GM totally overpriced the cars and the dealers marked them up even more. Plus the interest rates are still way too high for people with perfect credit. With that being said, me and my perfect credit will stay with my 2019 Grand Sport. I bought it brand new with Zero percent financing back in January 2020 when they were trying to get rid of them for the C8s.
A lot of dealers still think pandemic shortages are in effect and are unwilling to come back to reality with pricing. They had their fun and made their money during that period, now it's time for deals again!
Irony... All my life i wanted a Vette, but when I could afford it...i had kids and logistics weren't there...then my kids move out..and its the perfect time to buy one...and this is my favorite iteration...but now I just cant justify dropping 80 to 100k on a car with limited use...oh well
The base price went up $9,000.00 in 4 years for basically the same car as in 2020. I currently have a 2017 (my 5th corvette) but will be looking at something else to replace it.
Waaaaay to steep for the average joe. Going into debt for that amount and knowing that it’s a depreciating asset is not worth it to me. I guess I’ll just wait and buy wrecked.
Its a great car for the money but after a couple track days in my brothers he traded it for an M4 bc the paddles get boring w no heel n toe action. Rev matching is as far as Ill go for a fun car.
Dealers have to start discounting these cars or they will just sit . Its that simple . And i know many that are but places like Ciocca Macmulkin still only sell at MSRP ..and thats just too high
@@cgarnerspeed252can you tell me what dealer specifically? I went a few days ago to buy one in Miami and the best I could find was a C8 1lt at 77k. That was including taxes and fees
These cars are not overpriced, it’s just that a lot of the buyers are pissed off at the dealers for marking them over sticker and jerking us around for the last four years.
You’re right in that they’re not overpriced compared to Porsche or Ferrari’s. But compared to a Mustang or Camaro, they are definitely out of the price range for the average American. The greedy dealers are also not helping.
True Story 🤣 I mean to a Car Guy we know but this car is Aimed at rich assholes who can't even do a Oil Change or Brake job the 2 most basic and Needed services on a Vehicle LMFAO Maniacally 🤣🤣🤣
I hear you. I have a '17 Z06 M7 vert. I love that rawness and low end torque. I've read some who traded their C7Z for a C8Z miss that low end pull. Plus, our cars have better reliability IMO.
I’d luv to buy a brand new C8. As a matter of fact, I was even customizing my Z06 options on the Chevrolet website recently. But I was just fantasizing because the prices are so high that I can’t reasonably spend 90,000 and up on a car. Not even my beloved Vette. So I guess i’ll just keep driving my C5 a little longer and eventually buy a used C8 when they dip below $50,000. That’ll probably “only” be 10 years from now 😝
GM and its dealer network ripped off so many customers who paid over $20k to $30K over msrp. Then those that didn't want to play their silly games were treated like crap. Let them sit and collect dust. I won't be buying one... My 19 GS will serve me until I'm ready to get into another vehicle. A buddy of mine paid over $100k for a 2020 2LT. No thank you!
When you make 20k+ a year and its due for a refresh in 6 months, no way is it going to stay at msrp. Used 2020s should be in the low 50k range or lower, there are no shortages anywhere.
If things were normal 2020 c8s would be in the low 50s, but since so many people bought those cars over msrp, dealers can't lower but so much because they over paid for them.
I dumped mine this winter before it crashed. 21 stingray and i modified it. Got what i wanted but they are tanking every month. Back to Porsche for me....
Not sure what area your in but our dealers around my neck of the woods can’t keep one of these cars on their lot , they are selling them as soon as they hit the lot, just seen a Lamborghini traded in for a used 2023 c8….
My Z06/Z07 is being built, but not sure I want to wait until next year to see how much prices drop. Paperwork is not done so I could back out, but I'm not sure the wait is worth it.
They have been out for awhile where I'm from they flooded the market with them used ones are going at reasonable prices the C7s Z06s are going for high prices especially if it's a manual transmission
I am just in sales but for over 10 years. We definitely lose thousands selling some cars. Not saying at the end of the month adding in parts and service we ever lost money but definitely lose money on a lot of cars and my paycheck shows that!!
Cost of gas nationwide might affect why there are so many sitting around not getting scooped up. Let an administration come in that will allow domestic drilling and gas production and with prices going down, we'd see these flying off the shelves again.
"The REAL Reason why C8 Corvette's are still sitting in showrooms at MSRP" ? #1 The Economy in general #2 Price #3 Interest Rates. And that car is gorgeous BTW.
Worldwide every car depreciates,2020 Corvettes still fetch over 65,000$. I'm not paying that for a used sports car + I still like the C6 GS.40k & I can have a low mileage convertible.
@cgarnerspeed252 not often I moved to Greensboro when I was 10 back '83 due to mom and dad divorced.. I still have some friends there though and my dad family still lives there but. I moved to Charleston sc back in 97 so I don't get up there often all my mom side of the family lives in Jamestown high point Thomasville Raleigh area. I've heard Burlington has grown up alot I lived near Elon I actually went to Elon elementary lol
104k and you spent 20 mins and the best you could say was there is some carbon fiber as the color palette 😂 20 years ago that may have been a perk but seems kinda standard material now. I’m interested in where this 100k goin not finishing touches. Seems like you either hiding something or inadequate to be speaking to me
I was lucky to see those cars selling in my area for 65,000 to 78,000 but they have like 500 to 1000 miles on em though. 🤷🏾🤣 so yeah they are getting desperate to sell theses cars.
I think a little of it is the hard-core corvette fans who like me , though the name is Corvette , don't see it as a Corvette , it's a Ferrari knock off , all be it a good one , the performance is out of this world , I'd rather have a c5 Z06 or a modded Base C5 ....oh wait....I do 😂 yes I know it's no match but it's a real vette , not Euro supercar knock off
That price kinda seems about right for what a Z06 should cost... Not a Stingray. I cant imagine anyone with common sense paying this much for one unless they are a content creator :)
The Z51 is better than the Z06. The z06 is over nannied too many cut ins by GM. Go into a corner and hit 1G lose half the horsepower. There’s not enough fuel with one fuel pump, so you’ll either blow up your cats or lose an engine. GM was too cheap to put in 2 fuel pumps
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MSRP is way too high for this C8 or any C8 nationwide. They are sitting on dealer lots all over the country, the market has changed.
Yup I agree the market has changed
The bidet administration completely cluster fu@ked the economy. People are worried about food not corvettes
got a few under msrp at MacMulkin, Criswell and Ciocca
There were so many dealers that were treating their customers like crap just because the car was hot. Well that is over!!
Yes thats all over now!
Dealers selling cars at MSRP and acting like they are doing you a favor is insane.
That’s very true!
GM totally overpriced the cars and the dealers marked them up even more. Plus the interest rates are still way too high for people with perfect credit. With that being said, me and my perfect credit will stay with my 2019 Grand Sport. I bought it brand new with Zero percent financing back in January 2020 when they were trying to get rid of them for the C8s.
Those are amazing points!!!
At MSRP these cars are definitely not overpriced.
@leesylvester8713 Base c8 1lt is over priced.
Yep GREED at its fullest..
Keeping my 2019 Grand Sport also
I hope we see z06’s sitting in lots eventually
oh you will my friend
Ciocca
We are.
Please 🙏
Why?
Dealer should clean the bead lube off the tires and wheels, and apply tire dressing. Low effort prep.
Haha yes!!!
I was saying this as well. It shouldn’t be on the showroom floor in that condition.
@@bobboy5508 totally agree
You know, they probably saved 5 minutes so not to miss a sale! 😂
A lot of dealers still think pandemic shortages are in effect and are unwilling to come back to reality with pricing. They had their fun and made their money during that period, now it's time for deals again!
That’s a very good point
A base / fully equipped vette not so long ago was 55-60k !
That’s very true!!!
They’ll be 10-15k under msrp in no time. Just like the C7’s.
That’s very true!!
Why don't u buy ferrari for 3 time the price and less good of a var?
Got A 2023 Z51 2LT HTC Front Lift Black Exhaust MSRP Out The Door $101k, That 2024 Will Be About $110k After Taxes. No Way!! Not Now...
Totally agree
Ain't no way I paid 86K sticker price for a showroom 2024 3LT Z51. After all the mumbo jumbo it was 72K finance.😡
Irony... All my life i wanted a Vette, but when I could afford it...i had kids and logistics weren't there...then my kids move out..and its the perfect time to buy one...and this is my favorite iteration...but now I just cant justify dropping 80 to 100k on a car with limited use...oh well
I completely understand that
Buy used. They are not usually ragged out by teenagers.
@@jasonweishaupt1828 yep. I have been looking at a few 2012 with low miles
Doesn't have to be a c8 you can get C5s C6s or C7 be it Z06 , Zr1 etc for rmgood prices still. Though they have gone up
Buy a mint C4 Callaway with aero body.
The base price went up $9,000.00 in 4 years for basically the same car as in 2020.
I currently have a 2017 (my 5th corvette) but will be looking at something else to replace it.
What color is your car?
Yeah but all cars went up about 10% not just vettes. Blame the fed, Covid, joe, trump, whoever.
I'm curious, what would you replace your Vette with?
The first impression upon seeing the wheels made me think Walmart had mounted the tires. They scuffed my truck rims about that bad.
Ohhh wow! Did they fix them for you?
Red calipers and red and black interior with red stitching would make this hard to resist. Still very nice though.
Absolutely!!!!!
I distinctly remember them being advertised by Chevy at 50k for the base model. That same base model was selling for 100k or more
Yup you are right
Too damn expensive! And the dealership are greedy and crooked as hell with their jacked up prices and holding back models
Yeah people definitely notice that for sure
Waaaaay to steep for the average joe.
Going into debt for that amount and knowing that it’s a depreciating asset is not worth it to me. I guess I’ll just wait and buy wrecked.
I think you are right
Its a great car for the money but after a couple track days in my brothers he traded it for an M4 bc the paddles get boring w no heel n toe action. Rev matching is as far as Ill go for a fun car.
Dealers have to start discounting these cars or they will just sit . Its that simple . And i know many that are but places like Ciocca Macmulkin still only sell at MSRP ..and thats just too high
Yes you are right or they will sit longer
Actually both of those dealers are offering $6000 to $8000 off MSRP as they are trying to move inventory.
I think the c8 is already the most sold corvette ever and perhaps corvette produced them. If they drop below msrp, I’ll pick one up.
They are below now MSRP
@@cgarnerspeed252 then I need to be heading over to the dealership and looking at some.
@@cgarnerspeed252can you tell me what dealer specifically? I went a few days ago to buy one in Miami and the best I could find was a C8 1lt at 77k. That was including taxes and fees
With the introduction of newer model C8's, what do you think the price range will be for a used 2020-2021 convertible?
That’s a good question! It all depends on miles and spec
between $65-80k depending on mileage and options.
Good video and nice spec.
Thank you! How are you?
Simple. Overpriced.
Thats for sure one of these reasons!
These cars are not overpriced, it’s just that a lot of the buyers are pissed off at the dealers for marking them over sticker and jerking us around for the last four years.
You’re right in that they’re not overpriced compared to Porsche or Ferrari’s. But compared to a Mustang or Camaro, they are definitely out of the price range for the average American. The greedy dealers are also not helping.
@@leesylvester8713 At my Chevy Dealership thay have a Z06 marked over $25.000 because of market demand! What a crock of shit!
Amen! Just like Harley Davidson!!!
Nice looking C8
Yeah for sure!
I am sticking with my 1985 Ford Festiva sport.
Haha I hear ya
Time to upgrade.
Good thing I bought my Z06 at MSRP.. would never give 1 cent over sticker.
I respect that for sure
C8?
They should clean that gel off those wheels,& they wonder why they're not selling ,that looks like shit!
Lololol 😂🤣😂 that’s funny
They literally washed it right after I made the video too
True Story 🤣 I mean to a Car Guy we know but this car is Aimed at rich assholes who can't even do a Oil Change or Brake job the 2 most basic and Needed services on a Vehicle LMFAO Maniacally 🤣🤣🤣
So they see those gel scuffs and it's a Rap 😅
Some customers want the car exactly as produced. High silicone content tire dressing is terrible.
Every time I drive my 2019 ZO6, M7, I would never pay the money for a C8. Can’t justify the price for a C8 ZO6 either.
I completely understand that!
I hear you. I have a '17 Z06 M7 vert. I love that rawness and low end torque. I've read some who traded their C7Z for a C8Z miss that low end pull. Plus, our cars have better reliability IMO.
She’s a beauty & a queen !
She beautiful for sure
I’d luv to buy a brand new C8. As a matter of fact, I was even customizing my Z06 options on the Chevrolet website recently. But I was just fantasizing because the prices are so high that I can’t reasonably spend 90,000 and up on a car. Not even my beloved Vette. So I guess i’ll just keep driving my C5 a little longer and eventually buy a used C8 when they dip below $50,000. That’ll probably “only” be 10 years from now 😝
Yes I totally understand
Another 2 years and you can get used ones for $50k
The other issue is they will be changing the interior
oh yeah thats true
That blue interior looks tacky as hell on every color except the Miami Blue or whatever the hell it is that corresponds to it.
I completely understand
GM and its dealer network ripped off so many customers who paid over $20k to $30K over msrp. Then those that didn't want to play their silly games were treated like crap. Let them sit and collect dust. I won't be buying one... My 19 GS will serve me until I'm ready to get into another vehicle. A buddy of mine paid over $100k for a 2020 2LT. No thank you!
Yessssss!!
Front lift Change wheels and change blue interior to a light grey
Heck yeah!!
Z06 has always been my dream car. If prices come down, I'm trading my 2024 3LT Z51 in for a Z06.
Heck yeah I don’t blame ya
I watched the whole video and still didn’t see where you stated why these C8s are still sitting at the dealerships. And it’s a bunch 😂😂of
They are staying at the dealerships because they over build the cars to get a lot of money. I mentioned it in the video my friend
30K and i'm in
Hahah I know right
INVOICE PRICING ON Z06 COMING SOON.....just be patient.
Would love for you to have put the top up to get a better perspective.
In the showroom that is
When you make 20k+ a year and its due for a refresh in 6 months, no way is it going to stay at msrp. Used 2020s should be in the low 50k range or lower, there are no shortages anywhere.
That’s a very good point!!!
If things were normal 2020 c8s would be in the low 50s, but since so many people bought those cars over msrp, dealers can't lower but so much because they over paid for them.
I wish that were so but it’ll be a long time before they hit that price. Even late model used C7’s are typically $50-80,000.
All these years of automakers thumbing their nose at those of us who could never afford these cars, they are FINALLY getting what they deserve.
Yup you are right about that
All i see on the road is older vehicles, people are done with the ridiculous prices. Only a few idiots here or there with a new ride
I dumped mine this winter before it crashed. 21 stingray and i modified it. Got what i wanted but they are tanking every month.
Back to Porsche for me....
What color Porsche?
local dealer has 24 z51 HTC at 87, bright yellow, gonna see how low she goes
Keep us posted
I love C8 but overpriced like other brands (Ford Mustang, Dodge Challenger)
Where is the middle Camaro range?? GM WOULD ONLY MAKE A REFRESH!
That’s a very good point
I'll be buying a camry, pocketing the difference, and open up a CD
Heck yea
I love my new M4 competition
What color?
Not sure what area your in but our dealers around my neck of the woods can’t keep one of these cars on their lot , they are selling them as soon as they hit the lot, just seen a Lamborghini traded in for a used 2023 c8….
Where are you located?
Sure…..Let’s go with that…
@@cgarnerspeed252 western Ky
My Z06/Z07 is being built, but not sure I want to wait until next year to see how much prices drop. Paperwork is not done so I could back out, but I'm not sure the wait is worth it.
I would say get what works best for you! You only have one life!
7 spd manual trans, forget automatic trans
Hahahaha
They have been out for awhile where I'm from they flooded the market with them used ones are going at reasonable prices the C7s Z06s are going for high prices especially if it's a manual transmission
where are you located?
@@cgarnerspeed252 northern Michigan
GM: The C8 will be priced just under 60k
Consumers: You mean 120k because the engine is in the back
Lol I know right
Well the car is under $60k unless you want all the other silly things added. Like an engine, wheels, seats, you know the little upgrades. 😁
If it’s just gel then wipe it off.
True
After the fifth "As you guys can see..." I disconnected. NO SUB!!
Thank you
Where is the finished bonus room? Two car garage? When I wanted a retirement car they wanted to tax!!!!!
How’s it going?
The regular stingray isn’t that pretty! The Z06 is beautiful tho….
Absolutely z06 is a beauty
man... they need to change that interior to Black and Tension Blue... the navy just doesn't look good to me.
Bro to the point already.
Thank you
Real reason many different model of cars are not selling. Interest rates. That’s it.
That car is not overpriced! I can't wait to get one!
Yeah it’s a good car
Whats the msrp?
We cant hold onto ours sell fast. I don't even have one in stock at the moment.
Where do you work?
Simple, not enough money/expendable income
Totally understand
Agreed. After groceries, insurances, taxes no money left.
The dealer's never lose money ever..
I am just in sales but for over 10 years. We definitely lose thousands selling some cars. Not saying at the end of the month adding in parts and service we ever lost money but definitely lose money on a lot of cars and my paycheck shows that!!
Good point
Customers are taking their revenge....karma is a bitch....you gouge the customers thinking short term....and your long term will take a huge hit.
That’s a very good point my friend
That blue interior is WAY brighter and annoying in person. I’ve seen that exact spec at a dealer in Dallas. Hard no.
Hahaha completely understand
Priced perfectly. If anything they are low.
Hm that’s interesting but I can see that depending on the dealership
No, 104 is way too much for a non z06. 👎
@@roger3958Agreed. Anything over 100K for a base model is way too much.
Remember when these were supposed to be $60K?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Good point!!
…and whats the reason they’re seating???
Enjoy your channel
John
Toronto
Thanks my friend! How are ya?
I don't want a c8
I completely understand
Cost of gas nationwide might affect why there are so many sitting around not getting scooped up. Let an administration come in that will allow domestic drilling and gas production and with prices going down, we'd see these flying off the shelves again.
Cost of gas is expensive
He said he would leave the link below i Nanda 😮
Sorry! Which link are you interested in?
Nice
Thanks my friend
As soon as they touch $65k….with 65k miles or less they are gone.
This entire video is just a giant commercial Jesus Christ
Let me tell you something if you believe what ever they say you're frickin nut let them keep it for themselves
Thank you for watching
"The REAL Reason why C8 Corvette's are still sitting in showrooms at MSRP" ?
#1 The Economy in general
#2 Price
#3 Interest Rates.
And that car is gorgeous BTW.
Those are all good reasons for sure
Worldwide every car depreciates,2020 Corvettes still fetch over 65,000$. I'm not paying that for a used sports car + I still like the C6 GS.40k & I can have a low mileage convertible.
Heck yeah!!! What color would you get?
I didnt know you were from durham nc i was born in Burlington
Hahah well that where I currently live :)
How often do you visit Burlington?
@cgarnerspeed252 not often I moved to Greensboro when I was 10 back '83 due to mom and dad divorced.. I still have some friends there though and my dad family still lives there but. I moved to Charleston sc back in 97 so I don't get up there often all my mom side of the family lives in Jamestown high point Thomasville Raleigh area. I've heard Burlington has grown up alot I lived near Elon I actually went to Elon elementary lol
Coupe only with high wing !!
Yes sir!!!
Did the factory run out of coloured paint? They just started clear coating the primer? How ugly.
Lol
They need to come down but they not😅😅😅😅😅
I can see that
Yes...I need that car for my midlife crisis! 🤠
Hahahhahaha
wouldn’t do anything to it
Make sense
104k and you spent 20 mins and the best you could say was there is some carbon fiber as the color palette 😂 20 years ago that may have been a perk but seems kinda standard material now. I’m interested in where this 100k goin not finishing touches. Seems like you either hiding something or inadequate to be speaking to me
At some point the foolishness will come to a head. It's pure greed with these prices.
Totally agree
Yuck. That blue interior clashes horribly with the bluish tinted sea wolf grey. Hard pass for me.
Completely understand
I was lucky to see those cars selling in my area for 65,000 to 78,000 but they have like 500 to 1000 miles on em though. 🤷🏾🤣 so yeah they are getting desperate to sell theses cars.
For sure!!
85K n not a penny more
Totally get it
Can’t rip people off forever. How about interest rates so many people voted for?
Haha
Better to pay high interest rates to an American bank, then to pay Russian comrades.
haha! you think the U.S government controls the federal reserve?... its a private multinational bank
Nobody wants a stingray now with the Z06 out and the other models on the way
Yeah I can see that
The problem is you can’t get a manual transmission . I bought a Mustang instead . Automatics are the worst !
Hey I understand that completely!
I think a little of it is the hard-core corvette fans who like me , though the name is Corvette , don't see it as a Corvette , it's a Ferrari knock off , all be it a good one , the performance is out of this world , I'd rather have a c5 Z06 or a modded Base C5 ....oh wait....I do 😂 yes I know it's no match but it's a real vette , not Euro supercar knock off
Totally understand
That price kinda seems about right for what a Z06 should cost... Not a Stingray. I cant imagine anyone with common sense paying this much for one unless they are a content creator :)
You know that’s a really good point
I have a C8 in Torch Red and Kalahari Tan . Not a fan of these new colors.
How many miles on your car?
The Z51 is better than the Z06. The z06 is over nannied too many cut ins by GM. Go into a corner and hit 1G lose half the horsepower. There’s not enough fuel with one fuel pump, so you’ll either blow up your cats or lose an engine. GM was too cheap to put in 2 fuel pumps
Hmm interesting take my friend
So many dealers selling under MSRP now
So true!
Bronze wheels,black wheels are over.
Haha true