2021 CFMoto 650NK | Good Value Naked Or Just Cheap Copy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Bikes, quads, ATV, UTV and more, I talk about CFMoto and how long they've been around.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:30 Powertrain
3:56 Chassis
5:42 Ergonomics
6:44 Controls & Display
8:30 Worth The Money
10:25 New 800 ADV Bike - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I'm a beginner rider and I have one of these. I have nothing to compare it to but I absolutely love it!! 😀
I feel we can do all the research and read all the opinions but the first bike we get will always have a special place in our hearts
CFMoto came to Australia in 2005. They have proven to be a good entry & reliable model here.👍🏼 The adventure bike coming would be worth a look Scott.🇦🇺
There one other thing that comes into play here in the late summer of 2022 - I walked into my dealership and they had these in stock and ready to deliver. I was looking for a Japanese bike, but they are like unicorns this summer. Unless you pre-ordered one last winter, there just haven't been many to choose from. For my Son's first bike, this has been outstanding.
Such a great format. Lots of comparison to every bike in the range. Performance, price, weight, and all the stuff that matters.
Wow, if ever there was a bike with nothing to prove, this is it! LOL about the short supermodel! Thanks for another great review, Scott!
I have a 2015 model, only put oil, tires, and chain/sprocket on it in 20k miles... Been a great bike so far.
Great honest review Scott. 👍
Appreciate your honest review. Very good work.
A great candid video review. Not sure why you received a few dislikes. I guess the price you pay for honest and transparent reviews. Cheers!
Thanks for reviewing more of "unknown" models. Personally, I would still pay a thousand more and get a SV650 (or some other from that budget list, reliables), having more fun and less weight.
Fully agree. The SV is overall a better choice at a very comparable price. And since a 650 bike is probably gonna be a first one and definitely not the last, easy of reselling should factor in as well, which the SV got in spades.
Yeah totally agree, nowhere near cheap enough for a spec this bad and usual Chinese build quality.
I actually just bought one of the adventure versions of this bike. I have owned a dozen bikes over the last 25 years and can tell you that these chinese bikes are nothing like they were 20 years ago. The same motor in this is in KTMs and Kawasakis. Paying for a name can sometimes mean better quality but when the name brands outsource to these guys and all they do is throw different names in the same bike, I would rather save some. I saved over 4 grand getting one of these i stead of the kawasaki and couldnt be happier. Runs like a top and will do 100 mph all day long which will get you a ticket in every state lol
An excellent review as usual👍👍👍👍
I owned a 2020 benelli leoncino 500, which is built in China and it was a brilliant bike done 35,000km on it and never had a problem, Chinese aren't as bad as they used to be, another 5-10yers I guarantee there going to take over, sure the Honda cb500x is made in Thailand like most bikes from big manufacturers.
In Australia the CFMoto 650NK is about AU$6K cheaper than a Kawasaki Z650 . A new CFMoto 650NK costs you about AU$6.5K and a new Kawasaki Z650 about AU$12.5K. Of course the z650 is superior BUT, in my opinion, the CFMoto is half price, and it's not that bad.
Totally agree mate, I have the 2020 650nk , and I love itC it’s budget friendly and has more than enough power plus I can’t justify paying 13k for a name brand bike with a few extra hp
The new Cfmoto 700 CL-X beats the pants off this model.
Thanks for reviewing some budget bikes! Much more attainable for the masses. And I'm curious to see over the next few years how the Chinese bikes improve in quality!
I owned a Chinese atv about 10 years a go and it seems like the quality has improved little to none. I wouldn't hold your breath.
Thank you for your honest, fair review of this bike, Scott. Could you make a review of 700 CL-X Heritage?, Perhaps that is the best model CF Moto can offer right now.
Great review. Cheers 👌
Yeah in the current market for middleweight/beginner naked bike this is pushed out by the other brands that do cost a bit more but deliver a lot more.
If this was 4K it might be a nicer idea but even still I would pass on it. I think a bit too much was left on the table in development of this bike.
I hope they can improve but for now I doubt they will make a lot of waves with this bike on the market. I appreciate the feature and you giving it a fair go.
Interesting music choice at the end there Scott :)
🤣🤣 Yea, I was hoping for a bike that can compete with the 5 others in this group but sadly it fell short by a long shot, hence the song 🤣🤣😁
take care,
Scott
In China, the price difference between 650NK and Z650 is nearly doubled, so Chinese people choose CFMOTO as a cost-effective choice. I am very happy that friends all over the world can appreciate the charm of CFMOTO. Of course, it still needs more time to grow.
Been three months since this, and I'm getting NtP withdrawal! I hope all is still well with your and yours Scott.
Good honest review, I've ridden one two. Curious to know, did you find the suspension abit ruff and choppy? I couldn't see this bike being a long range tourer. 😅
Yea, ditto, found a lot of things that I didn't talk about cause then guys would say I'm a "Chinese hater". I tried to look at it objectively and honestly at the same time, it was hard to do. 20 years ago this was a great bike, today, if the Japanese came out with this they'd get laughed at but since it's from China, everyone expects less. 🙄
Honest review Scott! That’s exactly what young & new riders, those that don’t have a fortune to spend because of circumstances, then these aren’t too bad. As similar to the Japanese & Koreans long ago, don’t discount them in time…🚀
I disagree. I think a bike this bad will turn off more people. Especially considering that you can get so much more for only a little bit more money.
@@MercilessGuitar151sounde like you just making stuff up. Bad how? Where is your proof?
Love your reviews. Can you review Interceptor 650.
Nice video.. when you gonna test ride Cfmoto Clx 700? Like to see the difference between the two (Nk 650 and Clx 700)
Thank you! Not sure yet when I will get a chance to do it (probably early spring) but when it get's in, I'll be on it that's for sure :)
Thanks so much for the video! Just got a 22. I was certainly skeptical, but I couldn't pass it up, as the dealer near me was blowing out the new old stock at 3,999 usd. My other bike is a 02 Kawasaki Vulcan 750. I just wanted something sporty to raise hell with on my way to work. The cfmoto 650nk seemed it might fit the bill. It has 6 less hp than the vulcan, but a couple pounds lighter (seriously only a couple pounds lighter than the vulcan) After cruising around at low speeds for 100s of miles for break-in. I am a little bit saddened to say that the old Kaw is a good bit quicker. 😢 and maybe even more stable at high speeds. Don't know how it happens that an, almost chopper, designed in 1986, is more stable (feeling) at speed, than a 2022 "sport bike"
Scott, plz review & test ride the: 2022 / 21 CFMoto 700 CL-X.
Thanks for your review of: 13K of bmw f900xr. Great videos.
Good honest review. I can not see a reason in the world to buy that bike. If you have limited cash, buy a used Z650 or SV650. I find it odd that it has a higher compression ratio but less power and torque than the Kawasaki. That must be all about achieving Euro 5 certification with an inferior fuel injection system and other electronic engine management components.
Yep and also decreased reliability and long gevity.
I live in the U.S and I own a 2015 cfmoto 650nk here the specs read 65hp and 42ft/lbs of torque idk what you guy's over in europe have i guess the LAMS bike or whatever it is called but here in the states it's only a little less hp than the Kawasaki z650,Ninja 650 and the er6n so the power is great i have road both the Kawasaki's and my 650nk and you can't even tell them apart it's only a couple hp like 3hp i believe so idk.....
Hey, Scott! Greetings from Texas! Where've you been? Hoping all is well. I enjoy your unique perspective on bikes, but I miss your jovial and easy-going nature.
Hello and greetings from Germany! I am doing well and staying inside where it's warm and dry. Right now in northern Germany all the dealers that I work with don't have bike licensed to ride so I'm waiting to get going soon, hopefully this month, to start riding again but it's a hit and miss with the weather. Ice and snow are serious problems on two wheels 😁
take care,
Scott
not to exited in this video :) .. great honoust review once again
Thank you. Yea, I really wanted to like this bike but... 😒🙄🙁
THANKTHANKYOU
Nice and honest review! The Chinese are coming closer, but still not enough to touch many buyers. Another couple of years and they will... Thanks Scott!
Could you review the cfmoto 700 cl-x Sport, please if possible. Please and thank you
Scott, plz make that review of the CF Moto 700 CL-X Heritage
----- not the Sport version.
Thanks again.
Yep, I plan on it as soon as the dealership gets one. :)
We miss your videos. Hope everything is alright!
Thank you for your concern. Yes, everythings ok, riding season is over and it's cold here now and there is just no bikes availible to ride. Hope to do the Suzuki GSX-S1000GT in the next week or two.
ride safe,
Scott
I AM on the market for a new first bike , i was planing to buy benelli trk . But the new cb500x 2022 was annaunced and they got me with the new front. I can spend more on that bike now, it looks great and i hear you cant go wrong with cb500x
Hi Scott, how are you? Haven't been hearing or seeing from you since three month's and I wonder... Miss your fantastic review's!
Thank you! Yea, it's cold and wet outside right now, plus no bikes to ride. Hope to ride one in the next week or two :)
@@NothingToProve Thank U2! Looking forward to it, lots of nice new bikes to review, aren't there? The Tuareg, the Norden, the new 1200 Tiger! But I know what you mean here in The Netherlands it's sh*tty weather too. In november I traded in my R1200RS and my G650XC together for an as-good-as-new F850GS but I could hardly try it out up to now 😞 Keep the faith, Scott!
Is the price includes the taxes? I know that in Europe taxes are built in into the price (unlike the US).
Yep!
So in NZ we can get the CFMoto 650K for $7,890 and $11,995 for the Kawasaki Z650 that he references and because the depower the Kawasaki for the LAMS market here both bikes provide more or less the same power. What's the value proposition now?
Sounds like the NZ Govt. is charging a huge import tax amount for the Japanese bikes and not doing the same for the Chinese bikes. Hmm...should be the other way around considering the current conflicts going on right now with these authoritarian govts. Here in Germany the Z650 is just 1k more than this and I'll pay the 1k more cause it's well worth it in just resale value alone, little alone fit & finish, refinement, part availability...etc. But for you, 4k more...hmm, yea na.
take care down there, enjoy your summer, it's gettin' cold up here now, 😥
I don‘t know if the prices for this at the time the video came out were this high or they are just in the area the review was made.
Since I found out about this brand a couple weeks back and started researching this bike, I learned the MSRP on the Cf Moto website is 5500€ and also you can find several dealers throughout Germany who sell it for 4995€.
Next week I have an appointment to test drive it, I‘m excited.
Some dealerships even sell the showroom and test drive units for 3900 with only a couple hundred km. So that‘s definitely a steal…
What about Benelli? Maybe you can review a bike from them if you get the chance. :)
Cheers
I think a good alternative for a beginner on budget is the Honda 500 with almost the same power.
Or a used sv650 or used z650. So much more bike for a similar amount of money.
Hello Scott, are you going to review the HD Pan america in the upcoming time? Like to see you review that.
Thank you. Probably not. I don't have a relationship with a HD dealer. :(
@@NothingToProve You okay Scott? Long time no video’s.
@@robato28 Winter. 😒😒
I hope they release this version in the Philippines
Its seems the easiest to shift since it has more distance in between the shifter and foot pedal
Isn't the gt under embargo?
I mean this is gen 1. An impressive first outing all things considered, interested in how they will evolve as a brand.
This is a Gen 2 650nk. The Gen 1 was sold alongside the 650tr tourer. The Gen 2 has been out for at least 2 years and sold alongside the mt and gt.
Considering the knowledge and technology available today, I have to disagree. I think this is a poor first try.
Hi, have you tried any of the newer cf moto 650nk ? Like the 2023 ?
Nope, not yet.
Any plans of testing one? Only if you have time or the means ? I do like them and also my budget likes them.
Here in the UK they start from £4500 with 4 years warranty and road side assistance.
I love the look of the 700 cl-x but you can buy a new sv650 under £6000 if you look on eBay. 🤔
They've done ok at the isle of man tt
I payed $5999aud ( 3700euro ) brand new for my 2015 gen2 650nk so yes the 5900euro you are being charged is terrible as that's $9700aud as of today !!!
Todays price of the same bike a 2022 is only $6160aud here in Australia , so yes you are being screwed on price over there as that is only 3808 euro ! over 50% over priced !
Mine has done 70k and with regular maintaince has not missed a beat , still going strong and de-restricted to 70+ hp so is no slouch .
I also changed the brake pads to quality Australian ones and what a huge difference !!! better feel and no horrible black dust everywhere !
Thanks for this review. You’d have to be out of your mind to buy one of these new instead of a used SV650. Chinese pot metal.
Hope you are keeping well, not heard anything from you for a while 😕.
Thank you. Yea, no bikes to ride at the moment plus it's cold and wet out side. So, I'm staying inside where it's warm and dry. :)
to even peek at a CN bike, it would have to be 1/3 of the price as the comp. we have a couple CN bike, gokart, atv shops i took my kid to look at a go kart. all the stuff in there was just complete junk.
This is the best break-down I've seen of the CF Moto 650 compared to the others. You're going to pay more in gas, it's heavy, shifting is clunky, lower horsepower, suspension not great. You really get what you pay for, it really is a budget Chinese motorcycle but it's nice to see the quality is improving. Has to be better than Hyosung. I remember seeing a bunch of Hyosung riders riding around with an error code on the dash with the speedometer not even working and that was the least of the problems.
Good to shift if you have big feet
I only buy Japanese bikes and I think the Chinese bikes like cfmoto will catch up with the Japanese motorcycles in the next 5 to 10 years , but in saying that I am tempted to buy a second hand one because they are a lot cheaper than their Japanese counterparts
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56hp idk where you live but here in the U.S the 650nk the spec's read 65hp you must live Europe and have the LAMS version that one has 56hp but every where else get's the regular 65hp version...
this engine WAS 71hp, than was tuned down to 62hp for nazi euro4 regulations, than tuned down again to 56hp for nazi euro5 regulations, and this is it.
This looks like a copy of the ER6N all over again. that would explain the heavy frame weight
Yep it is exactly.
I felt your opening remarks may of put you on the back foot?
LOL! The whole bike "put me on the back foot" 😥😥
Dealer near me has been selling these. I own both honda and kawasaki. I wouldn't ride this if its the last bike on earth. Thanks for informative review 👍
I would wait a bit and save another 1500 and get anyone of the rest.
Also, a used MT07/SV650... will be better.
I do clutchless. Don't need a clunky transmission
Still too expensive for what it is.
It's only missing cruise control.
Where’d you go?
North Pole. 😁🤣
Seriously, there are literally no bikes available for me to ride right now. 😥😒
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve You could do a review on Santa’s sleigh!
No new videos Scott?
No bikes to ride :( Besides it's cold and wet outside, I'm staying inside where it's warm and dry :)
take care,
Scott
P.S. Give it a few weeks and I'll be back up to speed again.
Yes Chinese motorcycles still have a way to go to reach the quality of the others. Agree that it's better to pay more for quality.
Wann kommt neuer Content???
Soon, I hope. Thanks for asking.
take care,
Scott
Where are you at boy?
Inside where it's warm and dry :)
Congrats for your reliable thoughts!
Let me comment on this bike and say it is made in China and proves it! If it were a little bit less expensive it could give an alternative, but for just a grant… No
Lmao reliable thought's what the hell....
Where is the new content man? Don't disappear on us
it's cold here...I'm stayin' nice and warm inside :)
Man if the Z400 was only a grand more here that would be WAY better... Sadly The 650NK is $8999AU and the Z400 is $12-13k...
You still got ya channel Scott? Seems this is your last vlog till now nothing more 🤨
Yea, it's winter now, I'll be back soon 😁👍
The bike is Chinese. No Go here. Just another Junk Bike!
Great video Scot!!
🙌👏👏👏👍☝🤙🤘✌👌🖖✋🖐😊
Thanks 👍
well thx for talking me out of buying lol
imo for this money you can get a much better used bike
U under 650cc I should say
I think I'll just get a Royal Enfield for my budget road bike. Similar specs with none of the tech or squid ergos-actual quality machine though as far as mechanisms and build.
You look... high 😂
duuuudde....so do you, pass me another one 🤣
@@NothingToProve 😂 cool guy!
700CL-X is a much better bike
I would sell a kidney and spend an extra 1,800 and get the Honda CB650R or if you want a quality budget bike get a Royal Enfield Interceptor.
Very difficult for this brand to get recognize with all those european and japanese monsters out there...
Yea, it'll take some time before they are up to speed.
Not my cup of tea CF😜😜😜
I'm sorry to say, but with today's knowledge of engineering and the technology available, they should have done better, especially for the price. A poor first outing and a bike that I would recommend noobs run away from.
CF 800 ADV is heavy and not worth it.
Chinese people they work very Hard they would die if they heard all those un approval s about this
Underpowered and made in China. No thanks.