@@twinodoomShe literally just came to the conclusion that she has nothing else to live for and nothing else to do and sinks into a catonic state. And it's explicitly stated that the Cat can only take over people that are experience absolute stress of their idenity to the point of being mindbroken. How does that *not* qualify as a crisis?
Bro, can we talk about how effectively this damn cat is weaponizing Jaune's trauma. Penny was more than enough but then u have it so Phyrra stabs him, godamn that's brutal
I can never understand how a villain can take on the appearance if an ally right in front of a hero and the hero hesitates. It's fucking retarded, you know it ain't the dead bitch, stab her ass.
I really love the music score when it switches between the external fight sequence to Ruby’s inner turmoil with trying to find herself again. Makes the scene more intense.
@@miguelclaros1212 Jaune cae del árbol con su escudo en llamas y en ese instante aparece el mismo humo que fuma el herbolario. Quizás pase por la misma reflexión que tuvieron las chicas y acepte quien es.
So that axe belonged to Summer before. Does that mean Ruby’s new weapon will be a combination of her mom’s axe and Crescent Rose? That blacksmith is giving the Middle Earth Elven blacksmiths a run for their money.
I hope neither, I hope she will learn from her mom and evolve her own way. I am a bit tired of Ruby following into the steps of others, she needs to become herself.
It's just me but remembering that Ruby is based on the story of Little Red Riding Hood, an innocent girl, something ironic is that Ruby wants to be a Hunter... but something that was never noticed is that there is a character in the story that never appeared and it is "The Hunter" who saves Little Red Hood from the wolf's stomach using an axe... And taking that Ruby will become the Hunter saving herself from the jaws of depression
The Hunter was Summer since it's her axe, but Summer wasn't there to save Ruby on account of being dead. So Ruby has to become the new Hunter and take her mother's place.
@@ryubimaru Not quite. Port was loosely based on "Peter and the Wolf," a Russian story/musical piece about a young boy going out to hunt a wolf alongside his animal companions.
I’m hoping she doesn’t get rid of Crescent Rose because that’s the series iconic weapon. I’m also hoping she doesn’t turn into her own mother because that would be both weird and leave even more questions
@@TheToaprimezilla I'm sure she won't, and I doubt she'll turn into her mom, cause that'd be too weird, cause I have a feeling that the axe won't be an ordinary weapon, something that contains her mother's spirit the second she touches it, and that'd be heartfelt reunion, and the fact that Summer will be the one to save Ruby, to remind her of who she is, and what she is, and what's really important.
@@pauljordan0203 that sounds cool and I’m hoping for that. Ruby went through a journey this volume. She can’t change by becoming somebody else. She has to change the person she currently is
The contrast of the physical fight between Curious-Neo and JWBY and the internal conflict Ruby is having of what she wants to be...was well done. Marvelous scene.
Far from well. The choreography isn't the best, amd while you can say it's an "impactful scene", it doesn't really flow too well. Parts of it looks neat, but it doesn't feel too exceptional or good
Mans just to good. Happy Chaos from Guilty Gear, Chao from HI-FI Rush, im pretty sure he VA'd that Swordsmith in Demon Slayer who makes Tanjiro's weapon.
I have a theory, that she's going to talk to her mother, or at least a memory of her left in the weapon, who will give her closure and push her to be herself.
Neo turns into Nora against Ren? Ren's stunned, then reduced to tears. Neo turns into Oscar against Ruby? Ruby panicking and whimpering, later killing Oscar pushes her over the edge. Neo turns into Penny against Jaune? 20 years later, it's still enough to leave him stunlocked and in despair ... Neo sends zombie Rubys after Yang after Ruby killed herself? zero hesitation, yang punches them guess CC should've made Blake clones huh
Yang usually reacts with rage and physical blows though, especially compared to Ruby and Ren, who are typically on the other end of the emotional spectrum. Their anger is often more layered with tears, conflicting emotions, and as you mentioned, hesitance. With Yang, I'm not surprised she punched the crap out of the Ruby zombies because A. That's how she responds to most forms of mockery or taunts, such as in the fight with Mercury B. They don't look anything like the real Ruby. Curious isn't putting up an acting performance, they're making the zombies off-color and with very distorted expressions. Ren's hesitation with the Nora copy was probably in part because of the fact that the fake actually looked like her and made him double-take C. Ruby was caught up in a battle with all of her trauma. She wasn't thinking or reacting efficiently even as she acknowledged none of the copies were real as she was getting jumped by her dead friends D. Yang's first reaction was to rip the branches off of Ruby's wood 'cocoon'. She acts before she thinks, 95% of the time.
@@MrAuthor3DS Exactly my thoughts. If CC had used Blake as suggested, but altered them as badly as they had Ruby, Yang would've still had E rated hands.
@@MrAuthor3DS Insults? You know what else would be an insult? The fact that Neo turns into all of these other characters *right in front of them.* Neo might as well be pasting a mask on in front of their very eyes, but the image alone leaves them *shattered.* Not to mention that after the sister is dead, seeing these corrupted versions of herself brought up directly as a possibility when talking about how she might not be her should, if anything, hit harder.
*crossed fingers* Don't turn Ruby into Summer. Don't ruin this whole build up of her being in a really bad mental state, growing up with unrealistic expectations of herself, run right back around into being the overly optimistic speech dispenser. Please. Don't ruin all this progress and back pedal.
I don’t think it’s back peddling. If she doesn’t make a choice and just stays herself that’d be back peddling. She needs to become someone else and she needs to remember that she was okay as yourself in the long run
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 But, my ultimate point is - Summer Rose isn't Ruby. Ruby can't be her mother and fill those same shoes perfectly. That's what brought Ruby to the tree in the first place. Made her drink the tea from the start. Putting a mantle over her own emotional and mental health, forcing herself to stay positive for everyone else's sake, bottling everything up until she broke. It's not healthy to keep idolizing Summer the way Ruby has. Seeing the fable before the person and the flaws, trying to be perfect because the deepest understanding of her late mother she has, is that she was perfect. Everyone loved Summer. No one could say anything bad about her. And how could they to her surviving daughter? So how could Ruby not want to be her? Be the perfect hero that saves the day? Ruby grew up shielded not just from physical harm, but from reality and never grew up with any baseline understanding of just how hopeless life could be at times. Her uncle embellished his every adventure, her sister read her stories every night before bed, and Tai was nothing short of encouraging. She even became a huntress because she wanted to be that hero from the story books. And that's such a disparaging leap from what it actually means to be a huntress, especially right now. With the world crumbling down around all four kingdoms. Ruby never had a point where someone sat her down and explained to her the harsh truths of life. And the moments where those truths reared their ugly heads? Ruby could only handle things how she'd been reared to : endure, smile, and do your best. And that, imo, can't be how Ruby remains. That version of Ruby is deeply rooted in toxic positivity and a lack of experience. But she can't end up as Summer either. She shouldn't. There has been a Summer Rose, a sweet, capable huntress who left her mark on her heart she ever touched. And not that those traits are inherently bad, because they aren't. But turning Ruby into an echo of Summer would just reaffirm that toxic positivity. 'You, Ruby Rose, got to endure and be EXACTLY who you wanted to be, by running yourself into the ground so far, you forgot which way was up and which way was down. You burned yourself out so deeply you decided you didn't want to live anymore. So here's your prize. You get to be your idol.' It makes what Ruby did, something that is rewarded by the universe. And a reward so grand, it'll just magically undo her depression, and her fears, and her doubts... That's wrong. That is unequivocally inane. Because that's tossing everything Ruby went through and how it hurt her - out the window, just to 'reboot' her into something more pleasant. You erase the tea scene. You erase her outburst. You kill every inch of depth to Ruby Rose by making her someone that, at this point, she should never be able to be.
@@sagezemage8834 Maybe that she became drastically weaker than when she was an android. When she was a fully robotic Winter maiden she kicked the dogshit out of Cinder and Emerald despite having a 2:1 disadvantage, but after becoming human she was defeated by Cinder despite having a 3:1 advantage from fighting alongside team RWBY and Jaune against just Cinder and Neo.
@@sagezemage8834 She lost her android-like reflexes and senses, caving into emotions like fear and excess compassion in a situation where Cinder was taking advantage of that. If Penny fought at full intensity like she did the first time against Cinder because she had nothing to physically hold her back, Cinder would've been sent straight into the Ever After.
The Curious Cat had Neo turn into Penny, knowing Jaune would hesitate, so could use a facsimile of Pyrrha to strike him from behind. Total dick move by the Curious Cat. Damn, I hate it when people fall for that trick. I'm like "Come on that's not your friend! You just saw them transform into them!"
But in this case he knows. It's his trauma making him hesitate. He's just broken from waiting and never healing from killing Penny. With Pyrrha, it sealed the tactical advantage. Two people who have died on his watch. Not stopping Pyrrha from fighting Cinder and actually dealing the blow to take Penny's short lived human life.
Bcoz their image launches him into the abyss of memories,like just seeing penny might invoked the memory of him killing her,this distracts jaune and that actually gave time for curious neo to strike jaune,although using pyrrha to further invoke his mental pain says the curious cat being sadistic
Just because you know it's fake doesn't mean your body won't instinctively react by hesitating due to trauma. It's less falling for it but more involuntary or knee-jerk reactions.
that's the thing with PTSD you do not get to decide what or when something will set you off and how bad the initial response will be. I froze up from fireworks before when I first got home then I remembered I'm home and its New years not explosions but in a fight that second to remember that could cause you to loose the upper hand
Ruby needs to learn, life is extremely complicated. There is no "right" decision, only what you consider the best decision. And whatever effects that come from it is just something you have to deal with.
Absolutely, especially since she's ultimately someone who grew up idolizing the heroes in fairytales where everything always goes right for them and they figure it out in the end. It's tragic that she's getting this reality check so late, especially when you consider that Ruby, at heart, still is that naive girl who got into Beacon early and doesn't know how to ground herself in reality because she's never had to. And, when came time for natural growth and progression, it was all halted by the trauma she endured during and after Beacon fell, and a mentality of toxic positivity she felt she had to maintain to be of use to anyone around her.
its not a case "of just learning to deal with it" she's young. She's tried her best and these feelings she has are getting stronger. Its more than just deal with it. It's overcome it and conquer it. Telling someone with trauma to just deal with it is not solid advice. Some things can't just be dealt with.
The thing that gets me is Curious COULD'VE had it all, if they just hadn't taken their first and only opportunity to possess Ruby to monolog and dig their claws into her. They could have just offered her some comforting words and promised to 'take care of things' in her place. Give her a better option than drinking the tea and use what emotional leverage they had already built with her. "Oh, my poor, poor little huntress... I know how tired you must be, how broken and hollow everything feels right now... Don't hold back your tears, you needn't veil your hurt. I'm here for you. Every inch of you; imperfect and precious, just as you are. "You can rest now, I've got you. As your friend, I promise I'll never let go. I'll help you fix these old wounds. Make you better. "If you'd just let me... we could switch places for a temporary time. I could take all the pain away, and watch over your friends for you, while you rest. "Come now, little huntress... for once, let someone else save you. Let me guide you home. "You'll feel so much better, once this all has become nothing but a lucid nightmare." Like???
classic villain mistake: MONOLOGUING then again little would still have bitten their tail if they saw ruby in pain which would give neo enough time to kick him away
@@necromage843 As naive as I think Little is / the fact that they represent Ruby's inner child, I think they would've supported it, somewhat skeptical but wanting Ruby to be happy again. Reinstating that wrongful trust Ruby would / has put into CC, which could then ultimately rebound into CC eating Little afterwards / symbolically devouring the last of Ruby's innocence.
But wouldnt that be giving her some form of hope and comfort? I think for Curious Cat to take over a person they need to be just completely broken in the head and hopeless.
Just a shower thought on Weiss’ gravity glyphs, can’t she use it on all the Neo mirror image and the real Neo to ground them just like in Volume 6 chapter 1 when the train went off the rails?
I hope this doesn't end with Ruby ending up choosing to become her Mom. Because that leads down a very dangerous road where the whole series becomes a timeloop and Ruby becomes her own mom, or killing off ruby entirely and replacing her with whatever CRWBY come up with which goes against whole namesake of the show. I just hope RT truly put a massive amount of thought into this arc, because this is has been a decent one so far but this small mini-arc has the potential to ruin the entire show.
Thats spot on we are hoping for a fantastic finish, its gone so good without fail though...It does feel like a let down could happen. They can't afford to mess this up. They brought some serious heat with this volume story wise
They can grant her all the battle expirience of Summer while saving her identity as Ruby. Would be a straight upgrade of her power while not getting rid of her and not making her depression magically dissapear. Maybe make her a few years older and some drip changes as a side effect. Incoming Weiss's "Maturrre"
Bringing her back to Ruby herself would also ruin the whole impact of her mental decay becasue it will all amount to absolutely nothing. Here’s hoping she comes back someone different, but still Ruby in some way.
I'm taking it the lesson she's supposed to learn is to not ride her mothers coat tails. But it looks like what's needed is the ability to deal with Cinder and Salem. Ruby's struggles against Neo and that one isn't even the main enemy.
RT really agot themselves in the foot Literally anywhere they go its a double edged sword. If Ruby comes out the exact same person, it supports all the mistakes she’s made without consequences. If she is different and becomes what people need, then it tells the audience it’s ok to disappear and run away because what you are is worthless.
Even if those mistakes were “bad” I still take them over Ironwood plan. The reason why people think his plan was better because they don’t picture themselves in mantle. If someone going give us a chance to survive even a few minutes longer then get eaten by monsters I’m going to take that risk the other option is being abandoned and eaten by monsters. Either way I’m but one option gives me a chance to live just a bit longer.
@@justynhill4814 Personally, whilst I agree with you about Ironwood's plan being worse than what the heroes did, I DO blame the heroes for Ironwood being pushed to lose his mind in the first place, when they lied to him and went behind his back while getting on their high horse at everyone who did the same thing towards them. They may not have been the only factor in Ironwood snapping, but they still contributed majorly to him going over the edge.
@@ecthox-1mork909- look they went off the books but each one didn’t went behind Ironwood back they made choices that was helping him in the long run well except for Ruby. Ironwood did the same as Ruby lied to the people on what Mantle resources was being used for and only told the people he believed he could trust in on Salem. Ruby and the others are young and as life is thier is no true right answer Ruby wanted to trust Ironwood so she looked at everything from different angles but fear of how he would react and what he would do kept from making her decision but she did made the decision. Yang and Blake took a big risk with Robyn but what they wanted to do was convince her that Ironwood was doing his best for everyone. People don’t want to think what would happen if they didn’t try to talk to Robyn and just arrest her. Like if they arrested her that just add more fire to the people of Mantle or she instructed her team to tell about amity if anything happened to her. Weiss honestly didn’t do anything wrong. I’m not saying what they did didn’t make them right vim saying that they made their own decisions to try to help Ironwood. After what Cinder and Salem did he started to question everything that made him think that Salem was league ahead of him. Nobody is innocent some of their help came with consequences and trust was fractured but Salem and Cinder are definitely the main factor that destroyed Ironwood.
Yeah... I think most of people assumed she used a scythe. On the other hand, it has been established that Ruby made her own weapon after training with Qrow who based his style on the "Grim Reaper". So in the story, nothing really contradicts that Summer had a axe.
So if ruby is little red riding hood, Maria is the grandma, and summer is the woodsman that just leaves me wondering who the big bad wolf is? Or if they will introduce them at all
I have a prediction that zombified-cloned-Ruby's outfits at 0:37 are actually ideas of and/or what Ruby will be wearing when she comes out of the tree. Thoughts?
Okay, I’m sure we can all agree that the second half of Volume 9 can be summed up as “watch Ruby suffer! Watch her get physically and mentally beaten until she has a complete emotional breakdown!” It’s really, *really* difficult to watch.
Oh no! They're actually giving the protagonist some real problems to work through for once?! Can't have that! If it's not all dumbed down to happy-go-lucky stuff for kids, it's just too difficult to watch!
It sometimes is, but I'm mostly having a blast. This season is the best thing that happened with this show since Volume 3. Now RT just needs to NOT throw it off the cliff, like making RWBY forget Jaune or something. And then give some actual develompent to Yang, since she is probably one of the most despisable characther in the show.
What’s your problem? That’s not what I’m saying at all! I’m not saying that the show should be dumbed down, just that it can be hard to watch a character you like in emotional torment!
I more think Jaune will suffer. I think RT have only two options for Jaune:More suffering,trauma or they killing him.I think they traumatising him like young version of RWBY speaking with themselves in Ever After.And how we know how much he hates himself(like his haters) and he becomes even much more broken than before
Juane was throwing Neko (Cat) Neo's ass around. Juane didn't use his semblance and he had a broken rusted sword and a rusted shield still functional. Great improvement to my favorite character. My question is what happened to his Shield Grenades?
I feel torn about Volume 9. For once I feel like RWBY is actually giving us something substatial, but at the same time is meaningless due to how hollow the past 6 volumes have been. Wherever Ruby Rose goes from here I don't think it will ever be enough to redeem this series in my eyes. RT has wasted too much time to get here. Personally, my favorite and least favorite thing in the series is the whole thing with Ruby and Summer. It was a great concept imo but RT waited too long to capitalize of that dynamic. IMO Summer should've died not long before Volume 1 because than Ruby would be old enough to feel the weight of her mother's death and would strengthen her motivations which even in Volume 1 i found shallow. The song Red like Roses 2 made it seem like Summer's death set Ruby down that path, where in the show it seems Ruby would've became a huntress even if Summer lived. I would've loved a Ruby Rose who wanted to be a huntress so no one else would lose what she did. I always felt her natural progression would make her the Grimm Reaper, and I don't mean that poor excuse of one in Volume 6.
Being a hero means realizing that you may never be enough, but regardless you fight like hell to retain your way of life and to protect the ones around you, being a hero isnt about being good enough, nor is it about trying to save everyone, it is about a set of beliefs you would die for.
Volume 9 has been good so far, but I'm genuinely worried that if they push that aesop the wrong way at the end, it could ruin all the headway this volume has made to fixing the previous few volumes' mistakes with the heroes' tautological templar B.S.. Heroes have to make mistakes and live with the consequences too, that's a given, but... "being a hero isnt about being good enough, nor is it about trying to save everyone, it is about a set of beliefs you would die for." Except if you really make more mistakes than successes, inflict more harm than good on the world, and STILL keep doing more of the same past the point where it becomes clear you're not cut out for this just because you believe you're in the right (doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, refusing to learn from your mistakes which harm others), then who are you really serving? The world, or just yourself?
they did jaune dirty. he was winning that fight and literally brought all his years of trauma in a span of 2 seconds to kick his ass out of the fight. if jaune ever gets passed his trauma i swear he could defeat entire teams by himself.
Even if we take into account that the cat was fighting erratically and without much strategy, Jaune not only held off, he fought strategically and overpowered the cat with a broken sword (meaning shorter range). The additional armor benefited him, and that knee to the chest of Neo was a move that Jaune wouldn't have used on Remnant. If he gets back to Remnant with this experience, he will be a powerful hunter indeed
@@raminguseinov1580 he's being ascended because he was "killed" now just like Little he's being ascended so he can be changed most likely that's how he will get his youthful appearance back. When I said meet Ruby I thought that once he was done ascending he would leave the tree with Ruby but she went to a whole new area.
It's called bad writing and backpedaling. BS like that fight where he could have easily won but they pulled the "showing the person you killed to catch you off guard and too scared to do anything" trope. They did that with Ren in volume 6 too, or 7 can't remember. By making Neo turn into Nora so he couldn't attack her. I feel like they recycle tropes in this show a lot.
I wish, but I believe she's actually becoming the Huntsman in Little Red Riding Hood, since they're the one who saves Red from the Big Bad Wolf / cuts her free.
Ya know what... I think I'm gonna leave Flow here since I think it fits at least part of this. Well come and well met, my brave little spark How long you've wandered, burned bright as a star Oh, I have awaited you patiently all this time Past every fate Now sing with me once more, share of your life Far greater than memory, its loss and love words cannot hold Boundless the tale overflows And carries your light out to sea Remember the rain, near and far beloved Each drop a blessing from heavens abovе And how as time flowed on those watеrs became one Streams, rivers and lakes Reaching for the horizon and far beyond They carry onward however changed with each brief reflection, by setting sun By storm's wake 'Til welcomed home to gentle sea Sinking deeper and deeper in calm embrace Loving tide sweep in and bear you down Should you meet a soul rising surface-ways With your unbeating heart, wish them well Deep, dark, far away I have heard your voice, weighed your every choice Now our hands join round the meaning you sought I'll catch your tears, quench your fears with joy 'til you near the shore Where in time, all shall as hope be reborn, ah Hush, love, close your eyes, and in sleep abide As sun's distant light, echoes down to dreams, below Know you will wake, on winds rise again For this journey's end is but one step forward to tomorrow
What are you? Ruby: Daughter of Summer Rose (this is her most basic identity) Ruby's Scythe/Gun will fuse with Summer's Axe/Gun to make a Scythe/Axe/Gun. It grows in the same way Ruby needed to grow. Symbolism. She's getting her own Pneuma if you get that reference.
@@stephonmanny7555 we aren’t talking about a different hair dye, some plastic surgery, or even something like a sex change. We aren’t even talking Dr Who style regeneration. We are talking possible whole person rewrite, memories and all. I consider choosing that as a form of suicide, and except in very specific circumstances you don’t let friends choose that.
@@falcore91 Look at it this way, if it works Ruby does live considering her purpose. Her purpose may not be to be a huntress but to protect her loved ones. If it’s that then she can’t exactly forget them if her purpose is to protect who she holds in her heart.
@@dvontechappel1579 if if if it works. We the audience are pretty darned sure she will still be Ruby when she comes out, even if there is physical change. But if there were a room with two buttons, one with “cool upgrade” and one with “mind erase”, would you let your mentally distressed friend walk into that room?
Did ruby just go back to Volumes 4-6😮 You can see the outfit she had during that time....and I think...her eyes are black now...she's...lost her silver eyes
@@falcore91 Not really. Neo just fluttered Nora's eyes at Ren, and Ren only fell for it because of the idiot ball. The Cat knew exactly what they were doing when they turned into the same beloved friend who Jaune was forced to stab to death once already, with the very same sword that he's currently holding no less, before the Cat then used a construct of the OTHER dead girl whose death scarred Jaune for life just to rub salt in the wound.
All choices were always wrong, you may think it's right because it's right but when you choose your choices your action already have consequences that effects other people. Like, winning and losing. If you win, the other opponent lose and feel bad but if you lose and the opponent win you will feel bad because of it. But that's just my opinion.
there trying to reinforce that yang is the sister since they either remember from seeing comments or are telling viewers that yang is ruby's sister for emotional effects. lmao
A disappointment is what. To herself, aparently. Lmao someone got their testies in a torsion I"m sure, but also this is all happening reaaal fast for ruby. And oi, lookit, Yang is finally acting like a blood sister again. Level up. Home Jaune gets out of all this without being another convenient death
Oh My God. "Despair, the wolf that devours thought, devoured me." Little Red Riding Hood is eaten by the wolf, but saved by the Hunter before she dies.
Everyone wants to be something great. However life is difficult: full of choices, problems, and consequences, but how we learn from those experiences helps shape us who we are. Ruby, her friends, and her family have been through so much throughout this past decade, and I'am looking forward to see the finale of Volume 9 and to experience what the future has in store for our heroes : who that have taught us to keep moving forward no matter how hard it gets and to hold on to hope and change with the times.
Am I the only one disappointed with how WBYJ reacted to Ruby possibly being gone forever? Or more so a lack thereof? It just felt very much like "Oh no... Anyways-", they didn't grieve or really emote...
Ayo, I know the video was mainly about who and what Ruby Rose is/should/and wants to be, but real shit, I was more focused on the fact that my man Jaune was fucking throwing hands and it was actually pretty rad. Also, he just got done dirty as all hell, holy crap
Will everyone please stop coming to this speculation that Ruby will become Summer. It doesn’t help the story since Summer failed to stop Salem and Ruby idolized Summer and already was a young version of her. The whole point of this detour arc is for Ruby to stop trying to be like her heroes(Summer) and be herself
I think Ruby should stick to being herself & grow her character instead of eliminating herself & hoping to be someone else. To be honest the last Chapter where Ruby was…(Mentality & Physically) Abused to the point where she see’s little get crushed dead by Neo right in front of her, I thought She was gonna have a heavy Flashback of something or a heavy thought that the ones that Love Her the most only want to help her even if they die in the process or something like that then she slowly picks up little & then Ruby, Full of Rage, Anger, & Sadness. Basically saying she’s had enough & achieve’s this Dark Ruby Transformation or something as it even Scares Neo & the others. Except the Cat. As he grins saying “Interesting” or anything of that as Ruby then Goes Straight for Neo & the Other guy. To which they keep trying to evade Her. & Ruby ends up getting A hold of Neo throwing her back into the Chair as she looks Ruby in the eyes in shock & all of a sudden the cat shoots out his giant beam towards Ruby & Knocks her back towards the wall. Then the cat starts to transform & Charge at Neo & then say his stuff then take over her & flys away. Then that’s when Ruby Starts to have an absolute breakdown which then loses the transformation. Which cause all Blake, Yang, Jaune, Weiss & the Raindeer all comfront around her trying to Tell her that is Ok but she to deep into the emotions maybe & then they have Leave The place off somewhere. I’m Sorry 😅😅 Im not To much remembering the whole Ruby lore & stuff, Forgive me if this sounds weird or so out of place. I’m kinda used to coming up with stuff like this. But hey I like Chapter 8 of this & im interested to see how all of this will end.
If there's nothing you could've done, then why do you torment yourself? No one has to shoulder this heavy burden alone, Ruby. YOU don't have to carry it alone. It's YOUR life, YOUR choice, no one else's.
At this point she have no choice. I agree that there is no point in shouldering fate of the world alone,but she is not alone. She was never alone to begin with. She at this point has no right to die or become someone else or whatnot.
What… are you?
(Enters the Matrix)
An idiot sandwich
A human
He's beginning to believe
Phar the grim shapeshifter is now ofisalyoly canon
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Ruby suddenly wakes up on some Wagon being move seeing her hands all tied.
Then the guy in front of her said "Hey you, You're finally Awake"
did she get transported prob back in time in someone else's perspective?
Hope she likes vanishing sweet rolls and arrows in knees.
@@ilovebook95 It's a Skyrim reference.
"You were trying to cross the border right?"
“Walked right into that Imperial ambush. Same as us, and that thief over there.”
Ruby is having an identity crisis while Neo committing identity theft since the beginning, ah the symbolism.
Is this a nord vpn ad?
But isn't Neo also having an identity crisis? That's why the Cat took Neo over.
Ruby: You took everything from me.
Neo disguised as her: NUH UH!
@@Hisnitch
Not a crisis, she's experiencing identity theft
@@twinodoomShe literally just came to the conclusion that she has nothing else to live for and nothing else to do and sinks into a catonic state. And it's explicitly stated that the Cat can only take over people that are experience absolute stress of their idenity to the point of being mindbroken. How does that *not* qualify as a crisis?
Bro, can we talk about how effectively this damn cat is weaponizing Jaune's trauma. Penny was more than enough but then u have it so Phyrra stabs him, godamn that's brutal
Also, is this how RBY are gonna find out about what happened to Penny?
Because Ruby just game-ended herself WITHOUT that bombshell
I can never understand how a villain can take on the appearance if an ally right in front of a hero and the hero hesitates. It's fucking retarded, you know it ain't the dead bitch, stab her ass.
@Matthew Mccoyd I'm sure Weiss has told them by now
@@matthewmccoyd2578 They already know about what really happened to Penny. Jaune told it to them en route to the Ponderstorm
@@maiseree1511 Except the part where HE was the one who killed her
I really love the music score when it switches between the external fight sequence to Ruby’s inner turmoil with trying to find herself again. Makes the scene more intense.
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Weiss fulfilled the prophecy of Jaune being burned, just like Joan of Arc.
Good catch.Also explains why he surrounded by fire in the intro.
Oof, I forgot about that…😣
@@stephonmanny7555 Eso es algo bueno? :0 recién me di cuenta
Indirectly and prob not intentionally, she's also fulfilling what Obi-Wan did to Anakin during their battle on Mustafar.
@@miguelclaros1212 Jaune cae del árbol con su escudo en llamas y en ese instante aparece el mismo humo que fuma el herbolario. Quizás pase por la misma reflexión que tuvieron las chicas y acepte quien es.
So that axe belonged to Summer before. Does that mean Ruby’s new weapon will be a combination of her mom’s axe and Crescent Rose? That blacksmith is giving the Middle Earth Elven blacksmiths a run for their money.
I hope neither, I hope she will learn from her mom and evolve her own way. I am a bit tired of Ruby following into the steps of others, she needs to become herself.
I think if summer’s weapon is available then summer is def dead, I was holding out hope but .-.
dwarven dad: Elven blacksmith that’s just a elf who can engrave stuff and knows of much as a novice blacksmith, you go to the dwarfs for good quality
Bingo!
From the looks of it it has yet to be Summer’s weapon. Ruby takes it and becomes Summer, then time travels back to become Summer Rose in the past.
Its finally happened, Jaune is actually competent at fighting now.
And get more PTSM
He’s been competent. His last opponent was cinder (a maiden).
@@martinhill9561 exactly
Jaune has been competent since Volume 4/5
Identity crisis is one hell of a drug
That's why you shouldn't normalize it and actually get people real help
@@Rustcat666 facts
Yyyyyyup.
It's the good shit
It's just me but remembering that Ruby is based on the story of Little Red Riding Hood, an innocent girl, something ironic is that Ruby wants to be a Hunter... but something that was never noticed is that there is a character in the story that never appeared and it is "The Hunter" who saves Little Red Hood from the wolf's stomach using an axe... And taking that Ruby will become the Hunter saving herself from the jaws of depression
i always thought port was 'the huntsmen' with his blunderbuss axe but this makes it a nice misdirect
The Hunter was Summer since it's her axe, but Summer wasn't there to save Ruby on account of being dead. So Ruby has to become the new Hunter and take her mother's place.
@@ryubimaru Not quite. Port was loosely based on "Peter and the Wolf," a Russian story/musical piece about a young boy going out to hunt a wolf alongside his animal companions.
…holy shit. 🤯
She’s gonna have a Wreck-It Ralph moment. “There’s no one I’d rather be, than me.”
She's one in a krillion
Maybe she’ll have her Fifth Gear moment?
Sure hope Jaune gets one.
whatever Ruby chooses, I'm praying hoping she'll come out of this with her memories intact, when she has made the choice that is.
She better just be choosing a new outfit
I’m hoping she doesn’t get rid of Crescent Rose because that’s the series iconic weapon. I’m also hoping she doesn’t turn into her own mother because that would be both weird and leave even more questions
@@SuperBuckg same.
@@TheToaprimezilla I'm sure she won't, and I doubt she'll turn into her mom, cause that'd be too weird, cause I have a feeling that the axe won't be an ordinary weapon, something that contains her mother's spirit the second she touches it, and that'd be heartfelt reunion, and the fact that Summer will be the one to save Ruby, to remind her of who she is, and what she is, and what's really important.
@@pauljordan0203 that sounds cool and I’m hoping for that. Ruby went through a journey this volume. She can’t change by becoming somebody else. She has to change the person she currently is
The contrast of the physical fight between Curious-Neo and JWBY and the internal conflict Ruby is having of what she wants to be...was well done. Marvelous scene.
YES JWBY!!!!
Far from well. The choreography isn't the best, amd while you can say it's an "impactful scene", it doesn't really flow too well. Parts of it looks neat, but it doesn't feel too exceptional or good
Bro I didn't even think of it that way. That's some master craftsman stuff
Lol, Jew Bee
Im calling it now:
That blacksmith is alex she got reincarnated into someone that now guides people
Thought the same thing
That's what I thought too!
Same thought. They both have the same ribbon too.
I know some one thinks Alex is actually little
Disculpen mi ignorancia, pero..por que? 😅
I really can't hate the cat just because he's Robbie Daymond.
If you Played Persona 5 you’ll love him even more… More so, it is said that he voiced Dubbed Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star..
@IcyFir 3902 That's how I discovered him lmao. Akechi is also my favorite because Robbie did a damn good job voicing him
Mans just to good. Happy Chaos from Guilty Gear, Chao from HI-FI Rush, im pretty sure he VA'd that Swordsmith in Demon Slayer who makes Tanjiro's weapon.
I have a theory, that she's going to talk to her mother, or at least a memory of her left in the weapon, who will give her closure and push her to be herself.
Aw man I bet that’ll happen and we’ll all cry.
Neo turns into Nora against Ren? Ren's stunned, then reduced to tears.
Neo turns into Oscar against Ruby? Ruby panicking and whimpering, later killing Oscar pushes her over the edge.
Neo turns into Penny against Jaune? 20 years later, it's still enough to leave him stunlocked and in despair
...
Neo sends zombie Rubys after Yang after Ruby killed herself? zero hesitation, yang punches them
guess CC should've made Blake clones huh
Yang usually reacts with rage and physical blows though, especially compared to Ruby and Ren, who are typically on the other end of the emotional spectrum. Their anger is often more layered with tears, conflicting emotions, and as you mentioned, hesitance.
With Yang, I'm not surprised she punched the crap out of the Ruby zombies because A. That's how she responds to most forms of mockery or taunts, such as in the fight with Mercury B. They don't look anything like the real Ruby. Curious isn't putting up an acting performance, they're making the zombies off-color and with very distorted expressions. Ren's hesitation with the Nora copy was probably in part because of the fact that the fake actually looked like her and made him double-take C. Ruby was caught up in a battle with all of her trauma. She wasn't thinking or reacting efficiently even as she acknowledged none of the copies were real as she was getting jumped by her dead friends D. Yang's first reaction was to rip the branches off of Ruby's wood 'cocoon'. She acts before she thinks, 95% of the time.
Correction: those are twisted mockeries of Ruby. Of course Yang isn't gonna tolerate these insults to her sister.
@@MrAuthor3DS Exactly my thoughts. If CC had used Blake as suggested, but altered them as badly as they had Ruby, Yang would've still had E rated hands.
@@MrAuthor3DS Insults? You know what else would be an insult? The fact that Neo turns into all of these other characters *right in front of them.* Neo might as well be pasting a mask on in front of their very eyes, but the image alone leaves them *shattered.*
Not to mention that after the sister is dead, seeing these corrupted versions of herself brought up directly as a possibility when talking about how she might not be her should, if anything, hit harder.
*crossed fingers* Don't turn Ruby into Summer. Don't ruin this whole build up of her being in a really bad mental state, growing up with unrealistic expectations of herself, run right back around into being the overly optimistic speech dispenser.
Please. Don't ruin all this progress and back pedal.
If so then it's ruby summer that's now into tai or crow
They're going to turn ruby into summer, calling it right now
I don’t think it’s back peddling. If she doesn’t make a choice and just stays herself that’d be back peddling. She needs to become someone else and she needs to remember that she was okay as yourself in the long run
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 But, my ultimate point is - Summer Rose isn't Ruby. Ruby can't be her mother and fill those same shoes perfectly.
That's what brought Ruby to the tree in the first place. Made her drink the tea from the start. Putting a mantle over her own emotional and mental health, forcing herself to stay positive for everyone else's sake, bottling everything up until she broke.
It's not healthy to keep idolizing Summer the way Ruby has. Seeing the fable before the person and the flaws, trying to be perfect because the deepest understanding of her late mother she has, is that she was perfect. Everyone loved Summer. No one could say anything bad about her. And how could they to her surviving daughter?
So how could Ruby not want to be her? Be the perfect hero that saves the day?
Ruby grew up shielded not just from physical harm, but from reality and never grew up with any baseline understanding of just how hopeless life could be at times. Her uncle embellished his every adventure, her sister read her stories every night before bed, and Tai was nothing short of encouraging. She even became a huntress because she wanted to be that hero from the story books.
And that's such a disparaging leap from what it actually means to be a huntress, especially right now. With the world crumbling down around all four kingdoms.
Ruby never had a point where someone sat her down and explained to her the harsh truths of life. And the moments where those truths reared their ugly heads?
Ruby could only handle things how she'd been reared to : endure, smile, and do your best.
And that, imo, can't be how Ruby remains. That version of Ruby is deeply rooted in toxic positivity and a lack of experience.
But she can't end up as Summer either. She shouldn't.
There has been a Summer Rose, a sweet, capable huntress who left her mark on her heart she ever touched.
And not that those traits are inherently bad, because they aren't.
But turning Ruby into an echo of Summer would just reaffirm that toxic positivity.
'You, Ruby Rose, got to endure and be EXACTLY who you wanted to be, by running yourself into the ground so far, you forgot which way was up and which way was down. You burned yourself out so deeply you decided you didn't want to live anymore. So here's your prize. You get to be your idol.'
It makes what Ruby did, something that is rewarded by the universe. And a reward so grand, it'll just magically undo her depression, and her fears, and her doubts...
That's wrong. That is unequivocally inane.
Because that's tossing everything Ruby went through and how it hurt her - out the window, just to 'reboot' her into something more pleasant.
You erase the tea scene. You erase her outburst. You kill every inch of depth to Ruby Rose by making her someone that, at this point, she should never be able to be.
She can take inspiration from her mother while being herself at the same time.
2:05 "If I had a coin every time Jaune fell, I would have like 3 coins. Which doesnt seem like a lot but its weird its happened that many times"
This makes me think yet again about what Ambrosius said when Penny was converted into an organic form: "There will be consequences".
what is the consequence?
@@sagezemage8834 Maybe that she became drastically weaker than when she was an android. When she was a fully robotic Winter maiden she kicked the dogshit out of Cinder and Emerald despite having a 2:1 disadvantage, but after becoming human she was defeated by Cinder despite having a 3:1 advantage from fighting alongside team RWBY and Jaune against just Cinder and Neo.
@@sagezemage8834 She lost her android-like reflexes and senses, caving into emotions like fear and excess compassion in a situation where Cinder was taking advantage of that. If Penny fought at full intensity like she did the first time against Cinder because she had nothing to physically hold her back, Cinder would've been sent straight into the Ever After.
This has genuinely been one of the best moments in Rwby.
The Curious Cat had Neo turn into Penny, knowing Jaune would hesitate, so could use a facsimile of Pyrrha to strike him from behind.
Total dick move by the Curious Cat.
Damn, I hate it when people fall for that trick. I'm like "Come on that's not your friend! You just saw them transform into them!"
But in this case he knows. It's his trauma making him hesitate. He's just broken from waiting and never healing from killing Penny. With Pyrrha, it sealed the tactical advantage. Two people who have died on his watch. Not stopping Pyrrha from fighting Cinder and actually dealing the blow to take Penny's short lived human life.
Bcoz their image launches him into the abyss of memories,like just seeing penny might invoked the memory of him killing her,this distracts jaune and that actually gave time for curious neo to strike jaune,although using pyrrha to further invoke his mental pain says the curious cat being sadistic
Just because you know it's fake doesn't mean your body won't instinctively react by hesitating due to trauma. It's less falling for it but more involuntary or knee-jerk reactions.
that's the thing with PTSD you do not get to decide what or when something will set you off and how bad the initial response will be. I froze up from fireworks before when I first got home then I remembered I'm home and its New years not explosions but in a fight that second to remember that could cause you to loose the upper hand
did the Pyrrha clone do damage on Jaune? I thought it was supposed to be illusion?
Well this is an interesting trip, also those Ruby zombies look sick.
Rwby is too good at horror wth 😂😂
@@msk-qp6fn I know right?
@@msk-qp6fn idk about that. But it's deffo cool
@@msk-qp6fn Imagine RWBY went with full on horror in one episode or a spin-off show with it's filled with all horror.
If they bite you, you turn into Ruby as well
Ruby needs to learn, life is extremely complicated. There is no "right" decision, only what you consider the best decision. And whatever effects that come from it is just something you have to deal with.
Absolutely, especially since she's ultimately someone who grew up idolizing the heroes in fairytales where everything always goes right for them and they figure it out in the end.
It's tragic that she's getting this reality check so late, especially when you consider that Ruby, at heart, still is that naive girl who got into Beacon early and doesn't know how to ground herself in reality because she's never had to. And, when came time for natural growth and progression, it was all halted by the trauma she endured during and after Beacon fell, and a mentality of toxic positivity she felt she had to maintain to be of use to anyone around her.
Decisions you can live with - and decisions you can't. That's all there is.
Yes, and clearly,she isnt learning.
its not a case "of just learning to deal with it" she's young. She's tried her best and these feelings she has are getting stronger. Its more than just deal with it. It's overcome it and conquer it. Telling someone with trauma to just deal with it is not solid advice. Some things can't just be dealt with.
@@RandomLifeTips101 Normally overcoming and conquering it I consider dealing with it
The thing that gets me is Curious COULD'VE had it all, if they just hadn't taken their first and only opportunity to possess Ruby to monolog and dig their claws into her. They could have just offered her some comforting words and promised to 'take care of things' in her place. Give her a better option than drinking the tea and use what emotional leverage they had already built with her.
"Oh, my poor, poor little huntress... I know how tired you must be, how broken and hollow everything feels right now... Don't hold back your tears, you needn't veil your hurt. I'm here for you. Every inch of you; imperfect and precious, just as you are.
"You can rest now, I've got you. As your friend, I promise I'll never let go. I'll help you fix these old wounds. Make you better.
"If you'd just let me... we could switch places for a temporary time. I could take all the pain away, and watch over your friends for you, while you rest.
"Come now, little huntress... for once, let someone else save you. Let me guide you home.
"You'll feel so much better, once this all has become nothing but a lucid nightmare."
Like???
classic villain mistake: MONOLOGUING
then again little would still have bitten their tail if they saw ruby in pain which would give neo enough time to kick him away
@@necromage843 As naive as I think Little is / the fact that they represent Ruby's inner child, I think they would've supported it, somewhat skeptical but wanting Ruby to be happy again.
Reinstating that wrongful trust Ruby would / has put into CC, which could then ultimately rebound into CC eating Little afterwards / symbolically devouring the last of Ruby's innocence.
My best bet? The Curious Cat got impatient with playing niceties.
Why are u expecting good writing out of RWBY
But wouldnt that be giving her some form of hope and comfort? I think for Curious Cat to take over a person they need to be just completely broken in the head and hopeless.
Just a shower thought on Weiss’ gravity glyphs, can’t she use it on all the Neo mirror image and the real Neo to ground them just like in Volume 6 chapter 1 when the train went off the rails?
Potentially, if the Cat isn't smart enough to be misdirecting them, which seems to be the case here, they could catch the real Neo.
They better not kill of Jaune. I swear to God
Can I just saying having watched Jaune evolve over time, he is kicking so much ass before seeing penny’s face again.
I don't think that's it. It just Cat have zero creativity over Neo's semblance and doesn't know how to fight properly
I hope this doesn't end with Ruby ending up choosing to become her Mom. Because that leads down a very dangerous road where the whole series becomes a timeloop and Ruby becomes her own mom, or killing off ruby entirely and replacing her with whatever CRWBY come up with which goes against whole namesake of the show. I just hope RT truly put a massive amount of thought into this arc, because this is has been a decent one so far but this small mini-arc has the potential to ruin the entire show.
Jaune becomes Taiyang. Entire. Team.
Thats spot on we are hoping for a fantastic finish, its gone so good without fail though...It does feel like a let down could happen. They can't afford to mess this up. They brought some serious heat with this volume story wise
They can grant her all the battle expirience of Summer while saving her identity as Ruby. Would be a straight upgrade of her power while not getting rid of her and not making her depression magically dissapear. Maybe make her a few years older and some drip changes as a side effect.
Incoming Weiss's "Maturrre"
I think they should just fuse into a sorta mix between Summer and Ruby
Bringing her back to Ruby herself would also ruin the whole impact of her mental decay becasue it will all amount to absolutely nothing. Here’s hoping she comes back someone different, but still Ruby in some way.
A theory says she is the Lumberjack from Red Riding Hood. She's going to save humanity from "the big bad wolf"
Jaune no diffs cat. Only for cat to play emotional damage. A bitch move I feel he's about to regret.
I'm taking it the lesson she's supposed to learn is to not ride her mothers coat tails. But it looks like what's needed is the ability to deal with Cinder and Salem. Ruby's struggles against Neo and that one isn't even the main enemy.
RT really agot themselves in the foot
Literally anywhere they go its a double edged sword.
If Ruby comes out the exact same person, it supports all the mistakes she’s made without consequences.
If she is different and becomes what people need, then it tells the audience it’s ok to disappear and run away because what you are is worthless.
Even if those mistakes were “bad” I still take them over Ironwood plan. The reason why people think his plan was better because they don’t picture themselves in mantle. If someone going give us a chance to survive even a few minutes longer then get eaten by monsters I’m going to take that risk the other option is being abandoned and eaten by monsters. Either way I’m but one option gives me a chance to live just a bit longer.
@@justynhill4814 Personally, whilst I agree with you about Ironwood's plan being worse than what the heroes did, I DO blame the heroes for Ironwood being pushed to lose his mind in the first place, when they lied to him and went behind his back while getting on their high horse at everyone who did the same thing towards them. They may not have been the only factor in Ironwood snapping, but they still contributed majorly to him going over the edge.
@@ecthox-1mork909- look they went off the books but each one didn’t went behind Ironwood back they made choices that was helping him in the long run well except for Ruby. Ironwood did the same as Ruby lied to the people on what Mantle resources was being used for and only told the people he believed he could trust in on Salem. Ruby and the others are young and as life is thier is no true right answer Ruby wanted to trust Ironwood so she looked at everything from different angles but fear of how he would react and what he would do kept from making her decision but she did made the decision. Yang and Blake took a big risk with Robyn but what they wanted to do was convince her that Ironwood was doing his best for everyone. People don’t want to think what would happen if they didn’t try to talk to Robyn and just arrest her. Like if they arrested her that just add more fire to the people of Mantle or she instructed her team to tell about amity if anything happened to her. Weiss honestly didn’t do anything wrong. I’m not saying what they did didn’t make them right vim saying that they made their own decisions to try to help Ironwood. After what Cinder and Salem did he started to question everything that made him think that Salem was league ahead of him. Nobody is innocent some of their help came with consequences and trust was fractured but Salem and Cinder are definitely the main factor that destroyed Ironwood.
So, Summer used an axe. It's kinda uncommon, I must say.
Seems to be somewhat based on the lumberjack
@@nevermore7285 The Woodsman to Ruby's Little Red Riding Hood.
Yeah... I think most of people assumed she used a scythe. On the other hand, it has been established that Ruby made her own weapon after training with Qrow who based his style on the "Grim Reaper". So in the story, nothing really contradicts that Summer had a axe.
@@MMTrigger I have been loving the fact that Summer's revealed to be the hunter in little red riding hood, not the grandmother.
@@simonmorel339 I honestly thought she was probably an archer kind of user. Like a ranger.
Ruby:maybe I’ve done more harm then good.
Me after watching 10 different ironwood videos: Maybe?
So if ruby is little red riding hood, Maria is the grandma, and summer is the woodsman that just leaves me wondering who the big bad wolf is? Or if they will introduce them at all
this episode told me that even from the beginning of this story Ruby by herself was never ok, she only just reached the breaking point
@Peter the king I see what you did their lol 😆
@Peter the king Are you kitten me? that pun was purrfect!
@@nyes4596 That pun was just paw-ful!
@@necromage843 I'm sorry, I didn't meown to offend you.
@@nyes4596 you are paw-doned
I'm not emotionally prepared for the finale next week 😭
I'll prepare you :)
I am.
OH THAT AXE IS TOTALLY TURNING INTO A SCYTHE!
Not necessarily, Ruby based her weapon off Qrow’s, not Summer’s. It could be an axe that forms into a rifle though, or a shield maybe.
when red like roses plays at 2:32 hits hard
Can we all take a minute to appreciate how good Jaune fights despite how terrible the condition of his weapons and armor are?
Looks like Ruby getting a new axe weapon, which is related to her red riding hood fairy tale. Gonna miss the scythe.
Scythe axe gun
What….are you?
A child, Ruby is still just a kid 😢
I have a prediction that zombified-cloned-Ruby's outfits at 0:37 are actually ideas of and/or what Ruby will be wearing when she comes out of the tree. Thoughts?
Babe they just recoloured her current model…
1:59 Smug kitten face.
Okay, I’m sure we can all agree that the second half of Volume 9 can be summed up as “watch Ruby suffer! Watch her get physically and mentally beaten until she has a complete emotional breakdown!”
It’s really, *really* difficult to watch.
Child abuse🔥
Oh no! They're actually giving the protagonist some real problems to work through for once?! Can't have that! If it's not all dumbed down to happy-go-lucky stuff for kids, it's just too difficult to watch!
It sometimes is, but I'm mostly having a blast. This season is the best thing that happened with this show since Volume 3. Now RT just needs to NOT throw it off the cliff, like making RWBY forget Jaune or something. And then give some actual develompent to Yang, since she is probably one of the most despisable characther in the show.
What’s your problem? That’s not what I’m saying at all!
I’m not saying that the show should be dumbed down, just that it can be hard to watch a character you like in emotional torment!
I more think Jaune will suffer. I think RT have only two options for Jaune:More suffering,trauma or they killing him.I think they traumatising him like young version of RWBY speaking with themselves in Ever After.And how we know how much he hates himself(like his haters) and he becomes even much more broken than before
I just LOVE the score in the Ruby scene
Juane was throwing Neko (Cat) Neo's ass around. Juane didn't use his semblance and he had a broken rusted sword and a rusted shield still functional. Great improvement to my favorite character. My question is what happened to his Shield Grenades?
Lost in vol 8
Shield grenades were probably Atlas property
Also his semblance can’t boost himself if I recall so what exactly could he do?
I feel torn about Volume 9. For once I feel like RWBY is actually giving us something substatial, but at the same time is meaningless due to how hollow the past 6 volumes have been. Wherever Ruby Rose goes from here I don't think it will ever be enough to redeem this series in my eyes. RT has wasted too much time to get here.
Personally, my favorite and least favorite thing in the series is the whole thing with Ruby and Summer. It was a great concept imo but RT waited too long to capitalize of that dynamic. IMO Summer should've died not long before Volume 1 because than Ruby would be old enough to feel the weight of her mother's death and would strengthen her motivations which even in Volume 1 i found shallow. The song Red like Roses 2 made it seem like Summer's death set Ruby down that path, where in the show it seems Ruby would've became a huntress even if Summer lived. I would've loved a Ruby Rose who wanted to be a huntress so no one else would lose what she did. I always felt her natural progression would make her the Grimm Reaper, and I don't mean that poor excuse of one in Volume 6.
Being a hero means realizing that you may never be enough, but regardless you fight like hell to retain your way of life and to protect the ones around you, being a hero isnt about being good enough, nor is it about trying to save everyone, it is about a set of beliefs you would die for.
Well said!
Exactly
Volume 9 has been good so far, but I'm genuinely worried that if they push that aesop the wrong way at the end, it could ruin all the headway this volume has made to fixing the previous few volumes' mistakes with the heroes' tautological templar B.S..
Heroes have to make mistakes and live with the consequences too, that's a given, but... "being a hero isnt about being good enough, nor is it about trying to save everyone, it is about a set of beliefs you would die for." Except if you really make more mistakes than successes, inflict more harm than good on the world, and STILL keep doing more of the same past the point where it becomes clear you're not cut out for this just because you believe you're in the right (doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, refusing to learn from your mistakes which harm others), then who are you really serving? The world, or just yourself?
When possessed Neo summoned those zombie looking Rubys, was I the only one hearing Thriller in my head and expected them to dance?😂
they did jaune dirty. he was winning that fight and literally brought all his years of trauma in a span of 2 seconds to kick his ass out of the fight. if jaune ever gets passed his trauma i swear he could defeat entire teams by himself.
Even if we take into account that the cat was fighting erratically and without much strategy, Jaune not only held off, he fought strategically and overpowered the cat with a broken sword (meaning shorter range).
The additional armor benefited him, and that knee to the chest of Neo was a move that Jaune wouldn't have used on Remnant.
If he gets back to Remnant with this experience, he will be a powerful hunter indeed
I guess he is going to be ascended to the tree so he can meet up with Ruby.
@@Jassiij27 I more sure he only got more extra trauma and nothing more
@@raminguseinov1580 he's being ascended because he was "killed" now just like Little he's being ascended so he can be changed most likely that's how he will get his youthful appearance back. When I said meet Ruby I thought that once he was done ascending he would leave the tree with Ruby but she went to a whole new area.
It's called bad writing and backpedaling. BS like that fight where he could have easily won but they pulled the "showing the person you killed to catch you off guard and too scared to do anything" trope. They did that with Ren in volume 6 too, or 7 can't remember. By making Neo turn into Nora so he couldn't attack her. I feel like they recycle tropes in this show a lot.
Is ruby becoming the queen of hearts?
I wish, but I believe she's actually becoming the Huntsman in Little Red Riding Hood, since they're the one who saves Red from the Big Bad Wolf / cuts her free.
Lol what if Neon Cat becomes the Queen of Hearts?
Ya know what... I think I'm gonna leave Flow here since I think it fits at least part of this.
Well come and well met, my brave little spark
How long you've wandered, burned bright as a star
Oh, I have awaited you patiently all this time
Past every fate
Now sing with me once more, share of your life
Far greater than memory, its loss and love words cannot hold
Boundless the tale overflows
And carries your light out to sea
Remember the rain, near and far beloved
Each drop a blessing from heavens abovе
And how as time flowed on those watеrs became one
Streams, rivers and lakes
Reaching for the horizon and far beyond
They carry onward however changed with each brief reflection, by setting sun
By storm's wake
'Til welcomed home to gentle sea
Sinking deeper and deeper in calm embrace
Loving tide sweep in and bear you down
Should you meet a soul rising surface-ways
With your unbeating heart, wish them well
Deep, dark, far away I have heard your voice, weighed your every choice
Now our hands join round the meaning you sought
I'll catch your tears, quench your fears with joy 'til you near the shore
Where in time, all shall as hope be reborn, ah
Hush, love, close your eyes, and in sleep abide
As sun's distant light, echoes down to dreams, below
Know you will wake, on winds rise again
For this journey's end is but one step forward to tomorrow
Is Flow this volume or last volume? I still have listened to none of Vol8's soundtrack, so I wouldn't really know.
It’s from final Fantasy 14 ^^
@@colt1903 It's a Final Fantasy XIV track from Endwalker. And both versions of Flow (Flow and Flow Together) hit like Truck-kun.
What are you?
Ruby: Daughter of Summer Rose (this is her most basic identity)
Ruby's Scythe/Gun will fuse with Summer's Axe/Gun to make a Scythe/Axe/Gun. It grows in the same way Ruby needed to grow. Symbolism.
She's getting her own Pneuma if you get that reference.
Anyone else really upset that the team didn’t pull her out the moment they realized it might be possible?
They’re letting Ruby choose who she wants to be. Also we don’t know what happens if you pull someone out mid change.
Yup i was already frustrated when they all stood there as ruby was lying on the floor
@@stephonmanny7555 we aren’t talking about a different hair dye, some plastic surgery, or even something like a sex change. We aren’t even talking Dr Who style regeneration. We are talking possible whole person rewrite, memories and all. I consider choosing that as a form of suicide, and except in very specific circumstances you don’t let friends choose that.
@@falcore91 Look at it this way, if it works Ruby does live considering her purpose. Her purpose may not be to be a huntress but to protect her loved ones. If it’s that then she can’t exactly forget them if her purpose is to protect who she holds in her heart.
@@dvontechappel1579 if if if it works. We the audience are pretty darned sure she will still be Ruby when she comes out, even if there is physical change. But if there were a room with two buttons, one with “cool upgrade” and one with “mind erase”, would you let your mentally distressed friend walk into that room?
I can just imagine you Sneaking In roster teeth Studio And taking some of the footage
I’m sure their rwby twt intern doesn’t mind
Red like roses playing a little in the background at 2:32 I’m waiting for a red like roses part 3
Did ruby just go back to Volumes 4-6😮
You can see the outfit she had during that time....and I think...her eyes are black now...she's...lost her silver eyes
1:50-1:55 Okay, that was just a whole new level of scummy.
Neo did basically the same thing to Ren in V7.
RT favourite thing in RWBY:traumatising mentally Jaune.Nothing new.
@@falcore91 Not really. Neo just fluttered Nora's eyes at Ren, and Ren only fell for it because of the idiot ball. The Cat knew exactly what they were doing when they turned into the same beloved friend who Jaune was forced to stab to death once already, with the very same sword that he's currently holding no less, before the Cat then used a construct of the OTHER dead girl whose death scarred Jaune for life just to rub salt in the wound.
All choices were always wrong, you may think it's right because it's right but when you choose your choices your action already have consequences that effects other people. Like, winning and losing. If you win, the other opponent lose and feel bad but if you lose and the opponent win you will feel bad because of it. But that's just my opinion.
Choices have consequences.
The cat has to be Relic of Choice
@@godoffriendship943 The relic is still in Beacon/Vault. Curious Cat is just...too curious
More like every decision you make is going to end up being bad for someone. That fact alone does not always make all choices wrong however.
@@msk-qp6fn have you ever thought of a reward as a consequence?
the beginning of the ep was disturbing none of them gave 0 reaction about what happened to ruby and yangs smiles hugging john like what the fuck????
Obviously ignoring some clear context but not suprised
@@Cloud-dt6xbnot ignoring. it was disturbing yang did not say or do anything about ruby tell they fund her in wood.
Idk why Yang is trying to be a sister now, she already done fucked it all up this whole volume.
I know right?
No she didn't you moron.
Yang was always a good sister, Are you a idiot?
there trying to reinforce that yang is the sister since they either remember from seeing comments or are telling viewers that yang is ruby's sister for emotional effects. lmao
Well,bumblbee finally a thing(don't care), now they need Yang to do something over than flirting with Blake.
My theory is the rabbit is alyxx she want to fix her mistake including helping jaune
I cannot wait to see how ruby comes out it in the fianle I hope she has a white hood tbh it be a great tribute to summer
Red and green ♥️♥️♥️ 💚💚💚💚 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@@arkdragon222 Red White and Green ❤️🤍💚
@@jordanrichardson2367 can't wait for italian ruby with a big pizzaknife in her gands instead of a scythe then
A disappointment is what.
To herself, aparently. Lmao someone got their testies in a torsion I"m sure, but also this is all happening reaaal fast for ruby. And oi, lookit, Yang is finally acting like a blood sister again. Level up. Home Jaune gets out of all this without being another convenient death
You know i never would have expected Summer’s weapon to be an axe
0:40 HOW DARE YOU TOY WITH YANG’S LOVE FOR HER SISTER, YOU WRETCHED FELINE!😡😡😡
Damn, he really hit Jaune with that trauma wombo combo!
Oh My God. "Despair, the wolf that devours thought, devoured me."
Little Red Riding Hood is eaten by the wolf, but saved by the Hunter before she dies.
Everyone wants to be something great. However life is difficult: full of choices, problems, and consequences, but how we learn from those experiences helps shape us who we are. Ruby, her friends, and her family have been through so much throughout this past decade, and I'am looking forward to see the finale of Volume 9 and to experience what the future has in store for our heroes : who that have taught us to keep moving forward no matter how hard it gets and to hold on to hope and change with the times.
Didn't Blake ran out of ammo when fighting the Red Prince pawns?
Yes
Maybe she's just borrowing dust from wesis
@@destarker1340 she never fired a shot after she ran out.
3:11 I'm guessing that once she takes that weapon, The Crescent Rose will either no longer exist or reforge into something entirely new like Rebirth.
Am I the only one disappointed with how WBYJ reacted to Ruby possibly being gone forever? Or more so a lack thereof? It just felt very much like "Oh no... Anyways-", they didn't grieve or really emote...
Meanwhile Jaune gets all the emotional comfort and reassurance
Ruby
Weiss
Blake
Yang
Jaune
Neo
What are you
I'm Batman 🦇
I'm calling it. The blacksmith is ALEX
If thats the weapon rwby is grabbing i wonder how she’ll use it? that weapon doesnt look comfortable to use
Calling it now: she comes back as Titan Witch Ruby...sorry, still thinking about The Owl House finale
That finale ending hit me like a truck 🥹
Oh *NOW* Yang cares about Ruby
The character whom Ruby is talking to, could be related to Frankenstein's monster.
I think it’s Alex
Did Jaune just accended? While being knocked down? Why do I get the feeling he'll make it back before Ruby?
I more sure he only gets as usually more extra trauma.RT loves this.I think he speaks with himself like RWBY
I was fucking right she did go down the path of anakin Skywalker to the darkside
Joke
Fcking hell the last few seconds Jump scared me
Ok but they made me like ruby as a character wtf
To be fair, Ruby has been like this the entire time. We were watching her slowly breakdown through every season. She just never talked about it
@@jordanrichardson2367 She's barely shown signs of it when it should've been the main focus of her character arc
Ayo, I know the video was mainly about who and what Ruby Rose is/should/and wants to be, but real shit, I was more focused on the fact that my man Jaune was fucking throwing hands and it was actually pretty rad. Also, he just got done dirty as all hell, holy crap
Red like roses part 2 hitting different after this episode
0:37 Huh... Well, that's something I never thought I'd see, ever.
0:02 I am reminded of some parts of hungrychad's Flow lyric video...
Will everyone please stop coming to this speculation that Ruby will become Summer. It doesn’t help the story since Summer failed to stop Salem and Ruby idolized Summer and already was a young version of her. The whole point of this detour arc is for Ruby to stop trying to be like her heroes(Summer) and be herself
No.
Let them go crazy with that theory for a week. Watch the chaos unfold.
@@blasiandomo dang you right. Alright.
So I take it what Ruby is going to realize is that even if she changes herself, the problem won't go away?
I think Ruby should stick to being herself & grow her character instead of eliminating herself & hoping to be someone else. To be honest the last Chapter where Ruby was…(Mentality & Physically) Abused to the point where she see’s little get crushed dead by Neo right in front of her, I thought She was gonna have a heavy Flashback of something or a heavy thought that the ones that Love Her the most only want to help her even if they die in the process or something like that then she slowly picks up little & then Ruby, Full of Rage, Anger, & Sadness. Basically saying she’s had enough & achieve’s this Dark Ruby Transformation or something as it even Scares Neo & the others. Except the Cat. As he grins saying “Interesting” or anything of that as Ruby then Goes Straight for Neo & the Other guy. To which they keep trying to evade Her. & Ruby ends up getting A hold of Neo throwing her back into the Chair as she looks Ruby in the eyes in shock & all of a sudden the cat shoots out his giant beam towards Ruby & Knocks her back towards the wall. Then the cat starts to transform & Charge at Neo & then say his stuff then take over her & flys away. Then that’s when Ruby Starts to have an absolute breakdown which then loses the transformation. Which cause all Blake, Yang, Jaune, Weiss & the Raindeer all comfront around her trying to Tell her that is Ok but she to deep into the emotions maybe & then they have Leave The place off somewhere. I’m Sorry 😅😅 Im not To much remembering the whole Ruby lore & stuff, Forgive me if this sounds weird or so out of place. I’m kinda used to coming up with stuff like this. But hey I like Chapter 8 of this & im interested to see how all of this will end.
I hadn't heard the Red Like Roses theme when the blacksmith called her name Ruby Rose.
Red like roses Part 2 is expected to be played during Ruby’s Return and fight agains Neo final form
Is it really? Huh that’ll be nice hearing it again since Volume 1
I heard a theory. And I agree with it. Alyx is the blacksmith. I thought it could be Lewis. But after this, Alyx makes more sense
rusted jaune is at a fighting level now that would make pyrrah proud. cinder rematch when ?
ruby rose not being ruby rose is one reason for rwby fans not to watch rwby anymore.
Though I thought this episode was a little rushed, I do genuinely think Ruby needed this introspection.
Hope they save Her.
If there's nothing you could've done, then why do you torment yourself? No one has to shoulder this heavy burden alone, Ruby. YOU don't have to carry it alone. It's YOUR life, YOUR choice, no one else's.
At this point she have no choice. I agree that there is no point in shouldering fate of the world alone,but she is not alone. She was never alone to begin with. She at this point has no right to die or become someone else or whatnot.
Huh... not sure what it is but I very much like the fight between them and the cat.