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Nope, because long before Tesla, solar roof shingles were a “thing”. Several of our neighbors in CT have them. And Tesla is not a roofing company and is not known for its QC. I’m not inclined to use my roof, 20-30 year investment, as a beta test.
I get more energy benefit from the trees which block the sun in summer. The winter sun shines through the bare trees to warm the house. Roof mounted solar has a small window of maximum efficiency each day provided its not cloudy or covered with snow. The sun will heat the tiles and melt the ice and snow eventually. All the expense for maybe 25% yield of the installed capacity. We have a 10kw ground mounted tracking solar install. Summer yields 140kwh on a good day. 5 kWh or less on a rainy day. Winter skies are usually clear and sunny and even on shortest winter days 50kwh is possible. Because the panels tilt towards the sun the ice and snow melts and falls off without intervention. More maintenance because of mechanical but worth it. You can install fixed ground mounted solar and manually tilt the panels to get the most direct sun for your latitude. The suggestion to invest in a solar farm and not in a solar roof is probably the best idea unless you have special deals to cover the cost. There is a cost for virtue 🔋
Hi Matt. Great video! It makes perfect sense to go solar. I was curious if you could make a video talking about how the Hyper Loop and how the science behind it is actually beyond dangerous and not practical in any sense for humans. Thanks!
Just make sure when you buy your house, it's right next door to a fire station. LOL www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/20/walmart-tesla-lawsuit-solar-panels-fires
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Yeah I'm a professional roofer, it's important to remember how important roof integrity is as a vital building system. Roofers are forever in a battle with integrators who install their rooftop infrastructure but damage building integrity when they do so. Roofers fundamentally understand building integrity, other trades it's an afterthought. PV installers aren't roofers, so yeah it makes sense that roofers are the primary installers.
No joke, hard enough finding roofers who stick with the trade long enough to master the concept of proper flashing detail - can't imagine how oblivious non roofers would be
@@onetwothree4148 roofing, especially flat roofing which is what I specialize in, is like an arcane art. You could read all the books and still mess it up, the best roofers were taught by other roofers.
The weight worries me Our home was built in 1961, the roof framing structure is 2x4’s with 1/2 inch thick boards. I am thinking the boards be removed and strengthen the structure in addition to replace the existing ties from the roof into the framing the. Go with an interlocking plywood sheathing. Question is the roofing company have a license electrical team to connect the wiring up
@@edl617 are you 100% sure those boards are only 1/2"? I've never heard of that. 3/4" (1x6 or 1x8, nominally) were typical before the advent of plywood, and the 3/4" boards are far superior to plywood structurally (as long as they aren't completely rotten). 1x boards are stronger and resist water damage for much longer than plywood and are an infinitely better material than OSB. If the 2x4 rafters have too much deflection, it would probably be much easier to add additional truss bracing between them and the attic joists
Hi Matt, I was so excited to get a solar roof, but I just cancelled my order. Tesla increased my quote 30%+ over the weekend with no change in design and out of the blue they just chose not to honor a signed contract. I understand I was not the only one. That completely voided the financial benefit from getting solar and on top of that it killed trust and any will of doing business with Tesla (a company I used to love). If they don't honor a signed contract then there's nothing to stop them from not honoring other things such as warranty. Trust is very easy to lose and really hard to gain.
@@phironosurvivors2069 kinda defeats the purpose of a signed contract then no? They could show up and decide one minute before they start work to increase the costs 5000%. Or more likely after they remove your existing shingles, that's when the price goes up.
@@slcpunk2740 nearly every single contract is like that, literally. Your cell service contract. Your email contract (user agreement they call it). Every contract or user agreement leaves companies an "out" of some kind or some way. Read the fine print. Welcome to a sue happy world where you have to as a company.
How about "WEDDLE AND SUNS". Change just one letter to transform the entire meaning and communicate a solar message all at the same time! That is great branding. I'd do it fast before somebody else grabs the name, copyrights it and gets the web's .com domain name and then tries to sell it for a big profits.
Absolute respect to "Weddle & Sons" for choosing to share their views and experience with the audience - they are embracing a clean future and they're going to find a lot of us want that too!
I'm buying a house in 3 months JUST to put a solar roof on. Having been without power for 2 weeks because the power company can't maintain it's lines and they fail in winds, it's time to switch.
@@abufarsakh9919 Meanwhile Im sitting in arizona and havent had a single issue with losing power... even during monsoon season lol. Granted did live out in a place known as three way when i was younger... lost power if the wind blew to hard lol.
Considering that cost is usually the limiting factor, not roof area, and Tesla solar tiles have a relatively low cost per watt, I think in most cases you can get enough solar tiles to make it make sense.
of course the generation efficiency per/area would be less in case of a solar glass compared to proper solar panels. But, then if you consider practically extending it edge to edge, depending on your roof angle, orientation or shape it might even generate more energy in total.
I think the efficency of Tesla solar tile could be very low that common solar panel (maybe 5%, vs 23% of Sunpower solar panel). This is not a problem if you have enough space on the roof. Anyway, I am rather skeptical of the success of this Tesla product. Definetely It'll be not a new Tesla Model 3
The fact that I'm 17 and in 8-12 years time when im looking into buying a home who knows what sort of technology and benefits the future will hold I mean it is really exciting to think about it
Super exciting man. If you end up buying a home that may need a roof in a few years or so, you may be in the perfect position to adopt this tech when you need to replace!
You won't be excited when you buy the house and find out all the panels need replacing every 5 to 10 years ... My solar panel lasted 2 years before failing.
Looking at the repair or replacement the question is were the tile is secured in place you have re-secured in place. What means are they going to secure the new tile?
Great update Matt. Seems like demand is never the issue. The engineering challenge to make it scale and cost effective is the key. I really can’t wait to see how far and how fast this goes.
@@uspockdad6429 The edges catch the wind and then no roof. also glass solar panels are VERY DANGEROUS AND CAN EXPLODE DUE TO HOT/COLD CYCLES OR IF HAILSTONES HIT THEM. ALSO THE CABLES CAN SHORT CIRCUIT CAUSING A ROOF FIRE
@@billhanna2148 I would be against any product that raises the cost of the total solution with no benefits other than atheistic... with a small sacrifice in athstetics you can isntall standing seam roofs + solar between the seams at much higher output and lower costs. And... have a much longer lasting roof.
What an excellent video and great of Weddle and Sons to share their footage directly for this. Ultimately this video is such a good representation of how vendors should approach this type of new product.
@@ericweddle6619 Sir, I learned a lot watching Matt’s TH-cam and your interview. Your insights have given me the confidence to move forward with this product. I have one question, does everyone who install’s the Tesla Products have to attend the same level of training your team went through at Tesla?
@@WeddleAndSonsRoofing If you don't mind me asking, do you install dummy tiles around roof penetrations such as plumbing vents since those areas would normally be shaded and thus inactive anyway?
@@danielthechskid Yes. Also because there are metal flashings around those penetrations and for grounding reasons we don't let active PV tiles come in direct contact with metal flashings. But shade would also be a factor.
I’m actually planning on building my wife and myself a tiny house in just a few years, once we’re out of school, and this seems like something I might want to incorporate into the build.
That's a super smart idea because it would fit into the idea of keeping things small for your build, yet creating power. I don't know how much roofing space is needed to maximize the output, but I'm sure the experts out there can help you out. Good luck!
Sounds awesome! Just make sure you are giving some of that power back into the power grid. The government doesn’t like it when people are self sustaining.
If you do an individual tiny house solar panels are around ~20% more efficient (relative, absolut 5%) this will make a huge difference for a tiny house. Also with tiny houses you have a good chance of optimizing your roof for normal solar panels. So overall in my opinion for tiny houses go for high efficiency standard panels. Also the roof is not fully covered with panels mot of it is dummy panels be aware of that.
@@patrick_test123 Indeed, landing rockets vertically in the middle of an ocean on an unstable boat is a 1000x more costly and difficult. If they can do that, I’m sure they can figure out how to properly manage a solar roof lmfao
I have been interested in solar roof tiles for years. Great video clip. Here in Australia on the west coast, we used a corrugated metal roof product. What I would like to see is a paint, the most black paint developed to harness solar power.
How is it possible that you went the whole video never once even hinting at the fact that the roof is offsetting your electric bill costs which has a direct impact on the actual "cost" of the roof.
Yeah I agree - needs to weigh up swapping out the 2 family cars for electric. The maximum benefits to someone like me who pays out a fortune for oil heating throughout plus water heating - plus running the water pumps to move all the water for the underfloor heating.
@@protonneutron9046 Solar is viable at higher latitudes but not year round. With high energy costs in these areas, the ROI is more rapid. My daughter lives in Fairbanks, Alaska and I have noticed there are solar panels all over the place. 24 hour sun in the summer helps generate a lot of power.
except for telling you how much it will cost when you have to replace the underlying roof. Taking all of that off and then reinstalling is big money. And insurance will be higher.
You checked your insurance rates? They will go up. Any idea how much it will cost when you have to get a new roof to take all of that off and reinstall it?
Would love to hear how your install went. Adopting early to new tech can be a risk but this seems like a bet worth taking. Hope it all goes well for you
We were approached by Tesla to install the roofs. We are a roofing company here in Southern California. There was not a high enough profit margin for the company to effectively install these roofs with the asking price of the current roof they offer. This video really doesnt go over what it costs and WHY we arent seeing more of these roofs if the demand was so high. There were also major logistical issues with the products as well, local material houses are not allowed to carry tesla products, this means the product must come directly from 1 of 2 plants tesla owns here in California. These panels are amazingly strong but not invulnerable and this roofing system also has a ton of wires. Critters / pests love wires and if u were to replace ANY part of the roof you must get the products from tesla which could take 3-6 weeks for simple wires or a panel or 2. Tesla also tell you, TELLS YOU the company installing what your profits are for the product, for us the profit was 150 dollars PER project. This makes us incur major financial risks along with a profit margin so small that we would literally go bankrupt installing these roofs. California insurances dont care how green your roof is, you must pay the massive insurance cost per job as roofing is a high risk occupation. This may not be everyones experience with tesla and this product, but this was ours. Im assuming that this product was discontinued due to these issues.
I placed an order here in MA back after a tree fell damaging my roof back in February and I’m awaiting install currently . Sounds like they still don’t have enough teams for install in New England but they stated they are ramping up.
@@brucemcardle Just install a new roof + conventional solar already... your house will have fallen in before they are ready to service you, and they don't want to do old houses anyway, only new.
I just got a tesla power roof in august and I love it. The installers were an old solar city crew they did a phenomenal job I didn't know it was so repairable thank you for sharing .
I think the majority of the details will be pretty standard across the board just like what to expect from Tesla I'm regards to scheduling and parts delivery. But I think a big aspect is going to be the crews experience and the actual layout of the house. My roof has several odd pitches and is overall slightly steeper than most which I think added to the time required to complete the project.
Jordan, how did your install go? What are your energy savings? I also live in Texas and have need of a mew roof very soon. We definitely want to go solar.
@@lorrainenugent968 the process was long but once it was complete it's been great! It's been so cloudy in san antonio lately i haven't gotten great sun. But my high days so far have been 20-30kwh produced.. which is definitely going to be the lows of the year especially being winter. I feel like I'll have better production ideas after the summer. My 12.98kw system is supposed to produce in the neighborhood of 14kwh annually if i remember correctly
Refreshing to hear members, from within the trades, continuing to stay curious and excited to grow! You and Eric (roofing contractor in the video), are truly inspiring!
@@aaronwilson9763 roofers are interested in installing quality product, and not loosing money. We could care less about the debate over the practicality of solar. Design a quality roofing product and we will be there to install it.
Excellent video. That CFO was great, good honest insights. I need a whole new roof on a new home i bought, faces the s/sw, and with old trees and snow storms, the power goes out a lot...no brainer.
This was a timely piece for me! In Florida, in a 5,000 sf home with 7,000 sf of tile roof area. Roof is 22 years old, we’ve spent around $30K over the years repair and redoing an initial poor installation. Time to replace... been watching the Tesla product develop for the last 5 years. And now I think its timing in development and our timing of having to replace the roof have come together. I’ve made the contacts with Tesla, have paid for the estimate, have been signed a project# but have yet to hear directly from them... Fortunately I’m patient... we have no current roof problems... This video has been a HUGE step forward in erasing a lot of concerns I had... now its down to Tesla executing... to be continued...😎
Fascinating - my son is installing a Tesla solar roof right now and he sent me a link to a solar roof installation video. At this point, Tesla hit a home run in its product. It is cutting edge, looks like a shingled roof and will save money in the long run. As a financial executive, this is something I will consider in 10 years when I need a new roof. Very cool.
I am astonished that Asphalt Shingles are still used today. My roof in Ireland is on 22years and still as good as the time it was installed, also comes at a price point less than Asphalt Shingles. Lightweight Fibre Cement.
Same. Here in Oz the defaults are a metal roof (low cost, quick to install, range of colours, very long lasting) or clay tiles (higher cost, longer to install, range of colours, variable lifetime).
@@prescod Hi, thanks for that , I did wonder . Although in Ireland Green Asphalt felt is used on flat roofing and some low pitched roofs, it comes in rolls , it's very messy , needs to be tar sealed at the seams and has a short life. Certainly it would not be used on a main house roof as the Fibre Cement Slates are well priced. 👍 I love the idea of a solar roof though.
I would LOVE to get a solar roof. When I have to replace my roof (which should be in the next 5-7 years) I'm 95% certain it will be a solar one. Thanks for the analysis.
I read somewhere that solar panels can lower your home value since some people find them ugly. This is what I think makes the solar roof so special. It actually looks good. I'd definitely consider one if I were a homeowner.
At 51-55 North, you need to run the numbers. Anything but a sloped roof to the S or SSE might not make sense. Even if your local politicians force your neighbors to pay half. (subsidies and feed-in rates) contemporaryenergy.co.uk/insolation-map/ And with the UK's crumbling grid, over 25 years you can expect variable 15 minute pricing and forced curtailment.
We live in the UK (the Midlands) and had solar panels installed over 10 years ago, they have generated plenty of electricity in the summer, even in the spring and autumn.
The thing about tax credits is they are generally offered for novel installations. Usually they can't scale to mainstream adoption. It's fine to subsidize solar when it's still in the proof of concept stage, but such technologies must be able to stand on their own when they enter the mainstream. See you're not really getting a break, you're just distributing the cost through taxation. When a product goes mainstream, and tons of people are buying it, tax breaks stop making sense as you're basically still paying that cost, just buy other avenues. Those other avenues then require their own administration, which ultimately makes solar more expensive on the larger scale, because you've added an unnecessary administration cost to all solar. No alternative energy technology should depend on subsidies long term.
@@jeremyO9F911O2 I sort of agree with you as far as you went. But you left out the massive subsidies we give to the fossil fuel industry in allowing them to pollute but not pay for the harm caused by that pollution. We are spending tens of billions of dollars per year on pollution caused health problems. If we spend some money now to get more renewable energy on our grids and more EVs on our roads we create long term health cost savings. "The burning of fossil fuels contributes to four of the five leading causes of death in the United States, including heart disease, cancer, stroke, and lung diseases, while putting children at risk of asthma and delayed mental development [1]. All these missed work days, hospital visits, and deaths not only cause suffering, but they handicap our economy, increase insurance premiums, and contribute to an unsustainable growth in health care costs. Coal plants alone cause more than 13,000 deaths each year in the United States [2]. According to the National Academy of Sciences, the burning of fossil fuels causes $120 billion annually in mostly health-related damages. [3]" A decade of $120 billion in annual spending adds up to $1.2 trillion dollars. There's no need, as far as I can see, to spend as much as a trillion dollars subsidizing renewable energy but even if we did spend that much we'd get it back in ten years of lower pollution spending. And then we'd save another $1.2 trillion the next decade. Subsidizing renewable energy is a very good investment. It simply makes financial sense. -- Globally the economic and health costs of air pollution from burning fossil fuels totaled $2.9 trillion in 2018. Almost $3 trillion in a single year.
@@bobwallace9753 yes I anticipated your "what about" counter argument. The problem with your thinking is twofold. Firstly FF is the giant renewables must concur, as such it needs to be better than that giant. Fiscally I mean, subsidies/tax breaks are fine for jump starting the process, but as I explain at a certain point the subsidies for solar become redundant and fiscally counter productive. See much of the subsidies in fossil fuels exist for two reasons, firstly they are there for energy assurance. Basically the country doesn't want to run out of energy, we do the same thing with food subsidies. Here really any form of energy can apply for subsidy as long as it's both abundant and reliable. Which FF basically are. Abundant and reliable has always been a challenge solar faces and that conversation is well treaded ground. Of course the other reason for FF subsidies is energy security, since solar doesn't need to depend on foreign oil wells, it's exempt from that need which is actually a vote it solar's favor. I'm not too researched on the supply chain but as far as I know the materials needed to build solar are fairly common and wouldn't depend on sourcing from conflict regions. Though America would need to dramatically increase its solar production and not depend on China so much as it's the current reality. Like I say the "what about oil subsidies" argument isn't very useful, subsidies are still payed by taxes meaning the tax payer still pays. I'm not suggesting subsidies aren't appropriate in the proof of concept phase we are still in. Just that if it must depend on subsidies to exist long term then it must develop more. Also just to put my cards on the table, I'm an energy realist. I'm not guided by political lines on energy, I'm outright anti-coal. But far less pessimistic on crude and natural gas, I'm all for replacing them wherever practical. I submit that commuter EV is a promising avenue to pursue, but I'm more pessimistic about that technology scaling to heavy transportation, and I have almost no faith that we will replace hydrocarbons with batteries in aircraft. Though there are carbon neutral synthetic fuels to consider. But I refuse to play the "feel good" renewables game, where people love wind and solar because they don't have a smelly tailpipe. I think they have their place, but I also think that their advocates don't apply the same critical analysis as they do to other energy technology. To be honest the technology I prefer is neither FF or wide scale renewables, I'm all about nuclear. I feel that any discussion of alternative energy solutions that reject nuclear are irrational, ignorant, acinie, and ultimately doomed to failure.
One question I have, as a solar installer, is it worth covering the north-facing arrays in these tiles? We rarely ever install panels on the north side because it gets the least amount of sunlight out of all directions and most cases does not produce enough power to really cover the cost of putting them there in a decent amount of time. Of course it would look odd, especially if the north side and another side are visible to the street. But it all depends on what kind of money customers would like to spend Another question I have is a lot of power companies have a limit to how much solar you can install. In the state of MN, you are allowed up to 125% of your average power use. And when installing solar panels, they determine how many solar panels you can put on your roof. But sometimes homeowners use a lot of power, but have a small surface area on their roof, or Vice versa. I imagine they have modules of varying efficiency, but sometimes there’s the discrepancy of your roof being covered by a lower level module that only covers 115% or the next level which would be too much and make it 135% (just random numbers I’m pulling out). Do they just go with that 115% cause that’s the best they can do, can you talk to your power company and see if they’re willing to negotiate going a little bit over your limit? Or could these modules be custom made so you can get that 125% limit for the whole surface area?
You can always use a non-PV tile on the north side of the roof in the same style and color as the PV tiles. I'd say that it is not worth it cost wise to put PV tiles on the north side.
There's something they're not talking about here and that's the fact that each roof needs to be custom built instead of just building the panels and sending them. The roof will have to all be built at once and assembled as they get delivered. Meaning that the angles of the tiles, at the point of intersecting, will need to be cut prior to making the glass; as they are tempered. I mean they are being built but we'll end up going into an apple situation as well, where you can only get use their batteries. There are a few things they're omitting from this interview.
You raise an excellent point. As this technology develops I would expect home design to change and be informed by the knowledge the house will have a solar roof. I would think a company like the one in the video would be able to provide architects and home designers points to consider. I would think if designing and building a new home it would be possible to do it in a way to lower the installation cost. Just something as simple as making the dimensions of the roof a multiple of the installed dimension of the tiles.
My current roof has about another 5 years to go, and I am very intrigued by the Tesla roof. Thanks for the info, you have a new subscriber, and I'm enjoying going through your catalog of past videos. My climate is very much like Boston, and it's good to hear how positive your solar experience has been.
“When you look around the neighborhood in the future, decade from now, what do you want? What products are going to make your life better? What future do you want? And I think a future where we’ve got beautiful roofs generating energy that are tough and resilient and better in every way than a regular roof and alive with energy, that’s the future we want. Solar Roof is a killer product. This will become obvious next year.” -- Elon Musk
Its solar efficiency is still low compared to a regular panel. Which means we can get more electricity by installing regular panels on a smaller area. In the end, it's all about cost savings isn't it? Tesla needs to improve on their tile solar efficiency
@@epiccollision Build and Maintain two roof systems? wtf are you talking about. I've had Solar panels on my roof 15 years. The only time i've touched my roof was replacing some silicone at the struct base of my antenna about 8 years ago, took me about 25 minutes and cost $5.00. gone through plenty of hail storms during that time and no damage was done to my roof or the panels. Even if it was my insurance protects from hail damage to both the roof and the panels. As for maintaining the solar panel system a Ladder, a Hose with a pressure head and extension pole with a squeezy on it are all that's needed 2 times a year job done in under an hour. Just be honest you just want this shit because it's shiny and new you haven't even looked at traditional roof top solar. Stop making shit up. There's nothing about roof top solar that's going to spiral costs upwards.
I call BS on that. 3M was way ahead of Tesla in the solar tile market and R&D way before Elon Musk stole... I mean thought of the idea, and they completely shut down the whole project for good reason; that being the technology isn't viable without a major advancement in solar technology. Standard solar panels are far more efficient and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
My main concern with it was repairability for when one of the electric components inevitably craps put. If that's as good as he says, then I see Tesla having no problem selling as many of these as they can make for several years. I don't see it becoming mainstream for quite some time though. People like to wait and see how they're holding up before sticking it on their house.
@@rogerstarkey5390 and its still very expensive and you have to pay for a very long time, why not simply invest in a giant solar farm installation project!
I live in Europe but lived most of my life in Canada. Most Europeans generally only use asphalt shingles for their sheds, as they look better and last much longer. I like the look of these roofs and could see them doing well here.
Need to see this ramped up to complete housing developments, not just individual houses. Also the 25 year timeline is a bit worrying. A good slate roof will last 100 years with a bit of maintenance, that's what we need to see with glass.
I’m in the process of getting one installed now. Wait time was about 6 months. The limiting factor, in California, seems to be installers not materials.
Looks like a fantastic idea. I wonder how they would hold up during a hurricane (hit directly by 2 last year.) and how costly it would be to replace those damaged, IF you were able to get any. I have a 17.5kw generac that powers my whole home, ac included, for days (grid went out for 7 days first hurricane, 9 days the second) and my shingles stood up to both. My generator was $3,100, $400 for an automatic transfer switch. Cost of gas combined was $235. My homes brand new and small. Don’t see any advantages here.
Add in StarLink and you can even have internet in remote areas. If they come up with water and sewage treatment then it will meet all the essentials for a home
@@AlexFlockhart Starlink is a bit sus, idk if international committees will allow the doubling of the number of satellites on low earth orbit. Because if one of them breaks, it's gonna create a catastrophic cascase and create so much space junk that it'll be next to impossible to have future space flights. Untill we figure out how to successfully capture space junk, I don't see star link happening tbh.
@@letsnotmakethispersonal6021 All solar panels are hail resistant. I've had solar for 30 years and have never had a panel damaged by hail. Of course I don't live where hail can get as large as softballs. Some places have hail storms that smash the roofs of cars. Not many types of roofing would avoid damage in those conditions.
@@letsnotmakethispersonal6021 Can't answer that. My first question would be whether that would cause an increase in panel cost that would drive up the cost of a Tesla solar panel package. There's two markets here. Solar roofs, at least for now, are for more upscale houses. Houses where people are willing to pay for a more attractive roof than a simple asphalt shingle roof. Tesla really has no competition here and, based on info in this quite good video, Tesla is competitive with other upscale roofing methods. Solar panels are for the retrofit market. People are looking for solar at the best possible price. Tesla seems to have figured out how to deliver very competitive solar packages via fixed size packages and not spending money finding customers. Right now Tesla needs to keep the cost of their installed solar packages as low as possible in order to create a lot of word of mouth advertising. Maybe it makes sense to let insurance companies worry about extreme hailstones,, hurricanes, and tornadoes rather than building a bulletproof panel and having to charge for that level of engineering.
@@letsnotmakethispersonal6021 It's because regular solar panels are specced for high efficiency, and these solar panels are worse than flex solar panels efficiency wise. Literally the only thing these panels have going for them is their looks.
One BIG advantage and not mentioned, contractors can literally replace every solar tile without removing a nail. Not having to seal, or miss sealing holes in the roof membrane probably extends the life of a whole roofing system.
Do you have to get an electrical permit/ building permit everytime you want to add one or more module. And do you need to get interconnection paperwork done ?
This makes me excited. I live in Dallas, so hail (sometimes huge) is totally a thing here and has been one of the things I was wondering about durability -wise. This is another market I believe Tesla will own moving forward. Too cool!
The roof has a redundant conventional underlay, if the underlay is installed properly then any failure of the Tesla roof will be ok as long as they can be remedied in a timely manner.
Gu1tarJohn, I also live in the Dallas area, I've had solar panels for 3 years now, and last spring we had some big hail, but absolutely no damage whatsoever to my solar panels.
The excitement will wane when you have to replace the underlying roof. Imagine what it would cost to take all of that off then reinstall. Or if you get a leak right in the middle of it.
What would you do in areas that get heavy snow? How would you remove the snow so you could get power to the house? Also, I live in hurricane alley. Would these be easily replaced when 130mph wind rips them off of my roof?
Really awesome video Matt. Thanks for putting it together. I'm out here in Australia and low key holding out on building my own home so that it can have a solar roof installed from the get go. Hopefully Tesla can bring it down under within the next few years!
@@bobwallace9753 AFAIK it's a completely different set of people working for SpaceX and Tesla. Elon doesn't come up with every idea and every solution to a problem. He's just the CEO. Thomas Mueller is the brains behind SpaceX. Not sure if there's anyone in particular behind Tesla's solar roofing. Seems more of a team effort integrating existing technologies.
Tesla claim ~21% efficiency of the panel but that efficiency is dimensionless so it will not change with area. I think you are missing the point tho, the efficiency is a less important quantity than the overall power generation. It is more dependant on the geometry of the roof than simply the efficacy of the panel.
For the articulate roofer (I agree with JJI's coment): We live next to Puget Sound in the Seattle, Washington area. There are lots of Seagulls and Crows and they habitually drop clams or mussels, often with a golf ball to baseball-sized rock attached, onto our roof. It's like hailstones only less numerous and can't be any bigger than the bird can lift. Have you had any experience with this - objects dropped on the Tesla tiles? How well do they perform in resisting impacts?
I'm curious if there's a grading limit on the installation. Just bought a house with a steep Victorian roof, including a tower. The current asphalt will need replacing in a couple years, and we'd really like to do solar.
Awesome to hear from an actual roofer installing them. I have 10 years left on my roof and I'm honestly thinking about saving the extra money to install a Tesla solar roof if It can last 20+ years. If you also spend the money and do what Germany is doing with their home heating designs solar roofs make a lot of sense and can save a lot of money on home heating/cooling and electric energy use.
That's nonsense.... a Telsa roof is 4x the price per square foot compared to a top quality standing seam roof. With the money left over you could buy mount an equivalent solar system and batteries. And all you got was a roof with solar and no batteries. Basically a 40k Tesla roof with a regular metal roof would only cost about $10k, and a conventional solar system would only cost about 10-15k + another 10k for batteries.
You cannot even do an asphalt roof for $10k any more. I just had a modest one done on a ranch home in October and it was $15k. Top end materials, but still....
@@bcoldwell1, I just had my 1000 Sq Ft home roof done for $5000 using Owens Corning 30 year architectural shingles, including stripping to the bare deck, new felt paper, new roof vents and new plumbing vent seals. Including hauling away old materials to the landfill. These high quotes people are giving for the asphalt roofs are not what it actually cost if you shop around. The Tesla roof, if available, would be $86,000 with 4.4 kw of solar. Ridiculous.
One thing you didn't mention, the non-Tesla roofs reflect the suns energy back up into the atmosphere. One or two houses wouldn't be a problem but if you had a whole neighborhood of reflecting solar panels there is an increase chance of changing weather conditions. Since Tesla's panels are satin, they won't reflect as much of the sun's energy. Another selling point. Nice report. Thanks.
I would love to have one just need to figure out how to get it since I’m a Nigerian 🇳🇬 and lives here but love to install this in my own house 🏡 once I can figure out how to get it
Our dream roof has always been to get a metal roof and then traditional solar panels with a battery storage system. The Tesla roof looks like an intriguing option. One question though is metal roofs are known to be quite a bit more energy efficient compared to asphalt shingles due to the amount of heat they reflect during the summer and insulation it provides during winter. Do you know how the Tesla roof compares with a metal roof as far as energy efficiency regarding your A/C and heating costs?
Glass is a good insulator, so should be almost or as good as a metal roof. Solar panels on top of a metal roof would have a bit of shading on those sections with a small air gap so may be a bit better in terms of reducing heat absorption during the summer?
If Musk wants his solar roofs to go mainstream, he's going about it the wrong way. 4 years ago my roof was quoted at $56,000 installed with a lifetime warranty. Today it's $100,000 and only a 25 year warranty. Usually when a product goes mainstream the price goes down, not up.
Thank You Matt, I really appreciate you doing an in-depth video on this product. To this point we’ve only seen finished installations as opposed to the up close detail of the product itself and how it’s installed. My home needs a new roof, but I live Wisconsin. I really want Tesla solar of some kind. Do you know if there is a Map that shows the states where Tesla solar products are available?
If you go to the Tesla website they have an informative calculator. You can enter roof size and normal electric usage and it will give you a price. As for installation area when I did it for our house (mountains of northern Colorado) was told no installers in our area, and would be notified when installation is available. When I changed our address to the nearest population area (Fort Collins) it shows installation available. So I think they are getting closer on the installation, just a matter of demand and enough people where you are to be worth it.
I’m in MA and have been wanting solar, but never liked the existing solutions. I’m super tempted by the solar tiles. My home is 15 years old, so the roof, technically, is coming due for replacement in the next 5 to 10 - so I think I’m going to wait until then, and go with these Tiles.
Very nice video! The maintenance, durability, and replacement have always been my biggest questions on Tesla’s solar roof. Some of that was touched on in here.
Live in California and my home is in need of a new roof. The cost is crazy high but I plan to get several quotes and go with the middle quote. A side note is we purchased a Tesla model 3 last month. The purchase did not go smooth. Car came with flaws that the advisor refused to write up. She advised we go into the app and request a service appointment. The car was not washed and had the whole pickup experience seems rushed (the push to sell more cars). The roof will cost more than a model 3 so we're hesitant to consider Tesla. Great video and your work is stellar as usual. I would definitely consider Weddle and Sons if they were out here. Customer service and good companies are hard to find in this day and age.
Yes cost benefit analysis would be a must when deciding roofing expenses, but the video does say that on whatever size roof they determined a standard asphalt shingle would be 42k and the Tesla solar roof would be 56k. It also states you'd be expected to replace the Asphalt roof at least once over the lifetime of the solar roof meaning over the course of 25 year life cycle you spend at least 84k on the Asphalt option and 56k on the solar roof option. I highly doubt you'd be staring down 30k in additional costs on the solar roof, but if you were then I would consider going all electric so that your utility bill savings would offset that in it's own. Just some quick math here can show that, my average utility bill is 200 per month let's say I could completely 0 that with a solar roof and switch to all electric. That would make my annual savings 2400, over the course of a 25 years that would save me 60k. Now obviously you won't completely 0 your bill, but that was an easy way to do the math.
@@joshuatayloe8616 If you are paying over 40k for a shitty shingle roof you are being HUGELY ripped off. Here in Australia a standard long run steel roof will run you maybe 20k. 10k for a nice solar setup on top of that. I dread to think what a Tesla roof will cost here but I expect it would be easily 70-80k.
@@joshuatayloe8616 I computed that install of standard shingle would cost 42k USD on a roof of a house in the at least 15000 sqft range. If your house is a bungalow that is 15000 sq ft I doubt that you care about cost - analysis. Tesla roof is cool and you get it or not cool and get something else.
@@Shrouded_reaper These are "green guys" they inflate price of a shingle roof by factor of 10x to make it look cool. No one question them as iSheep never worked with their hands in entire life so have no idea how much stuff costs.
@@BillGates_Alex No, isotropic means the properties DO NOT depend on the direction. The quote is "isotropic, meaning it can look purple from one direction and green from another." That doesn't sound right at all to me.
Excellent information and analysis. Thank you for this. We currently have 43 traditional solar panels on our home. Perhaps the next roof will be one like what is being shown here.
@@JeffPalk The big need right now is a company installing home charging stations in apartment buildings using existing AC unit breakers. So each apartment is paying for it's own vehicle charging. Multi billion dollar business right there.
Matt you really are providing a great service to your followers! Thanks!! I have been anxiously waiting to see if Tesla could go mainstream with their solar shingles and this really sealed it for me. I have been building homes for 40+ years 21 of which I have mainly moved into helping homeowners maintain their homes so maintenance is my focus and this interview highlighted that. Thanks again!!!
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Nope, because long before Tesla, solar roof shingles were a “thing”. Several of our neighbors in CT have them. And Tesla is not a roofing company and is not known for its QC. I’m not inclined to use my roof, 20-30 year investment, as a beta test.
I get more energy benefit from the trees which block the sun in summer. The winter sun shines through the bare trees to warm the house. Roof mounted solar has a small window of maximum efficiency each day provided its not cloudy or covered with snow. The sun will heat the tiles and melt the ice and snow eventually. All the expense for maybe 25% yield of the installed capacity. We have a 10kw ground mounted tracking solar install. Summer yields 140kwh on a good day. 5 kWh or less on a rainy day. Winter skies are usually clear and sunny and even on shortest winter days 50kwh is possible. Because the panels tilt towards the sun the ice and snow melts and falls off without intervention. More maintenance because of mechanical but worth it. You can install fixed ground mounted solar and manually tilt the panels to get the most direct sun for your latitude. The suggestion to invest in a solar farm and not in a solar roof is probably the best idea unless you have special deals to cover the cost. There is a cost for virtue 🔋
Hi Matt. Great video! It makes perfect sense to go solar. I was curious if you could make a video talking about how the Hyper Loop and how the science behind it is actually beyond dangerous and not practical in any sense for humans. Thanks!
Couldn’t wait any longer, so I went with traditional panels.
I've already decided I'm going to get a solar roof. Now i just need to figure out how I'm going to get my own house for the roof.
Just make sure when you buy your house, it's right next door to a fire station. LOL
www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/20/walmart-tesla-lawsuit-solar-panels-fires
@@puma.will.pounce7590 tesla has a warranty LOL
@@danzjz3923 - I'm sure Walmart also had a warranty from Tesla, yet still ended up having to sue them.
@@puma.will.pounce7590 i'm sure that the tech has improved over two and a half years
and that you are a troll
Same 😅
This panel can put out close to 100 watts th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
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Congratulations on finding the world's most articulate roofer and for producing a great report.
I think I'm going to frame this
Oh no... his head was already too big
He's a CFO of a roofing company not a roofer.
@@sean2044 I started as a roofer though! And on Monday I'll be wearing a toolbelt installing a Solar Roof! ;)
@@ericweddle6619 credit to you and the team, Eric!
Yeah I'm a professional roofer, it's important to remember how important roof integrity is as a vital building system. Roofers are forever in a battle with integrators who install their rooftop infrastructure but damage building integrity when they do so.
Roofers fundamentally understand building integrity, other trades it's an afterthought. PV installers aren't roofers, so yeah it makes sense that roofers are the primary installers.
@Slowmo I'm pretty sure you don't have to worry about that.
No joke, hard enough finding roofers who stick with the trade long enough to master the concept of proper flashing detail - can't imagine how oblivious non roofers would be
@@onetwothree4148 roofing, especially flat roofing which is what I specialize in, is like an arcane art. You could read all the books and still mess it up, the best roofers were taught by other roofers.
The weight worries me Our home was built in 1961, the roof framing structure is 2x4’s with 1/2 inch thick boards. I am thinking the boards be removed and strengthen the structure in addition to replace the existing ties from the roof into the framing the. Go with an interlocking plywood sheathing. Question is the roofing company have a license electrical team to connect the wiring up
@@edl617 are you 100% sure those boards are only 1/2"? I've never heard of that. 3/4" (1x6 or 1x8, nominally) were typical before the advent of plywood, and the 3/4" boards are far superior to plywood structurally (as long as they aren't completely rotten). 1x boards are stronger and resist water damage for much longer than plywood and are an infinitely better material than OSB. If the 2x4 rafters have too much deflection, it would probably be much easier to add additional truss bracing between them and the attic joists
Hi Matt, I was so excited to get a solar roof, but I just cancelled my order. Tesla increased my quote 30%+ over the weekend with no change in design and out of the blue they just chose not to honor a signed contract. I understand I was not the only one. That completely voided the financial benefit from getting solar and on top of that it killed trust and any will of doing business with Tesla (a company I used to love). If they don't honor a signed contract then there's nothing to stop them from not honoring other things such as warranty. Trust is very easy to lose and really hard to gain.
Fairy certain the fine print indicates sudden Market changes and fluctuations allows Tesla to "adjust" estimate.
Agreed. I would be cautious with that and probably have to speak with something to do business of that nature again.
It's all a scam.
@@phironosurvivors2069 kinda defeats the purpose of a signed contract then no? They could show up and decide one minute before they start work to increase the costs 5000%. Or more likely after they remove your existing shingles, that's when the price goes up.
@@slcpunk2740 nearly every single contract is like that, literally. Your cell service contract. Your email contract (user agreement they call it). Every contract or user agreement leaves companies an "out" of some kind or some way. Read the fine print. Welcome to a sue happy world where you have to as a company.
That roofer should definitely change his company's name to 'Weddle and Sun'.
OMG how has this never come up before?
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How about "WEDDLE AND SUNS". Change just one letter to transform the entire meaning and communicate a solar message all at the same time! That is great branding. I'd do it fast before somebody else grabs the name, copyrights it and gets the web's .com domain name and then tries to sell it for a big profits.
Absolute respect to "Weddle & Sons" for choosing to share their views and experience with the audience - they are embracing a clean future and they're going to find a lot of us want that too!
Yes! And also for his frankness
"Clean"?
@@fuckednegativemind ..... Cleaner. :)
Thanks! We appreciate how much interest and excitement there is for this and other innovations. Hope we can help move it forward!
Question for you.How clean is the manufacture and then disposal of these tiles?
I'm buying a house in 3 months JUST to put a solar roof on. Having been without power for 2 weeks because the power company can't maintain it's lines and they fail in winds, it's time to switch.
you must be in California. Because thats my problem, winds. Was a week without power. SCE.
@@veronicajones6403 texas
Sounds like the south, happened like three times this month so far
@@abufarsakh9919 Meanwhile Im sitting in arizona and havent had a single issue with losing power... even during monsoon season lol. Granted did live out in a place known as three way when i was younger... lost power if the wind blew to hard lol.
@@destroyerdragon2002 I lost power like 5 days ago during a severe thunderstorm but it was only for a couple of hours - so now it’s 4
I'm curious how the amount of electricity generated compares with a standard solar installation for the same roof.
Considering that cost is usually the limiting factor, not roof area, and Tesla solar tiles have a relatively low cost per watt, I think in most cases you can get enough solar tiles to make it make sense.
Solar efficiency vs regular panels would be a very interesting topic
of course the generation efficiency per/area would be less in case of a solar glass compared to proper solar panels. But, then if you consider practically extending it edge to edge, depending on your roof angle, orientation or shape it might even generate more energy in total.
also depends on where you live, how much sun do you get
I think the efficency of Tesla solar tile could be very low that common solar panel (maybe 5%, vs 23% of Sunpower solar panel). This is not a problem if you have enough space on the roof. Anyway, I am rather skeptical of the success of this Tesla product. Definetely It'll be not a new Tesla Model 3
The fact that I'm 17 and in 8-12 years time when im looking into buying a home who knows what sort of technology and benefits the future will hold I mean it is really exciting to think about it
Super exciting man. If you end up buying a home that may need a roof in a few years or so, you may be in the perfect position to adopt this tech when you need to replace!
Judging by Fahad’s name, he will succeed.
@@pdblouin probably a lot more affordable for a 25-30 year old than for a 17 year old now
You won't be excited when you buy the house and find out all the panels need replacing every 5 to 10 years ... My solar panel lasted 2 years before failing.
@@stableianF1oracle What brand were the solar panels?
Looking at the repair or replacement the question is were the tile is secured in place you have re-secured in place. What means are they going to secure the new tile?
Great update Matt. Seems like demand is never the issue. The engineering challenge to make it scale and cost effective is the key. I really can’t wait to see how far and how fast this goes.
A gust of wind and your roof get blown off as the solar panels are NOT FLUSH with the roof and actually CATCH the wind at the edges
@@esecallum I am 99% sure they’ve tested their roofs for wind loads they can handle.
@@uspockdad6429 The edges catch the wind and then no roof. also glass solar panels are VERY DANGEROUS AND CAN EXPLODE DUE TO HOT/COLD CYCLES OR IF HAILSTONES HIT THEM. ALSO THE CABLES CAN SHORT CIRCUIT CAUSING A ROOF FIRE
@@esecallum Your really clutching at straws aren't you
@@jamesminett9717 GOOGLE SOLAR PANELS BLOWN BY WIND. you will be shocked and hortified.
My asphalt shingles have a few years left but in 5 to 10 years I will be looking at a Tesla roof.
@Tim Ryan but would you bet against it 🤔??
@@billhanna2148 I would be against any product that raises the cost of the total solution with no benefits other than atheistic... with a small sacrifice in athstetics you can isntall standing seam roofs + solar between the seams at much higher output and lower costs. And... have a much longer lasting roof.
@@Wingnut353 So.. you didn't watch the video and just decided to make up numbers in your head. You do you.
I have storm damage and got a quote for a roof... $15k for architectural shingles and $96k for a Tesla roof.... yea that’s not a typo!!!
@@gemrough Tesla fanboys will still pay $96,000 to get a Tesla roof even if 90% of their roof is covered in full shade year round.
What an excellent video and great of Weddle and Sons to share their footage directly for this. Ultimately this video is such a good representation of how vendors should approach this type of new product.
Thanks for the update! I have a Tesla Solar Roof and Powerwall going in next month, installed by Weddle & Sons!
Hey Sam! We're looking forward to it!
@@ericweddle6619 YOOOO it’s the man himself. Thanks for coming on the channel and sharing your fantastic insight!!
@@ericweddle6619 Sir, I learned a lot watching Matt’s TH-cam and your interview. Your insights have given me the confidence to move forward with this product.
I have one question, does everyone who install’s the Tesla Products have to attend the same level of training your team went through at Tesla?
@@LAGaffer excellent question. Looking forward to the answer.
Weddle and Sons service my area. Good chance I'll be calling these guys sometime.
Sweet! We'll be here!
@@WeddleAndSonsRoofing If you don't mind me asking, do you install dummy tiles around roof penetrations such as plumbing vents since those areas would normally be shaded and thus inactive anyway?
@@danielthechskid Yes. Also because there are metal flashings around those penetrations and for grounding reasons we don't let active PV tiles come in direct contact with metal flashings. But shade would also be a factor.
@@WeddleAndSonsRoofing Thank you for your time.
I’m actually planning on building my wife and myself a tiny house in just a few years, once we’re out of school, and this seems like something I might want to incorporate into the build.
That's a super smart idea because it would fit into the idea of keeping things small for your build, yet creating power. I don't know how much roofing space is needed to maximize the output, but I'm sure the experts out there can help you out. Good luck!
Yep, I'm planning to do the same with mine. A nice powerwall will sort out the battery bank issues most tiny houses have.
Sounds awesome! Just make sure you are giving some of that power back into the power grid. The government doesn’t like it when people are self sustaining.
Same! I just wanted the tesla roof but now im thinking about the tesla wall!
If you do an individual tiny house solar panels are around ~20% more efficient (relative, absolut 5%) this will make a huge difference for a tiny house. Also with tiny houses you have a good chance of optimizing your roof for normal solar panels. So overall in my opinion for tiny houses go for high efficiency standard panels. Also the roof is not fully covered with panels mot of it is dummy panels be aware of that.
“I don’t want to bet against a man who lands rockets vertically”
Great insight, there..... 🚀
Not just that! Verttically...on a boat...in the ocean!
Really? Landing rockets and building millions or even billions of solar panels are completely different challanges.
@@patrick_test123 Indeed, landing rockets vertically in the middle of an ocean on an unstable boat is a 1000x more costly and difficult. If they can do that, I’m sure they can figure out how to properly manage a solar roof lmfao
Philip Bono designer of Douglas Aircraft's SASSTO in 1967?
@@patrick_test123 My guess is you're the type of person that has to have jokes explained to them. It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison.
I'm interested in the wind resistance of this product. I live in a 130mph hurricane zone so this is important.
Yep. I'm down here in Florida and I was wondering how feasible it would be.
@@GazMatic Yep. Florida gulf coast here.
Currently applications that will be rated > 130MPH with some minor (and easy) modifications
@@WeddleAndSonsRoofing Thank you for your response. Do you know if the product has a Florida State Product Approval Number?
@@gregeconomeier1476 We don't know about that, but our understanding is that Tesla is actively installing in Florida, so...probably?
I have been interested in solar roof tiles for years. Great video clip. Here in Australia on the west coast, we used a corrugated metal roof product. What I would like to see is a paint, the most black paint developed to harness solar power.
Good idea getting an installers pov! Glad I watched it, even though I’m not likely to get a new roof anytime soon.
I'll need a new roof in about 10 years. Hopefully, the solar roof will be available where I live in 2030.
Same thing here.
How is it possible that you went the whole video never once even hinting at the fact that the roof is offsetting your electric bill costs which has a direct impact on the actual "cost" of the roof.
Cuz probably thats a feature of every photovoltaic system. And here he is just talking about Tesla's roof tiles
Yeah I agree - needs to weigh up swapping out the 2 family cars for electric. The maximum benefits to someone like me who pays out a fortune for oil heating throughout plus water heating - plus running the water pumps to move all the water for the underfloor heating.
@@WonPXL You must be in a higher latitude where solar is very non-viable.
@@protonneutron9046 Solar is viable at higher latitudes but not year round. With high energy costs in these areas, the ROI is more rapid. My daughter lives in Fairbanks, Alaska and I have noticed there are solar panels all over the place. 24 hour sun in the summer helps generate a lot of power.
@@thomasandriesen443 LMAO! VIABLE MEANS an economical replacement for base load generation. So, sing it, "Solar is NOT viable at higher latitudes."
loved this content, very well edited/organized. Has everything that I want and no filler. Clear cogent explanation.
except for telling you how much it will cost when you have to replace the underlying roof. Taking all of that off and then reinstalling is big money. And insurance will be higher.
My installation is scheduled for March, I'm glad to hear these positive reviews.
You checked your insurance rates? They will go up. Any idea how much it will cost when you have to get a new roof to take all of that off and reinstall it?
Would love to hear how your install went. Adopting early to new tech can be a risk but this seems like a bet worth taking. Hope it all goes well for you
We were approached by Tesla to install the roofs. We are a roofing company here in Southern California. There was not a high enough profit margin for the company to effectively install these roofs with the asking price of the current roof they offer. This video really doesnt go over what it costs and WHY we arent seeing more of these roofs if the demand was so high. There were also major logistical issues with the products as well, local material houses are not allowed to carry tesla products, this means the product must come directly from 1 of 2 plants tesla owns here in California. These panels are amazingly strong but not invulnerable and this roofing system also has a ton of wires. Critters / pests love wires and if u were to replace ANY part of the roof you must get the products from tesla which could take 3-6 weeks for simple wires or a panel or 2. Tesla also tell you, TELLS YOU the company installing what your profits are for the product, for us the profit was 150 dollars PER project. This makes us incur major financial risks along with a profit margin so small that we would literally go bankrupt installing these roofs. California insurances dont care how green your roof is, you must pay the massive insurance cost per job as roofing is a high risk occupation. This may not be everyones experience with tesla and this product, but this was ours. Im assuming that this product was discontinued due to these issues.
I placed an order here in MA back after a tree fell damaging my roof back in February and I’m awaiting install currently . Sounds like they still don’t have enough teams for install in New England but they stated they are ramping up.
I'm also on the list and waiting in MA. Buckets in the attic so install can't happen soon enough.
@@brucemcardle Just install a new roof + conventional solar already... your house will have fallen in before they are ready to service you, and they don't want to do old houses anyway, only new.
@@Wingnut353 wow you sound super dumb, and ignorant.
Same with MO.
@@epiccollision no, he's realistic about Tesla vaporware. They always over promise.
I usually don't comment on youtube videos, but I had to do it to thank you for this well prepared content, keep up the good work
I just got a tesla power roof in august and I love it. The installers were an old solar city crew they did a phenomenal job I didn't know it was so repairable thank you for sharing .
Hey Matt my Solar Roof install is finishing soon. If you want any insight on a Texas install, let me know!
Make a video review!
Hey! Can you do that for us? I live in Texas too and would like to know all the details about it.
I think the majority of the details will be pretty standard across the board just like what to expect from Tesla I'm regards to scheduling and parts delivery. But I think a big aspect is going to be the crews experience and the actual layout of the house. My roof has several odd pitches and is overall slightly steeper than most which I think added to the time required to complete the project.
Jordan, how did your install go? What are your energy savings? I also live in Texas and have need of a mew roof very soon. We definitely want to go solar.
@@lorrainenugent968 the process was long but once it was complete it's been great! It's been so cloudy in san antonio lately i haven't gotten great sun. But my high days so far have been 20-30kwh produced.. which is definitely going to be the lows of the year especially being winter. I feel like I'll have better production ideas after the summer. My 12.98kw system is supposed to produce in the neighborhood of 14kwh annually if i remember correctly
I’m a roofing contractor in Red Deer Alberta. I’d jump on board with installing these for sure.
Refreshing to hear members, from within the trades, continuing to stay curious and excited to grow!
You and Eric (roofing contractor in the video), are truly inspiring!
@@aaronwilson9763 roofers are interested in installing quality product, and not loosing money. We could care less about the debate over the practicality of solar. Design a quality roofing product and we will be there to install it.
Excellent video. That CFO was great, good honest insights. I need a whole new roof on a new home i bought, faces the s/sw, and with old trees and snow storms, the power goes out a lot...no brainer.
I'll be needing a re-roof in a couple years , hope the system and pricing keep improving!! Thanks for the video!
It's all about the underlay, don't cheap out on that, and you'll have redundancy.
@@jeremyO9F911O2 Haha yeah, when they quote you the cost estimate, you'll be laying under it crying.
I heard the 26% tax credit is being extended 2 more years.
A wonderful piece of information
Yep
I wouldn't be surprised if enhanced with new leadership coming in soon.
Doesn't the extension need congressional approval? As in the Senate...
Nvmd...I saw another post that said the credit got extended as part of the funding bill
This was a timely piece for me! In Florida, in a 5,000 sf home with 7,000 sf of tile roof area. Roof is 22 years old, we’ve spent around $30K over the years repair and redoing an initial poor installation. Time to replace... been watching the Tesla product develop for the last 5 years. And now I think its timing in development and our timing of having to replace the roof have come together. I’ve made the contacts with Tesla, have paid for the estimate, have been signed a project# but have yet to hear directly from them... Fortunately I’m patient... we have no current roof problems... This video has been a HUGE step forward in erasing a lot of concerns I had... now its down to Tesla executing... to be continued...😎
Great video as always. I have 30 older solar panels, installed 4 years ago. I love it and my lower power bill is awesome!
7:52 Exactly me whenever I want to show anything.
Fascinating - my son is installing a Tesla solar roof right now and
he sent me a link to a solar roof installation video. At this point, Tesla hit a home run in its product. It is cutting edge, looks like a shingled roof and will save money in the long run. As a financial executive, this is something I will consider in 10 years when I need a new roof. Very cool.
Would love to see this go mainstream, hopefully price for initial install comes down a little.
Aye, the 100% price increase in 4 years, kind of took the fascination out of owning one.
I am astonished that Asphalt Shingles are still used today. My roof in Ireland is on 22years and still as good as the time it was installed, also comes at a price point less than Asphalt Shingles.
Lightweight Fibre Cement.
Agreed. I’m betting it’s planned obsolescence. The industries in many countries probably don’t want something lasting multi-decade.
High-end Asphalt Shingles ("Architectural Shingles") last 24-30 years. Just Google "architectural asphalt shingles years"
Same. Here in Oz the defaults are a metal roof (low cost, quick to install, range of colours, very long lasting) or clay tiles (higher cost, longer to install, range of colours, variable lifetime).
@@prescod Hi, thanks for that , I did wonder . Although in Ireland Green Asphalt felt is used on flat roofing and some low pitched roofs, it comes in rolls , it's very messy , needs to be tar sealed at the seams and has a short life. Certainly it would not be used on a main house roof as the Fibre Cement Slates are well priced. 👍
I love the idea of a solar roof though.
@@TheOneWhoMightBe Is it the double sheeted cladding type roof sheeting??
Going through the 'application' now. Fascinating amount of questions and photos to submit. We'll see what they say about my existing electrical. 1953
I will get one sooner or later.
I have been thinking exactly the same, but even if I want it sooner looks like it will be later based on availability and backlog :(
I would LOVE to get a solar roof. When I have to replace my roof (which should be in the next 5-7 years) I'm 95% certain it will be a solar one. Thanks for the analysis.
I read somewhere that solar panels can lower your home value since some people find them ugly. This is what I think makes the solar roof so special. It actually looks good. I'd definitely consider one if I were a homeowner.
Every home I inspect with them the buyer wants to remove them.
As someone in the UK watching this I would love to build my own house and install something like this
For that few minutes of sunshine in UK :p
At 51-55 North, you need to run the numbers. Anything but a sloped roof to the S or SSE might not make sense. Even if your local politicians force your neighbors to pay half. (subsidies and feed-in rates)
contemporaryenergy.co.uk/insolation-map/
And with the UK's crumbling grid, over 25 years you can expect variable 15 minute pricing and forced curtailment.
@@Nonixification actually it's about 2 weeks every year lol
We live in the UK (the Midlands) and had solar panels installed over 10 years ago, they have generated plenty of electricity in the summer, even in the spring and autumn.
The incentive didn't go away. The Covid relief bill passed last week includes a bump up of the federal incentive back to 26%.
A two year extension, IIRC.
Nice! Didn't know the package included that
The thing about tax credits is they are generally offered for novel installations. Usually they can't scale to mainstream adoption. It's fine to subsidize solar when it's still in the proof of concept stage, but such technologies must be able to stand on their own when they enter the mainstream. See you're not really getting a break, you're just distributing the cost through taxation. When a product goes mainstream, and tons of people are buying it, tax breaks stop making sense as you're basically still paying that cost, just buy other avenues. Those other avenues then require their own administration, which ultimately makes solar more expensive on the larger scale, because you've added an unnecessary administration cost to all solar.
No alternative energy technology should depend on subsidies long term.
@@jeremyO9F911O2 I sort of agree with you as far as you went. But you left out the massive subsidies we give to the fossil fuel industry in allowing them to pollute but not pay for the harm caused by that pollution.
We are spending tens of billions of dollars per year on pollution caused health problems. If we spend some money now to get more renewable energy on our grids and more EVs on our roads we create long term health cost savings.
"The burning of fossil fuels contributes to four of the five leading causes of death in the United States, including heart disease, cancer, stroke, and lung diseases, while putting children at risk of asthma and delayed mental development [1]. All these missed work days, hospital visits, and deaths not only cause suffering, but they handicap our economy, increase insurance premiums, and contribute to an unsustainable growth in health care costs.
Coal plants alone cause more than 13,000 deaths each year in the United States [2]. According to the National Academy of Sciences, the burning of fossil fuels causes $120 billion annually in mostly health-related damages. [3]"
A decade of $120 billion in annual spending adds up to $1.2 trillion dollars. There's no need, as far as I can see, to spend as much as a trillion dollars subsidizing renewable energy but even if we did spend that much we'd get it back in ten years of lower pollution spending. And then we'd save another $1.2 trillion the next decade. Subsidizing renewable energy is a very good investment. It simply makes financial sense.
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Globally the economic and health costs of air pollution from burning fossil fuels totaled $2.9 trillion in 2018. Almost $3 trillion in a single year.
@@bobwallace9753 yes I anticipated your "what about" counter argument. The problem with your thinking is twofold. Firstly FF is the giant renewables must concur, as such it needs to be better than that giant. Fiscally I mean, subsidies/tax breaks are fine for jump starting the process, but as I explain at a certain point the subsidies for solar become redundant and fiscally counter productive.
See much of the subsidies in fossil fuels exist for two reasons, firstly they are there for energy assurance. Basically the country doesn't want to run out of energy, we do the same thing with food subsidies. Here really any form of energy can apply for subsidy as long as it's both abundant and reliable. Which FF basically are. Abundant and reliable has always been a challenge solar faces and that conversation is well treaded ground. Of course the other reason for FF subsidies is energy security, since solar doesn't need to depend on foreign oil wells, it's exempt from that need which is actually a vote it solar's favor. I'm not too researched on the supply chain but as far as I know the materials needed to build solar are fairly common and wouldn't depend on sourcing from conflict regions. Though America would need to dramatically increase its solar production and not depend on China so much as it's the current reality.
Like I say the "what about oil subsidies" argument isn't very useful, subsidies are still payed by taxes meaning the tax payer still pays. I'm not suggesting subsidies aren't appropriate in the proof of concept phase we are still in. Just that if it must depend on subsidies to exist long term then it must develop more.
Also just to put my cards on the table, I'm an energy realist. I'm not guided by political lines on energy, I'm outright anti-coal. But far less pessimistic on crude and natural gas, I'm all for replacing them wherever practical. I submit that commuter EV is a promising avenue to pursue, but I'm more pessimistic about that technology scaling to heavy transportation, and I have almost no faith that we will replace hydrocarbons with batteries in aircraft. Though there are carbon neutral synthetic fuels to consider.
But I refuse to play the "feel good" renewables game, where people love wind and solar because they don't have a smelly tailpipe. I think they have their place, but I also think that their advocates don't apply the same critical analysis as they do to other energy technology. To be honest the technology I prefer is neither FF or wide scale renewables, I'm all about nuclear. I feel that any discussion of alternative energy solutions that reject nuclear are irrational, ignorant, acinie, and ultimately doomed to failure.
One question I have, as a solar installer, is it worth covering the north-facing arrays in these tiles? We rarely ever install panels on the north side because it gets the least amount of sunlight out of all directions and most cases does not produce enough power to really cover the cost of putting them there in a decent amount of time.
Of course it would look odd, especially if the north side and another side are visible to the street. But it all depends on what kind of money customers would like to spend
Another question I have is a lot of power companies have a limit to how much solar you can install. In the state of MN, you are allowed up to 125% of your average power use. And when installing solar panels, they determine how many solar panels you can put on your roof. But sometimes homeowners use a lot of power, but have a small surface area on their roof, or Vice versa. I imagine they have modules of varying efficiency, but sometimes there’s the discrepancy of your roof being covered by a lower level module that only covers 115% or the next level which would be too much and make it 135% (just random numbers I’m pulling out). Do they just go with that 115% cause that’s the best they can do, can you talk to your power company and see if they’re willing to negotiate going a little bit over your limit? Or could these modules be custom made so you can get that 125% limit for the whole surface area?
You can always use a non-PV tile on the north side of the roof in the same style and color as the PV tiles. I'd say that it is not worth it cost wise to put PV tiles on the north side.
There's something they're not talking about here and that's the fact that each roof needs to be custom built instead of just building the panels and sending them. The roof will have to all be built at once and assembled as they get delivered. Meaning that the angles of the tiles, at the point of intersecting, will need to be cut prior to making the glass; as they are tempered. I mean they are being built but we'll end up going into an apple situation as well, where you can only get use their batteries. There are a few things they're omitting from this interview.
You raise an excellent point. As this technology develops I would expect home design to change and be informed by the knowledge the house will have a solar roof. I would think a company like the one in the video would be able to provide architects and home designers points to consider. I would think if designing and building a new home it would be possible to do it in a way to lower the installation cost. Just something as simple as making the dimensions of the roof a multiple of the installed dimension of the tiles.
Wonderful, honest, real-world insight! Thank you! So Glad I found your channel.
My current roof has about another 5 years to go, and I am very intrigued by the Tesla roof. Thanks for the info, you have a new subscriber, and I'm enjoying going through your catalog of past videos. My climate is very much like Boston, and it's good to hear how positive your solar experience has been.
I've kicked around the idea of doing solar for a long time this makes it even more tempting.
Tesla solar roof is a compromise between a good solar system and a good looking roof. You basically compromise solar efficiency for a cleaner look.
“When you look around the neighborhood in the future, decade from now, what do you want? What products are going to make your life better? What future do you want? And I think a future where we’ve got beautiful roofs generating energy that are tough and resilient and better in every way than a regular roof and alive with energy, that’s the future we want. Solar Roof is a killer product. This will become obvious next year.”
-- Elon Musk
Its solar efficiency is still low compared to a regular panel. Which means we can get more electricity by installing regular panels on a smaller area. In the end, it's all about cost savings isn't it? Tesla needs to improve on their tile solar efficiency
@@SF-li9kh but then you have to build and maintain two systems a roof and a solar panel system...and the price of both is the inefficiency
@@epiccollision Build and Maintain two roof systems? wtf are you talking about. I've had Solar panels on my roof 15 years. The only time i've touched my roof was replacing some silicone at the struct base of my antenna about 8 years ago, took me about 25 minutes and cost $5.00. gone through plenty of hail storms during that time and no damage was done to my roof or the panels. Even if it was my insurance protects from hail damage to both the roof and the panels.
As for maintaining the solar panel system a Ladder, a Hose with a pressure head and extension pole with a squeezy on it are all that's needed 2 times a year job done in under an hour.
Just be honest you just want this shit because it's shiny and new you haven't even looked at traditional roof top solar. Stop making shit up. There's nothing about roof top solar that's going to spiral costs upwards.
I call BS on that. 3M was way ahead of Tesla in the solar tile market and R&D way before Elon Musk stole... I mean thought of the idea, and they completely shut down the whole project for good reason; that being the technology isn't viable without a major advancement in solar technology. Standard solar panels are far more efficient and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
As someone who works for a company in SWFL that is also one of the vendors for Tesla, the roofs amazing. We’re installing them all over the state.
In mississippi, Tesla had 20,000 + orders for solar in one day this year.
Well they sell normal solar and the solar roof so make sure you are not mixing them together.
@@RasakBlood I think she means just solar panels
I find that hard to believe. You have a source that cites that number?
My main concern with it was repairability for when one of the electric components inevitably craps put. If that's as good as he says, then I see Tesla having no problem selling as many of these as they can make for several years. I don't see it becoming mainstream for quite some time though. People like to wait and see how they're holding up before sticking it on their house.
@@rogerstarkey5390 and its still very expensive and you have to pay for a very long time, why not simply invest in a giant solar farm installation project!
@@rogerstarkey5390 Is the warranty for full replacement of defective tiles at no charge or is it prorated?
@@carholic-sz3qv A solar farm installation won't do you much good if you need to replace a roof.
@@boostav solar farms are very easy to install and only require empty place in arid or desertic areas.
A 25 year warranty if Tesla is around for that long. Also I would also guess it’s a prorated warranty.
I live in Europe but lived most of my life in Canada. Most Europeans generally only use asphalt shingles for their sheds, as they look better and last much longer. I like the look of these roofs and could see them doing well here.
I needed to see this. I’m confident in my knowledge of the car manufacturing and demand but needed to understand how this is coming along.
Need to see this ramped up to complete housing developments, not just individual houses. Also the 25 year timeline is a bit worrying. A good slate roof will last 100 years with a bit of maintenance, that's what we need to see with glass.
Totally agree with you
ima be honest, most people aint living in a house for 100 years
@@MrSylvandragon True, but new buyers don't want their first act to be replacing the roof. The roof should be something you never worry about.
If it paid for itself in less than 10 years I would understand the cost but $50,000 plus is crazy
Wow this video was so well made, this was awesome and informative. I hadn’t checked in on the progress of Solar Roof until I watched this
I’m in the process of getting one installed now. Wait time was about 6 months. The limiting factor, in California, seems to be installers not materials.
More like nobody wants to deal with Tesla
Good roofers are in short supply.
Looks like a fantastic idea. I wonder how they would hold up during a hurricane (hit directly by 2 last year.) and how costly it would be to replace those damaged, IF you were able to get any. I have a 17.5kw generac that powers my whole home, ac included, for days (grid went out for 7 days first hurricane, 9 days the second) and my shingles stood up to both. My generator was $3,100, $400 for an automatic transfer switch. Cost of gas combined was $235. My homes brand new and small. Don’t see any advantages here.
This, Tesla Power Wall, and Tesla HVAC I hope to have in my next home.
Also a car charger
@@justaguy6216 And the car?
@@rollover36 Car is not part of the house, but yes also a EV
Add in StarLink and you can even have internet in remote areas. If they come up with water and sewage treatment then it will meet all the essentials for a home
@@AlexFlockhart Starlink is a bit sus, idk if international committees will allow the doubling of the number of satellites on low earth orbit.
Because if one of them breaks, it's gonna create a catastrophic cascase and create so much space junk that it'll be next to impossible to have future space flights.
Untill we figure out how to successfully capture space junk, I don't see star link happening tbh.
Seems like an ideal solution for new build homes particularly if the roof pitch and orientation can be optimized for maximum solar gain.
yeah but it's still more expensive than normal solar tiles.
I have never been a full-time roofer, but i think it would be awesome to be on the forefront of this.
Such a good point about the maintenance cost of having regular solar panels on a normal roof that isn't hail resistant
so that made me think..... Why the hell isn't regular tesla solar panels hail resistant?
@@letsnotmakethispersonal6021 All solar panels are hail resistant. I've had solar for 30 years and have never had a panel damaged by hail. Of course I don't live where hail can get as large as softballs. Some places have hail storms that smash the roofs of cars. Not many types of roofing would avoid damage in those conditions.
@@bobwallace9753 I mean why dont they make their regular solar panels out of the same material as the tiles.
@@letsnotmakethispersonal6021 Can't answer that. My first question would be whether that would cause an increase in panel cost that would drive up the cost of a Tesla solar panel package.
There's two markets here. Solar roofs, at least for now, are for more upscale houses. Houses where people are willing to pay for a more attractive roof than a simple asphalt shingle roof. Tesla really has no competition here and, based on info in this quite good video, Tesla is competitive with other upscale roofing methods.
Solar panels are for the retrofit market. People are looking for solar at the best possible price. Tesla seems to have figured out how to deliver very competitive solar packages via fixed size packages and not spending money finding customers. Right now Tesla needs to keep the cost of their installed solar packages as low as possible in order to create a lot of word of mouth advertising. Maybe it makes sense to let insurance companies worry about extreme hailstones,, hurricanes, and tornadoes rather than building a bulletproof panel and having to charge for that level of engineering.
@@letsnotmakethispersonal6021 It's because regular solar panels are specced for high efficiency, and these solar panels are worse than flex solar panels efficiency wise. Literally the only thing these panels have going for them is their looks.
One BIG advantage and not mentioned, contractors can literally replace every solar tile without removing a nail. Not having to seal, or miss sealing holes in the roof membrane probably extends the life of a whole roofing system.
They mentioned it. :)
Do you have to get an electrical permit/ building permit everytime you want to add one or more module. And do you need to get interconnection paperwork done ?
This makes me excited. I live in Dallas, so hail (sometimes huge) is totally a thing here and has been one of the things I was wondering about durability -wise. This is another market I believe Tesla will own moving forward. Too cool!
Since Tesla will be moving down there, maybe the prices will come down.
The roof has a redundant conventional underlay, if the underlay is installed properly then any failure of the Tesla roof will be ok as long as they can be remedied in a timely manner.
Gu1tarJohn, I also live in the Dallas area, I've had solar panels for 3 years now, and last spring we had some big hail, but absolutely no damage whatsoever to my solar panels.
The excitement will wane when you have to replace the underlying roof. Imagine what it would cost to take all of that off then reinstall. Or if you get a leak right in the middle of it.
@@ColoradoHiker it has an underlay, so basically a backup roof underneath. Apparently it's fully modular so you can replace leaking sections.
Very interesting video with a good interview. We need a roof soon, and if this tech proves robust, we'll definitely pursue it.
Thanks!
same, my asphalt roof is 16 years old now... holding up ok still but it's days are numbered, gonna start shopping in my area next year.
What would you do in areas that get heavy snow? How would you remove the snow so you could get power to the house?
Also, I live in hurricane alley. Would these be easily replaced when 130mph wind rips them off of my roof?
Now that looks good. I always thought that there's no solar panel that matches the roof so you can like just place it all over the roof
Really awesome video Matt.
Thanks for putting it together.
I'm out here in Australia and low key holding out on building my own home so that it can have a solar roof installed from the get go.
Hopefully Tesla can bring it down under within the next few years!
Years ago when I looked up solar panels it made me flip my wig that it wasn’t able to store energy yet.
That’s all we needed!
I like what he said. They have landed rockets vertically and resused them. They have a good track record of solving problems.
Tesla have launched ROCKETS?! There's me thinking it was a car company.
@@nagualdesign Silly. You know Elon is heading up all this incredible stuff.
@@nagualdesign Space X has launched. Elon heads both.
@@bobwallace9753 AFAIK it's a completely different set of people working for SpaceX and Tesla. Elon doesn't come up with every idea and every solution to a problem. He's just the CEO. Thomas Mueller is the brains behind SpaceX. Not sure if there's anyone in particular behind Tesla's solar roofing. Seems more of a team effort integrating existing technologies.
He said the "same guy behind this" not "they". Elon started SpaceX but of course there different companies
Do you know what the efficiency av the pv cells are per square meter?
Tesla claim ~21% efficiency of the panel but that efficiency is dimensionless so it will not change with area.
I think you are missing the point tho, the efficiency is a less important quantity than the overall power generation. It is more dependant on the geometry of the roof than simply the efficacy of the panel.
For the articulate roofer (I agree with JJI's coment): We live next to Puget Sound in the Seattle, Washington area. There are lots of Seagulls and Crows and they habitually drop clams or mussels, often with a golf ball to baseball-sized rock attached, onto our roof. It's like hailstones only less numerous and can't be any bigger than the bird can lift. Have you had any experience with this - objects dropped on the Tesla tiles? How well do they perform in resisting impacts?
This CFO was great. I have never heard a 'tradie' make this much sense.
Yep I'm chomping at this bit for this and the powerwall, that's hard to get in Canada. :(
I'm curious if there's a grading limit on the installation. Just bought a house with a steep Victorian roof, including a tower. The current asphalt will need replacing in a couple years, and we'd really like to do solar.
Awesome to hear from an actual roofer installing them. I have 10 years left on my roof and I'm honestly thinking about saving the extra money to install a Tesla solar roof if It can last 20+ years. If you also spend the money and do what Germany is doing with their home heating designs solar roofs make a lot of sense and can save a lot of money on home heating/cooling and electric energy use.
Tesla raised prices. Quoted me 100k for a 1500sqft roof!
I have a Tesla v3 solar roof. Very impressive, it looks amazing and even with 3 powerwalls was a better value than a steel or slate roof.
In what part of the country do you reside? Have you had it long enough to see how much yield you'll average per month? Thanks!
That's nonsense.... a Telsa roof is 4x the price per square foot compared to a top quality standing seam roof. With the money left over you could buy mount an equivalent solar system and batteries. And all you got was a roof with solar and no batteries. Basically a 40k Tesla roof with a regular metal roof would only cost about $10k, and a conventional solar system would only cost about 10-15k + another 10k for batteries.
@@Wingnut353 you left out the price of the ROOF!!! You can get a standing seam metal roof for 10k??!!,
You cannot even do an asphalt roof for $10k any more. I just had a modest one done on a ranch home in October and it was $15k. Top end materials, but still....
@@bcoldwell1, I just had my 1000 Sq Ft home roof done for $5000 using Owens Corning 30 year architectural shingles, including stripping to the bare deck, new felt paper, new roof vents and new plumbing vent seals. Including hauling away old materials to the landfill.
These high quotes people are giving for the asphalt roofs are not what it actually cost if you shop around. The Tesla roof, if available, would be $86,000 with 4.4 kw of solar. Ridiculous.
One thing you didn't mention, the non-Tesla roofs reflect the suns energy back up into the atmosphere. One or two houses wouldn't be a problem but if you had a whole neighborhood of reflecting solar panels there is an increase chance of changing weather conditions. Since Tesla's panels are satin, they won't reflect as much of the sun's energy. Another selling point. Nice report. Thanks.
I would love to have one just need to figure out how to get it since I’m a Nigerian 🇳🇬 and lives here but love to install this in my own house 🏡 once I can figure out how to get it
Plenty of UV there, and you may be able to source certain components of the system much cheaper there versus higher prices in US. Good luck!
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Our dream roof has always been to get a metal roof and then traditional solar panels with a battery storage system. The Tesla roof looks like an intriguing option.
One question though is metal roofs are known to be quite a bit more energy efficient compared to asphalt shingles due to the amount of heat they reflect during the summer and insulation it provides during winter. Do you know how the Tesla roof compares with a metal roof as far as energy efficiency regarding your A/C and heating costs?
Glass is a good insulator, so should be almost or as good as a metal roof. Solar panels on top of a metal roof would have a bit of shading on those sections with a small air gap so may be a bit better in terms of reducing heat absorption during the summer?
If Musk wants his solar roofs to go mainstream, he's going about it the wrong way. 4 years ago my roof was quoted at $56,000 installed with a lifetime warranty. Today it's $100,000 and only a 25 year warranty. Usually when a product goes mainstream the price goes down, not up.
Yup they also quoted me 100k. Hard no!
your videos get me excited for the future
Thank You Matt, I really appreciate you doing an in-depth video on this product. To this point we’ve only seen finished installations as opposed to the up close detail of the product itself and how it’s installed. My home needs a new roof, but I live Wisconsin. I really want Tesla solar of some kind. Do you know if there is a Map that shows the states where Tesla solar products are available?
If you go to the Tesla website they have an informative calculator. You can enter roof size and normal electric usage and it will give you a price. As for installation area when I did it for our house (mountains of northern Colorado) was told no installers in our area, and would be notified when installation is available. When I changed our address to the nearest population area (Fort Collins) it shows installation available. So I think they are getting closer on the installation, just a matter of demand and enough people where you are to be worth it.
I’m in MA and have been wanting solar, but never liked the existing solutions. I’m super tempted by the solar tiles. My home is 15 years old, so the roof, technically, is coming due for replacement in the next 5 to 10 - so I think I’m going to wait until then, and go with these Tiles.
Very nice video! The maintenance, durability, and replacement have always been my biggest questions on Tesla’s solar roof. Some of that was touched on in here.
Can you cover the new water heater system from Tesla? Thank you!
Live in California and my home is in need of a new roof. The cost is crazy high but I plan to get several quotes and go with the middle quote. A side note is we purchased a Tesla model 3 last month. The purchase did not go smooth. Car came with flaws that the advisor refused to write up. She advised we go into the app and request a service appointment. The car was not washed and had the whole pickup experience seems rushed (the push to sell more cars). The roof will cost more than a model 3 so we're hesitant to consider Tesla. Great video and your work is stellar as usual. I would definitely consider Weddle and Sons if they were out here. Customer service and good companies are hard to find in this day and age.
This requires analysis of the electricity savings and increased interest paid for a Tesla solar roof versus other options.
Yes cost benefit analysis would be a must when deciding roofing expenses, but the video does say that on whatever size roof they determined a standard asphalt shingle would be 42k and the Tesla solar roof would be 56k. It also states you'd be expected to replace the Asphalt roof at least once over the lifetime of the solar roof meaning over the course of 25 year life cycle you spend at least 84k on the Asphalt option and 56k on the solar roof option. I highly doubt you'd be staring down 30k in additional costs on the solar roof, but if you were then I would consider going all electric so that your utility bill savings would offset that in it's own. Just some quick math here can show that, my average utility bill is 200 per month let's say I could completely 0 that with a solar roof and switch to all electric. That would make my annual savings 2400, over the course of a 25 years that would save me 60k. Now obviously you won't completely 0 your bill, but that was an easy way to do the math.
@@joshuatayloe8616 If you are paying over 40k for a shitty shingle roof you are being HUGELY ripped off. Here in Australia a standard long run steel roof will run you maybe 20k. 10k for a nice solar setup on top of that. I dread to think what a Tesla roof will cost here but I expect it would be easily 70-80k.
@@joshuatayloe8616 I computed that install of standard shingle would cost 42k USD on a roof of a house in the at least 15000 sqft range. If your house is a bungalow that is 15000 sq ft I doubt that you care about cost - analysis. Tesla roof is cool and you get it or not cool and get something else.
@@Shrouded_reaper These are "green guys" they inflate price of a shingle roof by factor of 10x to make it look cool. No one question them as iSheep never worked with their hands in entire life so have no idea how much stuff costs.
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3:40 Actually, that's ANisotropic, and isotropic. That is, the reverse.
Came here to find this comment
So Isotropic means that the properties of the material depend on the direction of the material?
@@BillGates_Alex No, isotropic means the properties DO NOT depend on the direction. The quote is "isotropic, meaning it can look purple from one direction and green from another." That doesn't sound right at all to me.
Thank you! Should I short the company now if there senior director doesn’t know the difference🤔 prolly not!🥳
@@BillGates_Alex iso-x means constant/equal. Isobaric means constant pressure, for example.
Excellent information and analysis. Thank you for this. We currently have 43 traditional solar panels on our home. Perhaps the next roof will be one like what is being shown here.
Just need them to install in Tennessee and I'm in.
Start a new business installing them in Tennessee!
@@davidbeppler3032 I have considered it. But we all know our gifts, and that would not be mine. 😁
@@JeffPalk The big need right now is a company installing home charging stations in apartment buildings using existing AC unit breakers. So each apartment is paying for it's own vehicle charging. Multi billion dollar business right there.
Shoot, I’d be down
It looks like there's a gap from the panels to the roof. I wonder if this also means better heat insulation for the roof.
Any separation that allows airflow will.
Solar panels produce less power the warmer they get so airflow is a good thing for them too.
Matt you really are providing a great service to your followers! Thanks!! I have been anxiously waiting to see if Tesla could go mainstream with their solar shingles and this really sealed it for me. I have been building homes for 40+ years 21 of which I have mainly moved into helping homeowners maintain their homes so maintenance is my focus and this interview highlighted that.
Thanks again!!!