How a Lone US Sub Destroyed Japan's Most Important Ship in WW2

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  • @Simplehistory
    @Simplehistory  ปีที่แล้ว +68

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    • @gabjulien3298
      @gabjulien3298 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @gabjulien3298
      @gabjulien3298 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @jerac7379
      @jerac7379 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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    • @MssTheatreBh
      @MssTheatreBh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t like it it took forever for me to get a new warship

    • @MssTheatreBh
      @MssTheatreBh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and the first aircraft carrier is so hard to control

  • @corymorimacori1059
    @corymorimacori1059 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    “Pycrete! You take some wood, you take some ice and you get pycrete. He pulled out a gun and the wood shattered, then shot pycrete and the bullet ricocheted and hit someone in the conference room. Then they tried to make a pycrete aircraft carrier but that idea was scraped because that’s a really dumb idea.”

    • @Einsatzkommando1945
      @Einsatzkommando1945 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      ​@HeisenbergTheOG literally no videos on your channel

    • @limwellz
      @limwellz ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pykrete*

    • @helmit_kid9755
      @helmit_kid9755 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      who is this refrencing again?

    • @memepower641
      @memepower641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@helmit_kid9755Oversimplified

    • @ChewyAmpersand
      @ChewyAmpersand ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @HeisenbergTheOG Lol, no one cares 😂

  • @blacklake13
    @blacklake13 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    Worth noting that Zuikaku, Shokaku's sister, wasn't present at Midway because, while the ship wasn't damaged at Coral Sea, its air wing suffered unsustainable losses. It also returned to port to replace planes and work-up new pilots.

    • @fighter5583
      @fighter5583 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Zuikaku could've participated at Midway if Japanese doctrine wasn't so strict. Shokaku still had more of her air wing, but Japan's navy had a "one crew, one ship" ideology that prevented mixing up air groups in the event a ship was lost. This made them inflexible unlike the U.S. navy where carrier pilots could land on any flat top if needed. Yorktown's surviving pilots took off from Enterprise at Midway when the carrier herself was lost.

    • @M4A1BestGirl
      @M4A1BestGirl ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@fighter5583Zuikaku: *Gets badly damaged*
      Akagi: *Angery Foxgirl noises*

    • @wolftamer5463
      @wolftamer5463 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@M4A1BestGirlOr smugly and arrogantly teasing her juniors for being damaged, and telling them to watch and learn, only to get rekket in the next battle 4-1.

    • @f430ferrari5
      @f430ferrari5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fighter5583this supposed doctrine went right out the window after the 4 main carriers sunk.
      Also, instead of putting it on doctrine it was simply a flawed battle plan.
      The US Naval War College already did in depth analysis and stated the IJN didn’t properly use its surface ships.
      Had they done so there were all kinds of potential combinations that could have had Carrier Zuikaku at Midway loaded with fighter planes to provide CAP.
      The IJN had plenty of pilots and A6M’s. The IJN had over 1,500 pilots in their program at the start of the war. They certainly didn’t lose very many in the 5-6 months leading up to Midway.

    • @fighter5583
      @fighter5583 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @f430ferrari5 They had plenty of pilots sure, but they didn't rotate them out as much as they should have. Most of the experienced pilots Japan had stayed on the front lines until they were eventually shot out of the sky. And their pilot training program to replace the lost expertise wasn't good enough to sustain the losses they kept incurring.
      The carrier battle of the Philippines Sea was proof of that.

  • @Johnrich395
    @Johnrich395 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    When the movie “Pearl Harbor” was released WW2 veterans were upset that they had used WW2 US aircraft carriers to shoot the shots of the Japanese planes taking off. Director Michael Bay made a statement that, “I would have loved to use a WW2 Japanese aircraft carrier, but YOU SUNK THEM ALL!”

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Which is a piss poor excuse for lazy film making. For “Tora! Tora! Tora!”, made over 30 years earlier, the built a 1.1 scale replica of Akagi’s bridge and flight deck (as well as Nagato’s starboard side), and made models of all the other Japanese carriers. “Pearl Harbor” had the advantage of CGI and a larger budget (114 million and 140 million adjusted for 2001 inflation) and yet they still settled for using modern warships and Essex class carriers for everything but the American battleships.

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sirboomsalot4902labor cost more than what it was 30 years ago, so we stopped using replicas of that scale

    • @tamisthewizard3199
      @tamisthewizard3199 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirboomsalot4902 I read that as he saved tens to hundred millions of dollars by not building his own, seems smarter than lazy

    • @LightS_bRight
      @LightS_bRight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@triadwarfareyea because actors need the money more than actual working people. I completely forgot about the world we live in.

    • @LightS_bRight
      @LightS_bRight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tamisthewizard3199is not really smart, more like greedy. I bet the actual workers and laborers don't get paid more than 50k a year or anywhere near 100k

  • @hmk5123
    @hmk5123 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Although the Shokaku was well-liked in the Navy, the pride of the Kito Butai was the Akagi, until it was destroyed at Midway, leaving Shokaku as the flagship of the Kito Butai.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This was entirely due to crew experience. Everyone knew that Shokaku was the far better design.

    • @wolftamer5463
      @wolftamer5463 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bkjeong4302Especially since Akagi was a conversion, Shokaku purpose built. Conversions were always compromises that would never be as good at their intended role as something specifically built for it. That’s why even if ships like Saratoga or Shinano were big they often had small air groups, trouble with machinery, and limited capacity for upgrades as the war went on.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@wolftamer5463
      Not only was Shokaku purpose-built, the Japanese actually intended her to be the carrier equivalent of Yamato, and both Shokakus were built at the same time as Yamato and Musashi. The limited amount of infrastructure (mostly the number of large enough drydocks) meant that Japan couldn’t build large numbers of capital ships, so they decided to go for quality instead in the late 30s, and not just with their new battleships (though they partially abandoned this idea for the carriers and began a massive carrier fleet expansion program even before PH, relying on small, new designs that could be built in smaller, more numerous drydocks). The Shokakus were thus designed explicitly as “supercarriers”, a massive quantum leap ahead from the smaller and/or less efficient earlier Japanese carriers and intended to outmatch enemy carriers individually.
      As with the Yamatos (design-wise) the Japanese came insanely close but not quite to getting everything they wanted out of the Shokakus, mostly for factors that had little to do with the ships’ design. The big one was aircraft design-the Shokakus actually had more hangar space than any other carrier of the end-30s and could thus carry a lot more aircraft in theory, but Japanese folding wing designs didn’t fold as tight as American equivalents, meaning that the Shokakus ended up with slightly smaller air wings than the Yorktowns in spite of having a lot more aircraft capacity, which wasn’t helped by the Japanese not using deck parking (though even then it was quite close). In terms of speed and durability, though, the Shokakus delivered on their promises (especially considering that all the American dive-bomber hits that damaged Shokaku over her career had much higher payloads than any of the Japanese dive-bomber hits on any of the Yorktowns). Definitely the most fearsome Axis vessels of the war and not to be taken lightly, at least not until pilot attrition had caught up with them.

    • @johnjones9065
      @johnjones9065 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we took out the japppppppp war criminals

    • @f430ferrari5
      @f430ferrari5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bkjeong4302 you say Japan wasn’t capable of building large quantities of capital ships but at the time of Midway, the IJN brought:
      11 battleships
      Had 9 carriers available. All used for Midway/Aleutians except Zuikaku.
      22 cruisers
      64 destroyers
      And more importantly, around 12-16 fleet oilers.
      The US brought to Point Luck 3 carriers with Yorktown damaged, 8 cruisers and 15 destroyers. That’s it. Think they had one fleet oiler.
      Want to discuss the US lack of fleet oilers in 1942. Nah you wouldn’t want to do that. 😂

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Even crazier was what happened to the Shinano, Japan's super aircraft carrier. It was the third of the Yamato class that was abruptly changed to an aircraft carrier from a battleship after Midway. And then ten days after commissioning while it was on route to complete fitting, it was spotted by the US sub Archerfish, and was sunk by four torpedos and claimed over 1,400 men including the captain. Japan was so desperate to keep the disastrous news hidden that the survivors were isolated on an island until 1945, and no one in the US believed the Archerfish's captain until after the war ended. The archerfish was awarded the most tonnage sunk during the war with that one ship.

    • @ChrisMattern-oh6wx
      @ChrisMattern-oh6wx ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And let's talk about Taihou, sunk by single torpedo from the sub USS Albacore (she fired three but two missed) thanks to utterly botched damage control measures that led to a massive fuel-air explosion. Japanese carriers had no luck with US subs, that's for sure. From the title of the video, I thought it was going to be about Taihou.

    • @justanothergmailaccount1353
      @justanothergmailaccount1353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Barb is still better.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shinano was not a real carrier yet. She had no shakedowns and she didn't even have bulkheads installed which made her easy to sink. She was serving as an aircraft ferry until final refitting. So when she was sunk she was an oversized/overrated aircraft ferry, not a real aircraft carrier.
      As for Taiho she was poorly manufactured unlike Shokaku and Zuikaku. At least Shokaku had to take 3 or 4 torpedoes from Cavalla to get sunk. Pretty sad that Taiho was sunk with only 1 torpedo.

  • @S0RGEx
    @S0RGEx ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Interesting thing about the Shōkaku-class is that in nearly every battle the two participated in, the outcome was the same: Shōkaku is damaged, Zuikaku escapes without so much as a scratch on her. It happened at Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, and Santa Cruz Islands. Zuikaku only took battle damage for the first time in her career after Shōkaku was sunk at Philippine Sea, and was sunk the first time she went into a battle without Shōkaku at Cape Engaño.

    • @matthewhecht9257
      @matthewhecht9257 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Her meat shield.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Zuikaku actually proved quite difficult to put down at Cape Engano in spite of being combat-ineffective even from the start of the battle, soaking up quite a bit of damage before sinking (in spite of the fact she was the main focus of the American attacks for obvious reasons).
      Not too surprising given that the Shokakus were intended to be Japan’s carrier counterparts of the Yamatos.

    • @ph89787
      @ph89787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bkjeong4302 That being said, i still view Cape Engano as a missed opportunity for Halsey, Mitscher and Ozawa to have a one on one carrier duel with Zuikaku vs Enterprise.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ph89787
      That would have been fun. Impractical and pointless, but fun.

    • @ph89787
      @ph89787 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bkjeong4302 yeah but in the words of Captain Raymond Holt. “Who wouldn’t want to see a man fight a crocodile.”

  • @alexanderleach3365
    @alexanderleach3365 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Shokaku and her sister Zuikaku are great aircraft carriers, feared by the Allies until their demise in 1944.

    • @blacklake13
      @blacklake13 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      They were certainly the best CV designs the IJN had. Still exhibited a flummoxing combination of closed, side-armored hangars with no deck armor above, which kind of defeats either purpose. However they did prove that, despite this, and unlike the other four CV's of Kido Butai, they could take punches and live to fight another day. On the whole the Yorktowns were better ships, though at least up to and through Midway the skills of their air wings couldn't compete with the IJN's (which I'd expect adds more to the reputation than the ships - all the IJN wings at that point were crammed full of combat experience and discipine. Plus the A6M was still considered something of a super-fighter).

    • @yourboishitposts
      @yourboishitposts ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No one reference azur lane

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart ปีที่แล้ว +9

      USS-Cavalla to Shokaku: SURPISE

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@blacklake13
      It’s debatable if the Yorktowns were better ships overall; they had a slightly larger air wing, but this was down to aircraft design and the use of deck parking (the Shokakus actually had more hangar space). In terms of durability it’s a wash (better ventilation vs. Better protection against torpedoes and more reserve buoyancy) and the Japanese carriers were also a bit faster.

    • @ph89787
      @ph89787 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, the US Navy did have an opportunity to build the Yorktowns up to 27,000 tonnes under the Washington Naval Treaty. If the US Navy wanted to go for quality vs quantity like the IJN did. @@bkjeong4302

  • @scottgalbraith7461
    @scottgalbraith7461 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    You don't need to sink a carrier. All you need to do is disable her runways.

    • @aran5033
      @aran5033 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Japanese work addicts would fix it back in half day

    • @jeanmatthews3899
      @jeanmatthews3899 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@aran5033 nah most of their aircraft carriers sunk with the first bombs being dropped unlike the americans, this is thanks to more standardization on the american side and aggressive tactics used on the japanese which often means lack of defence like good deck armour and poorer damage control compared to the allied side

    • @Zam_man
      @Zam_man ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yea japan used WOODEN runways on their carriers - probably not the best decision in hindsight LOL

    • @scottgalbraith7461
      @scottgalbraith7461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aran5033 half an hour.

    • @Cholin3947
      @Cholin3947 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@Zam_manmost America carriers prior to the Essex had unarmed flight decks.

  • @ryanbrown7597
    @ryanbrown7597 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    USS Cavalla is now a museum ship in Galveston, TX alongside the destroyer escort USS Stewart.

    • @LeftyWriterTx
      @LeftyWriterTx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And both vessels make for a fantastic tour.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeftyWriterTx Just a heads up to anybody if they want to see Stewart's engines (very unique because the U.S. has only two destroyer escorts left, Stewart and Slater) they should ask for the hard hat tour that is only available 3 days a week. They should plan accordingly and make some phone calls to check.

  • @user-op8fg3ny3j
    @user-op8fg3ny3j ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Shokaku lived her life just like in your average WOWs match: everything going accordingly until a sub ruins your day

    • @shadowling77777
      @shadowling77777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kek

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowling77777 what does that mean?

    • @ironfist7789
      @ironfist7789 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-op8fg3ny3j in world of warcraft saying LOL on hordeside translates to Kek alliance side. Apparently now there is also a reference to an Egyptian god and the alt-right or something, so outside of wow, I'm not sure.

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ironfist7789 WOWs means World of Warships though, not World of Warcraft

    • @ironfist7789
      @ironfist7789 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-op8fg3ny3j it can for some people, but world of warcraft has been called wow since 2004 or whatever... warships says 2015

  • @griddylord3559
    @griddylord3559 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I really love this channel, can you make more navy videos?

  • @Iphres
    @Iphres ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ve been inside the Cavalla as a museum ship in Galveston and it’s a lot smaller inside than you’d think. Only room enough for a couple of people to work engine or torpedoes at any time, cots built into the engineering area to always be at the ready, the periscope area requires climbing up a nearly claustrophobic ladder to access, you’d almost wonder how something so small could take out the Shōkaku. A single one of its peroxide torpedoes cover a quarter of the floor space! It was an enlightening visit, imagining the kind of hectic activity going on in that tight space during a battle.

  • @Masonthebaconhair
    @Masonthebaconhair ปีที่แล้ว +22

    IJN Shokaku Aircraft Carrier was a very hard ship to sink until her demise was near. They got guts to poke the Hornets' Nest and paid the ultimate price.

    • @snitchpogi1277
      @snitchpogi1277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saw that in Kancolle anime tho.

  • @andrewmontgomery5621
    @andrewmontgomery5621 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Sakura Empire aircraft carrier Shokaku:"This melody is a requiem."

    • @apollyonkurze3211
      @apollyonkurze3211 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was wondering how long it'd take to find another admiral from Azur Lane.

    • @yoseipilot
      @yoseipilot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Laugh in KanColle*

    • @apollyonkurze3211
      @apollyonkurze3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoseipilot Ya know, I keep forgetting Kancolle exists

    • @yoseipilot
      @yoseipilot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@apollyonkurze3211 There’s no denying that first original exist

    • @apollyonkurze3211
      @apollyonkurze3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoseipilot Oh, I know. I'm not denying that it exists.

  • @alm5992
    @alm5992 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    No matter which side, my heart always sinks when hearing that thousands of sailors weren't able to escape a sinking and/ or exploding ship.
    Edit: The NAVY had a lot less to do with the suffering of civilians, unlike the ARMY which deserves no respect, I agree.

    • @Tzunamii777
      @Tzunamii777 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thats the sting that always remains.
      Being trapped in a doomed leviathan....

    • @FlyingTigersKMT
      @FlyingTigersKMT ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I feel nothing but joy at IJN losses. Screw them.

    • @mauldalorian4725
      @mauldalorian4725 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I have no sympathy for the IJN, not after the horrific crimes that they did.

    • @paleoph6168
      @paleoph6168 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​​​@@mauldalorian4725I am familiar with atrocities of the IJA, but not so much of the IJN.
      Could you provide some examples (besides the Attack on Pearl Harbor)? And if possible, those done in particular by the crew of the Shokaku?

    • @FlyingTigersKMT
      @FlyingTigersKMT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paleoph6168 How about... ummm... pearl harbor? The murder of Bruno Gaido and his pilot after torturing them? The various invasions of the south Asian islands where the navy landed and took prisoners and did everything the IJA did including murder, rape, and torture? Look up the stories of the Dutch and English who were taken prisoner by the IJN.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m sure there was some sort of strategic advantage to poking the bear. Anyway, kudos to Japan’s military strategists. Because that’s what they did.

    • @luisemoralesfalcon4716
      @luisemoralesfalcon4716 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They poked the Dragon, and wiped a lot.

    • @AdmiralBlackstar
      @AdmiralBlackstar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They thought the bear would come anyway and hitting it hard enough might keep it from striking back. There is some merit to that idea and the did cripple the pacific fleet's conventional offensive arm by taking out eight battleships, at least for the immediate future. A more conventionally minded nation whose leadership was war-shy might have just taken the L, but FDR was looking for an excuse to throw down AND if there are two things Americans are good at doing it's ignoring conventional wisdom and improvising.

  • @ph89787
    @ph89787 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    “Those 2 carriers.”
    Admiral Chester Nimitz.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Nemesis Carriers.

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Pacific theatre of WW2 was undoubtedly the biggest ever naval and air battle in history.

  • @kennethbarrett3902
    @kennethbarrett3902 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always get overly excited when I see you drop a new video my wife says “we’ll good my little nerd will be happy for at least a good 10-20 minutes however the new nerd history video is” lol that being said let’s nerd out hahaha

  • @lucasthehonkaimanectric1690
    @lucasthehonkaimanectric1690 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Shoukaku class in history: the crane sisters that feard the allies
    Shoukaku in AL:
    Zuikaku: grey ghost!!!
    Shoukaku: *play flute*

  • @gavinwhite8506
    @gavinwhite8506 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Raise ur hand if ur a simple history og 🖐🏻🖐🏻👍👍💯💯💯💯

  • @perryjoejimbob
    @perryjoejimbob ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even if Shokaku had survived, the writing was on the wall. Carriers are useless without trained pilots, and Japan did not train enough pilots. The Americans believed every qualified person could be a pilot, and opposed to the Japanese class system.

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plus, a big growing population to supply your dying pilots. Immigration to Japan is nothing compared to America

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it really did not help japan at all that they started teaching their pilots to ram their planes at enemy ships

  • @nicholasmontgomery8594
    @nicholasmontgomery8594 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish you guys did a video on the Berlin Candy Bomber.

  • @Vert_GreenHeart
    @Vert_GreenHeart ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The only Shoukaku i know wears a white/red crane-sleeved kimono top with a black short skirt, white thigh highs and a silky smooth silver hair toppled with a dazzling red eyeliner and a beautiful blood red rose hair clip.

    • @ahmedbaumusvonderstamm
      @ahmedbaumusvonderstamm ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I see you are an Admiral of culture as well

    • @trazkey
      @trazkey ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You probably play Azur Lane

    • @komkitty6571
      @komkitty6571 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ngl, Shoukaku & Zuikaku are my no. 1 favorite ships. And thank to a certain game about anthropomorphic ships, I got obsessed with those 2 ships.

    • @yoseipilot
      @yoseipilot ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I see you are Teitoku culture as well

    • @SpecJack15
      @SpecJack15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@komkitty6571 Zuikaku is my fave IJN carrier.

  • @snitchpogi1277
    @snitchpogi1277 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As a fan of Kancolle and Azur Lane animate series, i really appreciate your perspective about Shoukaku-class Aircraft Carriers, thanks Simple History!.

    • @ansettwise0005
      @ansettwise0005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here comes another fellow Admiral

    • @snitchpogi1277
      @snitchpogi1277 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ansettwise0005
      I am not an Admiral but i do like watching both shows BTW.

    • @Ddnmddnn
      @Ddnmddnn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Flight Deck C H E S T

    • @Ddnmddnn
      @Ddnmddnn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@snitchpogi1277Watch kancolle S1 eps 6 the curry competition bro

    • @HammersRComing
      @HammersRComing ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ahh yes. Shokaku reminds me of that one guy who revealed his waifu in public

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    These things really deserve more attention as the absolute worst the Axis navies could send at the Allies. They actually did plenty of damage too.
    It’s also worth noting that the Shokakus were intended to be superweapons in the same vein as the Yamatos (and were built simultaneously).

    • @paleoph6168
      @paleoph6168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ay, nice seeing you here. I believe I've seen you in the comment sections of the channel Riamus and his paleo media content.
      I guess people with an interest in the prehistoric past also can be interested in human history.

    • @agentepolaris4914
      @agentepolaris4914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So they are the absolute best instead

    • @rokusai11
      @rokusai11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Shokaku sisters definitely had far better battle history than the Yamato. Yamato feels like the Japanese navy flex at engineering and feel more like a religious figure for the Japanese navy. The Shokakus definitely deserved the title of the strongest Japanese ships than Yamato, all Yamato was just "haha big battleship".

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rokusai11
      The Japanese never actually hyped Yamato up as this “religious figure” until after the war, contrary to what you seem to believe; this idea of her being this gigantic pointless propaganda piece is a falsehood, not because she wasn’t pointless (she was), but because she was never used for propaganda value. Yamato was actually kept under secrecy the whole time and was NEVER supposed to be taken seriously (the idea being that the Americans would also have no idea how capable she was if it was a secret-and the USN indeed didn’t realize it until almost at the end of the war, and it wasn’t until after she’d already been sunk that they confirmed their suspicions).
      The ACTUAL “religious figure” and symbol of the IJN was the much older and far less capable Nagato.
      Also, it should be noted this “haha big dumb Yamato” narrative is based on a major case of double standards; the reason she was useless and did basically nothing (or rather, nothing that could ever have justified her existence) was because the entire battleship concept was obsolete by that time, which applies to Allied battleships built around the same time as well; in fact, I’d argue as few as two out of the 29 WWII-era battleships ever managed to NOT be a complete strategic disaster. Yet in the popular narrative, Yamato is the only one of the lot who gets criticized for being a gigantic waste of resources.

    • @wolftamer5463
      @wolftamer5463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bkjeong4302That's true. Very few people were even aware that the Yamato's existed at all. The Americans thought the newest Japanese battleships were significantly smaller than they actually were, and had next to no knowledge of Shinano. Even the sailors and admirals on the ships themselves didn't know the ship's own specifications.
      As far as being useless, fast battleships could still be useful as escorts and add their AA to the carriers, and pull away enemy bombers from the more vulnerable carriers like when Japanese diver bombers went after the Sodak at Santa Cruz Islands instead of the crippled Enterprise.
      Even slower battleships could still be used for shore bombardment and convoy escort, both very common missions that are unglamorous but necessary and a battleship would be just as or more effective than a cruiser in.
      Ultimately, a ship cannot be judged based on just one or two major actions, but the overall strategy. And there were many things battleships could still be good at. They still had the intimidation factor and "fleet in being" concept to hold the line when carriers were running low and cruisers and destroyers might not have the firepower. For more comprehensive overviews on this stuff, check out Drachinifel. He has good talks about battleships like in his Myths and misconceptions video and shore bombardment video.

  • @Ddnmddnn
    @Ddnmddnn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flight deck C H E S T 💀💀💀

  • @GabrielRoy-q7r
    @GabrielRoy-q7r ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My great grandfather served on the cavalla his story of sinking that carrier has been passed down through the generations never forget the sacrifices of people for their country

  • @muhammadyudhi1338
    @muhammadyudhi1338 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No wonder if Japanese was second strongest navy in the world, because they have a good designed Carrier ship and elite air wing of Kidou Butai
    And also like other Japanese Aircraft Carrier, Shoukaku have a good looking design so make her more beatiful and artistic

  • @ShadowMark3_
    @ShadowMark3_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "We sank three boats. They dropped the sun on us twice."

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart ปีที่แล้ว

      we sank 2 of their carriers with submarines too

    • @paleoph6168
      @paleoph6168 ปีที่แล้ว

      Japanese government be like:

    • @wolftamer5463
      @wolftamer5463 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGhostFart4 if you count Shinano and Unryu

  • @davea6314
    @davea6314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question: What do aircraft carriers eat for breakfast?
    Answer: scrambled jets 😜
    *Unfortunately, I can't list the citation without this comment getting deleted.

  • @brunocorrea2854
    @brunocorrea2854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The title made it seem like the video was about the submarine.

  • @CaptRexSkyEye118
    @CaptRexSkyEye118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "This is Awacs Here Callsign Sky Eye, Do you Read? Today My birthday a Happy Day you would be nice (For Real Tho Sept 14 is my Birthday.) Where are all my fellow Admirals and Commanders all callsign Check in!"

  • @Minboelf
    @Minboelf ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While Zuikaku almost in every battle didn't suffer much damage, Shokaku meanwhile is a literally Bomb Magnet whenever both fight together

    • @Takomi_chan2
      @Takomi_chan2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      coral sea: got three bombs
      santa cruz: 6 bombs.. i can live..
      philippine sea: 3 torpedo hits and a plane just exploded, guess ill die..

  • @jiyuhong5853
    @jiyuhong5853 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    IJN Carriers Ranked by success
    1. Shokaku & Zuikaku
    2. Hiryu
    3. Akagi

  • @cardiv5zuikaku944
    @cardiv5zuikaku944 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone still think of a lovely silver haired girl wear headband, shortened miko uniform with arm bracers and thigh boots with propellers protuding from them. wields a bow and wears a muneate inscribed with the katakana シ (shi), often called ms unfortune because of her luck and have matured big sister personality who want to do her best, when hearing the word Shoukaku?
    Also before you said i know Shoukaku from random japanese moe game, i already lnow Shoukaku way before im into Anime, it was from Air Conflict Pacific Carrier, it is because of that game im into Shoukaku and Zuikaku and ended up loving their moe form.

    • @CaptRexSkyEye118
      @CaptRexSkyEye118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me I watched them From The History Channels and Documentaries :D, Love Both Shoukakus.

    • @cardiv5zuikaku944
      @cardiv5zuikaku944 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CaptRexSkyEye118 i used to watch Battle 360 Enterprise to know a bit about them as well, lol

    • @skytrooperss892
      @skytrooperss892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I already know Shoukaku sisters from game Pacific Front 1942 before I'm into their anime version

    • @CaptRexSkyEye118
      @CaptRexSkyEye118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cardiv5zuikaku944 Battle 360 was back then History Channel was not about aliens.

    • @shoukatsukai
      @shoukatsukai ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's my girl ❤

  • @seaeggs
    @seaeggs ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now it’s a good aircraft on world of warship with some weird halloween skins 😂

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I got that skin too: really weird. But AA at Shokaku's tier eats the paper planes

    • @Switcharoo12
      @Switcharoo12 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate boatwrap 🤦🏼🙅🏼

  • @07Alpha
    @07Alpha ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My great grandfather was witnessed the Japanese bombing of Trincomalee, ceylon which sunk the British carrier HMS Hermes.
    HMS Hermes was later discovered by some divers. But her escort vessel, HMAS Vampire is never identified.

  • @ncavis
    @ncavis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I visited the Cavalla today in Galveston, such an awesome boat!

  • @Spitfiresammons
    @Spitfiresammons ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s weird how the Japanese build strange aircraft carrier types like Shinano the biggest aircraft carrier of ww2. Please do the history of the Escort carrier aka the jeep carrier.

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shinano was originally supposed to be a battleship but was quickly converted to a support carrier after their losses in Midway
      only for her to get ripped apart by a US submarine before she even got planes.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGhostFart At that point it didn't really matter, there weren't enough good pilots left for any IJN aircraft carrier to matter.

  • @imhatchmantoo
    @imhatchmantoo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yikes.. that sinking was uh, that was terrible. I mean even by ships getting sunk in wartime standards that was pretty brutal.

    • @wolftamer5463
      @wolftamer5463 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unholy numbers of casualties can be caused on big ships. Some of the worst would have only a few hundred or less out of more than 2,000. The deadliest sinking of all time was the SS Wilhelm Gustloff in the Baltic Sea. It was evacuating civilians from eastern Prussia when the Red Army was closing in, and was overcrowded far beyond capacity. A Soviet submarine torpedoed it, and all of those people met the freezing mid-winter ocean. Nearly 10,000 people died.

    • @ph89787
      @ph89787 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar thing happened at Guadalcanal when submarine I-19 sank USS Wasp (CV-7) with three type 95 torpedoes.

  • @isaacgonzo
    @isaacgonzo ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is what i love bout these videos. I never knew bout this ship, but it seems to have garnered the legacy of a ship thats well known, like the american missouri

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cavalla, WWII-wise, did far more than the famous Missouri. Cavalla actually sank a fleet carrier! Missouri sank nothing.

    • @TheSilverShadow17
      @TheSilverShadow17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How about the "Grey Ghost" USS Enterprise?

  • @cyarxb1174
    @cyarxb1174 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun Fact: The USS Cavalla (SS-244) is now a museum ship at Seawolf Park, in Galveston, Texas.

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hi

    • @Spuggky45
      @Spuggky45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello 👋

  • @utimas1696
    @utimas1696 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A similar situation happened to the japanese supercarrier Shinano. Only one sub sunk her, the USS Archerfish. It would be awesome if you talked about how Shinano sank. 😃

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shinano was big and heavy, but it was a conversion rather than purpose built. I think the original intention was to use that ship to ferry fighters to the real carriers.

    • @utimas1696
      @utimas1696 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardthomas5362 Yep. Shinano was originally supposed to be the 3rd Yamato-class battleship, but after either the Battle of Midway or the Battle of Leyte Gulf, the japanese decided to convert Shinano from a battleship, to a carrier since they lost a decent amount of carriers.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@utimas1696
      Shinano’s construction was suspended following Force Z, then resumed with the only goal being to just get her out of her dock (without any intention of completing her), and THEN Midway happened and they decided to turn her into a carrier.

  • @pokefan-ix7sh
    @pokefan-ix7sh ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shōkaku was the lead ship of her class of two aircraft carriers built for the Imperial Japanese Navy shortly before the Pacific War. Along with her sister ship Zuikaku, she took part in several key naval battles during the war, including the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Battle of the Coral Sea, and the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands, before being torpedoed and sunk by the U.S. submarine USS Cavalla at the Battle of the Philippine Sea.

  • @suspiciousgranadier736
    @suspiciousgranadier736 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you make a video about Zuikaku next??

  • @C.A._Old
    @C.A._Old ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Can You Make History Of Cyprus island Video ? Please...

  • @jokekopter2509
    @jokekopter2509 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whiting hour guys
    👇

  • @Hfoster3
    @Hfoster3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saw the uss cavalla today in Galveston. Great history to see the ship in person

  • @cheesyfromindonesia9969
    @cheesyfromindonesia9969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reject IJN Kaga, return to IJN Shokaku

  • @PlanetLuthian
    @PlanetLuthian ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A fantastic era war drama movie made Japan called "The Battle of Archimedes" is very good theatrical story of the Shokaku and the Yamamoto

  • @KatsuMaki勝真希
    @KatsuMaki勝真希 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I had a quarter per one lone sub sinking an aircraft carrier, I'd have a dollar which is weird it happened multiple times but okay then

  • @mingshenliu319
    @mingshenliu319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In Azur Lane,she's a beautiful white hair girl that play flute to control bomber planes.

  • @ingenhk
    @ingenhk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:33 levitating plane

  • @panagea2007
    @panagea2007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The loss of Shinano, also sunk by a lone sub, may have been even more important, had it ever reached operational status.

    • @TexasHoosier3118
      @TexasHoosier3118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At that stage of the war, IJN carriers were pretty worthless. Lack of skilled maintenance personnel, skilled pilots, and US naval air power would have rendered the Shinano useless.

    • @baconpwn
      @baconpwn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really. Shinano was converted too late to become a fleet carrier. She was going to be a support carrier. Plus, at that point in the war, it would have been Shinano vs the unending Essex Horde. Not exactly a war winning matchup

  • @derkaiser420
    @derkaiser420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good think she was sent to Davey Jones with most of her crew where she belonged.

  • @corymorimacori1059
    @corymorimacori1059 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “I was saving the planet from an Axis of Darkness, while you were back home opening National Parks! Yes!” Winston Churchill

  • @zali13
    @zali13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You missed the chance to show the deck crews participating in rajio taiso😊
    Great video as always.
    By late 1944, the Rengo Kantai's large surface units were expensive fuel guzzling soon-to-be hulks. There would never be a decisive fleet battle which the High Command desperately yearned for, their Fleet God was dead, and enemy submarines were systematically dismantling the shipping between the Home Islands and their resource rich colonies in Malaya, Borneo and the East Indies, starving Japan of the necessities it needed to wage war. That is why the majority of the big fleet units were moved to Singapore or Brunei, to be close to the oil source. The battles to prevent the Americans from taking the Marianas and the Philippines were the swan song of the IJN, where they sacrificed the majority of their big fuel thirsty ships in a blaze of glory. Truly a crushing of the jewels...

    • @p.strobus7569
      @p.strobus7569 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had their decisive battles from MI to Sho-Go 1, they just kept shouting “nuh-unh, that didn’t happen” as if sheer denial could prevent decisive from being decisive. The rest of your comment is spot on, it was a crushing of the jewels.

  • @1wayroad935
    @1wayroad935 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    >Shoukaku
    MY WIFE!

  • @kevinv.m.94
    @kevinv.m.94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IJN Shokaku is greater than IJN Yamato, except for weight.

    • @JustParadis
      @JustParadis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbh almost every japanese ship is greater than Yamato, Musashi, Shinano and Taihou. They are like japanese version of Wunderwaffe

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart ปีที่แล้ว

      yamato was a floating hotel, that's a pretty low bar to climb over

  • @wendigoactual8325
    @wendigoactual8325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: America holds the record made for most rice crispys made in one second

  • @FishHatcheryGuy
    @FishHatcheryGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cavalla is on display as a museumship at the Galveston Naval Museum alongside the Destroyer Escort Stewart in Galveston Texas.

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please do units and tactics,
    the tank doctrine of countries
    navil ship cross sections (all the rooms and how it all works)
    evaluation of types of ships
    flag ship vs capital ship,
    battleship vs dreadnought
    air craft carrier strike group formations exsamples,
    better for squads to be 2 teams of 5 or 3 teams of 3,
    and probably the esayest, better to keep troops well feed or starved like an animal
    ww2 tactics in Asia, tactics in the Chinese age of warlords,
    tactics in the ruso jap war
    cold war navil tactics,
    Korean war tactics,
    strange tactics or unque battles from the American war of independence and America civil war
    tactics of platoons and bigger

  • @smtoonturkce
    @smtoonturkce ปีที่แล้ว

    *I really love this channel, can you make more navy videos?*

  • @j_mack1996
    @j_mack1996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought this was about Shinano and Archerfish.

  • @zangrygrapes4571
    @zangrygrapes4571 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your animation really improved!

  • @Crashing310
    @Crashing310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Height of 29’? 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @CARL_093
    @CARL_093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great sponsor i had playing that game right now

  • @blyatman7368
    @blyatman7368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we need more ww2 carrier vids or naval ships in general.

  • @smtoonworld
    @smtoonworld ปีที่แล้ว

    *You don't need to sink a carrier. All you need to do is disable her runways.*

    • @TheGhostFart
      @TheGhostFart ปีที่แล้ว +1

      all that requires is a few submarine torpedoes :^)

  • @christopherdempsey3878
    @christopherdempsey3878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still waiting for you guys to make a video on Sergeant Alvin York.

  • @stanleyronblake1646
    @stanleyronblake1646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gracias... saludos desde Argentina...

  • @shokaku123
    @shokaku123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video appeared on my TH-cam homepage. I guess I was fated to watch this video LOL

  • @davea6314
    @davea6314 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Question: What do you call a rubber gasket found on an aircraft carrier?
    Answer: A Navy seal 😜
    *Unfortunately, I can't list the citation without this comment getting deleted.

  • @EliteFuller
    @EliteFuller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    u should do the Ijn Taiho or hms illustrious

  • @GermanShepherd1983
    @GermanShepherd1983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would say the Shinano was the most important Japanese ship sank by a single US sub

    • @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020
      @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shinano is yet to be fully operational hence, it' importance is not yet realize

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shinano was the most worthless Japanese ship sank by a single sub. She was not operational and she didn't even have most of her equipment installed. When she was sunk she was not even an operational carrier but serving as an aircraft ferry.

  • @yoseipilot
    @yoseipilot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s terror of Pacific, not just Pearl Harbor

  • @SirGamerTheFirst
    @SirGamerTheFirst 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Skip to 8:00 for the actual event.

  • @nogoodnameleft
    @nogoodnameleft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    USS Cavalla still exists today and is a museum ship in the wonderful Seawolf Park/Galveston Naval Museum. USS Stewart, a destroyer escort, is also her neighbor. USS Texas, a pre-WWI superdreadnought battleship, will be also located in Galveston just a few miles from Cavalla/Stewart.
    Just a heads up to anybody if they want to see Stewart's engines (very unique because the U.S. has only two destroyer escorts left, Stewart and Slater) they should ask for the hard hat tour that is only available 3 days a week. They should plan accordingly and make some phone calls to check before they visit Galveston.

  • @bagoquarks
    @bagoquarks หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 5:55 the overhead view shows the Shokaku and Zuikaku with their islands on the port sides of the vessels - NOT CORRECT. Elsewhere in the video the Shokaku is correctly depicted with its island at starboard. Again, at 5:55, the sister ships are sailing AWFULLY CLOSE together.
    Otherwise I must commend you for making excellent use of what appears to be SVG animation. I did not find fault with any of the facts covered in the narration.

  • @naksunen5968
    @naksunen5968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do more of these? Like story of Kaga.

  • @cerneysmallengines
    @cerneysmallengines ปีที่แล้ว

    screw their clan in WoWs, join TSIOF @Sealord Mountbatten for the win

  • @CaptainJG95
    @CaptainJG95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually go to college just down the street from the USS Cavalla.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you visit Cavalla yet?

    • @CaptainJG95
      @CaptainJG95 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nogoodnameleft yes. She's very nice

  • @shangri-la-la-la
    @shangri-la-la-la ปีที่แล้ว

    "How a Lone US Sub Destroyed Japan's Most Important Ship in WW2" Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

  • @luisemoralesfalcon4716
    @luisemoralesfalcon4716 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice, the loss of these ships set Japan back decades in R&D plus training the sailors and pilots.

  • @gasmaskalan1771
    @gasmaskalan1771 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big boat

  • @thegoofyyy
    @thegoofyyy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to see the USS Cavalla in real life a year ago. It’s now a museum beside a famous destroyer located in Galveston, Texas.

  • @randylaffy7679
    @randylaffy7679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an awesome video. Keep up with the history videos

  • @Rix_the_rex
    @Rix_the_rex ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video simple history and thanks for the new video

  • @mobucks555
    @mobucks555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Metal Gear, Splinter Cell, Assassin's Creed. All kid stealth games compared to Silent Hunter.

  • @chlorophyll6154
    @chlorophyll6154 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder how if the Japanese aircraft carriers and German U-Boat work together in harmony...

  • @jarrodyuki7081
    @jarrodyuki7081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I take eight pills a day until may 31 and then four blue pills a day until July 4!!!!!!!!!

  • @combineeliteunit8769
    @combineeliteunit8769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came as fast as I saw the notification

  • @jacobwiles547
    @jacobwiles547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God bless our troops!

  • @ragamuffin9645
    @ragamuffin9645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    大日本帝国万歳!!🎌

  • @oz2147
    @oz2147 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The USS Cavalla was laid to rest in Galveston Tx! Visit if you’re ever in the area.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear ปีที่แล้ว

    🇺🇸

  • @bPOTATO
    @bPOTATO ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro you need to fix your animation even if it takes longer will make more views like nothing changed