things that frustrate me abt the study community 🍵
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- im ready for the hate comments lmao but these are just some things that really frustrate me about the study community. i ended up cutting out some of the more petty stuff and kept it to four main points to discuss. let me know your thoughts on these points and if you have any other frustrations about the study community!
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0:00 - start
0:21 - intro
1:06 - the illusion of 24/7 productivity
3:17 - consumerism
6:13 - educational elitism
9:06 - dark academia
13:16 - my own accountability & conclusion
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some ppl have been commenting that dark academia is an aesthetic based off of europe and therefore should be european in nature. some people have also commented that “light academia” or “grey academia” is more inclusive than “dark academia.” rather than responding to multiple comments with the same opinion, here’s my reply.
to the first point: my main issue with eurocentrism is that it pins certain european cultures as being more elite, more aesthetic, more intellectual, etc, and it doesn’t offer enough space for other cultures - even within europe - who also have a wealth of knowledge and art and culture to offer. the hyper-focus on greek/roman, french, british, and italian culture leaves out other cultures. where are the posts about polish, hungarian, estonian, and finnish culture? those are all european cultures, but they’re not highlighted as often. for an aesthetic that prides itself on the love of learning and academia, it would be incredibly remiss to not include the famous thinkers, artists, and writers from other cultures. (and not just from europe lmao)
also, not everyone in europe is pale, thin, and wealthy. europe is a diverse place, and people of color live in europe as well. inclusivity - whether it be body shape, ethnicity, sexuality, socioeconomic background, etc - should be welcomed. if you’re denying the advancement of inclusivity and diversity within the aesthetic, ask yourself why that does not fit with your sense of aesthetic. that’ll probably give you a more telling answer.
finally, i personally think that any academic aesthetic, whether that be dark or light or grey or the original studyblr, has a lot of fundamental issues underlying the aesthetic such as classism, lack of inclusivity, lack of discussion around mental health, etc. a lot of this stems back to the way our education systems and our society is formed and how we treat other people, and it’s an institutional problem that reflects back on the aesthetic as a whole. that doesn’t mean i condemn the different aesthetics. instead, i bring these points up in an effort to combat that and to make positive, inclusive changes within our community.
i truly appreciate and love the discussion going on in the comments right now, and i hope that together, we can move forward in a positive manner. sending much love 💕
I'm italian and I've always noticed this. Here's my italian point of view.
People really think that Italy is "culturally aesthetic" and "intellectual", but really, Italy is a mess! The culture is great but it has NOTHING to do with dark academia. Italy has the worst scholastic system ever, an extremely low quality of education, and I'm pretty sure dark academia doesn't apply to Italy at all. I've always thought about it as a more British thing (which isn't even in the european union now lol).
So what I mean is that people have an idealized image of Italy and italian education for some reason. Probably for its past but people think it's like this now as well.
Those famous italians writers or artists are mostly self-taught and are just really talented people. Schools and colleges have nothing to do with it (unless they met the, extremely rare, actually good teacher/professor.)
I don't know much about dark academia, but it just feels british or or american to me. Italy is the opposite.
I agree with every single point you make, and I'm so grateful you bring this all up. I hope that people take inspiration from your video and instead of doubling down and justifying the problems with dark academia, they try to help it grow. There will always be people halting progress and I think, unfortunately, many of the themes of dark academia encourage elitism and classism.
I don't think who I am should validate my point, but I'd like to include that as a person who checks off many "minority" tickboxes, as well as a latina living in Europe, I've always believed in fighting for, and making space for my people in the places where we don't have space. I understand not everyone has the energy to do so, and there are so many battles to fight that this may not be "a hill" that someone "chooses to die on", but I hope people support your message. I don't have the energy to take on any of the academia aesthetics, (personally a fan of fairy and romantic academia) but I hope my taking part, and creating safe spaces and content as a minority will organically help in its own way.
Thank you as always for your videos, and for having the integrity to take on these harsh truths about the study community! 💖
I kinda disagree. Dark Academia doesn't exclude Finnish, Arabic authors etc. But the aesthetic is around the "elitist" (but not necessarily wealthy), British old school look and Classics (which means ancient Greek and Roman). Because in England, "sophisticated" humanities are traditionally ancient Greek and Roman. Also in Europe in general, ancient greek and roman, as well as the local classics are what is taught in school. That's where the aesthetic comes from. The culture around it turned into "eager to learn" and so on. Which means eager to learn about ANY literature. It doesn´t exclude other literature works. People just take the tradtional route when they make boards for instagram and tumblr.
Also, the dark academia style looks like what we like to picture scholars of European literature. As interesting and important as arabic and chinese literature is, an old, "tradionally clothed" and sophisticated Chinese or Arabic person barely wears tweet and cord. That literature however is still what dark academia enthusiasts learn (and should learn) about.
excuse my english, it´s not my native language.
If there was a 'love' react instead of a thumbs up, I would click it in a heartbeat for this comment and insight but for now, a like will have to do.
@@silver5962 i saw a lot of dark academia posts and moodboards involving italian art and art history, which is why i included italian in my list of cultures!
no, karen, i didnt lack discipline. i lacked:
1. mental health
2. MENTAL HEALTH
3. _MENTAL. HEALTH._
My mental health is shit now
Ever since I started over studying and overworking myself years ago, I literally am so anxious about my grades and what I'm going to do in the future, I have panic attacks regularly and yeah, my mental health sucks....
@@tatacherry7268 Hi ! I wanted to share something to you because this was me a year back . I was so much into study tube and study gram almost 2 years back. I would search for videos of studying 12 hrs a day. I had been that A * student all my life so I always placed my worth on my grades . It slowly started affecting my mental health so much and I keep on telling myself that I was just lacking discipline which is definitely told a lot in study community and motivational speakers on social media.I fell for it . I would only take 5 min breaks which included pee and water break . I developed Generalized Anxiety Disorder and my life started getting worse. Thankfully and it really took a lot of time for me to get help and it did get better after getting professional help. The thing was that I still hadn't learnt that all these study videos and studying all time was the reason behind it along with other factors. I even passed my high school with A* grade so I thought it was helping but again I started putting study before my health because I would see studytubers studying so many hours even though they were sick . I was preparing for a competitive exam a year back and the environment is just so toxic and competitive here. Teachers will tell you how if you sleep for more than 7 hrs you'll never get into uni. You would be shamed because another student doesn't get out of house because he's busy studying, doesn't go on family function, doesn't even see sunlight, never go out with friends but you do. So, now you don't deserve a place and you're an idiot. I didn't get into uni and I took gap year but damn I still listened to them . I stopped living and being happy because that's what makes you an eligible student for the exam . If I studied for less than 7 hrs any day , I would stress about it for a week and couldn't study . Then I fell into depression and caught covid , everything got worse. I lost months because I wasn't okay but I still hated myself because I was not studying. The worse that could happen happened and now I'm healing. Even though my exams are very soon and few friends keep on talking how I am not studying enough. I just remind myself to be proud because i'm breathing and alive , I already won today . If something asks me to give up my health and life , I am never going to do that again
@@samisjournal2725 this is like my story and oh my goodness, I hope you really take care of yourself! This quarantine I've been more self caring and even more social. I think quarantine was a chance for me to improve my mental health and focus on me for a bit, so I started focusing on myself a bit more by socializing more ( I never knew that talking to people even texting them was fun! )and making different deserts and even knitting. So I urge you to take this time to focus more on yourself, not to much to make yourself tired but enough to make you happy and feel more alive. Grades don't define you but the way you respond to situation in life kinda does. So try and put a few minutes or a hour even into doing some fun things, maybe journalling, writing your thoughts down, dancing, reading, going outside or taking a fresh breathe of air. Yes, you should study but take a few hours for yourself too, don't be like me, I lost my childhood because of studying and I regret it, I've been through so much pressure that it broke me and although I do have anxiety like you do, I'm not afraid to enjoy life anymore. I suggest to take longer breaks and also have fun studying, try and make it fun for yourself, don't isolate yourself in a room everyday, try and study at the library maybe or even a quiet place in a garden. Eat healthy and make the most of life, try to enjoy every happy moment, even if you know there are sad or bad moments in life. You're life is yours to spend wisely, it's not your parents, it's not your grades and it surely isn't your teachers either! You are strong and powerful, I believe that you can find the things that make you happy and healthy! Your such an amazing person for going through everything that has happened to you, you're strong! Please please don't judge yourself, you're not perfect because you are not meant to be perfect, everyone has mistakes but it's important for us to learn from them. I believe in you🥺💜, I wish I could've said these to my past self but since I can't go back, I tell this to my present self and now I wanna say it to you cause I know you're going through really tough time, so please take care, ok? 💕
@@tatacherry7268 thank you so much 🥺Take care of yourself too ❤️ sending love ❤️🦋✨
One of my friends once said "dark academia is just for people who never really got over not getting a Hogwarts letter" and I've never thought about it the same way since
they're right lmao
lol so true
o.O
Hmm I don't think so because usually the dark academia book recommanded has nothing to do with it.
Yh This is indeed a good point. Most of the darkacademia trend promoters are potterheads
yes!! i hate the weird obsession with being productive all the time as if being productive is what gives us worth :
SAME.
It all comes from capitalism babey!!
You concluded it. I got this in my brain now. I'll respond to anyone who thinks over productivity is great
All my worries sumed up
The mindset of being productive all the time is hard to get out of when you have parents that think of it that way. I had it so ingrained that I get confusing feelings whenever I felt lazy or wanted to take breaks.
YES ON ELITE COLLEGES! I feel so stupid for going to a community college and it ended up being hard for me. But it was the best for me. Nobody should feel stupid for going to community college or any school. Its so stupid.
Community college is seriously great though. I did AP + dual credit classes, which involved going to a community college while in high school, and then 2 more courses in the summer between my university semesters. This saved me a ton of time & money!
just going to college is already a privilege here where I live... I'm proud of you and I'm sure you did your best!!! be proud!!!
i'm super proud and happy for you!!! never feel ashamed about pursuing an education!!!
@@tbhstudying a reply from seo ?? im dreaming aren’t i???
honestly thank you all. i appreciate the support ❤️❤️
To me, the degree is the same regardless of how you get there!! ❤️🙌🏼
I can safely say that my old notebooks and mechanical pencils give me good grades
S. S.G Same! Until my pencil case got stolen.
No, I am not kidding, my pencil case did get stolen. Honestly, it’s made me cry as not only most of my pens are stuff I have used for years, but they also have a lot of sentimental value attached!
Ikr, I did most of my hand written school work on loose leaf paper that I bought from my local newsagency and a pack of BIC pens.
@@layla-talmedina5733 ah it reminds me of years ago when i lost my favourite mechanical pencil. I searched it for almost an hour and was nearly cried because i love it dearly. And it was only one pencil, I can't imagine losing a whole pencil case
And my pilot g 2 o 7 pen works fine, it might smudge when u rub it, but it has a nice feel, I also hate pencils unless I am drawing
that tweet absolutely OUTRAGED me. my parents are essential workers and both had covid at one point, and it was terrifying knowing that the only thing separating my family and this virus was a WALL. the sheer amount of privilege you must have to not even consider the fact that some people are literally paralysed with fear (or, y'know are ACTUALLY sick and bedridden) just makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
I hope your family get well soon :D
@@toriazheng3598 thank you, i hope so too :)
wishing you and your loved ones a safe and happy and healthy holidays 🥺🥺🥺 i totally get the sentiment; my parents are essential workers too, and my sister is a healthcare worker. it's been terrifying for everyone :( truly sending you all the best wishes i possibly can!!!
@@tbhstudying thank you for the kind message, sending my best wishes to you and your family too :)
I’m gonna rant for a sec but first I hope you family gets well soon and have a great 2021. Alright here is the rant. FREAKING PRIVILEGED PEOPLE RUIN EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE! They never consider how other people are doing or whats going on with them. I’m someone who doesnt have many supplies at home because at home we have to save up money to get a house in our budget. It annoys the sh*t out of me when people who get everything they want think that everyone can do everything. People have health issues that prevent them from stuff. Ex: I have asthma so its difficult for me to do sports. Its freaking hard to do everything. I love writing pretty notes cuz I find it nice but the fact that people think its bad to not always be not productive gives me press that i shouldnt have. I feel like I’m lazy cuz im not doing anything. Anyways I hope your family is well
the eurocentrism in dark academia is something i never realized but that's a great point
@@kenechiachusiogu1717 It makes me so sad :'(
I've enjoyed the aesthetic for a while now, but petty much the philosophy of it
Like self discovery and persuit of knowledge
I didn't even notice how it excluded so much since I never closed myself to only some authors and stuff
I’ve found some dark academia Instagram accounts and TH-cam videos that have diversity in races and body types, which makes me happy. There’s also “grey academia”, which is purposely more diverse and inclusive of everyone.
Well the Gothic and Victorian aesthetics, which look present in Dark Academia, are Western and didn't spread to other parts of the world much, so I don't see the problem with it.
@@asmozinho i love studying philosophy, european history, humanities, classical music, ballet, old english, etc. but thats the only way in which i relate to academia core. the colors are so boring and wouldnt work on my skin imo (im black)
the study community makes a huge point about how breaks are essential yet they are the same people spewing toxic advice that damages people’s views of their productivity and negatively affects their mental health. your worth isn’t determined by how many hours a day you study or how many dollars you spend on stationery! everybody is different and have different study methods that suit them. someone having neat notes doesn’t guarantee they’re better than you or smarter and this mindset is what prevents people from truly reaching their potential as they are obstructed by a constant cloud of doubt and worry that they aren’t doing enough. burning yourselves out is never healthy, and the rise in study tubers likely correlated with the prominence of this. you should be doing a max of 5-6 hours of studying weekly, maybe more if you’re in college, but you shouldn’t overdo it! remember to just do what suits your unique skills and that your mental health needs to be good for your studying to be good. i believe in you
i think your points are great but what do you mean 5-6 hours a week i get at least 2 hours of homework daily and i'm in middle school what
@@michelle-in4ve i think they meant for highschool when you get a lot of homework and lot of unkown topics at once and then college when it is a nightmare lol
How many days did it take for u to type this
anyways you are 100% right
@@michelle-in4ve key word: should be. this isnt a pity party dude. theyre trying to state something.
5-6 hrs of studying weekly? Bruh we do 9-10 hrs of study a day and if we don't then we are fvked up! You are right but no one's gonna anything and students will always be under pressure and struggling with mental health because of that, cause that's what they expect from us!
"You aren't lacking the time, you're lacking discipline" no Karen I'm lacking the mental health but ok
(also ever heard of school?? online school only gives me 30 min more free time a day because I don't have to travel so idk in what time I'd have to develop a new skill or whatever but eh-)
online school gives me, not joking, 4/3 more hours but, while very useful and a miracle for my time management, I still couldn't develop any new skill... and it was not a lack of discipline it was more like "finally I have more time to rest and sleep"
@@heyits_Marlo You described my life during these last 5 months lmaoooo
@@strawtifulbonnie9363 well, good you're not alone right? 😂
@JustMe- Sakshi 🙋♀️
Doesn't that count as "more knowledge"?
I hate the toxic productivity thing too ugh. It needs to stop
capitalism smh
True
the idea of "productivity" in general is a result of capitalism, the need to produce things (as in a factory) constantly instead of just existing as humans. education under capitalism isnt so much about learning and more about achieving.
Bro I- 🍵🍵🍵
@Hulda's Journey •, it's good to be productive, but who wants to live in constant stress? Endless deadlines, a bunch of projects, tasks. At the same time, no one personally cares about you, but only about your "efficiency". It seems to me that this is just a disrespectful attitude towards yourself and other people, if this is not a work/business relationship, of course. (Sorry if I misspelled something, English is my second language)
@Hulda's Journey • tw // mentions of suicide
there are a lot of problems surrounding it. you would see plenty of headlines of students committing suicide because the education system under capitalism is just bad. considering there are a lot of factors aside from that which contribute to the worsening of mental health (ofc, mental health is not a one-sized fits all). i bear no ill-intent with your opinion but we should not judge people who have a different approach about the "meaning" of life. how i define a "successful" life may be different to yours and to others. capitalism just feeds you the idea that you should be like this, like that, etc. (forcing you into a box which is just according to their standards) without actually caring for your well-being. it's okay to just exist. it's okay to just live a simple life. however, due to how capitalism controls the corrupted system of our world, it is much more difficult to do so. i hope this helps. discussions like this should be widespread because it is time to question how systems work. the pandemic just worsened it all lol
IMO tis all about balance
the fact that this is one of the first things u learn in business studies is kind of sad
as someone who lives in a "third world" country, because apparently they call it developing (not really bcos we are exploited), those study and productivity tips do not work for us. imagine trying to push yourself to be productive with the cost of your sanity, as well as living in a shithole of a country? idk. there are even popular vloggers who romanticize sacrificing your well-being just to do well in school. they tend to forget that people have different circumstances. i mean, yeah, you can't really filter out every single one of your content, but they are making content for studying. it's important to realize that not all of us are under efficient education system. i think it's important to REALLY consider their audiences bcos some of the content are coming of as tone-deaf. i know that they are just giving out tips but it's important to think about what really matters the most.
THIS
This tbh. Here you simply don't have the time and the money. Most people don't take up jobs during studying and have to be involved at home, in many cases which can take up a lot of time and even have mental impact.
Study hard is the only thing we can do for escaping the country
@@deekshasharma2833 i agree. here in our country, it's really difficult to have a part-time job. most of the time, you really have to choose between studying and your part-time job. i have friends who decided to work first just to earn money for their schooling. i really hate the unfairness of it all. education shouldn't be that difficult to achieve, yet it is really a privilege. so when i encounter vloggers who encourage students to take up part-time job bcos apparently, it is "manageable" for them. well ig idk we really do not lack "discipline" because we are already pre-occupied with other responsibilities :/
@@kedemesmonroe5888 i agree. escaping our shit-hole of a country also requires other privileges that even if we study hard, it's not enough. and it really sucks. sIGH
Dark academia aesthetic doesn't really work in tropical countries.
right like i could never wear those outfits id die of heatstroke
It doesn’t need to. It’s an aesthetic
@@cravingfornostalgia i also live in the caribbean, anyone seen dressing like that would be considered an outcast cause it really doesnt match my island’s “aesthetic”🥲
true that 🙃
but i'm willing to make it work with crisp half-sleeved shirts and high ponytails :)
You spilled!! I got an iPad bc I wanted to be more organized, and it worked for me, but some studygrammers change iPads as soon as they came out, something I find really stupid
omg i just wanted to say i heavily agree with you in that!!!
I agree too
Yes 😐
i can barely even change my phone without my hands shaking lmao i can't imagine changing my ipad
That! I have an iPad but it's because I'm a graphic design student and I need to be able to draw on the go because my commute is so long. I don't understand why you'd get a new device when the one you have already fits your needs perfectly. Especially when those people got an iPad partially for environmental reasons. Purchasing a new iPad each year when there's nothing wrong with you're current one is not environmentally friendly or sustainable.
Most of the justifications for getting a single iPad in the first place aren't really reasonable when you think about it either. If it's about saving paper and not having to carry lots of books to class you can always just take notes on your laptop by typing. Yes handwriting is better for memory but is the memory gap between the two so big that you need to write notes on an iPad? The gap can also be closed by better studying techniques and habits. At the very least if you go the iPad route you definitely don't need an iPad Pro for note-taking. All current iPad models work with an Apple Pencil.
If you need a new device for school or university and don't have a laptop or computer that works well or meets your needs there are windows laptops that work with styluses and work as 2 in 1s and those will do a hell of a lot more than an iPad plus you won't need to by a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to use with them.
"another thing i hate is the... actually, just society in general"
words
I feel like discipline shouldn’t apply only to studying or working hard in itself - it should also be considered as to know WHAT your limits are and WHEN you know you should take a break - self care and work go hand in hand. They aren’t separate from each other
How do I print this onto a shirt
The lesson I've learned the hard way this year!!!! Perfectly said! Discipline is knowing when you need to rest!! Trying to be productive during burnout is the most unproductive thing you could ever do
@@AmandaFreitas1998 exactly! I totally agree and taking breaks /self care was not talked about back when I was in my teens so I learned the hard way, by burning out and realizing I couldn't keep pushing myself like that. At least mental health and self care (that term did not even exist in my teens) are talked about now!
the 24/7 productivity thing has been incredibly damaging to me. i’m chronically ill and struggle a lot with simple tasks, even getting up to get food or a drink drains me. being productive looks different for everyone. the height of productivity for me is being able to take a shower and still be able to function for the rest of the day.
i’m typically very late on turning in my assignments because i often don’t have the energy or cognitive function to do them. i maybe get 4 or so days a month where i have the energy to sit down and get caught up on work.
we don’t all have the same 24 hours and a productive day for me might seem extremely unproductive to others. shaming people for not being able to achieve what you see as productive is extremely classist and ableist and can damage the mental health of others and make them feel guilty for not being able to be the stereotypical studyblr definition of productivity.
i feel you 🥺 i struggled a lot with a loss of mobility after some health issues this past year, and my view on my own productivity has been drastically changed. now, it's a victory if i'm able to get up and brush my teeth. getting up is a really big deal! sending you all the best wishes in the world and hope you're feeling alright today!!! 🥺💕
Omg I'm so happy to see someone else mention this in the comments! I'm also dealing with chronic illness and I know exactly what it's like to literally have it be a miracle if I can have a shower and do other things in the day too!
So the whole "we all have the same 24hrs" thing is really a horrible and insensitive thing, I'm glad to see people pissed off by it and disagreeing with it!
@@tbhstudying it's very perspective changing isn't it, when you've had something happen that affects your ability to physically do things.
At age 18 I had an injury to both my hands and wrists and I'll never forget how amazing it was when 6 months later I could finally brush my teeth on my own without help!!!
Things like that really put things in perspective about what's important and I feel like the person who wrote that ignorant tweet about we all have the same 24 hrs should experience even one day of living with a disability to see what it's like! Maybe then they wouldn't be so quick to judge!
BTW, I'm new to this whole study community and you are the only study channel I watch so far, so happy to see you speaking out on these important issues!!!
Human cultures often glorify materialism. The study community online is just one of the examples.
i'm ngl i absolutely hate the way how the studyblr community (and by extension, a lot of society) will base your value as a person off of your productivity--glorifying a workaholic mindset/lifestyle that can be toxic and unhealthy. it's frustrating, especially for me personally having had a few health complications DIRECTLY RELATED to overworking myself. i was "productive," sure--but at what cost? it's as you said--people each have 24 hours in a day, but one's experiences are Not Universal. i've always found it funny how people have preached that it's important to take breaks, but at the same time, say or promote contradictory advice that only hurts yourself in the long run. tldr thank you for making this video:')
Sounds simple but the day I realized it all related back to capitalism, everything made sense.
@@KazKindred613 yeah that makes a ton of sense!
Same here, I'm dealing with health issues in part related to overworking myself and I find doing that is glorified and have you ever noticed how people always ask you "so what do you do for a living/what's your career" pretty much right away when you meet someone new. That's such a huge focus it can feel like that's your worth! I had to examine my feelings on that pretty heavily when I got sick and didn't have an easy answer to that question anymore.
You know... Being a non traditional student myself (I'm 31 and have 2 kids) I managed to enter med school in my country, and so far I've received the love of my schoolmates, but also hate from people of other majors, they've called me "dinosaur" and that I don't fit in... But then I saw your video, and it gave me such a heads-up, it reminded me that I'm doing this for my daughters and for myself. Never let people stop you from pursuing your dreams, believe in your capacities and above all, remember YOU'RE HUMAN and you're allowed to fail :)
Lots of love to everyone ♥️
ik it might not mean a lot coming from a 20 year old but truly!!! i admire you SO so much for your hard work and efforts! congratulations on entering medical school, and i'm wishing you all the best with your studies! hope you and your loved ones have a safe and happy holiday 💕💕💕
@@tbhstudying Please don't Say that!! Your words actually mean so much to me, thank you so much for your kindness, I really admire you as well, and I wish you happy and safe holidays for you and your loved ones, and I wish for you to success and happiness in every single thing in your life ♥️♥️♥️
Wow this might seem off coming from a girl in 7th grade but its really amazing that you got into med school. Thats such a great achievement for you. And the fact that your doing it for your family and not yourself is amazing and very inspirational. One of my personal dreams is to become a mother because ik that once you becoming one you have an eternal love for your children that will never die out and I want to experience that. I want to experience how it feels to here your child say I love you for the first time.
@@jessicado2362 thank you so much for your beautiful words. And you're right, when you're a mom, the first "I love you" coming from your child, is a whole another level of overwhelming love that starts running through you. But even if you end up don't becoming a mother, I'm sure you'll be a great and successful person because your heart is good. I wish you the best for the future dear 💜💜💜
I’m also 31 and just returned to school in the fall 2020 semester. Best decision I’ve ever made. I’m happy I waited, because I don’t think I would have been happy with whatever major I would have chose straight out of high school, and I’m grateful for my life experiences in the time between high school and returning to college.
My dad returned to school in his late 40’s, and he set a great example for me that’s it’s never too late, and you’re doing the same for your daughters. Congrats on your decision!
Someone had to say it, and thank you for being brave enough to! As the studyblr community expands and continues to expand, more and more younger people become exposed to it and become more exposed to these harmful trends and we really need to talk about it. There are so many 12 year olds running studygrams and buying ridiculous amounts of expensive stationery and as a community we really have to think about how what we portray on the internet can affect the literal children seeing it.
yeah, i think i've definitely been noticing it way more this past year because i've been doing more livestreams. i see more and more younger people in my comments and in my chat, which i have no issue with, but i've become really concerned with the kinds of messages that certain trends in the community send to these kids :((((
I brought a lot of highlighters and made these so called aesthetic notes that took like 2 days ( 4hrs of rewriting my normal notes to aesthetic ones and that too, only one chapter.) and I really stopped using highlighters etc too. It is just, so unnecessary. I wasted a lot of money there.
@@mi-y I've seen young girls who are really sad for not having aesthetic notes and literally saying that they would never be good students because their notes are not aesthetically pleasing. It's just too sad to me :((( One girl, I think she's 14, said that on my DM, and I answered her like: look, I was one of the best students of my class, and my notes are horrible, were always horrible, I never used highlighters. I don't understand how the hell someone convinced these people that beautiful notes = good grades, where on earth does this even make sense??
@@AmandaFreitas1998 I totally agree! I was the same I had pretty messy notes but was a A student. Back then "aesthetic notes" were not a thing at all. That's so sad that anyone would feel that way, we don't need more ways for people to feel they aren't enough! :(
Seriously. Why on earth would you spend hours and hours trying to make your notes pretty when you're never going to use them again?!
Honestly I do not know how they could afford spending their time doing calligraphy notes and highlighting words with Muji pens and having to constantly watch out for pen mistakes AND actually study real time
it does take quite a bit of time but for me personally, i find it it fun and motivates me to study more.
I agree to all of them especially the one where it says *"you didn't lack time, you lacked discipline"* frustrates me. As someone who is going to classes, has a part-time job, house chores and has a family business(which we worked hard to build and is just starting). We don't have the freaking time to be aesthetically pleasing in your eyes because we're busy staying alive paying bills and making our dreams come true. Not all ppl are as priveleged as you yet you are ungrateful. Please wake up from being entitled and insensitive.
This was a much needed discussion. However I would also like to bring up a point that having these flaws within the studyblr community doesn't mean we should start hating people who make pretty notes, or like to study for long hours. Its a matter of doing things according to our own needs and environment, and not forcing our opinions on others. Please don't send hate to people who make pretty notes if they don't say that we should all make pretty notes. Some people are just visual learners. Please don't send any hate to people who upload videos of them studying for long hours especially when they've mentioned time and time again that studying is a hobby that they enjoy doing for long hours. We should also be responsible that we don't get sucked into all these false ideas.
important point
Well said
I really appreciate you talking about this since it is true and it's become more of a aesthetic/toxic ideology than the helpful and supporting ideology
i really love what you said about dark academia. i feel like the dark academia aesthetic leaves out people of color and it really reflects how poc are underrepresented in education-based media.
It's just an aesthetic, anyone can partake. How does an aesthetic leave out anyone? It's not real. If you want to wear blazers and plaid skirts just do it.
Guys.... Community College is freaking incredible. It’s how I was able to distinguish what major I wanted to pursue, save SO MUCH MONEY, get awesome financial aid, and guess what, I was able to go to transfer to a four year college and getting the degree I wanted. ☺️
I was an accounting major and I remember how everybody made it out to be this terrible thing if I couldn’t get into a four year college after high school. I needed to get surgery the week of my ACT/SATs, which meant that I couldn’t take the exams. I remember being so devastated that I wouldn’t be able to apply to a 4 year college but honestly, after starting Community College, I absolutely loved it and I have no regrets.
Don’t be ashamed to go to Community College!! Don’t be ashamed of how you get to where you wanna be, just celebrate once you get there. 🥰
Currently at a community college. I am trying to get my student loans repayed/forgiven so I can go back to school. I feel bad that I don't have my associate's degree yet, but I have over a 3.0 GPA so that's something, I guess.
Thank you Seo for speaking up about the toxic productivity. My family is going through a tough time and I have a lot of things to consider. The emotional burden really stops me from doing those 24/7 productivity, and even if I try to force myself to work so productively, the negative emotions come into me subconsciously with me having nightmares and being unable to go back to sleep for 3 hours, or waking up with a very negative mood that affects my whole day, waking up crying for no reason and unable to go to study right away. This makes me feel very guilty because I’m not like those people who could have a productive morning routine and study for 10 hours. Some days I don’t want to sleep because I know when I wake up tomorrow morning, I will face these strong emotions again and will need time to deal with them again, instead of being productive right way.
I'm so sorry your family is having such a tough time but you will get through it and I'm proud of you for pushing through!
I feel you :(( Hoping for the best for u and for your family. Im happy and proud of you my friend 🤍
@@knees0cks_49 Thank you so much for your kind words! It means a lot.☺️
@@Surveillenscamera Thank you so much for your kind words. I hope you the best too 💕
i hope that you and your family are doing alright, and i'm wishing you all a safe and happy holiday 🥺 please don't feel like you have to be constantly productive. taking care of yourself and your health, whether that be physical or mental health, is also a productive and genuinely important task!
I really appreciate this video because it really aligns with a lot of the problems I have had with the study community! I've had a lot of trouble studying and with school in general and I got involved with the study community to try and develop techniques modeled to me as a student. Instead, I found that a lot of the community was doing very basic things like taking notes and making study guides, but with outrageously expensive stationery, pens, and highlighters. These were things I couldn't really afford and I found myself frustrated and disheartened because I didn't think I could study and do well in school without these things. I love this video and I'm really glad you decided to speak up on these issues!
preach!! i've had the same experience and it's pretty frustrating as someone from a low-income family to see the study community normalizing the use of expensive stationery and stuff like ipads as stuff that will make you succeed in school. i wish that people put more emphasis on just using what you need and what fits you as an individual, and also on healthy practices and mindsets that will help you do well rather than things.
I appreciate this video and these comments because I really didn’t understand how people participating in the community didn’t seem to have any qualms or see something somewhat exclusive about the things like laughing off their aBsUrDLY large washitape, pens and markers, and other such collections, as well as other such things that require a lot of money that lower income people like me can’t afford, and it isn’t the showing of it that is exclusive to people in different circumstances, but the effect that it has on viewers, much like fiction, is what makes it somewhat toxic in that there isn’t much representation of cheaper alternatives that don’t still cost a pretty penny. I am still somewhat affected by the mentality it surrounds like the 24/7 productivity, which is incredibly taxing on my will to study in that much of the time it simply isn’t feasible for me to even get work done in a couple hours, no matter how small it may seem. In short, it just feels nice to have someone actually talk about it :”))))
@@floris.s_forest exactly!! I sometimes wonder what it would be like to have a study youtuber or study blog who places emphasis on stuff like that or makes videos featuring them using inexpensive study materials to achieve the same things as those who use expensive stationery!! I think it'd be super cool to see :)
@@floris.s_forest those infinite "huge stationary hauls" with an insane amount of washi tapes and markers and pens, and then the videos of "me organizing all my stationary" and the person using a whole fucking bookshelf just for their washi tapes... It always felt so toxic and totally non-related to study to me, just plain obvious unnecessary consumerism.
@@AmandaFreitas1998 omg someone had a whole bookcase of washi!? That's insane!!!
The portion about dark academia is thoroughly thought out and illuminating. I also always thought it was just about the filters and the plaid. I wanted to add that the fact that it's very eurocentric also perpetuates the concept of the "other"- like you mentioned, there are amazing classics by Arab poets for example but they don't get attention or recognition and so are perceived as "other"- meaning inferior, not intellectual, etc, when in fact Arabic poetry is so incredibly complex and beautiful and will always win over english poetry, in my opinion.
there is such a vast wealth of knowledge out there beyond just western thinkers and scholars, and it is such a shame that we don't consider others beyond them :(
@@tbhstudying I am honestly not in the community but I thought dark academia was just a "victorian fashion" type of aesthetic- I really didn't know aesthetics were a way of life but I am knkw reading more about it. That sort of dressing style was spread mostly around europe & the US so maybe the fashion is the actual reason behind the eurocentrism?
I literally don't understand people who don't consider other people's circumstances IN ANY GODDAMN SITUATION?? like I ALWAYS put myself in other people's shoes before making comments or ANYTHING...honestly blows MY MIND that people can be so inconsiderate when It comes to endless things...
Same, like I cant even comprehend not understanding or even considering the different classes and opportunities ppl have is insane.
Exactly!!! It says a lot of their privilege.
@@chabelllita YES exactly.
also can we talk about how neurotypical studyblr is?
thissss
so many of these just be productive, just do the grind is, and as someone thats ND, it makes me feel really bad about myself cause im like why cant i just do it
YES. i have adhd and so many of the hacks studyblr are things that wouldn't really help me at all
@@ellabanchieri8114 same here
Yes! A lot of tips for studying is to focus on one thing, don’t listen to music and be as minimalistic as possible, which is completely useless when the only way I can focus on anything is by overstimulating because of the amount of thoughts and anxiety. It’s sad because I feel bad sometimes for not studying for few hours straight or for not having motivation but it’s not my fault I can think only about how much I hate myself and want to hide in bed for weeks sometimes. 😔
the “being-most-productive” mindset is so damaging tbh. i, myself, got into this studyblr community at the age of 11-12 and got SO influenced by all these tips and quotes about being productive and SO blinded by all this beautiful stationary, that i’ve centred my whole life around that certain “aesthetic” and felt like a total piece of sh*t whenever i couldn’t be “productive” enough. sadly, i realised how toxic this mindset was only years later, when i have already burnt out. i think influencers on the internet should be more careful with what they say and propose, since not many of them actually realise how much power they hold over others (especially children).
Yess! I always thought I needed to study long hours to be successful, and the truth is you just need time to get your work done. Although I always took breaks, I stopped feeling guilty for taking breaks because I realized everyone needs time to relax
I thought u should study 24/7 hours a day but I have other things in my life too.
This related to the schools and ivy leagues:
My Father went to a community college and then college. He turned out very well. He has a very well paying job and was in the military and earned a respectable spot there. He is even currently getting is masters degree. He was not a good student until high school and was still very successful in life.
So I definitely agree with what you said in that section in the video.
I used to be too absorbed with all this productivity bs. Until burnout hit me. It took me almost 4 months to get out of the slump (unfortunately I'm in medschool and that means increasing workloads). After that, I started to take it slow and prioritise my physical and mental health. Guess what? I'm doing 100× better in my academic (I got A+s in my last 2 exams). Just move at your own pace and take a good care of yourself. It is perfectly fine to just be lazy sometimes :))
Im glad u said something about the 24/7 productivity that honestly is the one that frustrates me the most because people dont ever know what a person is TRULY going through behind closed doors and u dont know thier daily struggles not to mention WERE LITERALLY IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC people are losing thier jobs thier homes the people they care about due to illness not to mention the stuff they were dealing with before this happened so no we DONT have the same tWenTy fOuRr hOurRs
(srry for the rant😅)
The whole studyblr is such a lie. I graduated from law school with the most horrendous notes ever, a mechanical pencil, a pen, and that's it. I didn't even have a pc/laptop at the time. I had to use my psvita to investigate some topics. Srly if you have the time to studying (as little as it might be because life is a b) you can with an old notebook, a pencil and the material. I had classmates that studied while playing halo, the one who loses had to read articles of the law we were seeing, and thy graduated too. Studying must be something so personalised as your own daily routine. If you want to buy stickers gd washitapes anf pens, do it, but don't say it's for studying, that's an excuse.
thank you for saying that horrendous notes are ok, I'm still in highschool and I remember being overwhelmed by my new classmates on my first day because their notes are so organized and clear and their notes have variations on colors (highlighters for example) for what purpose they have, meanwhile I have the most basic notes ever with scribbles and asterisks for additional info on whatever space I could find so it's kind of like a where's waldo when reviewing my notes.
absolutely! when I was growing up, I was taught to write as neat and as legible as possible. Writing print was a no-no, we were only allowed to write in cursive. When I reached University, that all changed. We had tests before class, during, and after. When I had to study, I had to cram a lot of things, that I didn't care how my handwriting looked like - just as long as I understood and memorized what I needed to study. I even used to buy highlighters and glitter pens, but I only used those to decorate my desk.
seo spitting facts since the start of this video 👀☕️
I didn't study at all throughout quarantine because there always so much going on that affected me mentally, but when we went back to uni it seemed like everyone was halfway done with the syllabus. I wanted to hurt myself. but I didn't. I can't change the past, it was kind of my fault but also not really. I'll be okay. We will all be okay.
THIS! This needs to be said.
One time I heard I "can't be good at school because of the way I dress"
I wear combat boots with chains, ripped mom jeans with fishnets, crop tops, beanies, chokers, black skirts, I would say I'm soft-edgy
SUSAN I'M IN ALL HONORS AND HIGH HONORS CLASSES FOR NEXT YEAR (when i go to high school) AND ON HONOR ROLL CURRENTLY IN ADVANCED CLASSES
the way you dress doesn't define your grades Jesus crust
I’d say this video really put the “tbh” in studying
Real talk it’s so important that you’re voicing these concerns! You’re so perceptive and mature, and I’m glad you decided to make this even though you were doubting yourself!
Thank you for talking about this. One of my main issues with the study community that has prevented me from fully participating is the lack of diversity in terms of disability. At least from what I've seen, there are no big/popular people that talk about being neurodivergent or disabled so I feel excluded by the lack of representation. (This isn't an attack on you, rather a comment on the general community).
Guess it’s tea time 🍵
girl YES. can i like pull you out of my screen and give you a humongous hug?!? this is the first video I've seen that discusses the issues with the study community SO WELL!!!
i completely agree with literally everything that you said and I'm not gonna say why because there are enough comments on that. one thing I would've added that's kinda linked with 24/7 productivity and consumerism is the idea of ''ideal studying/note taking''. There are so many tiktoks that have someone take out their mildliners and muji and whatever other crap people think will make your notes cuter. then they doodle around a HUGE title and literally color in their notes as if it were a coloring book. those videos are often directed to college or high school students. is it just me when i say this: NO ONE in the real world in that grade level would have the time to do all of that bullcrap. i understand the point of trying to make your notes look -aesthetic-, but cute and aesthetic notes have taken over the study community SO MUCH that they're starting to be seen as the ''ideal notes''. we have all clearly lost touch of what notes are there for. not to brag to your friends about, but to actually maybe study from them? so many people, including me when i fell into this craze a few months ago, spend so much time making their notes that they don't even get to study from them!
this happened to me a few months ago, and i basically got Cs in my exams. now, PRACTIBILITY is a priority for me, and if i don't have the time to make my notes pretty, i don't. another thing that people probs misinterpret as having bad notes is when someone doesn't ask you to send them their notes. your notes are for YOU, only you. you don't need to change your notes so that they're nice and readable for everyone else, just YOU, which is why it bothers me so much that people often say that their note-taking method works for everyone. it really doesn't. everyone needs time and energy to find their own method. for example, i did just that, and now i get As or B+. i am not a study expert obviously, this is just how i personally view the aims of the study community.
I am honestly afraid that studying will become an actual ''trend'', and all people will do is take cute notes and show them of to tiktok or their friends, to the point where they're so sick of writing so much that they will start neglecting studying, just because they cant make their notes cute enough.
to the very small percentage of ppl that started reading my comment and made it here:
DON'T LET OTHER PEOPLE INFLUENCE YOU NEGATIVELY. You don't need the prettiest notes, you don't need to be at your study desk 24/7, and you don't need to feel good about your productivity all the time. You need to adjust to you. Only you. Let everyone else do them, but you do you
i was genuinely really hurt whenever I saw alot of studygrams and people in general saying that you've should've been passing all your classes or learning languages and other stuff at the same time, or you basically wasted your time. I thought I was worthless for barely making it to the end of my semester cause my notes didn't look pretty or I wasn't productive enough.
but yet again at I blame everything on Capitalism cause none of this crap would've been a problem if we were in a socialist society. I'm gonna focus on passing my freshman year in hs and look into programs at my local community college cause ✨debt ain't worth it✨
@@Pikadumpling I defintely agree with your debt part and honestly being debt-free is so important. I'm glad you realized that you don't need to have nice notes, all that matters is that you have a way to study that works for you. But I wouldn't necessarily say blaming everything on capitalism is good. If we were socialist, most people would be poor and people with innovative minds would not be able to get their rewards. Socialism is wrong, but I definteley agree that student debts should be lowered. People should be paying a reasonable amount of taxes and there should be ways for poor people to become rich and for mc people to become rich as well. The truth is, socialism sounds good but it has never worked. Look at Europe, the economies are failing, people can barely afford things, and things are in shambles. There needs to be adjustments to our capitalist system, but becoming socialist is not the answer. Capitalism is the system that works best throughout history, as long as wrongs are corrected and there is some concession for people who need it.
@@wwedddc5458 .......capitalism is the entire reason why I and my family have to depend on government welfare. I can barely afford to go to school yet alone have pretty notes. I wasn't joking when I said that socialism would work better than capitalism. the very life i live is why i can't be in this community. have a good day but don't come my way with that bs lmao.
@Pikadumpling Have a nice day. i do not wish to debate you because you do not understand how socialism makes people dependent even more on the government and capitalisms work, as America has prospered for many hundreds of years.
While I'm not necessarily a member of the study community I do consume quite a lot of study content. The part relating to educational elitism really hit home for me! I'm a junior in college now and when I was applying to colleges I watched a ton of videos of how to get into college and felt really pressured to get in a top name school. When the time came I ended up getting into my dream school NYU, and all I could think about was the way this uni was portrayed online and low key fantasizing about it. At the end of the day I got into my dream school, but I couldn't afford it. I ended up going to UCSC (which is still a great school) because it was way cheaper as a cali native. Looking back NO ONE in the community was talking about finances or the importance of taking the price into account when going to college. I felt ashamed tbh because I did the work to get in like everyone was saying, but couldn't go. If anyone is applying to college keep that in mind!!!
guys... i thought dark academia was just a new music-playlist concept... didn't know it went this deep
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I’ve been involved in studyblr for about 5-6 years now, and I have a chronic illness. Recently, my health has gone downhill. I have two benign brain tumors, and a condition called gastroparesis, all caused by a mitochondrial disorder. My health decline has caused my grades to absolutely tank, and I got rejected from my dream university because of this. I have never in my life resonated more with a video... the community makes me feel so inferior for not having the ability to utilize my time productively, for not testing well because of my illness etc. everyone in the community loves to talk about breaks, and that GPA/SAT doesn’t matter, but actions speak louder than words... not only is the community everything that was said in the video, it’s ableist as well because of the lack of recognition for physically ill and disabled students who don’t always have the privilege of being able to be productive.
I thought books like The Secret History and We Were Villians were a satire of elitism and the glorification of the unhealthy habits promoted by this environment but once it got turned into an aesthetic, all of that nuance was lost and esp on younger teens (who shouldn't be reading this) who are impressionable and haven't been taught to analyse as heavily yet. Because of this I think DA is dangerous out of the context of a genre!!
Let’s be honest “dark academia” is just = toxically depressing Harry Potter Fandom, who think they are ✨interesting✨
why are you hating on an aesthetic? what’s wrong with being a HP fan and liking dark academia?
I personally collect pens and stuff for fun and it does bother me when people think you need the best expensive things to study. Any pen will do, any highlighter will do..it's about the time and effort to study
I got myself an iPad for university at the end of my first year (I'm in my third year now), and the whole notion of "iPads give you good grades" is a LIE.
Having an iPad is great in many ways - it's more convenient to use, there's the delight factor that comes with using nice things, and all that, but having an iPad doesn't automatically mean that you'll get good grades. I got myself an iPad, and I still did worse than ever (which I don't want to think too much about) at uni.
Unless you have a clear idea of how you are going to use your iPad as a study companion, you won't get good grades. Having the iPad means nothing, anyone with the money and resources can get the iPad + Pencil they want, but what you do with your iPad & how you integrate it into your study strategy will determine how your grades will be. I learnt this the hard way, and now I've set up a study plan in such a way so that I can use it more effectively, and get the marks I seek.
You may not actually need an iPad to study. But if you do (or if you want one), think long and hard about your decision (I'd say sleep on it for some days) before making the investment. This goes for not just the iPad, but pretty much any expensive tech, really. :)
Yes exactly, I had an iPad before I took my notes for school on it, but I know exactly how to use it and that I use it. I never took notes on paper and I am also an Artist so an iPad fits my needs perfectly. But i wouldn’t recommend it just for writing notes, it wouldn’t be worth it. I use it for so much more then that and that is why it was a good Investment for me!
I literally bought an iPad after graduation (BA). You absolutely do not need it to graduate or have better grades. I love it, but I got it for fun and art afterwards, not for studies, although I ended up using it for journaling.
and even if you only have papers or notebooks, you can still have good grades. it really depends. I saved up to buy myself an iPad but two weeks passed then I realized that I actually didn't need it.
thank you so much for making this video seo!! i especially enjoyed the part about consumerism. in videos like "study with me"'s where the people are using the newest macbook and an ipad to study, i've seen a bunch of comments under it saying stuff like "omg i wish i could afford that stuff, i absolutely need them to study". it makes me really sad to see these types of comments, especially when it's obvious that the person making the video is well off and a lot of their viewers aren't. not that there's anything wrong at all with the person using a macbook and ipad to study! my point is that these videos normalize the idea that you must buy expensive stuff to study, which is harmful to impressionable viewers who are low-income, and i wish that more people acknowledged the considerable amount of privilege that plays a role here. i come from a low-income household myself, and i used to feed into all the consumerism in the study community, which is primarily perpetuated by people who aren't low-income. i've since learned that having expensive materials, or buying a lot of stationery, is definitely not ideal for me and i much prefer having a few staple pieces that will last me a long time and suit my lifestyle.
I really wish there was a study channel that talked about real issues... like not just hauls, but why we feel the need to be productive, how to like learning when the education system sucks it out of you, how to not depend on grades for self-worth, etc. Because a lot of it is just pretty, productive people with pretty stationary, but there’s not a lot of actually useful information imo 🧐. Like “drink water!!!” is great, but what about dealing with perfectionism??? Idk those are just my thoughts.
Man I have thoughts on the issues of mental health within the studyblr community. It made my anxiety and depression way worse. Especially seeing people talk about how much people studied or blaming bad grades on a lack of discipline. The perfectionism in peoples notes. Even the idea that you have to get all As puts emphasis on something arbitrary. I hate that we value this warped notion of intelligence that’s based on test scores and university acceptances.
Also as an ex-elitist it’s so sad how people are so insecure that they feel like they have to put people down to bring themselves up. It’s infuriating that people don’t see the structures that make meritocracy inherently problematic (ableism being a Huge one).
this!!!
thank you!!
I get straight A’s just fine without fancy equipment (actually I barely even write notes at all, unless it’s for future reference.) That said, I just really like note supply’s and one of my goals this year is to purchase good supplies to make “aesthetically pleasing” notes as a way to inspire myself to help fellow students in my class and use my notes more often themselves. C:
Not me being early because I am ✨ t h o r s t y ✨ for tea ☕️ 👁👄👁
you spoke truth nothing else
The language learning community is waaay similar to this. The "get a million colors of pens and expensive supplies" thing in particular hit close to home lmaoo
Right and the subtle push to learn as many languages as possible
I'm part of the language learning community. I hate when people think I have to spend $50 to $200 on a language learning program. There are so many free resources. I just use a composition book and lead pencils to practice writing and reading. I listen to podcasts and radio in my target language to help my listening skills.
the language learning community is SO toxic
Hi seo! I appreciate the captions!
glad they help!
I'm 20 years old, and I've seen age 12-14 students spent their whole savings just to buy trendy stationeries. I don't have many trendy stationeries, but I got straight A's all the time. I'm trying my best to pay for tuitions and essential items since I'm not financially independent and my parents have to take care of my brother and sister too. I always feel it's not essential to buy trendy things to be successful as a student. Even I don't study 24/7 people think I'm lying and studying 24/7. There are a few youtube videos like 'Let's be 24/7 productive'. That's what led people to think it's effective and healthy to be productive 24/7. I'm glad a person like you talked about these trends. Students should learn from this. It's mostly the teenagers who get into those trends, thinking it's the best way to be a successful student.
2 minutes in and i already know you're going to go off. I'm so glad these things are being said bc it was needed!
Preach it girl! I love the study community but as a first gen student that NEEDS to work full-time in order to afford tuition while also helping my siblings with their online schooling, some parts of the community always felt a bit unrealistic to me personally. For example, study tips or even “productive” videos bother me sometimes because although the study tips/techniques are cool and can be useful for some people, for me they seem to be soooo time consuming and even expensive. I try to enjoy this content for simply being fun content, but it sucks that sometimes I am left feeling guilty or ashamed because im not being the type of student that I see in these videos. Sometimes I think youtubers forget that not everyone lives in a place where then can sit down, be alone and be “productive” for 5-10 hours straight when in reality most students have to manage school whenever they can due to other responsibilities.
I got into the study community in like 2016-2017 and the learning killed my mental health.
the only reason I brought an iPad is because I was spending a lot more money in buying notebooks, papers and writing utensils. Plus my notes and papers either get lost or ruined by some reason. I just wanted to save time and pain.
Woah you actually made this video :o
edit: okay so i will admit, some of these things need to be said. Especially the consumerism portion of this, and I will admit, I use a lot of zebra sarasa pens and mildliners (and etc). I think trying to link getting good grades and being productive to stationary, especially of those of which in the more expensive brands, is dangerous. Personally, I like using pretty stationary because of the quality of the ink and then color variation that comes with Crayola Super Tips and etc. but it doesn't have impact on how productive I am overall. Definitely enjoyed this video, Seo
*THIS*
This is one of the greatest reasons why I love seo...she is considerate and looks at different perspective...
Omg about the elitist part. I wish I could find more study TH-camrs that go to community college
I’m one of those people who envy those people who study with all colours of mildliners, so I bought all the colours (I was in Grade 10 or so).
I regret that I bought everything I see and envy, and I barely even use them. I think I use only one or two at a time now that I’m a sophomore in university.
Same goes to iPad. The reason why I bought my iPad Air was for the sake of organizing since paper is so confusing for me in university unlike back in high school. But for notes? I’m better off with paper tbh.
Thx))
I can relate
I too bought an iPad Air, it is useful when you don't need to print out paper for classwork and exam practice, but for notes, I think I can memorize mostly on paper since everything digital hurts my eyes (i wear glasses lol).
seeing all those pinterest quotes abt me having to be productive 24/7 made me more anxious about procrastinating or even resting in general, it gave me a mindset that if u rest, u fail :^(
Spilling the tea ! I've been in the community since 2014 too, albeit on and off, but I totally agree with a lot of what you said. Although the studyblr community has been supportive and nice most of the time, the consumerism worries me because it produces so much waste. All the buying of unnecessary stationery comes with so much plastic that takes years to decades to decompose.
Being a Dutch student the costs of most prestigious universities is absolutely SHOCKING. It has always been my dream to study at a prestigious university, but growing up and reflecting on the value of money I am seriously reconsidering this dream. Can it ever be worth that much???
6:47 so so true!! I attend to vocational school to study administrative assistance, and sometimes it's really hard because everyone treats me like I made some kind of stupid choice? I am always hearing things like "ah cool... but that's pretty easy tho","you are not really studying then", "but you had some of the best grades on your school, why are you doing this?", "and what are you gonna work at? A receptionist? Lol, ok", "Just hope you don't regret later". And those are not necessary comments coming from Karens, they also come from people of my age, old schoolmates and teachers, etc. Like I am tired of explaining myself, exposing my future plans or trying to justify my choices. Not going to an university doesn't makes me worthless. Yes, I wanna study administrative Assistance, and?. Yes, later I want to make government' exams to be a librarian, and? Yes, I know that I won't earn as much money as others, but who cares? I just want to be happy with the life choices that I make, not to choose things just because what I am supposed to do. And if you are not happy with my life choices? Not my problem, the thing is that I am satisfied with my life decisions. I am as worth as I would be studying at Harvard, sorry if you can't understand that.
i think it's really admirable that you're choosing the educational path that will lead you to what you want to do in life! i'm sorry that people don't appreciate your efforts in your studies & i'm wishing you all the best!
Fully support, as a vocational student who was eligible for the gOoD course at good college but chose something else.
this really rings true for me. i'm still somewhat young, in my early teens, and i already know what i want to do. i'm "gifted" or whatever so my parents think i'm wasting my potential by wanting to do what i really want- studying management of restauration establishment, because my dream is to open my own cafe. am i really wasting my potential by doing that, i don't think so. i'm tired of chasing money and fame because it's expected. the "hustle" isn't in me and i've accepted that i want a quieter life, less money, and i'd rather be not wasting my actual potential, my happiness. i'm okay with having less money, less vacations, a smaller house, if it means my day to day life won't be dull because i spent years chasing what people think i want when i don't value those things.
OMG YES EXPENSIVE MATERIALS. About a year ago, I thought I needed expensive pens to make my notes look "pretty." I asked my parents for a bunch of expensive pens which I now feel bad about. I learned to work with what I had. AND YES THE IPADS OML- That was also something I thought I needed to have to take once again, "pretty notes." Anyways, just remember, YOU DON'T NEED EXPENSIVE MATERIALS. AS LONG AS YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING THE LESSON, YOU'RE OK!
Hey! I study Classics and English at Oxford so i guess i'm DaRk AcAdEmIa personified, and I completely agree with all of your critiques. I like the aesthetic, but that's because I like studying classics and that kind of style anyway. I hate the whitewashing and eurocentrism of the DA community. Most of the blogs I follow make a point to post poc in the da community, but there are precious few mainstream blogs that do the same. What really gets me is people treating the Secret History like it's some kind of bible as to how one should act to be "dark academia enough" when (in my reading of it at least) it's pretty clearly critiquing and taking jabs at that entire aesthetic. I relate to a lot of your critiques of the studyblr community and I'm so glad you brought them up bc I was starting to think that this was just what was normal now and it made me so uncomfortable - the consumerism, the classism, everything. Thank you for making this video!
That one dislike is legitimately salty
Now its 2
now 5. we do have a rough idea on who disliked tho
@@mihirbapatwritings1234 who do you suspect?
@@bellerosa3854 the ones who do all the things which seo mentioned and just plain haters.
That one disliker owns a dark academia pin board but doesn't even know Mary Shelley or can't even name a greek philosopher.
there are 6,500 languages in the world and she chose to speak FACTS
Those comments on educational elitism really resonated with me. It's not really a studygram issue, but I think it's a societal issue.
We know that studying in community colleges/lower-ranked institutions doesn't matter, what matters more is what you do with the education you can afford. You're pretty smart if you score a stellar GPA in college, regardless of where you went.
But unfortunately, society doesn't feel the same. Employers (read: capitalists) don't feel the same. Having a degree from a prestigious university looks much better on a CV, and is a rather expensive ticket to better job opportunities and socio-economic standards in the future. Many degrees have become "worthless" (I mean, if you go back to the 90s or further behind, having a Bachelor's degree was a rarity), so now, the university you go to matters a lot. A degree from a lower-ranked university (even if it's the same subject, same title) is worthless compared to that from a higher-ranked university. It doesn't really make much sense, the more you think about it. It's why children as young as 13-14 plan their extra-curriculars and academics in such a way, they/their family sees entering a prestigious college as a means of securing their future in this world.
But such is our meritocratic capitalist society. Merit, in itself, may seem to be unbiased, but there are many background factors influencing merit - if you're better off, you can afford investing in private tuitions, better quality devices, et al to ensure that you attain merit. Merit doesn't narrow down wealth inequality, it exacerbates it. Even macroeconomic models can prove it.
glad you addressed the consumerism in the community. buying brand new and expensive supplies so notes can be perfect and pretty is a major reason why studyblr is as popular as it is today (people loove buying things and pretty things) but there are (obviously) deeper/more important reasons why people study and pretty notes aren't a steady motivator
"anyone can get a 4.0 if they put the time into studying" "she was surprised to hear i was in the dean's list and thought i was stupid" "i earned my good grades"
things i hear from my law school peers who lack insight and are out of touch with the fact that they have the time, resources, space, peace, mental stability, and background to achieve their ranks v. other students who lack those things or have disadvantages that prevent them from achieving their goals.
they "made it" bc they had the opportunity to. and yes studying and earning grades is a lot of hard work and takes a certain amount of grit/discipline, but realize that on top of your efforts, you had the OPPORTUNITY to achieve things that others can only dream of. you are not special or any smarter/better than others. you are a normal person with your own unique experiences that got you where you are because of certain skills/life circumstances. it is a mix. not everything depended on you.
i wish some of my classmates paused and realized others in their class or out in other departments struggle for reasons that aren't their fault and that they are not smarter than those who struggle, and might actually be undeserving of it when comparing actual intellect (NOT knowledge gained through books, time, resources, classes - but ACTUAL intelligence and cleverness).
This!!! I completely agree!!!
it’s 4 am here but seo really splashing me with them good knowledge and opinions 🥰
I really love this video tbh and I want to share it with some people I know also struggle with the idea that they need to study 24-7, because even outside of the study community, some people enforce this idea that to be a good student and to get good grades you have to study every second of your life, be a perfect student, and always follow the herd. My personal experience with studying is that it's more effective for me to work when I feel motivated, not push myself to my limit trying to study for 7 hours on end. Another thing that I wish people would realize is that sacrificing mental health for the sake of grades isn't anything good. I've personally done it, and sometimes still do out of this fear that I won't be able to lead a decent life without good grades, but I'm self aware that it's unhealthy and that I use work sometimes to avoid my problems. I'm also aware that a lot of the time, the issue is not that I don't retain information, or that I didn't study enough, and it's just I have anxiety and my ability to do well under pressure is pretty low! I know it, and instead of pushing myself to a limit where my mental health is at risk and I'm focusing on the wrong thing, instead I should focus on communication, letting teachers know of the situation, and working on my anxiety a bit so I can perform better. I think sometimes we associate bad grades or one wrong thing (in this community) with a lack of studying, or we don't know the material well enough. It's probably not that, and there's an underlying factor that we oversee because we feel the pressure to be so "perfect" and study consistently. I'm so glad that someone addressed the things you did in this video because it's nice to see that people are aware of these issues and want to speak out about them. Thank you!
Thank you for this! This is why I stopped momentarily from grad school - the idea of sensationalizing/romanticizing the mindset of overproductivity when it harms you in many ways.
Currently I'm studying on a different track (certificate programs) and yeah I always need to remind myself to take things one step at a time.
TL;DR: we might have the same 24 hours, but it wouldn't hurt to take care of yourself first. A little self care that you show today will come a long way. 💖
I went to a university in my state for my first degree, followed by a community college for a degree in a specialized trade, and I just tried one semester at a “prestigious” university in my state and THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE in the quality of education I received, and I will make note that I was taught by student aids at the prestigious university and not an actual doctor in the subject. After speaking to several possible future employers, unless you are going into a super niche field, the college you go to DOES NOT MATTER. I am leaving the prestigious school I am at now to go to the state school in my state to get my master’s. I will get my entire master’s degree at a state school for the price of one semester at the prestigious university here. Worth it.
Honestly this video is so important! As a WoC I’ve never really felt welcome in the studyblr community and I’ve always thought that dark academia was weirdly focused on European classics/history/languages etc. thank you for putting my thoughts into words!
As a black girl, I was attracted to the elite prestige of dark academia. But never saw people like me anywhere in the community. I wanted to showcase Toni Morrison and James Baldwin, not Oscar Wilde...
The reason it is 'weirdly' focused om European stuff is bc it comes from European culture...
My point is not to invalidate yojr feelings. I am European so I cannot relate to your position. But all that stuff is part of my culture and my countries history. I do find it weird that some non-Europeans obsess over it so much. It is okay to like the aesthetic but some people go to far :/
@@internetpotato6734 I’m European as well? Lol I get that it originated here but the thing is it’s supposed to be about academia in general but the only academia that is seen as valid in this community is the one originating in Europe. And it just pisses me off because so much of European culture was based on Eastern and Asian philosophy, on African inventions and culture. But that fact just continues to be ignored.
@@ummicoats5207 deadass toni morrison is SO amazing, love her work
ik i can't speak on behalf of the studyblr community, but i'm so so sorry. i think everyone, especially poc, deserves to belong in a community that encourages a love of learning, and the studyblr community needs more people like you. it sucks that dark academia is so eurocentric, but i genuinely hope that we can make positive changes moving forward. sending u lots of love!! 💕💕
Well dark academia isn’t accessible to everyone but the reality is that actually a lot of people who like it are indeed inclusive, but of course since the literature, the art and the fashion style who basically constitute dark academia are European, dark academia is Eurocentric. It’s also quite hypocritical how people who live in the US, no matter what their ethnicity is, are so quick to judge something that is Eurocentric when literally the whole internet revolves around US standards...
I also think that it is deeply wrong to condemn books such as the ones from Donna Tartt just because they revolve around white privileged wealthy people. Just because something doesn’t mention being antiracist (and the same could be said about any social issue) or doesn’t have diversity in its characters it doesn’t mean that it must be racist.
It seems to me as if lots of people nowadays like preaching about choices and freedom, but then put so many limitations that may not be formal but certainly end up being substantial because if pieces of literature or art in general don’t conform to those limitations it means they must be racist or homophobic or transphobic or elitist or whatever else.
Nobody is going to force aesthetics on you, you identify with it if you want to; dark academia is already changing and becoming more inclusive , which is great. I just wish people didn’t have to condemn something just because it is mostly centered around European culture (and guess what - without those European things dark academia wouldn’t even exist in the first place).
i agree SO much
diversity and inclusivity is not only constrained to the US. i'm sure europe has its own problem with racism and lack of inclusivity that manifests differently than it does in the US, but that doesn't meant that it's not present.
@@tbhstudying definitely, europe has its problems, yet we actually do stuff about it,
countries with bad politicians or in crisis, those people can illegally come to europe and be welcome,
If someone is being racist in the train, and people defend the victim of racism/xenophobia, and more often then not, the person who is being racist is thrown of the train.
We give free language courses to immigrants from not (insert language) country.
And once they do, they are integrated into public schools at their respective levels.
They do not only come illegally, and get treated human, but they are respected as part of the major society, since of course, europe also has its problems with racism.
-sincerely, daughter of immigrants in Europe.
I couldn't stand to keep bullet journaling or keep up my studyblr bc all these accounts were focused on how pretty their notes looked rather than content. Sure, highlighting is nice to lead the eye around, but if you highlight and add all this other shit to your notes suddenly you can't focus anymore. It's too busy then.
That first tweet made me so angry bc I'm a nursing studying and the way the pandemic affected me... omg... I've being dealing with mental illnesses since I was 12, but now I'm diagnosed with bipolar disorder type 2, generalized anxiety disorder, panic disorder and PTSD and on top of that I'm having seizures because of the anxiety. My life stopped since the beginning of 2020 and it makes me feel terrible when people are so insensitive about what's happening arround the world and still decides to make you feel bad for feeling bad and not being productive. Remember: your health ALWAYS comes first.
Ur take abt consumerism is so on point. When the mildliners and brush pens were trending even I thought only those would improve my note-taking skills and study experience. I even thought of buying them but they were so expensive that I had to choose an alternative from the local store which had the same pastel colors as the mildliners and worked perfectly,yet I had this never ending desire inside me to buy the mildliners. I didn't even realise that I had fallen prey to consumerism until I saw this and Mariana's video.
I was honestly looking for a video like this and I'm glad your video appeared in my recommendations. I've recently been watching study vlogs to sort of "motivate" me which they somehow they did, but I agree with what you said. Honestly, I can't study for 12-15 hours a day because I have to do other things too like laundry, washing the dishes, cleaning the house in general lol. There were also days when I couldn't bring myself to do anything school-related at all and even taking a bath was a huge task already. There were days when my worries and doubts eat me up that I just end up watching movies/series, spending time with my family, or not doing anything at all.
About the consumerism aspect, I have to agree as well. I've seen a lot of people with these many pens, highlighters, and other things which I think is okay if it helps them but not really necessary that everyone should get as well. Personally, my learning style is highlighting notes/printed handouts and writing some things on them, but I don't use like fancy pens or highlighters. Some of my highlighters and pens last up to a year and I'm contented with them. As long as they're working then I'm good. I also honestly can't afford to buy like 20+ highlighters/pens. I've seen people take aesthetic notes as well and if that is effective for them, then that's good. I just hope people don't force themselves to do these things because it's the trend. There are honestly a lot of ways on how to study aside from what we see here in youtube or other websites. I hope we all discover our own learning styles and productive hours. Also, don't forget to take breaks. Unwind from time to time too. And yes, it's okay if you're not productive all the time. Lastly, there is still an ongoing pandemic. Our health and survival should be our top most priority right now.
Anyway, got carried away in typing this comment. Hope you all do well in your studies but mostly in surviving and living life during this pandemic. Advance Merry Christmas! Hope you all reading this are safe and healthy.
THANK YOU for sharing this OMG. you articulated this SO well and honestly thank you for bringing these issues to light!!
As a black person who just got into dark academia, I loved every point you brought to the table on dark academia considering representation wise it's almost degrading. Just recently getting into studying and just making it aesthetically pleasing for myself to engage in and you were one of the people who showed me I didn't need money to do that so thank you!
you can partake in dark academia as a black person, i’m southern european, and i can’t dress dark academia because of climate, but it really hurts me that people who preach cultural appropriation hate european culture because it’s not diverse, i enjoy dark academia and have lists of black arab and asian poets that i’ve discovered bc of dark academia, but i really don’t get why people complain about it being eurocentric when it centers around northern europeans learning about south europe
@@sailormoon3726 it's not exactly a cultural appropriation topic my comment was talking about representation rather than the actual diversity of europe. I know Europe is diverse I'm pretty sure most do, it's not really complaining Europe is diverse their I black people from France, Asians who live in Europe. But that's not it, my concern is more so based on the way it's presented in media because those same people aren't shown in dark academia. I never said I couldn't participate in the aesthetic.
On dark academia: I like dark academia on a very surface level and I only learned of this aesthetic like 2 months ago. I haven't watched any movies or read books that are hyped in the community. And I don't lile Harry Potter (someone commented that people in dark academia haven't gotten over not receiving their Hogwarts letter). I just really like the xlothing style and the vintage aesthetics. And I never realized the europecentrism (is that the word?) was a problem. That is probably bc I am European and obviously my entire life is europecentrist and so are the things I learned in school. I had latin in school, learned about great European artists, musicians and writers and had to read Shakespeare. I always liked visiting old castles and other buildings, which there are plenty of in Europe. So I feel like enjoying dark academia as a European isn't that weird, bc especially for my country, the aesthetics have been its actual aesthetic some time ago. This is not me disagreeing with you, I totally agree and I think it is especially bad to glorify certain artists that actually were kinda horrible people and I find parts of the academia community very pretentious. I kinda just wanted tl share my thoughts from a European perspective.
Edit: I also read a comment about including Arabian, Egyptian and East Asian etc academic aesthetics and I would love to see that.
I also read a comment about how dark academia stems from European culture and therefore it is logical for it to be centered on Europe and I agree. You wouldn't go to native Americans and tell them their culture isn't diverse enough just bc it does not include black people. You cannot blame dark academia for Americans taking it and then saying it is too European. I think it would be cool to start different academia aestgetics for different cultures. And you can totally argue that European culture has very racist and colonialist sides to it but that doesn't nullify the culture. You just gotta be careful with glorifying people and stuff.
Edit 2: Now thinking about it I find it slightly weird that some Non-Europeans obsess over our culture to the point of blind glorification. It is okay to be interested in a culture and to like the music etc but some take it too far.
Are you unaware of the black people living in Europe? It's extremely weird to only see pale white Aryan girls because Europe is much more diverse. Where are darker eastern Europeans? Asian Europeans? Black Europeans? After the years of exploitation at the hands of Europe it's very sad to read "oh well this ONLINE TUMBLR AESTHETIC shouldn't be diverse because x"
@@kitbracadabra I disagree. You will never ask for the same treatment in other cultures
For example: a white person would never be considered african or asian, even if they were born there. And for obvious reason. Therefor, a white person would never be included in those culture representations, aesthetics, and so on. So why should black and asians be included just because they live in Europe? They were not part of that culture in the past
Just like only chinese will be represented for chinese aesthetic like the historic ones, because there were only chinese people, or native american for that type of aethetic and representation. In fact, if a white person is added on those aethetic, it is considered cultural appripiation, but apparently it's not available for european culture when others want to be added
Imo, there is nothing wrong with things focused on europeans if the subject is that culture. So let it be like that
I'm glad you talked about this because when I joined the study community there were not so many people to guide me about this. I hope this helps the new comers and the younger members to realise the dark side and ignore it.
thank you so much for doing this video, seo! there's a lot of unspoken issues on the study community and you covered it pretty well and thoroughly!
wow! this is actually a rly well done video and I think u bring up so many good points!!... I think “making school an aesthetic” is something that can be super helpful for people (I know it is for me) but I totally agree that it’s doesn’t always need to involve expensive items and prestigious colleges. also, sometimes I’m just not feeling it and my writing is a little messy and my highlighting is a little sparse, but that’s okay and I think people in the study community forget that sometimes...
anyways, overall great video!!
It's weird how people got the impression that good supplies means better grades. Where did it come from?? One of my first study youtubers was Holly Gabrielle and she uses like 2 ballpoint pens and makes some pretty nice study notes. I just like stationery, which fine, falls under the consumerism aspect, but I never imagined that it did anything for my grades.
I remembered when my mental health was really bad I decided to stop watching studyblr videos because I was beating myself for not studying hard enough and I'm just recently realising that I need to balance school, work and fun to function and it's not ok to be so obsessed with the grind you need to enjoy yourself, watch a show you like once in a while, play some Genshin just find a way to relax and let loose because life isn't all about all work and no play playing is good for your mental health ( in moderation ofc, I'm trying to say study in moderation too). Just take away from his that moderation is key in life and this applies to studying too!
you really went off on this video tbh 😭😭😭 and honestly i'm here for it, would love to see more stuff like this!
thank you for making this ! i didnt take the time to think critically about the studytube content i saw here, and tbh, i have almost all of the products that you mentioned. however, i did notice myself taking a step back and examining my consumerism recently, even though my consumerism is already limited by living well below the poverty line, working, and going to school full-time. moving forward, ill surely be more conscious of these topics and the toxicity in studying content here. i appreciate you starting a discussion around this