A force-sensitive scoundrel using the Jedi's philosophy against attachments as a way of justifying alienating and betraying others to look out for himself is such a fun idea for a character.
Could be Jod couldve been found by Asaaj Ventress or an ex-Sith or Inquisitor, and knows this twisted jedi wisdom. We have seen jedi scoundrels before, Kanan Jarrus and Cal Kestis, but they kept the teachings from their masters without being twisted.
I wouldn't assume Jod is weak with the force. Mind control doesn't work on a group of people and public displays of the force is a good way to get hunted by inquisitors.
Something Star Wars has been adamant about is the idea the Jedi are in more peril the more there are in one place and they’ll never recover from always being annihilated but they keep introducing 10,000 new surviving original Jedi and their apprentices yet they miss the opportunity to tell a story about righteousness extending beyond the walls of the Jedi Temple and the Jedi being freed from the bonds of what was a literal form of slavery, not just spiritual, under their old masters and they still have their monastic duties and force sensitivity to give them purpose. Christians and Jews don’t give up when we’re hunted to almost total extinction. We can’t. We have to pick up the pieces every time we lose chain of command, moral legitimacy and sheer numbers.
The idea he was a padawan survivor would make a lot of sense for his character traits. A young person thrust into a survival situation that would last indefinitely when they were once safe can change them significantly.
What made me suspect Jod might be a padawan survivor of Order 66 early on is both his age lining up (assuming Jod is supposed to be somewhere in his 40s) and that he continues to show only the most basic Force abilities (levitation). With his apparent knowledge of Jedi proverbs on top of that, his being a padawan whose training ended prematurely would go a long way in explaining his entry level knowledge and skills.
The pearls of wisdom suggest rudimentary Jedi training at the very least, but the fact he barely uses the Force could even mean he was a padawan washout like Ventress was.
I believe he was self-taught. Probably just like Wim, he was a kid with dreams of traveling the galaxy. But unlike Wim, he grew up like Han Solo, probably stealing and conning his way to survive. When his abilities started to manifest, I'm willing to bet someone recognized it and hoped to use the kid to their advantage. Maybe even gave the kid a sacred text of the Jedi salvaged (or stolen) from the ruins of the Jedi order. And just like a kid who reads Marcus Arillius at night, or Plato during his free time, learning this philosophy helped him to grow up and not fear his abilities. We have no idea what happened before he set out on his own, but he made a conscious decision that he was in charge of his life and that using his abilities in public was too dangerous. Not that he couldn't control his powers, but that the knowledge of the force could be exploited as a "commodity" for someone else.....say a band of pirates, for example? Hidden away for many years, he only uses the force when it comes to his survival. And only if he has the ability to keep his secret safe.
I like how the author of Dune said he wanted to warn of the dangers of Messiahs and cults while in Star Wars the Republic Jedi were so immersed in it that it destroyed their order.
Jod was obviously of youngling or padawan during Order 66. He is now jaded, and rightly so. He has used his knowledge to survive a wild galaxy. To survive the Empire he had to hide among the worst of the worst. I love this character.
Depending on when in the New Republic era this is, the Jod being an Order 66 youngling survivor theory seems most plausible, right? It would go to some length to explain his familiarity with Jedi expressions (such as those Yoda would have chanted during exercises with younglings), as well as the complexity of both selfishness and empathy in Jod; he can *sympathize* with Wim, having been a lost child at once, Force powers or not; but, having likely been largely on his own after surviving O66, it would follow that such a hard life would have its own lasting effects, as is the case with so many stories of such roguish characters.
Sincerely, thanks for the content during the holidays. You're a good man, with a good crew, and it's a gift for you to take time away from your personal life to make content like this. We'll never see eye to eye on the Jedi, but you're a grandmaster in my books.
Could be he doesn't celebrate Christmas or haunaka (no idea how to spell it), which is fine. Only 2 religions consider this time of year holy just saying. America has more than Christians and Jewish people.
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I really appreciate your content as a political science student. It’s really refreshing to hear your takes, and I actually found a way to formally cite one of your videos on economics in a recent final!! Happy holidays, looking forward to the next ep!
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The “I waited, and the force provided” quote reminds me of an old joke: A man is hanging on to a floating branch in a flood and praying to be saved when a boat comes by to rescue him. He tells the rescuers that he won’t come with them, and he has faith God will save him. A little while later a helicopter flies overhead and a rescuer ropes down to save him. He once again tells the rescuers that he won’t go with them because he has faith God will save him. A short while later he drowns, and goes to heaven. He asks God why he didn’t save him, and God says, “I sent you a boat and a helicopter, what more could you want?”
This show has been so good and episode 5 made it great. Andor will always have my heart, Season One of Mando will always be special, but THIS goes up there on the list too. Kids show? It's a GREAT show, period. And Jude Law now has one of the most interesting characters we've seen in the Star Wars galaxy we've seen in a long time.
Interesting that they dropped Dash as an alias since Dash Rendar is an obscure character from Shadows of the Empire. I wonder if all the other aliases he's known by are actually easter eggs for notable characters.
I said something like this in a comment on another video I think Jod might've been a youngling, during order 66. Not a full blown Padawan. Everytime he quotes the Jedi, it always seems like a simplistic, child-like understanding of a faction he was involved in. Which contrasts to Wim's romanticizing the Jedi stories. Jod and Wim are probably extremely alike, and Jod was probably very much like Wim when he was a kid.
IMO he was a youngling survivor from the temple. So he got the initial blast of jedi indoctrination but he was traumatized for life by Anakin and is bearing scars of abandonment. He identifies with the kids, though (well, his arc is going to show that). This makes perfect narrative sense for the show.
I have a different take on the saying "Your focus determines your reality" quote. To me it speaks a bit of psychology theory: how you view a situation changes it or how you feel and act/react to it. Basically that your mood/perspective will affect how you see a situation. Changing your thought process can give you a different view or mindset to better deal with a situation. Like Yoda and Luke when trying to lift his x-wing out of the water, Yoda said Luke failed because he didn't believe he could. I don't think they mean you can manifest anything but how you view a situation can limit yourself in ways you are not aware of.
There were other force users outside of the Jedi and Sith. My personal theory is that he was a crimson guardsmen (the red robed guys who protected the emperor) or even an Emperor's hand.
This makes sense given that this takes place after the Empire fell and those who wore the red robes might have taken the skills and knowledge that they had as Imperial Guards and used it to make a living outside of the New Republic. It would also explain his need to have all those identities, given that the New Republic was rounding up former Imperials.
It is such a fun and good show. I'm really enjoying it and that they're releasing it weekly rather than dropping it all at once to binge. It gives the watchers time to think and theorize. After this last episode, I've got a bit of an out-there theory: Tak Rennod was Jod Na Nawood's jedi master. As you mention in this video, Jod clearly knows a decent amount of jedi lore, so it is likely that he was a padawan, especially as he has some force abilities, albeit limited to telekinesis. I'd imagine his training was interrupted due to Order 66. We've seen that jedi are very aware of different lightsabers, so I think when they enter Tak's chamber, Jod recognizes that lightsaber as his master's. You can see throughout this scene Jod is a bit off. Then when he actually listens to Tak's log, it has Jod's full and complete attention, that he's listening intently on the voice of the person who killed his master. Jod has been very quick thinking up until now, but after listening to it, he stands and thinks for quite a while with a heavy weight on his shoulders. He's trying to process that his master managed to survive, but also turned to piracy, just as he did. The struggle between continuing as the baby sitter to the kids (the path of kindness) and embracing his previous piracy (the path of selfishness) is palpable. And this struggle continues as he challenges Fern, and tries so hard not to harm her. He gives her so many chances to yield illustrating that he doesn't want to completely abandon the path of kindness.
If there's one thing I want out of a show, it's the Mantis crew being there. They wouldn't even have to be leading characters, they could be great supporting ones.
I would like to think Jod was in training to be a Jedi before Order 66 occurred. He would be the perfect foil to Whim as well since Whim looks up to the Jedi from his stories and if Jod was a padawan or reject padawan he would have reason for the Jedi aren't honorable as they seem to be
Jod was the padawan of Baylan Skol. Baylan's separation from the Jedi wasn't a cut or die thing, it was a gradual separation where Jod slowly took on the beliefs of his master. However, Jod himself didn't share the same cynicism and views of Baylan. Baylan held a much darker view of the Jedi and the galaxy as a whole. Baylan wanted more power and control of the force, Jod really just wanted to be a Jedi. He wanted and aspired to be all that Whim wishes he could have been. The problem is Jod never saw things the way Baylan did and Baylan left Jod with the pirates and to fend for his own. By this time, both knew of Order 66 and knew being found out as a Jedi would be worth credits, so Jod hid himself from the force as well as hid the fact that he was a force user. The result is the Jod we see today, calculating, manipulative, capable in the force but disconnected from it. He no longer shares the values of the Jedi, but he doesn't quite share the cynical beliefs nor the drive for power that Baylan has and is searching out. This is why Baylan has such a young apprentice at the time of Asohka.
It is pretty clear he was once a Jedi or padawan and something happened during Order 66. Whether his master was killed or he escaped the temple. I am leaning toward the first. He reminds me of Kanan Jarrus. Age/type. Since Dave Filoni loves Plo Kloon, it would be cool if this was his padawan. He was waiting on the planet for Plo, but his clone troopers shot him out of the sky. "Unidentified Padawan - Jedi Master Plo Koon's final apprentice of the Legends canon remains largely unidentified, and not much is known about the Padawan"
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My theory - Jod was found and trained by Assaj Ventress or either an ex-Sith or Inquisitor. Something about him feels like that was his background. Remember Jod and Kanan both have similar backgrounds, in which Kanan Jarrus was an ex pirate/scoundrel, he was found by a pirate and was taught pirating by the pirate who found him. Yet Kanan Jarrus maintained the wisdom and teachings of Master Bilabba. He was able to train Eztra with those teachings. But Jod shows that he knows the jedi teachings but they are twisted. I wont be surprised if he bled out that lightsaber that Wim found.
The sister in Obi-Wan Kenobi was a child when Anakin came to kill the younglings. I think Jod is at least 10 years older than she. He either was a Padawan or he did not make it through the training of younglings because he could not adhere to the teachings.
Jod's parallel behaviors and sayings with Obi-Wan are too hard to ignore at this point. They probably wouldn't have the guts to come out and announce him as Obi-Wan and Satine Kryze's son, but the set up is there. The other possibility is that he's the youngling that they did the close up with when Anakin was sacking the Jedi Temple (maybe an attempt to redeem Anakin). Either way, if true, it would make Jod the only character in this series with a direct tie to the movies.
Jod mentions his home world being very "ashy" which suggests he was there long enough to enough to remember it. He probably wouldn't if he were taken by the Order. I'm starting to think he was just a randomf force sensitive that maybe found a Jedi temple much like Wimm was hoping to find at some point or found a stash of Holochrons with some starter lessons while pillaging as a young pirate. He probably vibed with some of those lessons as someone who was trying to be hard and tough to survive.
I’m not sure exactly where he’s from and I don’t think I’m ready to double down that he was a traditional Jedi padawan from coruscant, in episode 4 right when they landed on At achrin he said it reminded him of his home planet, meaning he has memories of his home planet. If he was taken as an infant like all the other members of the Jedi, he either has core memories from his infancy or he visited his home planet at some point later on… or he was introduced to the Jedi later? I’m not sure, there’s still too much mystery behind him I think.
The last episode made clearly for me that Jod was a padawan or youngling that survive the order 66, his idea of detachment is selfis, and not the way a Jedi understand, so probably he was a chield when this concept was taught.
I’d like to see what happened to the younglings that weren’t chosen and ended up as farmers or other things on Jedi owned planets. People who just barely could use the force and had basic knowledge. How many of those kids became bitter and left?
I’m not sure we really know the extent of Jod’s force abilities. Besides, post Order 66, survival seems to have required disguising or interrupting one’s connection to the force. So there are several potential directions they might take the character…
Seeing how he applies Jedi teaching is a neat but realistic spin on "a certain point of view" that gives Jod tragic depth. He feels like a good man gone wrong, like perhaps he was a Padawan that saw the fall of the Jedi, perhaps even witnessed Anakin's dark temple deeds, and was hardened and disillusioned thereby.
Wait…”your focus determines your reality” doesn’t have to be anything supernatural…it can just mean whatever you choose to give your attention will occupy your conscious mind, thereby becoming everything to you in those moments. The greater your ability to control and direct your attention, and to tune out distractions, the more enveloping the subject of your focus will be. Maybe they should say “your focus determines your reality in that moment.”
Im thinking he's a 66 survivor and unlike Canin and Cal he used his force abilities like a lot of people probably would outside the order to enrich themselves
my bet is he either was actually schooled by some jedi, or found some training materials, maybe a holocron? timeline is quite against him being youngling of the order 66 era, but maybe he is older than he looks?
A Jedi from the Early High Republic that was put into Cryo sleep and woke up after the fall of the Empire and wakes up to the Jedi being murdered. Makes his way as a pirate..
Maybe he was a Padawan and he was asked to leave like the afternoon of Order 66 because he was not as strong with the force at that time. He was a believer and his Jedi Master was a little greyish Jedi. Then after what the Empire started about the Jedi he started to "get lost" so to survive. He might be able to do the equivalent of like a youngling force ability.
6:29 "Most people thought the Jedi were a myth" -- I've never really understood how this can be. Even when Star Wars first came out, characters who were old enough to have had kids of their own when the Empire seized power are all dismissive and doubting of the mere existence of a Jedi "cult" -- and it was just a couple of decades ago, from their perspective, not nearly long enough for the Emperor's efforts to wash them from history to be effective. I could understand it if it were just characters from some random backwater world that rarely had contact with the rest of the galaxy... but these are characters from Core Worlds, like Coruscant and Alderaan, worlds where people are informed and involved in the modern politics and events of the Star Wars galaxy. The Jedi and the Sith existed for tens of millennia as organizations -- they waged multiple wars across the known galaxy, wars that left entire planets in ruins. The Jedi were the go-to diplomatic option for dozens of worlds (even the Hutts!) when the Old Republic had it's xenophobic "Republic First" phase and wiped out entire planets of non-human sentient life. They became the SWAT of the galaxy in terms of law enforcement and peacekeeping as the Old Republic matured. And just before the Empire, they were the equivalent of Special Forces for the Republic, conducting peacekeeping operations on multiple worlds and leading entire armies into battle. They've never tried to hide their existence -- they even live in some of the most prominent and respected territory on Coruscant. There's just no way the galaxy at large would see them as a fabricated myth -- that's like us saying the Pope and the Catholic Church doesn't exist, that the whole thing is just a story told to frighten children. I've never met the Pope -- I've never even seen a nun in that traditional outfit -- but I don't doubt they exist, that they are real people doing real things for the past 2,000 years. So why do so many Star Wars characters doubt the existence of the Jedi?
Tongue-in-cheek as this suggestion may appear on its face, I mean it with the utmost sincerity, you could compile an entire treatise (video?) on Critical Force Theory. You've already got the beginnings spread out in your catalogue, notably (but not exclusively) for the Jedi. A comprehensive interpretation on the malignant effects (intentional or otherwise) by supremacy of any such repressive societal organization might serve as much as a parallel for humanity's problems, despite best efforts and intentions, as much as because of one based on fear, hatred, and passion.
Redemption and reunification. For Jod: We are either gonna see Ahsoka, or Luke (or one of his "new jedi order" disciples). For At Attin: They will be rediscovered and reabsorbed by the New Republic. For the kids: They will likely go into service of the New Republic, if not on At Attin, then elsewhere. Wistfully remembering their shared adventure, as the become desk jockeys in a financial mainframe.
Imagine being taken from your family to become a Jedi, but the Jedi either fail you or fall. Jod’s is using the teaching to cope. “Parents, bah, they’ll just slow you down.” It’s easier for him to rationalize in this manner than face his sadness and loneliness. … is what I would argue. But who knows. I’m not even convinced he’s a Jedi padawan/youngling or even has real force powers.
Let’s not forget we saw in the Acolyte that the Jedi did actually see the force sensitive children as their entitlement. And Brendok wasn’t even part of the republic. That’s the equivalent of the French police walking into my home in uk saying they have divine right to access to my children. “Listen mate, you can do all the sorcery you like but like, hell will you be going near my kids”. And ended the series mopping up “for the greater good”. Personally I don’t think the order should have allied itself to anyone, I think Qui Gon thought it too. They couldn’t serve two masters, the force and the republic. (Or three seeing as they were all technically sith puppets). Edit- yoda explained the principles of attachment but probably shouldn’t have been their go to for that.
i think Jod was a padawan when order 66 hit and he was able to escape and some pirates found him or he found them and he stayed with them to remain hidden from order 66 :)and that is why he says that he is alone and lost like them because he has technically no one to trust exept him self
Jod was Wim at the same age, and their stories are meant to mirror each other. In the Jedi, Wim sees adventure and escape from a system that seeks to determine his future. For Jod the Jedi were that system. That’s why he tells Wim to find his own path. I think Jod chose to leave the Jedi training, and Wim will be faced with a choice to stay or leave At Attin.
He’s a fallen Jedi who doesn’t follow the code anymore and/or doesn’t remember everything he was taught as it’s been at least 20+ years since Order 66 and The Jedi Purge. I’m just you know.
Remember the old republic MMO movie clips showing us not all force sensitive children are taken by the Jedi... these individuals may have just trained themselves using the force... I think the galaxy will be more interesting by telling stories about individuals who possesses the force but doesn't necessarily have to be a sith or jedi Like if one is gifted they're just good at it like many fotballers who has the skill but not the training to become good fotballers in the world stage They just did not have the chance to shine
If it wasn't for Jod being too young for it, I'd almost want to believe that he's supposed to be Rael Aveross, Count Dooku's apprentice before Qui-gon. It'd make sense why he said, word for word, the same thing as Qui-gon, Rael was always flirting (pun intended) with the rules of the Jedi Order and his final fate is unknown. They could get around him being too young by saying he got frozen in carbonite at some point I guess but I doubt they'd actually end up doing that
A bit like mature Asajj Ventress, then? Minus the skills, personality, or interesting life experiences that got her there. Nah. He's probably simply a Force sensitive dolphin plant.
My theory is he either is some kinda see secret Jedi Survivor kinda thing OR he strongly admires quite a lot centered around their teachings and or philosophies Some ARE dumb though. Like... CAN you TRULY Love someone or thing IF you NEVER developed ANY sorts attachment.
I don’t think he was either a Jedi or a padawan. I think he was a youngling. The force tricks we’ve seen are little beyond floating rocks-the level of things we’ve seen in youngling training scenes. Not his potential, but his learned skills. And the aphorisms he quotes are exactly the kind of thing children learn by rote when they’re being indoctrinated into their faith tradition, before they are old enough to wrestle with the deeper mysteries. He has a more practical understanding of being a Jedi than Win’s fantasies, without any of the spirituality of having actually been one.
I believe he is the son from Darth Sidious and Qira from Crimson Dawn, as was the plot in Star Wars Underworld. He Reys Dad with Omega from Bad Batch. What we see here is the Outward Bound programs in the Unknown Regions near Umbara, before the Rise of the Galactic First Order. That World we saw slagged was Finns Homeworld. Or hes Jaybi Hood from Clone Wars Grown up and Reys dad
Jude Law is in his 50s. He would have been roughly the same age as Anakin and Grogu. I think it's likely he.was a padawan and left the Order before the fall of the Republic. Or he was a knight and left at the time of Order 66. We have to remember that padawans were accelerated to knights during the Clone Wars.
I love that we have a new class of Star Wars characters that are kind of fake Jedi. It makes a lot of sense and it’s great for worldbuilding, I also love the direction which skeleton crew is going with Star Wars. Where do you see Star Wars going? Do you think they’ll continue series or do you think they’ll go back to movies. Also Do you think the series will be like what they have been recently or do you think they’ll change?
A force-sensitive scoundrel using the Jedi's philosophy against attachments as a way of justifying alienating and betraying others to look out for himself is such a fun idea for a character.
Ki-adi mundi would be a interesting pirate. He was not the most caring too say the least
@@chandansimms9167 His daughters he clearly cared for: "Bruh."
Could be Jod couldve been found by Asaaj Ventress or an ex-Sith or Inquisitor, and knows this twisted jedi wisdom. We have seen jedi scoundrels before, Kanan Jarrus and Cal Kestis, but they kept the teachings from their masters without being twisted.
Maybe Jod was a youngling who escaped the temple during order 66? Would explain his force abilities that are present but aren’t super developed
I wouldn't assume Jod is weak with the force. Mind control doesn't work on a group of people and public displays of the force is a good way to get hunted by inquisitors.
@ very true
I was joking with my friend that Jude Law was probably the kid who said “Master Skywalker, what are we going to do?”
I was thinking he was one of the other kids with Reva.
Something Star Wars has been adamant about is the idea the Jedi are in more peril the more there are in one place and they’ll never recover from always being annihilated but they keep introducing 10,000 new surviving original Jedi and their apprentices yet they miss the opportunity to tell a story about righteousness extending beyond the walls of the Jedi Temple and the Jedi being freed from the bonds of what was a literal form of slavery, not just spiritual, under their old masters and they still have their monastic duties and force sensitivity to give them purpose. Christians and Jews don’t give up when we’re hunted to almost total extinction. We can’t. We have to pick up the pieces every time we lose chain of command, moral legitimacy and sheer numbers.
The idea he was a padawan survivor would make a lot of sense for his character traits. A young person thrust into a survival situation that would last indefinitely when they were once safe can change them significantly.
What made me suspect Jod might be a padawan survivor of Order 66 early on is both his age lining up (assuming Jod is supposed to be somewhere in his 40s) and that he continues to show only the most basic Force abilities (levitation). With his apparent knowledge of Jedi proverbs on top of that, his being a padawan whose training ended prematurely would go a long way in explaining his entry level knowledge and skills.
The pearls of wisdom suggest rudimentary Jedi training at the very least, but the fact he barely uses the Force could even mean he was a padawan washout like Ventress was.
@@KryyssTVor a Youngling that was only taught the very basics
I believe he was self-taught. Probably just like Wim, he was a kid with dreams of traveling the galaxy. But unlike Wim, he grew up like Han Solo, probably stealing and conning his way to survive.
When his abilities started to manifest, I'm willing to bet someone recognized it and hoped to use the kid to their advantage. Maybe even gave the kid a sacred text of the Jedi salvaged (or stolen) from the ruins of the Jedi order.
And just like a kid who reads Marcus Arillius at night, or Plato during his free time, learning this philosophy helped him to grow up and not fear his abilities.
We have no idea what happened before he set out on his own, but he made a conscious decision that he was in charge of his life and that using his abilities in public was too dangerous. Not that he couldn't control his powers, but that the knowledge of the force could be exploited as a "commodity" for someone else.....say a band of pirates, for example?
Hidden away for many years, he only uses the force when it comes to his survival. And only if he has the ability to keep his secret safe.
I like how the author of Dune said he wanted to warn of the dangers of Messiahs and cults while in Star Wars the Republic Jedi were so immersed in it that it destroyed their order.
"Jedi Ted-Talk". had me rolling over laughing.
Jod was obviously of youngling or padawan during Order 66. He is now jaded, and rightly so. He has used his knowledge to survive a wild galaxy. To survive the Empire he had to hide among the worst of the worst. I love this character.
Yoda said being a Jedi was the deepest commitment .
Depending on when in the New Republic era this is, the Jod being an Order 66 youngling survivor theory seems most plausible, right? It would go to some length to explain his familiarity with Jedi expressions (such as those Yoda would have chanted during exercises with younglings), as well as the complexity of both selfishness and empathy in Jod; he can *sympathize* with Wim, having been a lost child at once, Force powers or not; but, having likely been largely on his own after surviving O66, it would follow that such a hard life would have its own lasting effects, as is the case with so many stories of such roguish characters.
Sincerely, thanks for the content during the holidays. You're a good man, with a good crew, and it's a gift for you to take time away from your personal life to make content like this. We'll never see eye to eye on the Jedi, but you're a grandmaster in my books.
Could be he doesn't celebrate Christmas or haunaka (no idea how to spell it), which is fine. Only 2 religions consider this time of year holy just saying. America has more than Christians and Jewish people.
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Surviving Order 66, and spending decades as a pirate.
I appreciate your videos. You actually have some intelligent, thoughtful discourse. I also apprreciate how your comment section isnt full of questionable fans who feel the need to tell everyone about how they hate Disney and refuse to watch it, etc.
I really appreciate your content as a political science student. It’s really refreshing to hear your takes, and I actually found a way to formally cite one of your videos on economics in a recent final!! Happy holidays, looking forward to the next ep!
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Thanks for being the only creator I'm subscribed to who is giving me thoughts on the latest episode. Not to disparage SC and NR, but you are my favorite. Happy Crisbn
The “I waited, and the force provided” quote reminds me of an old joke:
A man is hanging on to a floating branch in a flood and praying to be saved when a boat comes by to rescue him. He tells the rescuers that he won’t come with them, and he has faith God will save him. A little while later a helicopter flies overhead and a rescuer ropes down to save him. He once again tells the rescuers that he won’t go with them because he has faith God will save him. A short while later he drowns, and goes to heaven. He asks God why he didn’t save him, and God says, “I sent you a boat and a helicopter, what more could you want?”
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This show has been so good and episode 5 made it great. Andor will always have my heart, Season One of Mando will always be special, but THIS goes up there on the list too. Kids show? It's a GREAT show, period. And Jude Law now has one of the most interesting characters we've seen in the Star Wars galaxy we've seen in a long time.
Interesting that they dropped Dash as an alias since Dash Rendar is an obscure character from Shadows of the Empire. I wonder if all the other aliases he's known by are actually easter eggs for notable characters.
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Dude he may be the best Star Wars TH-camr of all time all things considered
I said something like this in a comment on another video I think Jod might've been a youngling, during order 66. Not a full blown Padawan. Everytime he quotes the Jedi, it always seems like a simplistic, child-like understanding of a faction he was involved in. Which contrasts to Wim's romanticizing the Jedi stories. Jod and Wim are probably extremely alike, and Jod was probably very much like Wim when he was a kid.
You're analysis is TNT. Awesome sauce.
2:03 it's like poetry..........
Damn it George you mad genius.
IMO he was a youngling survivor from the temple. So he got the initial blast of jedi indoctrination but he was traumatized for life by Anakin and is bearing scars of abandonment. He identifies with the kids, though (well, his arc is going to show that). This makes perfect narrative sense for the show.
I have a different take on the saying "Your focus determines your reality" quote. To me it speaks a bit of psychology theory: how you view a situation changes it or how you feel and act/react to it. Basically that your mood/perspective will affect how you see a situation. Changing your thought process can give you a different view or mindset to better deal with a situation. Like Yoda and Luke when trying to lift his x-wing out of the water, Yoda said Luke failed because he didn't believe he could. I don't think they mean you can manifest anything but how you view a situation can limit yourself in ways you are not aware of.
Jod is old enough to have been a youngling or padawan during the Clone Wars.
He's been in hiding since then which would explain the multiple aliases.
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Merry Christmas! Thanks for another neat talk on Star Wars.
Happy Holidays, Allen! Thanks for doing these videos for us!!
There were other force users outside of the Jedi and Sith. My personal theory is that he was a crimson guardsmen (the red robed guys who protected the emperor) or even an Emperor's hand.
oh i like that idea actually he might be scruffy but i can also see some military discipline in how he stands and carries himself
Connor Jax?
@@thestanleys3657Carnor Jax. It is possible.
This makes sense given that this takes place after the Empire fell and those who wore the red robes might have taken the skills and knowledge that they had as Imperial Guards and used it to make a living outside of the New Republic.
It would also explain his need to have all those identities, given that the New Republic was rounding up former Imperials.
I've never heard of force levitation always working ONLY when using your Index and Middle fingers... To me that's a weird red flag.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, Alan.
If you dont say happy Hanukah he might not like your comment... then again he doesn't care about those that celebrate Eid so 🤷♂ whatever man...
@@claudegrenier3180 Maybe I should throw in a Happy Festivus, the holiday for the rest of us?
Qui gon neeling just thinking
"Come on force, I'm gunna train ya son let me have this one"
It is such a fun and good show. I'm really enjoying it and that they're releasing it weekly rather than dropping it all at once to binge. It gives the watchers time to think and theorize. After this last episode, I've got a bit of an out-there theory: Tak Rennod was Jod Na Nawood's jedi master. As you mention in this video, Jod clearly knows a decent amount of jedi lore, so it is likely that he was a padawan, especially as he has some force abilities, albeit limited to telekinesis. I'd imagine his training was interrupted due to Order 66. We've seen that jedi are very aware of different lightsabers, so I think when they enter Tak's chamber, Jod recognizes that lightsaber as his master's. You can see throughout this scene Jod is a bit off. Then when he actually listens to Tak's log, it has Jod's full and complete attention, that he's listening intently on the voice of the person who killed his master. Jod has been very quick thinking up until now, but after listening to it, he stands and thinks for quite a while with a heavy weight on his shoulders. He's trying to process that his master managed to survive, but also turned to piracy, just as he did. The struggle between continuing as the baby sitter to the kids (the path of kindness) and embracing his previous piracy (the path of selfishness) is palpable. And this struggle continues as he challenges Fern, and tries so hard not to harm her. He gives her so many chances to yield illustrating that he doesn't want to completely abandon the path of kindness.
Maybe he came across a order 66 survivor and the survivor sensed he held some power in the force and maybe the Jedi tried too train him
If there's one thing I want out of a show, it's the Mantis crew being there. They wouldn't even have to be leading characters, they could be great supporting ones.
I think it would be interesting if Jod was kicked out of the order at a young age, sometime before Order 66
I would like to think Jod was in training to be a Jedi before Order 66 occurred. He would be the perfect foil to Whim as well since Whim looks up to the Jedi from his stories and if Jod was a padawan or reject padawan he would have reason for the Jedi aren't honorable as they seem to be
Merry Christmas!
Jod was the padawan of Baylan Skol.
Baylan's separation from the Jedi wasn't a cut or die thing, it was a gradual separation where Jod slowly took on the beliefs of his master. However, Jod himself didn't share the same cynicism and views of Baylan. Baylan held a much darker view of the Jedi and the galaxy as a whole. Baylan wanted more power and control of the force, Jod really just wanted to be a Jedi. He wanted and aspired to be all that Whim wishes he could have been.
The problem is Jod never saw things the way Baylan did and Baylan left Jod with the pirates and to fend for his own. By this time, both knew of Order 66 and knew being found out as a Jedi would be worth credits, so Jod hid himself from the force as well as hid the fact that he was a force user.
The result is the Jod we see today, calculating, manipulative, capable in the force but disconnected from it. He no longer shares the values of the Jedi, but he doesn't quite share the cynical beliefs nor the drive for power that Baylan has and is searching out.
This is why Baylan has such a young apprentice at the time of Asohka.
What's true, that he is Jod Na Nawood. That he is lost like them, full stop lmao. I like how they are building this character 👌
"Definitely not something a Jedi would say. Thats definitely something a Jedi that left the Order would say." ☠☠ True!
It is pretty clear he was once a Jedi or padawan and something happened during Order 66. Whether his master was killed or he escaped the temple. I am leaning toward the first. He reminds me of Kanan Jarrus. Age/type. Since Dave Filoni loves Plo Kloon, it would be cool if this was his padawan. He was waiting on the planet for Plo, but his clone troopers shot him out of the sky.
"Unidentified Padawan - Jedi Master Plo Koon's final apprentice of the Legends canon remains largely unidentified, and not much is known about the Padawan"
Gun slinger is an end game viable build in TSL. It does better against groups than a saberist, better against single targets than a lightning spammer. It sits comfortably between them, and since it relies on a guardian build its usually tanky enough to hold out against bosses much better than a lightning spammer.
My theory - Jod was found and trained by Assaj Ventress or either an ex-Sith or Inquisitor. Something about him feels like that was his background. Remember Jod and Kanan both have similar backgrounds, in which Kanan Jarrus was an ex pirate/scoundrel, he was found by a pirate and was taught pirating by the pirate who found him. Yet Kanan Jarrus maintained the wisdom and teachings of Master Bilabba. He was able to train Eztra with those teachings. But Jod shows that he knows the jedi teachings but they are twisted. I wont be surprised if he bled out that lightsaber that Wim found.
"in legends and canon lore."
You mean "in Disney canon and Lucas canon lore."
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The sister in Obi-Wan Kenobi was a child when Anakin came to kill the younglings. I think Jod is at least 10 years older than she. He either was a Padawan or he did not make it through the training of younglings because he could not adhere to the teachings.
Jod is a version of what quinlan voss would have been if his training was incomplete when the order was destroyed
Jod talking about attachments comes across as a hip young jedi camp councillor trying to get through to the kids.
Jod's parallel behaviors and sayings with Obi-Wan are too hard to ignore at this point. They probably wouldn't have the guts to come out and announce him as Obi-Wan and Satine Kryze's son, but the set up is there. The other possibility is that he's the youngling that they did the close up with when Anakin was sacking the Jedi Temple (maybe an attempt to redeem Anakin). Either way, if true, it would make Jod the only character in this series with a direct tie to the movies.
I want to see Cal Kestis in a future series meeting and treinning Jod in the Jedi ways!
I can’t figure out if I’m rooting for him or waiting to watch him lose. This show is delivering in leaps and bounds.
Jod mentions his home world being very "ashy" which suggests he was there long enough to enough to remember it. He probably wouldn't if he were taken by the Order. I'm starting to think he was just a randomf force sensitive that maybe found a Jedi temple much like Wimm was hoping to find at some point or found a stash of Holochrons with some starter lessons while pillaging as a young pirate. He probably vibed with some of those lessons as someone who was trying to be hard and tough to survive.
I’m not sure exactly where he’s from and I don’t think I’m ready to double down that he was a traditional Jedi padawan from coruscant, in episode 4 right when they landed on At achrin he said it reminded him of his home planet, meaning he has memories of his home planet. If he was taken as an infant like all the other members of the Jedi, he either has core memories from his infancy or he visited his home planet at some point later on… or he was introduced to the Jedi later? I’m not sure, there’s still too much mystery behind him I think.
The last episode made clearly for me that Jod was a padawan or youngling that survive the order 66, his idea of detachment is selfis, and not the way a Jedi understand, so probably he was a chield when this concept was taught.
I hope the reason why they don’t show Jod igniting the lightsaber at the end is not because he is going to bleed it red.
I’d like to see what happened to the younglings that weren’t chosen and ended up as farmers or other things on Jedi owned planets. People who just barely could use the force and had basic knowledge. How many of those kids became bitter and left?
Belated Merry Xmas to Alan and ppl in the comments.
I’m not sure we really know the extent of Jod’s force abilities. Besides, post Order 66, survival seems to have required disguising or interrupting one’s connection to the force. So there are several potential directions they might take the character…
Especially when the jedi exhiles you and forbids you to use the thing that makes you special
Seeing how he applies Jedi teaching is a neat but realistic spin on "a certain point of view" that gives Jod tragic depth. He feels like a good man gone wrong, like perhaps he was a Padawan that saw the fall of the Jedi, perhaps even witnessed Anakin's dark temple deeds, and was hardened and disillusioned thereby.
Wait…”your focus determines your reality” doesn’t have to be anything supernatural…it can just mean whatever you choose to give your attention will occupy your conscious mind, thereby becoming everything to you in those moments. The greater your ability to control and direct your attention, and to tune out distractions, the more enveloping the subject of your focus will be. Maybe they should say “your focus determines your reality in that moment.”
Ive been getting Qui Gon vibes from Jod since episode two. I bet he had a green saber if he made it that far.
Im thinking he's a 66 survivor and unlike Canin and Cal he used his force abilities like a lot of people probably would outside the order to enrich themselves
What about people who were around doing the time of the Jedi
Trust in the force
Trust in yourself
You will go far.
my bet is he either was actually schooled by some jedi, or found some training materials, maybe a holocron?
timeline is quite against him being youngling of the order 66 era, but maybe he is older than he looks?
What if some species already have force similar power like telepathy or can simulate the future. And the. Individual has strong force powers
A Jedi from the Early High Republic that was put into Cryo sleep and woke up after the fall of the Empire and wakes up to the Jedi being murdered.
Makes his way as a pirate..
Maybe he was a Padawan and he was asked to leave like the afternoon of Order 66 because he was not as strong with the force at that time. He was a believer and his Jedi Master was a little greyish Jedi. Then after what the Empire started about the Jedi he started to "get lost" so to survive. He might be able to do the equivalent of like a youngling force ability.
6:29 "Most people thought the Jedi were a myth" -- I've never really understood how this can be. Even when Star Wars first came out, characters who were old enough to have had kids of their own when the Empire seized power are all dismissive and doubting of the mere existence of a Jedi "cult" -- and it was just a couple of decades ago, from their perspective, not nearly long enough for the Emperor's efforts to wash them from history to be effective. I could understand it if it were just characters from some random backwater world that rarely had contact with the rest of the galaxy... but these are characters from Core Worlds, like Coruscant and Alderaan, worlds where people are informed and involved in the modern politics and events of the Star Wars galaxy.
The Jedi and the Sith existed for tens of millennia as organizations -- they waged multiple wars across the known galaxy, wars that left entire planets in ruins. The Jedi were the go-to diplomatic option for dozens of worlds (even the Hutts!) when the Old Republic had it's xenophobic "Republic First" phase and wiped out entire planets of non-human sentient life. They became the SWAT of the galaxy in terms of law enforcement and peacekeeping as the Old Republic matured. And just before the Empire, they were the equivalent of Special Forces for the Republic, conducting peacekeeping operations on multiple worlds and leading entire armies into battle. They've never tried to hide their existence -- they even live in some of the most prominent and respected territory on Coruscant.
There's just no way the galaxy at large would see them as a fabricated myth -- that's like us saying the Pope and the Catholic Church doesn't exist, that the whole thing is just a story told to frighten children. I've never met the Pope -- I've never even seen a nun in that traditional outfit -- but I don't doubt they exist, that they are real people doing real things for the past 2,000 years. So why do so many Star Wars characters doubt the existence of the Jedi?
Jod is actually Yon-Rogg from The Kree making this the first official SW/MCU crossover.
That would explain how he levitated things....he was using his knee gravity gauntlets! Lol
Tongue-in-cheek as this suggestion may appear on its face, I mean it with the utmost sincerity, you could compile an entire treatise (video?) on Critical Force Theory. You've already got the beginnings spread out in your catalogue, notably (but not exclusively) for the Jedi. A comprehensive interpretation on the malignant effects (intentional or otherwise) by supremacy of any such repressive societal organization might serve as much as a parallel for humanity's problems, despite best efforts and intentions, as much as because of one based on fear, hatred, and passion.
Redemption and reunification.
For Jod: We are either gonna see Ahsoka, or Luke (or one of his "new jedi order" disciples).
For At Attin: They will be rediscovered and reabsorbed by the New Republic.
For the kids: They will likely go into service of the New Republic, if not on At Attin, then elsewhere. Wistfully remembering their shared adventure, as the become desk jockeys in a financial mainframe.
Imagine being taken from your family to become a Jedi, but the Jedi either fail you or fall. Jod’s is using the teaching to cope. “Parents, bah, they’ll just slow you down.” It’s easier for him to rationalize in this manner than face his sadness and loneliness.
… is what I would argue. But who knows. I’m not even convinced he’s a Jedi padawan/youngling or even has real force powers.
Let’s not forget we saw in the Acolyte that the Jedi did actually see the force sensitive children as their entitlement. And Brendok wasn’t even part of the republic. That’s the equivalent of the French police walking into my home in uk saying they have divine right to access to my children.
“Listen mate, you can do all the sorcery you like but like, hell will you be going near my kids”. And ended the series mopping up “for the greater good”.
Personally I don’t think the order should have allied itself to anyone, I think Qui Gon thought it too. They couldn’t serve two masters, the force and the republic. (Or three seeing as they were all technically sith puppets).
Edit- yoda explained the principles of attachment but probably shouldn’t have been their go to for that.
i think Jod was a padawan when order 66 hit and he was able to escape and some pirates found him or he found them and he stayed with them to remain hidden from order 66 :)and that is why he says that he is alone and lost like them because he has technically no one to trust exept him self
he's right, not leaving a man behind is a clone trooper thing not a Jedi thing
Fern must've mixed em up
You don't trust people with magical powers... I understand. Always remember that a magical power will save your life.
Jod was Wim at the same age, and their stories are meant to mirror each other. In the Jedi, Wim sees adventure and escape from a system that seeks to determine his future. For Jod the Jedi were that system. That’s why he tells Wim to find his own path. I think Jod chose to leave the Jedi training, and Wim will be faced with a choice to stay or leave At Attin.
He’s a fallen Jedi who doesn’t follow the code anymore and/or doesn’t remember everything he was taught as it’s been at least 20+ years since Order 66 and The Jedi Purge. I’m just you know.
Remember the old republic MMO movie clips showing us not all force sensitive children are taken by the Jedi...
these individuals may have just trained themselves using the force... I think the galaxy will be more interesting by telling stories about individuals who possesses the force but doesn't necessarily have to be a sith or jedi
Like if one is gifted they're just good at it
like many fotballers who has the skill but not the training to become good fotballers in the world stage
They just did not have the chance to shine
Gonna call it, he was force sensitive youngling growing up in the temple and was going to be Obiwan's Kenobi's padawan if order 66 hadn't happened...
If it wasn't for Jod being too young for it, I'd almost want to believe that he's supposed to be Rael Aveross, Count Dooku's apprentice before Qui-gon. It'd make sense why he said, word for word, the same thing as Qui-gon, Rael was always flirting (pun intended) with the rules of the Jedi Order and his final fate is unknown.
They could get around him being too young by saying he got frozen in carbonite at some point I guess but I doubt they'd actually end up doing that
It seems freezing someone in carbonite is common enough by Mandos time but it was fairly new in empire.
Legends has a cult of pirates that use the force Jedi that left the order
A bit like mature Asajj Ventress, then? Minus the skills, personality, or interesting life experiences that got her there.
Nah. He's probably simply a Force sensitive dolphin plant.
He was a padawan like Kanan who escaped during order 66. His age would fit the timeline
If the republic jedi taught the order to deal with negative emotions rather than flat out deny them the sith might not have risen
He was raised by Force dolphins 🐬
You need to review Buckheads. Episode 3 finally dropped after a 2 year production. VERY ANDOR
Is his “crimson” name a link to Maul?
My theory is he either is some kinda see secret Jedi Survivor kinda thing OR he strongly admires quite a lot centered around their teachings and or philosophies
Some ARE dumb though. Like... CAN you TRULY Love someone or thing IF you NEVER developed ANY sorts attachment.
I don’t think he was either a Jedi or a padawan. I think he was a youngling. The force tricks we’ve seen are little beyond floating rocks-the level of things we’ve seen in youngling training scenes. Not his potential, but his learned skills. And the aphorisms he quotes are exactly the kind of thing children learn by rote when they’re being indoctrinated into their faith tradition, before they are old enough to wrestle with the deeper mysteries.
He has a more practical understanding of being a Jedi than Win’s fantasies, without any of the spirituality of having actually been one.
Either an order 66 survivor or a rejected youngling as Jod does have at least some jedi knowledge
At least Jod is not quoting Boondocks Saints.
I believe he is the son from Darth Sidious and Qira from Crimson Dawn, as was the plot in Star Wars Underworld. He Reys Dad with Omega from Bad Batch. What we see here is the Outward Bound programs in the Unknown Regions near Umbara, before the Rise of the Galactic First Order. That World we saw slagged was Finns Homeworld.
Or hes Jaybi Hood from Clone Wars Grown up and Reys dad
Jude Law is in his 50s. He would have been roughly the same age as Anakin and Grogu. I think it's likely he.was a padawan and left the Order before the fall of the Republic. Or he was a knight and left at the time of Order 66. We have to remember that padawans were accelerated to knights during the Clone Wars.
I think he had a Jedi parent.
I love that we have a new class of Star Wars characters that are kind of fake Jedi. It makes a lot of sense and it’s great for worldbuilding, I also love the direction which skeleton crew is going with Star Wars. Where do you see Star Wars going? Do you think they’ll continue series or do you think they’ll go back to movies. Also Do you think the series will be like what they have been recently or do you think they’ll change?