Another amazing video. I forget specifcally what season and episode number it was, but I would love to see the one that features Kari, Grant, and Torri testing various Hollwood car crash scenarios, which is where the line of Grant saying, "This is why we can't have anything nice" comes from. Also I would love to the one centered around breaking into safes. That's another favourite of mine.
one small thing: This was a comparison to modern equipment. But in for example world war 1 and world war 2 (where this myth could have originated), such specialized rounds may not yet have existed. So it could be much closer to a Hollywood like muzzle flash.
I would assume you have a point there but I think a more significant factor to consider here is that the target was staring at the shooter, had knowledge of their intention to shot and that they are the target. Main point of the sniper is to eliminate target from a concealed position, meaning the target is not aware they are a target and are not staring directly at the shooter ready to jump away.
They got it backwards. There is no specialized round to reduce muzzle flash. It's the movie flash round that IS the specialist round designed to be seen (they mix in more magnesium so the flash has a longer duration to be pick up by cameras and brighter flash). Smokeless powder haven't really changed since its introduction. If you want to make this argument you can say flash hiders are not in use in until early cold war. But the factor is the muzzle device, not the cartridge design.
@@pepebeezon772Flash suppressors are actually meant to protect the shooter from the muzzle flash rather than their target. I say "shooter" instead of "sniper" because snipers are hardly the only ones who use them. These things are meant for use in low-light conditions (e.g. night) to protect the shooter's natural night vision from the bright flash, so you can find them on just about any rifle, sniper or not. Now, because of this, it is theoretically possible to spot an unsuppressed muzzle flash in such conditions, but, just like with trying to spot a small pocket flashlight from a search plane, there is a big difference between the muzzle flash being 2-4 feet from the shooter's face to it being 100-400 yards from the enemy's. Even with that difference, because of the risk to their vision, the shooter would not forego a flash suppressor under such conditions anyway, so the muzzle flash is pretty much guaranteed to never be seen. Even in daylight conditions, flash suppressors are still used, especially by those who would be storming a building, where the lighting conditions can fluctuate wildly, so no matter what, no one would be seeing the flash.
More like scientist studying cool science, not many nerds have the will and intelligence to put all that thinking togheter, every episode has to take weeks to record because of the effort
i generally like mythbusters, but sometimes it makes me wanna shout at them ... how come they didn't test doding a bullet in dark??? real bullets DO have muzzle flash, unless they use specific flash hider, but from what i know, most do not. so if you're in dark, i think you'd be able to see that flash much better. it would be hard to see, but with certain ammo and sniper, it would be possible. i'd call this plausible, but very unlikely.
I feel like having people who were actually 'athletic' compared to jamie and adam would have lent more credence to the bullet dodge myth. Jamie isnt exactly "fit" or 'trained' for fast reaction times, so its probable that someone with either martial arts training or something similar might be be able to dodge much much faster.
Well falling and hitting water in an angle at high velocity like that of a skipping stone may have different outcomes, than just plain straight fall from a height.
Yesterday i just saw a video of a dude got challenged to dive into water from idk what height but its surely high. Brave dude accepted it, jumped, landed on his belly. I think its 2 or 3 strokes before he became completely motionless and big bubble of of air came out. Thats it. I've just saw a dude lost his live painfully from stupid challenge.
falling into water from height is equal to concrete is total nonsense. if that was true, then cliff diving and other types of high diving would not be possible .. people who say this are mentally disturbed with no common sense. water is able to displace itself, concrete is not. however i can think of one case where it would be equal. it's if you make 2 cylinders and in one you put concrete and in other you put water, then you drop a matching item that fills the cylinder so there's no room for water to displace itself. kind of like what grant did with the big syringes, but big enough for human size item to be dropped. however if its airtight, then air will break the fall as air has nowhere to go either, so you'd have to do it in vacuum or make some mechanism that lets air thru, but not water. then it might get close to concrete = water impact, but in normal environment water is always "softer", because it can displace itself.
My cousin and very best mate dodged a round from a .50cal machine gun mounted on a Toyota Hilux when he was in Afghanistan serving with the Australian SASR. Although, it's not exactly the same scenario as the myth, so it doesn't really count. He was part of an operation that saved a bunch of American Marines in a downed helicopter and was subsequently awarded a bronze star for what happened that day. He said he never saw the muzzle flash, but he saw the enemy notice their location and ducked for cover when he saw them point the gun at him and his boys. However one of the boys with him didn't see it, so he stood back up, tackled him to the ground and the round just barely glanced his camelback drink pack he was wearing. He's still got the camelback with the fat line of burnt fabric from the round, hanging on his office wall. At the time he was a captain and he's still in the army, although in a different capacity and at the rank of Major. I'm writing a screenplay, or potentially a mini series, based on all the stories him and his mates have shared with me over the years. It's complicated though, because of the official secrecy laws we have here and the requirement that the government has to approve pretty much everything, as they're well aware that I'm writing straight from the horse's mouth. As the saying goes. Even then I wanted to be careful what details I put in, because they make me change all sorts of things so the servicemen involved can't be identified. It's unbelievably frustrating, but they do cooperate. Sort of.
@@AkiSan0 I think he'd agree with that... Not the same as seeing the muzzle flash and moving out of the bullet's path when you were directly in its way. It's just a fun story he likes to tell over beers that has made its way into the script I've been working on. Thought it'd be fun to drop in here too. And yes, he considers it a fun story to tell. He's got some sort of weird autism spectrum disorder that makes him totally immune to experiencing any sort of anxiety, stress or trauma. It's bizarre to observe, his wife's a shrink and even she agrees. Should make for an interesting character dynamic though.
@@pepebeezon772 Really Bruh! dumbassery abounds, less light means you see less and if you think those lenses help seeing a faint muzzle flash go buy night vision goggles Bruh!
@@charleediaven6278 actually,they do help detecting muzzle flashes. there is a numberphile video with hannah fry about weights human are able to discern. smaller amounts can be perceived better. and in a sunny day situation, the more you remove the "noise" (light pollution) from the environment, the more the flash will stand out, as the fraction you are reducing it is not really anything.
Without watching the episode, I can already say no, people do not have the reflexes to dodge bullets WITHOUT READING THE SHOOTER. By purely reacting to the gun going off, no chance.
😆 Gotta wonder how many ppl will get the reference. But in reply, it wouldn't work as neither of them wore a T-shirt with a bullseye painted on it. (They missed that in the film). Talking of which, there is another episode of Mythbusters where "the technique used by Chiun" would also apply - Running on water
@@AkiSan0 Nothing is truly in-compressible. I'd wager water is less compressible than concrete or asphalt, but water is not 100% in-compressible. The water at the bottom of mariana trench is some 5% denser than it is at the surface, due to pressure. If it was in-compressible that wouldn't happen at any depth.
I haven't watched yet but the answer is no you can't dodge a bullet. The average reaction time to get your foot from pedal to pedal in a car is almost a second. Bullet are much faster
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Another amazing video. I forget specifcally what season and episode number it was, but I would love to see the one that features Kari, Grant, and Torri testing various Hollwood car crash scenarios, which is where the line of Grant saying, "This is why we can't have anything nice" comes from. Also I would love to the one centered around breaking into safes. That's another favourite of mine.
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@@johnmurcott1273 That's the one I was thinking of.
0:00 - 1:30 Intro
1:30 - 6:20 Dodge Bullet 1
6:20 - 13:54 Water drop = Pavement drop 1
13:55 - 18:32 Dodge Bullet 2
18:33 - 22:37 Water drop = Pavement drop 2
22:38 - 30:04 Dodge Bullet 3
30:05 - 34:29 Water drop = Pavement drop 3
34:30 - 42:14 Dodge Bullet 4
42:15 - 48:26 Water drop = Pavement drop 4
48:27 - 49:23 End Credits
Thanks so much genuinely
one small thing: This was a comparison to modern equipment.
But in for example world war 1 and world war 2 (where this myth could have originated), such specialized rounds may not yet have existed.
So it could be much closer to a Hollywood like muzzle flash.
I imagine the muzzle velocity of the guns of that era was much lower than modern sniper rifles too.
I would assume you have a point there but I think a more significant factor to consider here is that the target was staring at the shooter, had knowledge of their intention to shot and that they are the target. Main point of the sniper is to eliminate target from a concealed position, meaning the target is not aware they are a target and are not staring directly at the shooter ready to jump away.
@@Ping_JJT7 you should read up on counter-snipers during the winter war
They got it backwards. There is no specialized round to reduce muzzle flash. It's the movie flash round that IS the specialist round designed to be seen (they mix in more magnesium so the flash has a longer duration to be pick up by cameras and brighter flash). Smokeless powder haven't really changed since its introduction.
If you want to make this argument you can say flash hiders are not in use in until early cold war. But the factor is the muzzle device, not the cartridge design.
@@pepebeezon772Flash suppressors are actually meant to protect the shooter from the muzzle flash rather than their target. I say "shooter" instead of "sniper" because snipers are hardly the only ones who use them. These things are meant for use in low-light conditions (e.g. night) to protect the shooter's natural night vision from the bright flash, so you can find them on just about any rifle, sniper or not.
Now, because of this, it is theoretically possible to spot an unsuppressed muzzle flash in such conditions, but, just like with trying to spot a small pocket flashlight from a search plane, there is a big difference between the muzzle flash being 2-4 feet from the shooter's face to it being 100-400 yards from the enemy's. Even with that difference, because of the risk to their vision, the shooter would not forego a flash suppressor under such conditions anyway, so the muzzle flash is pretty much guaranteed to never be seen. Even in daylight conditions, flash suppressors are still used, especially by those who would be storming a building, where the lighting conditions can fluctuate wildly, so no matter what, no one would be seeing the flash.
I love how these guys are just nerds with enough funds
More like scientist studying cool science, not many nerds have the will and intelligence to put all that thinking togheter, every episode has to take weeks to record because of the effort
Were. The funds ran dry.
i wouldnt call jamie a nerd tbh
@@TakehisaYuji a generalization doesn't mean the whole universe
Did you know that grant is really the only qualified one, Jeremy and Adam are just special effects
Wonder how detectable that muzzle flash would have been in low light conditions
Props to the duck 47:35
41:32 this shot is very cool
And very close!
Another thing about the sniper myth: They knew where to look
Adam's slow-mo shot at 24:24 xD
They should've tested with the realistic muzzle flash blanks instead of the Hollywood ones, but at night time. Duh.
At night and maybe with trenches, so you just have to get your head out of the way in time
"one of the top 100 distinguised rifelemen".. makes a face like that when shooting 😆3:54
@41:20 Neo-style bullet dodging !👍
47:36 That is one chill duck.
Damn! I love Dave!
The dodge bullet is a Classic. Great episodes.
Damn! Buster took a beating this episode
The man truly is taking one for the team .
"I don't have it" - says Jamie while wearing sunglasses
If you "hear" the rifle, you're dead already ;-)
Or in different words: "If you can hear the shot, you weren't the target." XD
@@JackMacLupus True!
They also filmed Loch Ness Monster wild 47:39
RIP grant 🙏🏻
i generally like mythbusters, but sometimes it makes me wanna shout at them ... how come they didn't test doding a bullet in dark??? real bullets DO have muzzle flash, unless they use specific flash hider, but from what i know, most do not. so if you're in dark, i think you'd be able to see that flash much better. it would be hard to see, but with certain ammo and sniper, it would be possible. i'd call this plausible, but very unlikely.
I feel like having people who were actually 'athletic' compared to jamie and adam would have lent more credence to the bullet dodge myth. Jamie isnt exactly "fit" or 'trained' for fast reaction times, so its probable that someone with either martial arts training or something similar might be be able to dodge much much faster.
Hope we'll be getting the water heater episode soon.
Well falling and hitting water in an angle at high velocity like that of a skipping stone may have different outcomes, than just plain straight fall from a height.
try the myth at night time when its dark out? youd be able to see a small flash alot futher away??
Bro the show is like 2 decades old, it's over
28:14 wow why is the barell flexing so much?
It should or else it would effing explode!
And at night?
Yesterday i just saw a video of a dude got challenged to dive into water from idk what height but its surely high. Brave dude accepted it, jumped, landed on his belly. I think its 2 or 3 strokes before he became completely motionless and big bubble of of air came out. Thats it. I've just saw a dude lost his live painfully from stupid challenge.
So you’re saying they don’t just tell the myths?
No. They put them to the test!
falling into water from height is equal to concrete is total nonsense. if that was true, then cliff diving and other types of high diving would not be possible .. people who say this are mentally disturbed with no common sense.
water is able to displace itself, concrete is not.
however i can think of one case where it would be equal. it's if you make 2 cylinders and in one you put concrete and in other you put water, then you drop a matching item that fills the cylinder so there's no room for water to displace itself.
kind of like what grant did with the big syringes, but big enough for human size item to be dropped.
however if its airtight, then air will break the fall as air has nowhere to go either, so you'd have to do it in vacuum or make some mechanism that lets air thru, but not water.
then it might get close to concrete = water impact, but in normal environment water is always "softer", because it can displace itself.
7:38 Noise scream, but unpitched?
No they don't.
season 8 kari is just wow levels
indeed
22:55 Wtf is he Eminem's Uncle?
My cousin and very best mate dodged a round from a .50cal machine gun mounted on a Toyota Hilux when he was in Afghanistan serving with the Australian SASR. Although, it's not exactly the same scenario as the myth, so it doesn't really count.
He was part of an operation that saved a bunch of American Marines in a downed helicopter and was subsequently awarded a bronze star for what happened that day. He said he never saw the muzzle flash, but he saw the enemy notice their location and ducked for cover when he saw them point the gun at him and his boys. However one of the boys with him didn't see it, so he stood back up, tackled him to the ground and the round just barely glanced his camelback drink pack he was wearing.
He's still got the camelback with the fat line of burnt fabric from the round, hanging on his office wall.
At the time he was a captain and he's still in the army, although in a different capacity and at the rank of Major.
I'm writing a screenplay, or potentially a mini series, based on all the stories him and his mates have shared with me over the years. It's complicated though, because of the official secrecy laws we have here and the requirement that the government has to approve pretty much everything, as they're well aware that I'm writing straight from the horse's mouth. As the saying goes.
Even then I wanted to be careful what details I put in, because they make me change all sorts of things so the servicemen involved can't be identified. It's unbelievably frustrating, but they do cooperate. Sort of.
Who?
Who the fuck asked
thats not dodging, thats being missed.
@@AkiSan0 I think he'd agree with that... Not the same as seeing the muzzle flash and moving out of the bullet's path when you were directly in its way.
It's just a fun story he likes to tell over beers that has made its way into the script I've been working on. Thought it'd be fun to drop in here too.
And yes, he considers it a fun story to tell. He's got some sort of weird autism spectrum disorder that makes him totally immune to experiencing any sort of anxiety, stress or trauma. It's bizarre to observe, his wife's a shrink and even she agrees. Should make for an interesting character dynamic though.
gory gory what a helluva way to die!
the myth goes if u hit the water flat from a great hight.also 75 ft isn't a great hight
yeah. If We're talking, say, a mile or two up...
@@Molikai he imma be honest i posted this comment when i was half way in the episode and i didn't see the drop from the helicopter yet
Nice they took the narrator out of the closet
I might have memory loss but didn't the do a episode on this before why is it reposted
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He is wearing sun glasses, not exactly the best eyewear for detecting muzzle flashes. wtf?
Bruh, it's like you have never worn sun glasses
@@pepebeezon772 Really Bruh! dumbassery abounds, less light means you see less and if you think those lenses help seeing a faint muzzle flash go buy night vision goggles Bruh!
@@charleediaven6278 actually,they do help detecting muzzle flashes. there is a numberphile video with hannah fry about weights human are able to discern. smaller amounts can be perceived better. and in a sunny day situation, the more you remove the "noise" (light pollution) from the environment, the more the flash will stand out, as the fraction you are reducing it is not really anything.
Just such a badly edited show with too many early spoilers
Without watching the episode, I can already say no, people do not have the reflexes to dodge bullets WITHOUT READING THE SHOOTER. By purely reacting to the gun going off, no chance.
I can dodge a bullet from any distance based on just sound
Post Mortem?!
Sound logic, until logic hits you in the chest.
They should have used the technique used by Chiun.
😆 Gotta wonder how many ppl will get the reference. But in reply, it wouldn't work as neither of them wore a T-shirt with a bullseye painted on it. (They missed that in the film). Talking of which, there is another episode of Mythbusters where "the technique used by Chiun" would also apply - Running on water
@@chantrystobservatory9872 😂😂😂😂Oh yes. Lol! I haven't seen that movie in ages and you're the first person I've met that recognises it.
Good one.
Water IS compressible. It turns into a solid, a special type of ice called ice VI.
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Yis. Watir es wit.
no it is not, esp. considering human body terminal velocity. it is "shearable" but not compressible.
@@AkiSan0 Nothing is truly in-compressible. I'd wager water is less compressible than concrete or asphalt, but water is not 100% in-compressible. The water at the bottom of mariana trench is some 5% denser than it is at the surface, due to pressure. If it was in-compressible that wouldn't happen at any depth.
If you drop a human from 100km onto water, they'll turn into diamonds.
I haven't watched yet but the answer is no you can't dodge a bullet. The average reaction time to get your foot from pedal to pedal in a car is almost a second. Bullet are much faster
You haven't seen this show before have you?
@@DeadAndAliveCat every episode. What kind of dumbass comment is that?