Scion had all you'd ever need. Their mistake was failure to market, and making the iA and iQ. If the customer just came in and you showed them a red FRS, a silver tC, and a black xB and told them to pick one... Scion would still be alive.
Ehh the iA/xD weren't bad, I still see both on the road. Both were basically smaller cars (based on the older Yaris I think?) with the base Corolla engine. With gas prices as they are now, they're solid for whoever still owns them.
@@FunkatronicDingus yeah but consider the target audience that Scion/Toyota were trying to hit Bring a teenager to the lot. I’m sure with nothing else to consider most would pick an frs over an iq any day. Unless practicality is something you’d consider. Most teens/young adults don’t
I love my tc! It was my first major purchase and got me through college. Now I'm married with a family and couldn't bare the thought of parting with it when I had my son. Surprisingly enough it wasn't too bad fitting a car seat back there (I'm a petite 5'0 female). I'm absolutely thinking about modifying it and giving it a refresh. My husband has begged to buy me a new car, which I told him he can but I will never sell my tc lol. (My dad was a drag racer 🤷🏼♀️ it must be Genetic)
I drove a Toyota Avensis in west Africa and loved the car, the feel, torque, and room. When I came back to Toronto, I immediately looked for a Scion tC (same chassis)
did you by any chance grab a gray one with black stripes? I was gonna grab that one up but I missed it, so I'm going for another hopefully soon edit: I bought myself a blue one
Fun fact scion was not Toyotas first time trying to market to the younger crowd. back in the late 90s Toyota tried to group 3 cars together and called it project Genesis which consisted of the Toyota echo (later yaris), Toyota MR2 spyder and the final Toyota Celica
Can’t believe this channel isn’t more popular, the reviews are super high quality. Keep it up. Also Scion tC kicks ass, I just bought one and couldn’t be happier
I like to think this was the spiritual successor to the Toyota celica. After all it was called the TC (toyota celica). I felt it was a missed opportunity to not continue to sell the car as a Celica especially since they brought back the supra
There are rumors of both the Celica and MR2 coming back sometime soon, and that the MR2 revival will be jointly developed by Toyota and either Porsche or Lotus. If the Celica comes back I hope it will get the 300HP engine from the GR Corolla.
I just bought a blue scion tc 2nd gen! and it's my first car! I partially bought it because of this video and while it has its issues and it needs a bit of cleaning, it still feels mechanically perfect and drives beautifully!
I have a 2015 6 speed TC and absolutely love, love my car. First manual I learned to drive in and still love it. I really like that it's pretty great on fuel economy but has just enough power to be sporty.
Nothing yet but I have some plans. I dont have a lot of cash at the moment and still pretty new to actually doing anything more than majority maintenance on her.
I have a 2014 tc with the manaul and love it! Have had it 3 years and put 60k on it. Only issue so far has been the transmission. Went out 2500 miles after I got it due to the previous owner or a shop putting atf in it. Had it replaced under warrenty and it went another 25-30k till the replacements inputshaft bearing destroyed itself on #3 now and it’s doing fine. 115k going strong!
Toyotas have always been “old man cars”, “mom cars”, “grandma cars” and Scion was made to target younger people in their late teens/early 20’s but how many 18 year olds do you know that can afford a brand new car ? Lol at 18, I couldn’t even afford a $3,000 car.
The problem with Scion was that it targeted at 18-35 years olds, but older people were buying it. Scion had no price haggling. They didn't market very well
Glad some people think the tcs are great cars I own a 2012 black tc and I’m slowly modifying it and taking it to shows to represent the Scion brand in a good way haha
I have a 2016 IM and surprisingly still doing great w/fuel efficiency & never gave me problem even in the midst of snow storm considering its a FWD,,, Great car !!!
I can't believe Toyota thought 29 and 39 were young ages. And were happy with that. Car manufacturers don't understand that new cars are super unaffordable for young people and then throw insurance on top of it. Also I'm looking into a tC. I love the looks of them and the fact the back is big and it's a hatch. It's been a pain to find one. I don't want a boring color and I really want foglights but such a pain as so few were sold.
If memory serves, the Mercedes C-class coupes from the early 2000’s also had that “sample size” sun roof in the back. The fabric shade that covered the front and rear sections rolled up into the crossmember between the b-pillars
On the seats. The rear seats recline with the use of the fold down handles. Secondly, remove the front head rests> move the front seats full forward> then full recline the front seats = ultimate lounge seating. The same applies to the xB!
The Scion iM became the Corolla iM and in 2020, Toyota redesigned it calling it the Corolla Hatchback. In fact, the dash of the 2017-2019 iM is identical to the 2017-2019 Corolla sedan
I still like the tC!! I had my eye on one as my first car but, of course, Scion never really sold well in my area to start with so that quickly became not an option :((
Not a tC but instead I'm the owner of a 2006 xA 5spd. It's depressing how many xA's I see neglected and treated like trash because of how it lived in the shadow of the xB (also a great car, one of Scion's best). I love my little xA; it's such fun, reliable, easy to drive car. Almost 180,000 miles and it's still going as strong as ever. It's also quite the workhorse, considering 300+ lbs of drum and music shit travels in it very often. Despite the wear and tear, I'll continue to keep it running strong, especially in light of the gas prices nowadays.
Also had an 06 tC it was a fun car mine was the 5 speed manual I had coilovers TRD exhaust and cold air intake was such a fun little car the torque made it feel quick the interior was surprisingly spacious for how small the car was people could easily fit in the backseats and they had their own cup holder to put their drinks at and a nice big window for them to stare out of my friends would fit inside with no problem it was a fun car to go out with the big giant sunroof was so nice specially in the summer when I had all the windows down it was awesome it wasn't fast but man was it quick from a dig great fun a to b car in my opinion and the sound system was really good the speakers were loud and clear it was a pretty good car better than any other car in it's price range you got so much for your money no other cars in that price range came with any of the features the tC came with would love to get one again if I could find one
The RAV4 didn't use a 6 speed automatic transmission until 2013. 4 cylinders got a 4 speed, V6 got a 5 speed. Of course a manual transmission was available, but very rare or non existent depending on market. Plus, this 6 speed automatic transmission was probably from the Camry SE, those got the 6 speed automatic transmission regardless of engine. The other models got the 6 speed if you got it with the V6.
I had this car in sizzling crimson metallic. Gorgeous car. Too much interior plastic though. But I couldn’t stand not having a smart key. Mechanically, it was flawless.
Did you have any problems with the transmission or the clutch? I'm interested in this car but I've heard some some people talking about that it has a manual transmission problems.
@@waleedhussein3068 I replaced my transmission but to be honest, I think my car was in an accident and that is why the tranny went bad. Other than that,hiccup it's been a great car
You deserve my subscribe. The best TC body styles were the 2014-2016 I never liked the first Generation or the 2011-2013 body style. I just got approved for financing on a 2016 Scion TC with the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. It's Blue and I plan to go all out on the Exterior, a little bit on the Interior and a few engine modification bolt on's.
@@saraseveryn8650 They look aggressive and sporty, especially the one's with the 6 Speed Manual Transmissions. They're cool cars when they are modified. Lowered on Coilovers and Aftermarket wheels and a Front lip kit, plus a nice sounding exhaust.
Would you be interested in driving a fully stock, 2014 Nissan frontier desert runner with 105,000 miles? She's an amazing reliable truck and still runs AWESOME!
I got a Scion Tc 2005,. fully tuned ,. fully renewed,. full racing intake,. full racing muffler,. and I still sound better then any newer bens or audi,..
lol I understand how the average buyer of a new Toyota in the 2000’s was 54. I got the 07 Camry V6 XLE with nav, I can see why a 54 year old would be loving the Camry, it would have been since to have the 2.5 4-cylinder in the Corolla with a manual
driving the first generation tC what's your opinion on the second Gen? Which gen interior do you prefer ? The second Gen 6 speed manual is supposed to be quicker than the 1st gen 5 speed manual would have been nice if the tC you tested was manual to compare the two
@@ShootingCars Same here the second Gen has a much more attractive and aggressive look over the 1st and it's got better looking sporty cloth seats and a sporty looking steering wheel as well as 20 more Horsepower and Torque than the first gen paired with a 6 speed manual this would be a fun everyday commuter car it's got nice low end torque that makes it feel zippy when driving and it's got very decent cabin space inside for hoe small it is it's a very practical small car I would actually want to own one for myself as a daily commuter would probably drop it on coilovers put some aftermarket wheels and exhaust and would be like a fun a to b car
I owned a 2003 Toyota matrix xr super charged And a 2008 Scion xb super charged Matrix made a cool sound Scion Xb Was still boring Still miss both of them though
I like my tC but I definitely don't love it. The styling is great but the interior build quality is lacking and so is the performance. The only thing that redeems it for me is that it's a 6spd manual. Couldn't imagine having any affinity for this car in auto form. Overall just feels like totally phoned in consolation prize for not being able to afford an Si or GTI.
Your gripes about the feel of the temp and direction knobs isn't normal. I have the same bodystyle tC, just a 2013, and all of my knows for my climate control are clicky and tactile. I think you just ended up with an example that isnt a very good one. Especially being fitted with that slow sloppy automatic. The manual in this car is excellent, but a bit fragile.
Scion had all you'd ever need. Their mistake was failure to market, and making the iA and iQ. If the customer just came in and you showed them a red FRS, a silver tC, and a black xB and told them to pick one... Scion would still be alive.
Ehh the iA/xD weren't bad, I still see both on the road. Both were basically smaller cars (based on the older Yaris I think?) with the base Corolla engine. With gas prices as they are now, they're solid for whoever still owns them.
@@FunkatronicDingus yeah but consider the target audience that Scion/Toyota were trying to hit
Bring a teenager to the lot. I’m sure with nothing else to consider most would pick an frs over an iq any day.
Unless practicality is something you’d consider. Most teens/young adults don’t
No sir, horse power is the reason. If the xB had the 2.5 180hp tC 210hp xD 130hp if that was the case Scion would still be around and selling.
Scion is still alive, its called toyota lol.
Frrr
BUT. Imagine an futuristic updated xD, xA, etc
My friend had a lil blue xA. Gas sipping. Sooo cool
I see mostly older people driving these, including myself. Reliable, fun to drive, and the liftback practicality. It's a two door camry hatchback.
I am old...and I actually want one ( or an XB)
What about the fuel efficiency?
@@momoftm2116 33 mpg highway, 26 combined if I drive it hard.
@@theguy4615 do you think it's economic In your opinion
@@momoftm2116 definitely. Very solid car.
I love my tc! It was my first major purchase and got me through college. Now I'm married with a family and couldn't bare the thought of parting with it when I had my son. Surprisingly enough it wasn't too bad fitting a car seat back there (I'm a petite 5'0 female). I'm absolutely thinking about modifying it and giving it a refresh. My husband has begged to buy me a new car, which I told him he can but I will never sell my tc lol. (My dad was a drag racer 🤷🏼♀️ it must be Genetic)
I drove a Toyota Avensis in west Africa and loved the car, the feel, torque, and room. When I came back to Toronto, I immediately looked for a Scion tC (same chassis)
did you by any chance grab a gray one with black stripes? I was gonna grab that one up but I missed it, so I'm going for another hopefully soon
edit: I bought myself a blue one
I always loved the designs of the TC they always looked fun to drive. I honestly think this model should’ve continued past 2016
Fun fact scion was not Toyotas first time trying to market to the younger crowd. back in the late 90s Toyota tried to group 3 cars together and called it project Genesis which consisted of the Toyota echo (later yaris), Toyota MR2 spyder and the final Toyota Celica
Can’t believe this channel isn’t more popular, the reviews are super high quality. Keep it up.
Also Scion tC kicks ass, I just bought one and couldn’t be happier
I like to think this was the spiritual successor to the Toyota celica. After all it was called the TC (toyota celica). I felt it was a missed opportunity to not continue to sell the car as a Celica especially since they brought back the supra
tC just stands for touring coupe.
There are rumors of both the Celica and MR2 coming back sometime soon, and that the MR2 revival will be jointly developed by Toyota and either Porsche or Lotus. If the Celica comes back I hope it will get the 300HP engine from the GR Corolla.
First brand new vehicle I ever purchased, 2006 has survived through Chicago winters and summers and is just over 250,000 miles and still running
I just bought a blue scion tc 2nd gen! and it's my first car! I partially bought it because of this video and while it has its issues and it needs a bit of cleaning, it still feels mechanically perfect and drives beautifully!
How’s it doing?
@@JTeK19 the ac doesn't work, it might just be out of ac fluid but we'll have to find out
@@ethand4784 how many miles?
I have a 2015 6 speed TC and absolutely love, love my car. First manual I learned to drive in and still love it. I really like that it's pretty great on fuel economy but has just enough power to be sporty.
Do you have any mods done to it
Nothing yet but I have some plans. I dont have a lot of cash at the moment and still pretty new to actually doing anything more than majority maintenance on her.
@@KissMeFatality dont put cold air intake.
You could start with header and a tune, maybe catback exhaust. Later if money allowed, supercharger
@@Carlos.Rivera i 2nd this - I have seen too many tcs ruined with BS intake systems.
I have a 2014 tc with the manaul and love it! Have had it 3 years and put 60k on it. Only issue so far has been the transmission. Went out 2500 miles after I got it due to the previous owner or a shop putting atf in it. Had it replaced under warrenty and it went another 25-30k till the replacements inputshaft bearing destroyed itself on #3 now and it’s doing fine. 115k going strong!
I love all your content, but this is the best intro and outro that you have on your channel!
Toyotas have always been “old man cars”, “mom cars”, “grandma cars” and Scion was made to target younger people in their late teens/early 20’s but how many 18 year olds do you know that can afford a brand new car ? Lol at 18, I couldn’t even afford a $3,000 car.
The problem with Scion was that it targeted at 18-35 years olds, but older people were buying it. Scion had no price haggling. They didn't market very well
I could but had worked since 13
Glad some people think the tcs are great cars I own a 2012 black tc and I’m slowly modifying it and taking it to shows to represent the Scion brand in a good way haha
I have a 2016 IM and surprisingly still doing great w/fuel efficiency & never gave me problem even in the midst of snow storm considering its a FWD,,, Great car !!!
I love my 2010 Scion Xb. It's quirky but oh so practical.
I can't believe Toyota thought 29 and 39 were young ages. And were happy with that. Car manufacturers don't understand that new cars are super unaffordable for young people and then throw insurance on top of it.
Also I'm looking into a tC. I love the looks of them and the fact the back is big and it's a hatch. It's been a pain to find one. I don't want a boring color and I really want foglights but such a pain as so few were sold.
I'm always down for a scion review. Love the idea of reviewing modded ones like a supercharged one
If memory serves, the Mercedes C-class coupes from the early 2000’s also had that “sample size” sun roof in the back. The fabric shade that covered the front and rear sections rolled up into the crossmember between the b-pillars
I have an 08 and a 13 TC. Best of both worlds !😄
that front end really gives me Lexus CT vibes
I wanna buy one of these and put Toyota Emblems & Celica badges on it and swap The Camrys 3.5 V6 in so bad‼️
I have the exact same car with the manual transmission. I really love this car. Very sad that they aren't making anything like it anymore.
Did you have any transmission prbelms?
@@waleedhussein3068 the input shaft bearing is pretty loud, but I've never had any issues so far. I'm at 145k
On the seats. The rear seats recline with the use of the fold down handles. Secondly, remove the front head rests> move the front seats full forward> then full recline the front seats = ultimate lounge seating. The same applies to the xB!
I agree that the tc deserved to live on, at least the 86 is back.
Was the scion TC supposed to be a fun sporty daily driver?
Yeah
Yay! LOVE the SCION videos’
The Scion iM became the Corolla iM and in 2020, Toyota redesigned it calling it the Corolla Hatchback. In fact, the dash of the 2017-2019 iM is identical to the 2017-2019 Corolla sedan
That's because the iM is an Auris, which is just a hatchback Corolla :)
I still like the tC!! I had my eye on one as my first car but, of course, Scion never really sold well in my area to start with so that quickly became not an option :((
great review man, i love seeing scions on your channel
Not a tC but instead I'm the owner of a 2006 xA 5spd. It's depressing how many xA's I see neglected and treated like trash because of how it lived in the shadow of the xB (also a great car, one of Scion's best). I love my little xA; it's such fun, reliable, easy to drive car. Almost 180,000 miles and it's still going as strong as ever. It's also quite the workhorse, considering 300+ lbs of drum and music shit travels in it very often. Despite the wear and tear, I'll continue to keep it running strong, especially in light of the gas prices nowadays.
I had a 06 tc I loved that little car
Also had an 06 tC it was a fun car mine was the 5 speed manual I had coilovers TRD exhaust and cold air intake was such a fun little car the torque made it feel quick the interior was surprisingly spacious for how small the car was people could easily fit in the backseats and they had their own cup holder to put their drinks at and a nice big window for them to stare out of my friends would fit inside with no problem it was a fun car to go out with the big giant sunroof was so nice specially in the summer when I had all the windows down it was awesome it wasn't fast but man was it quick from a dig great fun a to b car in my opinion and the sound system was really good the speakers were loud and clear it was a pretty good car better than any other car in it's price range you got so much for your money no other cars in that price range came with any of the features the tC came with would love to get one again if I could find one
My 2012 tc is a great little car...i also have a 2011 Lancer Ralliart...but my tC is such a fun little car...so underated
Bought my ‘15 tC last year September full stock and planning on modding it and be a car show car
The RAV4 didn't use a 6 speed automatic transmission until 2013. 4 cylinders got a 4 speed, V6 got a 5 speed. Of course a manual transmission was available, but very rare or non existent depending on market.
Plus, this 6 speed automatic transmission was probably from the Camry SE, those got the 6 speed automatic transmission regardless of engine. The other models got the 6 speed if you got it with the V6.
I put a pop tune on my tc, super fun, super reliable with some more upgrades i think its just far more enjoyable than the frs bc of the extra space
What about fuel efficiency?
@@momoftm2116 just pump gas ⛽️ haven’t noticed a difference
I had this car in sizzling crimson metallic. Gorgeous car. Too much interior plastic though. But I couldn’t stand not having a smart key. Mechanically, it was flawless.
I own a 2011 Tc w/manual trans. Best damn car I have owned - reliable, not bad on the eyes.
Also - avoid the 1st gen TCs.
Did you have any problems with the transmission or the clutch? I'm interested in this car but I've heard some some people talking about that it has a manual transmission problems.
@@waleedhussein3068 I replaced my transmission but to be honest, I think my car was in an accident and that is why the tranny went bad. Other than that,hiccup it's been a great car
You deserve my subscribe. The best TC body styles were the 2014-2016 I never liked the first Generation or the 2011-2013 body style. I just got approved for financing on a 2016 Scion TC with the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. It's Blue and I plan to go all out on the Exterior, a little bit on the Interior and a few engine modification bolt on's.
2014-2016 Scion models look best
@@saraseveryn8650 They look aggressive and sporty, especially the one's with the 6 Speed Manual Transmissions. They're cool cars when they are modified. Lowered on Coilovers and Aftermarket wheels and a Front lip kit, plus a nice sounding exhaust.
Awesome review I may be getting one soon!
Would you be interested in driving a fully stock, 2014 Nissan frontier desert runner with 105,000 miles? She's an amazing reliable truck and still runs AWESOME!
I got a Scion Tc 2005,. fully tuned ,. fully renewed,. full racing intake,. full racing muffler,. and I still sound better then any newer bens or audi,..
for me the TC was the continuation of the Celica
Is it difficult finding parts for this Scion? At this time in 2023
No. it's all Toyota parts which are common
I had no idea they were hatchbacks
lol I understand how the average buyer of a new Toyota in the 2000’s was 54. I got the 07 Camry V6 XLE with nav, I can see why a 54 year old would be loving the Camry, it would have been since to have the 2.5 4-cylinder in the Corolla with a manual
Great Video Review!
It doesn't have a temperature gauge which my Corolla has
#bringthetCback
I really like the look of these, I would buy but they get pretty bad fuel economy so that’s what discouraged me from getting one.
Actually? Damn i guess I’m not picking one up lol
what are your thoughts on the facelift model from 2014 to the end of its run?
Wish Toyota bring this back and call it a celica
The back seats also recline!
driving the first generation tC what's your opinion on the second Gen?
Which gen interior do you prefer ?
The second Gen 6 speed manual is supposed to be quicker than the 1st gen 5 speed manual would have been nice if the tC you tested was manual to compare the two
I prefer the second gen!
@@ShootingCars
Same here the second Gen has a much more attractive and aggressive look over the 1st and it's got better looking sporty cloth seats and a sporty looking steering wheel as well as 20 more Horsepower and Torque than the first gen paired with a 6 speed manual this would be a fun everyday commuter car it's got nice low end torque that makes it feel zippy when driving and it's got very decent cabin space inside for hoe small it is it's a very practical small car I would actually want to own one for myself as a daily commuter would probably drop it on coilovers put some aftermarket wheels and exhaust and would be like a fun a to b car
I know I missed the live stream Zach if you open a po box I would send you somthing similar to the Scion arm bands for videos
#bring the tC back
I have an 07, still a running.
I owned a 2003 Toyota matrix xr super charged And a 2008 Scion xb super charged Matrix made a cool sound Scion Xb Was still boring Still miss both of them though
The Tc is the sportier car of the two. The Tc beats the Fr-S to 60 and I'm willing to wager that it's the same story around the track too.
LOL. No. The Fr-s would had the TC it's ass around a track. There is ZERO doubt about that.
I drove in my cousins. Pretty nice car
Who mad your car intro??
I sort of like the second generation one
These cars would have been awesome with a V6. 😎
It’s a Camry ! And you can get them for cheap! What’s not to like about them
I have the 2014. My brother who is 6 feet tall, drives it. It's roomy enough.
I like my tC but I definitely don't love it. The styling is great but the interior build quality is lacking and so is the performance. The only thing that redeems it for me is that it's a 6spd manual. Couldn't imagine having any affinity for this car in auto form. Overall just feels like totally phoned in consolation prize for not being able to afford an Si or GTI.
Does it support Bluetooth? Please respond somebody.
no but I imagine if you go newer than 2013 then yes
I regret not buying a new xB. CHr is weak and overpriced. i wish I could turn back time. Used xB is now rare and priced too high.
Bro said 15 degrees outside and he got a t shirt on. White people crazy Fr
White people are naturally great like that.
I do that too lolol why bother doing a heavy ass outfit when I'll spend like 20 seconds walking to my car
clean the car before your review BRUH
This car is nasty 🤢
What does Tc stand for ... Toyota Camry ? ... Since it is basically a Camry ?
Touring Coupe but the car itself was based off a 92 Celica especially in the front
Your gripes about the feel of the temp and direction knobs isn't normal. I have the same bodystyle tC, just a 2013, and all of my knows for my climate control are clicky and tactile.
I think you just ended up with an example that isnt a very good one. Especially being fitted with that slow sloppy automatic. The manual in this car is excellent, but a bit fragile.