I have a 2019 Ford F250 Super Duty with this very same issue. I took it to the dealer today who quoted $3000 (parts and labor) to repair the sunroof. Based on this video, this will save me a ton of $$! Thanks alot for making this video!
Thank you for this video! To prevent problems, I decided to lube my sunroof today. I started by cleaning it and found a small piece of black broken plastic up there.....just like you did. Parts are now on order to do this repair. Appreciate you showing me how to do it!
Amazing video, my f450 king ranch 2017 just started to have this issue and was quoted $1695 2 days for repair. I knew there had to be a how to video thanks can’t wait to do it my self
just purchased a 2018 f450 limited and noticed the sunroof would vent but not open, this explained and showe dme everything i needed to know. perfect! thanks!
Thanks for your video. When you buy a ford truck with a sunroof you have to know at some point you will be repairing your sunroof track. 2013 was a pain. Had to change the auger. Took about 8 hours. 2018 looks easy its just the plastic track.
I’ve done this twice on my 2017 F250. One suggestion, before installing the glass back into the truck, clean/lubricate the rubber seal around the glass and also clean the edge of the opening.
Thanks so much for your thorough, clear and concise how to video! It was a little bit of a pain to remove and install the first slider but the second one went a bit smoother! I took your advise at the end of your video, and I’m so glad you were kind enough to consider that add-on! It made the day! Thanks again!
Great video! I wish I did a few things differently… I would’ve put cardboard down on the stationary panel so it doesn’t get scratched by the metal like mine did! (Common sense though.) The track can be lubed after installation and cleaning/ lubing the panel should be done when removed like he had mentioned.! 4’ ladder and a magnet definitely came in handy! Great video! Don’t be afraid to tackle it!
@@3rdgenworkshop I installed mine a week ago. Ordered several from different vendors. All the same from what I could tell. The the unused ones back. I too needed to know for sure.
It really varies as to how much adjustment you get from set to set with the arms. Sometimes, you have the adjustment maxed out to the top like you did, and they could really stand another half a millimeter or so if you had the option, and sometimes you get it right and there's a ton of adjustment left over. The tolerances are pretty wide. Sometimes one side is maxed and the other side has more to go if needed. I do like to (and recommend) that the front glass be adjusted just a hair higher than the rear. I only adjust after I've opened it to the rear and then closed it. I don't adjust after shutting it from Vent. Reason why is, I've found there's a good bit of play (or slop) in the mechanism, and if you adjust it perfectly even after shutting it from Vent, once you open it and close it, it'll be a bit low. So I adjust them so the front is a hair high, and once you open it and close it, it'll be just about perfect. Plus, that leaves just a bit "room" left for when it inevitably sags a bit. Nice job on the video.
Good video, thanks! I used it and saved a bunch of cash. My ‘18 SD rails were broken in about 5 places when I removed them. There are far cheaper places online to get that OEM kit. I paid just under $100 for mine by doing a simple search for “ Discount OEM Ford Parts”, FYI. It was a fairly messy job, and might I recommend running some dielectric grease around the sunroof seal while you’ve got it off? Mine slides like butter now. Thanks again.
Great video. Do you know if i can get to the 6 window screws and properly replace the rails in the closed position? My roof is stuck in the closed position including the sunshade closes half way and stops. At this point the reset programing wont even budge the roof. Whats the advantage of placing the roof glass in the vent position. I just ordered my rails from sunroof doctor. TIA
Mine are not broke. I did order the grease for the sunroof per the TSB. I also ordered the silicone grease will I be able to grease the tracks with out taking the tracks out? My tracks are fine I just want to put some more grease on them.
Thanks for the video, my opened but then didn't close, seeing your video and star working on it, yeah broken pieces there. Parts in order. By any chance do you know how to fix bliss light not working on the mirror 😂
If the BLISS light isn't working it could be several things. 1. Fuse, 2. Camera not aligned, 3. Camera foggy and it's not seeing the road, 4. Sensor in the tail light needs replaced, 5. Wire has come disconnected, 6 It's bad. Those are the things I would look at.
I guess I lucked up,,,,Mine popped and froze up last week...Took in to the dealer monday and was ready today...i had the ford premium esp...I only had to pay the 100 deductable. When I dropped it off monday the service writer said he wasnt sure if the esp will cover it, depends on problem...according to my ticket they replaced a guide and a shield, cost of right at 300..after reading all of these horror stories I feel very lucky...he also said he has seen many glass portions shatter on their on....
Great video. Went to change mine out and it appears the plastic piece that the side shield(plastic accordion) clips on to from the bottom seems to be cracked as well. I can't find it on the diagram anywhere and I'm hesitant to put replacement rails on until I can find that replacement part. Any idea what that piece even does besides retain side shield? Wondering if it will function with it being compromised. Thanks in advance.
I believe those parts are available at the sunroof doctor as well. Just give them a call. I know you can get them from Ford, but you'll be a Ford mark up. You should replace anything that is cracked or broken otherwise you fix will be temporary due to the weight of these roofs.
@@3rdgenworkshop Thanks for the response. After more research it appears I was referring to the lower rail that slides with the glass, and is part of the actual frame assembly. Cheap plastic part that is not sold separately but hopefully sunroof doctor has or someone starts manufacturing the piece soon as it seems to be a fairly common issue.
@@Rsal07 The lower rail on mine is also broken. Have you had any luck finding a repair for that with out Ford telling you the entire thing has to be replaced for $4500? I have searched but have not had any luck.
When you vent your sunroof, with no other windows open, do you find it howls and whistles really bad?? And are the aftermarket rails better and don’t break?
The after market rails seem exactly like the OEM ones. On the whistle, yes they all seem to do it. I find cracking the rear sliding window or a rear door window stops the whistle.
Hey brotha, I actually used this video to replace my rails, so I appreciate it! However, that didn't fix my issue. It actually looks like on my drivers side the bracket that is attached to the cable that moves the roof back and forth has stripped on the inside so it won't move with the cable part. hopefully that makes sense but if you have any ideas on the parts I would need or how to do it I would appreciate it!! thanks
Sounds like the track pully system is broken. That is a massive job as you have to take the entire headliner out to replace it. I haven't done that yet. That part isn't cheap, and it's a 8-10 hour job to replace.
If it's the cable system, that is a Ford OEM part and it requires the whole headline to come out. That part, on my explore was about $800. I had Ford do that swap, because of the huge hassle to take the entire roof apart.
From what I have seen and heard from the dealership it requires buying the whole track. It’s about 1600 bucks for my truck….debating on whether it’s even worth it at this point
@@danielbeckman272 depending on the year and mileage it's worth doing. Otherwise a dealership will knock off twice that off a trade. You have to drop the whole headliner to replace it. It's like an 6-8 hour job, and a royal pain in the butt.
Do you think the rubber cover inside can be removed and silcone paste be added to the track as maintance? Or from the factory what they add is fine and only use the krytox for the panel?
@@3rdgenworkshop What we’re the symptoms that led you to do this? My roof panel won’t pull down enough to clear the rear panel so I’m assuming I have a similar issue???
The plastic guide rails that you have to slide it out of - can you order those? Looks like the slide in the very rear channel. I’m afraid I screwed mine up so bad I need a whole new sunroof
My difference is I couldn’t get it to the center position to do the repair. I think I’m going to have to cut the old arms off because I can’t get it anywhere near where I can get the pin to the hole to slide it out.
I ordered everything I needed from sunroof doctor. However, there are some parts that are OEM only. I believe on some models there is a back stop. If that broke, and the rails slid to far back, the only why to fix it is to remove the whole assembly. That is a much bigger job as the head liner has to come out, and you will need to people to remove and install a new one.
Rails, you mean the plastic piece I’m referring to correct? Do you know the part number for the whole assembly? I’m checking various places and I see it as discontinued.
Great video. Need your help! do you know if the sunroof panel glasses from a 2021 F150 super crew are the same as previous year model? I know the part number changed, but cannot see any different other than the controllers... do you know? I have both panels broken and the 2021 part is out of stock with not ETA! but I measure the glass from another F150 from previous year and it is the same length! par number for 2021 is ML3Z-16500A18-A and the part number for a 2020 it is Fl3Z-16500A18-A any thoughts I will really appreciated as dealer does not help.
How can you manually close if it won't close all the way prior to repair? I ordered the parts, but the passenger side won't close all the way despite me pushing as I push the button to close. Just tarp it and wait and do the repair?
It depends on where it broken. Several people will have one person push the button while a second moves the glass into position. You might have to remove broken sections of the track to free the space as something might be blocking it. Without seeing it, hard to give you better instructions. Placing a barrier like a tarp or plastic might be your only option if you can't clear the track of any damaged parts.
@@3rdgenworkshop The plastic guide rails where the back end of it has the metal clip to hold up the drip channel - my tracks got stuck back and I eventually got them forward but I noticed the back of the rail (where it holds that clip) had come out of the track when it got stuck all the way back and now that it is forward, it's above the track. If I get everything cleared, do you know if it is possible to move the (empty) sunroof to the open position again and get that thing past the track and down so when I come forward, it goes back in the channel? I feel like I made it worse and I can't find those plastic parts on their own, I only see having to get a whole new frame and they all show as discontinued.
Do the sunroof motors engage? If not, check your fuses. If so, yes, you can still remove the trim pieces that hide the sunroof panel screws. It's a lot harder to remove them, but you can get to them. Just have a magnetic retrieval tool handy or a screwed driver with magnetic bit so you don't drop the screws.
I had a friend replace a broken rail on my 2018 F150 Now the only button that works is the pop up which only opens a little, then when you try to slide the sunroof open and all it does is CHATTER!! as you hold the buuton. Now it wont even close! Nothng else works, cant even close the shade. Any help is appreciated!
I saw another YT video. Apparently have to loosen the motor in headliner. Reset the guides in the tracks. Tighten motor back down and resycronize. I guess it’s a common thing when replacing the tracks
Hey bro. I need a big favor, I'm wanting to install the cab lights but I have the sunroof, would you give me the measurements from windshield to front of the light pods.
Sorry man. I sold that truck a few months ago and switched into a 2021 F-150. I'd gladly give you the measurements if I still had the truck. Hit up the superduty forum on Facebook. Those guys are great.
mine is stuck open. any suggestions on how to get it into the tilt position? can the glass be removed when its fully open? it wont close more then a about 2 inches.
You might be able to have two people on each side push the track down while a third closes it. Without seeing a picture of video, really hard to provide exact guidance.
@@3rdgenworkshop I was able to get in and unscrew the window. But the metal brackets just barely hit the broken track. I managed to wiggle it out after being the bracket just a hair. Now I am able to remove both peices of glass to work on it fully.
If you can see where the break is, maybe. I'd recommend taking the sun roof out and inspect the rails for where it catching. You should be able to remove the broken piece and then slide it back shut until parts arrive.
You should still be able to get to the screws that hold the sunroof in. If it's just the guide tracks, like in this video you can replacement with no issues, just a little more of a pain to take off the sunroof. If the full track is broken, then you have to drop the headliner and it's a much bigger repair. Honestly, I don't know how they can say the tracks are broken without a full disassembly. While the large tracks do break, it's not often. 99% of the time it's the plastic guides in this video.
I appreciate the offer, but no thank you. Honestly it's really simple. This was the first time I'd ever done it. Just watch the video 2 or 3 times to really get the steps down. Trust me, you can do it.
So to clarify, I'm not the biggest idiot in the world, i worked at the dealer, I own a mechanic shop, i have been doing stuff like this for 15 years. These rails were a pain in the ass, and there looks like there was alot more broken in there then just the rails, I put the rails in and on the second or 3rd cycle everything including the new rails broke again, proably one of the worst designed things I have ever come acrost in mechanics. These sun roof are ridiculous, engineered to be just sufficient enough to work under normal circumstances. Ford really out did there selves with failure on this design. Hopefully get a new assembly today and everything will work
Stuck open as far as the vent, or all the way back? If vented, you can just remove the screws. If open as in back v/s vented, I'd have to see a picture or video to give you any tips on it.
@@3rdgenworkshop I just had experienced the issue one week after purchase 2017 SD Platinum. I’ll let you know how I make out! So far, thanks for the OEM-alike source and the lubricant recommendation.
Sunroof Track Compatible for Ford F150 2015-2020 F250 F350 F450 2017-2019 Sunroof Guide Rails FL3Z-1651071-A copy this for amazon rails for the ford truck
Without seeing it, not sure. But you should be able to still unbolt the sunroof and take it off. It will just be a little tighter to get the the screws.
UPDATE: problem initializing ! after I push all the buttons and when pressing the last button, the sunroof pops up slightly and then starts chattering ! I manually crank the sunroof down to closed position and then try again to initialize and again after pushing the last button, it pops up and then continues to chatter until I release the button! Rinse and Repeat! A royal pain min my butt!!
Where is the chattering at? Could be you have a larger track problem. Also, I would recommend looking for an initializing steps for your specific year. There are a few tweaks to the steps in some years.
Amazing how flimsy they make these parts for such an expensive truck. i just replaced one in an 04. obviously it's been a problem for many years but Ford still hasn't made the parts any better
I have a 2019 Ford F250 Super Duty with this very same issue. I took it to the dealer today who quoted $3000 (parts and labor) to repair the sunroof. Based on this video, this will save me a ton of $$! Thanks alot for making this video!
That is exactly why I learned to do it myself and made this video. Glad it helped.
They quoted me $5500 in Santa Rosa at the Ford dealership. Criminals.
Thank you for this video! To prevent problems, I decided to lube my sunroof today. I started by cleaning it and found a small piece of black broken plastic up there.....just like you did. Parts are now on order to do this repair. Appreciate you showing me how to do it!
Great to hear. The roof should have lube applied at least once a year. I like most people didn't do that and it created all kinds of rattles.
Very informative video, shows all the steps to repair and replace sunroof track and re-programing
Thanks
Amazing video, my f450 king ranch 2017 just started to have this issue and was quoted $1695 2 days for repair. I knew there had to be a how to video thanks can’t wait to do it my self
Glad it helped
just purchased a 2018 f450 limited and noticed the sunroof would vent but not open, this explained and showe dme everything i needed to know. perfect! thanks!
Glad it helped
Thanks for your video. When you buy a ford truck with a sunroof you have to know at some point you will be repairing your sunroof track. 2013 was a pain. Had to change the auger. Took about 8 hours. 2018 looks easy its just the plastic track.
I don't know why they can't make those rails out of aluminum or something that will hold up better.
Just finished my second repair with this video. Thank you again! Really appreciate it
Glad it helped!
How long did it take you?
@@cbman2184 total effort is 30-45 minutes depending on how bad the track is broken.
Thank you so much for this video. VERY helpful. I managed to fix mine today with little to no trouble. You rock!
Glad it helped.
just replaced mine this evening, now we have a working sunroof again. many thanks!
Glad it helped. Much cheaper to do it yourself.
I’ve done this twice on my 2017 F250. One suggestion, before installing the glass back into the truck, clean/lubricate the rubber seal around the glass and also clean the edge of the opening.
Good tip
Thanks so much for your thorough, clear and concise how to video! It was a little bit of a pain to remove and install the first slider but the second one went a bit smoother! I took your advise at the end of your video, and I’m so glad you were kind enough to consider that add-on! It made the day! Thanks again!
Glad it helped!
Great video! I wish I did a few things differently… I would’ve put cardboard down on the stationary panel so it doesn’t get scratched by the metal like mine did! (Common sense though.) The track can be lubed after installation and cleaning/ lubing the panel should be done when removed like he had mentioned.! 4’ ladder and a magnet definitely came in handy!
Great video! Don’t be afraid to tackle it!
Thanks for the tip!
Same kit from Amazon. 25 bucs. Also, grease should be the last thing before install. It collects dust and dirt. Nice Vid. nice job.
Thanks for the tip. I've seen mixed reviews on the kit from Amazon, but if it works you can save some money.
@@3rdgenworkshop I installed mine a week ago. Ordered several from different vendors. All the same from what I could tell. The the unused ones back. I too needed to know for sure.
Great video, thank you very much for taking the time to make our lives easier, you rock!
My pleasure!
It really varies as to how much adjustment you get from set to set with the arms. Sometimes, you have the adjustment maxed out to the top like you did, and they could really stand another half a millimeter or so if you had the option, and sometimes you get it right and there's a ton of adjustment left over.
The tolerances are pretty wide. Sometimes one side is maxed and the other side has more to go if needed.
I do like to (and recommend) that the front glass be adjusted just a hair higher than the rear. I only adjust after I've opened it to the rear and then closed it. I don't adjust after shutting it from Vent. Reason why is, I've found there's a good bit of play (or slop) in the mechanism, and if you adjust it perfectly even after shutting it from Vent, once you open it and close it, it'll be a bit low.
So I adjust them so the front is a hair high, and once you open it and close it, it'll be just about perfect. Plus, that leaves just a bit "room" left for when it inevitably sags a bit.
Nice job on the video.
You are right on the adjustment and how much play there is from set to set. Great call out for those reading the comments. Thanks for the tweak.
This worked awesome, great video...no issues and works great!
Glad it helped
You just saved me $1,000 repair bill at the local Ford dealer. Thank you Sir.
Glad to help
Thank you for a great video. Will do this job myself thanks to you.
Glad to help. It's really not to hard. Just takes a little bit of time.
Good video, thanks! I used it and saved a bunch of cash. My ‘18 SD rails were broken in about 5 places when I removed them. There are far cheaper places online to get that OEM kit. I paid just under $100 for mine by doing a simple search for “ Discount OEM Ford Parts”, FYI. It was a fairly messy job, and might I recommend running some dielectric grease around the sunroof seal while you’ve got it off? Mine slides like butter now. Thanks again.
Glad it help. I agree on the applying the grease on the sunroof. I touch on that at the end of the video.
Great video, worked like a champ. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Just saved me a $1000 thanks sir!
Glad I could help!
any advice on how to vent it open? I push the vent button and nothing.
Great video. Do you know if i can get to the 6 window screws and properly replace the rails in the closed position? My roof is stuck in the closed position including the sunshade closes half way and stops. At this point the reset programing wont even budge the roof. Whats the advantage of placing the roof glass in the vent position. I just ordered my rails from sunroof doctor. TIA
You can get to them, it's just more difficult. In the vented position, it gives you the extra about 1/2" to get to the screws.
i see on amazon they have tracks for like $30. Anything different between those and the ones you used besides price?
They are all plastic. As long as they meet OEM specs you should be fine.
Mine are not broke. I did order the grease for the sunroof per the TSB. I also ordered the silicone grease will I be able to grease the tracks with out taking the tracks out? My tracks are fine I just want to put some more grease on them.
Yes, just use a glove, and use your fingers to work it in the track. They need to be maintained every so often.
@@3rdgenworkshop thank you sir!
Thanks for the video, my opened but then didn't close, seeing your video and star working on it, yeah broken pieces there. Parts in order.
By any chance do you know how to fix bliss light not working on the mirror 😂
If the BLISS light isn't working it could be several things. 1. Fuse, 2. Camera not aligned, 3. Camera foggy and it's not seeing the road, 4. Sensor in the tail light needs replaced, 5. Wire has come disconnected, 6 It's bad.
Those are the things I would look at.
Excellent video thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I guess I lucked up,,,,Mine popped and froze up last week...Took in to the dealer monday and was ready today...i had the ford premium esp...I only had to pay the 100 deductable. When I dropped it off monday the service writer said he wasnt sure if the esp will cover it, depends on problem...according to my ticket they replaced a guide and a shield, cost of right at 300..after reading all of these horror stories I feel very lucky...he also said he has seen many glass portions shatter on their on....
Yeah, the ESP cover a lot.
Great video. Went to change mine out and it appears the plastic piece that the side shield(plastic accordion) clips on to from the bottom seems to be cracked as well. I can't find it on the diagram anywhere and I'm hesitant to put replacement rails on until I can find that replacement part. Any idea what that piece even does besides retain side shield? Wondering if it will function with it being compromised. Thanks in advance.
I believe those parts are available at the sunroof doctor as well. Just give them a call. I know you can get them from Ford, but you'll be a Ford mark up. You should replace anything that is cracked or broken otherwise you fix will be temporary due to the weight of these roofs.
@@3rdgenworkshop Thanks for the response. After more research it appears I was referring to the lower rail that slides with the glass, and is part of the actual frame assembly. Cheap plastic part that is not sold separately but hopefully sunroof doctor has or someone starts manufacturing the piece soon as it seems to be a fairly common issue.
@@Rsal07 The lower rail on mine is also broken. Have you had any luck finding a repair for that with out Ford telling you the entire thing has to be replaced for $4500? I have searched but have not had any luck.
Is it necessary to have it in the vent position to do this? Mine won't popup to that position.
Never mind, I see you answered this previously.
hope it helped
When you vent your sunroof, with no other windows open, do you find it howls and whistles really bad??
And are the aftermarket rails better and don’t break?
The after market rails seem exactly like the OEM ones. On the whistle, yes they all seem to do it. I find cracking the rear sliding window or a rear door window stops the whistle.
You said you used Kryton as a lubricant in the end can you verify the type? Great video!
it's in the video description along with the amazon link
Hey brotha, I actually used this video to replace my rails, so I appreciate it! However, that didn't fix my issue. It actually looks like on my drivers side the bracket that is attached to the cable that moves the roof back and forth has stripped on the inside so it won't move with the cable part. hopefully that makes sense but if you have any ideas on the parts I would need or how to do it I would appreciate it!!
thanks
Sounds like the track pully system is broken. That is a massive job as you have to take the entire headliner out to replace it. I haven't done that yet. That part isn't cheap, and it's a 8-10 hour job to replace.
If it's the cable system, that is a Ford OEM part and it requires the whole headline to come out. That part, on my explore was about $800. I had Ford do that swap, because of the huge hassle to take the entire roof apart.
@Greg Gagnon Agreed. Why they used cheap plastic instead of billet aluminum here is beyond me.
From what I have seen and heard from the dealership it requires buying the whole track. It’s about 1600 bucks for my truck….debating on whether it’s even worth it at this point
@@danielbeckman272 depending on the year and mileage it's worth doing. Otherwise a dealership will knock off twice that off a trade. You have to drop the whole headliner to replace it. It's like an 6-8 hour job, and a royal pain in the butt.
Do you think the rubber cover inside can be removed and silcone paste be added to the track as maintance? Or from the factory what they add is fine and only use the krytox for the panel?
The grease for the rubber seal v/s the track is different. I would not use only one. Make sure you use the right one for each application.
@@3rdgenworkshop What we’re the symptoms that led you to do this? My roof panel won’t pull down enough to clear the rear panel so I’m assuming I have a similar issue???
Oddly for my 22 f450 the initialization won’t work, are you certain this works on the 22’s?
There was a tweak mid year to it. Works on some, not others unfortunately.
The plastic guide rails that you have to slide it out of - can you order those? Looks like the slide in the very rear channel. I’m afraid I screwed mine up so bad I need a whole new sunroof
My difference is I couldn’t get it to the center position to do the repair. I think I’m going to have to cut the old arms off because I can’t get it anywhere near where I can get the pin to the hole to slide it out.
I ordered everything I needed from sunroof doctor. However, there are some parts that are OEM only. I believe on some models there is a back stop. If that broke, and the rails slid to far back, the only why to fix it is to remove the whole assembly. That is a much bigger job as the head liner has to come out, and you will need to people to remove and install a new one.
Rails, you mean the plastic piece I’m referring to correct?
Do you know the part number for the whole assembly? I’m checking various places and I see it as discontinued.
I don't, but you should be able to find it here: www.fordpartsgiant.com/
Great video. Need your help! do you know if the sunroof panel glasses from a 2021 F150 super crew are the same as previous year model? I know the part number changed, but cannot see any different other than the controllers... do you know? I have both panels broken and the 2021 part is out of stock with not ETA! but I measure the glass from another F150 from previous year and it is the same length! par number for 2021 is ML3Z-16500A18-A and the part number for a 2020 it is Fl3Z-16500A18-A any thoughts I will really appreciated as dealer does not help.
If you have a 2021 it should be under warranty. There are part shortage all over the place for the new trucks.
How can you manually close if it won't close all the way prior to repair? I ordered the parts, but the passenger side won't close all the way despite me pushing as I push the button to close. Just tarp it and wait and do the repair?
It depends on where it broken. Several people will have one person push the button while a second moves the glass into position. You might have to remove broken sections of the track to free the space as something might be blocking it. Without seeing it, hard to give you better instructions. Placing a barrier like a tarp or plastic might be your only option if you can't clear the track of any damaged parts.
@@3rdgenworkshop The plastic guide rails where the back end of it has the metal clip to hold up the drip channel - my tracks got stuck back and I eventually got them forward but I noticed the back of the rail (where it holds that clip) had come out of the track when it got stuck all the way back and now that it is forward, it's above the track.
If I get everything cleared, do you know if it is possible to move the (empty) sunroof to the open position again and get that thing past the track and down so when I come forward, it goes back in the channel? I feel like I made it worse and I can't find those plastic parts on their own, I only see having to get a whole new frame and they all show as discontinued.
My sunroof will not operate at all to start this repair. Can I still do this repair? Or how do I get it to the vented position?
Do the sunroof motors engage? If not, check your fuses. If so, yes, you can still remove the trim pieces that hide the sunroof panel screws. It's a lot harder to remove them, but you can get to them. Just have a magnetic retrieval tool handy or a screwed driver with magnetic bit so you don't drop the screws.
No popping noises but the sunroof wont open for me after doing this. It tries to go back but doesnt. Any advice?
Did you complete the reprogramming?
@3rdgenworkshop yes. It looks like it's the lower arm that's also broken so I guess that means I need a new track.
I had a friend replace a broken rail on my 2018 F150 Now the only button that works is the pop up which only opens a little, then when you try to slide the sunroof open and all it does is CHATTER!! as you hold the buuton. Now it wont even close! Nothng else works, cant even close the shade. Any help is appreciated!
you should still be able to unscrew the sunroof and lift the panel up from the backside to get to the rails. It's a little harder, but do able.
What kind of Krytox that you used sir ? I've been looking for those but they have several different kind
Here's the amazon link. Hope that helps.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MWLD8UO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@3rdgenworkshop thank you sir
Something must be wrong with mine I was not able to get any of these steps to correlate with my 2017 F250 sunroof
The reprogramming or the repair?
I watched your video and replaced my tracks now it seems like my tracks aren’t lining up
They might require slight adjustment forward or rear. Also, make sure you have them on the right side.
I saw another YT video. Apparently have to loosen the motor in headliner. Reset the guides in the tracks. Tighten motor back down and resycronize. I guess it’s a common thing when replacing the tracks
Hey bro. I need a big favor, I'm wanting to install the cab lights but I have the sunroof, would you give me the measurements from windshield to front of the light pods.
Sorry man. I sold that truck a few months ago and switched into a 2021 F-150. I'd gladly give you the measurements if I still had the truck. Hit up the superduty forum on Facebook. Those guys are great.
mine is stuck open. any suggestions on how to get it into the tilt position? can the glass be removed when its fully open? it wont close more then a about 2 inches.
You might be able to have two people on each side push the track down while a third closes it. Without seeing a picture of video, really hard to provide exact guidance.
@@3rdgenworkshop I was able to get in and unscrew the window. But the metal brackets just barely hit the broken track. I managed to wiggle it out after being the bracket just a hair. Now I am able to remove both peices of glass to work on it fully.
Just saved $3000 CDN by watching this video. $3000!!!!! They the stealer wanted to charge me for these 2 plastic tracks some wicket… thanks
So welcome. Glad it helped.
Mine is stuck wide open can I manualy shut it until I source parts
If you can see where the break is, maybe. I'd recommend taking the sun roof out and inspect the rails for where it catching. You should be able to remove the broken piece and then slide it back shut until parts arrive.
What if it doesn’t vent? Only the sunshade works on mine, brought it in to ford, they said broken tracks and want 1400 to fix
You should still be able to get to the screws that hold the sunroof in. If it's just the guide tracks, like in this video you can replacement with no issues, just a little more of a pain to take off the sunroof. If the full track is broken, then you have to drop the headliner and it's a much bigger repair. Honestly, I don't know how they can say the tracks are broken without a full disassembly. While the large tracks do break, it's not often. 99% of the time it's the plastic guides in this video.
could I pay you to fix mine? Not sure where you're located but the dealers are making up prices one quote was $700 another wanted $2500.
I appreciate the offer, but no thank you. Honestly it's really simple. This was the first time I'd ever done it. Just watch the video 2 or 3 times to really get the steps down. Trust me, you can do it.
So to clarify, I'm not the biggest idiot in the world, i worked at the dealer, I own a mechanic shop, i have been doing stuff like this for 15 years. These rails were a pain in the ass, and there looks like there was alot more broken in there then just the rails, I put the rails in and on the second or 3rd cycle everything including the new rails broke again, proably one of the worst designed things I have ever come acrost in mechanics. These sun roof are ridiculous, engineered to be just sufficient enough to work under normal circumstances. Ford really out did there selves with failure on this design. Hopefully get a new assembly today and everything will work
I don't understand why these components are billet aluminum. They'd never break or rust.
Where did u get the tracks
The link to the tracks is in the description section. The are from the sunroof doctor.
Too bad mine wasn’t that easy, the piece that attaches to those arms in the track broke, so now I have no idea what to do
Without a picture, hard for me to say, sorry.
What if mine is stuck open how do I go about that
Stuck open as far as the vent, or all the way back? If vented, you can just remove the screws. If open as in back v/s vented, I'd have to see a picture or video to give you any tips on it.
How is there not a TSB warranty for this yet?
There should be a recall. And they should change to aluminum or carbon fiber for these parts. The plastic is such a bad design.
What was the name of the two lubricants used?
Krytox Grease
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3M Clear Silicon Paste
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@@3rdgenworkshop I just had experienced the issue one week after purchase 2017 SD Platinum. I’ll let you know how I make out! So far, thanks for the OEM-alike source and the lubricant recommendation.
Sunroof Track Compatible for Ford F150 2015-2020 F250 F350 F450 2017-2019 Sunroof Guide Rails FL3Z-1651071-A copy this for amazon rails for the ford truck
Thanks
Question mines will not open to the vent part
Without seeing it, not sure. But you should be able to still unbolt the sunroof and take it off. It will just be a little tighter to get the the screws.
UPDATE: problem initializing ! after I push all the buttons and when pressing the last button, the sunroof pops up slightly and then starts chattering ! I manually crank the sunroof down to closed position and then try again to initialize and again after pushing the last button, it pops up and then continues to chatter until I release the button! Rinse and Repeat! A royal pain min my butt!!
Where is the chattering at? Could be you have a larger track problem. Also, I would recommend looking for an initializing steps for your specific year. There are a few tweaks to the steps in some years.
I liked the video until you smeared the grease all over the seal without cleaning it. Did you not read the WSM??
sorry, nobody is perfect. Thanks for point out that it needs to be cleaned first.
Amazing how flimsy they make these parts for such an expensive truck. i just replaced one in an 04. obviously it's been a problem for many years but Ford still hasn't made the parts any better
Yeah, you figure for a 50-100k truck they'd use metal for high break points.