Ah yes, the ultimate metaphorical gay yearning story par excellence. I loved the OG Hans Cristian Andersen story when I was little, even more than the Disney film. The tragedy seemed so much more poignant to me, even if I didn't know that word at the time.
Because of the Disney creatives involved, or because it was basically written by Andersen as a "I can't believe the man I love brother zoned me" piece?
Clawhauser being queer adds another layer to his line in Zootopia where he said, “predators like me are being kicked out” I’m paraphrasing. But you could see that as also meaning being discriminated for his orientation. I really liked that Zootopia didn’t code any one species with a race, gender, orientation, etc. There were many places you could see the importance of intersectionality in social issues.
I think the reason why I can easily pair Clawhauser with Bogo is because they have a positive dynamic. Bogo doesn't judge Clawhauser's interests or obsessions, and even secretly takes part in a few obviously. He doesn't also put any negativity on Clawhauser's physical abilities or appearance, he's his friend because he's his friend. Bogo also is clearly more comfortable being himself around Clawhauser, calling himself "stunning" and willingly changing appearance to complete "the mission". I feel that Bogo *knows* Clawhauser wouldn't make fun of him for whatever reason, and that's a rarity in a male-to-male friendship dynamic, especially when both are in law enfortcement and "feelings" have no place in the workroom.
Also, Elphaba from Wicked is PEAK queer yearning; longing for Fiero, knowing that the entire world wants him to be with Galinda. And then when he does choose to be with Elphaba, he gets dragged away by an angry mob because he’s been “bewitched”
Genuinely! I gay yearn for the secret good ending where the Animals aren't forced to become lowercase-"a" animals and Glinda, Elphaba, and Fiyero are the ultimate magical bi4bi polycule.
I also feel as though *Galinda* is very much queer yearning. Yeah, she dated Fiero for a bit and seemed attracted to him, but at the end of the day she mourned Elphaba, and I believe she only dated Fiero because that was what's expected of her (popular girl dates popular guy). I kind of wished her and Elphaba ran away together in the end, instead of it being Elphaba and Fiero. Not to diminish the relationship between Fiero and Elphaba (both the Wicked Witch and Good Witch seem to be heavily bi-coded, and if not bi then at least queer-coded in general), but her and his relationship didn't seem as fully fleshed out as her and Galinda's. I watched a video diving into that, and when they talked about ques in songs signifying romance/falling in love between Fiero and Elphaba, the musical used those sound ques *so many times* with her and Galinda, where as they used it once with Elphaba and Fiero; I think maybe two clear scenes of this sound que between the two women is when Galinda chose to approach Elphaba on the dance floor, and when Galinda realized just how pretty Elphaba was after her song 'Popular' (a.k.a bi awakening song lol). I do think Elphaba liked Galinda back as well, especially with her whole entire 'Defying Gravity' song, which felt not only like 'I don't give a damn about what others think about me, not even you Galinda' song, but also a 'But please run away with me' song.When Galinda didn't reciprocate because, well, eVeRyBoDy TaLkS, I believe that is when Elphaba tried to quell her feelings for the Good Witch and decided to run away with Fiero, because that option was not only easier (Fiero loved the death out of Elphaba), but also more socially acceptable. [or maybe they all should've become a throuple, idk lol]
I read Clawhauser as queer the moment I saw him on-screen because he's a character that is basically if my real life best friend was an animated cheetah. It's that uncanny, cause they act so similar and have the same mannerisms. I definitely get the impression that the team behind Zootopia were shipping Bogo/Clawhauser. I'd ship it, c'mon who wouldn't? They're adorable together.
Me, I wouldn't ship them because I instinctively feel uncomfy or concerned when there's a major power imbalance in a relationship---so, bosses dating employees, teachers dating students, that sort of thing. Other than that major sticking point, yeah, they certainly have a fun chemistry!
@@dinosaysrawr I think a healthy relationship should complete leave out what works they have, it's really toxic to have in mind your professional position in a romantic setting, or at least that's my opinion, unless you are into power imbalance as a consensual dynamic with your partner, that term shouldn't even exist, except obviously the teacher student situation if it regards a minor
@@maybelater6282 personally I saw that he was definitely gay. I mean think about it, the compensation of hyper-masculinity while also hiding his passion for pop music and dancing? Reminds me of several guys I knew in high school.
I'm barely halfway through and let me tell you, this is next level. Cohesive, comprehensive, clear, in-depth... It's perfect. I love it when seriousness and entertainment meet each other and intellect fondly supervise.
damn, this made me think about this girl I had a crush on a few years ago. she was my first queer crush and the last crush I had while identifying as a girl, and I wanted so badly to be with her. i did everything for her -- picking up her stuff from her ex-boyfriend's house, dropping everything to hang out with her, helping her with homework, taking classes I don't need to graduate just so I could be near her. i tried so desperately to get her to see me as an option, but i realize now that I could never have been one. as myself now, or as I was then. i broke my own heart over a girl who could never return my affections.
I watched James Somerton's video about Black Swan and somehow I didn't pick up on the whole "Tchaikovsky was queer and writing about his own desires" until you said it again in this video. We straight people dense as fuck sometimes.
Your conclusion about Clawhausers tragedy is convincing. I experienced similar things with heteronormative men that I had an affection with. Illusions are a huge problem if you can't keep distance to them. Daydreams like Clawhausers in Zoomania+ are quite horrible if you think about it :O
haven’t finished the video quite yet but i feel the need to point out that in the episode about flash and his girlfriend gary and larry (2 male wolves) were on a dinner date in the background :))
Despite how it kinda stings their relationship at the time, I do think Bogo’s surface level disregard towards Clawhauser, when the predators were being outcasted, makes sense narratively and makes the moment for when they finally get together all the more sweeter. When Bellwether was mayor, society’s expectations flipped entirely. Bogo now lived in a zootopia that outcasts predators, and as a result, he is pressured, as a police chief, to not display any affection towards what society deems as a bad thing. However, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t still personally care for people who are predators. Seeing Bogo rush to Clawhauser when he requested backup, in the short, tells us that Bogo always did care for him, but he was just unable to show it when society was forcing him to isolate from predators. And this makes sense, since Bogo is a character that hides his emotions 98% of the time and does so to abide by society’s expectations. Now, when Bogo finally sheds free of his pressures and sees Clawhauser in a way that Clawhauser always wanted Bogo to see him, Bogo’s pressured stoicism breaks and he finally is able to be happy, something almost never seen prior. And while Clawhauser’s failure to make Bogo notice him at first does emanate the tragedies of most queer yearnings, I feel like Clawhauser still succeeding in his goal tells an even more important lesson, that no matter how many times you you fail, you should always get up and try again, because eventually someone will see you in how you always wanted them to.
so my favorite horror movie of all time is Joel Schumacher's The Lost Boys, and it was more or less my introduction to queer yearning in multiple ways. it was pretty much my queer and polyamorous awakening back in the day, and my gender awakening more recently, not to mention that the plot itself is RIDDLED with queer yearning. Michael's desire to fit in, his draw to the rebellion and sex appeal of the vampires, David's barely subtextual seduction of Michael down to the literal line "my blood is in your veins"
I always shipp Clauhauser with one of the dancers tigger, for me seems more natural than Bogo. But l love the character development of Bogo in the short
24:08 MOOMINVALLLY MOOMINVALLLY MOOMINVALLY! My lord Moomintroll and snufkin! even if it’s not really new ( but it does have a 2019 show). Moomintroll and snufkin are best friends that would also yearn for each other but their problems. 1. Snufkin is more of a nomad and like to be alone and travel. Moomintroll however like to be with people he loves and want snufkin to stay with him or he goes with snufkin. 2. Moomintroll is dating a girl because he feel like that the right thing to do since he desperately wants to be like his parents, but finds himself more in love with snufkin. This also hurt snufkin because he’s cares for moomintroll but doesn’t feel like it’s the right thing because it might take away his freedom. So it’s like this back and forth thing. They both yearn for each other and I really do think it would turn out great because the writer is gay and always wanted these two boys to get together, but since at the time she made it, it wasn’t accepted. She also was in the same situation because she was marry to a guy, but was in love with a girl. This writer is Tove Johnson and she wrote the books Moominvally, it’s really good.
Not sure if this is the proper place. I was wondering if you took a look at Disney's Descendants, particularly the undertone of indoctrination. From both the parents side but also from the school side. It is very much we are going to teach you the right way think and behave. The first side with the villianous parents is more obvious and inteaded in the story. The second the the school is doing the same thing showing them how they should act if they want citizenship and be allowed off the villian reservations might be less obvious to some. Would enjoy to know your thoughts and appologize if you already covered this topic and I missed the video.
But what if the person I put my life in pause for unexpectedly died while I was waiting, and now years have passed and I'm just stuck waiting for someone that simply isn't there anymore? Yeah I know, I brought the mood down, but I wasn't expecting to be called out by a random video I clicked on.
@@Migrane0 depends on the fox. We should always approach cultures and those within by attempting to meet them as they are instead of as we prefer them to be. I admit I was making a "all foxes are ultra horny, silly, and salacious" take, because the foxes I have met fall into that category, but that's myopic. Another common take is "fur tourism" or "all newbies are foxes." Bah. Why gatekeep? Anyhow... it varies from fox to fox, but in some areas of the culture, there's assumptions made, which is sort of what this channel picks daintily apart. #notallfoxes maybe?
Mmm, Chief Bogo still would've been a much better and more threatening twist villain than Bellwether in the Zootopia movie or both Chief Bogo and Bellwether as twist villains would work just as well too.
I took Clawhauser's queerness utterly and completely for granted because I know *at least* three dozen critters just like him in the furry fandom, so. :D
I don't now. I feel like helping person, that name themself hetero, to break heteronormative limitations, doesn't have to make them question their implied sexuality. Even if there are queer that stuck in this limitation, and you are helping them to overcome it, if you do it ONLY to them start being your partner or give you sex then at the start you want this "tragedy" to happens. And then (this isn't about reader I hope) if after giving them help you feel entitled to attraction , sex or partnership you are the same as incels. Edit: ( clicked enter to soon) The thing is if you start to have chemistry, and your intentions were just to help someone that hurt then maybe romantic relationship could blossom. Or what also good, maybe you help somebody or even gain good friend.
The idea of "queer yearning" implies tragedy because of something very simple: if it's not tragedy (or t least rebuffing), then it's simply called... romance. Nice vid! I''m new to the channel, and while not a furry, I'm furry adjacent and so the in-jokes are pretty great.
Clawhauser always read feminine gal who likes men to me in the og and not queer. but then again my raydar is busted despite me being tomboy. edited .. watched when Clawhauser meets Judy and Clawhauser says Benjamin and He for himself.. 🤦♀.guys i don't pay attention to side characters or go looking for queers but just enjoy the movie without thinking about it ..
Definitely a trans one! Maybe that can help? As an NB, AFAB, I loved that movie and wore down many tapes. When you consider how phallic the castle was..... she was literally a girl who grew up in a dick coat, who rejected that life to live with a woman's bottom instead of a fish half. Totally trans.
@@Cdr2002yeah, I didn't think too deeply on it, but it reminded me of one of my friend's transition issues and how she felt like she was silenced for being who she was. As far as passing troubles, Ariel had magic to make it flawless, despite the built in bugs.
The older I get, the more I can tell when a show has queer people and/or writers of color in the room. It really gives a lot more...seasoning, as it were.
No, it’s just Disney’s woke pandering. That’s the only reason any characters who aren’t cis straight white male ever appear. Definitely can’t be genuine changes from an increasingly diverse team. Minority demographics don’t exist in real life and so they shouldn’t exist in my media. /S
And when that seasoning is missing, it's often not just that the meal is bland - too often it's got something noxious in it the cooks didn't even realize (or didn't care) would leave a bad taste in folks mouths.
Listening to this podcast style at work was a mistake, now I'm sobbing while grilling chicken and can't explain that it's because I relate to a chubby cheetah
oh my god my heart broke when you pointed out the interaction with bogo at the front desk happened AFTER the short, i hadnt noticed it before :( great work as always, touched that forgotten queer yearning deep inside i had forgotten about but BOY it all came rushing back
22:05 maybe the reason he didn't change his expression when walking past Clawhauser is that he felt like he couldn't show sadness/guilt because of those extreme expectations put upon him. Maybe (just like with the Gazelle video) he only showed his grief at seeing Clawhauser so sad in private.
I definitely see this as both dismantling toxic masculinity and accepting your queerness. I also like to see that this as camaraderie between two queer friends which I’d love to see more of without the inevitable romantic road simply because both are queer but the ship is cute lol
@@lemmymeringue8528 i do see queer bait but those aren't even queer buddies as it is just "close" buddies, neither are typically confirmed as actually queer (which is actually this short lol). A lot of media that do have canon queer characters usually have them in a relationships because it "makes sense" which is why I think it'd be nice to see queer characters that don't actually need to pursue romance to be any less queer but that doesn't mean I want less queer romance either.
@@sapphic.flower I think representing Aromantic people would probably give that kind of queer friendship for mainstream, but when specifically two, two characters of the same gender are hinted as clearly close and well ✨a little bit gay✨ Without it being explicitly stated.. it’s usually queer baiting…
My favorite zootopia plus episode personally was "the real rodents of little rodentia" yes it seems very basic on the surface level but I think it's a very beautiful story about the bonds of family and such
My queer yearning experience as an aro/Ace (if it qualifies) is that I yearn to fall in love or have sexual attraction to others. Romance and sex is practically advertised in every single thing, so much so that it feels like psychological warfare. I used to pretend to have crushes and stuff because I always loved romance books n’ stuff. The idea of a significant other is nice, but I just can’t truly see it ever apply to myself, nor do I truly want it either. But when that stuff is so ingrained into every day life that its “what makes you human” it sure has hell leaves me wondering wth I’m supposed to be
@@Readus101 Agreed with the OP! When I found out you are a furry I was so happy to finally find an open furry youtuber that doesn't shame furries and realizes the intersection between many marginalized communities and the furry community. Even many progressive channels I watched eventually bullied Furries a bit, and it just felt counter productive because those are the same people you're trying to appeal to by being progressive. I unsubscribe from any channel bringing overly negative vibes to Furries simply because I don't need that kind of stuff in my life and I would rather support other content creators that don't make assumptions about the community and throw shade our way when we have enough to deal with and just enjoy cute anthro things. Anyhow, your sona is cute La'Ron! You should commission more stuff of them :D I would love to see! And thanks for making awesome and introspective content. All your furry related videos make me excited to watch them every time I see them pop up, I know I'm in for a good time :3 All your content in general is great, but the furry ones are always like a special episode to me :D Thank you for making great stuff!
@@TwixtheFox as a furry myself, I see furries as mainly an online community that has an interest in anthro animals, which most people only see it as the bad parts unfortunately.
As someone who is not a furry, I wanted to add my voice in support. I totally would like to see more videos about furry stuff. I really don't like it that people only ever make fun of furries, when the overwhelming majority of them are some of the most creative and sweet people out there. Some positive and affirming videos on this topic are very much needed!
For me... Long story short I had feelings for an old highschool friend of mine. He was a grade lower than me but we were still good friends. I expressed to him via my journal how I felt about him when he read it. He nodded and we kinda just left it at that. Today he has 2 baby mommas and a girlfriend with 3 kids of her own from another relationship and he's...... Happy????????? I guess? 🤷🏾♂️
"Though, to be fair, if we were going with furry generalisations, foxes would be stereotyped for something completely different." I guffawed. (As a pine marten, there are too few of us for there to be a stereotype, but we do seem to all follow each other on Twitter.) Honestly, queer yearning is a theme I've always enjoyed in fiction-or, well, less "enjoyed" than "felt empathetic pain over." The core subtext of adolescent queer yearning in Night on the Galactic Railroad, another piece of furry-adjacent animated media, is part of what makes it one of my favourite films ever, along with how it handles grief as the flip-side to that longing. So often longing is deeply intertwined with loss in that way, whether the loss of realising that a friend will never quite look at you in the way that you look at them, or even if they should look at you the same way… welp, I'm not gonna spoil the film! It's nice when it ends in some small victory, though, as it does in this short… initially. The film's plot builds in the sting, as you so aptly demonstrated. In any case: Neither example here may be explicit, but I dunno, with something like this, the metaphor is strong enough in itself, with both its edges in tact. Also, as two bonus rounds for queer yearning, and very furry indeed, in the form of two very unique concept albums: The Flowers of Robert Mapplethorpe by Patricia Taxxon (an absolute emotional wrecking ball); and Twin Fantasy by Car Seat Headrest (particularly the messier, weirder 2011 "Mirror to Mirror" version).
I think the So you can think you can Prance was probably my favourite episode ( I mean...shirtless Bogo? yes) this video explains why. However as a hospitality worker some Australia, Dinner Rush hit very close to home. Also went to an all boys catholic high school...the queer yearning was real
I’m a bisexual non-binary person and I’ve never felt safe enough to express my feelings or attraction to a person of my AGAB because of all the things in this video. The risk is just too high :(
Bisexual transmasc, and I feel you. I'm perfectly happy with my relationship life now but a part of me deep down is scared that I might never have a nice relationship with a guy because of the very real possibility I could get hurt for "tricking" him
Eponine from Les Mis is totally a queer yearning story. I would sing On My Own so much when I was younger thinking about my straight best friend at the time
10:30 I'd say a simplification there would be "Capitalism exploit of queer men towards Heteronormativity masculinity till they're a husk of themselves", however this might be an oversimplification, or not enough of a simplification
A queer yearning story I didn't recognize until recently was me in 3rd grade DESPERATELY wanting to be this one girl's friend. It was intense. I let this girl call me every name under the sun, y'all, so long as she was talking to me. Eventually I wised up and found better friends....after she screamed at me to stop hanging around her. And as I got older, I realized...Baby Katie, that was kinda gay. Cause I didn't just want to be her friend. I had seen us holding hands and hugging like little 3rd grade boyfriends and girlfriends did "but in a friend way I swear"
SAME i used to let this girl do anything to me, call me every single name existed, order me around. Even after accepting that what she was doing to me was wrong the "i don't want to be friends anymore" felt more like a break up than anything. I was in FOURTH GRADE, and the worse thing? It happened again when I was in high school, and I still. didn't. realize. I was queer, like c'mon 💀
With everything you said, Hans Anderson's Little Mermaid sure sounds like queer yearning. I would think the Snow Queen is queer yearning story too but that one is based on Hans's hetero crush on a woman, so I am confused about that.
welp. it turns out im smack dab in the middle of my own queer yearning story. theres a guy im pretty smitten with who seems perfect for me in nearly everyway, but he has a boyfriend already and weve only talked online. theres still some hope because hes not too content with his relationship, and he shares similar feelings for me, and well be meeting up for a convention soon.. but if he doesnt figure out what he wants after weve met in person, i think ill just have to accept we wont be anything more.
I just got the chance to watch this video and I just wanted to say thanks for this. I just went through my own "queer yearning" disaster and heartbreak, and I found this video to be incredibly cathartic and it allowed me to breathe. She was the first person I came out as trans to and, towards the end of our friendship, she was starting to question her sexuality. But, as these stories often do, she rubberbanded and blew up at me, cutting me off. So I just wanted to thank you for the video and the lovely message at the end, and for helping me past a hurdle I was struggling with
Very interestingly on the app where i track what i watch This episode was ranked rhe lowest and the comments were terrible calling it furry propaganda (as if the whole series and movie isnt that lol)
This was a very nice vid, I really liked the message towards the end about kinda putting yourself first even as you hope for somebody. It felt very important for me to hear that
Thank you for those kind reassuring words at the end, I really needed to hear that after being through a few tragic relationships with yearning that was never received back.. I've had some time to recover from them, but what you said really hit me, so I thank you for that; you got a new subscriber
Thank you for making a video like this! As per the homework assignment, I’d like to share with the class, if you don’t mind, a story about a “friend of mine.”😉 So I have this friend who, just a month ago, had his first kiss (ever) with another guy. And it was the other guy’s first kiss too. There was happiness, fearlessness, and pure comfort in the magic of that night. And for two days, my friend was on actual cloud nine. Now, the other guy has a girl that he’s been close to, and while he does care about my friend, he admittedly is an asexual who, as he puts it, “isn’t a relationship type of guy”. Anyway, I’ll spare you guys the details of my friend’s struggle to get this guy to admit to liking him as more than a friend, and of the frustration and confusion that my friend feels about this guy, because, after I showed this video to him, he realized that he was, in fact, yearning for the other guy. He understands now, and he will try to find someone worthy of his time and affection. …Is it too late to join the class, sir? I would very much like to sit down and listen to more of what you have to say.😊❤
Ok this is my own queer yearning story that’s still going on and I know will have a tragic ending to this but I’ll be okayyyy. Anyways; I met someone on an app (not a dating app) and we started talking and we bonded over naming our cats after Greek gods (I have two cats; Hades and Aphrodite they have one cat; Aries) we really bonded over so many things. We talk on a regular basis, calling each other cute and hot whatever, always talking about our day and how we wished we could be closer. Our tragedy? We live on opposite sides of the country, both are which very conservative. I really crave a romantic feeling towards them and they might too but but we both have really weird commitment issues so we know we can’t be together and if we are it’s not gonna be for a long time
It's so depressing how Disney was literally built on the backs of queer writers, musicians, actors etc and it had yet to have open queer representation where characters can just say they're gay and can just be in a relationship
Is it ironic or is it poetic than men who could very much flourish as long as they hide their sexuality used to self-insert themselves as cis hetero women who just about 100 years ago had way less rights than them? It kinda reminds me how cis hetero women self insert themselves in BL/Yaoi relationship stories to deal with their darker impulses and desire.
I really liked the final episode. This poor otter lady was being run ragged, like she did not deserve that, especially with the cook being such an ass. But she learned her lesson for the sloths and even got a free ride to the concert out of it! Helps that my favorite punchline in Zootopia was that "Niiiiiick" moment we see at the end of this short
Well 2 stories that are basically one, when i was in high school i fell in love with a guy, who was repressed to a comedic degree, he was the only one i midly felt safe and conected to, and he kinda felt the same way, we used to lay on the grass behind the school building, he had troubles trusting people, and even had an abrasive personality to help keep walls up but he told me about his past bulling, how he got into fitness was because people, bullied him because he was a chubby boy, i was and still am a chubby boy so boy if i could relate, and it got to a point i asked if he´d ever trust again, he told me that's for the gays weird but i let it pass, one time he went to my house after we came from seeing one of his soccer matches, he was soaked because of the rain, but i wasn´t because he lend me his jacket, i told him to shower and get changed, so he went to the bathroom, while i prepare tea with lemon and honey, he got out of the bathroom asap, i asked if there was something wrong, he didn't told me anything and he just left, wet clothes on and all, next day at school i heard him talk to the popular kids of the class how he thought i was gonna assault him, i felt insulted, and heartbroken, keep in mind that he didn´t have a good relationship with the popular kids until now, and i was just passing thru so i find it sus, i don´t know if i did something wrong, or it was him, but i`ll probably never get my answer, just that i was a kid with a crush and maybe a wild imagination, or too much hope for someone that still needed more time, And second story i kinda wrote a lot in the pandemic, so i wrote a story/ show concep based on this, the protagonist has a crush on this guy since season 1, and this guy makes comments and remarks of how straight he is and at the next moment he is doing the gayest shit imaginable, so the protagonist has this hope in his head that this guy one day will figure it out that he is not straight and they will fall in love and be together, but it the third season it´s revealed that he is in fact not gay, but a lesbian trans woman, he was right, she was not straight and he ended up helping figuring herself out, yet he'll never be with them, all that yearning for someone that might never even existed. (Forth season is the character's maturity and while i'm not sure if they'll end up as friends or acuaintances they are okay and at peace with the outcome)
sometimes it really dosen't feel like there is that girl that wants me. but it's nice to hear some reassurance now and then (how dare you make me cry with your closing thoughts tho SIR)
The fact that I've only just found your channel fills me with queer rage (at the algorithm.) This was great, and I'm excited to watch more. I'm also gonna be on the lookout for queer yearning in the media I watch now, which will be a nice way to hone the more general "just looking for any queer coding at all."
I can't believe Disney somehow managed to 'disney-fy' one of the most tragic queer yearning tales I've ever heard [the little mermaid]. I mean homegirl split her tail into feet for the man she loved, and still, that wasn't enough. Disney truly gaslit us during our childhood.
Okay, now that I've watched the whole video through, first off I don't think a TLDR exists for what you described. I think that WAS the TLDR. Second, probably my favorite queer yearning story is When Marnie Was There, even (or maybe especially) with the twist at the end.
well there still remain the Oryx-Antlerson's hidden-at-plain-sight married couple of bickering male next-room neighboors from Judy's apartment, Pronk and Bucky, the former done by an open-gay voice-actor and the second from Zootopia's co-director who openly outed the pair as gay canon of Disney!!!
I always viewed clawhauser as gay the short just solidified it. Judy's neighbors in the movie were also confirmed as a couple by the director or producer. my favorite short was the short where flash and pricilla go on a date
i have seen, and replied to, a few of James Somerton's videos (25:30-25:32); gotta get me more of his, and of yours. gotta learn how to talk gooder, too. Correction: more gooder. by the by, apologies for not even starting, let alone completing, the homework assignment.
posted something earlier before finishing the video, now actually crying, thank you (not that I didn't know, but still really appreciated hearing it said)
It's "The Little Mermaid;" I was talking about "The Little Mermaid"
I thought that was obvious 😂
Very excited for that!
in hindsight it make sense, but could not guess what movie you where talking about.
Ah yes, the ultimate metaphorical gay yearning story par excellence. I loved the OG Hans Cristian Andersen story when I was little, even more than the Disney film. The tragedy seemed so much more poignant to me, even if I didn't know that word at the time.
Because of the Disney creatives involved, or because it was basically written by Andersen as a "I can't believe the man I love brother zoned me" piece?
Clawhauser being queer adds another layer to his line in Zootopia where he said, “predators like me are being kicked out” I’m paraphrasing. But you could see that as also meaning being discriminated for his orientation.
I really liked that Zootopia didn’t code any one species with a race, gender, orientation, etc. There were many places you could see the importance of intersectionality in social issues.
I think the reason why I can easily pair Clawhauser with Bogo is because they have a positive dynamic. Bogo doesn't judge Clawhauser's interests or obsessions, and even secretly takes part in a few obviously. He doesn't also put any negativity on Clawhauser's physical abilities or appearance, he's his friend because he's his friend. Bogo also is clearly more comfortable being himself around Clawhauser, calling himself "stunning" and willingly changing appearance to complete "the mission". I feel that Bogo *knows* Clawhauser wouldn't make fun of him for whatever reason, and that's a rarity in a male-to-male friendship dynamic, especially when both are in law enfortcement and "feelings" have no place in the workroom.
Also, Elphaba from Wicked is PEAK queer yearning; longing for Fiero, knowing that the entire world wants him to be with Galinda. And then when he does choose to be with Elphaba, he gets dragged away by an angry mob because he’s been “bewitched”
The ULTIMATE bi4bi couple
Genuinely! I gay yearn for the secret good ending where the Animals aren't forced to become lowercase-"a" animals and Glinda, Elphaba, and Fiyero are the ultimate magical bi4bi polycule.
Big agree
@@lalas181 YES
I also feel as though *Galinda* is very much queer yearning. Yeah, she dated Fiero for a bit and seemed attracted to him, but at the end of the day she mourned Elphaba, and I believe she only dated Fiero because that was what's expected of her (popular girl dates popular guy). I kind of wished her and Elphaba ran away together in the end, instead of it being Elphaba and Fiero. Not to diminish the relationship between Fiero and Elphaba (both the Wicked Witch and Good Witch seem to be heavily bi-coded, and if not bi then at least queer-coded in general), but her and his relationship didn't seem as fully fleshed out as her and Galinda's. I watched a video diving into that, and when they talked about ques in songs signifying romance/falling in love between Fiero and Elphaba, the musical used those sound ques *so many times* with her and Galinda, where as they used it once with Elphaba and Fiero; I think maybe two clear scenes of this sound que between the two women is when Galinda chose to approach Elphaba on the dance floor, and when Galinda realized just how pretty Elphaba was after her song 'Popular' (a.k.a bi awakening song lol). I do think Elphaba liked Galinda back as well, especially with her whole entire 'Defying Gravity' song, which felt not only like 'I don't give a damn about what others think about me, not even you Galinda' song, but also a 'But please run away with me' song.When Galinda didn't reciprocate because, well, eVeRyBoDy TaLkS, I believe that is when Elphaba tried to quell her feelings for the Good Witch and decided to run away with Fiero, because that option was not only easier (Fiero loved the death out of Elphaba), but also more socially acceptable. [or maybe they all should've become a throuple, idk lol]
I read Clawhauser as queer the moment I saw him on-screen because he's a character that is basically if my real life best friend was an animated cheetah. It's that uncanny, cause they act so similar and have the same mannerisms. I definitely get the impression that the team behind Zootopia were shipping Bogo/Clawhauser. I'd ship it, c'mon who wouldn't? They're adorable together.
Me, I wouldn't ship them because I instinctively feel uncomfy or concerned when there's a major power imbalance in a relationship---so, bosses dating employees, teachers dating students, that sort of thing.
Other than that major sticking point, yeah, they certainly have a fun chemistry!
@@dinosaysrawr I think a healthy relationship should complete leave out what works they have, it's really toxic to have in mind your professional position in a romantic setting, or at least that's my opinion, unless you are into power imbalance as a consensual dynamic with your partner, that term shouldn't even exist, except obviously the teacher student situation if it regards a minor
I don’t ship them because while cheetah man is definitely gay, I really can’t see bull man as that
@@maybelater6282 why tho?
@@maybelater6282 personally I saw that he was definitely gay. I mean think about it, the compensation of hyper-masculinity while also hiding his passion for pop music and dancing? Reminds me of several guys I knew in high school.
“Clawhauser can’t be gay, he’s obsessed with Gazelle!” Lady Gaga. That’s all I think I have to say
I'm barely halfway through and let me tell you, this is next level. Cohesive, comprehensive, clear, in-depth... It's perfect. I love it when seriousness and entertainment meet each other and intellect fondly supervise.
damn, this made me think about this girl I had a crush on a few years ago. she was my first queer crush and the last crush I had while identifying as a girl, and I wanted so badly to be with her. i did everything for her -- picking up her stuff from her ex-boyfriend's house, dropping everything to hang out with her, helping her with homework, taking classes I don't need to graduate just so I could be near her. i tried so desperately to get her to see me as an option, but i realize now that I could never have been one. as myself now, or as I was then. i broke my own heart over a girl who could never return my affections.
I watched James Somerton's video about Black Swan and somehow I didn't pick up on the whole "Tchaikovsky was queer and writing about his own desires" until you said it again in this video. We straight people dense as fuck sometimes.
i have seen neither Somerton's video nor _Black Swan_, but i had to comment about your "dense" statement: yyyep.
For me, it would be "Check, Please!" a webcomic by Ngozi Ukazu.
If you don't know it I think you'll find it fascinating.
Your conclusion about Clawhausers tragedy is convincing. I experienced similar things with heteronormative men that I had an affection with. Illusions are a huge problem if you can't keep distance to them. Daydreams like Clawhausers in Zoomania+ are quite horrible if you think about it :O
haven’t finished the video quite yet but i feel the need to point out that in the episode about flash and his girlfriend gary and larry (2 male wolves) were on a dinner date in the background :))
Despite how it kinda stings their relationship at the time, I do think Bogo’s surface level disregard towards Clawhauser, when the predators were being outcasted, makes sense narratively and makes the moment for when they finally get together all the more sweeter.
When Bellwether was mayor, society’s expectations flipped entirely. Bogo now lived in a zootopia that outcasts predators, and as a result, he is pressured, as a police chief, to not display any affection towards what society deems as a bad thing. However, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t still personally care for people who are predators. Seeing Bogo rush to Clawhauser when he requested backup, in the short, tells us that Bogo always did care for him, but he was just unable to show it when society was forcing him to isolate from predators. And this makes sense, since Bogo is a character that hides his emotions 98% of the time and does so to abide by society’s expectations.
Now, when Bogo finally sheds free of his pressures and sees Clawhauser in a way that Clawhauser always wanted Bogo to see him, Bogo’s pressured stoicism breaks and he finally is able to be happy, something almost never seen prior.
And while Clawhauser’s failure to make Bogo notice him at first does emanate the tragedies of most queer yearnings, I feel like Clawhauser still succeeding in his goal tells an even more important lesson, that no matter how many times you you fail, you should always get up and try again, because eventually someone will see you in how you always wanted them to.
so my favorite horror movie of all time is Joel Schumacher's The Lost Boys, and it was more or less my introduction to queer yearning in multiple ways. it was pretty much my queer and polyamorous awakening back in the day, and my gender awakening more recently, not to mention that the plot itself is RIDDLED with queer yearning. Michael's desire to fit in, his draw to the rebellion and sex appeal of the vampires, David's barely subtextual seduction of Michael down to the literal line "my blood is in your veins"
I always shipp Clauhauser with one of the dancers tigger, for me seems more natural than Bogo. But l love the character development of Bogo in the short
I’ll be honest I haven’t watched it yet, I tried watching the Zootopia show but I wasn’t super into it, I might have to give it another try 👀
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MOOMINVALLLY MOOMINVALLLY MOOMINVALLY! My lord Moomintroll and snufkin! even if it’s not really new ( but it does have a 2019 show). Moomintroll and snufkin are best friends that would also yearn for each other but their problems. 1. Snufkin is more of a nomad and like to be alone and travel. Moomintroll however like to be with people he loves and want snufkin to stay with him or he goes with snufkin.
2. Moomintroll is dating a girl because he feel like that the right thing to do since he desperately wants to be like his parents, but finds himself more in love with snufkin. This also hurt snufkin because he’s cares for moomintroll but doesn’t feel like it’s the right thing because it might take away his freedom. So it’s like this back and forth thing.
They both yearn for each other and I really do think it would turn out great because the writer is gay and always wanted these two boys to get together, but since at the time she made it, it wasn’t accepted. She also was in the same situation because she was marry to a guy, but was in love with a girl. This writer is Tove Johnson and she wrote the books Moominvally, it’s really good.
That's my favorite Cinderella movie!!! Almost no one remembers it, and it's a tragedy.
Not sure if this is the proper place. I was wondering if you took a look at Disney's Descendants, particularly the undertone of indoctrination. From both the parents side but also from the school side. It is very much we are going to teach you the right way think and behave. The first side with the villianous parents is more obvious and inteaded in the story. The second the the school is doing the same thing showing them how they should act if they want citizenship and be allowed off the villian reservations might be less obvious to some. Would enjoy to know your thoughts and appologize if you already covered this topic and I missed the video.
You going to talk about Bucky and Pronk or Gary an Lary from Zootopia?
But what if the person I put my life in pause for unexpectedly died while I was waiting, and now years have passed and I'm just stuck waiting for someone that simply isn't there anymore?
Yeah I know, I brought the mood down, but I wasn't expecting to be called out by a random video I clicked on.
Another banger by the professor
Consistently great work. Foxes indeed.
What are fox furries know for?
@@Migrane0 depends on the fox. We should always approach cultures and those within by attempting to meet them as they are instead of as we prefer them to be.
I admit I was making a "all foxes are ultra horny, silly, and salacious" take, because the foxes I have met fall into that category, but that's myopic. Another common take is "fur tourism" or "all newbies are foxes." Bah. Why gatekeep?
Anyhow... it varies from fox to fox, but in some areas of the culture, there's assumptions made, which is sort of what this channel picks daintily apart. #notallfoxes maybe?
Mmm, Chief Bogo still would've been a much better and more threatening twist villain than Bellwether in the Zootopia movie or both Chief Bogo and Bellwether as twist villains would work just as well too.
I took Clawhauser's queerness utterly and completely for granted because I know *at least* three dozen critters just like him in the furry fandom, so. :D
I don't now. I feel like helping person, that name themself hetero, to break heteronormative limitations, doesn't have to make them question their implied sexuality. Even if there are queer that stuck in this limitation, and you are helping them to overcome it, if you do it ONLY to them start being your partner or give you sex then at the start you want this "tragedy" to happens. And then (this isn't about reader I hope) if after giving them help you feel entitled to attraction , sex or partnership you are the same as incels.
Edit: ( clicked enter to soon) The thing is if you start to have chemistry, and your intentions were just to help someone that hurt then maybe romantic relationship could blossom. Or what also good, maybe you help somebody or even gain good friend.
I'm still waiting for Zootopia 2
The idea of "queer yearning" implies tragedy because of something very simple: if it's not tragedy (or t least rebuffing), then it's simply called... romance. Nice vid! I''m new to the channel, and while not a furry, I'm furry adjacent and so the in-jokes are pretty great.
As a non-furry; trust me, you guys are not subtle about how you feel about foxes.
What the fuck. Zootopia has been out since 2016 right? And for 6 years I never knew clawhouser was a man
algorithmic punch!
His boss?
Clawhauser always read feminine gal who likes men to me in the og and not queer. but then again my raydar is busted despite me being tomboy. edited .. watched when Clawhauser meets Judy and Clawhauser says Benjamin and He for himself.. 🤦♀.guys i don't pay attention to side characters or go looking for queers but just enjoy the movie without thinking about it ..
I also thought the Chief head hiding his phone is him trying to show that he was not wasting time at work so he sets a good example ..
Ah, fox stereotypes. ;)
Also: acab (in case anyone needs a reminder)
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Is there a queer yearning reading of Little Mermaid? Is that anything?
Definitely a trans one! Maybe that can help?
As an NB, AFAB, I loved that movie and wore down many tapes. When you consider how phallic the castle was..... she was literally a girl who grew up in a dick coat, who rejected that life to live with a woman's bottom instead of a fish half.
Totally trans.
@@trashcatlinol I think so. I’m not trans, but my girlfriend is. I wonder what she thinks about it 🤔
@@Cdr2002yeah, I didn't think too deeply on it, but it reminded me of one of my friend's transition issues and how she felt like she was silenced for being who she was. As far as passing troubles, Ariel had magic to make it flawless, despite the built in bugs.
@@trashcatlinol yeah I see what you mean, and I hope your friend is doing alright 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
The older I get, the more I can tell when a show has queer people and/or writers of color in the room. It really gives a lot more...seasoning, as it were.
You definitely can tell!
Disney: cancels the owl house for being too gay
Also Disney: hey all of our stuff has gay people
If you know, you know.
No, it’s just Disney’s woke pandering. That’s the only reason any characters who aren’t cis straight white male ever appear. Definitely can’t be genuine changes from an increasingly diverse team. Minority demographics don’t exist in real life and so they shouldn’t exist in my media.
/S
And when that seasoning is missing, it's often not just that the meal is bland - too often it's got something noxious in it the cooks didn't even realize (or didn't care) would leave a bad taste in folks mouths.
Listening to this podcast style at work was a mistake, now I'm sobbing while grilling chicken and can't explain that it's because I relate to a chubby cheetah
Mega relatable
im sorry but this is so funny
oh my god my heart broke when you pointed out the interaction with bogo at the front desk happened AFTER the short, i hadnt noticed it before :(
great work as always, touched that forgotten queer yearning deep inside i had forgotten about but BOY it all came rushing back
22:05 maybe the reason he didn't change his expression when walking past Clawhauser is that he felt like he couldn't show sadness/guilt because of those extreme expectations put upon him. Maybe (just like with the Gazelle video) he only showed his grief at seeing Clawhauser so sad in private.
I definitely see this as both dismantling toxic masculinity and accepting your queerness. I also like to see that this as camaraderie between two queer friends which I’d love to see more of without the inevitable romantic road simply because both are queer but the ship is cute lol
I feel like I see way too many "friend" moments between queer coded characters- queerbaiting- and I really just want to see the gays being uncensored.
@@lemmymeringue8528 i do see queer bait but those aren't even queer buddies as it is just "close" buddies, neither are typically confirmed as actually queer (which is actually this short lol). A lot of media that do have canon queer characters usually have them in a relationships because it "makes sense" which is why I think it'd be nice to see queer characters that don't actually need to pursue romance to be any less queer but that doesn't mean I want less queer romance either.
@@sapphic.flower I think representing Aromantic people would probably give that kind of queer friendship for mainstream, but when specifically two, two characters of the same gender are hinted as clearly close and well ✨a little bit gay✨
Without it being explicitly stated.. it’s usually queer baiting…
"dismantling toxic masculinity" you cant dismantle something that doesnt even exist...
@@TimeMasterOG Wow, you're actually lil bit hilarious, so goofy
My favorite zootopia plus episode personally was "the real rodents of little rodentia" yes it seems very basic on the surface level but I think it's a very beautiful story about the bonds of family and such
that episode had me ROLLING 💀
My queer yearning experience as an aro/Ace (if it qualifies) is that I yearn to fall in love or have sexual attraction to others. Romance and sex is practically advertised in every single thing, so much so that it feels like psychological warfare. I used to pretend to have crushes and stuff because I always loved romance books n’ stuff. The idea of a significant other is nice, but I just can’t truly see it ever apply to myself, nor do I truly want it either. But when that stuff is so ingrained into every day life that its “what makes you human” it sure has hell leaves me wondering wth I’m supposed to be
as a fellow aro ace you described my experience exactly. sadly makes me feel very alienated sometimes
I definitely think it counts, under the 'queer yearning' umbrella of wanting to belong or 'be normal'.
I love when you talk about furry stuff, it's my favorite stuff from you!
Seeing how much y'all love watching them definitely helps keep me motivated to make more, so I'm glad to hear it!
@@Readus101 Agreed with the OP! When I found out you are a furry I was so happy to finally find an open furry youtuber that doesn't shame furries and realizes the intersection between many marginalized communities and the furry community. Even many progressive channels I watched eventually bullied Furries a bit, and it just felt counter productive because those are the same people you're trying to appeal to by being progressive. I unsubscribe from any channel bringing overly negative vibes to Furries simply because I don't need that kind of stuff in my life and I would rather support other content creators that don't make assumptions about the community and throw shade our way when we have enough to deal with and just enjoy cute anthro things.
Anyhow, your sona is cute La'Ron! You should commission more stuff of them :D I would love to see! And thanks for making awesome and introspective content. All your furry related videos make me excited to watch them every time I see them pop up, I know I'm in for a good time :3 All your content in general is great, but the furry ones are always like a special episode to me :D Thank you for making great stuff!
@@TwixtheFox as a furry myself, I see furries as mainly an online community that has an interest in anthro animals, which most people only see it as the bad parts unfortunately.
Yes
As someone who is not a furry, I wanted to add my voice in support. I totally would like to see more videos about furry stuff. I really don't like it that people only ever make fun of furries, when the overwhelming majority of them are some of the most creative and sweet people out there. Some positive and affirming videos on this topic are very much needed!
For me... Long story short I had feelings for an old highschool friend of mine. He was a grade lower than me but we were still good friends. I expressed to him via my journal how I felt about him when he read it. He nodded and we kinda just left it at that. Today he has 2 baby mommas and a girlfriend with 3 kids of her own from another relationship and he's...... Happy????????? I guess? 🤷🏾♂️
"Though, to be fair, if we were going with furry generalisations, foxes would be stereotyped for something completely different." I guffawed. (As a pine marten, there are too few of us for there to be a stereotype, but we do seem to all follow each other on Twitter.)
Honestly, queer yearning is a theme I've always enjoyed in fiction-or, well, less "enjoyed" than "felt empathetic pain over." The core subtext of adolescent queer yearning in Night on the Galactic Railroad, another piece of furry-adjacent animated media, is part of what makes it one of my favourite films ever, along with how it handles grief as the flip-side to that longing. So often longing is deeply intertwined with loss in that way, whether the loss of realising that a friend will never quite look at you in the way that you look at them, or even if they should look at you the same way… welp, I'm not gonna spoil the film! It's nice when it ends in some small victory, though, as it does in this short… initially. The film's plot builds in the sting, as you so aptly demonstrated. In any case: Neither example here may be explicit, but I dunno, with something like this, the metaphor is strong enough in itself, with both its edges in tact.
Also, as two bonus rounds for queer yearning, and very furry indeed, in the form of two very unique concept albums: The Flowers of Robert Mapplethorpe by Patricia Taxxon (an absolute emotional wrecking ball); and Twin Fantasy by Car Seat Headrest (particularly the messier, weirder 2011 "Mirror to Mirror" version).
Funnily enough, as I recall, Furscience data would suggest that foxes are slightly more likely to be heterosexual. :D
@@dinosaysrawr The straights are a bit basic, so it scans. :P
pine marten is a god damn inspired choice and I respect it deeply
I think the So you can think you can Prance was probably my favourite episode ( I mean...shirtless Bogo? yes) this video explains why. However as a hospitality worker some Australia, Dinner Rush hit very close to home.
Also went to an all boys catholic high school...the queer yearning was real
I’m a bisexual non-binary person and I’ve never felt safe enough to express my feelings or attraction to a person of my AGAB because of all the things in this video. The risk is just too high :(
"Obligatory comment on u being BI sexual, and being non binary" jk 🤣🤣🤣
Of course because somebody will attack you and kill you if you did express your feelings.
Bisexual transmasc, and I feel you. I'm perfectly happy with my relationship life now but a part of me deep down is scared that I might never have a nice relationship with a guy because of the very real possibility I could get hurt for "tricking" him
@@askerror1987 well maybe tell the person before you try to get into a relationship with them...
@@TimeMasterOG well maybe people don’t want to be fucking hate crimed? Especially trans people? Who have a high rate of being murdered?
I loves Zootopia and sold the crap out of clawhauser merch to my sweet sweet queer audience at furry cons and I didn't know this series was a thing 🤯
Clawhauser is the best :D I can't resist a cute chubby boy :P Have you been to any of the Texas cons? I go and suit every year there :D
Eponine from Les Mis is totally a queer yearning story. I would sing On My Own so much when I was younger thinking about my straight best friend at the time
......coded? A rainbow is straighter than clawhoaser. How could anyone see him as anything else?
10:30 I'd say a simplification there would be "Capitalism exploit of queer men towards Heteronormativity masculinity till they're a husk of themselves", however this might be an oversimplification, or not enough of a simplification
A queer yearning story I didn't recognize until recently was me in 3rd grade DESPERATELY wanting to be this one girl's friend. It was intense. I let this girl call me every name under the sun, y'all, so long as she was talking to me. Eventually I wised up and found better friends....after she screamed at me to stop hanging around her. And as I got older, I realized...Baby Katie, that was kinda gay. Cause I didn't just want to be her friend. I had seen us holding hands and hugging like little 3rd grade boyfriends and girlfriends did "but in a friend way I swear"
been there, her name was faith :(
SAME i used to let this girl do anything to me, call me every single name existed, order me around. Even after accepting that what she was doing to me was wrong the "i don't want to be friends anymore" felt more like a break up than anything. I was in FOURTH GRADE, and the worse thing? It happened again when I was in high school, and I still. didn't. realize. I was queer, like c'mon 💀
With everything you said, Hans Anderson's Little Mermaid sure sounds like queer yearning. I would think the Snow Queen is queer yearning story too but that one is based on Hans's hetero crush on a woman, so I am confused about that.
Anderson’s little mermaid was based on an forbidden love he had with a man. There are letters to him.
@@jesuschild07able yeah i know
welp. it turns out im smack dab in the middle of my own queer yearning story. theres a guy im pretty smitten with who seems perfect for me in nearly everyway, but he has a boyfriend already and weve only talked online. theres still some hope because hes not too content with his relationship, and he shares similar feelings for me, and well be meeting up for a convention soon.. but if he doesnt figure out what he wants after weve met in person, i think ill just have to accept we wont be anything more.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. As soon as I watched the episode I could tell there was something going on below the surface.
they’re in a happy and healthy relationship because i say so
I just got the chance to watch this video and I just wanted to say thanks for this. I just went through my own "queer yearning" disaster and heartbreak, and I found this video to be incredibly cathartic and it allowed me to breathe. She was the first person I came out as trans to and, towards the end of our friendship, she was starting to question her sexuality. But, as these stories often do, she rubberbanded and blew up at me, cutting me off. So I just wanted to thank you for the video and the lovely message at the end, and for helping me past a hurdle I was struggling with
Very interestingly on the app where i track what i watch
This episode was ranked rhe lowest and the comments were terrible calling it furry propaganda (as if the whole series and movie isnt that lol)
This was a very nice vid, I really liked the message towards the end about kinda putting yourself first even as you hope for somebody. It felt very important for me to hear that
Thank you for those kind reassuring words at the end, I really needed to hear that after being through a few tragic relationships with yearning that was never received back.. I've had some time to recover from them, but what you said really hit me, so I thank you for that; you got a new subscriber
24:28 most the literature I’ve read with queer yearning that was more positive or had happy endings was fanfiction so 🤷🏼♂️
That says a LOT, actually...😅
Literally just found out that this show exists 4 min ago, when my kids got home from school. The timing is perfection.
Thank you for making a video like this! As per the homework assignment, I’d like to share with the class, if you don’t mind, a story about a “friend of mine.”😉
So I have this friend who, just a month ago, had his first kiss (ever) with another guy. And it was the other guy’s first kiss too. There was happiness, fearlessness, and pure comfort in the magic of that night. And for two days, my friend was on actual cloud nine. Now, the other guy has a girl that he’s been close to, and while he does care about my friend, he admittedly is an asexual who, as he puts it, “isn’t a relationship type of guy”. Anyway, I’ll spare you guys the details of my friend’s struggle to get this guy to admit to liking him as more than a friend, and of the frustration and confusion that my friend feels about this guy, because, after I showed this video to him, he realized that he was, in fact, yearning for the other guy. He understands now, and he will try to find someone worthy of his time and affection.
…Is it too late to join the class, sir? I would very much like to sit down and listen to more of what you have to say.😊❤
I’m a Cis Male Afro-Carib Latino La’Ron but I appreciate all of your hard work my guy! Keep it Up! Diversity Matters!
I was like YAAAS! But then, it was all just a sweet dream. Still...yes.
Beautifully put! Thank you for that wonderful message at the end. I know it's going to help folks.
Since I found your candyman videos, I've been wishing you made a video on Zootopia. The day has come. Love your content La'Ron.
Moomintroll about Snufkin, fight me on this.
Ok this is my own queer yearning story that’s still going on and I know will have a tragic ending to this but I’ll be okayyyy. Anyways; I met someone on an app (not a dating app) and we started talking and we bonded over naming our cats after Greek gods (I have two cats; Hades and Aphrodite they have one cat; Aries) we really bonded over so many things. We talk on a regular basis, calling each other cute and hot whatever, always talking about our day and how we wished we could be closer. Our tragedy? We live on opposite sides of the country, both are which very conservative. I really crave a romantic feeling towards them and they might too but but we both have really weird commitment issues so we know we can’t be together and if we are it’s not gonna be for a long time
Your channel, fish jelly film reviews,princess Weekes and James Somerton gives me my queer life!
I haven't seen any zootopia. I thought the bogo and clawhauser stuff was cute seeing it all over furry Twitter. Now it's just sad
It's so depressing how Disney was literally built on the backs of queer writers, musicians, actors etc and it had yet to have open queer representation where characters can just say they're gay and can just be in a relationship
*gasp* La'Ron is one of US? Excellent
Impatiently waiting for Readus fursona reveal
I swear to God every single person I follow is one of you guys, how did y'all do it
Perhaps we should explore more in future Zootopia media (like in sequels or shows)
Is it ironic or is it poetic than men who could very much flourish as long as they hide their sexuality used to self-insert themselves as cis hetero women who just about 100 years ago had way less rights than them? It kinda reminds me how cis hetero women self insert themselves in BL/Yaoi relationship stories to deal with their darker impulses and desire.
I really liked the final episode. This poor otter lady was being run ragged, like she did not deserve that, especially with the cook being such an ass. But she learned her lesson for the sloths and even got a free ride to the concert out of it! Helps that my favorite punchline in Zootopia was that "Niiiiiick" moment we see at the end of this short
That one was weird to watch because I have the same name as her. :P
Well 2 stories that are basically one, when i was in high school i fell in love with a guy, who was repressed to a comedic degree, he was the only one i midly felt safe and conected to, and he kinda felt the same way, we used to lay on the grass behind the school building, he had troubles trusting people, and even had an abrasive personality to help keep walls up but he told me about his past bulling, how he got into fitness was because people, bullied him because he was a chubby boy, i was and still am a chubby boy so boy if i could relate, and it got to a point i asked if he´d ever trust again, he told me that's for the gays weird but i let it pass, one time he went to my house after we came from seeing one of his soccer matches, he was soaked because of the rain, but i wasn´t because he lend me his jacket, i told him to shower and get changed, so he went to the bathroom, while i prepare tea with lemon and honey, he got out of the bathroom asap, i asked if there was something wrong, he didn't told me anything and he just left, wet clothes on and all, next day at school i heard him talk to the popular kids of the class how he thought i was gonna assault him, i felt insulted, and heartbroken, keep in mind that he didn´t have a good relationship with the popular kids until now, and i was just passing thru so i find it sus, i don´t know if i did something wrong, or it was him, but i`ll probably never get my answer, just that i was a kid with a crush and maybe a wild imagination, or too much hope for someone that still needed more time, And second story i kinda wrote a lot in the pandemic, so i wrote a story/ show concep based on this, the protagonist has a crush on this guy since season 1, and this guy makes comments and remarks of how straight he is and at the next moment he is doing the gayest shit imaginable, so the protagonist has this hope in his head that this guy one day will figure it out that he is not straight and they will fall in love and be together, but it the third season it´s revealed that he is in fact not gay, but a lesbian trans woman, he was right, she was not straight and he ended up helping figuring herself out, yet he'll never be with them, all that yearning for someone that might never even existed.
(Forth season is the character's maturity and while i'm not sure if they'll end up as friends or acuaintances they are okay and at peace with the outcome)
sometimes it really dosen't feel like there is that girl that wants me. but it's nice to hear some reassurance now and then (how dare you make me cry with your closing thoughts tho SIR)
Me subbing for that sly furry joke
This was the talking to that I needed 🥺
The fact that I've only just found your channel fills me with queer rage (at the algorithm.) This was great, and I'm excited to watch more. I'm also gonna be on the lookout for queer yearning in the media I watch now, which will be a nice way to hone the more general "just looking for any queer coding at all."
I can't believe Disney somehow managed to 'disney-fy' one of the most tragic queer yearning tales I've ever heard [the little mermaid]. I mean homegirl split her tail into feet for the man she loved, and still, that wasn't enough. Disney truly gaslit us during our childhood.
Okay, now that I've watched the whole video through, first off I don't think a TLDR exists for what you described. I think that WAS the TLDR.
Second, probably my favorite queer yearning story is When Marnie Was There, even (or maybe especially) with the twist at the end.
well there still remain the Oryx-Antlerson's hidden-at-plain-sight married couple of bickering male next-room neighboors from Judy's apartment, Pronk and Bucky, the former done by an open-gay voice-actor and the second from Zootopia's co-director who openly outed the pair as gay canon of Disney!!!
10:54 Here's my attempt at TlDr:
Men build soceity. This makes stoicism neccesary. To a detrament of men.
I always viewed clawhauser as gay the short just solidified it. Judy's neighbors in the movie were also confirmed as a couple by the director or producer. my favorite short was the short where flash and pricilla go on a date
i have seen, and replied to, a few of James Somerton's videos (25:30-25:32); gotta get me more of his, and of yours.
gotta learn how to talk gooder, too.
Correction: more gooder.
by the by, apologies for not even starting, let alone completing, the homework assignment.
Well TH-cam rec’d your Debbie video to me and now I’ve subscribed and watched five of your videos in a row. 😍
As a fellow furry I appreciated the joke a lot
Love Zootopia, love this video. And I'm very much looking forward to the Little Mermaid video!
posted something earlier before finishing the video, now actually crying, thank you (not that I didn't know, but still really appreciated hearing it said)
need a 3rd main character for the ZPD that is an otter AKA the water fox. if you know you know.
Ooh that Somerton shout out did not age well haha, still this was a great video anyways!
Thanks! Didn't know about new Zootopia
Don't put your life on paws.....
Oh, trust me. I realized the pun after I uploaded the video. And by then, it was too late. lol
That final part was just 😢feels 😢❤❤❤
It all felt so much freedom. Really heart whelming short !
I can't believe I only just now found your channel, I'm absolutely subscribing