Time Magic & Super Speed - Epically Overpowered!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- There are many ways to imagine superhero and/or magical powers, with very different mechanics for each one. A speedster that is just physically based would be severely limited compared to one that is protected by the Speed Force to withstand the enormous energy and heat from friction that would be generated by moving a supersonic velocity or even lightspeed.
Time magic on the other hand allows for most the same benefits and more, depending on how you conceptualize it. You can argue that it's the one of the most undefeatable superpowers. What good is superhuman strength and toughness if you can't hit the enemy?
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The first-person shooter game _SUPERHOT_ is a good illustration of just how ludicrously overpowered even a limited ability to slow time would be. The premise of the game is that, to quote the introductory dialogue, "time moves only when you do"--when you stand still, so does time, and as you move, time speeds up. With the aid of that ability, you can pull off ridiculous stunts like slicing bullets out of the air with a sword, or shooting a burst from a machine gun with every bullet scoring a headshot on a different enemy.
Technically, time is extremely slowed down in Superhot (well, the original game) when you stand still, as the main character is still breathing, thus counting as some form of movement.
Yup. :) th-cam.com/video/oeoiWfzWtwY/w-d-xo.html
Makes sense, as we live and move in a space-time, not just space and time.
U no
@@antonius.martinus Hell yeah, if you're talking about what I'm thinking of, Time grenade + Pistol is all you need.
The first dishonor has a similar ability to temporarily slow or stop time. You Could use this power to kill servel people at once with this power
JoJo has already shown us the most important use:
Trolling Polnareff.
Yes
@@theKobus Wait a sec... If you talked while time is stopped when time goes back to normal all of the talk would combine into one sound explosion and everyone around would be deaf. That's the ultimate use of time stop.
Skallagrim: if you could combine time manipulation with spider sense that would be the ultimate combination!
Diavolo: *Smiles smugly*
Dio has something against the French climbing stairs...
Jojo's bizarre adventures had a terrible ending as the showed all there abilitys where not the same just to give Jojo the same power as Dio. like ok the world was master of time then why not just make star platinums the ability to Control space/ the atmosphere around him.
Ironically, I'm seeing this just *after* voting "haven't seen it in my feed yet" in that poll. One of the most interesting video concepts I've seen in a while, nice.
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Imagine how cursed you would be, being able to control time AND being a perfectionist
Read “The Perfect Run,” it’s exactly that.
*screams in Stanly Kubrick*
There's a video from Cyanide & Happiness that dealt with a hilariously similar concept.
I want a 1v1 fighting game where every character is just Skall in different "cosplay"
I would pay good money for that game.
Ever heard of Hellish Quart? XD
I think the idea of a "Skallagrim mod" for this game is a good one. ;D
Yes absolutely
@@archangelrsr1326 PLEASE, YES
@@archangelrsr1326 gonna need him to cosplay various things tho... regardless that sounds like a solid idea...
- How can one beat him?
- With a stick, while he sleeps. But on the horse and with lance in his hand he's unbeatable.
Knight's tale?
@@YourFunkiness Indeed!
@@YourFunkiness Yes.
Undervalued film.
You can't always go to the ocean to film: We get that.
You're busy, and many of your videos require your PC at home: We get that.
With that said, It's shockingly enjoyable listening to you talk with an actual ocean background like this.
"The greatest magic of all, is Chronomancy" - Arthur Aguefort
"THE WORLD!!!!!!!" - DIO
Which Dimension 20 campaign is that from?
@@sagecho4510 The first fantasy high one i think,,, I don't have dropout tho so its definitely on youtube
@@simonharford4834 thanks
Yup, first season of Fantasy High. Throwaway joke in the first episode ends up being epic foreshadowing for the last.
A good example of Chronomancy can be found in the warhammer 40k novel The Infinite and The Divine. A necron, Orikan the Diviner, spends three subjective years repeating a fifteen-minute segment of time trying to get past a set of security defenses that keep almost killing him over and over again.
That novel is glorious.
My favorite 40k novel so far
Don’t forget the court case
Yes warhammer 40k is busted and awesomely grimdark XD
Save scumming irl
That's the thing people don't get about time powers or super speed, you're basically untouchable as long as you aren't caught off guard. You can be incredibly stealthy if you can stop time and you can win almost every fight because you'll be able to attack multiple times before the opponent even gets the chance to defend and you won't need strength because you'll be able to use force multipliers.
if you can move your body at such speed, realistically you'll need the strength and endurance to match it. time manipulation isn't bound by such requirements.
Literally the Dishonored games XD
Tell that to Red Rush
To be fair Nolan has super speed too.
@@BigAutisticDaddy Yeah if you're going super fast and you punch someone you might as well be punching a brick wall
I’m a novelist, one of my main characters has time powers, here’s how it works:
The basic premise of the book is that everyone in our real world wakes one day with a random ability w/ a limitation. They have instinctual/preconscious knowledge of how it works, but they’re not immediately cognizant off the minutiae. It’s meant to be that the powers don’t get stronger, just that you interpret the somewhat ambiguous guidelines in more creative ways over time.
The ability in question is called hourglass, which allows you to dilate time. You have one hour of “fuel” and the hourglass empties at a rate equivalent to the dilation. The hourglass refills while not using the power, so if you made time run at 1/2 speed, you could keep it up for half an hour, or fifteen minutes from our perspective. Same with 2x speed, half hour for us, 15 minutes for the user. After which the hourglass is empty, and you’d have to wait an hour to get a full tank back.
Eventually the character realizes that messing with time should have much more adverse effects on him than it does, and comes to the revelation that his powers have been shielding him from the adverse effects, and that he can turn the safeguards off by degrees. When he first tries it while slowing down time, the air around him gets super cold and the air pressure drops. However, when he turns his powers off, he realizes that he was giving off heat like an oven. Because all the molecules were slowed down, it mimicked a loss of energy and temperature, meanwhile his own molecules experienced two seconds of movement every second, resulting in a large increase in the energy level of his own molecules, or that’s how it appears anyway. Lifting more safeguards would do things like multiply the force of gravity, cause deafness and blindness because our eyes and ears wouldn’t be able to pick up sound/light waves that slow.
That's cool details.
But a full hour sounds OP af, you know
Contingency spells in D&D act like a preprogrammed "spidersense" with predetermined triggers.
Literally every JoJos main villain is laughing.
Especially father Pucci
What about Killer Qu- no wait.
Yep. Dio stops Time for everyone but himself. Kira goes back to a point in time. Diavolo skips points in time and moment for everyone. Pucci fast forwards time for everyone. Too bad Wonder of U is just a passive D4C Love Train.
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@@SeraNeph Mandom, A True Man's World
You missed the ultimate power of having a time ability.... Naps whenever you want for as long as you want.
This is actually one of the primary reasons that time manipulation has long been the power I'd want most...
@@Drazex Same!
On the same vein as this you can get a full night rest in a fraction of the time. Imagine being able to do late night, early mornings and be well rested.
An extra 8 hours a day for sleep.
Yeah, that would be a great superpower.
The problem is that this would come at the price of shortening your life relative to everyone else's. Although you could probably offset this by speeding time up while, for example, waiting for a bus or during some sort of a long transit situation... I'm not sure you could do that, though, because if conservation of momentum plays a role, you probably couldn't do this while on a bus. You'd just become stuck in place and the bus would break apart around you. But then again so will the planet. You'd just fly away into space probably. Yeah... speeding time up is dangerous, guys.
There is a big consideration that it often overlooked for time control. If a person can slow or stop time around them (the "external clock") but they are not also slowed/stopped i.e. they are not being affected by the time control, then we can assume their internal body clock is still going. If they slow down and/or stop time too often, relative to the external clock, they would seem to age considerably quicker. They might age 50 years when 30 years have only passed externally for example, and they would need to periodically speed up time in order to "catch up/sync" to the external clock.
They could do it whenever they need to wait for anything.
That first skit reminded me of the Ekko trailer for League a few years ago.
He was attacked, his response is to rev up his zero drive (time-science-magic-thingy) and basically give himself a redo button. He then gets destroyed, goes back, evades the first attack. He gets hit on the second attack and he goes back again. You keep seeing him going back and back, BUT retaining his injuries (cool touch if you ask me). After he beats the attacker, a mural is destroyed. This makes him decide to go back one more time and fight again just to save that mural. It's one of the best character trailers IMO. A lot of insight and making for a seriously powerful person!
Time control (aka chronomancy): Never having to engage unless having to prevent something from happening to someone else, if you're aware of what is happening (though it is also great for getting multiple angles and better insight into a situation before deciding). If you do need to engage to prevent something happening to someone else then you have all the "time" you need to get it right.
Not to mention if you’re a completely over powered chronomancer that can turn back time you can watch things play out then turn back the clock and alter the events. Unless this is like against the laws of chronomancy or something lol.
Reminds me of that scene in Megamind where Metro Man has a full on existential crisis while in super speed and everyone's just frozen in place...
Good movie, Megamind.
So, basically the gameplay explanation of katana zero
Literally screen shoting this to have a wizard in my dnd game say to the players
@Валерий Елькин If referencing real world oracular type use yes. But within fiction "mancy" takes on an additional meaning of "control". I.E. Pyromancy (control of fire) and Necromancy (which is both control of the undead and the use of remains for divination). There is also the underlying assumption in fictional magic systems that generally if you can perceive it (divine means "to see" as well as being a reference to godlike beings), you can control it, if you're strong enough in mind.
Another outstanding video, we even got some Skall vs Grim top 10 anime fight scenes.
Many thanks!
I would like to put forth that slowing down time to study for tests would be pointless however. This is of course because, according to physics, the force of procrastination increases directly with the amount of time available.
Thanks, and I'm glad all the editing work was worth it. Also good point on the procrastination. xD
I dare to propose a second hand skill coming along that time skill by that - a power of discipline to actually being capable of making something out of that additional time :D
Stuff like freezing time, slowing it for everyone but you, or manipulating the timing of your attacks are some of my favorite super powers. Time based powers are pretty much always really cool and a lot of times pretty scary to fight against.
Skall, you should talk about healing factors and precognition (by a couple seconds or so) and how they would effect a fight.
Precognition is shown in the first seconds. Just ignore the "time rewinding" bit.
Yes, you just win in basically 95% of the time.
4:34 Physics pedantry: The heat doesn't come from friction with air molecules, but adiabatic compression (air is squeezed rather than pushed aside). This is the same with atmospheric reentry.
There is still friction but its significantly less important than compression as you say.
Thanks. I also do physics, but I suck at thermo and fluid stuff.
I want to help build some of the physics up. Kinetic energy only makes sense within a given reference frame. I also know we are dealing with magic, but do you think time bubbles would violate conservation of energy somehow? Would photons blueshift or redshift if they enter or exit the bubble?
@@filthypete13 I believe they would blueshift, as the time bubble is essentially a sphere with less gravity on the inside. That is if we assume that the laws of relativity for space and time stay the same.
This is why DBZ characters have "fields" around them when they fly, they use their ki to deflect the air into a cone around them
@@filthypete13 A few fun points there.
With 'conventional' super speed, the inertial frame of reference is the stationary frame of the ground you and your opponent are standing on. You would be acceleraing in this reference frame, and your opponent could likely be modelled as a stationary target. For stuff like 'double your speed' (or even x10 or x100), the classical definition of kinetic energy is fine.
The time bubbles are a bit of fun to consider: They don't violate a conservation rule, and I think they are permitted under general relativity. The issue is they would require a local negative energy density, which GR permits but we never see in reality. If you were able to really conjure a time bubble, the light coming from it would blueshift to observers. Inside it, you would see the world redshifted.
This could become a mini series, talking about how impactful some powers can be in a fight or day to day.
Something that comes to my mind is the power to teleport or create portals. I don't see it often used offensively (i can only think of Dr Strange and that guy from Mob psycho sez 2) but it has a lot of offensive potential, depending on it's workings. You could just keep throwing cuts out of measure, for example, and create a portal in front of your sword and the other end to the enemy's back and/or to the side or just directly in their face to take them by surprise. And on that note, you could make a portal to intercept an attack from the enemy and open the other end behind them, making them hit themselves.
It could work even better with guns, create multiple portals, if the power allows it, and shoot at them, making it harder for the enemy to react.
Something else i thought about is create 2 portals somewhere, one above the other, and let something heavy and compact fall. It will gain a lot of velocity, depending on how long you let it be, since it will fall endlessly and later, in a fight, you can suddenly open a portal facing your enemy and connect it to the portal where the object falls. You will shoot a bullet of whatever size the object is and not a lot of people would expect that. Or something easier on this note: do the same think but with the enemy. Let them get some serious speed and just close the portals and let the enemy fall to death.
And there is the obvious utility, won't need to spend a dime on public transit or gas and you will never be late anywhere due to traffic. It could open up so many possibilities for the future, want to practice hema for example but there is no club nearby? Not a problem anymore.
Personally, if i were to choose any power to have in my life, i'd choose fire powers since i just like fire. But if i were to actually consider utility and not just my biased for fire then it will be opening portals. The amount of stuff you can do, both in a hypothetical fight and actual real life, is just too good imo, to the point of being broken.
Of course all of this heavily relies on the details of the power. An obvious strong nerf would be giving a significant casting time for the portals or limiting the range where you can open them and the number.
To whoever made it this far, i am surprised you had the patience to get through this ramble.
TMNT, 2003. One space war-commander want to build teleport. Why? Because it can teleport a nuke in the middle of enemy city. Or enemy spaceship. Or enemy planet. Unpredictable nuke, what it is.
The character Blink in Uncanny X-Men had this kind of teleportion ability. Even to the point of using constricting portals to cut enemies in half.
I knew this would be coming in the comments. I'd be Mr Fantastic if I could have any powers.
Phir Se from the webserial Worm has portals that send things back in time a bit (a few hours at most, I believe) as well as moving them through space. He does the "endless fall" trick with a few photons, except they come back before they left. After a couple of days he has a VERY big, single-shot flashlight.
Another minor character in a totally unimportant scene abuses a portal maker for both an impenetrable shield and to cheat range limitations for her own broken power. Oh, and for the perfect vantage point, much like a certain lucky Ta'veren from Wheel of Time.
(Bonus, WoT features a highly unconventional portal use that I didn't see in your list, but I won't spoil that one. Also, on the time topic, bigass magical lasers that hit so hard they retcon the target a bit. And Sanderson wrote the final book!)
In the TTRPG Traveler you are not encourage d to teleport far, becouse of planetary rotation. On the equator you move faster than at the 30°, so you need to compensateby ability or being tough.
“Za Warudo! Toki wo tomare!”
- Dio
The two most OP superpowers are: time control and mind control. Those allow you to do anything.
How about Probability manipulation? The ability to alter the success of any action caused by any living creature, from 0 to 100%.
That'd be something.
Why no add straight up reality manipulation.
@@Siphlex Ah yes, that thing Griffith has post Eclipse in Berserk. It’s broken as fuck.
boundary manipulation can also be super OP
someone already said this but yeah, reality manipulation, you're basically god
Skall just confirming that Zu Warudo is the strongest stand.
*Star Platinum has entered the chat*
@@bobfromjanitorial2 well, they are the same stand
Skall playing with his VFX again 😂
It must be terrifying to fight a chronomancer. One moment you’re holding your own, the next you suddenly have a dozen-or-so wounds you didn’t have before.
Watching and reading JJBA prepared me for this
11:20 From what I can deduce, a time manipulator that can phisically activate "bullet time" would disturb the non-manipulated air around themselves in such a way that their body - or rather the space they would move throug- could emit Cherenkov radiation.
Now THAT explains why time manipulation tends to be blue!
it's so much more painful than that th-cam.com/video/FTEDZQaEIts/w-d-xo.html. Also, Cherenkov radiation is caused by a photonic boom, which means moving faster than light in the medium of travel.
but imagine how cool it looks that the air glows blue while you Neoing the hell out of someone. :P
@@Citrakite Better, your color would blue/red shift if moving fast enough. Become the chameleon fighter!
Farscape: Time and Wormholes make incredible destructive weapons that no one should have
Yeah, Crichton made that point quite epically.
And lobbed some stellar plasma at some Scarrans. Nevermind the wormhole the wormhole thing he did.
@@leonpeters-malone3054 that Wormhole thing he did was epic, and should be remembered by more sci fi fans.
@@AncestorEmpireGaming More people should know Farscape in general.
The effects, the Creature Shop work, the characters. The absurdity.
That show I know a little too well too.
And let's not forget Season 3, Episode 16, Revenging Angel. That entire episode...
@@leonpeters-malone3054 that show brought me back to sci fi actually.
I loved it from beginning to end.
Cried at the series finale, before PK wars.
Oh, I had been watching it when i was a child. And rewatch now time to time:)) aus tv fictions are cool;))
dude. king crimson in jojo. takes time magic to a whole new level of mind bendery
One issue with making your time faster I could see, would be that from everyone else's view you'd be aging more quickly the more you use it. From your point of view you'd still live to let's say 80, but wouldn't really to spend that time with anyone else as you'd die long before your peers.
Could make for quite an interesting story. Just imagine falling in love with someone without that power, or worse try to have a family.
Exactly. This is often overlooked, but could be motivated if the powers allow the person to accelerate time as well. They would need to periodically accelerate time to since their "internal body clock" with the external clock
Mitigated*
Definitely. Which is why time-acceleration especially on yourself is extremely dangerous because you risk aging yourself to your own death or into dust. So unless you have the immunity against chronomancy yourself but you could still use it then time-acceleration on yourself is a good option but if not it is way too dangerous for yourself.
But use it against your opponent who was already in a bind an aging them to dust is a different story
So basically Dio vs jotaro if jotaro couldn’t stop time?
More like Dio vs basically any other opponent.
@@1810jeff more like every jojo villian vs anyone else
6:05 So basically what Emiya Kiritsugu does when he is backed into a corner.
Just what i was thinking about
Literally here after reading the poll... Almost missed this gem. Great work as always
This perspective is really interesting to me. I have recently been working on a story where one of the characters has a form super speed (it's more complex than that, but irrelevant) and his weekness is mind control. He is basically immune to both of the other superpowers (body control and environmental control) because his opponents can't react fast enough to fight him. He has a level of control against mind control, but it's only if he can slow time before they hit him, which is immensely difficult, since the mind works so incredibly fast.
Time stop would also stop all the air molecules, making it impossible for the timestopper to move unless they change states to become incorporeal or are so durable that their movements will power through that and cause destruction of everything around them with the heat they'll generate. Quite a fun ability.
That depends though on the specifics of how they stop or manipulate time. If they use magic, your response is mostly invalid, since magic and other abilities that use that have specialized conditions that usually warp reality or protect the user in some special way(like the speed force ). That explanation only really applies if the time controller uses a physics-based time control ability.
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Didn't I specifically speak about state change as a potential workaround...?
Sounds like a good badguy power
It depends on the stopping/manipulation of time. If simply stopping the opponents perception of time, then you can move while they can't. Additionally time is relative if you are simply moving at a different dimensional time then your opponent, they can't perceive you or stop you in any way.
If light can travel normally and collide with atoms then maybe it is possible. It is a phenomenon we can not test.
Time manipulation can mean different things, perception manipulation which will stop human or living creature perception or slow it down can give identical result. Mega ultra speed and perception would also result the same as literally slow everything down. Speed and time are in the same equation for a reason.
A literally time stop is very unlikely for a super power because if you isolate a sphere of space and time within the universe then the entire universe will be affected by it and the universe will affect the “time stop” area, it will require way more force to maintain even a small area of real time manipulation.
In a super power theme setting depend on the setting time power maybe overpowered or maybe not. Real time magic would bring severe consequences to the casters unless they can withstand the physical phenomenon created by the magic. In some stories the people who use that kind of power get severe backlash.
God. Don't remind me about how bad some writers use time magic. Like are you sure you couldn't have just experimented with fucking with momentum to kill your enemies?
being conscious about that kinda stuff leads to the best kind of magic imo. Like a character that can relatively lock or change momentum within a really small area. Or if chronomancy does exist but it's so mana intensive that you can only reliably pull it off via high end artifacts that are mostly used as stasis chambers for critical condition VIPs and such
Specially that dumb "fast but weak" thing, bullets are really small insignificant things that when shot, move so fast they become killing devices, if you move your fist at the speed of sound strength isn't an issue, like that shot in Invicible where Omni-man flies through a city so fast he creates ripples that destroy everything, idk if that's exactly how that works, but I at least know that at the very least someone like the Flash, who moves at the speed of light, would realistically punch with way more destructive force than superman or any other strong hero (unless they also move at the speed of light)
Exactly! F=m*a. Such a simple formula that seemingly goes over so many writers heads.
I don't care if your character is a 80 pound 15 y/o human or a 10,000 pound golem older than time; If they punch something at mach 10, that thing no longer exists.
@@nova5303 again, with AnnoyedLink's example - bullets. They're tiny but they move so fast that it only takes a few to kill. One if you hit the right spot. Of course the bigger the thing you're trying to hurt, the size of the object you're hitting with it begins to matter more and more (because you'll soon hit a cap with how fast you can make the impact), but when you can move 10-100x faster relative to your opponent that will still matter very little if at all
People in these replies:
Force is mass multiplied by acceleration, so fast moving things are more powerful!
Me (not) an intellectual:
Acceleration and velocity are two different things.
Skall swinging a sword around while looking at his phone has got to be a new meme.
Cheers!
Reverse flash admits to “I went back in time and replicated his transformation, and it worked!” When explaining to Barry how he came to hate him so much. So I’m a way you’re exactly correct, the correlation between speed and time are nearly direct as speed is acceleration and direction of matter at its most basic fundamental form.
Chormomancy! is always good!
Strongersest creatures from d&d are Time dragons afterall
Nerd😋
To think that I've just read "hormonomancy", which is pretty popular these days....
You mean chronomancy?
Chronomancy
@@SuperPresidentBeefbroth yush
Skall: imagine if you can manipulate time by a factor of 2.
Me (with Kotomine Kirei's voice): Emiya Kiritsugu.
This reminds me of "THE DRILLLLL" move from that Highlander movie.
Given the way these channels inspire each other, I'm guessing Shadiversity's next video: Best weapons for Superfast Time-Magic Ninjas? Fantasy Rearmed
There is some difference between speed causing time-manipulation or just having time-manipulation:
If you only have the later than running long distances will require you to make frequent stops to drink, eat and sleep - even if you were a superb runner, running just coast-to-coast of the US (roughly 4 000 km) would take you over 200 hours of running (that is marathon-professional pace), so while someone like the flash can do that in a split second, a "normal" human would easily age >20 days.
But in a fight you don't need that. Just slow time as much as you can, destroy your enemy in seconds, done.
11:40
If time magic generates extra kinetic energy, then any movement would instantly kill the time magic caster in an atmosphere. Cause they'd be accelerating into air molecules at light speed or faster than light speed, which would generate infinite kinetic energy and infinite heat.
Depending on exactly how energy transfer would work in this case, the time magic caster would either vaporize, or experience his body being penetrated by said air molecules, as if he had just walked into a body sized particle accelerator beam.
Depends on what the time slowing factor is. Humans can survive speeds in air of more than 800 km/h without equipement and more than the speed of sound with equipement. Compared to the fastest human motions (throwing balls) at 170 km/h this is a speed increase by a factor of almost 5 without equipement and more with it. Those factors are already quite large. Assuming you are only running you still could go up to those speeds and multiply the maximum running speed by a factor of 20.
The real question is what happens with a time stop.
Right, that would have the same effect as super speed without protection by the Speedforce or some other thingamajig. So I guess we'd have to assume that when phasing from one rate of time progression to another it's like going from one dimension to another, where energy doesn't transfer directly.
@@Skallagrim That, or time slow magic would work on some square law, where time slows down based on distance from caster
For an example, each cm away from the casters body = the time rate slows by half
2 cm out, time is now 1/4, then 1/8 and so on.
That way, the caster would be able to breathe and move normally, in reality, while slowing down everything else.
It would also make it hella scary to die by stabbing that way, cause as you move close to your enemy, their time slowly speeds up, bringing awareness with it, just as they die from being stabbed from half a meters distance or so.
@@lukasdimmler2622 My description of events was based on time stop, or close to infinitely slowed.
@@hs0003 In that case you are right, there would be interesting problems. If you stop time completely around yourself, the force carriers of the four fundamental interactions between particles would also stop, making it possible to move between them without interaction (one would just have to find an explanation with the typical science-buzzwords why your body isn't affected). There are problems in this case:
-You can't sense the world around your bubble since there are no interactions between the rest of the universe and your bubble.
-You would have to return to the same spot you started from to avoid getting air in your blood stream because you moved into air molecules.
-You would have to deal with all the energy you converted in this time and bring all the air, food and water you need into your "bubble". If you would for example keep yourself in a bubble for one day you would convert roughly 20kg of air and 1kg food each into 2 kg of CO2 and 19 kg of air with less oxygen, but you would also produce roughly 8.64 MJ of energy. For anyone outside your bubble this conversion would happen instantly and therefore have an explosive effect.
-If you move into significantly dense material by some means you would also explode instantly because the fundamental forces see you now and you see them => energetic reactions.
Another David Gammell fan? Brings back so many memories he was the first author I got into as a hobby in my teens. Druss the Legend I still remember.
Imagine having rewind ability but you cant rewind far enough to dodge the attack and you just keep trying and trying over and over again.
0:31 is just the scene from fullmetal alchemist brotherhood where Bradley walks up to the roof and slaughters a dozen of Buccaneers men lmao
6:05 is also exactly how kiritsugus time alter magic works in fate zero
Glad to see someone appreciate/talk about some of the most interesting superpowers’ applications!
Loved the video! Especially the fun sketch at the beginning. Entertaining AND perfectly set the stage for the topic of the video. Many thanks Skall!
Scenery IS gorgeous, and the video was really interesting ... thanks Skal. I really enjoyed that!!!
Invincible spoilers below
Skall: Uses a meme from a character whose pecs were so strong, they broke the speedsters fists.
That said, if Red Rush used his speed for support, getting team mates out of harms way, like he did with Imortal at the beginning, they could have won against Omniman
Well, he actually was doing that when Omni was attacking this rip off wonder woman, if you watch this scene closely you can see how he was deflecting omnis strikes.
Also, Omni man was extremally fast as well, but not as fast as speedster.
Another example in Invicible is properly used teleportation, with which you can be untouchable as well (unless you deal with someone with speed of speedster)
Invicible is not another super hero show... it's a good superhero show.
@@michasokoowski6651 she represents the angel girl from justice league not wander women.
@@thera2245 She has a mace like Hawk Girl, but her role is much more like Wonder Woman. And Wonder Woman is the more well known main member of JL too.
@@thera2245 I would say that she is a mix of them, just like this green spirit is a mix of green lantern and avatar of Constatnite's house
They almost won against Omniman, if they knew beforehand his intentions and had a few minutes to organize they could have beat him.
In Teen Titans Go Robin has a running race against Kid Flash and he gets beaten over and over again but then at the last race Robin decides to cheat and he hit's Kid Flash in the shins with his staff and it knock him out of the race and Robin win.
So therefore Robin would have had to travel faster than Kid Flash to hit him in The Shins to be given with.
And then Kid Flash did the same as the Reverse Flash and took revenge on Robin making him think he came early when making out with Starfire
@@zakazany1945 "Remember when you were making out with Koriandrr and you finished right as she touched your leg? It was ME, Richard!"
@Darksun arts have you seen the dorkly video on a similar thing with the flash and Superman
Also nice pfp
@@whatno774 the one where there racing each other in the Justice League movie I haven't watched it I'm not into the DC movies or Marvel that much anymore .
I didn't see the words "Teen Titans Go" at the beginning. I'm a big fan of the Flash and my name is Robin, so had a minor heart attack there whoops
Absolutely love the newer videos with the skits, keeps things fresh and entertaining. Good work!
The effort in these videos recently. Thanks for giving me something fun to watch on my lunch break!
There is another problem with super speed, the regular air as a parasite resistence, and the air that you breath. Saddly the humans can't breath in highess velocities.
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basically how Fate/Zero works for the main character Kiritsugu Emiya Magus Killer having its ability
using modernize weapons hunting the Magus on the hit list
and he can contorl the ability to react faster 2~6 time than normal people
but that costs heavily load for his heart
He is a rather normal dude and his time magic allows him to keep up with sentient psychic liquid and a super strengthed terminator. (he would be so overpowered against normal people) And it puts a strain on his heart. He is a good example of time magic yeah!
@@HotDogTimeMachine385
Sneaky
You forgot sneaky
Emiya is a sneaky guy
Will literally blow up a whole hotel building blocks
Just to kill his target
For just winning the holy grail
Another example of a movie is come form a Japanese movie returner
Using similar power via watch size machine by the main character
I've never seen a single video of yours, and this community post randomly popped up in my feed. Decided to give it a watch, and it's a really good video.
Thank you for making the Community Post about this Video, i really enjoyed it and it really is a pitty that i just didnt get any Notification that it existed.
In the Runelords series, there is "metabolism" Rune. Pros/Cons You live shorter in real years, but the perceived length of the day will stretch. So it would be possible to think of a night to last months. Even using that speed to run or react you would need strength and your bones do not get stronger so you can still be too strong and fast for your own body.
The Runelords had a great magic system.
David Farland I believe. Great series.
I loved that series. Farland tried so hard to add some realism to his magic.
Another author had something like that with one type of magic user, it had nothing to do with runes but they were able to channel and allow them to perceive at a high rate, increase strength and other aspects of them selves at the cost of their life shortening or individual parts worsening quicker such as eye sight. They were also able to connect their "soul" to every other person of their kind throughout history allowing them to travel through time.
Yeeeeeaaaaa, chronomancy is OP as all balls.
@Deserve Not Desire You age faster... unless your time manipulation abilities are so OP you can just reverse your aging.
@@Vanzgars That means you can eat your cake as many times as you want.
Finally got a chance to watch this. Work has decided that my enjoyment of life isn't on the menu so I've been really busy. I really liked how you showcased concepts in editing, really helps visualize what you're up against. It reminded me of the Nightcrawler scene in X-Men 2 where he attacks the president. Seeing those ideas made into a visual reality totally blew my mind on how to think about teleportation.
Awesome video!
Great vid! After watching your to most popular videos j wanted to see your newest and I gotta say
1. Love the ocean backdrop! Good idea
2. Great talking points
3.great editing! AND skills when it comes to fighting
I really want that bat shirt.
There are a few things everyone forgets for some reason when talking about super speed, that would create some interesting consequences.
To run we humans apply force down on the ground through our legs, so the ground pushes us UP cause of Newton's third law, but the gravity constantly pushes us DOWN, that's why we don't fly into space when we take a step, and then we just "swing" on our legs with the help of friction. When talking about super speed, to propel yourself at such extreme velocities you'd have to apply A LOT of force, to push UP of the ground, which means at a certaing point, your Running will turn into Jumping, as extreme forces you push off with fight gravity. Launching yourself many meters above ground would greatly affect precision of your movement as you'd be overshooting your mark or smashing into terrain or even birds, being unable to control your movement while in the air. And if we talking relativistic speeds, gravity doesn't even matter, you'd just yeet yourself into cosmos the second you move.
Another problem arises from the same Newton's law. When you stomp the ground with billions of newtons of force, it won't take it easily. Every step of yours would create an explosion under your feet, every time you tried to slow down, you'd dig a tunnel through the ground (or more likely start tumbling uncontrollably, as your inertia would just tip you over). And if you crush into something - ... Here is a simulation video of a 5.56 round hitting a block of solid steel at 10 km/s th-cam.com/video/7v5L-JSVpM8/w-d-xo.html . It weighs 4 grams. Average human weighs 15000 times that.
Also you'd create devastating shockwaves of air. So far rather than superhero you'd be either an astronaut or a terrorist.
About time powers: i think super speed and slowing down time are effectivly the same thing from physics point of view, as Velocity = distance/time. If your hypothetical measure of time is 10 times shorter then normal, your velocity just increased 10 times, which is literally the same effect as the super speed.
Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, i am no expert or scientist, just laying out my thoughts.
For reasonable speeds you could apply many solutions already used today like spoilers, airbreaks, parachutes and so on. But as soon as you can apply these forces on the ground or the air the forces also apply to you and would destroy any human.
At ridiculous speeds you would have to find ways to not wreck the environment and not take of. One way would be to speed up initially and then apply force tangentially to get around curves. Using a technique which doesn't use the frition generated by the gravitational force to move would also be useful. At these high speeds you basically become a hybrid between a hypersonic plane and someone in microgravity. You would probably either use the air as medium to apply force or climb like an astronaut.
We can't really look at super speed and slowing time the same way, though, as the distance/time _isn't_ the same. In the object's local reference frame - IE, your accelerated time - it's moving at the same distance/time as without a super power, so it would have the same momentum and kinetic energy. This is fundamentally different than superspeed, which operates without a special reference frame.
Also importantly, you would need to generate all the force with superspeed to accelerate an object to that speed, including your own body, as you noted. With With freezing time, your body or anything you carry is moving no faster than it usually does without the power.
This is exactly why they had to create "speed force" I think. Its a way to make a living thing move at these speeds without destroying themselves and the environment. With real physics you are not saving anyone at super-speed, you are tearing them apart as you try to get them out of the way of the oncoming truck.
But with "speed force" you move super fast and yadda yadda yadda time moves different something something pocket dimension ehmm quantum mechanics? ... and now you can be a speedster.
@@RicardoMoralesMassin Wouldn't it be far more fun to have a speedster that is actually capable of these feats without the "magic"?
How would one construct them?
-Superhumanly strong musculature.
-Extremely high metabolic rate (hook them up to constant food and water supply and a oxygen tank so they have some stamina, and maybe include some kind waste catching device).
-High heat rejection (basically able to sweat steam).
-High durability of body parts.
-Extremely fast reflexes.
-Very fast thinking and decision-making.
-Good training and dexterity.
Depending on how far you take it you could probably construct a speedster capable of 5-10 times regular speed without breaking physics at all. These speeds would be enough to dodge bullets and race cars and trains. Much higher speeds also never really were properly portrayed as most people lack the knowledge/everyday experience of what would happen at hypersonic, interstellar and relativistic speeds.
@@RicardoMoralesMassin That's a good summary, I think. There are so many problems when you stop and think about someone moving at enormous speed (where does all that kinetic energy come from? what if you run off a long straight ramp? what if you hit a really clear pane of glass that a villain has put in your path? wouldn't it be really boring to run from coast to coast?). In the Silver Age, some of the problems were hand-waved with an "aura" that the Flash had to protect him, but I think that by the '80s the writers realized that they needed a more comprehensive "get out of known physics" card and came up with the Speed Force.
I actually like this style xD Your creativity is improving!
I’m commenting just after I watched that high production value intro
That was so fun to watch
If you really want to see just how overpowered speed/time manipulation can be, just play any Dishonoured and invest in blink and time bend. It's quite the power trip and great video as always skall
Blink (space control) and time bend essentially make you a space-time god.
Hell, there is a Shout in skyrim that lets you freeze time for a short while, and its busted as hell too. I remember during the imperial war campaign, in the final fight I just used the shout once, ran into the camp alone, killed all like 30 soldiers and the fight was over. lol.
Or watch the Patry vs Julius fight in the anime Black Clover: Patry has super-speed thanks to his magic being light magic, while Julius has time magic.
I got the same conclusion,playing Fable, I aways used twohanded heavy weapons until try the time spell and se that with a one handed weapon , agility and slow time no one could touch me, its like a killer instinct combo.
Coming here to watch the vid after reading your post about low views, didn’t regret taking the time! Impressive work on the editing, I had to comment for the YT algorithm :) Keep up Skall!
Loved this, Skall (or Mr. Grim)... glad you posted that poll and question or I would have missed this great video.
A speedster would make mini sonic booms every time they used their power. The crack of a whip is the sound of a mini sonic boom. There's no way they'd be stealthy. Didn't they have to retconn Flash’s powers into a "force" that envelopes him and anyone he touches? Because someone traveling at supersonic, not to mention relativistic, speeds wouldn't "catch you" and bring you to safety a la X-Men's Quicksilver. It would be nothing but A-Train and Robin all the time.
Yes, the Flash gets his power from the Speed Force, which is a dimension that connects all of space and time. That's what gives him and the people he's saving an aura that protects them from the extreme heat, friction and G-force. Which would otherwise kill them in an instant, including nearby bystanders.
So basically...
*TIME ALTER: HEX ACCEL*
Time alter does have limitations that makes it just okay in universe. In the real world? Fuckin op man
just the intro and you can see the hours of work put into this video, your awesome man keep improving
Voted in the poll yesterday to say 'this hadn't shown up in my feed' And here it is now. Great video.
I've been writing an urban fantasy novel for a few years and one of my characters has the abilities of Bullet Time (think the game Super Hot), slowed aging and increased healing (the last two are hereditary).
He got so good in combat that he was given the name "the untouchable man," for obvious reasons.
When he meditates or sleeps, he needs a pocket watch to recalibrate himself with the "true time."
He's insanely overpowered, even with his weapon, which is a Tachi with a disarming hook on the back and quillions on the tsuba.
Out of interest, how do you plan on incorporating him into the story? With someone that powerful around, it would probably be difficult to have them featured too heavily.
@@cosmoreverb3943
Is really a person brought up in one of character's backstory. The one in question, through a mix of strategy and luck, managed to kill the 'untouchable man,' and took his sword and pocketwatch, one as proof of the victory and the other as a personal token.
The one who killed him could short distance teleport... and was related to the one with bullet time; its a long story.
Okay, you had me at urban fantasy. I'll buy it once it's published!
May I ask for your social media or where the novel is posted?
@@cesar6004
I stay off of Facebook out of habit, my personal Twitter: @Working_MindXP
But if you'd like to see what a couple of my characters can do out if my book, I Roleplay on Twitter under @Neow_the_Mute (adorable mute character that likes hugs) and @Bad_Black_Kitty (badass neko with a lot blades and anger issues)
I don't advertise my writing much, unless it's relevant to the topic
I do have vol 1 of 3 on a Google doc, but with all the other things I've been doing, I haven't touched that once for a couple years now with all other stuff I've been doing. The first quart of the thing needs a lot of editing/ rewriting.
It's in the last half of it where the "man kills the Untouchable Man," thing is brought up in conversation by the one who did it.... if that's what you're looking for
"I control the very flow of time! Who are YOU to think you can defeat ME!?"
"I ate the gum gum fruit and now I'm a rubber person."
:BODIED:
Silver Fox Foxy. His use of the noro photon was a limited form of time control.
He still got creamed by monkey D Luffy in the end.
Hot damn, this must have taken forever to edit! Thanks for the hard work. Loving the content as always.
Another well done video about a compelling and fun topic! Thanks, Skall!
I wish we could get full episodes of these skits. This is so awesome.
Legit I think I'm so dumb I'd probably forget what my opponent was doing in the last 5 seconds or so and still get blasted by the attack.
You're doing awesome man, loving the locations too
Thanks for the departure from reality and its physical laws and limitations.
Great editing skills, by the way. Very impressive effort.
Honey any MTG player could've told you time magic is OP.
I think you can also play with the interacting between gravity messing with time, so a spellcaster that can manipulate time is in fact manipulating how the gravity acts. In the bubble example the bubble itself is not manipulating time, it’s curving the gravitational force around it that distort time.
That way you can have both DC speedsters powers, distorting time and super kinetic energy.
Thanks for the vid as usual Skall! Your effort is appreciated, and your content is loved! Like to see these high effort, fun discussion topics
The editing is really well done. You've come far, Skall
vector manipulation is probably up there with time manipulation in cool powers that can easily just invalidate everything. Always a toss up when the whole what super power would you want if you could have it, though vector manipulation tends to win out on the "drawback" games where something like time manipulation is usually easier to find some kind of drawback to.
What about high level precognition that just tells you how to win?
Vector manipulation. Accelerator 1st rank of academy city
8:00 - Geras from MK11 does this & it's super scary to fight against
I selected "haven't had time to watch it" on your poll, but I was sitting on some time and decided to hop on😊 don't be discouraged. Such is the ebb and flow of life. Good work on the video! Such an interesting and thought provoking topic. Far out of the scope of my ignorant mind😂 keep up the good work!
Good thing you made that poll. This video was great 👍
These intro skits kinda remind me of the early days of TH-cam when video editing started to take off.
As much as I love to imagine awesome and cinematic fights where someone with such powers just absolutely decimates everyone in their path, it’d simply wouldn’t make a good character since there’d be no flaw. The only way to basically nurf such a powerful power is to have it cause massive strain to use. Where the person could reach the point of dying if they tried to stop time or something. Always loved the concepts of being so fast, that time relative to you slows down. Nice vid 👍🏻
Structural integrity compromise. Sure you can move fast, but congratulations, you just tried to swing a sword so hard you fractured your radius and ulna before your hand even started moving.
Or two or more characters having such similar time-based powers fighting each other but the plot would be more focused on the consequences of using said powers
Seems like you're finally beginning to understand that you don't have to be so serious in videos and to not take stupid trolls to heart and just have fun and be creative while still talking about/doing what you love on your channel!😁😄 love what you do Skall been watching for a long time!
The effects in this video are next level! Great job!
Thanks!
The reason there are two Skalls is because one time traveled.
skall having lots of fun with his green screen I see.
That natural background improved my enjoyment of the video dramatically! I'd say screw the green screen whenever possible. You live in such a picturesque place, I'll never get tired of seeing it.
Bro this video slaps. I’m glad you put the poll up