thank you bogur before i watched this video i was bitchless bronze 4 player but after finishing it i am grandmaster 1 many many women love me and i have a lot of money
Holy smokes, I didn't expect an actual guide. And on top of that, this one was REALLY GOOD! It was so well structured and I feel like I've learned a lot and the jokes in between made it way easier to pay attention, but weren't over the top! An honest pleasant surprise! Good job! Keep diving :) Edit: Usually I do sarcastic comments to boost the algorithm, but I actually mean it this time!
One tip i think you missed on bubble that a lot of new players dont understand is this; when you use it it goes STRAIGHT DOWN from when u pressed the button, it has 0 horizontal movement. Lots of new winton players use it way too early before their engage and wonder where it went, always always always wait to use it til u hit the ground (unless youre bubbling an air target like dva bomb or phara/echo mercy)
That's actually a bad advice, as a Winston u need to protect urself from abilities like sleep, boop and hooks etc.. which requires to drop the shield earlier
Im not that good with winston but a good tip if you want to use your bubble mid air would be to move with your keyboard in the opposite direction to decresease the speed you move and stay inside of the bubble while you are in air
I'll be honest when I saw you made a guide I was really something along the lines of "WINTON is a brawler tank that should focus on dueling other tanks" but an actual guide and it was entertaining too? Good stuff man well made
This needs to be more common knowledge. It doesn't increase dps at all. It only saves some ammo. However, if you miss the melee you miss all 30 damage that could have been easier to hit with the primary fire. The dps is the same, higher burst damage, but easier to miss. The jump melee is only free damage only before ult.
Its good because it's a burst. JQ lost her one shot potential when her knife throw became 50 + 30 , her old knife throw was flat 80 dmg. Having burst dmg helps
in addition something i found out is melee cancel does the same DPS as holding down left click. its harder to hit but it doesnt cost you any ammo, so use it when u need to save ammo and you know you can hit it. otherwise holding down primary fire on the way down does the same amount of damage. hope this helps
Great guide! I'm trying to learn Winston and just realized how difficult he is in terms of positioning and decision-making. I got pretty confident with Rein and Sigma and most of the time I manage to create good value as them, but as a Winston I always end up feeding a lot and dying. I really liked your examples of when to dive. I think I'm always trying to be very agressive, diving on targets disregarding how my team can I help, how can I retreat and if the enemies have their CDs. I hope this will help me improve.
Thank you for the guide Bogur. In the future, would you be able to make a video on defending as winston please ? The aggression and playing slow to pick dive doesn't work as well on defense than attack in my games. Maybe it is a low elo struggle than teammates don't know how to wait for monkey to initiate making us not protecting them.
try to use defending advantage: extra time to set up. pick a spot where you can pressure the enemy while they're getting to their positions (rotating). zap as many squishies as possible, preferably after their tank walks through choke. if you're talking about how your team engages before you can do that, then spend some time in the prefight standing in front of ur team, getting info and right clicking, THEN jump to a staging spot to dive from. just pick your opening spot based around your team's opening spots. defending ideally should be easier on winton because you have the free time to set up.
Great video to start learning Winston, well done bogur. I would love to see another one going in-depth on Primal Rage, there is so much to know about this ult, it'd be really interesting!
I like how in the avoid at all costs graphic there is just a picture of Dva. When playing Dva against Winston it feels like your primary fire does double damage he just dies so fast, but you’d be astonished how many people switch to Winston against her for some reason.
@@sickandafraid it isn’t. You seem to have misunderstood both me and the video. The video says, not once but twice, that you should avoid Dva at pretty much all costs. The bubble isn’t very good against her because she can just boop you out of it. Also because she does a silly amount of damage at close range she breaks it like it’s a piece of sugar glass, then she kills you because all her pellets hit you in the face since you have such a big head.
There is also the fact that tesla gun deal less dps than melee to shield so against a tanky hero (brig, Zarya, Winston..) it's preferable to spam melee while using the tesla Canon, dealing same damage and giving more time before the reload
Oh, I don't think this was mentioned, but if you allow your left arm to go back up, (basically, allow your character to fall a bit from a normal jump) you jump a bit further, and if you go through someone, you do 1 damage. Which is NOTHING and meaningless, unless you NEED to do 1 additional damage. Further, diving through a character, bumps the character back toward your team, an edge, etc.. and slightly increases their run back to safety. Min/maxxing with winston is the only way to go.
Update on 7:57: Idk if it’s just me but after the magnetic grenade update cass seems way more risky to deal with because he’s just going to remove your jump and just alt f4 you
Winton tier: Watchpoint Gibraltar, Numbani, Rio, Dorado Good tier: Some new map, Hollywood, Lijiang, Eichenwalde, Blizzard World, Route 66 Playable tier: Oasis, Some new map, Busan, Ilios, Rialto, Nepal, Some new map 1984 flashback tier: Havana, King's Row, Colosseo, Junkertown I don't know most of the names of the new maps. Sorry :(
if you play in the metal ranks: see if u can bait the reaper into your team. i've played against a lot of reapers who tunnel vision me bc they think "must counter monke, must go brr". if you can consistently force wraith by leading them into unsafe spots, they'll either swap or stay getting little value.
Literally just bubble dance you can 1v1 reaper and win, reaper is just good at denying diving in but so is mcree, arguably a more effective counter because he has range advantage
you forgot the most important part, how to combo someone when primal, they won't know how to hit someone mid leap. that is possibly the most important and fun part of juggling anybody.
Idk i dive on reins all the time and i be doin work to em i think winston and wreckingball are crazy for killing rein because his sheild cant stop them from smacking him around
i have done the guide now leave me alone
also i do vod reviews for a sub every saturday on my twitch ( www.twitch.tv/bogur )
when is the next guide coming out ?
Wheres the Skin Tierlist?!
Thank you bogur now i can argue with my team better
😂
I can't wait for my dps to throw the game do zero damage and then blame it on the support/tank
it’s always a “tank diff”
The true meta in OW2
thank you bogur before i watched this video i was bitchless bronze 4 player but after finishing it i am grandmaster 1 many many women love me and i have a lot of money
Eskay was heree!!
OMG A WILD ESKAY
2:30
“I used bubble to save sleeping Cass”
The sleeping Cass after being saved: solo press W to the entire enemy team”
Holy smokes, I didn't expect an actual guide. And on top of that, this one was REALLY GOOD!
It was so well structured and I feel like I've learned a lot and the jokes in between made it way easier to pay attention, but weren't over the top!
An honest pleasant surprise! Good job! Keep diving :)
Edit: Usually I do sarcastic comments to boost the algorithm, but I actually mean it this time!
One tip i think you missed on bubble that a lot of new players dont understand is this; when you use it it goes STRAIGHT DOWN from when u pressed the button, it has 0 horizontal movement. Lots of new winton players use it way too early before their engage and wonder where it went, always always always wait to use it til u hit the ground (unless youre bubbling an air target like dva bomb or phara/echo mercy)
as a non winton god i struggle with this
@@forebearerr its all about cooldown timing and resources, ebb and flow, you'll get the hang of it once you play enough
That's actually a bad advice, as a Winston u need to protect urself from abilities like sleep, boop and hooks etc.. which requires to drop the shield earlier
Im not that good with winston but a good tip if you want to use your bubble mid air would be to move with your keyboard in the opposite direction to decresease the speed you move and stay inside of the bubble while you are in air
@@germanluque9756 valid!
Thank you bogur, your video helped me master his jumps in 3 seconds
Wild how accurate Winston's jump can be.
I'll be honest when I saw you made a guide I was really something along the lines of "WINTON is a brawler tank that should focus on dueling other tanks" but an actual guide and it was entertaining too? Good stuff man well made
The melee slam is indeed an "animation cancel", but you're still locked out of attacking for the duration of it.
This needs to be more common knowledge. It doesn't increase dps at all. It only saves some ammo. However, if you miss the melee you miss all 30 damage that could have been easier to hit with the primary fire. The dps is the same, higher burst damage, but easier to miss. The jump melee is only free damage only before ult.
If you punch earlier than mentioned, u might not hit the punch as much but atleast itll let you use your primary fire instantly
@@valentinotraverso13 or just use your primary fire the whole time
Its good because it's a burst.
JQ lost her one shot potential when her knife throw became 50 + 30 , her old knife throw was flat 80 dmg. Having burst dmg helps
@@abhinandhari7812 only if that burst damage was enough to finish them off. if it wasnt, then there's no point it's just more risk for the same reward
I really love that you gave maps on what maps is winston hood and which maps he isn't. I wish there where more of it.
in addition something i found out is
melee cancel does the same DPS as holding down left click.
its harder to hit but it doesnt cost you any ammo, so use it when u need to save ammo and you know you can hit it. otherwise holding down primary fire on the way down does the same amount of damage.
hope this helps
Great guide! I'm trying to learn Winston and just realized how difficult he is in terms of positioning and decision-making. I got pretty confident with Rein and Sigma and most of the time I manage to create good value as them, but as a Winston I always end up feeding a lot and dying. I really liked your examples of when to dive. I think I'm always trying to be very agressive, diving on targets disregarding how my team can I help, how can I retreat and if the enemies have their CDs. I hope this will help me improve.
It’s finally here pog
Great video as usual, loved the "a lot of depth" part lol
Most fun guide I have watched, thanks for the guide itself and the laughs :D
Awesome guide Bogur ! Love the Bulgarian humour as well. 😆😉
Anyone watching in 2024, don't dive Cassidy, he'll shred you
Yeap:)
I might only be gold, but I'm here watching this thinking Cass must've changed a lot in the last two years lol. He's literally the anti-dive DPS pick.
Great job on the vid. Editing was god tier.
Outstanding video. I will pickup Winston now and practice my combo dive.
humming the bassline in the background. you've earned my sub.
Thank you for the guide Bogur. In the future, would you be able to make a video on defending as winston please ? The aggression and playing slow to pick dive doesn't work as well on defense than attack in my games. Maybe it is a low elo struggle than teammates don't know how to wait for monkey to initiate making us not protecting them.
try to use defending advantage: extra time to set up. pick a spot where you can pressure the enemy while they're getting to their positions (rotating). zap as many squishies as possible, preferably after their tank walks through choke. if you're talking about how your team engages before you can do that, then spend some time in the prefight standing in front of ur team, getting info and right clicking, THEN jump to a staging spot to dive from. just pick your opening spot based around your team's opening spots. defending ideally should be easier on winton because you have the free time to set up.
Great video to start learning Winston, well done bogur. I would love to see another one going in-depth on Primal Rage, there is so much to know about this ult, it'd be really interesting!
Agree would love an in-depth primal video!
Please, yes
Karq has one like that
@@Blieu That's true but I wanted to know from Bogur's POV to see it differently
Maaan, so happy to see you here dropping guides and shit, top stuff!
Thanks bogur now i can de-evolve as my ancestors and dive squishys
well done guide! the ult is sooo hard to learn for me man
I like how in the avoid at all costs graphic there is just a picture of Dva. When playing Dva against Winston it feels like your primary fire does double damage he just dies so fast, but you’d be astonished how many people switch to Winston against her for some reason.
im assuming because of his bubble, it provides great defense for not only him but his entire team im guessing its good against dva
DVa against DVa is good, and vice versa
@@sickandafraid it isn’t. You seem to have misunderstood both me and the video. The video says, not once but twice, that you should avoid Dva at pretty much all costs. The bubble isn’t very good against her because she can just boop you out of it. Also because she does a silly amount of damage at close range she breaks it like it’s a piece of sugar glass, then she kills you because all her pellets hit you in the face since you have such a big head.
There is also the fact that tesla gun deal less dps than melee to shield so against a tanky hero (brig, Zarya, Winston..) it's preferable to spam melee while using the tesla Canon, dealing same damage and giving more time before the reload
You’re the best juggler I’ve ever seen
This was a great guide, please make more
10:36 midtown* :)
Other than that lovely guide, kinda looking into improving my Winston to not be a rein one trick xD
Your humor is hilarious pls make more guides haha
The jet set radio track in the background really gets my 🪿
My name is Winston and since its a relatively rare name its so refreshing/interesting to hear it spoken when people are not talking to or about me 😅😅
WINTON🙉
You're hilarious and still informative. I enjoyed the video and learnt alot. Thanks
Ohhhh very good guide. Thanks Mr. bogur
10:55 must be nice to have Smart team members.
Happy Birthday Bogur!
Good guide mr bogur. Good jet set radio vibes too
i loved this guide! I dont even play monkey but i love your vids because you are hilarious
great winston guide!
Oh, I don't think this was mentioned, but if you allow your left arm to go back up, (basically, allow your character to fall a bit from a normal jump) you jump a bit further, and if you go through someone, you do 1 damage. Which is NOTHING and meaningless, unless you NEED to do 1 additional damage. Further, diving through a character, bumps the character back toward your team, an edge, etc.. and slightly increases their run back to safety.
Min/maxxing with winston is the only way to go.
THANK YOU BOGUR!!!!
0:53 nice orange👀
Update on 7:57: Idk if it’s just me but after the magnetic grenade update cass seems way more risky to deal with because he’s just going to remove your jump and just alt f4 you
Thank you! great content!
One of the best
GREAT VID- THANK YOU!!
Love this! Great work dude! 😊
Love Winston but don't love feeding. Hopefully this will help bring back balance to the force 🤣
That's a pretty nice guide, but i'm new on overwatch 2 and not recognize all maps in the 12:03, if anyone can put their names make my work so easy
Winton tier: Watchpoint Gibraltar, Numbani, Rio, Dorado
Good tier: Some new map, Hollywood, Lijiang, Eichenwalde, Blizzard World, Route 66
Playable tier: Oasis, Some new map, Busan, Ilios, Rialto, Nepal, Some new map
1984 flashback tier: Havana, King's Row, Colosseo, Junkertown
I don't know most of the names of the new maps. Sorry :(
@@katiesmood-j4b thanks, that helps a lot
@@ryomagatsu8384 No problemo :)
really good guide overall the only thing there was missing for me, it would be how to play against reaper without getting bullied
best way to avoid reaper is by dying (in game)
if you play in the metal ranks: see if u can bait the reaper into your team. i've played against a lot of reapers who tunnel vision me bc they think "must counter monke, must go brr". if you can consistently force wraith by leading them into unsafe spots, they'll either swap or stay getting little value.
@@goo3154 I play in plat, so I'm gonna try that out
@@bogur dying ( irl) lmao
Literally just bubble dance you can 1v1 reaper and win, reaper is just good at denying diving in but so is mcree, arguably a more effective counter because he has range advantage
banger
12:02 played winton in colosseo, ended up getting 44-2 with their JQ getting 3-12
you forgot the most important part, how to combo someone when primal, they won't know how to hit someone mid leap.
that is possibly the most important and fun part of juggling anybody.
Amazing choice of music
I like the choice of Jet Set Radio OST
Is my timing wrong, or does the melee jump actually prolong the time before i can tesla afterwards?
Im a bit late but he was nerfed so that his recovery time is 50% longer
I only came for the Winston crosshairs, tysm :D
10:47 poor kraige just got roasted
Idk i dive on reins all the time and i be doin work to em i think winston and wreckingball are crazy for killing rein because his sheild cant stop them from smacking him around
There's an option in the options menu so that you can no longer cancel your right click, it always goes off. I think it's good to check it.
Best guide
When you dive do you save a jump for emergency
The strongest thing about Winston is "hey im bogur nano me nano me im Winston nano me"
Ain't no way this man linked his Tiktok and said with a straight face that he posts useful tips on there xD
Is 1984 a reference to the book? Is it a Bulgarian refrence I dont understand?
I’ve only tried Winston on qp and I’ve been performing so time for comp
As a main Winston player if you wanna be good whit him you need a good healer to
How do I deal with reapers/Torb/bastion as winton? I want to specialize as Winston but as soon as I play well everyone swaps
Moria can also heal and damage thru bubble by using her purple and green balls
I have 30 seconds before this round starts and this video is about 14 minutes long, that math does not math
40 meters now.
We are truly sniper monkeys...
very bog
god gamer
winton.
At low elo you can win agasint reaper if you shield dance very well
Genji is a easy target cause you go through the deflect and can follow him
Love the guide. That poor random plat dps dying on midtown KEKW
Sick now I can get yelled at by my Perma dead dps moria teammate for not being his bodyguard the whole game.
Oh no, now I'll have to face a bunch of winstons on my game
WINTON
winton
@muslim winton overwatch
BIG
"and a lot of depth 🍑"
On console you only jump forward
Winton
Winston, the Balkan way.
Where's the alt fire jump melee
Wheres the Skin Tierlist?!
winton overwat
Roadhog guide pls
winston has the bet ooolt-mate
Ngl I want to start playing winston but the metal rank reaper bastion picks put my ass in the ground
Gyatt
remember to look away from a dva bomb to counter its damage!!!!!
Why doesn’t anyone counter rein with winton 😅(ive always won) also you didn’t mention to dance im and out of bubble😢
THAT DEPTH THO
LMAO the tiktok icon
Is this why some Winston's think it's a good idea to dive me on junk with all my cool downs still?
the 84 reference