Lexus Goes All-In On Turbos and Hybrids | 2023 Lexus RX 350 First Drive
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- The RX is easily Lexus' most important vehicle. Not only is it their best seller, nearly 1/3 of Lexus vehicles sold in America are RX crossovers. That may make the mission sound easy, but reality is far from it. Lexus needed to not alienate existing RX buyers, while attempting to lure younger shoppers that are new to Lexus' cushy crossover. To do this there will be four RX models on sale in America: one turbo, three hybrids, and all of them will have only two rows. Want a 3-row Lexus? Stay tuned. there should be something coming soon for you...
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“Panoramic rune roof”. Funny Alex. First blooper I ever caught from your channel. I love your videos a lot man. I respect and highly value the things you say in your videos. Thanks for the nicely detailed videos.
Great review!
I love Alex & Brian!
Alex and Brian, I wager more Lexus buyers want a traditional Hybrid powertrain than a turbocharger.
Yes... i want a high quality, fuel efficient, LEXUS.
Ill get another sports car to fulfill my Need For Speed.
@@k2229 just get an xc90 that’s higher quality than less but also practical and much faster and more dynamic to drive
@@naveenthemachine The XC 90 has well-known reliability issues.
@@notsodelusional all of them? The PHEV maybe but the base engine should be solid. Plus the xc90 uses the same Aisin 8 speed as the RX
Perhaps this is why Lexus offers THREE hybrid powertrains.
I am going to keep my V-6 RX 350. I only have 8000 miles on it.
Will miss the V6 thanks Alex and Brian
Glade we purchased the 2022 RX the last year of the great V6-4 cylinder turbo with 275 HP and premium fuel
no thanks
Like the new guy. Smoothness could improve for sure but this was 8 mo again so I’m sure he’s fits in perfectly!
No V6, No Sale! I will keep my fingers crossed for an RDX S Type with V6. If not, Honda Pilot V6 will be my go-to.
How come no auto reviewers mention if the 4 turbo in the RX requires premium fuel like the NX. That is also a big difference with the old V6 if it does.
Another reviewer said premium fuel was recommended.
@@michaels3003 I bet you this would run fine on regular if the Highlander 2.4T runs on regular. Maybe reduced power
Unfortunately the V6 was omitted only because of emissions regulations. I'm afraid that beautiful 2GR engine will be retired along most of the Toyota/Lexus line except for those vehicles which use the twin turbo V6 as the only option.
Most modern turbos can run on regular. This is no exception. Only thing is that you may get less power and slightly less mpg
@@naveenthemachine You might get light spark knock under load too. Like going up a steep hill at lower speeds.
Too bad about the v6. I think the Acura MDX may be one of the few remaining with a v6.
The styling seems to be improved in my opinion.
I would not be surprised if Honda/Acura retired their J-Series V6 in the near future. I mean, to be honest? I love the J-Series 6 cylinder but their 2.0T engine in the Civic Type-R and RDX is an absolute beast. I'm sure Honda will eventually make a 2.4 or 2.5L version of that engine making much more power.
@@payrocoin they could also potentially hybridize it
@@naveenthemachine I would absolutely LOVE that! A PHEV Acura MDX or RDX?! Yes, please!
@@payrocoin acura is jumping straight to Ev's and skipping hybrids and phev's
@@Reu_ag I kinda hope not. Some people have real range anxiety with EVs. If Honda can come out with an EV that does at least 500 miles to a charge then yeah, no more range anxiety for most people.
put the turbo 4 in the trd camry with a little boost to horsepower would be sweet
I am an RX owner and would like a new one but the 2023 redesign is UGLY!
Great that Lexus has so many choices for powertrains, but for us the Plug-in is the one!
@TheMrDudiness We agree with the comment. So Plug-in Hybrids are a jack of all trades, but master of none.
But having said that, plug in, and hybrids have more range per gallon than regular ICE cars. We recently took our Honda Clarity Plug-In on a 455 mile trip and we used 9.7 gallons for the whole trip. So that comes about to about 46.90 MPG!
Yes plug in hybrids get less mileage at highway speeds, but that's because plug-in hybrids are able to go from 13 to 50 miles (depending on model and battery size) on electric only. Where a hybrid might get 1 or a few miles on EV mode only.
Plug in cars have battery packs that on average are 4 to 5 times bigger than hybrid only battery packs. We have needed 0 maintenance on out plug-in EV drive. Only the gas engine has needed the seldom oil change.
So in other words if you want the best mileage period, hybrid is the way to go. But if you want to be able to drive for extended distances in ev only plug in is the way to go. But both will get better mileage per gallon than a comparable ICE vehicle.
Also, when you've depleted the range of a plug in, it does not mean the whole battery pack is at 0% it always leaves around 10% in the pack so the car can behave like a regular hybrid.
My MPG on the Clarity estimate says 199 Mpg. But that's because I rarely turn on the gas engine and I charge every time. So the car counts the EV mileage with the gas that hasn't be used and makes a mpg prediction. Not a good way to predict mpg in our opinion.
But as always your mileage may vary according to your specific scenario.
This all makes the 2022 Acura MDX with its V6, 10 speed auto the car to buy. What a mess Lexus has made of things.
I’m happy you agree that the RX is DOA
You guys should cover weight distribution and torque distribution next time; important performance metrics!
Not sure why they’d build anything but hybrids at this point. Seems like they don’t have enough assets to maintain a competitive hybrid inventory.
I’m sorry, when did Brian become huge and ripped?
Recorded horizontally:)
would love to see this engine in the RC
Dude! 18:48 no way ya'll made that Stop sign. Notice Alex did a neck breaker then Brian was driving?
All those various drivetrains are impressive, but without a v6 option for those of us that enjoy a buttery smooth drivetrain compared to the roar of a coarse 4 cylinder, I'm far from interested. The ES350 is my next daily.
Long live the V6!!!
You should hurry, the ES will likely not keep the V6 for long…
So far the ES and Camry are the only ones left with the v6
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I'm very aware of that. 2023 is the year I pull the trigger and head over to entry level, yet fully loaded, Lexus luxury vs 3 fully loaded Accord V6's over the last 17 years.
Great video you guys! I can't believe that a Lexus doesn't have 4-way lumbar! What the heck? What Lexus must I buy to get 4-way lumbar?
You have to get the luxury package
But it’s also worth pointing out that a venza and sienna offer that
All nice but sad about not having a v6 engine…four sounds not so nice….😥
Just call the top spec model the Rx 500H. That all
After listening to the sweet sound of the GR Corolla’s 3 cylinder engine, I think a 3 cylinder would have a better and more refined sound than this 2.4T. This sounds like a 4 banger from a 1999 Camry.
Comparing a silly little 3-cylinder mini car to an over 4 thousand pound SUV, yeh you seem smart!
@@Mark-de4hj yeah you seem smart, too. I’m not comparing the cars. I’m comparing the engines. The GR Corolla has 300 hp and 273 lb-ft torque, so that 3 cylinder engine would be powerful enough for the RX.
@@garrettw99 Again, the RX is over 4 thousand pounds so just by putting that exact engine in it would lower the engine's capability. Plus, you are making statements with no real world experience. One wouldn't put a motorcycle engine in a car and say it's loud and torquey so therefore its better.
I wonder if putting two gr corolla engines would fit.
Because for example the Ford Fusion used to offer a turbo v6 and AWD. Even the Buick Lucerne and some Volvos offered a v8 in a transverse configuration.
@@naveenthemachine yeah, that makes an inline 6 non-BMW Supra. I’m just intrigued with what cars Toyota could put that 3 cylinder into. It sounds almost as good as an inline 6 imo
Does this have the same torque vectoring AWD system with terrain selection, as the 2023 Highlander AWD ?
Also is the 350 turbo AWD system more capable on snow than the 350h AWD system?
Lexus & Genesis...killing it in the styling department.
Nah. Genesis yea Lexus hell no
Your jaw hits the floor everytime a new iPhone is released
@@naveenthemachine I know right? Genesis and Lexus: Yes. BMW: Absolutely NOT!
@@brianlee9233 Lexus no they aren’t killing it in styling
I would agree, I’ve really been liking the newest Lexus and Genesis design apart from the GV60, I still think that thing is awfully ugly despite all the cool tech it has
Lexus infotainment system should have a dark theme like Audi and VW.
They do have a "dark theme" which automatically dims the screen according to outdoor lighting input.
Alex, i don't mind Briant at all,
But let him do review on his own,
I don't like this, you start a though or a sentence and he then finishes it.
Hopefully you will take this as a friendly advice,
Just my personal preference i guess.
9:20 Lexus ain't stupid. They knew it got smaller on the inside. That's why they didn't say anything. 😄
We can see right through lexus marketing
Fractionally smaller, and the TX is coming.
@@joec1774 and knowing Lexus and Toyota, they will absolutely screw it up just like they screwed up the NX LX RX RZ BZ4X crown tundra sequoia
Why should this be any different?
@@naveenthemachine troll
This is from the owners manual for the 2022 }Lexus NX 350 turbo.
So probably the same for the new RX 350.
NX350: Select premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher required for optimum engine performance and fuel economy. If the octane rating is less than 91, damage to the engine may occur and may void the vehicle warranty.
Thanks. Let's see what the octane requirement will be for the 2.4 turbo in the 2023 Highlander. I suspect it will be Regular and the engine will produce just as much power as it does in the Lexus NX and RX.
No way this is making the advertised 275 hp. BMW X3 and Audi Q5 are a full 1-1.5 seconds faster to 60 (and return better fuel economy) with lower-rated engines.
Gearing is taller in the Lexus which doesn’t help
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Tall at the bottom and short at the top so it’s both slow and it sucks gas? Or is this Toyota’s lack of experience with turbocharging coming through? Or are they just cutting timing/boost in low gears to avoid torque steer because Toyota can’t engineer performance?
A fail for Toyota. Toyota can’t engineer performance. They need to rebadge bmws to achieve that
X3 and Q5 are obviously smaller, they are the same size as the NX, not the RX.
@@Mgoblagulkablong You’ve obviously never sat in the NX, RX and the Q5, in particular. RX is quite small inside, NX is a total clown car. RX and Q5/X3 all weigh around 4300 lb so the performance and economy should be about the same. X5 is a full 2.5 seconds faster to 60 and gets about the same combined mpg ratings. I think Toyota is once again behind the ball technologically after crapping on turbos as unreliable for decades. Finding the same with their EV that can’t DC fast charge because they bet on hydrogen instead.
With a long hood, I expect diver's visibility over the hood to be difficult.
I can’t believe they dropped the V6… I do not want a 4 cylinder SUV at all! My 2020 is AWD with a towing package that I’ve really put to work! I wouldn’t trust a turbo 4 hauling anything… just sucks!
Why is everyone discussing the grill before the actual car? It's almost like the people are looking forward to a bbq cookout.
The Darth Vader grill with a Frankenstein forehead isn’t a very nice looking vehicle.
Lexus will sell less and less RX 350’s . Pushing F Sport models with bigger tires, uncomfortable seats and a Harsh ride. Not everyone wants a hybrid.. lexus will learn the hard way. Pricing not yet announced, no doubt there will be an increase. 22’s are 50-65K . Don’t see many paying 60k+ for 4cyl turbo. I would suggest anyone looking to buy,4 to grab one of the 22’s they are still bing made . Should be some better deals on them, plus will have V6 under the hood .
Is that correct? second row leg room is merely 1 inch more than nx?
That’s what Lexus said, but their numbers keep changing, so…
I am very disappointed. I've been a loyal Lexus customer for two decades and have enjoyed a succession of RXs. But that string may be broken with this new one. I don't like losing the V6, legroom, the CD slot and embedded navigation. I don't like turbos and non-mechanical AWD systems. I think Lexus has made a huge mistake in alienating some of us.
There are three hybrid powetrains, and ICE will be gone by the end of the decade anyway. What's a CD and why does it need a slot?
Alienating YOU not US. You don't get to speak for anyone but yourself.
450h and 500h is faster than v6. Even Mercedes is giving up of its 6-cylinder . World is changing dude. In next few years you won’t see any 6-cylinder in this segment
@@Mark-de4hj so true.
I'd rather have the proven V6 over this 4 cylinder. It only saves me 1mpg, which is pathetic when we have BMW making way better engines with great reliability.
But you have other things that can break like all the plastic
BMW !!!!! reliability !!!!!!
@@anjansingh3093 lmao 🤣
Lexus goes all in on planned obsolescence to satisfy emissions regulations to the detriment of their customers*
Great review! and Brian can size up his shirt just saying
Brian should not do this.
my man BUFF
Wayne Liu is THIRSTY
Cabin noise grading?
Love Lexus. But not a fan of the Spindle Grill. The new RX is a little less ugly.
Lexus seem to have a less talented designers especially looking at grills nowadays. Should hire some one from Kia / Hyundai / Genesis design team.
As they said, you are trading the old six's smoothness for the turbo's torque
Not a great trade. Drives and sounds like a large Rav4.
Comes across as a larger Rav4, which is what it has become, and not a Lexus
Not interested in paying 50-large for a large 4-banging Rav4
Good luck cleaning bugs off the grill
Ouch... 2.4l turbo..really lexus ?
I, for one, find the new grill design language fugly!! Looks ..incomplete! The 2016-2022 had it right, again, imo!
Surely there's a model with 4-way lumbar? The Toyota Venza has 4-way (at least on some trims) for goodness sakes! As does my distinctly non-luxury 2001 Suburban (driver *and* passenger!!!)
luxury trim of the 2023 RX has 4-way lumbar for driver and passenger.
hello...you dont need to have any guess....i like when you talk...i dont like when you have guess...you dont need that...
21 inch wheels would not work for me in the Northeast Winters. Otherwise would go with the 350h
2.4 Turbo with only 275 horses? that's about a 2.0T BMW engine's output. and that 24MPG is not much improved than the V6, what's up with Toyota's technological improvement? seems like the Japanese can not keep up with either the Turbo or the electric car trend, so just keep remixing the dated tech with a new shell.
I think the reason for less power on the bigger engine is cos they don’t want to put as much strain on the engine, bigger capacity and less power equals a relatively less stressed engine which in the long run is better for fuel economy
What’s the torque difference?
@@ALMX5DP the torque difference is about 55 lb-ft between the 2GR V6 and this new turbo. So..quite substantial.
@@joec1774 thanks, had to look it up and also see that the 55lb/ft is produced in a much more broad fashion from 1700rpm-3600rpm. The old V6 likely isnt that broad and made peak torque at 4800rpm. To me that is a huge difference.
Indeed. The 2GR aged well and was quite smooth throughout the rev range, but it was indeed an older design and very typical of Toyota's V6s. Assertively pulling away from a stop definitely required leaning into the throttle a bit. Generally, folks dislike change; this turbo 4 will be gutsier around town and if Alex's video is any indication, perhaps only a bit less refined at true full throttle. I'm personally interested to see the actual accel times and MPGs. Lexus often estimates very conservatively.
The subtlety of being attacked by a Killer Whale certainly *"sporty"* let alone sleek let alone sheik none of that here is understating this catastrophe. At least I get some real sheet metal with the BMW!
Acura and Lincoln and of course Cadillac a huge winner from all of this crazy "let's build a hammer and call that proper Das Auto design."
Repairing that front fascia would be a nightmare. Such a stupid, impractical unnecessarily complicated design
Recent Acuras look much better
Cars that make such poor power numbers should never require premium fuel
Would not want the base turbo 4. Probably go for the 2.5 hybrid.
Even the 350h is a hard sell. Because it’s the exact same hybrid as the Highlander and sienna
It’s similar to the Toyota Highlander
It’s based on a Highlander 😂. That probably already ruins the entire luxury experience
Family has 2 RX in one garage , 1 RX in another garage , and an hs250 h in another garage . Lost a RX to a flood , lost another to a sever walk but we walked away . But , no Lexus ! We will not buy a 4 banger at the same price as a 6 cylinder , and no we will not pay 80 K for a RX with a 4 banger and 2 electric motors . I use to belong to a 4 wheel drive club and I know you can’t use a hybrid in a bad snow and you can not off road to go camping or on gravel road and forget pulling a trailer up hill . This is the worst move I have ever seen Lexus make . Lexus was putting 4 bangers in their hs250h and it failed Lexus already has the NX and It is not selling as good as the RX with the V6 . You’ve fine a very ignorant thing Lexus . You have lost 4 customers going with a 4 banger in an RX . I use to be a service advisor .
Why the heck do reviewers spend 5 to 10 minutes commenting on grills and "design language", like they are all reading from the same script? I can see the car on the video, I can make up my own opinions on style. Let's please cut out time-wasting fluff. And if you don't have all the manufacturer's specs anyway, just hold off. TH-cam, bring back thumbs down or start ratings.
Thanks for the feedback!
I didnt see lane centering…
Alright y'all...PLEASE stop comparing the new RX to a station wagon! Looks nothing like one and I don't remember them having any real luxury either.
Can manufacturers in general, and Toyota/Lexus in particular, have lost the plot on front-end styling. Aside from the ridiculous grille, whatever happened to a serviceable bumper? Besides, it's really time to ditch turbo models in favor of hybrid and especially plugin hybrid.
Why did you skip the trunk?
Because they already take it in the back end 🤣
Longer hood means less room inside. Not a good idea.
Can it tow?
The previous model properly equipped tows 3,500 lbs. I'm thinking this one does too.
Flowier ? How about slab sided and blunt ? And multiple fake style bits ? I’m skipping this one.
IMHO To me more of a "shark nose" than unibrow.
Is the guy in the video your son?
All the back and forth is kinda of annoyingly. Brian just agrees with anything making the video twice as long.
mileage is kinda meh
Replacing their V6 with a turbo 4 is the biggest and dumbest mistake Toyota ever made.
clearly you know more than highly compensated business executives, engineers, and emissions compliance experts of a global automotive giant.
@@anonymous00117 🤣
They knew you would not be buying this new vehicle, so they went ahead and dumped the V6.
All car manufacturers will eventually do this so what's your point? Blame your government and EPA restrictions
Compared to the Midsize Premium SUV segment, Lexus owners are more often women, are older, and enjoy a lower median annual household income. J.D. Power data shows that 42% of Lexus RX owners are female (vs. 38% for the segment), that their median age is 65 (vs. 58 for the segment), and that their median annual household income is $155,303 (vs. $184,248 for the segment).
Ok the stupid never ends here does it? lol
@@Mark-de4hj facts hurt your brand?
@@normt430 Not at all Norm. It just makes me wonder how some guys think that spending more or driving the biggest vehicle makes them look any better or their dks any bigger lol. And no, the fact that hard-working smart women know better than some men does not intimidate me at all. Interestingly though, using your own provided info, it seems more men than women actually own the RX so what exactly is your point?
There are a lot of luxury car drivers in the "other segment" you talk about that are leasing their cars to reduce out of pocket costs and its just natural that older people tend to have more money. Most 20-30 and even 40 year olds don't have a huge amount of money that they themselves earn (legitimately). That's why most don't have luxury cars.
BTW, I see a lot of women driving around in their big trucks so wonder how that must make you feel...?lol
Can you link me to the JD Power website page for this? Interesting.
Do you pay that millennial enough to buy a RX?
I think Alex is 41...making him the millennial, and Brian is Gen Z I believe.
The RX may be comfortable but it’s not to the same level of comfortable as the x5 w the air suspension, MDX w the air suspension, aviator w the air suspension, grand Cherokee summit w the air suspension, gv80 w the adaptive suspension, nautilus w the adaptive suspension
So no real advantage to the rx
Enough duo reviews. Painful and unnecessary
The interior is very Toyota. Just large screens, with no real design motif, befitting a luxury brand.
I expect better from Lexus.😮💨
Glad you’re disappointed. I think you were one of the people who laughed at me for saying the RX interior is the worst
As someone who has seen the new RX in person, I have to say the interior is quite nice, Camera doesn’t do it good justice, there is soft materials everywhere apart from the lower parts which makes sense cos it’s gonna get scratched up
@@alwaysiyi272 have you seen the genesis gv80 interior?
Who is this Brian dude?
I guess u aint been watching alex vids lately ... Brian been on many vids all year
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Gas vehicles just DONT any longer hold my interest . MY next new vehicle will be Electric
Dead on arrival. No surprise since it’s typical Lexus. They never fail to disappoint and significantly lower the bar in the automotive industry. The gv80 MDX aviator or even nautilus were already better options before the RX was unveiled and now that everyone’s driven it that still holds true.
We all knew those three main alternatives have thrown the RX in the garbage before it’s release. And guess what? That’s still the case.
Idk why anyone would waste their hard earned money on this when a gv80 MDX xc90 x5 GLE q7 q5 aviator nautilus or heck even mainstream options like the grand Cherokee L Summit, CX-9 Signature, telluride palisade Santa Fe all exist and are far superior to this Toyota highlander with dark brown lipgloss. That’s not an opinion. That’s a plain hard fact that only people without eyes would disagree on
Well done lexus. You made it that much easier to choose those rivals over this and the RX isn’t even on sale.
So important for Lexus… yet…. Very ugly and well behind the competition on looks… very disappointing… that nose looks like an afterthought !!!😢
The whole RX in general is an afterthought since it’s way behind its rivals including mainstream ones and this RX isn’t even on sale yet