Why Do Catholics Believe in Purgatory?
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- Does purgatory exist? Should we pray for the dead? Chris Stefanick and Catholic theologian Dr. Michael Barber sit down and define what Catholics believe about purgatory and the ancient Christian practice of praying for the dead.
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This was a really good, and easy to follow, explanation of purgatory. I appreciated understanding it better, and being able to share something with friends who ask!
Loved your explanation of purgatory.
I'm so glad am Catholic ☺️
The words of the criminals hanging on the cross next to Jesus - "If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us." The other rebuked him, saying, ..."We receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong." Then he said to
Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom. And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today
you will be with Me in Paradise" Luke 23:39-43
No conflict whatsoever with Catholic teaching.
It’s important to read the scriptures. In 1 Corinthians 3, it is not the person that is being put through the fire, but each persons “work” that is tested.
1 Corinthians 3:11 “For no one can lay any other foundation than the one we already have - Jesus Christ. Know anyone who builds on that foundation May use gold, silver, jewels, wood, hey or straw. But there is going to come a time of testing at the judgment day to see what kind of work each builder has done. Everyone’s work will be put through the fire to see weather or not it keeps its value. If the work survived the fire, that builder will receive a reward. But if the work is burned up, the builder we will suffer great loss. The builders themselves will be saved, but like someone escaping through a wall of flames.”
We must be very careful of false doctrine especially now during these times of deception in many of the churches. God bless you, sharing the truth in love.
Scripture refers God as refiner's fire and fuller's soap (Malachi 3:2). There must be reason why Scripture says so - both have something to do with refining and cleansing. Zech 13:8-9 says that God will put some, NOT their works, into fire as one refines silver and test gold.
The main reason why you have problem with purgatory is because you follow the teaching of the Reformers of double imputation: Through faith alone you will receive Christ's righteousness imputed on or credited to you while your sins, past and future, are imputed on or credited to Christ, who bore them on the cross. When you are taught that your past and future sins are credited to Christ who bore them on the cross, then purgatory will make what Christ did insufficient. But is double imputation scriptural? Ezekiel 18:20 says "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself". Both righteousness and wickedness are not transferrable!
You can't separate work from the person doing it. As this Sctmripture states, we receive recompense for the evil we do. That means punishment. It's the wood, straw, hay of our life getting burned up.
2 Corinthians 5:10
For all of us must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each may receive recompense for what has been done in the body, whether good or evil.
Reading from the Jerusalem Bible of the Roman Catholic Church used today concerning this passage 1 Cor. 3:11 about Purgatory. But in the footnotes concerning this scripture it is said "This is not a direct reference to purgatory but several Doctors of the Church have used this as a basis for that doctrine."
Jesus said it is finished!
He also said when we are judged, we'll be thrown in prison and we won't get out till we paid the last penny. Paul also says,
2 Corinthians 5:10
For all of us must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each may receive recompense for what has been done in the body, whether good or evil.
We will get recompense for the evils we do while in the body after death. That is punishment. That is purgatory.
What was finished? Prior to the resurrection, prior to the ascension, prior to Pentecost?
It’s not God that needs purgatory - it’s us that need it to enter. read the CS Lewis argument. You wouldn’t show up to your wedding in rags and in need of a shower would you?
Jesus said alot of things. Context is everything. ❤
"Purgatory is where the mercy of God tempers the justice of God." Fulton Sheen
It has other benefits. Fills those empty coffers. :-)
@@thomasc9036, misconception. Historical distortion.
@@thomasc9036my church has never asked for money for forgiveness of sins and never even speaks of donations. All voluntary. If you feel pressured that's on you.
Damn I don’t see the Bible in this quote
@@thomasc9036The trap of Luther's own making for he was so Envious driven by Greed about indulgence. His protest was useless for until now Purgatory is still part of the teaching of the Catholic Church. Are you his victim?😊😊😊
I think it was Dr. Brant Pitre who brings up the parable in Luke 12:43-48. In this set of parables Jesus is explaining what dying and judgement will be like. This particular parable talks of the faithful going to Heaven (put in charge of all possessions), the unfaithful servant being cast out (hell) with the unfaithful; then there is the category of those not deserving either, but will receive punishment (some severe, some light); but not cast out into the eternal darkness. Seems like a spot on description of purgatory to me.
talks about the believers life not purgatory. keep reading you'll see. bur have the holy spirit guide you. pray before reading. don't just take word of man and combine it with your wisdom. as that is foolish
@@Luke--rx6oj There are many layers to every parable. The gest of this one is the Master goes away for a long time leaving the servants to run the house. I would agree that while the Master is away, that time period represents either our life individually, or the time period between the Ascension of Jesus and His Second Coming, or both. When the Master returns, sees what the servants have done and judges them, would then represent our individual death where we go to meet Jesus at our immediate judgement, or it could also be the moment of His Second Coming when we are all judged together at the General Judgement (Final Judgement). Either interpretation will still give you Purgatory if you look at the fate of the last two servants who get either a heavy or light beating, but that is it.
No sin is to enter heaven. If death was some sort of magic door that suddenly makes all of us Saints (perfected); then it would be cruel of God to leave us on Earth suffering when He could just snap His finger, kill us and we could enter heaven. The process of Purgation begins the moment we become Christian and pick up our Cross and follow Jesus. If that process is not finished by the time of our deaths, then the purgation continues but it is ramped up tremendously; which is why many of the saints who have been shown visions of purgatory say we need to get as much done here as possible as the pain of it is much less to accomplish the same thing.
Purgatory is not a second chance. It is just the final stage for those who are in friendship with Christ but still have Earthly attachments especially to sin. I think we al know a few people like that including ourselves.
Then there's this one.
2 Corinthians 5:10
For all of us must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each may receive recompense for what has been done in the body, whether good or evil.
We will receive recompense for the evils we've done. That means punishment to fit our crimes.
@@Luke--rx6oj Read it again. There are 3 people showing 3 possibilities: those who are sanctified (verse 44), those who will be "cut in two" (Luke 12:46), and those who need purification (verse 47-48)
Better yet, what did the early Church say about this? Also, ever wonder why the Church is an article of faith in the creed? Interesting that it's not just an invisible and non-specific group who can do whatever they want based on how they decide to interpret the Bible. How can 1 Tim 3:15 be true if there are so many thousands of "Bible believing" churches out there? It is an absolute contradiction.
The Holy Spirit purge's us also we are perfect in Christ Jesus when we come through the blood of the Lamb and receive His righteousness. No sir there is no such thing as praying for the dead they are dead once your gone your life on earth is over you have one chance to receive eternal life on this side of glory.
I have heard Rabbi’s say purgatory last for 11 months, not sure were they get that from or how they would know that. I’ve never heard Christians give a time line on it. Any thoughts? Thanks!
How long is a piece of string. Various saints have said it can last years or decades but time in purgatory would be different to time on Earth. Also depends on how many people pray for a soul and offer masses.
@@gold3084the bible according to gold. 😂 literally making stuff up
Yes the second great commandment is about living your neighbor. This one I think is broken by most people who say they are christian, what God hates most is man hating his fellow man, but many Christians are quilty if this. Even in the many Sunday school classes of the many denominations,this is not taught because of the widespread racism that excist in the United States. Go to confession , pray to Mary, and love your neighbor. And yes I'm a cradle Catholic of Sicilian decent, and yes I firmly believe in purgatory!
i wish all of these denominations, muslims, jews, and the Church would stop fighting and get along while respecting each others differences
@@ThatOneHacker305well the thing is, there is only one true and objective reality and each person’s soul is dependent upon their relationship with God. Fighting is caused by Satan. An open and loving conversation educating one another on each others differences is God. And God’s sheep know His voice. So yes we need to respect one another differences and not fight but we also need to remember there is only one truth. What do you think out of curiosity? Maybe you thought this as well~ 😊
John 14 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
It is universalism
I was told that the fires of purgatory in the area of brink of hell are like the fires of hell but a soul has hope to see God. Now I'm being told the fires are are of God's love. Could the fires of God's love be the "other end" of purgatory?
Praise GOD FOR HIS MERCIFUL LOVE. However, we should NOT take his mercy for GRANTED. NO NOT HAVE A LACK OF ZEAL TO AVOID SIN & TO WORK TOWARDS LOVING HIM & BEING FAITHFUL TO HIM EVERYDAY. Many Catholics take for granted our LORD JESUS IN THE EUCHARIST & RECEIVE HIM NOT BEING IN THE STATE OF GRACE. THAT HARMS OUR SOULS WHEN WE RECEIVE HIM IN SIN. GO TO CONFESSION WITH INTENTION YOU WILL TO EVERYTHING IT TAKES TO NOT SIN. GOD BLESS.
Purgatory is the biggest disrespect to Jesus.
His blood wasn’t enough
I still don't get it..
When does it happen? If you can't pray for those in hell bc there's no longer salvation, and those who are in heaven don't need it anymore, how would we know?? How can we know??
Is fire of love also the Holy Spirit? Also, when does purging of spirit happen? On the verge of dying??
We can always pray for the dead because it is an act of love. Christians have been doing it for over 2,000 years and the Jewish people well before that. The New Testament also tells us that the apostle Paul prayed for the dead. After praying for the household of a man named Onesiphorus, Paul goes on to pray “may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day” (2 Tim. 1:18). Paul twice mentions “the household of Onesiphorus” (2 Tim. 1:16, 4:19), but does not greet him with the rest of his household and speaks of him only in the past tense. We don't have to concern ourselves about what state their soul is in when someone dies - we can just love them and this is done through prayer. Hope this helps?
Helped me. Ty @@clivejames5058
How do you pray for the dead?
With words & reverence. Often with gratitude.
Simply....The Rosary. Read the book The Secret Of The Rosary by St. Louis de Montfort.
One simple prayer for the dead or the departed:
"ETERNAL REST GRANT UNTO ______ (state the person's name), OH, LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON HIM/HER. MAY HE/SHE REST IN PEACE. AMEN."
You may repeat this prayer for 3 times, in the same way Jesus repeated His "agonizing" prayer for 3 times to God the Father in the Garden of Gethsemane.
It may also be a good idea that you follow this prayer with our prayers of "Our Father," "Hail Mary" and "Glory Be," as you ask God the Father this favor, ask our Mother Mary to pray for him/her as well, and to glorify our Truine God for this favor...
Does this make sense to you?
@@voxangeli9205 yes, basically. Thanks.
You have to know how to pray for the living first. See your nearest minister for instructions.
God bless you.
If Hell may be crowded, imagine Purgatory as we are all sinners. Not a nice place to be, so use the Catholic tools to get out of there asap (scapular highly recommended), frequent confession, etc…
Can't help your,u have to be born again,mass and confession can't rescue you,just repent and trust Jesus only while keeping out from deliberately sinning
My argument against Purgatory is not that it isn't in the Bible, it is because Purgatory enstates Jesus's sacrifice on the cross was a failure and that he did not pay for all of our sins.
When we die, we die in a state of sin, an inclination to sin.
When we enter heaven, we are 100% righteous as NOTHING unclean shall enter heaven (Rev 21).
So there is a process, between our death and heaven were we BECOME clean. No desire for sin whatsoever. Catholics have a word for this process. Protestants never give the process a thought.
That's not what Purgatory is about , Jesus saved us from eternal damnation which is hell.
Purgatory is a place where souls who have died in the friendship of Christ are promised eternal life in heaven , but need to be purified of their sins because no sin can enter into heaven.
Saint Veronica Guiliani and Saint Faustina saw visions of hell. You can read their diaries and descriptions
@@TruthHasSpoken Thanks for your explaination...can you just point out where exactly in the bible does this say where when we die we go thru a cleansing process.?
@@peterbire2699 "where exactly in the bible does this say where when we die we go thru a cleansing process.?"
_"12 Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble- 13 each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire._ (1 Cor 3)
Quick recap
- the passage above is teaching a spiritual lesson of life after death
- those in hell can not be saved
- those in heaven can not suffer loss
- the spiritual fire is the cleansing of the soul as _nothing unclean can enter heaven
- all those in heaven are 100% righteous with no inclination to sin.
A portion of St Thomas Aquinas and his commentary on this passage:
_164. - Secondly, he shows the means by which it will be disclosed, namely, by fire; hence he continues: because it shall be revealed with fire, namely, the day of the Lord: for the day of judgment will be revealed in the fire which will precede the face of the judge, burning the face of the world, enveloping the wicked and cleansing the just. Ps 96 (v. 3) says of this: “Fire goes before him, and burns up his adversaries round about.” But the day of the Lord which occurs at death will be revealed in the fire of purgatory, by which the elect will be cleansed, if any require cleansing: Job (__23:10__) can be interpreted as referring to this fire: “When he has tried me, I shall come forth as god.” Finally, the day of the Lord, which is the day of tribulation permitted by God’s judgment, will be revealed in the fire of tribulation: “For gold is tested in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of humiliation” (Sir 2:5)._
Part of St Augustine's commentary below
_It is then, I say, the same reason which prevents the Church at any time from praying for the wicked angels, which prevents her from praying hereafter for those men who are to be punished in eternal fire; and this also is the reason why, though she prays even for the wicked so long as they live, she yet does not even in this world pray for the unbelieving and godless who are dead. For some of the dead, indeed, the prayer of the Church or of pious individuals is heard; but it is for those who, having been regenerated in Christ, did not spend their life so wickedly that they can be judged unworthy of such compassion, nor so well that they can be considered to have no need of it.1547 As also, after the resurrection, there will be some of the dead to whom, after they have endured the pains proper to the spirits of the dead, mercy shall be accorded, and acquittal from the punishment of the eternal fire. For were there not some whose sins, though not remitted in this life, shall be remitted in that which is to come, it could not be truly said, “They shall not be forgiven, neither in this world, neither in that which is to come.”1548 But when the Judge of quick and dead has said, “Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world,” and to those on the other side, “Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire, which is prepared for the devil and his angels,” and “These shall go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life,”1549 it were excessively presumptuous to say that the punishment of any of those whom God has said shall go away into eternal punishment shall not be eternal, and so bring either despair or doubt upon the corresponding promise of life eternal._
There’s still temporal punishment as discipline leading to purification Hebrews 12:6-11,23
Why wasn’t the concept of purgatory discussed by the orthodox synod in any of the councils they had? Oh wait it’s because it’s a baseless concept that only the Catholics brought up after splitting from the synod… it’s from the same church that thinks that the pope is “infallible” too
Exactly right
The Pope is only infallible when he speaks ex-cathedra - which is actually very rare. As to purgatory, it's really about how your works will be viewed and dealt with 'on the day' and 1 Cor 3:11-15 makes this very clear. If you have faith in Christ, repent, are baptised and actively pursue a life of holiness, you will die in a state of grace. Nothing to worry about.
@@clivejames5058 one of those ex cathedra moments include the immaculate birth, which is innovation to the catechism of the church in my opinion. With regards to the verse mentioned, how could purgatory exist to "cleanse" or purge people considering that Christ was the final sacrifice that reopened heaven for us again? God will judge us according to our deeds but is merciful to understand our failed nature. Like you mentioned beautifully towards the end, as long as one does their everything for God then one should expect a life of peace with Him.
@@clivejames5058 by the way I am a coptic orthodox Christian but I do highly respect the catholic faith a lot for their apostolic succession.
I love ❤ this. Purgatory is simply getting us clean to enter into heaven.
Let's keep praying 🙏 for the dead. Pray the St. Gertrude Chaplet
Thank you,
Jesus blood is sufficient.
No more cleaning is necessary. Paul himself said, "His Grace is sufficient for me." But Purgatory is found nowhere in the Bible.
@@GhostBearCommander Trinity is found nowhere in the bible, either.
@@bengoolie5197 Wrong. Jesus told us to pray in the name of the Father,Son, and the Holy Ghost. No w show me where Jesus told us to pray for the dead ? Jesus also spoke numerous times about his relationship and in interaction with the father and the spirit.
@@2696ize That is no rebuttal. Show me where the word "Trinity" is found in the bible.
@@bengoolie5197 It’s a perfect rebuttal. You just refuse to acknowledge. Your thinking is flawed. The word automobile is not in the Bible either. But the trinity is clearly in the Bible, even though the word is not. Even you as a catholic acknowledge that. So I ask you again, where does Jesus talk about purgatory in scripture? Specifically?
Here is the Biblical explanation of hell. Jesus taught that all people would be either saved lost or, that they would go to either heaven or hell. “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.” No question about it, it’s one place or the other according to Jesus. What goes to hell? Jesus answers it for us in Matthew 5:30 “And if thy right hand offends thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.” He says the “whole body” would be cast into hell, not a spirit or “soul”. BTW, the term “soul” is defined in Genesis 2:7 “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” It says here man “became a living soul”, not that he was given a soul. He, man, was formed of the dust of the earth and given the breath of life from God, or the metabolism, the spark of life if you will and became a soul. In a ship disaster they say, “All souls on board were lost”, meaning all people. So the whole “body” will be cast into hell. When does this happen? Not at the moment of death. According to Jesus it in the parable of the wheat and the tares, Matthew 13:29 - 43, it happens at the harvest and “the harvest is the end of the world” (verse 39). 2 Peter 2:9 says, “The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished”. Where are the unjust “reserved”. Jesus says in John 5:28 & 29 “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” When will those in their graves hear His voice and come forth? At Christs 2nd coming. When does Christ reward the good and the evil? Mathew 16:27 “For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.” When He comes again. Revelation 22:12 “And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.” Daniel 12:2 “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” They are “reserved” in the grave until then. Then where is hell? 2 Peter3:7 & 10 “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.” And “…and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” He says the earth is “reserved” for that purpose. Also see Isaiah 34:8 & 9 and Psalm 11:6. Matthew 10:28 Jesus said “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”. He said God will “destroy” body and soul in hell, meaning all of the unsaved, every part of them, will be destroyed. Not punished eternally. Would God do that, eternally torment and torture someone who chose to believe in evolution but lived a relatively good life? Not the God of the Bible. He will destroy them and they will suffer the 2nd death. Revelation 20:14 & 15 says “ And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”. The unsaved suffer eternal death not eternal suffering. Is that not bad enough, to be eternally separated from God. Must He torture people forever? So after a trillion years of torture, exquisite pain and suffering, God will tell those suffering “You have only just begun”? Whoa, really? That’s not what the Bible teaches, that’s not the God of the Bible. Jesus said, “Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.” Also see 2 Peter 3:13. How long do they burn? How can we inherit it if it is a lake of fire? John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” and Roman 6:23 says “The wages of sin is death”. 1 John 5:11 & 12 “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” John 3:16 says unbelievers will “perish” and Paul say the wages of sin is death. Ezekiel 18:4 makes it clearer “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” It is clear, the unsaved die, not live forever. So, what Jesus tells us about hell is that it is the final destination of those who do not choose salvation through Jesus, that an unsaved persons “whole body” will be cast into hell and not a “soul” or “spirit”, they will be destroyed in hell and not suffer eternally. Their punishment will be eternal. There will be no second chances after that, but they will not be tortured forever, they will be eternally destroyed. Hell is not eternal. It’s consequences are. Hell will be on this earth and sin will be burnt up with sinners then the earth will be made new. A new heaven and a new earth, free from sin where God and His people will live together. All this is taught in the Bible, from the mouth of Jesus. Check it out for yourself. Don’t take my word or the word of anyone else. Your life depend on you knowing the Truth personally. Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life”. Trust Him and His Word only. Blessings as you study His Word. Purgatory is not Biblical
May God grant you repentence to the acknowledging of the truth, and may He lead you out of your heresy.
purgatory is not a place for sinners it is for the saved. do you think that you and i, unholy blemished prople, can go to heaven in this form? no, we must still be punished for our sins and become pure through suffering. you can’t just say im sorry jesus and expect the trinity to just forget there are still punishments for our actions no matter how sorry you are. what if a known serial murder was released from court because he had said im sorry and he had meant it in his heart. that criminal would still be punished
Semi-Pelagianism. The ideaof infused personal holiness stems from a flawed soteriology. It's not like there is atonement and then sanctification as a separate process. We don't pay for our salvation with post-mortem suffering. Jesus did that. We don't have the currency. Only the blood of the God Man atones. See Hebrews.
Scripture refers God as refiner's fire and fuller's soap (Malachi 3:2). There must be reason why Scripture says so - both have something to do with refining and cleansing. Zech 13:8-9 says that God will put some into fire as one refines silver and test gold.
The main reason why Protestants have problem with purgatory is because they follow the teaching of the Reformers of double imputation: Through faith alone they will receive Christ's righteousness imputed on or credited to them while their sins, past AND future, are imputed on or credited to Christ, who bore them on the cross. If all their sins, past and future are credited to Christ who bore them on the cross, then purgatory will make what Christ did insufficient. But is double imputation scriptural? Ezekiel 18:20 says "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself". Both righteousness and wickedness are not transferrable!
exactly, even if we are forgiven, like a child caught disobeying, we still need to be punished
It's called sanctification by the Holy Spirit
Watching this video made me a lot angry. Dr Michael Barber should be a Catholic theologian and an active one at that.
I, as a European Catholic, see so much justification and condescension to Protestants here that, frankly, I am amazed and very uncomfortable.
There is no Protestant Bible - there is one Bible that the heretic Luther "edited" to the extent that he initially removed 25 books from it.
You americans are amazing.
You have succeeded in creating some kind of alternative Mickey Mouse Protestant theology that does not really exist anywhere else but in the USA.
To us, catholics, such and such theology is simply unbelievable.
US Catholics allow themselves to be convinced by members of sects, because by all official definitions of things you call "denominations" are sects, that some kind of theology was created 1517 years after Christ by a fallen monk - correct??
History shows otherwise. Culture shows otherwise. Theology shows otherwise, and then instead of one Doctor thundering the truth, explaining and refuting the nonsense presented by Protestants - he makes videos like this? Reminds me of Doge meme.
According to purgatory doctrine it's necessary because no one with the stain of sin and imperfection can enter Heaven before being purged of such. How then was Elijah taken up into Heaven having disobeyed by omission 2 of 3 commands he had recently received on Sinai?
"Elijah taken up into Heaven"
Purged along the way as NOTHING unclean can enter heaven.
"Come now, and let us reason together," says the LORD, "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be whiter than snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Isaiah 1:18. "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9
"Jesus paid it ALL, ALL to Him I owe; sin had left a crimson stain, He washed it white as snow."... Mrs. H.M. Hall
any idea where Isaiah 1:18 came from? It’s from the Jewish culture wherein they tie a red rope on the escape goat which was symbolizes all the sins committed by the Israelites while they are still in the desert. That goat is led out of their encampment and needs to be driven out should it try to enter. As long as it remains red, they knew their sins were not forgiven, on the other hand, if it turns white then they’ll knew they were forgiven. They are in the desert … I have no idea where that “snow” came from. Figuratively, it sounds great but the idea of a snow in the desert is questionable
What Jesus did is He opened the doors to Heaven which were shut to all up to that point. Jesus said He is the Way, He showed us the Way. He then commanded us to follow Him if we want to go through those open doors. We still have to walk the path He showed us before we too can be there. The fact Jesus is there now doesn't automatically put us there unless we go there now ourselves. You non-catholics have some funny weird ideas.
@@39knights We need to put all of our faith in the LORD and His Holy Word - the Bible. Only what He teaches is truth. Proverbs 30:5-6 says to us, "Every word of God is found pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He reprove you, and you be found a liar."
@@donnaschmid2501 '.... put all of our faith in the LORD and His Holy Word - the Bible...' Certainly; but then which Bible (the non-Catholic, non-authorative chopped up mish-mash of missing books and corrupted translations). Even if we could agree upon a Bible (which we probably can't); then whose interpretation will we agree upon???? Since the madness of the mentally insane Luther, Protestantism as an umbrella group of self-interpretation has created a minimum of 40,000 plus conflicting and confusing sects ALL claiming they alone have cornered the Holy Spirit and the Truth???!!!!! Those are the fruits of the diabolical; not the Holy Spirit, by anyone's standards.
So once you have abandoned the Apostolic Faith; its everyone's opinion up for grabs as the 'truth'. I am going to stick with the biblical christianity found only in the Catholic Faith today. You can continue to follow Mrs H.M Hall if you like.
@@39knights We have funny ideas? Catholics pray to Mary and other mere humans. And you believe the Pope, another mere human is perfect, when the Bible tells us that the only perfect human being that ever lived was Jesus.
I'm sorry, but this idea of purgatory is based largely on speculation, not Scripture. This doctrine is in no way like the Trinity, where we have various passages throughout the Bible supporting the doctrine. Purgatory is based on speculation and non-canonical documents.
no purgatory is a canon event
THE WORD PURGATORY APPEARS IN 1200 THE ORTHODOXY TEACH THAT IN HADES OR SHEOL OR HELL THERE IS NO REPENTANCE OR PURICATION.ONLY THE PRAYERS OF THE CHURCH CAN HELP THE DEADS
THE HADES OR THE HEL HAS NOT YET THE FIRE IT S A PLACE OF SADNESS WHERE THE SOULS ARE WAITING THE LAST JUDGEMENT WHEN JESUS CHRIST WILL APPEAR WITH GLORY THAT NOBODY HAS SEEN UNTIL TODAY..
If anyone doubts purgatory, you are not believing the words of the Virgin Mary who speaks of it.
Nowhere in scripture does it state that when we die we are “called into God’s self-giving life-giving love” as stated in the video. When a person dies “Their body returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it (Ecclesiastes 12:7).
It remains that way either until the second coming of Yeshua/Jesus (for believers in Yeshua) or the Great White Throne Judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) where non-believers will be thrown into the lake of fire.
The concept of purgatory after a person dies is contrary to Yeshua’s finished work on the cross (John 19:28-30). Basing the idea of purgatory on ancient beliefs as stated in the video does not make it correct or biblical.
1 Corinthians 3:13
The fire mentioned will come on "the Day" meaning the "day of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah" in 1 Corinthians 1:8. This is the day of Yeshua's judgment that will come during the end times. This is when a person will be judged for their works as a believer. It is not to judge their sin.
People must put their faith in Yeshua while they are still alive to receive eternal life. Once they have and then pass away, they will be raised to everlasting glory when He returns. If they still needed “further purification” as taught by the Catholic church, then then the blood of Yeshua is not enough (1 John 1:7).
In the Compendium of The Catechism of the Catholic Church, it states that Purgatory is for those who “die in God’s friendship”. This would seem to indicate that it is for believers in Yeshua.
Sadly, there are some who follow the Catholic religion whose family members are non-believers and have passed away that find false hope in this doctrine. Asking someone, either living or dead (the Saints), for help getting a loved one into Heaven, will not change the fate of the deceased.
If it could, then Yeshua was crucified for nothing.
The Catholic interpretation of scripture makes a lot more sense than the Protestant man-made interpretation. The Catholic Church has tradition passed down directly from Jesus and the Apostles. I'd rather take their word for it than some Protestant who has read whatever he wants into the text of the Bible.
@@isoldam Validate what you just wrote about TRADITION passed down from Jesus and the Apostles. You can't because it would be a complete contradiction of scripture.
@@heartfortorah
II Thessalonians 2:15
II Thessalonians 3:6
I Corinthians 11:2
“For although the languages of the world are different, yet the import of the tradition is one and the same. For the churches which have been planted in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, nor do those in Spain, nor those in Gaul.” (1.330, 331).*
“When, however, they [the Gnostics] are confuted from the Scriptures, they turn around and accuse these same Scriptures as if they were not correct….But, again, when we refer them to that tradition which originates from the apostles, which is preserved by means of the successions of presbyters in the churches, they object to tradition, saying that they themselves are wiser not merely than the presbyters, but even than the apostles.” (1.415).*
“In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles and the preaching of the truth have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and the same life-giving faith, which has been preserved in the church from the apostles until now, and handed down in truth.” (1.416)*
“Papias [A.D. 120], who is now mentioned by us, affirms that he received the sayings of the apostles from those who accompanied them, and he, moreover, asserts that he heard in person Aristion and the presbyter John. Accordingly, he mentions them frequently by name, and in his writings gives their traditions [concerning Jesus]. . . . [There are] other passages of his in which he relates some miraculous deeds, stating that he acquired the knowledge of them from tradition” (fragment in Eusebius, Church History 3:39 [A.D. 312]).
“In the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric. This man had seen the blessed apostles and had been conversant with them. Therefore, he might be said to have the preaching of the apostles still echoing [in his ears] and their traditions before his eyes. Nor was he alone in this. For there were many still remaining who had received instructions from the apostles. (1.416)*
Now all these [heretics] are of much later date than the bishops to whom the apostles committed the Churches; which fact I have in the third book taken all pains to demonstrate. It follows, then, as a matter of course, that these heretics aforementioned, since they are blind to the truth, and deviate from the [right] way, will walk in various roads; and therefore the footsteps of their doctrine are scattered here and there without agreement or connection. But the path of those belonging to the Church circumscribes the whole world, as possessing the sure tradition from the apostles, and gives unto us to see that the faith of all is one and the same, since all receive one and the same God the Father, and believe in the same dispensation regarding the incarnation of the Son of God, and are cognizant of the same gift of the Spirit, and are conversant with the same commandments, and preserve the same form of ecclesiastical constitution, and expect the same advent of the Lord, and await the same salvation of the complete man, that is, of the soul and body. And undoubtedly the preaching of the Church is true and steadfast, in which one and the same way of salvation is shown throughout the whole world. [Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 5, Ch. 20]
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Paul was a Jewish man who was raised to be Torah observant and studied under Gamliel who was one of the greatest teachers of the Torah at the time. Paul himself stated that he was himself a Pharisee of Pharisees (Acts 23:6).
In the books of II Thessalonians and 1 Corinthians, Paul is writing to Messianic believers who have come to faith in Yeshua (Jesus).
In the passage you referenced in 1 Corinthians 11:2, you must also take into account what is said in the previous verse where Paul writes “Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Messiah.
Paul never would have taught anything that was outside of the teachings of Yeshua or Torah. He would have been well aware of the traditions of men Yeshua chastised the rabbis for such as the ritual handwashing in Luke 11:38-39 and Matthew 15:2-3. So when he spoke about traditions that have been handed down, they would have most certainly been based on Torah not the man-made traditions of the Catholic church.
The teachings and doctrine of men is why Yeshua said in Mark 7:8-9 “And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ Having left behind the commandment of God, you hold on to the tradition of men.” He was also telling them, “You set aside the commands of God, in order that you may validate your own tradition.
And in Mark 7:13
“Making void the word of God with your tradition that you’ve handed down. And you do many such things.”
Paul’s writings based on Torah are in direct contrast to the man-made traditions of the Catholic church such as: Purgatory, Indulgences, Praying to Mary and the Saints and changing God’s 4th Commandment, the Sabbath, from Saturday to Sunday. Something Yeshua or Paul never would have agreed with or taught.
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@@heartfortorah, 1) may your Judaizing heresy go back to Hell where it came from.
2) I am not a Catholic, although the Catholic Church is closer to the truth than you are. May Rome repent of the small number of errors She has and come home to the Orthodox Church.
3) I will stick with the New Covenant made with Jesus's own blood, and, instead of calling Him and His Church liars, I will obey everything He and the Apostles handed on to the Church to believe and practice, both that which they entrusted to the Church through God-breathed Sacred Scripture and that which they entrusted to the Church through God-breathed Sacred Tradition.
Genesis 3/5 for God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God knowing the difference between good and evil and blessing and calamity
And here is where you need to be aware about twisting the word of God but the serpent said to the woman you shall Not surely die
Anybody or priest who believes in purgatory has no idea what was acompish on the cross Hebrews 1 v 3 says when Jesus had PURGED our sins sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high read also Ephesians 1 v 7 this priest is also twisting scriture to teach purgatory, Jesus blood satified the wrath of God He became the only offering for sin, fath in Christ ALONE removes ALL the true believers sin NOT PURGATORY
Do you claim that the Apostle Paul is lying in Romans 7 when he says with his mind he serves God, but he sees in his flesh a different law that prevents him from doing the good he wants to do?
"What is Purgatory"? A false doctrine.
Purgatory is not a Scriptural teaching. Instead, it is merely a Catholic man-made tradition. As The New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on tradition, not on Sacred Scripture."
Uh oh, someone didn't watch the video... did they? Shame shame
@@FullDottle Some don't read the Bible either, do they. Shame, shame.
@@cbooth151 What do you or the founders of your religiously associated denomination have that Jesus Christ himself lacked? The Catholic Church and it's sacred traditions were started by the Apostles. All these other Christian organizations take from what the Catholics provided for them and cherry pick scriptures to fit their made up doctrines. Not everything Jesus taught his apostles is written in scripture according to the apostle John. Your religion probably started by some reformer who decided to interpret the scriptures for themselves which wasn't even available for everyone till hundreds of years after the first established church. So again I ask you what do the founders of your religious organization have that Jesus Christ himself lacked in? Since clearly you believe another religion not established by Christ himself is apparently true.
@@TruLuan "Not everything Jesus taught his apostles is written in scripture according to the apostle John."
At John 8:31, Jesus said: "If you obey my teaching, you are really my disciples." So, where in the Bible did Jesus teach his apostles about purgatory? *NOWHERE!!* As The New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on tradition, not on Sacred Scripture." So, are you implying in your quote above that purgatory is one of those doctrines that is _not_ found in Scripture? Yes or no?
@@TruLuan You're only confusing yourself, pal. Out of one side of your mouth, you say that purgatory is Scriptural, while out of the other side of your mouth, you say that not everything Jesus taught is in the Bible. How sad for you. Maybe you should read this quote slowly from The Catholic Encyclopedia, which says: "The Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on tradition, not on Sacred Scripture."
The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: "In the final analysis, the Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on Tradition, NOT SACRED SCRIPTURE!"
And since the Bible tells us that Sacred Tradition is as authoritative over the Church as Sacred Scripture is, we ought to listen to both.
that tradition was started by the apostles, so bring it up with them
"is based on Tradition, NOT SACRED SCRIPTURE!""
Sounds too like your bible's table of contents
How do you guys sleep at night?
Fortunately we are part of the Apostolic Biblical Church founded by Jesus and the Apostles. That way we know we have the true gospel and the true church. Helps us sleep quite well. It is you who have created a false sect and a false theology to comfort your wayward consciences who should sleep with one eye open.
I do not believe in this Catholic belief of Purgatory,I believe the Catholic Church has put fear into it's parishioner's,and they fear going against the Catholic Church so they adhere to this false teaching that twists God's word to mean what they want it to.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
I notice you use the KJV (which is a man-made false bible). So if Catholics are twisting the bible to somehow produce 'purgatory'; then what exactly do you call what you are doing to 'un-produce' the concept of purgatory???? You guys had to go out and invent your own idea of scriptures which cut pieces of scripture out, changed words, etc. just to get scripture to say what you want!!!! Such hypocrisy.
@@39knights I invented nothing.
@@spiritwarriorsofchrist '....I invented nothing....' Really!!!!
First where do you actually believe the KJV (or even the Bible) come from??? Jesus didn't write it; the Jews did not have a settled canon until well into 150AD and even then it was specifically an anti-christian canon. Except for Paul (who was not an original 12), and perhaps John; none of the Apostles wrote any of their own material. NONE of the original manuscripts for the NT exist today. By 385AD when the Catholic Church created the First and Only Bible; there were over 5000 pieces, scraps, forgeries, of claimed inspired texts spread all over Christendom. So at a time when ALL of Christendom was in agreement about the Authority of Rome; they whittled this 5000 down to 73 books. Based solely on their claimed and believed Authority to do so; did the Catholic Church at that time that these specific 73 were indeed God-breathed and inerrant. Without that Authorative claim from Apostolic Succession you would not have a Bible as it is known and used today even by Sola Scripturists.
Without that history behind what you claim is scripture; then you have INVENTED a fake scripture with a false unsubstantiated claim to be the Word of God and Inerrant. So what are you using as your source against Catholicism when you claim to be interpreting 'scripture'????? You have no idea of what it is and why you can trust it. You may as well quote the Koran or the Hindu Vadas with equal authority as to claim the KJV is the Bible. If you can't see that point, then you are truly clueless and should not be debating.
Your second invention is the way you have interpreted your false scriptures. Who died and left you the interpreter for me about scripture?? I read the same words and get a much different understanding which agrees with the Catholic Faith. The whole history of protestantism is replete with split after split after split of disagreements about what the supposed bible says to the point where since the great deformation of Christianity caused by Luther, in 500 years you now have over 40,000 conflicting and confusiing interpretations. Not a single one of them can substantiate a claim to be Apostolic or have the Authority which the Catholic Faith can easily establish.
If an idol is a false image worshipped by others of the truth then you guys have made an idol of the bible (unsubstantiated scriptures) and Jesus (false theology based on false scriptures and unauthorized interpretations). Way to go guys. This is your invented world. Own it.
Scripture refers God as refiner's fire and fuller's soap (Malachi 3:2). There must be reason why Scripture says so - both have something to do with refining and cleansing. Zech 13:8-9 says that God will put some into fire as one refines silver and test gold.
The main reason why you have problem with purgatory is because you follow the teaching of the Reformers of double imputation: Through faith alone you will receive Christ's righteousness imputed on or credited to you while your sins, past and future, are imputed on or credited to Christ, who bore them on the cross. When you are taught that your past and future sins are credited to Christ who bore them on the cross, then purgatory will make what Christ did insufficient. But is double imputation scriptural? Ezekiel 18:20 says "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself". Both righteousness and wickedness are not transferrable!
@@justfromcatholic If there was a Purgatory,why would Christ die on the cross? He took upon himself the sins of the world so that through him we would have eternal life John 5:24 “ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.,oh we still sin. There is none righteous no not one (Romans 3:10) For all fall short of the glory of God ( Romans 3:23). (Romans 5:8 ) “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
Contrary to your belief I do not follow Reformers and never have,I believe in Judeo Christian doctrine.
Revelations 22/18_21he who gives this warning and affirms and testifies to these things says yes I am coming quickly amen yes come lord Jesus the grace of the lord Jesus be with all the saints amen let it be so
An imaginary place so RCC can sell indulgences or favors?
Many indulgences are free of charge eg reading the bible.
And the woman said to the serpent we may eat the fruit from the tree s of the garden except the fruit from the tree which is in the middle of the garden God has said you shall not eat of it neither shall you touch it lest you die
It has been appointed for a man to live once, after that the judgement..
I will advice anyone who has ears and eyes to read the words of God,just go back to the bible, purgatory is a devils trick to give you false hope that there is repentance after death.. just read the bible traditional Judaism in maccabees is not teaching of Jesus..you Will be judged by words of Jesus that came from God.. unless you are born again and given a new heart here on earth while you are still living you are condemned already.. Jesus only is the Truth,the Way and the life.
Apparently, you do not understand the doctrine of Purgatory. Only people who are already saved experience Purgatory. If you are not already saved, you go to Hell. Purgatory is not a second chance at repentance or salvation.
Now the serpent was more subtle than any living creature of the field which the lord God had made and he Satan said to the woman can it really be that God has said you shall Not eat from every tree of the garden
Most high elyon he is the most high God and there is No one higher than him the almighty shaddai/yeshua yahweh saves Jesus name in Hebrew yeshua actually means yahweh saves
do not say his holy name in vain
Elohim the God of power the creator/yahweh the covenant keeping God
Let's play jeopardy : What is masochism?!!!
It is when you love yourself sooo much that you need make yourself suffer.
I'm going straight to heaven on the basis of Christ's righteousness imputed to me.
Purgatory is unBiblical and unnecessary for the Christian. Christ has done it all.
'..... on the basis of Christ's righteousness imputed to me..' You do realize this whole 'imputation' notion is a man-made concept created by the false interpretation of one man a few years ago. If you want to base your salvation on some man who didn't have the God-given Authority to interpret scripture for you, and came up with a novel un-biblical notion never known to Christianity for the first 1900 years or so: then go ahead.. You're only pulling the wool over your own eyes.
See if you can answer two questions which will expose this silly 'imputation' theology. 1) What exactly did you do such that this 'imputation' applies to you and not someone else? 2) What exactly do you mean when you say 'Christ has done it all', such that you are not invoking the idea of Universal Salvation?
If you actually have to do something to receive this 'imputation', no matter how small of an act it may be; then you are implying a works-based salvation; especially if this act defines you getting this imputation and the refusal of another to do this thing (by will or ignorance) means they do not receive this imputation. It would be interesting to watch you try and flush out what you mean by 'Christ has done it all'. It's a nice saying but means nothing if you can't explain it, or its consequences. It's like saying God is Love thus you are saved. This is where most protestants suddenly become very Catholic. The moment you actually try and define what you mean and avoid the fallacy of Universal Salvation; you will find yourself using a lot of Catholic terms and concepts. Let's see how you do with it.
@@39knights It's Biblical and you might try reading Paul
@@allanyoung6231 claiming it's biblical based on your personal non-authorative opinion and actually being able to show it with authority is whole different matter. That is why over 40,000 false sects based on opinions have developed since the mentally deranged Luther began this mess. Yours is but another false one. So answer the questions and actually show how it occurs not just make a hollow claim.
@@39knights Based on Scripture. Just for example Christ said to the the thief on the Cross. Today you will be with me in paradise. He didn't say I'll see you after you get out of purgatory.
@@allanyoung6231 The Good Thief hung on the cross for hours with Jesus. Unless you know the state of a soul upon it's death; you have no idea what its judgement is going to be. For one thing many scholars would argue that the Paradise Jesus speaks of here may not be Heaven. For one thing Jesus was to be the First Fruits into Heaven and by Easter Sunday upon His Resurrection He told Mary He had not yet Ascended to the Father. Even still, the Church Fathers have always said that the use of time when talking of Purgatory was not meant to be Earthly Time, but a comparable understanding of what one might experience while undergoing purgation. For example if I said one person might experience purgatory as a slight sunburn on the skin lasting a day, while someone else might experience it as a severe sunburn lasting a week. In reality both might experience Purgatory for only a moment after death but time comparisons might help explain how one might experience that moment. The Good Thief may well have gone to Purgatory on Good Friday and still been with Jesus in Heaven before the day was out and what Jesus said could still be true.
I'm just curious as to what is so magical about death that one moment you are a lukewarm Christian going about your daily life, brain aneurism, then 10 seconds later you are suddenly fit for heaven???? Jesus calls everyone to be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect; that no sin will enter heaven. Yes there are some, very few, who have by the Grace of God and following the example of Jesus in obedience have attained such perfect in this life; but what of those who haven't; who didn't have enough time, or were somewhat but not perfectly obedient??? What is so magical about death that seconds after it they are suddenly ready for heaven when moments ago they were not?
Jesus is the way and the truth and the life no one can go to the Father accept through he
I warn everyone who listens to the statement s of the prophecy in this book if anyone shall add anything to them God will add and lay upon him the plague s that are recorded and described in this book and if anyone cancel s or take s away from the statement s of the book of this prophecy God will cancel and take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the city of holiness which are described and promised in this book
Tell that to Luther who removed 7 books plus.
2 Corinthians 5:10
For all of us must appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each may receive recompense for what has been done in the body, whether good or evil.
We receive recompense after death of the evils we do in the body. That means punishment. That means purgatory.
@@tabandken8562 there's No purgatory
@@caseyoliver4718 Only in your mind and your false teachers. Not according to Jesus, not according to Paul. How do you do recompense for the evil you have done in the body after death? Via purgatory.
Then what happened to the people who are suffer during the death process in the hospital beds? so they have to Suffer twice? Is that fair? You don't have a choice to be in this world. Therefore the entire life is just about suffering! God created us to suffer throughout from the inception to death and post death!! It is not that I'm not believing in God but how many stages of fire? Jesus was a prophet he died for his cause ! 🤔🤨
Colossians 1:24 says "Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church,"
Catholic teaching is that you can do some of your purgatory here on Earth by accepting pain and suffering as being part of God's plan.
There's No purgatory in Hell
The Catholic myths and imagination.
Such a thought provoking and well laid out counter argument. Perfect example of the scholarly proof anti-catholics often present to justify their apostasy.
@@39knights Could you point to scriptures from the Bible that back up this concept of purgatory ?
Let's talk about Limbo now. Oh, wait! I does not 'exist' anymore.
@@2696ize, of the several scriptural verses that point to the concept or trajectory of purgatory, you may check 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, most especially from verses 13-15 and culminating in verse 15.
God bless you.
@@bravante5927 '... Limbo now. Oh, wait! I does not 'exist'....' Typical non-catholic strawman argument. First of all Limbo has never been an Official teaching of the Christian Faith. It is a theological concept developed to deal with the question of what happens to the souls who die without receiving the gospel. Do you know the answer??? Jesus did say that unless one is born again of water and the Spirit, they cannot enter the Kingdom of God. So what about unbaptized infants who die in the womb, or Natives of foreign lands who have never heard the gospel preached to them???? Are they forever cast to Hell??? Well if you are sooooo sola scriptura and everything is in the bible then go ahead and take your best shot. After all that is what some of the best minds in Church history have done and why the idea of Limbo was developed to explore this topic. Good Luck.
The Holy Spirit purge's us also we are perfect in Christ Jesus when we come through the blood of the Lamb and receive His righteousness. No sir there is no such thing as praying for the dead they are dead once your gone your life on earth is over you have one chance to receive eternal life on this side of glory.
Truth
Like many others on this thread, you do not understand the doctrine of Purgatory. Purgatory is not a second chance to repent or to be saved. In fact, in order to experience Purgatory, you must already be saved. Purgatory is the final experience of sanctification for the believer.