@@mrnemo204 the real question is if brain development can keep up, it's probably at least somewhat limited by time itself, if you only experience 8 years of your life, but you're physically 16, you only have the wisdom and experience of an 8 year old. the only reason they are even effective in combat is because they're trained as early as possible and as intensely as possible, making up for the lack of time, but at the cost of ignoring most basic life skills.
The clones are artificially aged, programmed enslaved child soldiers and many Jedi had no problem leading them to their deaths. We do see Anakin, Yoda, Obi and Ahsoka treating them as human, but there is a sub layer suggesting other Jedi might not do this.
@@Bas-TBand a couple like Bardan Jusic left specifically due to the jedi order not giving the clones a choice to fight or even basic rights. (Admittedly that was in a Legends novel 'Republic Commando')
I lived overseas in East Africa in the 80s. It is obvious you have spent time in these environments. My father gave us the opportunity to live. It has directed my life to make things a little better.
My wife who hasn't seen Rebels instantly reacted to her bringing her son on a very dangerous mission. I explained that it is a family tradition of festering war trauma.
@@earnestbrown6524 bahahahahahahahah. What about the one Droid that taught them how to build lightsabers? I feel like he kinda counts, as he did protect the young ones
Jeeze man, youre a breath of fresh air. Grounded takes on the real life situations portrayed in these fantasy shows. At this point i start to tense up when i hear a youtuber start to talk about anyrhing political, because it seems to be very common to have really.. ungrounded views. But you, are someone I could see myself being a real friend with. Gonna go continue binging your videos now. Even though you talk about 80% fantasy stuff, your takes are so refreshing and balanced when it comes into the real world stuff.
First battle at Geonosis the oldest ones were 9+ years old. At 2x accelerated growth, they'd be physically 18, and perhaps due to education and their behavior chip, might actually act 18 or older - the discipline and training parts, for sure.
Very well said. My 5 and 7 seems confused in watching this episode. Wars to them is more like between Cybertron and Deception. It's a good and light way to have them start thinking more seriously.
Wow, I did not expect the world history and ethics lesson at the end. Great stuff. Do you have more videos explaining stuff like that on a different channel? I'd like and sub fast if there is.
I want to preface this by saying that there isn't anything factually wrong with what you actually say from 13:15 , the problem is that a lot of people will take how you use the example of Palestine as confirmation of Israeli propaganda. Which concerns me more because you are very much someone people trust to have a clear head about this stuff. I know this is not a video, nor a channel, set up to discuss the (decidedly illegal) occupation of Palestine, so any reference is going to be brief, but I am concerned that you invoke Palestine as an example regarding child soldiering when there are much better examples. I've rewritten myself a half-dozen times over the last 30 minutes and still haven't found a good way to express my reaction to this part, which means I should probably not try too hard. Like, given how thoroughly Israel is targeting Palestinian children--children being shot in the head by highly-trained snipers, Hind Rajab who was murdered in cold blood only after the Israeli military was informed of her location by the medics who were also targeted despite coordinating their movements with the Israeli military, said military bombing the very places they declared "safe zones" when families are crowded in by the thousands--just in the last year, let alone over the many decades of illegal occupation, they don't need any help hating. Btw, the vast majority of Palestinians know that Israel is responsible, not Jewish people. Some Palestinian groups do traffic in antisemitism, but the lack of context you provide falsely suggests that it's a bigger factor than it actually is. P.S. If you're interested in a discussion in a more appropriate setting than the comments section I'd be sincerely glad to oblige. You're clearly someone who is able to hold a civilized, let alone intelligent, conversation about such serious stuff.
In With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa, the writer Eugene Sledge perhaps put it best. While he was writing specifically about his experiences on Peleliu, you could probably apply to any major experience of combat: "To the noncombatants and those on the periphery of the action, the war meant only boredom or occasional excitement, but to those who entered the meat grinder itself the war was a netherworld of horror from which escape seemed less and less likely as the casualties mounted and the fighting dragged on and on. Time had no meaning, life had no meaning. The fierce struggle for survival in the abyss of Peleliu had eroded the veneer of civilization and made savages of us all."
Alan, I've followed you channel for a seemingly endlessly long time now. While this isn't my favorite video you've done, it's the best one yet. Timely, well weitten, and extremely thoughtful. Thank you for being you.
And videos like these are the reasons I follow you! I really like how you put the story in a real-life context very respectfully. I did find that episode unsettling from the point that the seriousness of the situation in Att Achran was a bit sidetracked. But yeah, the meaning was to show the naivety of the children from the shielded planet towards the mess that the rest of the galaxy is.
This is why I really wish this was an hour long, even a child friendly show, I thought it was too rushed. I kind of wish Win could learn what the cost. I’m still not happy with KB augment. I really want to understand her moms reasons for allowing KB to go through her surgery.
Thank you for this. I have been waiting for someone to do a deep dive into the fact that the psycho “General” sent the kids out in front to be killed. You did not disappoint.
Yes, kids can be manipulated into soldiers...yet, they are also quick to identify and relate to acts of kindness. Neel's act of kindness was an automatic response that Hayma noticed immediately. I hope they both work to develop an alliance between the 9 at-planets.
Side note: those child soldiers in Africa get kidnapped during raids on remote villages. That's why they're orphans - their parents were murdered in those raids. Also, only the boys become child soldiers. The fate of the girls is worse.
Another reason kids work well as soldiers is how fast they learn. Younger kids learn stuff faster and start slowing down the older they get. It’s why kids can learn how to talk and speak so quickly. A young kid say around 10 can learn how to fight much faster. They can actually become a fairly well trained and competent soldier much much faster than an adult and pick up specialized skills too. They also have better reflex’s that slow down as they get older it’s why a lot of gamers are younger and stop being able to keep us as they grow older. This makes them very good at using vehicles. Anakin didn’t just win the pod race because he was force sensitive he won because he was able to figure out how to pilot quicker being young instead of needing years of training and because he has faster reflexes than the adult racers. For examples to show how effective child soldiers are please see the anime mobile suit gundam iron blooded orphans
"Child Soldiers" isn't just in the start wars galaxy - it's a part of every day life for many children right now. Former adult soldiers have 'issues' fitting back into 'normal' society today, too.
I think, because this series is mostly being told from the perspective of Wim, the other character’s more normal reactions are there to remind us that Wim is a naive kid who thinks he wants excitement, because he thinks it would be like a game.
How about all the microplastics and forever chemicals building up in everyone? The pollution narrative is suppressed cuz $$$ has that power. Even Captain Planet himself, likely can't save us now.
Child soldiers were also used by other totalitarian regimes. Pol pot used them in Cambodia. And the Hitler jugend were used in battle of Berlin. Iran used them to as mine sweepers vs.iraq. although there is one example from the Bible as well. King David was young shepherd boy when he killed Goliath.
Is kings David Age told in Bible during this incident? And you know, king David is symbolic ruler of jews. He might be real but not have to. Historical things in Bible is Jesus and His activity as well as the first christains activity. Rest is Faith. Of course some things are fictional like Adam and Eve story to symbolize ideas and moral rules. So what im talking about, David vs Goliath is legend. But it is based on likely situation in these Times, where bordeelr beetwen Child and men wasnt 18 years of life.
@shadydowsith348 sadly, Hitler in 1933 was financed via Western US banks. In fact, Western Industrialists built Hitler's factories. All the major patent holders at that time were from the US.
In the King David scenario, would that even be considered a soldier? I'm not well versed on the story, but killing someone who (I presume) was ravaging your town or acting in self defense does not make you a "soldier."
@francothebrazilian2764 Correction! U mean weaponized globalization. This Rabbit hole is so deep that it involves not just financiers rather deliberate enabling of our so-called foreign enemies via technology like Standard Oil (John D. Rockefeller) & IG Farben via supplying the Luftwaffe and German Navy gasoline and tetra ethyl lead. The Nazis regime couldn't gone to war without this sophisticated fuel upgrading process. To add insult to injury Standard Oil withheld these patents from the US Navy whilst making them available to The Nazis. This is Real history, not public school education BS.
Is there no memory passed down of what was before the fighting on At Acceron? Neel talked about what the buildings were and what adults did on his planet. She never was like, I heard tales of our planet being prosperous and peaceful. Like theres still fairly functional playground equipment on the planet. Why dont they speak of what happened?
I made a previous comment on balancing the talk about Hamas, etc recruiting child soldiers, which is wrong of course, with the terrible toll of deaths on children, women and men in Gaza, but it seems to have been taken down. Was that TH-cam? Are some comments allowed but not others? I just think you should be balanced.
Support Peace. Support rationality. For a lot of the IRL stuff, each side feels justified, but at the same time each side is committing horrible acts, perpetuating and exacerbating the problems. Always, always, ALWAYS it is about the control of resources. Who wants what, and to what lengths will they go to get it.
If you take a farmer or teacher or shopkeeper and make him a soldier, he will fight...but always dream of going back to being a farmer or teacher or shopkeeper. He has a preferred identity, and soldier isn't it. But when you take child and make him a soldier...he will likely never become a farmer teacher or shopkeeper. We saw that happening in Iraq when child warriors occupied areas of Iraq and even though in control were so unable to be peaceable that even the Iraqis called for Americans to re-occupy those territories.
Great review on the subject of Child soldiers in SW. I’m Zambian but was raised in the west. I didn’t love your take on supporting War worn torn places like Palestine. Particularly since you have claimed to be on the side of Democracy. Hopefully you don’t support apartheid Or modern day settler colonialism that inflicts state violence against children daily... because I’d say systems like apartheid are another way to recruit child soldiers.
At this point, what prevented some warlords in the Outer Rim to establish the Devshirme system and form the unit similar to the Janissaries for their own uses? The major different will be that the Janissaries will never get to go to battles until they finished their education and become fully grown men. So at the very least, such system will be considered an improvement, right? I spoke based on the evidences that such a scenario where child soldiers is the norm, of course. Edit: Answers can be found by looking into the most unlikely sources of information, particularly from the defeated parties. Remember, history is not and never always be written by the victors. Those who lost did write their stories down and they should be taken equally seriously and not to be dismissed as propaganda because what written by the victors can be considered as nothing but propaganda too.
Thing to remember is that the other 8 worlds have LONG been "known to the Galaxy" and only At-Attin remained undiscovered and unspoiled. The eras in which the other 8 fell are probably scattered across the history of Star Wars. Having remmnant tech from the Rebellion, the Empire, the Clone Wars, and conflicts dating back to the Ruusan Reformation and before are all likely. ⛩️🔥⛩️
Thanks Allen, one idea: how old are the Robots? Is not about a proxy war between children? A new weapon is usually under 10 years old (a child). Our consumerism society is obsessed of new cars under 5 years old, we don’t promote a society of permanent improvement of a frame for a new look, we want a new machine instead under 10 years old.
Dude. I may be the only one, but i think you should go on that new podcast of sw theory and stupendous. I love the way you look at things and connect them to the real world. It's refreshing. I think your way of looking at things would benefit.
Hey Alan, I've always enjoyed your content; I especially appreciate the more reflective approach the last few videos have taken. Keep up the great work, Merry Christmas!
Thank you Alan, I love how you intertwine real world lessons and connections to star wars content. I also love how they are not just simple lessons and connections but they are relevant, important, and complex. Dropping knowledge on people without them even realizing it. Keep it up.
I fell like Neel is the real hero of the group, he doesn't want any of this shit. He just wants to sit at a desk and crunch numbers and he's afraid of everything. But Neel is the one that us there for everyone and that stands up for what's right even when it's hard or he's scared, he just does it anyway cause someone has to
I also wondered what use the Hattan might have for old Republic credits. They can’t be worth anything on At Achrin, but Jod might have convinced the Hattan they would be worth lots to visitors who bring munitions, which as the Troika leader says is all they trade for. So in the end, Jod bought back the Troika eopies with money that will be used to buy weapons to kill them.
Yeah actually the Hattan had tanks too already and we didn't see any child Soldiers with them. I also view child soldiers is kind of a desperate measure so maybe the Hattan are the strong side.
I'd argue it's more the underdevelopment of prefrontal cortex of teens and young adults rather than Alan's assumption of chidlren's or 18-year-old soldiers less developed fear centers of the brain. A more developed prefrontal cortex, usually after age 25, helps a person act less impulsively but more rationally, be it to postpone immediate rewards for longer term gains and well-being.
This is right. Kids do not have the ability to think through an idea to its logical conclusion (or set of possible conclusions). They also have a hard time imagining the worst possible consequences in a given situation.
Nice video, the comparison to real life child soldiers to star wars was interesting to listen to. I have a question tho, are there any instances of night vision being used in in Canon star wars lore? I build analog night vision devices as a hobby and im always curious to see my hobby portraid in media hahaha
@@GenerationTech Yeah I think I remember the clones using handheld night vision scanners, but I can't recall anyone ever using helmet mounted or Helmet built in night vision. It always makes me laugh to see Space age Militaries still using flashlights and stuff when a normal dude like me in the 21st century can have night vision/thermal fusion goggles like the damn predator hahaha
Heh... I was reely skeert as a little kit, but now I'm the most terrifying and lethal thing for thousands of miles and the whole community knows it. Actually, the locals are THANKFUL for me, and people like me.
Why has not one yt commentator pointed out the next leader on At-Achron, named Hanna, speaks in a german accent, yet her father doesn't have much of any accent, and the Troik is a throwback to the russian Troika (threesome - so who are the three leads of the "tribe")?
Since the planet is constantly in conflict, it makes sense that children are soldiers, they have to be since they won't survive if they are untrained, it is harsh but in that context it is normal for kids to be trained in soldiering and engage the enemy. What the episode is trying to show the difference between children who grew up in peace and order as opposed those who grew up in constant conflict
Alen I suggest you read Paris 1919 By Margret Macmillan. If you haven't already Your partition references are clearly Tied to Paris and creation of the modern political world .
In the United States, the age group with the highest rate of being a murderer is between the ages of 17 and 39. The number of offenders decreases after age 40.
Well when all you see are problems and issues it's easy to feel forlorn. The show and other stories are talking about the dark aspects of life to help drive the story and bring discussion on said aspects. There's also probably plenty of worlds that are stable, functioning societies like Naboo. Comparing At Atten to this world would of course make it look like a utopia, doesn't mean it is. Not saying that we should minimize the dark aspects of life, a person should know and understand them to be a better individual. Just that we shouldn't let ourselves get locked on them.
No, people are far from inherently good. The closest people have is sympathy. And while some are fairly lacking in it, others fail to restrain it to morality and justice: fighting just as much for the person causing problems as the one being wronged (or just whichever they are closer to/find the most pleasant). And of those who do, their morality might just be messed up or hypocritical. Or just incoherent. Being actually good, to more than just the people you have a strong personal bond with, is usually something we have to artificially build. And it’s on hard mode, since things like indoctrination or tyranny are not good, as are many other really effective methods for controlling and/or shaping people, groups, and societies.
3:27 "I have been in this fight since I was SIX years old!" - Cassian Andor
Andor: “ I’M doing MY part 👍!!”
Cas is king, he is the back bone and the soul reason the rebellion began to be something
Alen consider this too, age wise the clones were children when they were "released" to go battle in the war.
They were genetically modified to grow twice the rate of regular humans to hit adulthood to be battle ready for mass deployment.
Chronologically? Yes. Physically, nope
@@mrnemo204 the real question is if brain development can keep up, it's probably at least somewhat limited by time itself, if you only experience 8 years of your life, but you're physically 16, you only have the wisdom and experience of an 8 year old. the only reason they are even effective in combat is because they're trained as early as possible and as intensely as possible, making up for the lack of time, but at the cost of ignoring most basic life skills.
The clones are artificially aged, programmed enslaved child soldiers and many Jedi had no problem leading them to their deaths. We do see Anakin, Yoda, Obi and Ahsoka treating them as human, but there is a sub layer suggesting other Jedi might not do this.
@@Bas-TBand a couple like Bardan Jusic left specifically due to the jedi order not giving the clones a choice to fight or even basic rights. (Admittedly that was in a Legends novel 'Republic Commando')
I lived overseas in East Africa in the 80s. It is obvious you have spent time in these environments. My father gave us the opportunity to live. It has directed my life to make things a little better.
Well done, man. This is one of the best discussions of SW I’ve ever seen.
3:31 You forgot one! Hera Syndulla when she brings her son on an unauthorized mission to Seatos. Training a child soldier right in Ashoka.
I totally forgot that heras kid wss there 😅
My wife who hasn't seen Rebels instantly reacted to her bringing her son on a very dangerous mission. I explained that it is a family tradition of festering war trauma.
The New Republic didn't pass the Naval Child Care Act. No babysitters on the ships.
@@earnestbrown6524 bahahahahahahahah. What about the one Droid that taught them how to build lightsabers?
I feel like he kinda counts, as he did protect the young ones
She had the common problem of a working mum, couldn't find a babysitter.
Not sure if it needs to be said but being anti-genocide doesn’t mean supporting terrorists. Very thoughtful video as always, much enjoyed.
Every episode from now on, I'm going to ask for a documentary on the galactic civil war: attempt 1
I'm like half sure he already made one,
@@lamlol605Barely took a week for him to indulge the request about which Jedi Council seat was comfiest
@@EthanKironus8067😂
Jeeze man, youre a breath of fresh air. Grounded takes on the real life situations portrayed in these fantasy shows.
At this point i start to tense up when i hear a youtuber start to talk about anyrhing political, because it seems to be very common to have really.. ungrounded views. But you, are someone I could see myself being a real friend with. Gonna go continue binging your videos now. Even though you talk about 80% fantasy stuff, your takes are so refreshing and balanced when it comes into the real world stuff.
Aren't the Clones technically 10 years old
Yep.
First battle at Geonosis the oldest ones were 9+ years old. At 2x accelerated growth, they'd be physically 18, and perhaps due to education and their behavior chip, might actually act 18 or older - the discipline and training parts, for sure.
Is it worth pointing out that the clones are essentially children as well? And... ya know... slaves.
Slick was kind of right
Very well said. My 5 and 7 seems confused in watching this episode. Wars to them is more like between Cybertron and Deception. It's a good and light way to have them start thinking more seriously.
I find it impressive that this show managed to go from "life in suburban america in the 80s" to "beasts of no nation" in 4 episodes
Wow, I did not expect the world history and ethics lesson at the end. Great stuff. Do you have more videos explaining stuff like that on a different channel? I'd like and sub fast if there is.
I was not expecting to see Mathieu Kassovitz in Star Wars.
Can’t wait for the rumored Jod backstory in episode 7!
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In an interview Jude Law said that his character didn't really know who he is and that he had no childhood.
I want to preface this by saying that there isn't anything factually wrong with what you actually say from 13:15 , the problem is that a lot of people will take how you use the example of Palestine as confirmation of Israeli propaganda. Which concerns me more because you are very much someone people trust to have a clear head about this stuff.
I know this is not a video, nor a channel, set up to discuss the (decidedly illegal) occupation of Palestine, so any reference is going to be brief, but I am concerned that you invoke Palestine as an example regarding child soldiering when there are much better examples. I've rewritten myself a half-dozen times over the last 30 minutes and still haven't found a good way to express my reaction to this part, which means I should probably not try too hard.
Like, given how thoroughly Israel is targeting Palestinian children--children being shot in the head by highly-trained snipers, Hind Rajab who was murdered in cold blood only after the Israeli military was informed of her location by the medics who were also targeted despite coordinating their movements with the Israeli military, said military bombing the very places they declared "safe zones" when families are crowded in by the thousands--just in the last year, let alone over the many decades of illegal occupation, they don't need any help hating. Btw, the vast majority of Palestinians know that Israel is responsible, not Jewish people. Some Palestinian groups do traffic in antisemitism, but the lack of context you provide falsely suggests that it's a bigger factor than it actually is.
P.S. If you're interested in a discussion in a more appropriate setting than the comments section I'd be sincerely glad to oblige. You're clearly someone who is able to hold a civilized, let alone intelligent, conversation about such serious stuff.
Much better thought out than some of the other comments here. Hope he sees reasonable counterarguments like this one
ANY soldier who has seen war is gonna have a hard time afterwards.
In With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa, the writer Eugene Sledge perhaps put it best. While he was writing specifically about his experiences on Peleliu, you could probably apply to any major experience of combat:
"To the noncombatants and those on the periphery of the action, the war meant only boredom or occasional excitement, but to those who entered the meat grinder itself the war was a netherworld of horror from which escape seemed less and less likely as the casualties mounted and the fighting dragged on and on. Time had no meaning, life had no meaning. The fierce struggle for survival in the abyss of Peleliu had eroded the veneer of civilization and made savages of us all."
Great comments on the misconceptions of the Levant area. People need to hear that more often.
Alan, I've followed you channel for a seemingly endlessly long time now.
While this isn't my favorite video you've done, it's the best one yet. Timely, well weitten, and extremely thoughtful.
Thank you for being you.
Allen, reporter with corusant news network. Any comment on the rumored dolphin-insectoid not aggression treaty?
And videos like these are the reasons I follow you! I really like how you put the story in a real-life context very respectfully. I did find that episode unsettling from the point that the seriousness of the situation in Att Achran was a bit sidetracked. But yeah, the meaning was to show the naivety of the children from the shielded planet towards the mess that the rest of the galaxy is.
Thank you! Great video!
This is why I really wish this was an hour long, even a child friendly show, I thought it was too rushed. I kind of wish Win could learn what the cost. I’m still not happy with KB augment. I really want to understand her moms reasons for allowing KB to go through her surgery.
Thank you Allen.
Another great essay
Thank you for this. I have been waiting for someone to do a deep dive into the fact that the psycho “General” sent the kids out in front to be killed. You did not disappoint.
Maybe they were using mainly nonlethal weapons. Otherwise i doubt that the general would have sent his daughter with them.
Yes, kids can be manipulated into soldiers...yet, they are also quick to identify and relate to acts of kindness. Neel's act of kindness was an automatic response that Hayma noticed immediately. I hope they both work to develop an alliance between the 9 at-planets.
It hit me how the melee weapons look similar to the spikes that the Pykes uses in the Spice mines of Kessel
Great ending of the video to tie to real life
Side note: those child soldiers in Africa get kidnapped during raids on remote villages. That's why they're orphans - their parents were murdered in those raids.
Also, only the boys become child soldiers.
The fate of the girls is worse.
Actually, these kid are technically older than those millions of fresh Clone troopers
If you get a chance read "a long way gone" , it's about a child soldier in Sierre Leone
Dang I read that in school and haven't thought about it in so long. Immediately as I read your comment the cover popped into my mind.
@matrixfan58 when I listened to this vid, that same cover and story came flooding back to me. It definitely left an impact.
Fantastic (though depressing) read.
When listing child warriors in SW you failed to mention Omega!
Another reason kids work well as soldiers is how fast they learn. Younger kids learn stuff faster and start slowing down the older they get. It’s why kids can learn how to talk and speak so quickly. A young kid say around 10 can learn how to fight much faster. They can actually become a fairly well trained and competent soldier much much faster than an adult and pick up specialized skills too. They also have better reflex’s that slow down as they get older it’s why a lot of gamers are younger and stop being able to keep us as they grow older. This makes them very good at using vehicles. Anakin didn’t just win the pod race because he was force sensitive he won because he was able to figure out how to pilot quicker being young instead of needing years of training and because he has faster reflexes than the adult racers. For examples to show how effective child soldiers are please see the anime mobile suit gundam iron blooded orphans
"Child Soldiers" isn't just in the start wars galaxy - it's a part of every day life for many children right now.
Former adult soldiers have 'issues' fitting back into 'normal' society today, too.
I think, because this series is mostly being told from the perspective of Wim, the other character’s more normal reactions are there to remind us that Wim is a naive kid who thinks he wants excitement, because he thinks it would be like a game.
Thank you for this message Allen!
Thank you so much for your take on all this! Bless you Allen.
I think Flint has something to say about clean water
How about all the microplastics and forever chemicals building up in everyone? The pollution narrative is suppressed cuz $$$ has that power. Even Captain Planet himself, likely can't save us now.
Ah Allen. That was a great video! Thank you very much!
It’s called Star Wars, for a reason.
You explained this absolutely perfectly
Child soldiers were also used by other totalitarian regimes. Pol pot used them in Cambodia. And the Hitler jugend were used in battle of Berlin. Iran used them to as mine sweepers vs.iraq. although there is one example from the Bible as well. King David was young shepherd boy when he killed Goliath.
Is kings David Age told in Bible during this incident? And you know, king David is symbolic ruler of jews. He might be real but not have to. Historical things in Bible is Jesus and His activity as well as the first christains activity. Rest is Faith. Of course some things are fictional like Adam and Eve story to symbolize ideas and moral rules. So what im talking about, David vs Goliath is legend. But it is based on likely situation in these Times, where bordeelr beetwen Child and men wasnt 18 years of life.
@shadydowsith348 sadly, Hitler in 1933 was financed via Western US banks. In fact, Western Industrialists built Hitler's factories. All the major patent holders at that time were from the US.
In the King David scenario, would that even be considered a soldier? I'm not well versed on the story, but killing someone who (I presume) was ravaging your town or acting in self defense does not make you a "soldier."
@@SwaggerLikeUzI think you don’t understand how world economics worked that time especially after ww1
@francothebrazilian2764 Correction! U mean weaponized globalization. This Rabbit hole is so deep that it involves not just financiers rather deliberate enabling of our so-called foreign enemies via technology like Standard Oil (John D. Rockefeller) & IG Farben via supplying the Luftwaffe and German Navy gasoline and tetra ethyl lead. The Nazis regime couldn't gone to war without this sophisticated fuel upgrading process.
To add insult to injury Standard Oil withheld these patents from the US Navy whilst making them available to The Nazis. This is Real history, not public school education BS.
Is there no memory passed down of what was before the fighting on At Acceron? Neel talked about what the buildings were and what adults did on his planet. She never was like, I heard tales of our planet being prosperous and peaceful. Like theres still fairly functional playground equipment on the planet. Why dont they speak of what happened?
I appreciate your focus on this one. Thanks.
Just a quick comment... Boeing workers deserve a lot of respect for their work.
I made a previous comment on balancing the talk about Hamas, etc recruiting child soldiers, which is wrong of course, with the terrible toll of deaths on children, women and men in Gaza, but it seems to have been taken down. Was that TH-cam? Are some comments allowed but not others? I just think you should be balanced.
Support Peace. Support rationality.
For a lot of the IRL stuff, each side feels justified, but at the same time each side is committing horrible acts, perpetuating and exacerbating the problems. Always, always, ALWAYS it is about the control of resources. Who wants what, and to what lengths will they go to get it.
If you take a farmer or teacher or shopkeeper and make him a soldier, he will fight...but always dream of going back to being a farmer or teacher or shopkeeper. He has a preferred identity, and soldier isn't it. But when you take child and make him a soldier...he will likely never become a farmer teacher or shopkeeper. We saw that happening in Iraq when child warriors occupied areas of Iraq and even though in control were so unable to be peaceable that even the Iraqis called for Americans to re-occupy those territories.
I was like, "Hides? What hides?"
Great review on the subject of Child soldiers in SW. I’m Zambian but was raised in the west. I didn’t love your take on supporting War worn torn places like Palestine. Particularly since you have claimed to be on the side of Democracy. Hopefully you don’t support apartheid Or modern day settler colonialism that inflicts state violence against children daily... because I’d say systems like apartheid are another way to recruit child soldiers.
At this point, what prevented some warlords in the Outer Rim to establish the Devshirme system and form the unit similar to the Janissaries for their own uses? The major different will be that the Janissaries will never get to go to battles until they finished their education and become fully grown men.
So at the very least, such system will be considered an improvement, right? I spoke based on the evidences that such a scenario where child soldiers is the norm, of course.
Edit: Answers can be found by looking into the most unlikely sources of information, particularly from the defeated parties. Remember, history is not and never always be written by the victors. Those who lost did write their stories down and they should be taken equally seriously and not to be dismissed as propaganda because what written by the victors can be considered as nothing but propaganda too.
Dude! You did this subject justice! It's not simple, but it's not right! Sympathy for the kids.
Is it me, or does the Generals staff look like it’s from an X-Wing ?
Children not being traumatized is the unnatural thing.
The warlord gave me some "beasts of no nation" vibes
"How does your commandant look!"
"Good sar"
Jedi Order = child soldier employer.
Thing to remember is that the other 8 worlds have LONG been "known to the Galaxy" and only At-Attin remained undiscovered and unspoiled. The eras in which the other 8 fell are probably scattered across the history of Star Wars. Having remmnant tech from the Rebellion, the Empire, the Clone Wars, and conflicts dating back to the Ruusan Reformation and before are all likely. ⛩️🔥⛩️
Thanks Allen, one idea: how old are the Robots? Is not about a proxy war between children? A new weapon is usually under 10 years old (a child).
Our consumerism society is obsessed of new cars under 5 years old, we don’t promote a society of permanent improvement of a frame for a new look, we want a new machine instead under 10 years old.
to think not over 100 years ago we sent them into chimneys and coal mines
This episode gave me major Star Trek TOS and or Twilight Zone vibes - in the best way.
Allen's explaination about child soldiers was nicely done.
Very based take, thanks!
Will has been getting his pals into trouble since day one, I wonder how they will snap at him.
Watch Blood Diamond the movie a definite recommend on such a topic
Dude. I may be the only one, but i think you should go on that new podcast of sw theory and stupendous. I love the way you look at things and connect them to the real world. It's refreshing. I think your way of looking at things would benefit.
Those two have gone down the toxic rabbit hole, it’s best he avoids them.
@@Mr-Rinn yeah, I wouldn't see them as examples
Thanks for sharing
Very Nice
Hey Alan, I've always enjoyed your content; I especially appreciate the more reflective approach the last few videos have taken. Keep up the great work, Merry Christmas!
Thank you Alan, I love how you intertwine real world lessons and connections to star wars content. I also love how they are not just simple lessons and connections but they are relevant, important, and complex. Dropping knowledge on people without them even realizing it. Keep it up.
Did anyone notice that the guy with the staff is the love interest in Amelie
Absolutement!
I fell like Neel is the real hero of the group, he doesn't want any of this shit. He just wants to sit at a desk and crunch numbers and he's afraid of everything. But Neel is the one that us there for everyone and that stands up for what's right even when it's hard or he's scared, he just does it anyway cause someone has to
I also wondered what use the Hattan might have for old Republic credits. They can’t be worth anything on At Achrin, but Jod might have convinced the Hattan they would be worth lots to visitors who bring munitions, which as the Troika leader says is all they trade for. So in the end, Jod bought back the Troika eopies with money that will be used to buy weapons to kill them.
Yeah actually the Hattan had tanks too already and we didn't see any child Soldiers with them. I also view child soldiers is kind of a desperate measure so maybe the Hattan are the strong side.
I'd argue it's more the underdevelopment of prefrontal cortex of teens and young adults rather than Alan's assumption of chidlren's or 18-year-old soldiers less developed fear centers of the brain. A more developed prefrontal cortex, usually after age 25, helps a person act less impulsively but more rationally, be it to postpone immediate rewards for longer term gains and well-being.
This is right. Kids do not have the ability to think through an idea to its logical conclusion (or set of possible conclusions). They also have a hard time imagining the worst possible consequences in a given situation.
Nice video, the comparison to real life child soldiers to star wars was interesting to listen to. I have a question tho, are there any instances of night vision being used in in Canon star wars lore? I build analog night vision devices as a hobby and im always curious to see my hobby portraid in media hahaha
definitely seen them used in the clone wars along with rangefinders
I think they were used in Mandalorian season 1
@@GenerationTech Yeah I think I remember the clones using handheld night vision scanners, but I can't recall anyone ever using helmet mounted or Helmet built in night vision. It always makes me laugh to see Space age Militaries still using flashlights and stuff when a normal dude like me in the 21st century can have night vision/thermal fusion goggles like the damn predator hahaha
What a surprise the guy who never misses a chance to hear out a fictional fascist empire has a naive and spoon fed view of the world.
More specifics and less smears plz
Heh...
I was reely skeert as a little kit, but now I'm the most terrifying and lethal thing for thousands of miles and the whole community knows it.
Actually, the locals are THANKFUL for me, and people like me.
Am I the only one who really wants to know more about that tank we saw in skeleton crew?
Very based discussion and perspective, Allen (sp?)
5:00 I don't think anyone really understands what is going on in that situation
Alan, you should wear a "Skipper" cap when you shoot your videos...
What's her name said, "I want a little o' dat trunk!"
Tryna play some slapball?
You know...
Thank you for speaking up against terrorist organizations!
the IOF?
Why has not one yt commentator pointed out the next leader on At-Achron, named Hanna, speaks in a german accent, yet her father doesn't have much of any accent, and the Troik is a throwback to the russian Troika (threesome - so who are the three leads of the "tribe")?
The warlord is french. He has an authentic accent. They all have a French (& a bit of Slavic/rus) accent.
Came for the lore, stayed for the based
Yea the warlord dad was so using the cast as cannon fodder and sending them out first.
Since the planet is constantly in conflict, it makes sense that children are soldiers, they have to be since they won't survive if they are untrained, it is harsh but in that context it is normal for kids to be trained in soldiering and engage the enemy. What the episode is trying to show the difference between children who grew up in peace and order as opposed those who grew up in constant conflict
Alen I suggest you read Paris 1919
By Margret Macmillan.
If you haven't already
Your partition references are clearly
Tied to Paris and creation of the modern political world .
Well, it is called Star WARS! Would it be as interesting if it was called Star PEACE? There's something to think about.
Look at our reality. The most common killers in the streets are kids 12-17 that are in gangs.
In the United States, the age group with the highest rate of being a murderer is between the ages of 17 and 39. The number of offenders decreases after age 40.
Hegemony is pronounced heh-jeh’-muh-nee, accent on the second syllable. It’s a problematic word, similar to hyperbole.
Well when all you see are problems and issues it's easy to feel forlorn. The show and other stories are talking about the dark aspects of life to help drive the story and bring discussion on said aspects. There's also probably plenty of worlds that are stable, functioning societies like Naboo. Comparing At Atten to this world would of course make it look like a utopia, doesn't mean it is. Not saying that we should minimize the dark aspects of life, a person should know and understand them to be a better individual. Just that we shouldn't let ourselves get locked on them.
Foolish to support unnecessary violence . Let’s hope we learn from the past
Bros gonna get cancelled for saying Hamas aren’t good ppl
No, people are far from inherently good. The closest people have is sympathy. And while some are fairly lacking in it, others fail to restrain it to morality and justice: fighting just as much for the person causing problems as the one being wronged (or just whichever they are closer to/find the most pleasant). And of those who do, their morality might just be messed up or hypocritical. Or just incoherent.
Being actually good, to more than just the people you have a strong personal bond with, is usually something we have to artificially build. And it’s on hard mode, since things like indoctrination or tyranny are not good, as are many other really effective methods for controlling and/or shaping people, groups, and societies.
It was this episode when I realized Neel is Indraneel Ganesha, the god of beginnings, luck, and the removal of obstacles.
So when do we get darth dumbo?
Im 1000% for neel to go evil
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I really love your view of government, too often people seem to think life owes them a comfortable life
1:54 no!!! you had to talk about boing! it is going to be so sad when Allen dies in a car crash 😢