Someone made a very good point online: if this was a standalone, non-Halloween film, it would have been received much better. Trying something different should be when you're starting a new story, not when you have momentum going with the last film being left on a cliffhanger.
I wanna know why they changed the script, they originally stated it was gonna continue the same night and the last film very clearly ended with the intention of continuing the night into the next film (Laurie telling micheal shes comijg for him and then walking out of the hospital holding the knife) then the pandemic and delays it caused happened and during that time they decided to change the script to time jump 4 years
This right here. Give us a standalone Corey movie in between. Let him become his own psychopath with the memory of Michael lingering in town. No Laurie because she has gone into hiding from Michael. Corey finds the mask at the end of his flick....right after he meets Laurie's granddaughter. Then, we get a three way showdown when Michael comes back for Laurie in the finale.
On snoopers gone snoop he said the total opposite it would’ve sucked as a stand alone film Lmaooo if they were trying to introduce him as the new Michael they could’ve done it better.
JUST LIKE THEY DID THE Original 3rd Halloween movie. Should have been a stand alone movie. Or it would have been a nice spinoff of the franchise starting a chain of psychopaths killing under the same guise idk. But terrible send off for michael
If Corey's storyline was introduced in the first remake and we see him progress into a killer by the 3rd film it could have worked better, but to introduce a new story in a movie advertised as the big showdown between Laurie and Michael. It cut any momentum they were building up too for the finale.
Exactly! Well said. They randomly thre him on, focused on him the whole movie, and then killed him at the end. Then they bring back Lindsey just to make her a side character.
I have made that argument since the movie came out. Corey is a character that should have been introduced in Halloween 2018 and eventually transition into a new "Shape" just like Michael Myers. Introducing this kind of character in the last movie of a trilogy is pointless.
The reason why Michael is referred to as "The Shape" is because that's what John Carpenter called him in the 1978 movie. They wanted it to be a big mystery as to who it could've been under the mask. "The shape" can be anyone, but there's only 1 Michael Myers.
I agree with you Mello. this story could've worked if it was a standalone scary film. But I was disappointed that Michael Meyers was just a background character until the 3rd act. It definitely was not the movie they showed in the previews. The kills were scary and gruesome but the story didn't work for me.
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
@@brazyfilmo3121the whole franchise is straight trash except 3 that actually a better Halloween film than having 5 different timelines with the same bad guy.
Not on purpose. Dumbass kid was standing in front of a door that opens outward. So when Corey kicked the door open, the little shit got hit…to say the least.
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Dude, your reactions are exactly how I reacted when I saw this in a packed theater, everyone just walked out in stunned silence by how lied to they were about what the marketing labelled this film as. It technically is the showdown between Laurie and Michael but shoe horned into a massive filler arc, its just baffling
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
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Halloween 4 ended in a really good way and then H5 they changed direction for the story they did it again for H6 and then they did it again when they rebooted the timeline with H20 and then they retconned it with Resurrection so this ain’t the first time this franchise has been building up to something just go in the opposite direction
The same people who hate this love four even though this happened I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
The moment with "Damn, I love when I do that. I can't believe I did that again. Like I still got it." killed me 🤣🤣 can't count how often I wachted this few seconds again and again
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
You didn't know why Michael Myers was called the Shape since the beginning? Maybe I'm just in too deep in terms of the series lore. The main issue I take with a lot of the people saying Michael Myers was disrespected here drive me nuts because that bridge was crossed way further back in the 90s.
It doesn't help that the series really expanded on "The Shape" lore in the sequels, but then this trilogy comes along and basically says "disregard ALL sequels cause these are the REAL sequels". And then this third one leans heavily into the more supernatural part of "The Shape" with them expecting people to have binged those sequel movies that they basically told them to ignore since they would no longer have any impact on the series since they were retconned and non-canon.
@Brandon Cobb To be fair Myers has been called The Shape since the credits of 1978 but I see the point you're making. They put it into Ends with some exposition near the end but I suppose it may be unclear. At the same time this one does assume you're familiar with the concept of the evil within Myers that manifests with him being the shape and then asks if that's unique or transferable. It was just mind-breaking to me how we could have something like "I love Halloween and Michael Myers! Wait The Shape? What's that???" Yknow? I do agree with you to an extent though.
My Halloween trilogy is Halloween (1978), Halloween II (1982), and Halloween H2O: 20 Years Later. This is my Laurie Strode and Michael Myers as siblings. It has a definite ending until Resurrection brought Michael, lol.
1. Halloween (1978) 2. Halloween (2018) 3. Halloween 20 Years Later (1998) 4. Halloween: Return of Michael Myers (1988) 5. Halloween: Season of the Witch (1982) 6. Halloween Kills (2021) 7. Rob Zombie's Halloween (2007) 8. Halloween II (1981) 9. Halloween Ends (2022) 10. Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 (2009) 11. Halloween: Revenge of Michael Myers (1989) 12. Halloween: Curse of Michael Myers (1995) 13. Halloween: Resurrection (2002) *sigh* ... I think need a break from the Halloween series. This trilogy took a lot out of me; the reboot honestly didn't need to be another trilogy. But the studios just didn't learn from the last time, and now Ends, while not *the* worst, has left me kinda done with it. I don't hate or love it; it's just "Meh" to me. I hope we can do something new in the future, or something along the lines of the anthology John Carpenter had in mind.
You can watch the older movies. Some of them are pretty good and they are different timelines. They are: - 1, 2, (Return, Revenge, Curse) - 1, 2, H20, Resurrection - 1, 2018, Kills, End - Rob Zombie H1, Rob Zombie H2 - 3 is a standalone anthology story
About damn time somebody posted this in the comment section, I was really confused with how the original movies were connected and what movies were in a different timeline.
Corey should've been introduced in Halloween kills or h18 The last fight between Laurie and Michael should've been longer ,Corey should've gotten picked on by bikers or people who were older,
29:11 what sucks is there's no build up to it. Their 1st encounter throughout the entire movie. Just felt like "we got to do a final fight scene between there lets toss that in there"
"Has any other trilogy done something like this? Where they were building up to something and in the third movie they just like completely turn away to something different?" Somebody tell him about Halloween III 😂
I think the movie had some cool ideas, it was just the wrong time to try it out, going in this direction on the final movie of the trilogy was a really bad choice, it doesn't feel consistent it's just random and confusing, maybe in the start of a new trilogy, let us get to know Cory more, build it up properly over 3 movies, maybe it would have worked a lot better....overall a truly disappointing trilogy, kills was trash, 2018 was okay.
This movie is good if you can just pretend it’s not apart of the trilogy 😂. Loved what they were doing with Cory UNTIL the end 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️. I liked it, it entertained me..but probably just because I’m more of a casual Halloween fan. If I was a hardcore fan I can see why people are upset haha.
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we were introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Halloween four was about his niece Jamie but they love that movie that has the same plot as Halloween Ends they loved seeing Jamie as the new SHAPE cuz the shape represents evil not Michael.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Alright, i know i'm a year late, but i'm just gonna explain why so many fans had a problem with Fans: This movie ignored all unfinished plot lines from the previous 2 films, many just found Corey to be uninteresting, the advertising showed Michael and Laurie fighting, but what fans got was Michael being sidelined. Halloween fans are heavily Nostalgic, and after Halloween Kills, they expected to see more of The Shape, but what they got instead was Corey becoming the new Shape. Personally, i was just disappointed, didn't hate it, but didn't really like it either. It felt like it had some good ideas, like the Mask passing on to someone else, but it just didn't work for me, because Corey was a new character. I think that if Corey was introduced earlier in the trilogy and we saw him progress more and more into being like Michael Myers, it could've worked. The idea of Myers corrupting the town and passing the torch could have worked with more forethought.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Halloween Ends just didn't really fit in, the filmmakers tried something new and took a risk, some hated it, some liked it. This is just how people will react to something that's new in an old IP that's stayed for the most part consistent for over 40 years. I think that if the writing was just a bit better and if the trilogy had better direction....this could have worked. Like i said the franchise has stayed consistent in it's slasher roots, the filmmakers of the film have gone on record in saying that the plot has mainly to avoid repetition', but It’s kinda the whole appeal of a slasher franchise. Simple plot, entertaining kills and a good villain and that’s all you need. It’s not like there’s been a huge amount of slashers anyway compared to the 80s so people are completely down for just some simple classic slasher stuff, especially from Halloween.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Another thing i didn't like about it personally was how inconsistent the writing was, Laurie plans her entire life in the unlikely event that Michael MIGHT escape incarceration and come after her. Then he actually DOES, kills almost everyone she loves, then disappears and is still ON THE LOOSE, whereabouts unknown, but she just moves on and forgets about it because of the 4 year jump.... Another problem was Allyson, i thought her character was a great addition for the first two movies, and then she became incredibly unlikeable and essentially just a moody love interest in Ends. But the few things i will commend were the soundtrack, cinematography, and the kills were pretty damn good too. All and all, it had good ideas, but just executed them in a way, that just left fans mixed and put-off by it all.
The worst thing about this movie is that Laurie spent 40 years training for Michael's return, and when he did and killed her daughter, she decided to settle down.
The two greatest reactions i've seen people make to this movie: "The most unrealistic part of this film is the band geeks are bullies" "Bring out the extended cut where Michael is riding on the back of Corey's scooter"
My opinion: This shouldn’t have been the end. They should have made another movie after this one (which would be “Halloween Ends” instead) that was the final showdown with absolutely no holds barred. This movie should have ended with Michael picking up the mask, finishing Corey off, taking the knife and then disappearing with Laurie seeing like bloody boot prints or something leading out the door or some shit like that. Idk 🤷🏻♂️
I'll say it again lol - 1 - This is a trilogy. Others were saying about the other movies, but this one is a reboot trilogy. The original's weren't a trilogy. 1 & 2 were the only one's with Jamie until H20 - 20 years later. And 2 - I'm glad that finally, Michael's gone, but? I'm conflicted with the ending. I liked it, but something felt weird...I still can't put my finger on it! And 3? Evil never dies...
@@Razaril_93 No - Because in this trilogy? Laurie isn't related to Michael. They took that bond away, which was revealed in the 2nd to Laurie being his sister. = Reboot. And definitely not a quadrilogy, considering that there was 1 & 2, both from the same night... :) Six movies star Jamie. H20 is really a standalone, because it was just for the 20th anniversary.
@@silverdoeGirl Halloween 2018 is a direct squel to Halloween 1978. Meaning Halloween 2018 is the 2nd movie followed by Kills then Ends that's 4 movies. That makes it a quadrilogy.
@@Razaril_93 No - it isn't. Its a trilogy. It's literally billed as the final installment in director David Gordon Green's reboot trilogy. It doesn't matter if the first origin is connected in some way. 1 and 2 were and that would then make it a Tetralogy or hexalogy because all six star Jamie.
@@silverdoeGirl Yeah you don't seem e a le to do basic math so this conversation is pointless. I would advise watching Halloween 2018 again so you can understand its a sequel that all.
Total side note, loving the shirt man. If I were you I would hold on to that for sure, since it’s referencing Halloween and Toy Story, but uses Chuckys arm in the shot. Maybe intentionally done but if not you may have a shirt that could be worth a lot lol
I waited to watch this on Halloween day, at the end of a marathon of this current timeline of Halloween movies. I lost count how many times I questioned wtf movie was I watching. How did we go from Laurie brandishing a knife ready to go kill Michael to her in a blonde wig baking pies? You're really gonna tell me Laurie went on the hunt, Michael disappears, and in that time she turns into a normal granny with no trauma in life whatsoever? Why is Allison so unnaturally horny for Corey, especially when they just met? The trope of the pretty girl falling for the psycho killer barely worked for Anakin and Padme, it should've stopped there. Corey literally says he killed someone and Allison just ignores it, wtf? Why is Michael treated like some lost killer puppy just looking for a new friend, dragging people into the sewers? Michael is not supposed to build connections with people much less sympathize with others that have trauma. He is purely and simply evil. Corey should've died in that sewer immediately. Now my biggest problem, wtf is with the supernatural stuff going on? Killing like physically recharges Michael? Wasn't this Michael supposed to be described as not supernatural, just capable of incredible things? What is the story of Corey building up Michaels strength with murders, in what way is that supposed to work in this timeline? This plotline just came out of nowhere, it felt like the writers had no idea what to do so they pulled some shit out of their ass and somehow convinced the producers to sign it. When it played Don't Fear the Reaper at the end I literally shouted "Fuck off"! Imho, this is the worst Halloween movie ever. Say what you want about Halloween 5, 6, Resurrection, or the Rob Zombie movies. At least those can be fun to watch as schlocky slasher movies. This movie was not fun to watch at all, the cringe is unreal.
Hey, I agree with most of your statements and takes from the film. Particularly the ones about Laurie. However there are some explanations for the flaws you described. Foremost I think in terms of Allison’s story, she’s a lost and severely damaged person. She feels like she no longer has anyone to share her trauma with now that Laurie is seemingly all good. She especially latches onto Corey because she attracted to him and his trauma as well as the fact that he’s someone her age with whom she can relate to. Last thing I’ll comment on, I actually found Corey to be the best part of the movie. I think Michael fleeing after the last movie was dumb, but with the story they chose it makes sense that he is on decline as he’s getting older and as people seemingly in the last movie we’re not as afraid of him. The way I take it, is that Michael is a vessel for the Shape, a pure evil spirit that takes the form of man. Despite the spirits powers being able to keep Michael alive his physical body is old and in disrepair, especially after the last movie. So the Shape begins to look for the next suitable vessel. This vessel being Corey. And then I think in that last part with Corey and Michael. they didn’t destroy Corey’s body. And one of the last things Michael does is grab Corey’s head and stares into his eyes again while Corey struggles before snapping his neck. Guess that can be seen as Michael maybe transferring over the rest of his evil into him and then fake killing Corey so that the evil shape within could live on. And Corey struggles during that not fully understanding and because the last bits of his humanity still in there are getting killed and replaced by the rest of the shape
In rewatching it i dont mind it as much because it shows that the story wasnt about Michael, it was about good vs evil and Laurie was the good and worked to defeat the evil, in Michael as well as in Corey. Michael tried to pass the evil on through Corey and Laurie tried to do the same through Allison and they both thought they failed but in the end good prevailed because Allison came back and they ended it. You can't be too upset about not having full out Michael vs Laurie because they are both in their 60s and have suffered immense physical trauma. I also think its meant to ve watched all three back to back so its less jarring a change
Best kills of franchise in these three movies lol best Michael too best looks love how his look evolves lol. Loves how Corey taking people out in this lol.
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we were introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Halloween four was about his niece Jamie but they love that movie that has the same plot as Halloween Ends they loved seeing Jamie as the new SHAPE cuz the shape represents evil not Michael.
3:16 Nosferatu or Michael like Shadow. 4:14 The blue Lettering is a Reference to Halloween III 5:54 Fun Fact: Doug, the son of the Boy who bullied Lonnie in the 1978 Flashback in Halloween Kills! Fun Fact: Terry is the Grandson of Ben Tramer from Halloween II. 7:37 Dr. Mathis, mentioned in Halloween Kills. 14:02 A few seconds before you can see Michael on the Right. The transformation remembers me to Jamie in Halloween 4 after she grabbed Michael Hand. Corey´s Mom deserved to be killed. 18:14 My favourite Scene 20:31 In the Background, you can actually see Corey stabbing Mathis in the Dark. 24:53 That kill is too fast 25:36 A shame to not get more of her death 26:50 The Pumpkin in the Background resembles the one Laurie and the kids made in 1978. I absolutely love the Soundtrack in the Final Fight! 29:46 Michael reversed it 30:39 When Laurie Turned the Knife you can see Michaels Reflection which resembles the Cover of the Halloween 5 and Resurrection DVDs and Posters! 33:50 The silent tour through the room also resembles Halloween 1978 but without the Breathing 33:50 The Box you can see is the one from Aaron and Dana who died at the Gas Station in 2018. 33:52 You can hear the Song "Don´t fear the Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult also in the Car Scene with Laurie and Annie in Halloween 1978. 32:28 I have still the same Question It also has good Christine (1985) References: Corey gets possessed of killing like Arnie of Christine 13:34 Glasses getting broken exactly like Arnis! In some Scene Corey says "Show it to me", the same said Arnie to Christine! 24:07 Also a Reference I give this Movie a 8 out of 10!
The sad thing is, I actually think the idea of someone else taking on Michael Myers' persona could work really well. The problem is, the Corey character is not the right character to fit that mold. Michael has always been about the evil transcending the man. At the end of the day, Michael the man is just a vessel for something darker, more sinister, something that defies individuality. And there are PLENTY of psychopaths and killers out there with the same bottomless black soul that Michael has. If Corey had been more like that-a cold, mysterious, intimidating loner that nobody understood, who always had an inexplicable penchant for hurting people and animals for no reason other than simple desire to do so-then this story could have worked as a fitting conclusion to this series. Corey could have found Michael, the aged, decrepit, worn-out vessel for the inhuman evil, and Corey could have killed Michael and BECOME him. Because deep down, they WOULD be kindred spirits, both joined by the same transcendent evil soul that always finds a way to take human form throughout time. It wouldn't be some snot-nosed little wannabe kid wanting to play the killer, it would just be another vessel for the evil to inhabit, a younger, stronger vessel with the same mask and the same blackness in his eyes. That would be a perfect ending, because even with Laurie killing Corey at the end, she would know that the evil would always find someone else, and that there would always be more Michaels in the world. But unfortunately, the director/writers didn't really understand what they wanted to do with these last two movies. True evil doesn't come from being bullied, or being misunderstood. The kind of evil that Michael embodies, is a kind of evil that you just have to be born with. But they didn't understand that, so they tried to make Corey have a progression into becoming a villain, when he should have just been evil from birth. Because as much as we want to believe otherwise, there really are people like that who are just BORN bad, and we may never fully comprehend why. Which is such a shame, because Halloween 2018 was actually a great sequel to the original. It's such a shame it had to falter like this for what I can only assume is a hyperfixation on weak, specious commentary over actual storytelling.
If ur going to talk about true crime like u get it please know what ur talking about a lot of serial killers especially serial rapists accidentally kill someone and they can devolve. Jeffery Dahmer’s first two murder victims were accidents not planned a lot serial killers who killed by accident. Cory played the role the city gave him. Just like with Jamie Lloyd Corey wasn’t going around murdering people until they had eye contact and they were touched by him. So ur wrong Corey cuz who did he out right murdered before coming in to contact with Michael I’ll wait? Sweet innocent Jamie had no blood on her hands
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 You're missing my point. I'm not saying serial killers can't be made by circumstance or chance. There are plenty of people who are relatively normal if not for a few wires crossed wrong in their brain that makes them more amenable to harming or killing other living things. But there are people like Michael Myers who are just simply a different class of killer. Corey is like the first group-an otherwise normal guy with a few anger issues or personality defects that make him more equipped to become a murderer with enough prodding. But there are people like Michael who are, for lack of a better way of describing it, just born evil. Michael Myers wasn't bullied into becoming a killer (at least, not in this timeline, let's not talk about the Rob Zombie version). He didn't escalate. He just snapped out of nowhere and decided to start butchering his sister. And though they are rare, there are indeed people like Michael Myers in the real world-people who are just born with something so wrong in their brains and their psychology that they can't connect with other human beings, can't forge bonds with them, and just have a natural inclination to cause harm. There are people who are anti-social by nature and who have that same incurable blackness in their souls-they're rarer than your typical serial killer, but they do exist. That's the difference between Corey and Michael.
They’ve called Michael Myers the shape in the 70’s and rob zombie movies but they definitely set it up for another Michael Myers to come into play because they already confirmed more Halloween movies
@@MerakiKulture Malek Akkad just recently got the rights back after Halloween Ends released and since then, has not confirmed a new Halloween movie. There is no confirmation from anyone in charge of the franchise now. Also, even if it is a new one, it's definitely not gonna be the same timeline
Someone mentioned this being a stand-alone movie would be much better. In the original trilogy Halloween 3 actually never had to do anything with Michael Myers. It revolved around which craft and killer death pumpkins. So bad they decided to jump ahead and continue the story with a flashback instead of ret-coning 3
U mean this Halloween 4 If ur mad at this be mad at John deep down I think John is pissed at this fan base he wanted this to be anthology but u fans ruined his vision y’all hated three so John sold his rights cuz u fickle fans. The majority of y’all hated Laurie and Michael not being related. The fact that Cory, Laurie and Allyson stayed after the crap they went through y’all have nothing to say about that.
John Carpenter, who scored the original in 1978, his son Cody Carpenter, and Daniel Davies did the Music for all 3 films. They're currently on tour now.
10:26 it's just that they found out in Halloween kills Michael wasn't going after Laurie. He's just trying to go home and they were in his way. And the house is destroyed too now. So, Michael got no where to go.
Somebody made the point that in 1978 not only was he much younger but of course he was captured and was probably taken to the hospital He has basically been living in a sewer for four years and never got any medical treatment at all The book actually goes into a lot more of the explanation and if they had had the extra scenes that the book contains, I think the movie would’ve been much better
RZ’s Halloween really is worth the watch. Not the second one 😂 but the first had a great soundtrack and was real sideways. You should give it a try! Maybe next Melloween ❤️🎃
lmaaaaoo it's been too long since I've watched your vids. Had me cracking up constantly with your commentary this time. I watched this a few weeks ago and was just so confused by the direction they took it
Yeah Corey's story while interesting should not have been the focus of this film. It felt more like Giant filler until what we really wanted to see at the end.
You're issue with her being happy finally is just a bit misguided I feel. After 40 years and losing people...maybe therapy and writing a book was her way of attempting to let it go??? She seemed the HAPPIEST that Laurie will ever be and we won't get another chance at seeing that at least with JLC involved anyways. As someone's who has been through tons of emotional trauma there does come a sort of fuck it point where you choose happiness. This was probably what they intended that to be.
He's done that in franchise before by touch or his evil eyes I'm not surprised he can do that here lol. Cool seeing someone infected with this evil and acting like Michael and kind of using it for revenge but also kind of grappling with it turn fully evil or stay with Alison lol
Yeah i agree with you I didn’t like this movie as well, I know there’s those out there that do, and i respect it, but this movie for me didn’t hit the landing as a conclusion to this trilogy.
How I think they should have structured the sequels; Halloween Ends first with a copycat Michael, Laurie trying to live past her 1978 trauma. Halloween 2018 and Kills where it's a few years after the first sequel and Laurie has been prepping to take Michael down
lol regular people have trouble with medical bills and making appointments to see a doctor, its four years later and Michael has probably only taken Advil for that ass whooping in the last movie
I think Michael became weak because of food. Not because his old, not because he hasn't killed people, but he just has no good food like he used to have in a mental asylum. all Michael probably ate is some garbage waste given by that homeless person in exchange for the homeless person's life and that would probably explain why the homeless person is still alive while Michael has been dragging people into his new home to kill them, as it can be seen on some scenes that some citizens have been missing and Michael probably is the one responsible for that. His old home the Myers house is destroyed and he's purpose on all the Halloween movies is to get back to his house and kill people on the way, and the reason for killing people? I don't know nobody knows he just kills and that's what makes him The Shape. And so now he has no other places to go so he just lives in that sewers until he dies from old age or hunt Laurie down for damaging Michael on every encounter they've been through long time.
I will admit this one does not really feel like a true Halloween movie but despite the lack of myers action the scary ambience makes up for it in my opinion. Plus myers gets a couple of kills in at least
I just hated the arc of Corey in this. It was extremely rushed. If they had started it earlier then I could have understood it, but in this movie it spends a portion of the movie building him up and then he changes and goes 0 to 60 in no time. And then Allyson goes off the deep end as well. She falls for him extremely fast and you'd think she'd be more willing to listen to her grandma after having spent 2 previous movies proving how neurotic she's been for FORTY YEARS was for good reason. But no...let's have her have an extremely fast paced romance with the guy who also happens to be BFFs with the dude who killed both of her parents and previous boyfriend. This movie just did not work for me. I loved 2018, but Kills and then this...they just didn't work.
Someone made a very good point online: if this was a standalone, non-Halloween film, it would have been received much better. Trying something different should be when you're starting a new story, not when you have momentum going with the last film being left on a cliffhanger.
So true
I wanna know why they changed the script, they originally stated it was gonna continue the same night and the last film very clearly ended with the intention of continuing the night into the next film (Laurie telling micheal shes comijg for him and then walking out of the hospital holding the knife) then the pandemic and delays it caused happened and during that time they decided to change the script to time jump 4 years
This right here. Give us a standalone Corey movie in between. Let him become his own psychopath with the memory of Michael lingering in town. No Laurie because she has gone into hiding from Michael. Corey finds the mask at the end of his flick....right after he meets Laurie's granddaughter. Then, we get a three way showdown when Michael comes back for Laurie in the finale.
On snoopers gone snoop he said the total opposite it would’ve sucked as a stand alone film Lmaooo if they were trying to introduce him as the new Michael they could’ve done it better.
JUST LIKE THEY DID THE Original 3rd Halloween movie. Should have been a stand alone movie. Or it would have been a nice spinoff of the franchise starting a chain of psychopaths killing under the same guise idk. But terrible send off for michael
If Corey's storyline was introduced in the first remake and we see him progress into a killer by the 3rd film it could have worked better, but to introduce a new story in a movie advertised as the big showdown between Laurie and Michael. It cut any momentum they were building up too for the finale.
Exactly! Well said. They randomly thre him on, focused on him the whole movie, and then killed him at the end. Then they bring back Lindsey just to make her a side character.
Yep, spot on some people trying to make it seem like this was such a brilliant plot twist but it was just dumb and disappointed a lot of Die hards
I have made that argument since the movie came out. Corey is a character that should have been introduced in Halloween 2018 and eventually transition into a new "Shape" just like Michael Myers.
Introducing this kind of character in the last movie of a trilogy is pointless.
This! Exactly 💯!
The reason why Michael is referred to as "The Shape" is because that's what John Carpenter called him in the 1978 movie. They wanted it to be a big mystery as to who it could've been under the mask. "The shape" can be anyone, but there's only 1 Michael Myers.
Until they start doing copycat killers
I agree with you Mello. this story could've worked if it was a standalone scary film. But I was disappointed that Michael Meyers was just a background character until the 3rd act. It definitely was not the movie they showed in the previews. The kills were scary and gruesome but the story didn't work for me.
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018Halloween 4 trash too.
@@brazyfilmo3121the whole franchise is straight trash except 3 that actually a better Halloween film than having 5 different timelines with the same bad guy.
Crazy knows crazy. Micheal never attacked mental patients. Side note: I think Corey punted that boy over the banister.
Not on purpose. Dumbass kid was standing in front of a door that opens outward. So when Corey kicked the door open, the little shit got hit…to say the least.
Really cracked me up with the "Now you need to split that into like ten books" line.
You are absolutely right, she was cautious all those years about Michael Myers and moves on after he actually show up, makes zero sense
And after he killed her daughter
Yeah they should have swapped the three sequels around.
I needed a distraction. I lost my brother on Friday. And every day has felt like a daze. I’ve been desperate for some kind of time away from all of it. And Mellows videos help. At least for a little while.
Thank you Mellow. ❤
My condolences to you and your family. I also just lost my oldest Brother on the 20th of this month. I am sorry.
Sorry for you’re loss.
Thank you guys. I really appreciate that. And I’m sorry for your loss oobemar.
😢 Will Be Here For You
@@oobembarkarlsen3255 sorry for your losses
Dude, your reactions are exactly how I reacted when I saw this in a packed theater, everyone just walked out in stunned silence by how lied to they were about what the marketing labelled this film as. It technically is the showdown between Laurie and Michael but shoe horned into a massive filler arc, its just baffling
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
Stop lying the told y’all before what this movie is about yet u choose to act like they didn’t tell us what this was about
Lmao, stop speaking for an entire theatre. That didn't happen. Typical example of someone projecting their personal experience onto everyone else
Michael had zero unassisted kills in this flick. That's not a good end to this part of the franchise, man.
Mello i swear i love your videos!! currently battling real bad depression and the only thing that really makes me smile is yours and Billy's reaction videos. I just want to say thank you for making my days brighter.
At 12:20 When you said "so much flashing lights and no rhythm going on" I laughed so damn hard.
Halloween 4 ended in a really good way and then H5 they changed direction for the story they did it again for H6 and then they did it again when they rebooted the timeline with H20 and then they retconned it with Resurrection so this ain’t the first time this franchise has been building up to something just go in the opposite direction
The same people who hate this love four even though this happened
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
The moment with "Damn, I love when I do that. I can't believe I did that again. Like I still got it." killed me 🤣🤣 can't count how often I wachted this few seconds again and again
You know if this was like the start of the anthology series for Halloween, maybe I would've given it the benefit of the doubt but whatever
Yep like three
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we weren’t introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Also Michael died in the fourth movie nobody said crap about that.
Apparently Laurie was supposed turn evil at the end of this movie. That why she said evil changes shape but they scrapped it
You didn't know why Michael Myers was called the Shape since the beginning? Maybe I'm just in too deep in terms of the series lore. The main issue I take with a lot of the people saying Michael Myers was disrespected here drive me nuts because that bridge was crossed way further back in the 90s.
It doesn't help that the series really expanded on "The Shape" lore in the sequels, but then this trilogy comes along and basically says "disregard ALL sequels cause these are the REAL sequels".
And then this third one leans heavily into the more supernatural part of "The Shape" with them expecting people to have binged those sequel movies that they basically told them to ignore since they would no longer have any impact on the series since they were retconned and non-canon.
@Brandon Cobb To be fair Myers has been called The Shape since the credits of 1978 but I see the point you're making. They put it into Ends with some exposition near the end but I suppose it may be unclear. At the same time this one does assume you're familiar with the concept of the evil within Myers that manifests with him being the shape and then asks if that's unique or transferable. It was just mind-breaking to me how we could have something like "I love Halloween and Michael Myers! Wait The Shape? What's that???" Yknow? I do agree with you to an extent though.
your commentary is gold "I can't drink milk, b*tch?"
I'm glad you got this back up as quickly as you did.
My Halloween trilogy is Halloween (1978), Halloween II (1982), and Halloween H2O: 20 Years Later. This is my Laurie Strode and Michael Myers as siblings. It has a definite ending until Resurrection brought Michael, lol.
watch 5 years from now we get "Halloween Reborn" or sumn like that lol
31:19 Michael was like "Now look, Dammit, I'm Not takin' this "L" by Myself!"
Guy gets his tongue cut out.
Mell doesn't notice the safety scissors he used.
I damn near laughed my face off.
I completely forgot Michael was beat up by a mob last movie XD
It killed me how this was a three story huge house and the kitchen was like 2 feet wide lol
This movie was very different but I enjoyed it the same time great reaction man
Watch the ORIGINAL trilogy !!!
Would love to see your reaction to them and see which is your preferred timeline 🥰
I can only imagine the amount of disappointment in theaters
The soundtrack was so good because it was done by John Carpenter, the writer/director/composer of the original Halloween.
1. Halloween (1978)
2. Halloween (2018)
3. Halloween 20 Years Later (1998)
4. Halloween: Return of Michael Myers (1988)
5. Halloween: Season of the Witch (1982)
6. Halloween Kills (2021)
7. Rob Zombie's Halloween (2007)
8. Halloween II (1981)
9. Halloween Ends (2022)
10. Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 (2009)
11. Halloween: Revenge of Michael Myers (1989)
12. Halloween: Curse of Michael Myers (1995)
13. Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
*sigh* ... I think need a break from the Halloween series. This trilogy took a lot out of me; the reboot honestly didn't need to be another trilogy. But the studios just didn't learn from the last time, and now Ends, while not *the* worst, has left me kinda done with it. I don't hate or love it; it's just "Meh" to me. I hope we can do something new in the future, or something along the lines of the anthology John Carpenter had in mind.
You can watch the older movies. Some of them are pretty good and they are different timelines. They are:
- 1, 2, (Return, Revenge, Curse)
- 1, 2, H20, Resurrection
- 1, 2018, Kills, End
- Rob Zombie H1, Rob Zombie H2
- 3 is a standalone anthology story
About damn time somebody posted this in the comment section, I was really confused with how the original movies were connected and what movies were in a different timeline.
Corey should've been introduced in Halloween kills or h18 The last fight between Laurie and Michael should've been longer ,Corey should've gotten picked on by bikers or people who were older,
Has any other franchise built up to something and completely changed it for the last movie? Yes Jurassic World lol.
Let Mello write and direct a new Halloween Ends
29:11 what sucks is there's no build up to it. Their 1st encounter throughout the entire movie. Just felt like "we got to do a final fight scene between there lets toss that in there"
"Has any other trilogy done something like this? Where they were building up to something and in the third movie they just like completely turn away to something different?"
Somebody tell him about Halloween III 😂
I think the movie had some cool ideas, it was just the wrong time to try it out, going in this direction on the final movie of the trilogy was a really bad choice, it doesn't feel consistent it's just random and confusing, maybe in the start of a new trilogy, let us get to know Cory more, build it up properly over 3 movies, maybe it would have worked a lot better....overall a truly disappointing trilogy, kills was trash, 2018 was okay.
This movie is good if you can just pretend it’s not apart of the trilogy 😂. Loved what they were doing with Cory UNTIL the end 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️. I liked it, it entertained me..but probably just because I’m more of a casual Halloween fan. If I was a hardcore fan I can see why people are upset haha.
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we were introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Halloween four was about his niece Jamie but they love that movie that has the same plot as Halloween Ends they loved seeing Jamie as the new SHAPE cuz the shape represents evil not Michael.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Alright, i know i'm a year late, but i'm just gonna explain why so many fans had a problem with Fans: This movie ignored all unfinished plot lines from the previous 2 films, many just found Corey to be uninteresting, the advertising showed Michael and Laurie fighting, but what fans got was Michael being sidelined. Halloween fans are heavily Nostalgic, and after Halloween Kills, they expected to see more of The Shape, but what they got instead was Corey becoming the new Shape.
Personally, i was just disappointed, didn't hate it, but didn't really like it either. It felt like it had some good ideas, like the Mask passing on to someone else, but it just didn't work for me, because Corey was a new character. I think that if Corey was introduced earlier in the trilogy and we saw him progress more and more into being like Michael Myers, it could've worked. The idea of Myers corrupting the town and passing the torch could have worked with more forethought.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Halloween Ends just didn't really fit in, the filmmakers tried something new and took a risk, some hated it, some liked it. This is just how people will react to something that's new in an old IP that's stayed for the most part consistent for over 40 years.
I think that if the writing was just a bit better and if the trilogy had better direction....this could have worked. Like i said the franchise has stayed consistent in it's slasher roots, the filmmakers of the film have gone on record in saying that the plot has mainly to avoid repetition', but It’s kinda the whole appeal of a slasher franchise. Simple plot, entertaining kills and a good villain and that’s all you need. It’s not like there’s been a huge amount of slashers anyway compared to the 80s so people are completely down for just some simple classic slasher stuff, especially from Halloween.
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Another thing i didn't like about it personally was how inconsistent the writing was, Laurie plans her entire life in the unlikely event that Michael MIGHT escape incarceration and come after her. Then he actually DOES, kills almost everyone she loves, then disappears and is still ON THE LOOSE, whereabouts unknown, but she just moves on and forgets about it because of the 4 year jump....
Another problem was Allyson, i thought her character was a great addition for the first two movies, and then she became incredibly unlikeable and essentially just a moody love interest in Ends.
But the few things i will commend were the soundtrack, cinematography, and the kills were pretty damn good too.
All and all, it had good ideas, but just executed them in a way, that just left fans mixed and put-off by it all.
The edits always have me dead😂💀💀
The worst thing about this movie is that Laurie spent 40 years training for Michael's return, and when he did and killed her daughter, she decided to settle down.
22:57 Michael Myers really just got his pockets ran by some dork........
john carpenter does the music hes the goat
The two greatest reactions i've seen people make to this movie:
"The most unrealistic part of this film is the band geeks are bullies"
"Bring out the extended cut where Michael is riding on the back of Corey's scooter"
My opinion: This shouldn’t have been the end. They should have made another movie after this one (which would be “Halloween Ends” instead) that was the final showdown with absolutely no holds barred. This movie should have ended with Michael picking up the mask, finishing Corey off, taking the knife and then disappearing with Laurie seeing like bloody boot prints or something leading out the door or some shit like that. Idk 🤷🏻♂️
I'll say it again lol - 1 - This is a trilogy. Others were saying about the other movies, but this one is a reboot trilogy. The original's weren't a trilogy. 1 & 2 were the only one's with Jamie until H20 - 20 years later. And 2 - I'm glad that finally, Michael's gone, but? I'm conflicted with the ending. I liked it, but something felt weird...I still can't put my finger on it! And 3? Evil never dies...
Technically it's a quadrilogy because all 3 movies still are connected to the very first Halloween.
@@Razaril_93 No - Because in this trilogy? Laurie isn't related to Michael. They took that bond away, which was revealed in the 2nd to Laurie being his sister. = Reboot. And definitely not a quadrilogy, considering that there was 1 & 2, both from the same night... :) Six movies star Jamie. H20 is really a standalone, because it was just for the 20th anniversary.
@@silverdoeGirl Halloween 2018 is a direct squel to Halloween 1978. Meaning Halloween 2018 is the 2nd movie followed by Kills then Ends that's 4 movies. That makes it a quadrilogy.
@@Razaril_93 No - it isn't. Its a trilogy. It's literally billed as the final installment in director David Gordon Green's reboot trilogy. It doesn't matter if the first origin is connected in some way. 1 and 2 were and that would then make it a Tetralogy or hexalogy because all six star Jamie.
@@silverdoeGirl Yeah you don't seem e a le to do basic math so this conversation is pointless. I would advise watching Halloween 2018 again so you can understand its a sequel that all.
No lie, you’re always making my day Fr fr. And you make me laugh even when the movie is scary af. You’re amazing
Total side note, loving the shirt man. If I were you I would hold on to that for sure, since it’s referencing Halloween and Toy Story, but uses Chuckys arm in the shot. Maybe intentionally done but if not you may have a shirt that could be worth a lot lol
They've already introduced him wearing a jumpsuit too cause that's part of his job lol🐝
I waited to watch this on Halloween day, at the end of a marathon of this current timeline of Halloween movies. I lost count how many times I questioned wtf movie was I watching.
How did we go from Laurie brandishing a knife ready to go kill Michael to her in a blonde wig baking pies? You're really gonna tell me Laurie went on the hunt, Michael disappears, and in that time she turns into a normal granny with no trauma in life whatsoever?
Why is Allison so unnaturally horny for Corey, especially when they just met? The trope of the pretty girl falling for the psycho killer barely worked for Anakin and Padme, it should've stopped there. Corey literally says he killed someone and Allison just ignores it, wtf?
Why is Michael treated like some lost killer puppy just looking for a new friend, dragging people into the sewers? Michael is not supposed to build connections with people much less sympathize with others that have trauma. He is purely and simply evil. Corey should've died in that sewer immediately.
Now my biggest problem, wtf is with the supernatural stuff going on? Killing like physically recharges Michael? Wasn't this Michael supposed to be described as not supernatural, just capable of incredible things? What is the story of Corey building up Michaels strength with murders, in what way is that supposed to work in this timeline? This plotline just came out of nowhere, it felt like the writers had no idea what to do so they pulled some shit out of their ass and somehow convinced the producers to sign it.
When it played Don't Fear the Reaper at the end I literally shouted "Fuck off"! Imho, this is the worst Halloween movie ever. Say what you want about Halloween 5, 6, Resurrection, or the Rob Zombie movies. At least those can be fun to watch as schlocky slasher movies. This movie was not fun to watch at all, the cringe is unreal.
So u hate John carpenters plans for the franchise u don’t u don’t understand his work u act like u don’t but don’t
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 I'm sorry, but could you go into more detail on what you're trying to say?
Sorry, but Halloween Ends is nowhere near as bad as H5, H6, H : Resurrection, RZ's Halloween, RZ's H2, H20, etc etc.
Hey, I agree with most of your statements and takes from the film. Particularly the ones about Laurie. However there are some explanations for the flaws you described. Foremost I think in terms of Allison’s story, she’s a lost and severely damaged person. She feels like she no longer has anyone to share her trauma with now that Laurie is seemingly all good. She especially latches onto Corey because she attracted to him and his trauma as well as the fact that he’s someone her age with whom she can relate to. Last thing I’ll comment on, I actually found Corey to be the best part of the movie. I think Michael fleeing after the last movie was dumb, but with the story they chose it makes sense that he is on decline as he’s getting older and as people seemingly in the last movie we’re not as afraid of him. The way I take it, is that Michael is a vessel for the Shape, a pure evil spirit that takes the form of man. Despite the spirits powers being able to keep Michael alive his physical body is old and in disrepair, especially after the last movie. So the Shape begins to look for the next suitable vessel. This vessel being Corey. And then I think in that last part with Corey and Michael. they didn’t destroy Corey’s body. And one of the last things Michael does is grab Corey’s head and stares into his eyes again while Corey struggles before snapping his neck. Guess that can be seen as Michael maybe transferring over the rest of his evil into him and then fake killing Corey so that the evil shape within could live on. And Corey struggles during that not fully understanding and because the last bits of his humanity still in there are getting killed and replaced by the rest of the shape
Mello you had me DYING LAUGHING. I'm in here cackling. Made it bearable to watch this mess of a movie
they call him the shape cuz he is the shape of evil and it takes many names
The dancing during the opening theme...🤣🤣🤣
The original Halloween 3 had nothing to do with Michael Myers
In rewatching it i dont mind it as much because it shows that the story wasnt about Michael, it was about good vs evil and Laurie was the good and worked to defeat the evil, in Michael as well as in Corey. Michael tried to pass the evil on through Corey and Laurie tried to do the same through Allison and they both thought they failed but in the end good prevailed because Allison came back and they ended it. You can't be too upset about not having full out Michael vs Laurie because they are both in their 60s and have suffered immense physical trauma.
I also think its meant to ve watched all three back to back so its less jarring a change
Best kills of franchise in these three movies lol best Michael too best looks love how his look evolves lol. Loves how Corey taking people out in this lol.
34:10 4:21 the dance moves tho smooth😂😂😂😂enjoyed this reaction
I don’t get the people who have a problem this movie while they like Halloween 4 where we were introduced to Jamie Lloyd in that movie and they had Michael passing his shape powers to his niece by looking in her eyes and by touch when she’s holding his hand. Halloween four was about his niece Jamie but they love that movie that has the same plot as Halloween Ends they loved seeing Jamie as the new SHAPE cuz the shape represents evil not Michael.
3:16 Nosferatu or Michael like Shadow.
4:14 The blue Lettering is a Reference to Halloween III
5:54 Fun Fact: Doug, the son of the Boy who bullied Lonnie in the 1978 Flashback in Halloween Kills!
Fun Fact: Terry is the Grandson of Ben Tramer from Halloween II.
7:37 Dr. Mathis, mentioned in Halloween Kills.
14:02 A few seconds before you can see Michael on the Right.
The transformation remembers me to Jamie in Halloween 4 after she grabbed Michael Hand.
Corey´s Mom deserved to be killed.
18:14 My favourite Scene
20:31 In the Background, you can actually see Corey stabbing Mathis in the Dark.
24:53 That kill is too fast
25:36 A shame to not get more of her death
26:50 The Pumpkin in the Background resembles the one Laurie and the kids made in 1978.
I absolutely love the Soundtrack in the Final Fight!
29:46 Michael reversed it
30:39 When Laurie Turned the Knife you can see Michaels Reflection which resembles the Cover of the Halloween 5 and Resurrection DVDs and Posters!
33:50 The silent tour through the room also resembles Halloween 1978 but without the Breathing
33:50 The Box you can see is the one from Aaron and Dana who died at the Gas Station in 2018.
33:52 You can hear the Song "Don´t fear the Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult also in the Car Scene with Laurie and Annie in Halloween 1978.
32:28 I have still the same Question
It also has good Christine (1985) References:
Corey gets possessed of killing like Arnie of Christine
13:34 Glasses getting broken exactly like Arnis!
In some Scene Corey says "Show it to me", the same said Arnie to Christine!
24:07 Also a Reference
I give this Movie a 8 out of 10!
The novelization of this film is so much better than the film. I highly recommend reading or looking up the plot points.
FUN FACT: the man that did the soundtrack for all 3 of these movies. He wrote and directed the very halloween 1978 movie
And composed it
the last 2 halloween movies in the new trilogy where honestly were the most wtf movie experiences ive ever had. 8 out of 10 would watch it again
This is one those films that most people hated but I have no problems with it.
The sad thing is, I actually think the idea of someone else taking on Michael Myers' persona could work really well. The problem is, the Corey character is not the right character to fit that mold.
Michael has always been about the evil transcending the man. At the end of the day, Michael the man is just a vessel for something darker, more sinister, something that defies individuality. And there are PLENTY of psychopaths and killers out there with the same bottomless black soul that Michael has.
If Corey had been more like that-a cold, mysterious, intimidating loner that nobody understood, who always had an inexplicable penchant for hurting people and animals for no reason other than simple desire to do so-then this story could have worked as a fitting conclusion to this series. Corey could have found Michael, the aged, decrepit, worn-out vessel for the inhuman evil, and Corey could have killed Michael and BECOME him. Because deep down, they WOULD be kindred spirits, both joined by the same transcendent evil soul that always finds a way to take human form throughout time. It wouldn't be some snot-nosed little wannabe kid wanting to play the killer, it would just be another vessel for the evil to inhabit, a younger, stronger vessel with the same mask and the same blackness in his eyes. That would be a perfect ending, because even with Laurie killing Corey at the end, she would know that the evil would always find someone else, and that there would always be more Michaels in the world.
But unfortunately, the director/writers didn't really understand what they wanted to do with these last two movies. True evil doesn't come from being bullied, or being misunderstood. The kind of evil that Michael embodies, is a kind of evil that you just have to be born with. But they didn't understand that, so they tried to make Corey have a progression into becoming a villain, when he should have just been evil from birth. Because as much as we want to believe otherwise, there really are people like that who are just BORN bad, and we may never fully comprehend why.
Which is such a shame, because Halloween 2018 was actually a great sequel to the original. It's such a shame it had to falter like this for what I can only assume is a hyperfixation on weak, specious commentary over actual storytelling.
That was really well said.
If ur going to talk about true crime like u get it please know what ur talking about a lot of serial killers especially serial rapists accidentally kill someone and they can devolve. Jeffery Dahmer’s first two murder victims were accidents not planned a lot serial killers who killed by accident. Cory played the role the city gave him. Just like with Jamie Lloyd Corey wasn’t going around murdering people until they had eye contact and they were touched by him. So ur wrong Corey cuz who did he out right murdered before coming in to contact with Michael I’ll wait? Sweet innocent Jamie had no blood on her hands
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 You're missing my point. I'm not saying serial killers can't be made by circumstance or chance. There are plenty of people who are relatively normal if not for a few wires crossed wrong in their brain that makes them more amenable to harming or killing other living things. But there are people like Michael Myers who are just simply a different class of killer.
Corey is like the first group-an otherwise normal guy with a few anger issues or personality defects that make him more equipped to become a murderer with enough prodding.
But there are people like Michael who are, for lack of a better way of describing it, just born evil. Michael Myers wasn't bullied into becoming a killer (at least, not in this timeline, let's not talk about the Rob Zombie version). He didn't escalate. He just snapped out of nowhere and decided to start butchering his sister. And though they are rare, there are indeed people like Michael Myers in the real world-people who are just born with something so wrong in their brains and their psychology that they can't connect with other human beings, can't forge bonds with them, and just have a natural inclination to cause harm. There are people who are anti-social by nature and who have that same incurable blackness in their souls-they're rarer than your typical serial killer, but they do exist. That's the difference between Corey and Michael.
They’ve called Michael Myers the shape in the 70’s and rob zombie movies but they definitely set it up for another Michael Myers to come into play because they already confirmed more Halloween movies
They haven't confirmed more. It's just speculation
Its gonna be more. Corey is gonna be the next shape
@@_the_rizzler the person who made the damn movie said it so regardless of when it comes out.. is on them.. believe what you want though lol idc 👐🏽💯
@@trouble3911_ probably the granddaughter or Lorie like the og Halloween 4 where the niece took on the shape
@@MerakiKulture Malek Akkad just recently got the rights back after Halloween Ends released and since then, has not confirmed a new Halloween movie. There is no confirmation from anyone in charge of the franchise now. Also, even if it is a new one, it's definitely not gonna be the same timeline
My Ranking for the David Gordon Green Trilogy: Halloween, Halloween Ends and Halloween Kills
I love this one!
Say that ish to my face kid😂😂😂 You are the only reason I can watch this review because I said I would never watch this movie again💯
The Shape is what Michael is. In 1978 script and probably all of the movies, rather than referring to him as Michael, he's called the Shape.
Someone mentioned this being a stand-alone movie would be much better. In the original trilogy Halloween 3 actually never had to do anything with Michael Myers. It revolved around which craft and killer death pumpkins. So bad they decided to jump ahead and continue the story with a flashback instead of ret-coning 3
You should really do all of them... 4 and h2o are gems to me.
U mean this Halloween 4
If ur mad at this be mad at John deep down I think John is pissed at this fan base he wanted this to be anthology but u fans ruined his vision y’all hated three so John sold his rights cuz u fickle fans. The majority of y’all hated Laurie and Michael not being related. The fact that Cory, Laurie and Allyson stayed after the crap they went through y’all have nothing to say about that.
H4 is great, but H2O is god awful.
John Carpenter, who scored the original in 1978, his son Cody Carpenter, and Daniel Davies did the Music for all 3 films. They're currently on tour now.
The first shot after the time jump you see him in his overalls at work he's already half dressed like Michael lol
10:26 it's just that they found out in Halloween kills Michael wasn't going after Laurie. He's just trying to go home and they were in his way. And the house is destroyed too now. So, Michael got no where to go.
Somebody made the point that in 1978 not only was he much younger but of course he was captured and was probably taken to the hospital
He has basically been living in a sewer for four years and never got any medical treatment at all
The book actually goes into a lot more of the explanation and if they had had the extra scenes that the book contains, I think the movie would’ve been much better
This movie was disappointing as a Halloween sequel. I was in the theater arms folded
For all she knew Laurie had the !Michael mask all this time and was planting it on Corey to explain why she killed him lol
Michael Myers has always been refered to as the shape since the OG movies
12:03 yes they did this same shit with Jurrasic World: Dominion.
Was worried I wasn't gunna get to watch the reaction 😅 Clicked on the last one it was copyrighted
RZ’s Halloween really is worth the watch. Not the second one 😂 but the first had a great soundtrack and was real sideways. You should give it a try! Maybe next Melloween ❤️🎃
I watched half this when u preview and went back to watch your reaction to the begin it’s crazy
lmaaaaoo it's been too long since I've watched your vids. Had me cracking up constantly with your commentary this time. I watched this a few weeks ago and was just so confused by the direction they took it
Yeah Corey's story while interesting should not have been the focus of this film. It felt more like Giant filler until what we really wanted to see at the end.
You're issue with her being happy finally is just a bit misguided I feel. After 40 years and losing people...maybe therapy and writing a book was her way of attempting to let it go??? She seemed the HAPPIEST that Laurie will ever be and we won't get another chance at seeing that at least with JLC involved anyways. As someone's who has been through tons of emotional trauma there does come a sort of fuck it point where you choose happiness. This was probably what they intended that to be.
its the Rave dancing for me but i love it
Please give STAR TREK a chance. 🖖
hell na
Friday the 13th Part V did the same thing, but 38 years ago, and FAR better.
He's done that in franchise before by touch or his evil eyes I'm not surprised he can do that here lol. Cool seeing someone infected with this evil and acting like Michael and kind of using it for revenge but also kind of grappling with it turn fully evil or stay with Alison lol
I enjoyed this film... a lot!
Yeah i agree with you I didn’t like this movie as well, I know there’s those out there that do, and i respect it, but this movie for me didn’t hit the landing as a conclusion to this trilogy.
How I think they should have structured the sequels;
Halloween Ends first with a copycat Michael, Laurie trying to live past her 1978 trauma.
Halloween 2018 and Kills where it's a few years after the first sequel and Laurie has been prepping to take Michael down
Loved the sub plot of The Shape possessing Corey.
lol regular people have trouble with medical bills and making appointments to see a doctor, its four years later and Michael has probably only taken Advil for that ass whooping in the last movie
I think Michael became weak because of food. Not because his old, not because he hasn't killed people, but he just has no good food like he used to have in a mental asylum. all Michael probably ate is some garbage waste given by that homeless person in exchange for the homeless person's life and that would probably explain why the homeless person is still alive while Michael has been dragging people into his new home to kill them, as it can be seen on some scenes that some citizens have been missing and Michael probably is the one responsible for that. His old home the Myers house is destroyed and he's purpose on all the Halloween movies is to get back to his house and kill people on the way, and the reason for killing people? I don't know nobody knows he just kills and that's what makes him The Shape. And so now he has no other places to go so he just lives in that sewers until he dies from old age or hunt Laurie down for damaging Michael on every encounter they've been through long time.
I will admit this one does not really feel like a true Halloween movie but despite the lack of myers action the scary ambience makes up for it in my opinion. Plus myers gets a couple of kills in at least
Gotta watch the Pitch Meeting on this! Ryan hits everything you are saying hahaha
Michael has been called the shape since 1978
I just hated the arc of Corey in this. It was extremely rushed. If they had started it earlier then I could have understood it, but in this movie it spends a portion of the movie building him up and then he changes and goes 0 to 60 in no time. And then Allyson goes off the deep end as well. She falls for him extremely fast and you'd think she'd be more willing to listen to her grandma after having spent 2 previous movies proving how neurotic she's been for FORTY YEARS was for good reason. But no...let's have her have an extremely fast paced romance with the guy who also happens to be BFFs with the dude who killed both of her parents and previous boyfriend. This movie just did not work for me. I loved 2018, but Kills and then this...they just didn't work.
So it's like Jason goes to hell?! Except they don't eat his heart lol
This was like making roy the killer in the friday 13th series.
kids in downtown Haddonfield are something else