OW2 WINSTON GUIDE: Bogur Coaches Monkey + TANK DISCUSSION

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  • Winston isn't in a great spot, but that never stops Bogur, Winston mastermind, from absolutely dominating every lobby on Winston. Bogur and Spilo work together (well... Spilo tries to help anyway) in coaching two Diamond Winston players on Winston fundamentals, plus a plethora of tips, tricks, and mental advice for ranked. Oh, and Bogur also roasts OW2 team for tank balance just for fun at the end...
    BIG THANKS TO BOGUR: / bogur and / @bogur
    OW2 Coaching: coachspilo.com...
    Watch Live on Twitch: / spilo
    Discord: / discord
    Patreon: / spilo
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    Instagram: / coach_spilo
    Twitter: / coach_spilo
    VOD Channel: / @spilo2
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    Thanks for watching!

ความคิดเห็น • 68

  • @bogur
    @bogur ปีที่แล้ว +176

    winton

  • @yasuh4550
    @yasuh4550 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Loving the way Spilo uses this as an opportunity to make his own points, to have Bogur confirm things in his own wordings

    • @riordian2
      @riordian2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      xD it's called a conversation between two people who are knowledgable about the topic, you should see academic debates then, boy is it gonna be a wild discovery lol

    • @Omar_05
      @Omar_05 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riordian2😂

  • @nidhishshivashankar4885
    @nidhishshivashankar4885 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    YO IVE BEEN CARRYING GAMES AS WINSTON EVER SINCE WATCHING THIS
    I never knew I was supposed to go off on my own I kept trying to support my team as much as possible
    Thank you Bogur 🙏

  • @brentskupien7658
    @brentskupien7658 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    took me so long to realize how good Monke is, both in game and on a spiritual level

    • @diegogallardo8281
      @diegogallardo8281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL

    • @PatrickArcato
      @PatrickArcato 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's the perfect character for boring people with no soul

  • @hypermobilesinger
    @hypermobilesinger ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Really appreciated the discussion at the end. I one-trick Rein bc I’m disabled and he’s literally the only character I can play rn. Sometimes I put in 2x the effort and lose, but it’s plat-diamond: there’s always a way to mtd. It’s figuring out what that is and trying to be smart that makes the game fun.

    • @williamlevy6964
      @williamlevy6964 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey bro. Doesn't matter if you're disabled. You could pick up winston/dva and a poke tank like sigma/zarya or if you're feeling real zesty, Roadhog. As long as you can play one of each for poke, brawl and dive comp you can pick to synergise with your dps and supports and drastically increase your win rate.

    • @janterri3539
      @janterri3539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you actually disabled or was that a joke?

    • @bruhmoment1247
      @bruhmoment1247 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@williamlevy6964 he might be physically disabled which would make aiming hard

    • @donaldmcdermott5425
      @donaldmcdermott5425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williamlevy6964

  • @reifenrir
    @reifenrir ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I fucking love dis bingus winton man

  • @neilmallick20
    @neilmallick20 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for this guide! Was very helpful.

  • @kitetsu6709
    @kitetsu6709 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "See the mercy plays selfishly😂 she pulls out the glock" hahaha

  • @J.R.Swish1
    @J.R.Swish1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great collaboration 👍👍👍 I will never pass up on any opportunities to get better at Winton and tank in general, even as a dps main

  • @Teki_nashi52574
    @Teki_nashi52574 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Winton Overwat

    • @Hejdo8
      @Hejdo8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Truly

  • @ItsHeracles
    @ItsHeracles ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’d be so happy if my gameplay got reviewed by not only a pro coach, but also one of the best players in the world at my hero

  • @bokajon
    @bokajon ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Like the new outro music - super chill!

    • @CoachSpilo
      @CoachSpilo  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thanks! it's something we wrote ;)

  • @joebolt1657
    @joebolt1657 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would 100000% listen to the Spilo/Bogur podcast

  • @Switch_X_Back3884
    @Switch_X_Back3884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bc of your videos like this. Ive been playing Ow2 like a month. Playing with winston like only 33 hours in comp with him. Have over 225 games played and have a 59% win rate with him. So,IF I, can do it. Anyone should be able to if you want.

  • @danialwithana
    @danialwithana ปีที่แล้ว +8

    MY LOVE FOR SPILO WILL NEVER DIE ❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍🥰🥰

  • @L2kneel
    @L2kneel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bogur completely on point with having to play selfish with Winston at low elo

  • @wm8401
    @wm8401 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hell yes

  • @Switch_X_Back3884
    @Switch_X_Back3884 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Winston's Bubble can cover D.vas Ult, and you won't die. Or your teammates can get in the bubble with and you won't die.

  • @mrbapplejuice4855
    @mrbapplejuice4855 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love bogur!

  • @NextGeneration_
    @NextGeneration_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this video!

  • @rayc7914
    @rayc7914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Overwatch hero design team can use some ideas in the last 20 minutes. It might be hard in practice to develop and balance heroes that satisfy the metals' dopamine and not threaten tanks with high skill ceilings so that the tryhards also enjoy the game, but I believe it is the correct direction. This is probably the only way every type of competitive player can enjoy their share of wins and losses.

  • @ASOW_Mr0wl
    @ASOW_Mr0wl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When spill says “sure” I always get confused and think he’s contradicting hogue but then he agrees 😂

  • @murdock3764
    @murdock3764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shit was dope

  • @Smitten02
    @Smitten02 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    on a 13 game loss streak trying to learn winston, everyone just runs through me without a care in the world and if i jump away my whole team dies instantly :((

    • @avand8928
      @avand8928 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If youre still having this issue, try playing Winston as more of a distraction (This helps your team have room to push), get the enemy's attention by focusing their squishy supports or dps that are in the back lines. Make sure you bubble dance and dont over stay your welcome and always have an exit strategy. Dont ever go face to face with your hard counters and know when to switch off monke, he's not always viable even if it hurts to leave him

  • @Crunchynoodly
    @Crunchynoodly ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful video, very insightful and educational!

  • @HuxleysShaggyDog
    @HuxleysShaggyDog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time I hear Spilo talk about a brisket I think of flats, since the flat is half of a brisket. The other half is the point.
    When do we have points enter the creator meta?

  • @yomama2376
    @yomama2376 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate bogur understanding that the dev team will always prioritize casuals over the pros. It kills the game for the league and streamers, but the devs want the money from casuals to keep coming. Too many top players don’t really get that the devs are probably never going to try to fix the rock paper scissors meta just because they want them to. Not that this meta is a good thing, but bogur’s statement just put things in perspective for a lot of people.

  • @shaemckinney1491
    @shaemckinney1491 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a 31 year old stoner dad in GM that sometimes throws bc of brainless decisions, I resent that comment from Bogur.

  • @TheBasedUchiha
    @TheBasedUchiha ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 min in and this is so true. 99% of people don't think about anything when they dive or do anything. I've noticed it for a while, but recently I've started asking my teammates what circumstances are ideal for them which ones are subpar, what their strategy is, what we're they thinking in that last fight, etc.
    I would say approximately 180/200 people not only have no clue... but the very idea that they should be thinking about moves before they make them or have an overall strategy seems to be completely foreign to them. The most likely reaction I get the most is something like " is that something you do? I never do any of that, I'm not a try hard.
    Weirdly enough it seems that gaming is developing a culture similar to the urban school culture, where people would rather fail miserably while "being too cool to put in effort" than be "a try hard by putting in effort or being intentional".

    • @mrgiraffe1577
      @mrgiraffe1577 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbh I'm the kind of guy that is always looking to improve but my friends really don't care about their rank or their gameplay they just want to have fun.
      We have been playing overwatch for the same time and I'm master's and they are silver. I'm curious, what rank where you asking these questions to?

    • @1stNumberOne
      @1stNumberOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Urban school culture 😳. I wouldn’t compare that to overwatch in the slightest. That’s a more nuanced situation that “trying to look cool”.
      I do work in that area of expertise. It’s more about upbringing and where education falls in terms of priority. Also if you’ve never seen anyone do it (be successful through education) it isn’t real. Or a viable solution to the current problem or situation. Also when your stuck in survival mode people usually look for immediate fixes. It’s not that simple to just look for a long term solution when your worried about eating that night.
      Don’t compare that to overwatch and trying to look cool. They’re two different things and it’s extremely dismissive.

  • @jonamsden9074
    @jonamsden9074 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This comment won’t be seen bc I’m late to this vid but the names on blue team lmao

  • @ex_interp
    @ex_interp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:17:45 if the devs thought this way then the game would have a better chance of reaching the potential it has as a competitive game. Instead, it's so easy to shut down hundreds or even thousands of hours of practice, effort, and thinking with poor game design in the form of abilities and characters that reward the people that don't want to put in the effort or the time. Just go look at Spilo 2 and see the characters being coached and the characters rarely, if ever, being coached. This is not a coincidence... In its current state, this game actively punishes new players that are trying to learn the harder characters. There will always be a need for low skill floor characters in this game, but when those same characters are so powerful at the lower level that it's discouraging newer players from putting in more effort and time into this game then it's ironically become a reason why long term player retention is so low. "Short sighted gains for long term pains."

  • @whaloob
    @whaloob ปีที่แล้ว

    17:38 why did his bubble cooldown instantly go from 5s to 0?

    • @ghoulraf
      @ghoulraf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think it resets after u get a kill just like genji

    • @diogolee7739
      @diogolee7739 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i think it is just a visual bug from watching it sped up, if you watch the same part before that replay it is normal

    • @wendeez2845
      @wendeez2845 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you still don't know, kitsune rush speeds up cooldowns

  • @donkeykong315
    @donkeykong315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wind tunnel over what?

  • @CoachSpilo
    @CoachSpilo  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    BIG THANKS TO BOGUR: www.twitch.tv/bogur and www.youtube.com/@bogur

  • @aaronstacey9612
    @aaronstacey9612 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    villager ass laugh

  • @COMPHIPPO
    @COMPHIPPO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Starts at 7:12

  • @kfcblaziken495
    @kfcblaziken495 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)

  • @alexnice2221
    @alexnice2221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Winston is garbage with 400 health in open play. Worse char ever. You have to build an entire team around him, like where is the fun in that ? And did I mention his awful ultimate ? Idgaf about the fake juggle tech, in open play it doesnt matter

    • @bradsharpe9413
      @bradsharpe9413 ปีที่แล้ว

      what is open play?

    • @shutup11337
      @shutup11337 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@bradsharpe9413 i think hes talking open queue lmao. i legitimately do not know why people play open q. who enjoys double/triple tanks lmao tf

    • @Gmdgamerepico
      @Gmdgamerepico ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fake juggle tech lmao

    • @Whires
      @Whires ปีที่แล้ว +6

      open play isn't competitive overwatch

    • @fedorkukuev4766
      @fedorkukuev4766 ปีที่แล้ว

      the juggle tech is fake, government has been lying to us

  • @kyoukisu3628
    @kyoukisu3628 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Winton Overwat

  • @zelly8649
    @zelly8649 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    winton

  • @septipuss3578
    @septipuss3578 ปีที่แล้ว

    winton