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Why Non -AC Vande Bharat Express is a TERRIBLE Idea !
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In an effort to provide comfortable and affordable journey to common passengers, the Indian Railways said it soon introduce non-AC Vande Sadharan train with Sleeper and General facility. As per the latest updates, the non-AC Vande Sadharan trains will be manufactured at ICF Chennai at an estimated cost of Rs 65 crore and the first rake is expected to be rolled out by this year-end.The Indian Railways said that the first Vande Sadharan train rake is expected to be rolled out by the end of this year. On the other hand, the fully AC Vande Bharat train, featuring seating arrangements, is being manufactured at ICF, costing approximately Rs 100 crore.
Reports suggest that the Vande Sadharan train will have 24 LHB coaches and two locomotives at both the front and rear ends to ensure efficient acceleration. The train’s acceleration rate will be enhanced by utilizing the push-pull method with two locomotives.
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Mass production of AC vande Bharat is the way to go to bring down price.
But operating cost will be high bro
it will only bring down purchasing cost and not operating cost
How are the traditional non ac trains inferior to vande sadharan? What will we do with large number of old non-ac rakes we already have?
@@arjunvn5679 money goes to coal and power sectors and also Air conditioning factories. if we are building massive solar and nuclear plants who's going to use them? and compared to EV power spike this is nothing. more spending = more jobs = more spending power.
now more better solution is to increase efficiency with inverter ACs. more or less its equal to fans. imagine 30 fans per coach vs 10 ton AC coach after initial cooling it will work at 30% capacity
Nahi AC ka kharcha baki ka saara maintenance to lagega he aur train hai bhai khillona nahi to aaye aur mass production kar diye
I travelled in Vande Bharat Express from Mumbai to Ahmedabad and trust me, the whole train was almost occupied initially in Mumbai.
That too from Borivali
ALMOST* that's the key word....
IR officials are out of their minds. Vande Bharat was introduced as a premium semi-highspeed train with a top speed of 180 kph. But till now it failed to achieve an average speed of even 100 kph. Instead of moving up the ladder this train is being relegated to the level of a medium distance local EMU. Sad! Very sad!
I prefer shatabdi as it's more affordable
I read somewhere that vande sadharan wouldn’t even be emu. It would be in push pull configuration by traditional locomotives. So other than just giving it catchy name it’s definitely a step back.
@@SiddharthRaiyanithat's better. Lesser operating costs to correspond to the lesser ticket price
@@casnub5484 that would make it a traditional train with a catchy name with speed much lesser than 130kmph since its non ac. It wont even have acceleration of emus.
@@SiddharthRaiyani So many Non ACs run at 130 that too 21-22 of those LHB coaches speed ultimately depends on route, any LHB take can easily do 130. That's fine. Low cost trains don't have to use a full fledged trainset especially in India since every penny has to be used practically.
The routes where VBs are running at 130, even Intercity Express and Superfasts are running at 130 km/h. There's no point for an EMU Vande Sadharan. Some bloke asks what about the poor people and the ministry came up with a quick fix solution. Even the naming isn't needed.
5:10 Correct! AC should be considered a necessity not a luxury! 👏🙏🇮🇳 Jai Hind!
Regressive socialist mindset that poor people do not deserve AC.
Indians don't think about to improve their living standard.
But air conditioning comes at a massive environmental cost. We are already suffering from air pollution. Running AC coaches requires us to burn massive amounts of diesel worsening this issue. Some other idea of better ventilation should be implemented.
@@ShantanuDeshmukh88 Why should AC coaches required to burn massive amounts of diesel,When it runs on electricity. First You should Google Head On Generation (HOG).
When all other countries has made there trains fully AC including China has done it with similar population only when India try to make there train all AC suddenly environment is in danger.
@@susangomes9373 Ac run on electricity but most of the electricity generated by burning coal , even if ac coach does use there own electricity , it still cause cfc gases , and cause climate change
Even VB without having a double track is a terrible idea. VB should run on dedicated tracks to realise its full potential. More VB on existing routes will slow down other trains.
Absoulty correct
That's because of priority system and saturation of existing lines. These problems need to be addressed first instead of using quick fix ideas like dedicated lines. A dedicated line becomes a necessity for True HSR not vande bharat. Also a route that sees 2 vande bharats in each direction for the entire day doesn't need it's own line. It's just too expensive
Horrible schedule of trains nowadays
we should also add extra tracks on existing lines in mission mode after we electrify the tracks 100%, this will increase the speed, reduce the waiting time for shunting and save a lot of operational expenditure. China has 4 or 6 tracks to its most of lines while we just have 2. This will also increase the bargaining power of IR for freight customers if IR can serve them faster. also it will bring a lot of goods moving on roads, reducing NH congestion and accidents, saving dollars in petrol imports, reducing logistical cost, boost export ecosystem. reduce Odisha like accidents.
Excellent idea but distant idea. let's see if we can achieve doubling on some of the busiest routes first and when.
@@aarambhsharma2295doubling is done quadrupling is ON but it is too slow
@@LHRTWthey need to automate and standardise the track laying process for quicker process. We still in british era tech when it comes to the speed for increasing track route. Look at he speed in china for comparison.
@@SiddharthRaiyanicheck track laying on DFC, cutting edge technology used.
@@ajaypathak911 that isn't used every where by indian railway.
I agree that this is a terrible idea. It is like taking a step forward and then again 2 steps backwards.
Sorry for you steps genaral public can't pay 😂😂 they need better trains than local trains in cheaper price you can ride on vande Bharat it will a different segment
IR can introduce double decker ac vande bharat to accommodate more people and also increase coaches from 16 to 24 and reduce cost so non ac vande bharat can be avoided.
Considering air drag... Non AC Vande Bharat is a terrible idea...
Yeah totally agree .....we want to ride comfortably we don't want some people coming and asking us for money
Running 8 coach set EMUs upto 120 kmph will be a wiser option.
@@fatmanfrommillennium7369 Air drag increase exponentially with speed... Thus very big no to open door train...
@@ckdas108true
Aerodynamics play role only after the speed exceeds 220km/h.
We should introduce ac general coaches
Yeah but not in UP&bihar and eastern india
@@starship3812 but why
@@starship3812🤣🤣🤣 Im from East (Kolkata) but i know what u mean 🤣🤣🤣🤣 cant stop laughing
Air Conditioning depends upon numbers of occupants.
Underutilized and overutilized AC coaches are non-economical.
Better remove general class and travelling without tickets along with open doors.
Vande Bharat is not only symbolic for indigenous manufacturing but also for speed.
Non AC rakes will compromise with speed due to air drag issues.
We can make MEMU for passengers but let us not call it Vande Sadharan or strange names.
Government never fails to disappoint us. 😂😂
Leftists were crying for cheaper train tickets.
💯% agree
😂😂
U are stupid
Its due to the bad criticism of govt on this issue !!
Blaming govt does nit makes u intelligent!! Blame the bad and not the good !!
Opposite try to show that vande bharat is not for normal people and try to politicise it
Have some sense on how voter caste vote , u are living in a democracy
@@pmssmp5876read my comment
i think TOP MOST priority for IR SHOULD BE to reduce travel time and include all the passengers who end up cancelling their tickets due to non confirmation, its a loss to both railway and customers adding to the misery of both, we should focus on how we can add extra boogies on demand and ensure ticket to all willing passengers and we must increase the length of old platforms to support extra boggies. @PT please correct me if I am wrong.
Cancellation of tickets is actually a revenue source for IR. They deliberately keep it that way
You are right dude
Agree with your pov
Vande Bharat reservations should be like Janshatabdi. Opening a week before departure date. That will help provide guaranteed seats to travellers at short notice.
@@MrAnshulji aisa hi to hota hai
@@i_can_be_a_superhero9847 I am able to book BSP NGP VB for 27 July.
Japaan launched first high speed train at 210kmph in 1964...and here we are after 50 years we are praising 120kmph trains and government is building non ac trains again...where are we progressing 😢
We need free rides, free electricity, free minimum salary and free minimum facilities so that everyone can live with dignity. We do not need these show-off trains.
@@YASHWANTH25691 to bhikari ban ke raho kaaye koi develop country banana hai fir government jobs ka obsession hi india ko aage badhne nahi de rha hai
@@YASHWANTH25691 are you being sarcastic or you really know what you're talking about?
Why don't you ask Rahul Gandhi about that 40 years they didn't do shit in 9 years we got an good upgrade next 10 years we will be at the same level or close.
@@YASHWANTH25691who's gonna pay for that .or who's gonna pay for you fat as.s 😂😂 actually what you talk about is universal income and will be applied ones everything is run by robots and ai so around 50 years letter maybe
if you bring down prices, you can cater more people, eventually the net income will be probably the same because trains will be more packed. design the trains in way that it can carry more passengers. double decker trains are a good option just like in europe.
Non-ac wali vande bharat train ki koi zarurat nahi.
Zarurat hai ton ac wali vande bharat train, that's it.
Ha Bhai lekin kitna politics ho rha hai ki ye ameero ki train hai. isse government ko majburan ye krna pad rha hai
It is necessary to introduce non AC vande bharat( Most backward class people are travel by train ,they can not afford AC)
@@shivasrivastava2596 Politics is pulling India down honestly and on the other end China is building high speed rail at a speedy pace.
As you said railway should work on following instead of making non-AC vande Bharat:
1. More efficient air circulation or air conditioning tech to save money.
2. Increase seat capacity in AC coaches in both seating and sleeper.
3. Decrease facilities in coaches than 2nd AC.
4. More effective ticketing system like dynamic pricing. If you book ticket long before you have to pay little more than SL.
5. Instead of vande sadharan IR can run more Antyoday expresses for reduced passenger load.
6. Pricing should not be more than 20-30% of SL class and IR should compensate this pricing from other areas.
7. IR should find solutions for lower maintenance of these coaches. Solutions like mass producing and simple design.
8. Tracks should be upgraded. If a train takes 70% of its previous time to cover a certain distance cost will automatically reduce for AC and pricing will also be more rational.
Rich pay way more taxes than others, then why shouldn't their needs be kept in mind?
It is like punishing success. The needs of the rich need to be kept in mind, too. Socialism is a disease.
Rich are the only ones who pay tax in India
If goverment want to make AC travel (Vande Bharat) as necessity, then they need to decrease cost.
Nothing else
Oh if they decrease cost income for avg Indian will triple to afford it right 😂😂 check avg income of Indians than you will understand why this video is dumb and vande sadharan is important
Totally agree with you on this video. The thing is we have to scale up to international standards and not downscale.
Sorry Indian people don't earn by your " International standards" like how close minded can you people be have you seen the avg income for Indians .
Dynamic pricing hatana chahiye at least on advance booking or (whatever criteria they want to decide)
I really liked the subtle way you have put in your thoughts, yes it's true that if something is luxury or not is temporary, and yes we need to think about 30 years ahead when we will be developed
In India, poverty is celebrated instead of improving the overall standard of living. India's per capita income growth in real terms is so slow that AC is still viewed as luxury in India considering we are a tropical country.
Good analysis. Vande Bharat Express should be only AC trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi Express trains. Government may think of increasing the number of Gareeb Rath trains and also increase the general passenger trains for common public that use General class to travel. Also, increasing the number of tracks is the only long-term solution.
Ohh so "gareeb " people don't deserve vande sadharan 😂😂 seriously it hard to digest Indian people these days have this type of mindset government is doing something for genaral public but you are having problems with that why ?? You got you vande Bharat did they protest they can't afford it but they appreciated didn't they ? Than when they are getting a cheaper less comfortable more affordable vande "SADHARAN" for them why are you mind fuked ??
I know this might sound stupid, But instead of introducing non-Ac-The railways should reduced the number of toilets from 4 to 2 and increase the sitting capacity with reduced leg space and the seating configuration should be like of the Jan shatabdi express.
Than what 1,500 comes down to 1,200 doesn't make a difference for the poor 😂😂 they can't afford 700
@@ind-rishiyt1600 Who said price have to very high for necessity,It should be very reasonable price for lower strata people.If Indian government can give Free electricity ,5 rupee rice ,Low price medical treatment than it can also make reasonable price Fully AC general compartment or fully AC Mumbai local. It is about political will.
@@ind-rishiyt1600 in next 30 year 1500 will not matter much.
This simply means , people aren't eager to pay flight rates for Vande Bharat journey.
No this means genral public just can't afford it plain and simple even if the price came down from 1500 to 1200 they still can't afford it
I think it will not only be non AC but they will reduce other facilities too like wide leg room, downgraded seats, food etc..
Can you imagine keeping windows open at 130 km speed? Wind blowing through window will be unbearable.
also it's unsafe. a single particle at 100KMPH can hurt very badly.
Instead of making non ac vande bharat express they should maintain the non ac coach quantity or introduced Dedicated normal non ac trains like antodaya express which will 10-12sleeper coaches and 6-7general and 1-2 3Ac becoz there is no sense of making non ac vande bharat becoz non ac trains already can't run in higher speed or more then 130kmph
Its kinda similar to TATA releasing a 0 star NCAP version of its same 5 star NCAP version car to sell at cheaper price
Sahi keh rahe ho … yesterday’s luxury is today’s necessity…
AC should be basic provision in any coach such as metro coaches !!!
Yes indeed....
Vande Bharat signifies a premium...
Using that same name for "Sadharan" is not good...
Make the train facilities better in regular trains..
Educate people more to not misuse the facilities
i think non-AC Vande Bharat trains is a bad idea. With the newly built Dedicated Freight Corridors (DFC), income to railways from the more-profitable goods transport sector is going to increase rapidly. With a fast growing Indian economy, this income growth will accelerate further. It is therefore highly possible for the goods sector of the railways to subsidise and bear some of the losses of the passenger sector in terms of lower ticket prices that poorer people can afford to pay for AC Vande Bharat trains. It is very important for all sections of Indian society to enjoy the same essential features of Vannde Bharat trains.
The thumbnail 💀
They should rearrange seating arrangements rather then converting into non AC versions for affordable tickets price
What affordable 1500 to 1200 😂😂 doesn't make a difference for the poor
@@ind-rishiyt1600 listen in tropical countries luke india AC is not luxury but necessity, we should be targeting for 100% AC services in public transport with same price of for example recently launched AC city buses in jaipur have same prices as non AC buses, so why not applying same principles on trains???
Public transportation should aim for facilities not for profits, in past years indian railway always try to provide facilities for passengers trains not for profits they always earned profits from fright train services, even if tehy want to increase prices it should be around 110% to 150%
is operating coach with 72fans is cheaper than AC coach with 3 AC? I want to know how much difference in operating cost of both type of coach? Please help me if anybody knows
10% higher electricity usage for ac coaches. But ofc maintenance and upfront cost would be higher for ac coach. Ticket prices are difficult cause non ac are heavily subsidised while 3rd ac is the only profitable class in railway.if you remove some subsidy from non ac and decrease ac ticket prices then the difference could be decreased much.
@@SiddharthRaiyani we operate economy ac class where temperature could be around 25 26 so that it uses less electricity? So that we can match ticket price with sleeper (may be little higer that sleeper )
Also AC coach might give better aerodynamic benifits because of closed windows and reduce air drag
@@ashiqdey nice suggestion but with more people generating heat ac with 24 degree max would still be needed. Still could save much electricity. But operating cost isn't even that much higher in the first place. Railway could decrease 3rd ac cost if they ditch the mentality that ac is luxury.
I dont understand, why dosent india just set new standards and keep ot the same for every train! Regardless of the route. Sleeper and seating should be the only difference. We dont need 2A/1A. Just give 3A to everyone and seatinf for everyone with AC. And charging ports and a good washroom! How hard thay can be. People can opt whether they want food or not and keep strict cleaniness standards as they do for metros! Put mkre and more advertisement and sponspored products to increase the profits! Substitute the electricity generation part to get cheaper and cheaper electricity to reduce the upfornt cost. And I am pretty sure railwyas with make decent among of profits or atleast break even. it isnt thag difficult. Indian railways lack vision. I think standardised high speed trains (with capacity to reach international speeds) should be the first step and then replacement of railway tracks to high speed ones should be the second step. The main goal should be to reduce the time taken and the cost making it as affordable as possible.
4:36 wrong info it's going to use wap-5 as a loco by push & pull method not EMU and LHB coaches will modified.
Rather than doing these non AC trains, the government should standardize to scale up manufacturing. That will reduce the price.
If Indian Railway introduces ac train in the fare of non ac trains which are already highly subsidised then majority of the ac passengers will move to low cost ac coaches with less facilities. Because in a poor country like India most of the people will be trying to have lower cost rather than good facilities like reclinable seats, vaccum toilets etc. Ultimately passengers from high fare segment will decrease and subsidised ticket passanger will increase which will further increase Indian railways' losses.
Railway is a government body it doesn't mean to run on profits it's just provide better and efficient travel
@@gamingff4505 Aree husshar aadmi, kidhar the aap itne dino se? Aap hi chala lo railway ministry🙏🙏🤦♂🤦♂
@@gamingff4505 Naste guru ji ap game khelo
Gyan na pelo
Useless logic
@@gamingff4505to why wil they give you facility? Loss ke liye?
I differ from your point, non AC vande Bharat will reduce the travel cost by 30-40 %
You took my words bro ❤ Yesterday only I was thinking this
The first and primary project the govt should aim is to built world class airport like toilets which are countinously cleaned and kept ready for use in railway stations. That is a part which is still being forgotten and its very important.
The ticket prices will gradually drop but my problem is, the population travelling in general and sleeper don't care to keep the train clean and make completed mess of the train and washroom.
That can change if train coches have gaurds who also work as tc and are strict. One gaurd for 2 couches should be affordable and exilent . But they should be local employee and cheap with wages around 12,000 to 15,000 a lot of people will be happy to do the job.
DFCs can also make IR profitable this kind of stunt is not needed... Railways is already profitable and should focus on comfort now..
They can make trains in which AC will be on during summer and turned off in other seasons and keep the ticket price same . The AC does not need to be very powerful but at least keep the temperature around 25° C
Bhai room temperature hi 24 hota hai kya fayda 25 degree ka
@@ajaymandal8314
Bhai thandiyo me 80kmph se upar travelling ke time pe temp 4-5 degree ka ho jaata hai
It hardly costs anything to run the AC if you divide the costs per passenger
@@ajaymandal8314 summer me easily 32-35 ho jta ha...kuch jgha pe to aur vi zyada... I just suggested 25° as a bare minimum .
Bhai wo AC hai cooler nahi
Off kiya toh ventilation kaise hoga
Yes, was thinking exactly the same when heard about non-AC Vande Bharat.
Maintenance of these trains is very important. I was traveling in Deccan Express in Vista Dome coach and the window tint was uneven and had bubbles which made the view look very bad. Whats the point of paying high fare where you cant even see the beautiful view outside. The coach is not serving it's purpose which it is supposed to do.
You are absolutely Right 🎉
Non AC trains should be banned.
AC should be available for everyone. Even for poor people.
Poor logo ke pas utne paise thodi honge
@@Peter-nb7tkjaise iss video Mai bola Gaya hai, AC is necessity not a luxury
Make ac a compulsory thing and the people should not be charged for this....
@@Peter-nb7tksubsidy dede jab tak per capita income na badhe
@@Harshit-yy1oe kis kis chiz pe subsidy doge already normal tickets pe 55%subsidy hai. itna fund kaha se aayega. agar farm income jo 10l se jyada kamaye( jo mostly politicians ya tax bachane ke liye rich log karte hai) usko tax kar sakte hai par opposition badhkayega farmers ko aur ye law aa nahi payega
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Whatever you said in the video is 💯 correct!!
Metro trains carry a huge number of commuters being air conditioned and are still cheap.
Cause they run on subsidise and are like 1 to 5 kilometres travel 😂😂 ok 10 to 2 kilometres now × that with 600 kilometres than see the price 😂 . Affordable my ass and without subsidise it will be 20 rupee 😂
Agree with your points. Non-AC Vande Sadharan trains, with improved facilities, may be a transition phase, hopefully. Within 5-7 years there must be no Non-AC passenger trains in India. Subsidizng these trains is a must then. Vande Sadharan name is very bad. Should NOT use the 'Vande' brand name here if it's non-AC.
Atleast we can make vande sadharan like a garib rath with good services
#ASKPT why the Indian Railways does not help the electricity distribution in India because if implemented correctly it will benefit both the Discoms by increasing their efficiency and profitability of Railways. just like the private metros help the data cable companies
Suggestion- Ek br Mumbai to Patna general coach me travel kro or sath me travel kr rhe passenger se unse pucho ki wo kya afford kr skte h ?
Sahi bolea ho bhai
Reality Speaks hard brother bs loog video bana lete hai ground par kya ho raha ghanta pata hai
For beggars we still have bullock carts. It's cost efficient and environment friendly too.
Toh gareeb rath mai chale jao
@@dv9239 garib rath limited h hr root pr nhi chlti h
Even Mass Production of Vande Bharat and replacement with standard locomotive train in India is a good Idea by Government . Imagine all red and blue coach trains vanish just like trains on 1960s and all Vande Bharat type trains with 160-200km/hrs speed is worth consideration. Thus will set new standards as well as Speed boost. Moreover all Vandebharat (AC, Non Ac) and No LHB trains will ease modus Oprendi of railway as well as (These Vande Bharat are more efficient than normal trains) improved efficiency.
Conclusion: Railway's fixed cost go down and due to speed and efficiency increment more profit and passengers can be expected.
Bhopal - indore vande bhart is failure only 47 - 50 people travelling in it out of full capacity of 500+, because fair is 600 and it takes 4 hrs while you travel with vb with bus it cost 350and 3 hrs...both money and time can be saved
😂😂 judging failure in early stage
Beside , whats about other path ?
Non ac will become liability ! Govt should only focus on ac VB
Essa isliye hua kyoki logo ki demand long distance trains jo ek state ki city se dusre state ki city tak connect kare . Vande Bharat jaisi train sirf short distance travel karta hai . India mein mehgayi badd raha hai lekin logo ki income utni nahi badd raha hai . Railway humsafer jaisi sirf AC train chala raha hai aur AC coach bada raha hai lekin unn 70% middle class ki sleeper general coach ki demand Puri nahi kar raha hai . New trains sirf amiro ko dhyan mein rakh kar bana rahe hai . Railway ko AC superfast train aur sleeper general coach ki train ko alag seperate kar ke chalna chiye jisse sabhi ko fayeda mile .
But as per capita income of indians is steadily increasing, they will be able to afford, or you can say ac trains fare will be equivalent to non ac fare that time.(relatively as compared to today when income is low)
Temperature is going to be such a liability in the future considering global warming for a country like india, having non ac trains will actually prove to be curse for the gdp while ac will be a necessity.
India needs to keep upgrading and people should need to run with the time and keep upgrading themselves and their living standards..
It should not be non ac ,as people of sleeper are moving in ac...but just reduce few price
They just want to keep on skimming the ticket price with ac and high top speed as luxury item. Electricity usage is maybe just 10% higher than non ac coach but look at the ticket cost. They don’t even give you high speeds as promised and yet they charge for speed and ac. Ac should be standard for all trains with decent speeds.
This is true.
If the train runs at 130 to 150 km per hour it must have air cooled coaches. Travelling at that speed keeping the windows open condition will be very difficult because of wind and sound.
Loved your way of explanation, awesome video, you earned yourself a subscriber ❤
Wasn't the government planning on removing all non-AC coaches for trains operating above a speed of 130kmph? Then what's the point of this? Vande Sleeper makes more sense.
EMU & MEMU Unreserved Passenger Train Services are far better when it comes to faster acceleration along with less fare. Common commuters preference would be Basic Passenger Trains. Hope Vande Sadharan would serve all this kind of basic amenities.
#AskPT
Out of the total Vande Bharat trains launched, which one is the highest in terms of occupancy and profit?
Varanasi Vande Bharat Express
16 coach train still waiting list crosses 100
@@AdityaKantKushwahai think also the Ahm-Mum route & Mum-Goa route.
It's Kasaragod - Thiruvananthapuram Vande Bharat
The maintanence of this non AC train will be much higher
Its about efficient usage of a train.
Even now most vande bharat are least efficient including NDLS BSB VB.
Vande bharat means time savings at frequent acceleration deceleration. Its ideal for trunk route frequent stopping important trains to keep schedules. eg Poorva exp, Paschim exp.
Technically CSTM Raj >= Vande bharat in terms of operational efficiency.
most VB is under utilised.
KSG VB is best utilised.
Not supporting innovation and going back in technology will only cause problems.
See ISRO launched satellites to forecast weather which is helping Indians to avoid climate disaster and help with a lot of security in a similar fashion people in AC trains will feel good and will result in better productivity.
To improve on earning the Indian railways should focus on freight corridors more and cut down cost on passenger trains like make the food paid instead of complimentary and be on time to become reliable.
Non Ac Vande Bharat is waste of money
No
@@sahilbhardwaz4852 change your mind set that AC coach not luxury
That why India is backward
@@aryanchettiar2040 ha tere pass to poore railway ministry se jaada dimaag h biro
@@aryanchettiar2040 noob ?
@@sahilbhardwaz4852 your brother is
The besic need to increase avarage speed upto 100 kmph. Where it's still below 70 kmph in SF trains. And SF trains are converting AC SF rather than increase its speed. So stupid...
Gareeb Rath was one such initiative. Extra seats were added to manage the cost.
People made a lot of fun with that idea ( because it came from Lalu) yet it was a revolutionary concept.
#ASKPT why do not Railways use advertisement to gather funds on high level, for example many times we see trains/metros are covered with promotional contents like IPL , or any government based initiatives/policies. Why do not they expand it to more trains with investments from private companies to create a good source of income.?
Metro has higher number of people looking at it with lesser duration interval. They stop at station every few minute. So the revenue for the traditional train ads would be much lesser.
Initially metro was also considered as luxurious by Delhi people but it’s the lifeline of Delhi and every section of society is using it
Some people in board still has mentality of 90s. They want to keep railways for the poor so railway should have poor service.
We need a minister like Nitin Gadkari for Railways
Can't install water cooler or other cooling systems
I agree! Vande sadharan express should have to be metro trains atleast it should have ac and if the frequency of train will increase so it can cater same amount of people with less crowding at faster pace.
Affordability is going to be key factor here and whole point of ac and non ac trains.
Middle class got their vande Bharat so what's worng with genaral public getting vande sadharan 😂 what they don't deserve it ?
Government bss normal trains mai Jo genral coach hatye hai wo wapi lota de jin trains me pehle 5 genral coachs the ab wha sirf 1 coach hota hai bhid nahi hogi to kya hoga
Akdam sahi bole ho . Per agar proper tarike se non AC laya jaaye to ye chalega . Mass production hoga aur ak hi factory me sab production ho jayega to railway ka time , money, place,worker sab save hoga .
Aur mejority vande Bharat rahega to travel time me bhi save hoga log zyada train ka use karenge bus ke bajay , time pe chalega to . Long term ko dekhna chahiye government ko
So basically they're making a local train😂
Now I know what they are gonna do with all the local trains in Mumbai which are about be replaced with vande metro😂
reinventing the wheel
I think if the general compartment get Air conditioned then we can eliminate the non-AC class. Vande bharat with sleeper births air conditioned but few general compartments. So that lower income group gets to travel in case all reserved seats get booked in "all AC train" kind of situation.
Ohh wow than who will ride genaral class cause genaral People can't afford ac by a mile have you seen avg income of Indians 😂
@@ind-rishiyt1600 Making general compartment air conditioned with keeping it general. Price, facilities everything remains same, it just becomes air-conditioned.
Vande Sadharan will be 24 LHB coaches with 2 WAP locos. It won't look like vande bharat. Dont worry.
Vande Bharat already sucks now. The last time I travelled from Jammu to Delhi, it came 1 hour late on the platform! I asked the tea vendor. He said it's the norm now
Bhai non ac vande Bharat nahi aayega iska plan drop hogaya hai iski jagah vande Metro aayega Joki ac hoga aur kam kiraya
6:12 this clip is very misleading that's a london train our trains are nowhere close to London trains as of now
Railway should change the desine of non ac coaches
Indeed blue lhb coaches are so attractive as compared to red one 😢😊
with just rs.12 crore extra (for second loco) Any train == VB.
So, Push pull should be norm for non stop trains (including Rajdhani Shatabdi Vandebharat).
VB-EMU should be norm for daily trunk route intermittent stop trains (eg. Dakshin, GT Mail GT exp).
Then only operational efficiency is improved at lower cost of expenditure.
Sad to see this video how government disappointed us like that
It's not government... It's the people who demand these things
Yes i domt understand how will vande sadharan be any better than gareebrath?.
Gareebrath is cheap but full ac train
I also agree with you on this issue 🤝🏻
thankyou so much for making this video
Today's weather A.C is definitely necessary not luxury and poor people should get that access otherwise in long distance travelling many people's will get heat stroke. I think government can make compromise on quality of seat to lower manufacturing price but they should not compromise on AC.
Exactly
We must get of the mindset
Non-ac public transport in a tropical climate like ours is a joke.
Adding more AC local trains is Hidden fare hike. And vande Bharat travel time must be less than 5 hrs.
A much needed fare hike. I am sick of seeing Railways being kept artificially cheap for ' poor ' people. If adjusted according to the inflation rate and the historic value of currency, railways (including AC classes and premium train services) have been kept dirt cheap. All local trains should be fully AC (as AC is a necessity) and the minimum fare should be at least 50% higher than what it is now. No more of this ' poor people ' nonsense.
@@thetechnocrat4979ikr just send the poor to their gareeb rath
Instead of removing AC they can add more seats per coach. Instead of 70 seats they can add 85 seats.
AC economy mai 90 log ki seats hai. Aur kya chaiye
I think if we make a sadharan vande bharat then in a place of Ac just add good fan like a flat fans for air and keep design same as Vande bharat don't make open window
Sleeper class and general sections are mainly responsible for garbage along the railway track.
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