Shroomless Cut Comparisons 1 (Taking Them vs Not Taking Them)

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  • This is a comparison video of optimal shroomless (NISC) cuts most people take online. In this video, I explain how much these cuts actually save and what their applications are. Let me know if I should make a part 2 to this and what I should change in the next video.
    Thanks for watching :)
    Some notes:
    Donut Plains 3 NISC can save much more if done perfectly, up to 2 seconds actually.
    (And yes I realize by now that I'm accidentally doing some of the same ideas Troy from MKWII did x) It just so happened to be a coincidence since I was requested to do this video by another person)
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  • @NeoGT
    @NeoGT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Nice video Troy

    • @SuperFX64
      @SuperFX64  7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      NeoGames&Tech wow I just realized I'm actually copying Troy so hard accidentally lmao. I should stop xd

    • @Solstice2820
      @Solstice2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m 💯th like

    • @ghazt9702
      @ghazt9702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am 694th like lol

    • @a.animations7317
      @a.animations7317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ghazt9702 well then why does it have 168 likes now

    • @dothemario8244
      @dothemario8244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@a.animations7317 on the video

  • @SunnyKhuranaViolin
    @SunnyKhuranaViolin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    "I suck because I can't do the hyrule circuit NISC so I'll just SHOW YOU MY WORLD RECORD GHOST"
    Quote SuperFX

  • @TomataSoupMan
    @TomataSoupMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is the exact sort of video I've been looking for. Very clear, very concise, and with trial data to show. Excellent video.

  • @BIGTallyWacker1
    @BIGTallyWacker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Man, I never realised how many shortcuts there are.

    • @david_ga8490
      @david_ga8490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This shows that sometimes games and videos have more to see than expected

  • @Marc474R
    @Marc474R 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Thanks for the video, I'll practice that DP3 cut.
    I only take the TTC middle path if I start first.

  • @cabledjmm
    @cabledjmm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Once I saw this title I thought it was a Troy video. Then I realized that this is MK8DX

  • @Nick867
    @Nick867 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Interesting video, pretty similar to Troy's video but no one has done this sort of thing for MK8DX yet, so it's fair game, nice job!

    • @Mel1373
      @Mel1373 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nick867 hey troy

  • @TermAscoy
    @TermAscoy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:50
    "this is how i do it online - i literally just go ahead and go into the ra- water right there and just charge an smt and release it" - SuperFX 2017

  • @WiiLord95
    @WiiLord95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great video! You should do a part 2 with 200cc shortcuts :)

  • @PEDROLITOEnFourure
    @PEDROLITOEnFourure 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! Keep up the good work

  • @guccithunder6136
    @guccithunder6136 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Video bro! I kind of had this thought the other day lol :)

  • @milkbox103
    @milkbox103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video! i like how straight to the point it is.

  • @Reksar
    @Reksar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice video bro, make a part 2! :)

  • @isaacbezanson
    @isaacbezanson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not even gonna mention what I thought this video would be about when I saw the title

  • @Ruanyx
    @Ruanyx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey FX, I'm new to mk8 so I've got a couple of questions if you don't mind?
    Sometimes I see people hopping while they're in grass. Does that help reduce the drag, or is that just a personal thing?
    Also, do you have any tips for hitting that Shy Guy Falls cut? What point to jump, etc?
    Super informational video and straight to the point. I'll definitely start keeping up with your channel!

  • @JonnyJinx04
    @JonnyJinx04 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow... had no idea you could do that Shy Guy Falls cut shroomless. Looks really hard. Nice video!

  • @ryguy2368
    @ryguy2368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What the heck are all of these acronyms?

    • @azncook87
      @azncook87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right?! That's what I'm saying! 🤣🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Reebecca7852
    @Reebecca7852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ah yes I am a complete noob to mario kart terms so this whole video is just yes i completely understand what and sst into a ttc means

  • @hermes112
    @hermes112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great useful video FX, yo should do a part two

  • @damiancooper1855
    @damiancooper1855 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should a part 2 because this is interesting

  • @iplaytennislol
    @iplaytennislol 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i didnt even know about the dragon driftway one :v. awesome vid pls do more n_n

  • @dxtrains4014
    @dxtrains4014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    mute city is hard good video

  • @damiancooper1855
    @damiancooper1855 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should do a part 2 because this is interesting

  • @hasalnuss
    @hasalnuss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would enjoy a part two

  • @jullinnematip2864
    @jullinnematip2864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job guys

  • @Chase247
    @Chase247 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey this was really useful. I was wondering if the rTTC hands at the beginning were even worth it online... thanks!

  • @jpecoca
    @jpecoca 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How do you guys charge mts so fast? I just can't do it

  • @ailroe9357
    @ailroe9357 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love a part 2

  • @AlphaOmega503
    @AlphaOmega503 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont suppose you can use the slower characters and kart combo to perform these, Ive tried it and none works. exclusive to heavy weight, faster char/kart combo?

  • @mr.potatoman729
    @mr.potatoman729 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could tou tell me what big blue ultra cut is and how much time it saves btw great vids keep up good work

  • @davidacosta193
    @davidacosta193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video

  • @pss2124
    @pss2124 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make nisc part2!! very useful

  • @mobus1603
    @mobus1603 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On Ice Ice Outpost, the first shortcut you take doesn't have to be paired with the ice covered path to the left of the main road afterward. I don't find that part to be much faster and extremely risky when playing online. Not worth the risk for the small reward, because the path is so narrow that if you even get bumped a little, you're rekt

  • @sansanabanana
    @sansanabanana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but on big blue theres a better shortcut where you take the left path after the parachute section (Right after lap 2 starts) and then jump off and hold back. If you do it right you should skip a LOT of track. You can also charge a mini turbo and hold it while in the air to get a higher chance of making the shortcut without falling anywhere you're not supposed to. Also i'm not sure how much time this saves, but at the pink and green parts on Big Blue, you can go on the pink path, jump off onto the green track, and jump off of the green track back onto the pink track. It gets me ahead most of the time and it's fairly safe, so I recommend trying it out sometime. :)

  • @DrGeorge1003
    @DrGeorge1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man is it 150cc? Or 200cc? Nice video !

  • @shadowthun237
    @shadowthun237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bests videos 'v ever seen

  • @jameswhee
    @jameswhee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What the hell are any of these initialisms

  • @Damsel_In_Distress_528
    @Damsel_In_Distress_528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah...
    Thank you.

  • @ghosttsr
    @ghosttsr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u make a tutorial on the shy guy falls grass cut

  • @Lucy-ng7cw
    @Lucy-ng7cw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you use a shroom in the short cut you should also use it when you try the non shortcut version

  • @burrito_therapy9156
    @burrito_therapy9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this video is old but can someone define the abbreviations for me?

    • @luigigreen_
      @luigigreen_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MT - Mini Turbo
      SMT - Super Mini Turbo
      UMT - Ultra mini turbo
      NISC - No Item Short Cut

  • @user-gx1fl3uq4s
    @user-gx1fl3uq4s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so yeah i got this recomended in 2021

  • @Ikdro
    @Ikdro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Video

  • @Solstice2820
    @Solstice2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative!

    • @repeater223
      @repeater223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo when you get here

    • @Solstice2820
      @Solstice2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro I forgot about this comment lol

  • @mattm1982
    @mattm1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also please do part 2!

  • @Fran-tg5yp
    @Fran-tg5yp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot the Yoshi circuit Shroomless shortcut but apart from that this is a really useful video

  • @VictorAlvarez-kn6lv
    @VictorAlvarez-kn6lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is 200cc, right?
    Or it also works on 150cc?

  • @marymarie3358
    @marymarie3358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video great

  • @isaiahcheatum9814
    @isaiahcheatum9814 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    is the dMC NISC easier on MK8DX?

  • @MP39
    @MP39 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty

  • @KondorXT
    @KondorXT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    u should do a comparison of nics and niscs on mk8 vanilla

  • @froggalexis
    @froggalexis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what do all the acronyms mean

  • @david_ga8490
    @david_ga8490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @mattm1982
    @mattm1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't for the life of me get the Dragon or Mute City shortcuts without shrooms... can't time it correctly.

  • @nonotatalllol
    @nonotatalllol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:10
    I always fall off there because my vehicle decides to trick instead of drift and then i fall off

  • @ARxSyRoO
    @ARxSyRoO 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is with the 200cc players ?

  • @DoodleAM_
    @DoodleAM_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jozeph should've done the commentary on this video

  • @JonnySalami217
    @JonnySalami217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been playing this game for years and I never noticed that platform at 4:13

  • @raggamuffin394
    @raggamuffin394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi not sure if i missed it but what does NISC actually stand for?

  • @SunnyKhuranaViolin
    @SunnyKhuranaViolin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    6:06 that's me

    • @Jib00
      @Jib00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok

  • @aq2241984
    @aq2241984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So only heavy characters can achieve these shortcuts? I only see these videos with them.

  • @edumk6945
    @edumk6945 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Super FX. I'm new to the MK8DX (4 days). I wanted to know how I can do this shroomless cut (0:13 in the video) without lose speed in the grass. I do the drifting, but the grass slow down my kart. What am I doing wrong? Can you help me?

  • @leonardomaranon
    @leonardomaranon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it 150cc or 200cc?

  • @muharovic4015
    @muharovic4015 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is ramp drifting slower?

  • @greenmanj12
    @greenmanj12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this only on 200cc?

  • @brianalejandro7420
    @brianalejandro7420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this on 150cc or 200cc?

  • @Kimscrochetandknits
    @Kimscrochetandknits 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice i love games i have 2 ps4s and a switch :)

  • @fingymower6153
    @fingymower6153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SuperFX how are you so good at MK8DX?

    • @SuperFX64
      @SuperFX64  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ChaseyPotato2017 Practice I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I will say that soft drifting is a key point in getting good times in 150cc and 200cc though.

    • @IapetosGaming
      @IapetosGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HD SuperFX Do you have any tips on Soft Drifting in Deluxe? Beacause they changed the angle and I can't get it.

    • @mr.potatoman729
      @mr.potatoman729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HD SuperFX please do a hand tutorial on soft drifting i cant get the angle

  • @jacobnsh
    @jacobnsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg i found you on timetrails

  • @ohkays5
    @ohkays5 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do any of these save time in mk8?

    • @SuperFX64
      @SuperFX64  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      カイル. Translate that most of them do, but they may not save as much as what they do in this video because of the physics.

  • @Sam-jc9pp
    @Sam-jc9pp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this 150cc?

  • @aero4171
    @aero4171 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the NISC on the fallen pillar on rDDD not faster anymore?

    • @SuperFX64
      @SuperFX64  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aero it's questionable. The current world record doesn't do it, but I have high hopes that it does save. We just need to find out the correct way to do it.

    • @KondorXT
      @KondorXT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HD SuperFX it could probably be done the mk8 vanilla method

    • @audryckdoesgaming262
      @audryckdoesgaming262 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ummmm...
      MK8 and MK8DX are two similiar but different games

  • @Oscar-xs9cv
    @Oscar-xs9cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's wrong with the word shortcut?

  • @billhsiao5974
    @billhsiao5974 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how to do the SGF's nisc consistently? I have practiced a lot but still don't know the key

    • @SuperFX64
      @SuperFX64  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bill Hsiao I may make a video on it later :)

  • @anonymousperson6124
    @anonymousperson6124 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just noticed your HAD SuperFX and you create WR

  • @bagwithmilk
    @bagwithmilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is NISC?

  • @hypotheticallycheese
    @hypotheticallycheese 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do know you took the name of the SuperFX chip, when I went to your channel I expected SuperFX snes games not Mario Kart Racing (Completely Unrelated)

  • @henry-td1ew
    @henry-td1ew 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    me who doesnt play mk8:
    mm yes very interesting

  • @ghosttsr
    @ghosttsr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    SuperFX Is super confident in soft drifts

    • @sykar7635
      @sykar7635 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No fuckin kidding

  • @zeebad17
    @zeebad17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:05

  • @ihateithere838
    @ihateithere838 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:09 for the shroomless cut he has 3 but when he does it the second time he uses 1

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually Ethan he probably used it to catch up to his shoomless shortcut ghost

  • @rugvedkulkarni1593
    @rugvedkulkarni1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does NISC stand for?

  • @myztazynizta
    @myztazynizta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does NISC mean?

  • @resumi6924
    @resumi6924 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    dBB first nisc could be done better and then is saves ~0.3 - the key is to *_land earlier_* than on your video (before barrier)
    second nisc could be done better to, to do it drive closer to barrier and land earlier doing drift *_without hop_*

    • @resumi6924
      @resumi6924 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's all :3

    • @Marc474R
      @Marc474R 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Getting umt is better than landing early

    • @resumi6924
      @resumi6924 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marc474R of course, but you can do it with landing earlier especially with online combo with faster charging mini-turbo than wr combo

    • @resumi6924
      @resumi6924 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marc474R with wr combo it's possible to

    • @Marc474R
      @Marc474R 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll try that thanks

  • @TheWiseIdiot
    @TheWiseIdiot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear that everything is better on ‘shrooms. 😉

  • @fw-flownoah6453
    @fw-flownoah6453 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    150 or 200

  • @weirdchamp4601
    @weirdchamp4601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:10 Sadge I suck at the game

  • @nickofengland
    @nickofengland 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But don't you loose a lot of speed when doing the cuts without shroom? You maybe faster at first but then you're slower and those that didn't cut will catch up?

  • @lukey_boi4603
    @lukey_boi4603 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this dx

    • @brycemkw
      @brycemkw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes

  • @WeirdDogs
    @WeirdDogs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got this from twd98... Get your own ideas

    • @theo993
      @theo993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was about a year ago, and it's his channel let him do what he wants, and plus he didn't know at the time

  • @q3hq2h59
    @q3hq2h59 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    niscの速さについての解説動画…何言ってるか全然わからん!

  • @maddin74
    @maddin74 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool! Subb and plz pt2 asp ;-)

  • @pablofx6300
    @pablofx6300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fernanfloo

  • @santiago-fd3qr
    @santiago-fd3qr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like si vienes por Fernán xd

  • @bobbob5007
    @bobbob5007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is ONLY ON SINGLE PLAYER THIS IS WORTHLESS IN ONLJJE PLAY

  • @vrimb1
    @vrimb1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    too many abriviations, stop talking in your own language

  • @damiancooper1855
    @damiancooper1855 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should a part 2 because this is interesting