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- How Debbie Made Addams Family Values EVEN GAYER || When it comes to The Addams Family, Debbie Jellinsky -- aka The Black Widow -- became a beloved addition in 1993’s Addams Family Values, especially among Addams Family Values’ queer fans. But Addams Family Values already had a large queer following and a hidden message supporting the LGBTQ+ community within its story, with both Diva Worship and the camp surrounding Debbie’s character only adding to it. So how does Debbie’s role in Addams Family Values make the queer perspective of the film even more obvious?
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00:00 Intro
04:04 Why Addams Family Values?
10:28 What About Debbie?
17:21 She Could’ve Had It All
21:19 Conclusion
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No, but I too have the Thanksgiving revolt engraved in my brain.
For me, not engraved - never watched these movies that much back in the day - but it is still stuck in there, just with details smudged. Not living rent-free, but does have a permanent P.O. box.
Eat me! It's thanksgiving day. *singing along*
As an indigenous woman that Thanksgiving revolt gave me several insults and one liners to throw at annoying classmates 🤣🤣
Good movies
Has anyone ever told you that you have a similar cadence to Quinton reviews? Kinda neat. Kinda random. Love your videos friend
the fact that they still buried her in the family cemetery means that even after everything they still considered her an Addams. She kinda got what she wanted in the end
She tried to kill them and was a serial killer, of course they adored her lmao
omfg I never thought of that! That was so addams. It makes sense to do even if it's possible the directors might have just done it for the gag.
They are good, decent people
I thought it was just a way for them to hide the body.
@@no_peace Good decent people? The children literally killed and buried animals alive.
my whole body cheered when Morticia said, "but Debbie, pastels?" so glad you had it here!
I HAD to! I had my fingers crossed during the uploading process, because I didn't want it to get copyright struck! LMAO
@@Readus101 iChuckle. that line is everything!
""THEY DRIVE A BUICK!"
Me too!
Morticia see's Debbie and what her long game is - taking financial advantage of Fester - And Morticia respects perhaps even likes her for it. But her style choices? Morticia was just not putting up with that.
there's something interesting in debbie being very addams-like but rejecting it for "normalcy" vs. margaret alford being "normal" but becoming more happy as an addams & with cousin it
I was glad she got her happy ending she seemed fairly chill for the most part even having a hairy little What of her own!
the anti debbie :0
it's very "heteronormativity vs open exploration of identity" for sure!
Morticia: "Malibu Barbie"
Gomez: "the nightmare!"
Morticia: "the nerve!"
Me: The AUDACITY
“ THAT WASN’T WHO I WAS! I WAS A BALLERINA! GRACEFUL, DELICATE! THEY HAD TO GO! “
For me it seemed like they really meant it too.... Like they validated her feelings. That something that seems small to others could really be that big to someone else
Every time I audition for comedy I use her soliloquy at the end of the movie. I Stan.
@@gemgirl2000 lucky!
I never knew “Adam’s family values” was a direct response to “traditional family values.” It is so obvious in retrospect but gives me a renewed love for this movie.
I love that the Addams family can be seen through different lenses. I watched this movie as a child from Hispanic immigrant parent and I always felt that Gomez Addams was Hispanic (Considering Raul Julia was Puerto Rican) and his family was a mixed cultured family, and that even though they don't fully blend in into the white heteronormativity, they are a loving and caring family that didn't care what people had to say about them. So when they cast Luis Guzman as the new Gomez it made me excited (and validated) as all hell.
Welp his name is Gomez honestly pretty sure my whole family assumed he was Latino too
Yaaaaaaas @Attivian I feel you bc I’m Hispanic, too and we’re barely getting more representation now
frankly Luis looks so much more like the original comic drawings of Gomez than ANY of the previous live action actors.
@@Margatatials true but they really did him dirty with that hair tho 😂
@@fantasticesther it was the 30's so it was probably more fashionable at the time.
Honestly, she's the Wild Card that the Addams Family needed to shake things up. Joan Cusack was hilarious and memorable as Debbie. She's the reason that's my favorite Addams Family movie.
Joan Cusack is an absolute legend.
The reason"Addams Family Values"is my fav Addams movie is Wednesday 😎🖤,but Debbie is a close 2nd.👑💖
It’s interesting the dichotomy between Morticia and Debbie when it comes to diva worship. Where Debbie is one we might worship , Morticia is one we’d go to the ends of the world with
I'll be honest, that subtext flew right over my head while I understood what was going on in the summer camp plot to a point. And then there's Debbie - I was very much in the thought that if she just embraced the family, she would have what she always wanted, and yes that would be a deranged serial killer but in the Addams? That's just Sunday afternoon.
The Addams' family loved her and she fit so well!
I watched Values for the first time in ages a couple years ago and I realized that I missed a LOT of the subtext of the camp plot simply because I didn’t realize _how_ Joel was different.
As a kid, I thought Joel was different because he had brown hair and was a nerd. I liked him because I was nerdy and awkward too.
It never even dawned on me that he was Jewish, nor that he was being treated badly because of it.
I watched it as an adult and it was like watching a whole new movie. I loved it as a kid, but as an adult, there was just so much more depth to it because I’d understand so little except “people that are different (represented by brunettes) get treated badly by those in power (represented by blondes), and Wednesday is a badass.”
Now I get so much more subtext and also, Wednesday is still a badass.
Grandma's line, "but what about Debbie?" is, to me, one of the funniest things in the history of cinema. The way Carrol Kane delivers it so sincerely is something I will randomly think about in my daily life and need to stop everything and laugh my ass off over for a few minutes.
For me it's: "Lurch, was she in the cake before you baked?"
Laugh everytime
Yes! But what about Debbie is also my favorite line that I still use to this day and no one ever had any idea who or what I am referring to...but I know, and that's enough for me.
I relate to Wednesday so hard during the play scene mostly because when I was a kid I would refuse to participate in anything musical or play related. Unfortunately I turned into a theatre kid in middle school.
Its like Star Wars. This was your destiny! (LOL!!!)
We’re not saying Wednesday Addams made us queer…but we’re not not saying it…
Saaaaaame sis
@@gingerkid1048 she is the reason I'm into goth girls man
It's not just queerness that I think this film appealed to or appeals to it's the overall inclusion of the "unique" population. I'm neurodivergent (autism and adhd) and watching the film as an adult further encouraged me that it's totally ok to be "different". As a child I was often picked on for being REALLY nerdy and I became a recluse who loved to read books during lunch rather than eat with other people. I also grew up in the 90's and could especially relate to Wednesday's character cause she was odd and quirky like myself.
Also I find it funny when the baby became "sick" he was blonde and blue eyed like the heterosexual norm at the time 🤣
What I love about the Addams is that they respect normalcy if the normalcy respect them, like Cousin It's wife or Wednesday nerdy friend. They aren't supernatural monsters, just normal people that saw the Addams as a good loving family and wanted to be a part of them and the Addams let them belong.
The Addamses are really the healthiest family anywhere
"give me a kiss." "give me a 20$ 🤨"
iconic.
The 90's Addams Family movies were couples goals SO HARD. They were so in love with each other every moment and didn't give a damn what anyone else thought about them!
"but Debbie...Pastels?" Damn that was a Morticia Burn!!! 🔥 🔥 🔥
Literally Joan KILLED in this film. (Acting and spouses) As a child I thought she was so glamorous and I kinda rooted for her? I wished she joined the clan and was a murderous aunt. The camp home decor, festers make over and heart apron. The girl was in bed watching a doc, eating chocolate and slept in her heels and pearls 👏🏻 if that ain’t me? Also Tiff from bride of Chucky, same vibe. Anyway I’m gay now so thanks?
As an 80s baby I was old enough to watch this in theater…it felt so good to be seen given I was already a preteen goth pansexual. The heavy theme of outcasts loving themselves/each other and spurning conformity was JUST what I needed. Debbie was just such a glorious scenery chewing performance. Joan Cusack has always been so under celebrated for her impeccable timing. I adored the tragedy of the Addams’ the one family who could have accepted and given her the love she needed. I also spent my 20’s using her delivery for Malibu when ordering that & pineapple juice then bonding with the gay bartenders who caught the reference. So many good memories associated with it. I’m cautiously optimistic about the Wednesday series and look forward to all the opinions.
@@zerotodona1495 every term is made up, genius
@@zerotodona1495 just because there wasn’t a term for it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. Some people don’t care where the person who draws their attraction falls on the gender spectrum.
Damn. That's apt. She started down this path because she got "Malibu barby" and ended up resembling a Cynthia doll owned by Angelica pickles
Maybe there is something you can say about her self loathing. She became what 'she hated, what society' said was good and hated life. She murdered because she was unhappy.
Debbie would’ve been so loved in that family if she didn’t break the most important Addams rule: Never mess with family 😔
at least they buried her with the other dead family members, it's an honor really
Nono. It was pastels. The going after family is expected
They probably was honored to be killed. I’ll try to be killed by her, so it was nice of them to bury her with the family because she was a Addams.
You as a child in a fisher price play house screaming “damn you adams” sounds hilarious
Debbie trying to pretend she’s mourning, and ending up cackling is a key part of my childhood. hahahaha
huh, no wonder my personality is the way it is lmao. this movie is one of my childhood treasures. debbie was my favorite immediately upon watching. great work!⭐️
Family Values honestly was always the best out of the two- and yes a lot of that is due to Joan's Debbie character, but it also the huge middle finger to the 90s white upper aesthetic that was being shoved down our throats at the time.
I want to read an AU fic where Debbie did love Fester, did accept the Addams, and just stayed a serial killer, with the Addams' mansion as her Murderworld LMAO
Love and Jewelry by Barid (Finale) on AO3 is really good!! I wish it expanded on her being a serial killer AND keeping her pastels like Margaret does, but it’s really really cute
Omg, I now need to have that fic
@@violeta3555 That one is one of the best fics in the whole category, very glad to see it out in the wild :D
yes! and for an au, honestly, her trying to kill fester while being madly in love with him would be fun. like it’s their way of showing love. til death do us part, but he never dies 😁 and she can cheer that he defeated death once again just to be with her
@@sleepy.timaeus.arts. that kind of weird wholesomeness could actually give Gomez and Morticia a run for their money-and that’s no small feat.
My favorite lines from the movie were” Is that your bathing suit?””is that your overbite?”😂
"I'll be the victim!"
"All your life."
@@reikun86 This might be one of my favourite film lines ever.
@@beautifulmidnight There’s a lot of great lines in Addams Family Values.
@@reikun86 In Italian the lines are:"Nice seal swimsuit." "Nice walrus teeth."and:"Can I be the one who drowns?😄💗" "Yes,FOREVER.💀"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Nicamon hahaha those are great lines 🤣
Addam's Family Values is a great example of witty fast paced dialogue.
The jokes and one-liners are constant and flow into each seamlessly. God I love this movie ❤️
Addams Family Values has the sickest burns and it’s script is also constantly hysterical. “I’ll be the victim!!! All your life……”
The Values one. It's pro-Indigenous, counterculture, and interesting! Both movies are good, though. Also, I had a crush on Wednesday's boyfriend
Me too! I thought he was so cute, and loved how much he loved her
I had a crush on her 😊
I watched it for the first time recently, and it so struck me how the Addams clearly saw her for who she was and considered her one of their own. She could have had a happy marriage of turning killing Fester into a game, like the kids do! Love the added context!
Debbie would've fit right in. 😭
She could've been such a great Adams. She could have even kept trying to blow up Fester if she wanted.
If only she didn't wear so many pastels 😪
Growing up I was obsessed with Dreamworks' 2D animated films, specifically The Road to El Dorado. It wasn't just the gorgeous music, art style, and animation that drew me in, but the characters themselves. The main trio is so charismatic. Even as a (socially oblivious) kid I understood that there was something unique about the relationship between Miguel and Tulio. More than friends, but not quite brothers. I found out much later that they were written to be lovers during most of development, which made a lot of things click. It seems that part of what drew me in was seeing two adult men be so openly affectionate with each other, and no one raising an eyebrow about it. (That and the possibility of a polycule at the end of the film.)
Writing this comment also brought back fond memories of exploring different sexualities and genders through fan fictions. I didn't realize exactly what was happening, but both media and fan creations allowed me to safely traverse LGBT culture and eventually discover myself.
Same!!
The original source material was created specifically to be critical of that time period's ideas on relationships and families, particularly that trope of the married couple who bicker and fight and might actually hate each other. Instead of another couple who hate each other, we got a couple who were absolutely devoted to each other. The Munsters was similar in that regard. They too were a family that were more loving, generous, and accepting than any of their neighbors.
I always love watching Wednesday turn the Thanksgiving myth into a nightmare for the YTs.
A highlight
when I tell u that scene gave me so much life growing up... that's what really happened that "Lost Colony" Lol
My favorite part.
Me too! And I loved how all the scenes about that play showed how racist those people were.
I love these movies! Angelica Houston is a perfect Morticia. I was given the wrong doll at seven. I get it, Debbie. Great video!
Born in the 80s grew up In the 90s i saw Addams family values in theaters as a kid having a crush on Wednesday lol this is one of those movies that gets better as an adult
As a kid, I read EVERY SINGLE JACQUELINE WILSON book I could get my little hands on. At that same time, I started thinking about my identity and how I was Definitely Not Straight. In her books, I noticed a lot of times the characters would fawn over their female friends and how one could read that as Romantic.
Heck, I even shipped some of the best friend duos!
Years later, Jacqueline Wilson came out as gay, and neither my mom nor I were surprised. I'm honestly so glad that I was correct in my gay reading of her novels, because for the longest time I just thought I was being Too Gay to Function.
Turns out, it was Jacqueline Wilson, author of Opal Plumstead (my favorite) the Entire Time.
Me too! I still have all her books and felt so validated when she came out 💖
I think the first Addams is my favorite only because I saw it first. genuinely, I love both movies. And now, as an adult, I can see the effects movies like the Addams Family had on my expectations of relationships. I am baffled about why people seem so excited over relationships where the couple seems to hate each other.
It's because they think they 'got' the brass ring and reached their end goal in life. For them to be a 'couple' 'completes' them. Never mind they hate each other, manipulate and gaslight, and generally can't stand the other person or want to 'fix' each other. It's like buying the fixer upper that's for sale because they see 'potential'.
@@cheriremily9360 Yes. The trouble with the traditional fairytale is that "I do" is seen as the Happy Ending, with no consideration to what comes next. With the Addams Family, they're long past whatever their ritual(s) for that is / are, and we come into their lives as a couple en media res. Consider the fact that although families, in general, are seen as a largely right wing conspiracy in modern day. And yet people love the Addams. That's because family is not a set of constraints. It should be an authentic life lived with people you love and who love you for your truest self.
I can't think of another movie franchise in which the sequel was so much better than the original. This is where The Addams Family peaked, and I'm saying that as a fan of both the comics and the 60's show.
Thanks, for this take. I haven't seen this film in years but I think this warrants a new look through a queer eye. ("Gomez, take those out of his mouth!")
A Very Brady Sequel has entered the chat...
It's on Pluto, I'm rewatching it in about 5 minutes
Shrek 2???
Shrek 2 and Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan
Peppy girl: "I'll play the victim!"
Wednesday: "All your life."
You are stellar. I didn't even think about why I loved Addams Family Values so much. Joan Cusack of course, but the breakdown of the symbolism was fantastic. You're like a Movie Pop Culture Professor. Your breakdowns are always great.
The "Damn you Adams" thing is super relatable. My mom didn't let me watch the first live action TMNT movie again until i was way older cause I would do around the house yelling "damn!" like Raphael did in the movie.
family values was my favorite. I longed to be able to say "eat me" to an adult and not get yelled at.
Thank you for helping me realize that the phrase “we gladly fear on those who would subdue us” is long-form for “eat the rich” and similar sentiments
"We gladly feast on those who would subdue us." I take that as my motto as well, lol
Debbie maniacally after blowing up her house will forever be iconic.
IDK why but Wednesday always resonated with me she was Dark, Emotionless, and Brutally Honest.. call me weird but I respected her as an individual
I wouldn't be surprised if Debbie was inspired by Cleopatra in the movie Freaks. The parallels are actually pretty striking in that - like Debbie - Cleopatra ingratiates herself with those deemed outside the norms of respectable society - in "Freaks" the various deformed circus performers - and only does so with the intent of winning over Hans (a little person) and his money, which she does by causing a rift with him and the other performers, as well as Frieda, his love interest (similar to how Debbie makes Fester sever ties with the Addamses). Like with Debbie and the Addams Family, who show her a kind of acceptance she's likely never seen before, the circus performers overwhelm and disgust her with their deeming her "one of us" in their chant at the dinner table, prompting her to lash out and finally show her true colors, violently dismissing them as "freaks" - which ultimately seals her fate and leads to her scheme being exposed. Although where Debbie is just killed, Cleopatra is dealt an even more graphic fate by being dismembered and rendered a disabled "duck woman" in a carnival sideshow now reduced to the very "freak" she was so repulsed by before, no longer able to enjoy the privilege that her "glamor" gave her in conformity (like with Debbie, her look chases a similar aesthetic - in Cleopatra's case her style is clearly meant to imitate glamorous "it girls" of the early 30s when Freaks was made; women like Jean Harlow or Joan Crawford). I have no idea if that was Rudnick's intention but listening to this video I was eerily reminded of how similar the two cases were.
Considering Todd Browning was a huge part of 30s gay culture I’ll bet you’re right
OMG! Ive been waiting for someone to talk about the total "gayness" of Debbie! Shes hte main reaosn I loved the sequel. She got almost all the best lines (next to Wednesday.)
Now, Im waiting for you to talk about Interview with the Vampire because that is, hands down, one of "teh gayest" vampire series on TV today and I love it!
Shiiittt, I'm not even gay and I love this show.
The arguments between those two are amusing af, plus when Louis killed that guy who said " lius was an exceptional negra" ....I was like.... you better eat that bitch"
Plus Lestats murder of the opera singer was just brilliant
@@darkservantofheaven Lestat is a deeply funny a##hole! 😂
I love how campy and fun the addams family is. absolute 10/10
It's interesting; I'd never really considered the movie in any deeper way - I only watched the first of the two recently, but I watched Values ages ago and fell in love with it. But as you talked about the character of Debbie, that scene where Morticia says 'pastels' in the most disappointed tone, I fully understand what it means now. And Debbie's reaction also makes so much sense. Of course she would get offended by being called out for hiding herself. She needs to be protected in her delusion that she's just like everybody else.
I love watching analysis media like this, because it always helps me to think about the movies I love in a new way. So glad to have found this video and your channel. On to the next!
As a bi man, when you said gay men lived vicariously through 60s and 70s starlettes, I had a real HOLY SHIT moment! It's amazing how easily it is for someone who is not deeply embedded in the gay community to completely miss or just not understand such formative and far reaching influences on the gay community. Thank you for pointing this out and helping me understand the infatuation with Divas that until now I just did not really understand about my gay friends.
My favorite parts of this movie:
1. The "I have seen evil! I have seen horror!" rant at the police station.
2. "An axe. Oh, that takes me back."
These films bring me such joy, still finding comfort in that Wednesday energy.
I showed my 12yo brother both movies this summer. He thought they were a hoot! He laughed at just about every joke ☺️
it's the way i quote the "Malibu Barbie" lines an unhealthy amount.It was my first thought when trisha announced her baby's name
Mal-i-bu. Bar-bie. I can't say it any other way 😂
@@sjokomelk literally impossible
Iconic I lived for this movie and Debbie as a character when I was younger. The mansion and her coming down the stairs in the fur gown, I was living
A little kid screaming "DAMN YOU ADAMS!!" sliding down a little slide is _hilarious_
“Malibu Barbie!” I use that so many times, Debbie is just pure iconic fun; like have we not all wanted to play a fabulous femme fatale?
Thank you so much for making this video! I too was obsessed with values before I even knew I was gay, so much so I'd re-enact the whole electric chair scene in home movies with friends as well as day dream about staging a revolt (as seen at the summer camp) during school events lol.
I watched this right after watching a video about the Lucille Bluth "Good for her!" meme and it dovetailed perfectly
Horror x camp + ( weird + dance number ) = iconic gay classic
0:03 I love this movie but I agree with what some people said: Debbie as the villain doesn’t make much sense, she fits in with them very well
Loved this breakdown! I think a lot of queer kids picked up on some of these themes subconsciously, but having to words to make sense of it all is just *chef's kiss*
“I’m Tom turkey!” And his little dance. I remember laughing so hard at this that I would run out of breath
LOVE this video. I was obsessed with this film as a kid and now I'm a gay trans guy. This was totally my comfort movie. Debbie is just *chef's kiss*
Duuude this breakdown is so great! It was always a bit of a mystery to me why I as a queer person (and so many others) latch on to campy messes like Addams family values and death becomes her (two of my FAVES), and all this was very validating lmao. Another silly but iconic film young me (and me now) was always enamored with is Clue! It has a lot of the same ‘glitz and glamor with a seedy underbelly’ and fantastic one-liners that mark whatever genre these are all in. Probably-too-young-for-horror me was also obsessed with IT (1990) but that may just be me lmao
Clue is A 💎!!! A classic full of brilliant quotable one liners and subtext for queerness all over!!
"All I ever wanted was a ballerina Barbie in her pretty pink tutu. My birthday. I was ten, and do you know what they got me? *Malibu Barbie* "
This dude’s way of explaining just slays
It’s 10 out of 10 for me 💅🏻
I missed your videos. Love listening to then on my wat to or fro from work. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤩👏🏾👏🏾
The Adam’s family curse is that they CANNOT kill each other. Debbie was blissfully unaware of this when she married Fester, which is why when she tried to kill the Adam’s she was killed instead.
Joan Cusack was also priceless in In and Out
That male camp counselor seems like he could be a closet case. lol
I wonder if this is why despite being very religious and closeted growing up I secretly loved the movie Carrie. Something about blacking out and burning all the haters to ash was… cathartic
The Malibu Barbie line is up there with no wire hangers for me.
Morticia: But Debbie...
Debbie: What!?
Morticia: PASTELS
CHEF'S KISS 😽🙊
"Addams family values" is so good, better than the first movie, highly underrated I'd say. Great insight you gave us here
This was an immediate subscribe. An in depth analysis of the fantastic Addams Family movies? Debbie being both the comedy and tragedy? HOW GAY IT IS??????? Sign me the fuck up! You've said things I repeatedly thought and I'm so glad I'm not alone!
They were on The Flintstones, too. I saw that before I ever saw the black and white TV show.
Great catch on the Cynthia doll,
That kid at 8:51 is holding a copy of, "A Brief History of Time and Space" by Stephen Hawking. We're watching an antagonist's origin story right here.
I have a fondness for the black and white series, there is something about how kind and generous they are even if creepy that I love. Will definitely rewatch Family Values and I do love the way the Addams Family can be used across generations to critique current society.
Maid: "Miiiiiiss Debbieeeeee!"
Debbie: "DEBRA!"
As a "Deb" this is one of my favorite Debbie lines from the movie 😂😂
To this day, I think my fascination with blood and bloody scenes in horror movies and how those special effects work can probably be tied back to being blown away by the talent show scene from the first movie. We had that one on VHS, so it has more nostalgia value for me, but Values is such a fun ride. They're both incredible movies.
This is a great video essay. I loved that film so much when I was younger and it held up so well when I saw it. But I never really thought about my enjoyment connected to being queer. But know that you say it, it is delicously camp. One of my best friends is called Debbie as well which is fun. :)
I can't choose because I'm a super Addams Family fan. I became familiar with the source material late in life. My intro was the 1964 series, which was syndicated, translated and shown in Puerto Rico when I was about seven, I think. I loved both these movies for different reasons. I've seen the newer versions with one of my favorites, Charlize Theron, voicing Morticia and I'm waiting for Wednesday to come out.
I absolutely love your take on Debbie. I am fascinated by the conservative notion that 80s-90s movies were not political. Plus, I'm a big Raul Julía fan and the one thing I know is that he always had this ability to pick characters that were either obviously making a political statement (Romero, Moon over Parador) or quietly giving it to you (Addams). My favorite read of your video, which was my intro to you, is when you said that Debbie went from wanting a Malibu Barbie to looking like Cynthia, Angelica Pickles favorite doll. You are fantastic and I look forward to your perspective on other things.
7:30 Cinema Wins >>>>>> Sins ANYDAY Cinema Wins is just so wholesome and appreciative of my favorite films, much better for my mental health
Ohmygoodness i am sold after the syllabus, adored this movies as a kid. Watched a lot of the Adam's family, and the Munsters.
Just found the channel and I'm excited to see what else there is. :)
New subscriber here: it really does remind me of But I'm a Cheerleader vibes in terms of the color-coding of the characters (who is heteronormative, who is queer, etc)
Wow. This is my first video of yours and I got blessed.... i have never looked at these iconic and beloved movies in this manner. Thanks!
I stumbled on your video because I am on an Addams family fixation out of the blue the last 2-weeks. Well done! *subscribes
I'm a fifty eight year old woman. That movie is perfection! It's what every remake wants to be, but isn't. It's unique, dark and... Debbie! What a great cast.
not fully related but gomez and morticia are PEAK t4t relationship goals
Well put; I always thought the ultimate irony of Debbie is that, being a serial killer/sociopath, she fit right the f*** in, much like Dr Pinderschloss in the first movie.
Oh hey! New channel that is damn good and worth the watch! Hey algorithm: many people will find this entertaining and engaging.
Thanks for the excellent analysis!
Always loved Addams Family Values the mostest! I've used Debbie's backstory monologue in an audition before, actually, because it's just such a masterpiece. Plus, Barry Sonnenfeld's distinct directorial vibes can't be understated either.
Joel being in the in-between of Camp Chippewa's "rebels" like Wednesday and Addams is perfectly in line with the commentary on conservative "family values" concepts. Joel (like writer Rudnick and director Sonnenfeld) is Jewish, one of the most prominent examples of groups who have "conditional white privilege" in America. His parents, too, are trying to fit in with their WASPy Republican neighbors, betraying the Jewish value of social justice in doing so, just as Debbie denies her inner Addams by pursuing exurban upper middle-class 90s blandness!
Also: wild that you mentioned the diva worship aspect because a friend and I were just talking about queer diva worship then and now, and the change from earnestness in desire for vicarious representation to the weird ironically unironic love of mess that we find ourselves in now.
Debbie Jellinsky was my awakening. She is the blueprint for women I date. She was gorgeous and dangerous. 😍
Bryan Fuller I think confirmed just a few years ago that Pushing Daisies, a show about a male-female couple who aren't able to touch due to magic reasons, was inspired by the AIDS epidemic (this comment came out at the height of the covid pandemic, since people had mentioned resonating with the social distancing aspects of the relationship). I had never even fathomed that angle -- I appreciated it more from a lens that you don't need sex to have romance. But Fuller's comment made me appreciate how he turned an experience that must have been so painful -- having to be distant from someone you love -- into something kind of bittersweet and magical.
AFV is literally the only sequel I'll not only watch, but find better than the original
Perfect video to get me into spooky season 🖤🧡
this was how I got into the Adams family and I LOVED THEM, I always giggled at the "our mom had sex" scene when they girl is so proud telling how her baby brother is getting there xD, I also grew up with Austen powers,take that as you wish rofl