The Forgotten Special Forces Backpack - Gregory Spear UM21 Military Backpack

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  • @TheOutdoorGearReview
    @TheOutdoorGearReview  5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That poor donkey.....
    Overnight Adventure on Friday! - Luke

    • @tinyz81
      @tinyz81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heck jeah :D hope its bush crafty :D you got me even more hooked on military surplus since its so cheap and durable, of course you toss everything in the corner right after finishing ur military carreer but now i love it all again since its fun and goot food instead of stupid loads of heavy bulky operational needed equipment :D

    • @redsorgum
      @redsorgum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheOutdoorGearReview I forgot about this pack.........sorry. You did a video on the old-school Swedish military pack, is it heavier than those packs? I have the large Swedish pack.

    • @bobbysan8823
      @bobbysan8823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey guys..what's up Luke excellent work on the reviews...was wondering if you knew how to adjust the aluminum stays that are visible when you open the sleep compartment...please message me back if you have any info..thanks..bless

    • @mastersonbat8633
      @mastersonbat8633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had this pack for several years. It is my long-term bug out. Haven't done much hiking but getting back to the outdoor life oh, so it's about to get aired out repacked and get dusty! very nice review. Thank you for the content

  • @LowPlainsDrifter60
    @LowPlainsDrifter60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    1:57 " I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it."

  • @Wylder955
    @Wylder955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I have some experience with weight (77 lbs) for about a solid month day in and day out and let me tell you there is no such thing as comfort with anything over 40 lbs it's just varies in degrees of pain.
    On a side note the channel is king when it comes to diversity of gear i like that you check out both civilian and military gear and things that are on the US market and things that are more used in Europe.
    Keep it up !

    • @dudebig5404
      @dudebig5404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How true. I can see how in just a short time this would wear you down... Day in and day out. Holy hell !! But, perhaps NOT so bad for an Overnight for the mighty & Young... lol. As for me, I look for a ride to the bathroom... lol Peace Lew, Be safe & God bless.

    • @scottcline8941
      @scottcline8941 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still have nightmares of my pack, as a medic I had even more to carry than most. It made a man out of me and my back and shoulders still scream at me for that creation!

  • @TJCeeJay
    @TJCeeJay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loved that pack! My woodland camo version got jacked from my camper a half dozen years ago. Still bummed. Heavy; yes. Complicated; not really. Adjustability like you could not imagine; yes! Comfortable; oh, oh so comfortable! :-)

  • @jdcpac
    @jdcpac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, very interesting, I love the way you give history and the story behind why some gear was made the way it was. Rabidly anticipating this weeks adventure video coming out Friday. Thanks Luke.

  • @matthewsabin1841
    @matthewsabin1841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my Gregory back in 1998 and I still have it

  • @johngalt6929
    @johngalt6929 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That would be a nice pack. . . . . to leave in your vehicle as a trunk organizer.

  • @DrsharpRothstein
    @DrsharpRothstein 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. Intresting to understand how current packs have evolved and where their features come from.

  • @mindaugaspacesiunas9232
    @mindaugaspacesiunas9232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This pack is so awesome, yes it's heavy but it's super comfortable. I rucked with it weighting 35 kilograms and at the end of the day my shoulder was fine. I have full kit, and I'm that guy who takes everything you need and then some on a hike, but even I couldn't fully load entire system. This system is 9 out of 10, just because it weights a lot. Talking about comfort for me it is equally good or even better then Kifaru fulcrum.

  • @derlisiq4600
    @derlisiq4600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a package only to disembark where you carry your complete military equipment which is very heavy and bulky, you only charge it to a nearby target. Then you take it off or change it to a smaller and more comfortable package for attack, reconnaissance, etc. In civil life, it does not help much since most of us do bone trips. I think that such a package would not even serve to evacuate for long periods, because if you carry everything you need the package would be so heavy that you would not walk 2 km with it on top of it. Equally very good review Luke, a package with history.

  • @grayphotojournal
    @grayphotojournal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a UM21 side pouch woodland camo piece that has the Gregory label, which led me to find out more about it so here we are, cool! - wow the UM21 is a surprise to see what it is - I found the camo pouch at a thrift store for $5

  • @zombiehunter0000
    @zombiehunter0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    And I thought my kelty falcon 4000 was big .but I still love it . tanks for your videos kim

  • @thaddeusmikolajczyk9055
    @thaddeusmikolajczyk9055 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard of these never seen very good review. I have a Molle 2 woodland camo pack and i thought it had a lot of straps. That pack is winner. I have also have the 3 Day military pack which attaches to my Molle. The 3 day pack I actually use more then the Molle unless I carry a lot of stuff which most I really probably didn't need. Good reviews thanks.

  • @JustBeAdude
    @JustBeAdude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was issued in of these and I have to say, being accustomed to humping heavy weight, it does ride rather well. The mess of straps was and way fix, tape up or trim off what isn’t necessary as we did. On the note of weight, anything over 40 pounds just sucks regardless over any long distances. The only variable is how much it sucks on a pain scale.
    Love the reviews. Cheers.

  • @bobbafett3050
    @bobbafett3050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yup. That's ridiculous. Great for transporting and compressing sauna rocks. :D

  • @christophermarshall5015
    @christophermarshall5015 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its the best bag i have,i had to cut the beaver tail off and the internal divide [saves a lot of weight] but its bomb proof good review as always mate

  • @Chaucerfaux1
    @Chaucerfaux1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luke i have an REi Traverse rising star framm pack, i've had that bag no joke for 20 years and the only thing i have ever needed to fix was the shock cord netting on the outside for sleeping pads and such. For the price i paid for it i can honestly say it would fall under the bomb proof category. 100% waterfroof and it has no rain cover what so ever. I think it was 190 cubic inches.

  • @dudebig5404
    @dudebig5404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW, that thing is a BEAST !!! But, I Love it ! lolol Hi Luke, just stopped in for a coffee. You always bring the coolest stuff. Looks big enough to put in a small motor to carry ME !!! lol I always enjoy your company, be safe. Peace

  • @1187travis
    @1187travis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, as usual. Looks like a hybrid between the army's Mollee pack and the corp's ILBE pack. Black straps on 3 color desert... obviously rush to production straight out of proto-type phase. :D

  • @raven1124
    @raven1124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I still have the one I was issued. It's a tank.

    • @raven1124
      @raven1124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jdcpac Thank you for your support!

    • @crackpipejoe3508
      @crackpipejoe3508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that you Joe Tetti????

  • @militarygearjunkie2522
    @militarygearjunkie2522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ILBE is the best US military issed pack so far but I wanna feel this one on my body, too!

    • @militarygearjunkie2522
      @militarygearjunkie2522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @scorpiooooh I like ALICE packs, too. I even got 3 of em, large, medium and small-woodland camo. They are all modified for my needs.

    • @militarygearjunkie2522
      @militarygearjunkie2522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Isomatte Go ahead!

  • @christophermarshall5015
    @christophermarshall5015 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love mine, yes its heavy, i took the beaver tail thingy off and a lot of the strapping,its bomb proof

  • @robertsbushcraft
    @robertsbushcraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    USGI packs have come A LONG way since the late 90's. I've got a FILBE system (looks like it has UM21 roots) and absolutely love it

  • @Eric-ew8jt
    @Eric-ew8jt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool hand Luke wearing shorts we're wearing winter jackets up here hahaha ATB from the Yellowknife

  • @bobjoncas2814
    @bobjoncas2814 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    .good review. only pack what you need, and if you need lots of equip.and you can carry it, i can see this pack being put to good use..

  • @steppib.4598
    @steppib.4598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If the backpack is in camouflage colors, what sense make the straight-line, black cords that stand out unnaturally on the camouflage backpack? 😨

    • @dudebig5404
      @dudebig5404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Military Intelligence... lol

    • @Dragonskincollector
      @Dragonskincollector 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it is because by the time this pack is made camo/tan color webbing is hardly available, this pack first exists in the early dawn of the MOLLE era.

  • @Nobody13325
    @Nobody13325 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow an old Stapmaster 2000, been years!

  • @jamesr3154
    @jamesr3154 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see how you kit out one of these bags for a 3 day hike. I'm only a novice hiker, but notice when the bag is filled out a lot of the outside pockets become useless or 'squeek' when I've added water bottles etc.

  • @a45456565
    @a45456565 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Luke😺

  • @chlebowg
    @chlebowg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was issued the woodland system on my last maritime ops team. Hated using it with the sea kayaks. Had my skies/snow shoes straps on the outside during winter warfare exercises in the German Alps. I agree on your assessment of it being heavy but comfortable. I hated it as being over complicated and went back to my large ALICE ruck. That large ALICE I carried 150 lbs in one during GW1.

  • @Shiner32
    @Shiner32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I was issued one of those back in the day!

  • @thetschoni3813
    @thetschoni3813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like it. But as s big, expandable Backpack system I still prefer the Warhammer by Eberlestock! In my opinion one of the best if not the best in its class!

  • @joetexas1546
    @joetexas1546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gregory makes good stuff but really heavy! I have a Baltoro 65.

  • @dhession64
    @dhession64 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing you make Lucas pack this one?😆😜😂
    This would be the perfect pack for Hafpor Björnsson (The Mountain or Gregor Clegane on Game Of Thrones and currant World's Strongest Man). You might need bigger shoulder straps though.
    Aside of that commentary 😂😂 great review. I don't like carrying 17 lb of gear let alone a pack that weighs as much lol but I enjoyed your presentation. Thorough and concise as ever. Thank you.

  • @dakine9445
    @dakine9445 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to get your hands on the Stone Glacier line of packs for reviews...maybe even check out their new tent

  • @rockycreel3328
    @rockycreel3328 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a review of the Eberlestock G4 Operator/Terminator? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on that as well as the Wisport Reindeer.

  • @angryagain68
    @angryagain68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure my 75+10 liter backpack would fit in the main compartment. (fully loaded)!

  • @laogai5700
    @laogai5700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dana Design Terraplane. Just 3.2 kg. ;) There are still used versions for sale to find. Extremely comfortable hauler that will last a lifetime.

  • @johnbutler2231
    @johnbutler2231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pack weighing 10 pounds +, I am looking to keep my pack less than 5 for now, I have not been in the bush for nearly a year due to back and left leg injury. Hoping to get my kayak in the water soon.

  • @WPJsPlace
    @WPJsPlace 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is also a green and CADPAT version of this pack for Canada.

  • @Sticky745
    @Sticky745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice pack!

  • @deweyjowers6286
    @deweyjowers6286 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember seeing them in U.S. Cav back in the 90s.

  • @1337Mo
    @1337Mo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Flying spaghetti monster

  • @tinyz81
    @tinyz81 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahahaha funny pack thou glad i hadnt had to serve with it but lmao ... Haul haul haul haul !!!! Glamping brother haha heck jeah i love my belgium m97 120L pack its very similar to the berhgaus atlas so you can get the both 10l side zipper pouches to a daypack and i payed only 60 bucks for it in good used condition =) hehe wanna see a bushcraft / military surplus overnight with this !!! lets go luke ! :D load it to your personal max and have a good one in the woods ! best wishes from germany, retired special airmann, Luftwaffe /// =)

  • @wolfman6000
    @wolfman6000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool Video !

  • @tomcatt1824
    @tomcatt1824 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hv 2 large Alice pack's, but thanks Alice is heavy nuff !!..👍..

  • @Sticky745
    @Sticky745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There’s a desert camo pack right now on eBay for $260

  • @erniechipps7067
    @erniechipps7067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool, we need good back packs n we need to know how BIG.

  • @slug..
    @slug.. ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Gregory backpacks

  • @christophermarshall5015
    @christophermarshall5015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am the proud owner of one used it once,its too narrow/to heavy[even after cutting a boatload of straps off] i now use a granite gear patrol pack

  • @viewsandreviews180
    @viewsandreviews180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video and review but I’ll keep my Alice.

  • @christophermarshall5015
    @christophermarshall5015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its a great bag i cut all of the surplus straps off and that dozy arse seat thingy

  • @Nobody13325
    @Nobody13325 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you are an Aidman though, you need that extra room to carry team med supplies.

  • @deputyprepper4931
    @deputyprepper4931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice pack. Over engineerd for me I like the FILBE

  • @ed5042
    @ed5042 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was gifted one of these in mint condition, holy moly!

  • @richardleek5630
    @richardleek5630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I'm Richard leek I would like. To here what u would say would be the best winter pack that the mss sleep s will go in side thank please let me know what you think

  • @loueckert4970
    @loueckert4970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So, do you recommend this pack for ultra-light thru hikers? (just kidding!)

    • @lalleprutt868
      @lalleprutt868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The bag can easily compress and carry three normal ultra-light thru hikers.

    • @cdawson198600
      @cdawson198600 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lou Eckert it’s ultra light for the hulk.

    • @alpinealpine2793
      @alpinealpine2793 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

  • @alexkramer558
    @alexkramer558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one...!!!

  • @marinejarhead291
    @marinejarhead291 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the Mule come with this Pack Lol 😂 😂 I wish I would have had a Mule back when I was in the Marine Corp Lol 😂 😂 It's a Beast Definitely..$$$$ Crazy ..

  • @dironahlquist8159
    @dironahlquist8159 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ILBE main pack might have that thing beat for number of straps!

  • @GrumpyGrunt
    @GrumpyGrunt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "Canyonero" of MilSurp packs...with a bonus target box drawn on your back to make finding center mass easier. If you take off most of those straps, I think you might get it down to around 15# base weight. No thanks. 🤣 #StillTeamILBE

  • @pault7280
    @pault7280 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This gonna be for sale on your gear clearance?

  • @emjackdad
    @emjackdad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Gawd! I thought my ILBE was a beast!

  • @ed5042
    @ed5042 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes the CFP 90 look like a failure
    any opinions?

  • @Tom-tt1vg
    @Tom-tt1vg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Ok the only question I have. WHY
    This packs looks more difficult than it needs to be. Too heavy, way too expensive, and too complicated to figure out

    • @zackhileman7661
      @zackhileman7661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      its the united states military if its not complicated or heavy and dont forget expensive they dont wnt it surprised this pack isnt still used
      another example is the marine corp ilbe and ilbe gen2

    • @Ceejnew
      @Ceejnew 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      $

    • @dominickgrimaldi6352
      @dominickgrimaldi6352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They look complicated but are not. I just bought one and can say that at least 65 to 70 percent of the straps are for adjustment . Once adjusted to you you never touch them again. As for weight I can't notice it much , but then again I haven't gone anywhere with it yet.

  • @moradisslessadat7171
    @moradisslessadat7171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the um21, once you have it tuned in for you, police your straps and forget them. Have had mine almost 17 years
    That desert camo looks hideous with black straps

    • @cthulhu6697
      @cthulhu6697 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I think it looks cool

  • @dannyburnam347
    @dannyburnam347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a place for your 7.62×51 rifle?

  • @Louis21237
    @Louis21237 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Way cool

  • @kevinhules9352
    @kevinhules9352 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I happen to own one of these systems, the woodland camo one, with patrol pack, and the fannypack is in desert camo. Came with 5 compression bags,(2 long ones for patrol pack, 2 big ones for rucksack, 1 for daypack) 4 strappacks of various sizes, 2 desert camo waterproof coverings for rucksack and patrol pack. And a booklet that I lost, but I bought it at the San Diego swap meet about 10 years Ago for $200.00!!!used about 10 times, Used it a few months ago and still feels new. Idk how much weight I put in it... it was a lot, plus we were alternating carrying the bear can and a bunch of beers but it makes it easy! I didn't use the patrol pack but apparently it can be attached??? Idk how to do this. If anyone knows, share the knowledge please!

  • @draekko_
    @draekko_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Teton Sports Fox 5200 would give it a run for its money in the strap dept. XD i own it lol.

  • @danieladam1636
    @danieladam1636 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great INCH BAG...........

  • @littlejimbridger7770
    @littlejimbridger7770 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nuts.

  • @Zack_Darce
    @Zack_Darce 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet the sleeve in that front compression flap would be good for a sheet of bulletproof matterial.. That way if someone shoots you in the back your good

    • @Zack_Darce
      @Zack_Darce 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The flap at @2:55

  • @zachwilmes2806
    @zachwilmes2806 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    dang im glad i got mine for $80

  • @christophermarshall5015
    @christophermarshall5015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    granite gear patrol pack has any one got one?,has anyone got a view on it?

  • @edwo6648
    @edwo6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you strip it down to the pack itself its no heavier than a Mystery Ranch 6500. The straps are over the top, but the bag is bomb proof. You just need to pull off all the extra BS.

  • @xSkyflow
    @xSkyflow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very intresting pack. Could you compare it with ILBE?

  • @dcambel943
    @dcambel943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it could use more straps.

  • @cindyneely6087
    @cindyneely6087 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the price 4 one now nice

  • @johncampbell335
    @johncampbell335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ILBE is too heavy for me now. This one's in the same category. Time to upgrade to ultralight for old Johnnie.

    • @dudebig5404
      @dudebig5404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to my world... lol My pack is of a bag of doritos now.. Be safe. Peace

  • @josephbrown-ut9ty
    @josephbrown-ut9ty 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here and i thought my MALICE pack was a beast....WOW...

  • @robertevans8126
    @robertevans8126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    shared

  • @SANDMANGREMLIN
    @SANDMANGREMLIN 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were
    I have 3 um21
    The green
    The desert
    And the black.
    Yup there is um21 in a black color

  • @wgrillojr
    @wgrillojr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No running and gunning with that on your back. Hope they never had any SAW gunners hoofin that around. The sit pad looked like a bulletproof shield.

  • @ryanvictoria6206
    @ryanvictoria6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope varnustelika sells it😊

  • @scottmayhew2227
    @scottmayhew2227 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No wheels?

  • @adamlonghunters2707
    @adamlonghunters2707 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's awsome and maybe too much for me lol.

  • @Jeffs40K
    @Jeffs40K 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's Cousin IT

  • @pawel_tips911
    @pawel_tips911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand why manufacture destroyed desert camouflage by adding black "ugly" stripes - it doesn't make sense if it was military bag.

  • @bdv861
    @bdv861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer my Flextrek 37 Trillion Whipsnake Edition.

  • @pastorpfp1
    @pastorpfp1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! that pack is for giants that King David fought back in the Old Testament. LOL!

  • @cb750k1974
    @cb750k1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gregory took their "Denali Pro" and put it on steroids.

  • @gazlyno
    @gazlyno 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a beast of a pack, maybe if I was going to war lol. For leisure maybe not

  • @RB-fb5jf
    @RB-fb5jf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Radonkulas!!

  • @markwilliams882
    @markwilliams882 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Ilbe recon has more molle than that does.

  • @bigbone88
    @bigbone88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another sale on line

  • @phillipnunya6793
    @phillipnunya6793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird that they couldn't be bothered to find some tan straps and fabric instead of black.

  • @petermentes63
    @petermentes63 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice pack but toooooo heavy and tooooo complicated for practical multiday trips

  • @user-jr2ue9nu6y
    @user-jr2ue9nu6y 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No offense a Desert Camo bag with black straps...at least use brown

  • @lakrabid
    @lakrabid 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting to see Luke come jumping out of that pack lol