not meant to be super long but, never got to properly tangent about Mapleshade till now. *wheeze*
People have to understand that just because a character has a sad story doesn't mean their actions, like murder, are justifiable
@@Blaaaaazeeeeeeeeeee YES THANK YOU, MAPLESHADE WAS NOT INNOCENT AT ALL, I’m glad us as a community are finally starting to see this
I would’ve voted thistleclaw if I could but I didn’t get to vote
All the 122 people that voted Tigerheart, and 128 people that voted Dovewing are my sworn enemies, may we never meet.
Probably huge overlap there.
My poor Dovewing lol!
I don't hate Dove but I think she's kind of annoying because I'm an ivypool and well it doesn't matter but like I I mainly like ivypool better
A G R E E D. Dovewing and Tigerheart are my favorites in the whole seriess I love them both sm
@@MatthewChase-nh9lrAgreed. Interesting as an actual character (ish) but that’s really all she has going for her imo. And Tigerheart just sucks. Hope he’s gone by the next series
Yellowfang haters are probably mad about her StarClan appearances rather than how she was when she was alive. Or haters of her super edition. Arc 1 Yellowfang is a pretty unanimously loved character. Unlike arc 1 Bluestar, whose mental breakdown really divides the fandom on whether she's a good character or not. I'm on the side of thinking she's one of the most *interesting*.
Brambleclaw's worst crime to me is being disappointing. He has this whole arc about not becoming like his father, then he... trains with Tigerstar and Hawkfrost in the dark forest? He's scared of being too ambitious, but then he gets to be leader and everyone loves him. A huge emotional drive of the Broken Code arc is trying to get him back to the living, but it's kind of unbelievable that Squirrelflight still loves him that much after how he's treated her. Saying he's better than Ashfur is damning by faint praise.
As for Yellowfang, I didn't take part in the vote but I really don't like her. It's not that deep for me honestly, she's just old and grumpy which just isn't my cup of tea. I also feel like the books really tried to make her look gross with the knotted fur and yellow teeth and stuff. It kinda icks me out. Her in StarClan was pretty much just worse. But I wouldn't really call myself a Yellowfang hater, I do get why people like her. She's just really not for me.
She's just kinda overrated imo.
14:04 i've heard the issue isn't her being overrated, it's cuz she's overUSED. she's relevant to just about every little thing. kinda makes you wonder why she needed 9 lives after al the crap she went through with just 1
As someone who voted for her: it’s actually because of the overrated too, and I personally find her very annoying.
Well, I think Mothwing is overrated, but you won't be seeing me putting her in my list of most hated cats. It shouldn't be a factor at all ngl
@@yay29823the difference between Mothwing and Squirrelflight is that Mothwing doesn't get pushed to the center of attention. Sure, she had relevance a lot, but she's not usually in the middle of drama like Squirrelflight is.
@@moonliteevee It's so weird to me the concept of not liking a character because their relevancy remains consistent, but sure, it's way better than what the reply above mine says
I love cars
ah yes, cars
Fr
Ikr
Oh I love cars totally not cats
Warrior cars my favorite xenofiction soap opera ❤️❤️❤️
Right as you brought up Moonkitti I got a notification that she posted a video, it was a funny coincidence
1:23 I LOOKED AT THIS LIST AND SAW FOXY AND FRISK. WHY IS A FNAF AND UNDERTALE CHARACTER IN THIS LIST 😭😭😭
Was surprised to see Needletail so low on the list. She was responsible for me no longer reading the latest books (though, what they've put out about Moonpaw is tempting me). Seeing her be treated as a valiant but mislead cat rather the irresponsible jerk she came across as infuriated me.
I was kinda hoping Bramble wouldn't rank #1 (hopelessly attached to this guy since childhood because my first set of books was TNP) but it wasn't unexpected. The number of villains high on the list did surprise me, though. Unless a villain does something particularly infuriating or I find them very poorly written, I usually don't care too much. They're villains. They're gonna be bad people and do bad things. Duh.
Wait you haven't read the broken code??
I read a portion of TBC, but I never finished the arc. I stopped after The Silent Thaw. Up until AvoS, I had read every single arc from start to finish at least once. Since I haven't completed an arc since AvoS (and actually haven't touched ASC at all), I consider AvoS to be the arc I "stopped reading" Warriors at.
I think she's both mislead and an irresponsible jerk, but she's a very messy character in a good way that makes her more compelling, like with Hollyleaf. Also most people either haven't read or forgot AVOS so that explains her being lower than more popular first arc cats.
Same my first books were the new prophecy and I grew really attached to bramble! I like the Brambleclaw that is from the new prophecy not the new one that is abusive to squirrel
@@Mrnnkiah alright. Avos was my least favorite series, probably, but The Broken code emotionally destroyed me so it made me get over the series before it. Honestly, I don't remember most of what happened in AVOS
Me, nodding: Uh huh. I get it, well loved characters in the fandom are bound to also have some haters. Nothing to do about it. *notices someone voted Badgerfang* WHO VOTES FOR BADGERFANG????
1:54 she's chonky, she's beloved by fans, AND she's leader of riverclan? good for her
“11th most hated cat bad? I don’t think so.”
He asked Dovewing about having kits at Purdy’s FUNERAL. That by itself probably gets him a lot of hate because of how tone-deaf and disrespectful that is.
I'm always happy to vote for these videos! Also Akira your usually really good for warning about spoilers from new books but you said who was the new RiverClan leader and i was kinda dissapointed since i hadn't had the chance to pick up star and i was excited to see who the new leader would be by reading the book
Okay, whoever hates Tawnypelt... **puts on boxing gloves** I just want to talk
9:37 scourge is just tempest shadow if she never got reformed
Lionblaze defender to I dieeeee. I understand he’s boring sometimes and has a bit of a temper and is really underused properly but HOP OFF MY BOY 😭
PREACH!!! I WILL DEFEND LIONBLAZE UNTIL I DIE!
Me: as long as Crowfeather doesn't get 20 votes I'm happy.
Me: Alright as long as he does get 30 votes I'm happy.
Me: as long as he isn't in the top 20 I'm happy.
Me : as long as he isn't in the top 10 I'm happy.
HE'S ONLY 19TH PLACE :D
Omg another Crowfeather lover??
I genuinely don’t like tigerstar because of how he died, I don’t hate him, I just think it’s anticlimactic to have him killed by another villain without putting up a fight, also it’s kind off annoying that the 1st arc had 3 main villains, not counting dark stripe though cause he’s just a villain to sorrelkit 😢
Longtail deserved better, yes at the first few books he was a brat, but he litterally found out that one of his best friends was veil and he was getting better, then they decided to say Let’s blind him and not even add it to a the main part of the series, and he was litterally blind and traveled over the mountains, and in the wiki, said he was one of the most eager to keep going and never got tired.
13:43 Firestar, to those 90 people: I would like to have a word with you
I expected the more popular characters to have more hate
Probably cause he's overrated-..
Plus opinion
15:38 DOVEWING…WHAT DID U DO?? WHAT DID YOU DO DOVEWING IM GENUINELY CONFUSED-
Hell yeah!! Lets see if my voted cats are here!! (I probably dont remember who I voted for)
WHO HATED BRIDTELFROST???
what rank did she get? I didn't see her
No one hates the daughter of ivy pool add the best broken code POV how dare u hater
@@ILoveGodForEver. She ended up ranking up to Deputy, but that was under the impostor's rule
maybe people who were half way through the broken code and learned bristlefrost was helping the imposer
Poor Bramblestar/claw. He’s so hated on.
I dislike squrrielstar for what she did to nightheart. Like how she treated him on his tests to be a warrior. But also thistle claw deserved 1st place how’d brambleclaw beat him vro.
One word: Moonkitti
bramblestar is in nearly every single main series book while thistleclaw only appears explicitly in novellas and super editions. brambleclaw is more hated because he is more well known.
We shouldn't just blame the Mapleshade fans for Ravenwing being here, I don't particularly like her but he's garbage.
Yes, he's a medicine cat but he was well aware of the fact that young kittens would be exiled and did nothing to stop Oakstar even though as his medicine cat he had all power to.
Appledusk and Frecklewish were innocent but Ravenwing was not.
Yeah Ravenwing sucks
I probably haven't read Maple shade's vengeance that good but that's a pretty valid point frecklewish is not Innocent in my opinion. There is a rule in the warrior code that states that no cat must neglect a kit in need even if that kit is from another clan. I honestly think she deserves it but it's my opinion.
i forgot to vote and am so mad about that 💀💀 but if i could’ve i would’ve definitely voted for dovetail and squirrelstar , im worried now that one of their die hard fans will show up at my door 🙏
AND TIGERHEARTSTAR ..
Bramble star. He abuses his mate, he neglects his clan and adopted kits, and just boring.
@ i dislike both of them
Let’s hate Squirrelstar together
@@sawtist I respect that you dislike both of them. Personally I love Squirrelstar and DESPISE Bramblestar. It’s fine that you don’t like both, just my personal preference for voting on who you dislike would be Bramblestar if I were in your shoes.
12:35 it feels like the version of her from the manga and the one from the books are 2 completely different cats
The fact that People hate Spottedleaf just bc Firestar Loved Her-
What did Juniperclaw, Stonefur, or Whitestorm ever do to y'all?? 😭😭
(Where is my boy Reedwhisker at btw)
Brambleclaw being first surprised me a bit. I get it, he’s definitely a dislikable character as of Squirrelflight’s Hope, which is the only warriors book I’ve ever stopped reading out of frustration (towards his horrid behaviour), but I don’t think he’s nearly as hate-able as some characters. I was surprised he ranked higher than Thistleclaw and Rainflower. He was interesting in TNP. He’s been emotionally abusive and Squirrelstar should break up with him, but as I mentioned I think he at least had some interesting arcs earlier on, which spares him from being a character I unequivocally dislike. It’s more mixed feelings for me personally.
I am very glad Clear Sky/Skystar was second place. I am a proud Clear Sky hater. LOL
(Side Note: My favourite highly-hated characters are Tigerstar 2.0 and Dovewing. I’m 19 and a lot of my opinions formed when I read the books at 7-14 though since I haven’t reread the older ones since then so this could have changed lol.)
Wasn't surprised at all. The poll is usually Akira's main audience which is also cross over of Bliximi and Moonkitti, all those creators are very big Squirrel, and Leaf lovers which into turn their main audience tends to be. I was 100% expecting Bramble to be #1. That being said I do think it's only because if the limited audience polled. I do not think if the larger fanbase was polled he'd be #1, top 10 for sure and probably top 5 but 1? I dont see how you argue Ashfur is better than Bramble in any realm. People just like Squirrel so their hate for Bramble is amplified. I'm not a Bramble lover, to me he is pretty boring and both cats in SquirrelXBramble are problematic, obviously Brmable is worse but neither are good for each other. People get mad that Bramble was mad at Squirrel for lying about Holly, Jay, and Lion. That is a reasonable thing to be mad about. And honestly I think it would have been a great place to end their relationship. I'm not someone who likes Squirrel, I think fandom Squirrel is infinitely more likeable than canon Squirrel so maybe that just makes my hate in Bramble a bit less idk. Obviously everyone is bias but I think there's so many worse cats worthy of that #1 and truly think it's mainly just bias of the polled group. Most of these comments are just about Squirrel, which just goes to show how many of the viewers love her.
I dont understand how Squirrel lovers dont vote Ash more, my main guess is that he is dead now while we still have to tolerate Bramble.
For me it's just so hard to hate purely for the relationship thing because I truly believe most of it is just really really bad writing execution. The side characters always act like the relationship is just one of those 'push each other buttons but love each other' type of trope, which I do truly think is the intent. But in true Warriors Cats writing fashion they forget to actually show the 'love' part and only show the 'push each others buttons' so it comes out as this truly toxic horrible to read relationship. I think the writers are stating to see their fail and pushing Bramble to the side, I just wish they broke them up earlier (I do love Alderheart so maybe after he was born). If I'm honest I'm so tired of the cats from the second series I'm not inclined to read until they are all dead. Aside from Crow I dont think they were that intresting espically Squirrel and Bramble. They have had enough spotlight
From what I've seen, it's way more likely for a Squilf lover to like Ashfur as well, but hate Bramble. It's a weird phenomenon, but I've seen it a lot. Over the top of my head I can remember two content creators who are like this: Moonkitti is the most obvious one. She Loves squirreflight, and she has said many times she really likes Ashfur. Akira loves Squilf as well, and I'm pretty sure has put Ashfur on the top of the list of best villains @@finnsnow2495
YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEOOO!!!
Can’t wait for the next warriors poll!
Brambleclaw deserves it though, bro is trash
Agreed fr, he's so abusive
He didn't deserve to be leader at all let alone being Squilf's mate. She deserves so much better
fr
bramblepaw and the new prophecy was the best. but after he really just fell off
Literally.
Bramblepaw: cool
Brambleclaw: alright I guess
Bramblestar: fudge him
Me: goes to Akira’s channel for this video.
Finds it.
**Happydance**
Ima watch this soon, but I am so excited to watch it!
11:29 WTFFFF MAYBE Y'ALL FORGET SHE LOST HER MIND FROM TIGERSTAR THE FIRST AND SAVED FIRESTAR💀
Me looking at the poll remembering I can't use my rewrite and how strange it would look to say I ship Stormfur with Cherrytail (Midnight tells them to save SkyClan and then move the clans)
I am SHOCKED Brambleclaw was more hated than Tom or Clear Sky! Like I definitely expected him to be well hated but to be the number 1 hated? Dang I didn’t realize how many people hated him.
21:59 he absolutely deserved 2nd place, he literally did so much wrong. I bet the only reason he got into starclan was because they couldn’t put a founding leader into the dark forest
3:20 pffffttt
4:07 also pfffft Pack Leader
19:20 Yesss thank goodness he wasn't forgotten! I voted him :D
WHO BOTED SHATTERED ICE?!?! HE IS MY FAVE I LOVE HIM
Okay, so, Daisy. I LOVE her, so I'm sad she got voted. And I gotta disagree with ya, Akira, Bluestar was SO interesting throughout the books, be it "Bluestar's Prophecy" or, my personal favourite, "A Dangerous Path". And lastly, I voted Tigerstar (Tigerclaw), not because he's a bad villain, but because he's evil and he totally destroyed Bluestar. She got a sort of dementia BECAUSE of him. And Tigerstar just cause so much destruction, and he killed Brindleface. He really made me sad throughout the books, even though his death was really scary and sad. But overall, thank you Akira!
As a certified Squirrelflight Hater ™, a lot of it is because the fandom hardly ever acknowledges how she's written in the actual text. They will go out of their way to say x or y isn't canon ("no, she took the three out of the goodness of her own heart, canon doesn't exist!" "i'm going to ignore her telling Jayfeather he can't blame her and to blame Leafpool," etc) but don't want to like her for her entire personality. Ironically, I LIKE actual canon Squirrelflight. Headstrong, bold, but above all... self-serving. Her taking the three for her own wants? Canon. Her yelling at old man, sickly Blackstar in his own camp while Bramblestar tells her to stop? Canon. Her telling Jayfeather not to blame her because it was Leafpool? Canon. Her refusing to support Sunbeam outright in wanting to help her family, to potentially save face politically? Canon. And none of that makes her a bad character. In fact, "above all, I and mine need to survive," is one of my favorite traits in a character. And Squirrel has it in bucket loads - that's why she was willing to go completely nuclear during the fire scene and jumped there so fast. Sure, there could have been other ways out of the situation, but getting out quickly and all four of them surviving was the important part. But the fandom just holding up this version of Squirrelflight that doesn't exist and worshiping it as the best is soooo irritating. And this isn't from a place of Brambleclaw or Ashfur love - in fact, I dislike both of them, and their existence means very little for how I feel about Squirrelflight, as the reasons I dislike her are almost completely fandom-based. If the fandom didn't exist she'd probably rank higher for me, though TNP Squirrel would still be one of my least favorite characters of all time.
THIS, I completely agree with this.
Squirrelflight is extremely morally gray, and the fact that the fandom tries to portray her as this “Badass Queen who can do no wrong” is mildly infuriating,.
I also voted for her for this reason.
Also because I personally find her as a character pretty annoying (that’s me though)
☹️
I used to hate her as squirrelpaw but now she’s a pretty decent character
Reading this comment… Squirrelf almost sounds like Princess Caroline
Act three arcane is wild!!! Also we all know the animators had fun making the scene.
What does arcane have to to do with this video and Warrior Cats?
2:00 NOOOOO I HAVENT READ THE BOOK YETTTTTTT 😭
I'm in the same boat as you 😔I gasped when Akira spoiled the ending and immediately paused the video. But it was too late. I'm devastated that I won't be able to learn this major plot point in "Star" for myself.
@@noahharper4167 yeah agreed
19:14 between the misoginy, abusing his mate, having a loathsome personality, and being both the ugliest and fattest antagonist, he was a trump allegory before trump's first presdental campaign (since dawn of the clans takes place in the 1980s)
I think some people voted Frecklewish due to how toxic her superfans can be.
Also all of you that voted Appledusk ILY /p
Also, before y'all scream at me, I also think Mapleshade superfans can be very toxic, too.
9:19 Y'ALL FORGET SHE SAVED GREYSTRIPE OR SOMETHING!? MOTHERF-
Who voted for whitestorm- also who votes princess lol
Personally I actually always liked Darkstripe specifically because he is an uncool villain. The way the narrative just kept walking all over him, especially in later books, made him more entertaining to me. It's kind of a "you love to hate him" relationship lol
WOAH I GOT RECOMMENDED THIS FIVE MINUTES LATER!!!!
Bramble is an amazing character, he is not abusive and was a great leader until he suffered PTSD. The fact that those are opinions of Squirrelstar, their Clanmates, Squirrel's parents, rest of StarClan, and the authors themselves should have made this clear. He and Squirrel aren't perfect, neither as couple nor as themselves, they have flows (I would argue that Squirrelstar had more of those) but that's what makes them so great and interesting compared to all the other relationships^^
agreed, theyre like the married couple who argue nonstop but refuse to get a divorce
He was soooo boring and mean compared to Bramblepaw, sorry not sorry.
And couples that always fight like Squirrel and Bramble aren't cute, they're toxic af.
14:51 eh Crow can be attributed to the fact that originally he was negligent and abusive from what Jayfeather saw in Breezepelts emotions. He did get retconed to not be that though... which well You can say he isn't and never was now... but you still originally wrote him like that and that bitter taste lingers.
12:05
This is super late but I actually think Gray Wing deserves the hate he got.
he’s constantly body shaming the kitty pets, and dislikes Bumble right away for her being plump. (He also does the same for Tom but that guy is a jerk so- (still wrong though))
he’s a bit possessive of Turtle Tail to me, mad whenever she’s hanging out with Bumble but never giving a reason why he thinks that way and doesn’t value her opinions, and when she’s showing interest into Bumble’s den, he doesn’t try to care. BUT gets upset when she isn’t very interested into him talking about Storm.
He’s oblivious to Turtle Tail’s feelings or just doesn’t care, and also Storm’s, not caring when she’s uncomfortable to him pushing his religion on her and constantly inviting her to his kitty cult.
Then how he treats Bumble when she’s trying to get a hide out after Tom beats her randomly. He’s mad at her when she just appears thinking only how she interrupted his time with the kits and Turtle Tail (which he only starts to care for after his second love interest dies and Gray Wing can’t go on for two minutes without a woman) when Bumble is covered in scratches. He doesn’t try to help her at all despite clearly being abused and thinks how she should be fine with Tom’s treatment just because he doesn’t want to deal with her and she’s “lazy” and “plump” and sends her back to her abuser, which indirectly leads to her death.
(Other cats in this scene do also act pretty bad but they keep putting Gray Wing in the light where he’s this compassionate and kinda person, which he really isn’t most of the time)
Gray Wing is bad because he’s possessive and oblivious, and pretty self centered most of the time, only thinking about his wants. what makes him a hatable character like Bramblestar is because he’s shown to be this white and pure character who only ever done good, which leaves a very sour taste in my mouth after reading him deny a abuse victim for just being fat and sends them back because he thinks it’s not that big of a deal??
Hollyleaf isn’t my top favorites, but I know why people like her; I’m clueless how people like Gray Wing if it isn’t just him being a total Reddit guy
LETS GO MY BABIES RUNNINGWIND AND SHREWTOOTH ARE LOVED 💗💗💗💗
I luv runningwind
SHREWTOOTH MY BELOVED 💕💕💕
@@BR3AK.66 Shrewtooth was like, one of the only bright spots in Skyclan's Destiny for me and I'm so sad it seems the writing team just forgot he existed
(1st place being Brambleclaw)
(The Ashfur Fans laughing their asses off)
I'm throwing hands with the one Ferncloud hater. How dare you insult my queen
Me hearing the sentence "do not be upset if ur fav character is the most hated or something I can't remember the sentence"
Me: knowing that my fav character is brokenstar
The one person that voted Whitethroat, I WILL FIDE YUO.
3:53 I Nearly cried when I saw Bristlefrost SHE LITERALLY DROWNED HERSELF FOR SHADOWSIGHT! I don’t blame roots print to have been so devasted 😭 😭 😭
4:51 poor smudge why do 9 peeps hate him 😢
For The 144 people who voted Breezepelt
*KEEP ONE EYE OPEN AT ALL TIMES*
Who ever voted yellowfang up there i will come for them. Just because she is ded dosent mean to bash her!😭
Don't blame them, they only loved too much.
I think people hated the Starclan Yellowfang because when she was alive, she was basically this tough,sassy and wise grandma you can look up to and always talk to but when she died and became a Starclan half of her character and personality either changed or disappeared
No because she lied to Squirrelflight and then had the nerve to be apart of their StarClan trial like she didn't directly influence what happened ON TOP of more or less doing the same thing. Living sassy Yellowfang was amazing, her in StarClan is horrible.
12:32 nah keep Pinestar away from kids, the further away from apprentices the better. Weirdo feel in a love with a kid then cat married her as soon as she became a warrior.
As a Mapleshade fan, I am not surprised at all XD, but I don't excuse her actions.
Though she is a villain so
A Mapleshade and Kanade fan 🤩
@@Toolazyforname104 Hello!
I LOVE FIRESTAR BRO WHAT
my favorite character is Breezepelt and I’m scared to watch this lol-
I can't believe there's any Cinderpelt haters!
SAME
I don't think Brambleclaw deserve all the hate. Almost all the people who hate them are always behind fandom opinion. I used to hate him too but then I read the books and he wasn't bad tbh.
My boy deserves compression
I kinda agree. I have issues with how he's written and I understand the sentiment but... #1 is insane, the hate is blown way out of proportion for what's actually written in the books themselves (at least in comparsion to other characters).
Ugh same. I’m so thoroughly sick of watching people assume malicious intentions from him in literally every situation. Some people seem to think that the only possible motivation he could ever have is to hurt Squirrelflight.
He got pretty boring after he became leader, I liked him in arcs 1 and 3 much better
Also he had this whole thing in tnp about being afraid of becoming like his dad (and being afraid of being ambitious) and then he throws it all away to go train with tigerstar and hawkfrost in the dark forest pretty much instantly
ranking brambleclaw as worse than a literal child groomer (thistleclaw) or an attempted kit murderer (darkstripe) is absolutely insane like you can tell brambleclaw was only rated the worst because of braindead moonkitti fans
Yellowfang haters must fight me in hand to hand combat
YELLOWFANG MY POOKIEE
My favorite number was so close to the amount of votes, the votes were 1598- my favorite number is 1589
Also, NO NOT MOTH FLIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is best character, not enough love is given to her!!! Same with Gray Wing, Everyone is so mean to the good characterssss..... Same with Star Flower and Skystar........ they are such well written characters......................
Im surprised jayfeather was so high, saying that he usually wins on the most loved cat
Akira I adore you but why must you include spoilers! Star isnt out in my country yet, and America won't ship the book to me :(
I don’t know why, but seeing Beetlewhisker in the 0 votes list makes me happy.
My man Rainwhisker made it, too!
(Probably because most of the fandom forgot about him after The Sight, though.)