I think all was in Invoker's plan. he needed to remake the world so can his girl live, so he could teach her how to fix the dollhouse (the world), so she could insert herself in the old world. Remember that he made the Tower for her and that the Tower would survive anything, in other words the Tower is its own little universe.
do you think it was his plan all along tho? i started thinking that, but now im thinking that he changed his plans mid-process due to Filomena grabbing his hand so you think that Filomena was definitely in on it? who do you think Filomena was speaking to in the final sentence?
@@bridge4 I don’t believe she was in. When she was holding his hand, I think it means that she accepted her fate and OG universe have to be restore. IMO, Mirana restored balance but allow Filomena to lives since she knows what its feel like to lose someone. She gave a chance to Filomena to live in the OG universe.
@@bridge4 I think it was all along. I don't think mirana was able to make the forge not work when they went back in time, but I think the invoker finally found out filomena did not want to reshape the world. So the invoker just used the forge to bring her back and not remake the universe
hey Kev. at the tree, she told her father: "Nothing is beyond repair. Papa, I was thinking. Perhaps there is another way. A better way." the last two lines were suspicious. but im with you in terms of how i interpretted her reaching out, holding his hand, and leaning her head in. it seemed like that was a way of showing her courage in accepting her fate. or should i say, her destiny. :-P (shoutout to the feisty Oracle lol) ooh, i jsut finished reading your comment. so you think Mirana chose to bring Filomena back!?!? if so that's a dangerous move due to the butterfly effect the reason that idea doesnt resonate with me is ... if she's not afraid of the changes that will result from bringing back Filomena, why wouldn't she do the same for Davion and Marci? here's some tinfoil. i doint think there is anything here, but this is what i thought of the very first time that i watched the season. during s3, Filomena entered Mene's memories (Fymrym's memories). so Filomena walked around in Fymryn's shoes. did they form some sort of a connection due to that? in one of the final shots (right before or after Mirana found the Archronicus book), Fymryn is at the broken tower and she looked down at the coin that the Invoker gave her in Season 1. the first time i saw the ending, i had assumed that Fymryn changed appearance to look like Filomena and then rebuilt the Tower the way that Filomena would have i dont know why she would have worn Filomena's image. i'm just throwing it out there as being my first thought for whatever that's worth. but then the second time through, i noticed that Filomena had the rot on her neck, and it disappeared. so i stopped thinking it was Fymryn in Filomena disguise for lack of better words. so now i believe it was truly Filomena in the "original reality." still dont understand how tho lol
when you say "all along," do you believe his plan started all the way back in the original reality, such as when he asked for Mirana's help going to Foulfell? in other words, did he plan on Davion dying, so that he could use all eight Dragon Souls on the Forge? (i can buy into that since he did sort of mock Davion when he gave him the five. saying something along the lines of "until you die") but was his plan always to recrate Filomena in a different reality, and then come back to the old one? if so, why did he try 12,403 times to make that one work? side note: here's something im still confused about... why did he go up to the moon and release the Arc Warden so as to cause the cataclysm? i guess that doesnt make sense to me unless his plan was already to get Mirana to reshape the old reality, and somehow get Filomena there as well
@@alexm2369 for comparison.. almost all heroes or champion in MOBA industry have maybe like 3 to 5 max spells but our boy invoker in dota 2 maxing up to 10 spells / skills and what even more crazy is in early development our boy had like up to 27 and was nerfed down to 10 spells.. its said that in the lore he tend to throw and forget a spells if it was worthless according to his standard.. that show how op he is with his magic and mind thats why he is called arsenal magus also in dota lore up to 3 - 4 spells is considered genius.. if u want to check more lore about dota universe check a youtube in siractionslacks video lore about dota u will be blown away by its universe its really massive
Filomena asking “do you love me” at the end kindof worries me because that line always seemed to be the mark of the weird sort of self obsessed nature of the gods. Of course we had Selumene, but Fimryn/Mene also seemed a little more unapproachable in the new timeline. I just hope she hasn’t lost her good, kind nature now that she’s in the old timeline.
It’s pretty clear it was the Invoker’s plan from the beginning. The story about the house was the key, Filomena would only accept the universe rebuild if it would be her decision but knowing the cost of it she refuses so the Invoker pull the strings to let her think her plan is the right one. The Invoker wanted a world in which Filomena could live and probably with “this will be the last experiment” could represent that he finally understood that to achive it he needed to sacrifice himself not living with her daughter.
He also needed the world to be created by the eye itself; Mirana, the center of everything. And I'm pretty sure the invoker will only come back stronger after he masters the ways of Foulfell
I was actually shocked by how good this season was and how it made the two previous ones so much more coherent and interesting. Because back in the first season I expected some fun adventures set in the world of Dota (I've been playing Dota 2 for about 8 years, so I love the setting), and was happy with it, although I thought that many plot points were kind of thrown out there and nothing happened with them (like the dire crystal in the snow cave) and I concluded that is simply the issue of the writing. Then came the second season and I was disappointed because nothing really made sense, neither standalone nor together with season one. But season 3 subverted everything 180 degrees, the whole another reality thing answered most of the questions, filled gaps, gave a proper meaning to the events from previous seasons. My jaw literally dropped when I realized that Filomena entered Fymryn's memories, it really was happening back then, or should I say simultaneously, as Invoker and Selemene's responses matched both Fymryn and Filomena's words. It was so good. So yeah, this season made me TOTALLY change my opinion on the series, and now I know I need to rewatch the whole show from the beginning.
I was surprised too with filomenas reactions when she entered fymryns body, It was exactly what she said during the previous seasons making me think that whilst it happened it was simultaneous to what happened between 2 realities.
They prepared the field for the twist, almost sacrificing the Season two making complicated and confuse. But Man, rewatching i almost can imagine writers laughing at me.
I seriously hope we get another season, they gotta continue this after that ending, Filomena being there and healthy, Mirana being pregnant, we need to see what comes of this, I am very much intrigued especially after the Filomena reveal :) this show has been pretty damn good, what a pleasant surprise, watched it right from day one, finished every season in like a day or two, never got enough of it, props to the people working on it :) love how they gave us so many different characters and made them all play their part, such an intriguing story, very well written, fun to watch, proper old school fantasy, this is what we need!
Well, season 4 is dependent on viewer ship by fans, netflix has the say when it comes to green lit for more seasons. So spread the word so Netflix says yes. The writer of the show has ideas for Volume 2/ season 4+ but nothing has been started until green lit.
i hope the next season isnt as annoying as this one. seriously, i cant stand back and forth muti-universeseses nonsense. i quickly lost interest in the story line.
@@BobRooney290 I can understand that somebody may not really be into that sort of thing, I myself was very skeptical about that idea, but the way they executed it was very tasteful and sensical, the fact that they didnt really acknowledge that new world was really good, no bullshiting, they did the story properly, it is part of Dota as well this whole world reset so it makes sense to do it, but I think they just did it here once to complete the Invoker story and wont do that again, so I can definitely take it and again, they really did a good job with it, so I wasnt just gonna brush it off simply because of the concept itself :)
From what the dollhouse scene implies, Mirana (Artisan) simply shown the Invoker and Filomena the old world for Filomena to decide how to shape the old world the way she wants.
yep, the first dollhouse refers to all the worlds that invoker wanted Filomena to live, Filomena not liking it refers to her disease to always resurface in those worlds. The second dollhouse is as you've explained.
That moment with Bram and Kaden about the Forge was the Dragon Hold Forge, not Invokers Forge. When Kaden said that to Bram was also before they ever saw Invokers.
My favourite part is No matter how many times the Invoker recreated the Universe, he couldnt get rid of the Ancients. Radiant, Dire and The Arc Warden. Simply because they predate the universe itself. In the end Filomena's idea was the most sensible, she wanted to use the forge to strengthen Arc Warden so that he will keep the two ancients locked up
There's an after-credit scene where everything is showing with black and white and you will see Mirana's smile before she leaves the Foufel. I think it was Mirana's plan to bring Filomena. Invoker probably smiled out of appreciation.
I think that when Philomena said "do you love me" in the last scene it was a hint that she may be using the love of her father present in the Philomena flowers to cure herself like Selemene did.
This version of invoker is probably the greatest mastermind in all his infinite versions in the dota multiverse.. now looking back everything that he has done had a purpose.. although it seems that he improvised his final moments in the last season. finally can live with his daughter in peace. Invoker has been the mvp of the series hands down. No contest. The most fascinating character.
The thing that kinda frustrated me world-building-wise was that, with there being _a lot_ of godlike\beyond godlike entities, nobody ever tried to stop TB or Invoker from going on with their shenanigans. But then, at the end of S3, the writers kinda excused themselves on this point, first with Mirana recalling Oracle's prophecy(revealing that Oracle knew precisely how things would turn out), and then with Shopkeeper seemingly also being aware of what went down. Thus turning it into "yeah the big boys just let Invoker have his fun since they knew things'd be back to normal eventually".
Weaver just chillin, like: "12,000 times for a working new universe? I never make a faulty universe you fate-and reality bounded weakling. Bitch, you life INSIDE the universe? Pathetic.
I like slyrack's perspectives. Either go w the flow or fs up, either way quit worrying little mice. Perhaps the latter is a similar take the shopkeeper and oracle maintain, not so much that they dgaf. They just aren't worried about the endless silliness of their inherent reality like all the emo mice running around
i know right!?!? i didnt even have Netflix anymore. I had been wondering whether I should get it or not. Last Thursday, I woke up, and I was like "yeah, ive gotta get it for DOTA season 3" lol. and it was sure worth it =)))
I would have loved to see Auroth back, she was such a cool character! But honestly this is my favourite anime right now, absolutely in love and the quotes from this book season got me crying like a baby
She was my favourite Human Dragon too but the best part was when she shocked everyone by transforming from Dragon form into Human form but Bram's reaction was the best
That ending though, she is clearly healed the moment she touches the flowers in the garden. Did invoker finally manage to alter them to heal her and thus he kicked off the whole 12403 experiments to find a reality where he can set it up in such a way that he can bring her back? Those flowers have come up so many times. Sometimes they are dead other times not. That fucker is one sly dog. LOVED season 3. more please.
The deal between terror blade and the invoker was to give the rest of the dragons to terror blade and terror blade will create a reality where the invoker can hold his daughter's hands which means a reality where his daughter is alive . But when they reshape the reality to supposedly be the same as it was, they were in a time where terror blade was already dead so how could he fulfill his side of the deal ?..🤨
Filomena is now a goddess. The Invoker used the Forge to bring her back before it disappeared. "Do you love me?" is used mainly byy Selemene the goddess. (And only sarcastically by the Invoker while he was addressing Selemene herself). The Invoker finally decided to bring his daughter back without the disease, "letting go" of the daughter he knew for a "different me" (as Filomena describes any version of herself without the disease). I say she's a goddess because they make every effort in that last scene to show us that this is a different Filomena with a higher power level -- also, she was glowing.
I have a theory. When Filomena told her father about her sickness, she told him that to heal her he would have to turn her into someone she is not. We also know that the forge can be used for more subtle changes than simply remaking the whole universe. Therefor, I think that the Invoker used the forge and the dragon's souls to bring the Filomena from the new timline into the new one, but with a new body free from the illness. Her smile at the end seems to prove it since she would never have been happy with being brought back at the cost of others.
I see that as a possibility another is how she said the Sickness is a constant in her life. Something tied to who she was. A destiny that it will always claim her and all the Invoker could do is push it back. But since in the old world she had already died bringing her from another could have broken that binding of fate. Since she said no God, Medicine, or magic could heal her.
With the book sealed, Filomena already memorized the process (as was mentioned in one of the episode). Like the Master Craftman who made her the doll house, it was able to create a doll house of her liking and able to fix it if its broken. Mirana created/restored the world and Filomena was able to fix what is broken hence she is able to exist on the original universe.
I really liked how they did season 3. Filomena might be the next villain, but please let me be wrong. RIP Marci, i've abandoned all hope after s3 but grateful anyway for the hugs in s3. Can't wait for more Davion and Mirana and Fymryn. Can't wait for all of them.
@@sjie1874 Slyrak will be reborn again as the dragons always do (pillars of creation). Davion is already linked to Slyrak. That could be a backdoor for the writers to bring Davion back
First off i want to clarify that Kaden called Bram "Father" because he was the only dragon knight left that was very knowledgeable, like the old Father, instead of being combat focused. He was a scholar and a book nerd. When he said he could work the forge, he meant the weapon forge from Dragon Keep, not the reality forge of the Invoker. He reforged Davion's sword because he had learned the process of metalurgy from one of the many books he had read. Just wanted to clear up that confusion you had there. Now let us discuss the ending. At the end, when Filomena said "there is another way" she meant that there is a way to restore the old reality but also to restore herself (i think). When she took her father's hand she reminded him how much she loved him and so HE managed to let go of the Filomena he loved, just like in the prophecy. In every reality he had created, he would make Filomena from his own memories so in each reality she would have the disease because that was the only way he knew her. By letting go of his own idea of what Filomena should be like, he also let go of the damaged Filomena and only kept the pure love of his daughter in his heart, knowing he would never see her again. By releasing her this way he was also able to save her. When Mirana remade the reality from her memories she also brought the Invoker back with them but he brought a purified image of Filomena with him in his heart. She manifested in the old reality from his pure love of her. In the end Filomena asks "do you love me?" refering to her father, but it is a retorical question because she knows he loves her, otherwise she would not be there. This is how i see the ending anyway. What a beautiful and amazing journey this anime has been. I enjoyed all of it and it shows that american anime has come a long way almost reaching the peak of top notch japanese fantasy and sci-fi anime story telling.
After watching Arcane, I thought there was no way this series would be able to top it (being a Dota fan it was kind of annoying that LOL topped DOTA in the cinematic genre). After watching the third season... wow. I've got to say, what a story writing master class from the writers. The execution might not have been on par with Arcane, but the story was very well crafted. Although I do think one or two more episodes for each season would have helped with the pacing. The third season was a massive home run. Enjoyed every bit. I even cried towards the end :')
I also watched Arcane and Dota in that order, and having extensive experience with both games since their respective betas, i felt like I had a pretty clear understanding of the mindset and motivations of the developers behind the games. As such, i was cautiously optimistic for Arcane and had very low expectations of Dota: DB. At this point it is safe to say that Arcane is deserving of the universal acclaim it received, but Dota:db honestly had no right to be as good as it was. The only explanation i can think of, is that Valve execs took a step back and, wisely so, gave Studio Mir a lot of creative freedom. I dont know whos responsibility it was to craft the core narrative, but I think it is safe to assume that they are creative geniuses mired in passion for their craft. Although season 1 is somewhat generic, season 3 is incredibly bold and ambitious. It could easily have gone wrong and left the viewer perplexed and with a feeling that the narrative team had bitten off more than they could chew. Except it didn't. The ambitious narrative plot was actually matched with a nearly flawless execution. Arcane has no doubt set a new standard for future anime, especially for video game adaptations, but Dota:db is perhaps the biggest surprise in recent years. It had a lot against it: a cringy titel, generic industry-standard animations, and was based off an IP belonging to a financially aggressive game developer that caters to a fanbase not exactly known for their emotional depth or maturity. Miraculously they somehow subverted all that through sheer talent, and i am honestly in awe of Studio Mir. Can't wait for season 4.
@@MWaever thank you for putting into words what I couldn’t, and after being quite surprised and disappointed at the general reception this show got. Though I do not have much experience with either LOL or DOTA, so that could be part of it. But just as a stand alone experience, while the whole thing wasn’t perfect all round, and Arcane has a level of masterclass itself in its presentation, the script and writing for DOTA:DB is absolutely masterful and of the NETFLIX game adaption anime’s it’s the one that has stayed with me the most since I watched it last year. In terms of themes and plot, they somehow managed to bite off so much, and yet do it all nearly flawlessly as you say. I’m legitimately in awe at that.
I watched season three hours after it dropped and bc of it saw not many reactions to it. So glad I came across this bc it seems that people love it and I share the same sentiment
Lina got done so dirty in the alternate universe. Hardly anyone mentioned or gave a fuck she literally sacrificed herself. Such a wasted character in both seasons shes elite in every aspect
exactly the way they did her character is a perfect example of what is wrong with this season. everything they do is pointless. the important ppl are throwaways. All for an outcome that sucks. time travel that leads to a worse outcome??
I think the key to the story here is that line to Filomina that went something like "How much a burden can you carry and still live?" and I guess her answer is simply "The world as it was, but I could be there too" as seen in the story
I also agree with the theory that it was his plan all along, last season he says something along these lines to terrorblade, "You control them, I believe in who they are" - again i cant remember the line, he knew how is daughter was, the decisions she will make, he just needed her to be ready
Hey, just discovered your channel because of this video. I really needed season 3 explained coz it was so dense and I found it hard to follow, especially after they defeated Terrorblade. Thanks so much! Gonna go back and watch the explanations of seasons 1 and 2 now. Cheers! ✌
The ending is such a mystery!!! So many theories! Honestly, my theory is that Mirana brought them back to the first reality and Filomena was actually evil like her mother and the invoker had to accept it now but that was the reason why he kept changing realities in the first place because he failed her as a father. But of course if there is going to be another season than we would find out. I really hope so! Davion probably won’t return but he would have a son who acts just like him instead and would become the main protagonist.
I wonder what the 4 fundamentals (Chaos Knight, Enigma, IO, Keeper of the Light ) are doing or thinking while Invoker is just remaking the universe 12,403 times.
In my opinion, 'the world' that this show refer not the whole universe as we think. It seem just scale up to a solar system, a system forged by the hand of elder titan like many other systems by others titan. What make this special the the presence of mad moon aka the 3 big pieces of primodial mind. And I doubt that is the reason why elder titan make a huge mistake when forged it. The 8 eldwyrms is the part of fundamentals used to forge this sole world, while enigma, Io, Ck, Kotl... is the avatar of whole fundamental in all universe, all worlds that forged. So why they would give a f when a little world reset many time?
There's a season 3?! Was I under a rick all these years?! Here I am waiting for season 2 only to find out it's on season 3. Thank you for sharing. Gratitude.
What if Invorker actually used the forge before if fell down. But instead of remaking the reality he made a subtle change using Filomina's theory. Instead of killing the eldwyrm he only tapped into their power. We do see the Forge working for a few second when Mirana brought back the first reality so there's a high possibility than Invorker working with Terroblade
Kaden was referring to the forge at dragonhold that makes dragon infused weapons and armor. I don't even understand how you could confuse this unless you didn't actually watch it.
my biggest problem with this show is how Mirana could get pregnant? there is literally no time for them to mate at all unless when she remake the world she had rapid split second sex lmfao
Invoker speaks about how 'causality was the second lesson' when he is referring to using the forge. It's possible that rather than taking Terroblades deal, he rather worked out how to bend causality such that his daughter could be in the original world, perhaps the tower was in a pocket dimension (it was, after all, in ruin at the end of season 3). Whatever way he achieved it, this is what I believe happened. However, I don't think everything was planned by him after he first used the forge. I think he originally didn't know of a way to recreate the original world, and stubbornly kept remaking new realities, but eventually realised Mirana could remake it.
I dont know if some of u notice but in season 2 invoker put selemene power into the flower which was absorbed by filomena to seemingly heal.. So when people say filomena transcended and become like mene I think i agree with that conclusion...
I think in the end, it was Filomena and also it was Fymryn/Mene, maybe somehow their minds connected eachother in the new world itteration(it become previous now). We saw Fymryn at the tower and after cutscene we saw Filomena fixing the tower, I think it was Mene but she also has mind of Filomena and Filomena we saw was just her image by Mene and when we saw her wounds become healing, it was actually not healing, Fymrin/Mene chaging her look to herself back and the last word: "do you love me?" this word almost always told by Mene :) Also when you look at the tower fixing "magic" it doesn't look like magic of Invoker or Filomena, the shape of it look like Moon magic by Mene.
I think the "do you love me?" line was a reference to what a goddess would ask. I think her returning and the the construct of the new tower suggests Filomena tapping into the moon's power. Maybe that was the root of her cure? Was it not Selemene that had the ability to cure her in the first season?
Am I the only one who finds it ridiculous that davion dies? I mean there are 2 gods present one that has the power to change entire universes. The other one is not weak either. Besides, it was said about Filomena that not even making her immortal stops the rot. And then she is still in the universe where she died long ago suddenly with cured rot. Then it wouldn't have been so hard for Mirana to rewrite the death of Davion or the one who brought Filomena to the Old Reality. And no I have no problem with nice characters dying I also love Demon slayer but there the deaths make sense. I just can't get my head around the fact that you can create whole universes according to your will but you can't heal one little person Please I need more opinions on this?
davion said be he dead and mirana said no more rewrite .maybe davions dead means elder dragons real end and not living him means now only this world will exist ?
If I understand what you're saying, it's like you're assuming that the goddesses, or at least Mirana, had something to do with Filomena returning. She didn't bring Filomena to life. It's most likely the Invoker who did. By all indications from that last scene, my conclusion is that this is a "different" Filomena (she said the disease was part of her, and that if she was brought back without it, it would be a "different" her). So, the Invoker finally decided to accept that perhaps.
I don't know if Mirana (or Fymryn) can bring back the dead. Even if they could, they are young gods; and the Invoker told Mirana "you don't understand one-thousandth of your power" or something like that
Was kinda annoying how weak Davion was when he wasn't buffed up on all that dragon juice. I realise it's a different reality where he's not been through all the shit he had in the original reality but he could barely hold his own against that "Hell Bear" in the earlier episodes - he slays dragons for a living for christs sake. It's a shame he's a goner because he was by far my favourite character. Still, what a cliff hanger ending. Getting the feeling that filomena is going to be trouble in the next series.
So basically, by having someone else make the "doll house" then figuring it out/fixing it, Filomena was able to live by altering the world Mirana created? Also the Oracle said, "You will travel into darkness, and save what you love by allowing what you've loved to die." Does the 'what' include Marci and Davion? They did die in the end, so if they 'what' includes them? Where exactly would the save part be? If there's a Season 4 maybe they'll include those two in the 'save' part?
No bram knows how to forge dragon scale weapons and armor like kaden has, there isn’t any way that beam could know how to use the forge or even know it exists
Invoker said that the place was built for Filomena to survive so when Mirana rebuilt the previous world by destroying the new, it didn't took Filomena with it. The only one who remembered was Mirana since she was a constant but she didn't know that Filomena would "cross over" so to speak. What confuses me is how she cured her disease when the Invoker himself couldn't do it even with thousands of iterations under his belt. Terrorblade is no more as he was destroyed outside time so I couldn't see that his bargain with the Invoker still exists.
i began watching DOTA at 5am Thursday lol. i kept spinning my wheels on what happened, so i watched the season over and over (and im still not sure lol). i basically put in four straight 14+ hour days on this 4 hour show plus another 5 this morning granted, 10 hours yesterday and the 5 today were all just trying to deal with audio issues. but still, if we exclude the tech issues, i still spent like 46 hours on this friggen video and this is the best i could come up with LOL
I just really hope we get to see the other heroes that were shown in one of those episodes like windranger,Phantom Lancer and Axe and how they affected the storyline. Also,really hope to see how Jakiro is borned since Jakiro is the son of Auroth,the Wynter Wyvern so Bram must have something up his sleeve before Auroth died. And what happen to Rylai after she found out that her sister,Lina died.
I dont know why i couldnt see that Kayden was Davion's father, that Mirana is pregnant, and that Filomena is back in the new-old world, the only thing I noticed was the grin on the Invoker's face followed by Filomena holding the flower but I didnt make the connection, thank you incredible explanation
I'm hoping to see the sory of the other characters as well. Like Juggernaut, Sven, Axe. The primordials beings, elder titan the creator, IO the blob that existed before existence, Enigma, AA, Void(both of them). Or the other devils like, Doom or Shadow Fiend(especially his master burns my curiosity), Spirit Breaker, Blood seeker, Naix(same with theirs masters) There is so much to cover. I hope they keep doing it and cover the rest of the heroes as well. Thos season really saved the whole series, as it made the most sense (to the game) till now, and it was so much well put togeter compared to the other 2.
pretty sure kaiden was referring to a different forge, one is the dragonhold forge of armor (which we also saw season 2 i think) and invokers forge is the forge of creation(you can look up Elder Titans lorepage for that)
can you expand on that please? i do recall Terrorblade (through Drysi) and the Invoker mentioning the Shopkeepers covenant when discussing a new deal, but the i couldnt truly understand what they were implying in that back and forth. are you able to put it into layman's terms?
@@bridge4 Shopkeeper's covenant have a very complex rule over everything because they hold the dearest relics to pass it to the people in need. From what I remember Oracle got his orb from them. If you somehow break a contract with them, any curse from any source can find you. One interesting example is that someone stole the aegis(the reincarnation stone) from them and that made that guy to turn into a monster to be slain again and again, only to pass fragments of aegis to those in need. The creature is called Roshan.
@@bridge4 In the DOTA game there is a creature called Roshan. He is super powerful and usually you can only kill him with your whole team and after you level up enough and got strong items. Every time Roshan dies he comes back to life in exactly the same place after like 5-8 minutes. He is basically cursed with immortality because he stole from a shopkeeper. Shopkeepers seem to be the most protected people in the whole lore. Not sure where this protection comes from though, probably not from gods because even they can get cursed once a shopkeepers rule is broken. Also they can do whatever they want, charge enormous sums for items and relics or not charge anything at all, as you saw in the first season when he gave the gem to Mirana for free, which allowed her to see Invoker's tower.
What was interesting is that Selemene told Fymryn that Mene was once mad like her which was likely why the Invoker and Selemene killed the Moon Goddess. I don't know what made Mene mad or insane but it likely has to do with a prophecy or something.
I had no idea how Invoker knew how many different instances of existence there had been and assumed that he was originally from Foulfell... that every time he tried to remake everything in every iteration of his he still had no way of being able to save his daughter from her affliction, thus needed someone of the Light to remake the universe for him so Filomena could become cured.
I believe that the invoker used the souls to bring his daughter to this reality and cure her of the rot. That's why he was smiling in the end, because he got what he wanted and is hiding it from the party. especially from the sun empress, since he doesn't want any trouble from her.
All the seasons have been amazing tbh. Cool theory at the end, I don't quite buy it though. I am not sure what they will do in the future but I think this is the perfect end, adding more to this story might only drag it out. Only time will tell I suppose, I won't complain when there is more :).
It felt like episode 2 was the actual ending of the series while episode 3-8 was an ova episode over how invoker's character arc is finalized and/or concluded. While also being about how mirana mourns for her dead lover given the amount of screen time she gets compared to the other characters. Also, Filomena. This entire arc was about Filomena, Invoker and Mirana since everyone else's character has already been finalized in the original universe. I loved how they ground the magic as much as they possible can. Like he can recreate the whole universe but he's not completely all powerful that he can make you sh*t donkeys and say "This is reality now. We all sh*t donkeys in this reality, as I command it to be". 12,000 time... Damn!!! That's a lot!!! I don't like it when a fantasy story makes magic so easy that human are basically gods in comparison to reality. There's weight to what invoker did God I wish I can watch the whole series again. The extra episodes also proved to me that I wouldn't want a story that goes on forever and loved the ending as it is, even with Davion dead😢. They left the story open with Filomena alive for a potential book 5. But I like it as it is. If they do add a new seasons it better be an epilogue for the old characters(I just want to see them live life and be doing well) but also introduce new ones to take the role of protagonist and a completely new cast. I'm not familiar with the games so I don't know if there are potential other characters but I hope so. I don't want them to milk the crew for every last drop of story they can get from them when their character arcs are already finished.
Wait, so, can someone please tell me who created the old world back? Mirana or Terrorblade? Because if someone other than Invoker creates the world then there's still a chance for Filomena to survive right? So why did Invoker agreed to TB's offer in the last scene of the hand holding with Filo? Sorry im confused af, maybe cuz im a lil baked but im fr
I am loving this show. I assume it there are hundreds of characters in the game similar to warcraft lore? i wish the show could cover more characters, factions, etc warcraft anime with dozens of factions and hundreds of characters would also be nice.
theres over 120 characters and each of them have an extensive about section which is a treat to read alongside the show. Even if u dont play the game, you should read those biographies. They add alot
In the end terror blade shaped the universe the way he wanted... In last second he smiled when they said he worked with terror blade. They could not completely kill the demon
thank you bridge4 your are the ABSOLUTE BEST in the world at this. The detail of invoker being surprised when his daughter held his hand and the deal with terrorblade went 100% over my head. love the theory, seems like it’s not finished yet.
I'm late but this filled in a lot of blanks for me Just finished season 3. Thanks a lot, bridge4. I Hope Netflix has a reason 4 on their to-do list. Got my sub for what it's worth.
No way he took Terrorblade’s deal because there’s no way Terrorblade would reshape a world where he isn’t on top. Question however: if the flowers could cure Filomena, at least with the help of a goddesses, as implied by Selumene refusing to cure her in the first timeline and confirmed at the last scene, why did the Invoker not just ask Mene/Fimryn in the new world to cure her since he knew she had the disease all along?
@@EdGeLV That doesn't make any sense because the Invoker knew she was sick before she told him. Likewise, if she always knew she could be cured, then she would have cured herself, because there is no indication that this was a long con and she knew his intentions from the beginning.
Philomina and Invoker helped Mirana go back to the original reality ? But what if it wasn't the original ? What if Invoker meddled with it just enough to have his daughter in it , but everything else seemed just the way it was? That would explain the smile at the end. However there is a plot hole.. in 12k recreated universes invoker couldn't find a way to bring back Philomina without the disease.. but for some reason, in this one she is cured? Her being cured is the part that makes no sense to me, considering invokers knowledge. Either he was written poorly when it comes to this aspect for the sake of drama , or something yet unrevealed is the cause of this.
im 100% with you. i was tempted to believe that he used Mirana to get Filomena back to the old reality. but her disease went away, and thats confusing. that why i ultimately lean towards him making a deal with Terrorblade to play devils advocate, i still havent wrapped my arms around the difference between the moons in the original reality vs the alternate reality, and how the moons do/do not affect her disease so my opinion might change once i better understand the moon situation...
@@bridge4 I find it hard to believe that TB could have a way to cure her (if it was the deal variant) but invoker , who has all that knowledge couldn't, in 12k variants of the universe. In the end, I feel like we are left with a lot of missing info :(
filomena was not cured in universe#12403, it was delayed. if u recall in final episode, invoker finally mentioned that he wanted to spend more time with Filomena
Hey bridge here is my theory. Theory 1 Have you guys not seen or realized yet. Invoker used forge to create a reality in which mirana will go reset the existence. Watch anime again he was guiding mirana to use forge and also after it was done and mirana was holding davion body and its was only invoker using forge and turning it off. Crazy ride i must say. But now you must ask why he need to do all this stuff. Simple to bring back someone from another universe and yes you are right its philomena. So the usage of forge was a must. In short invoker planned all this even mirana gaining concious and all that moon breaking, every little thing was his plan even mirana resetting reality and bringing philomena back secretly. It was him all the time. Theory 2 may be who knows what they bargained because mirana was looking at invoker too. Like i have done my part. Now if we see why she never bring back marci or davion. Those two are linked with death of 2 powerful enemies. So if marci is back then void dragon is back too and if davion is back terrorblade is back too. THE END of a season but beginning of a new era.
I just finished the show yesterday and damn I want more of this story especially how did Mirana get pregnant if she was suppose to return everything back into the original timeline and what’s going to happen with Filomena in this original but modified timeline?
i think mirana created filomena while remaking this universe , she created her as someone who is not biologically invoker's daughter , there was a line where filomena said that the disease is a part of her until she is what she is , so I guess changing her roots may have caused the disease to not exist at all. Taking terror blade's deal doesn't make sense as the deal was that when terror blade himself recreate the world he would do that for the invoker but terror blade never won.
Overall, thoroughly enjoyed S3, way more than i ever expected after the confusing mess that was S2. One thing i wasn't a fan of(aside from killing my best girl Lina, _again)_ was them making Terrorblade kinda lame. Like, hey, i get it, that whole series is an Invoker story, but still - TB was built up *hard* in seasons 1&2, but then in 3 he's defeated in ep2 and is all but absent from the rest of the story. After the memory-sequence all i could think of was "wouldn't it be *fucking cool* if TB somehow managed to manifest himself into the new universe through Filomena accessing a memory of him?" Alas, that never happened. Shame, really.
The Invoker was the most powerful entity but the most lonely. The ending was that Filomena was healed by her mother. Even the Invoker being the most powerful can not heal her (Filomerna). It's Love that healed her (the love of her mother). Hopefully, the three were re-united. There's nothing more powerful in the whole of reality but love. Its opposite is despair. No matter what knowledge and power the Invoker accumulates, his.daughter's ilness can not.be healed nor her will/nature can be changed as the Invoker wishes. It is only and only thru love that made things right again. The Invokr deeply loved Filomena and remade reality but in the wrong way. His despair to cure her shook the universe madly. The Invoker became the enemy by.circumstance. He's almost omnipotent and almost omnicient but forgot that Love goes even beyond power and knowledge. There's nothing deep as deep love to a daughter child.
imagine if the 1st reality from season one was not the 1st but the 2nd or third. hear me out what if the invoker already made a universe based on terrorblades deal but filomena hated that universe, so he ended it. ANd when fymryn kept saying there is not anything he does not know, could he have known how living in a universe made from a god would be in this case mirana was the god and Filomena would like it. You could also say that he knew she would not like the universe he built since he was not a god so mistake were a given. The whole 3 seasons were a plot to create Filomena past her death date on the 'original universe' and then bring an older version. Better yet when the invoker said he always knew when she showed him the disease was that he knew the universe needed to claim her so he had to remake the universe to make her live but even that one needed her to die once, in the end only in a universe she died in could she survive. So if this theory works, why then did the universe decree she had to die? maybe because she was even more terrifying than the invoker, remember she is a daughter of a goddess as well and the godesses of the moon face madness before they are switched, so then could she face the madness too and it would destroy the universe so the universe in knowing that future decided to clip the danger in the bud.
Her watching the doll house and her rebuilding the tower at the end shows that she like her father probably knows the possibilities that could occur, and i dint think ths og timeline was the og timeline...it could be ont that was already manipulated by the invoker..
Still the question remains, how Filomena is still alive ? It can't be a deal with terrorblade as when they returned back, Terrorblade and Davion was already dead.
I just figured that he was smiling because his daughter figured out how to solve an issue he couldn’t figure out how to solve. I just thought that maybe his daughter figured out how to return to their world. 😂. Clearly I need to go back and rewatch. And that was one of the doll house analogy was so important. He had been trying to make a world for her Instead of letting her make the world.
the person saying it was presumably Filomena since we saw her in the prior reality fixing the Tower and her disease healing. plus, it was her voice unless im mistaken but who was she saying it to? i think thats open to interpretation for now. if i had to guess though, im tempted to think its from a different scene. she might go to Foulfell and ask her father ... to be honest though, that doesnt feel right. but for now, thats my instinct what do you think?
@@bridge4 Okey, I wanna give it an another looking side. In thıs season, Filomena that we have watched was look like Invoker. She was daughter of her father. But, ıt was on the universe which is first one. And ın the universe, which is created again should have some differences. And ı think Filomena is not her fathers daughter anymore. She is Selemene’s daughter from now.
Whatever the case, remember in season 1 the invoker said he expect people to be themselves and notion else, that's why he always wins and Fimryn told Filomena that she knew her father very well that very little happened without him knowing and wanting in advance. That all means that either this was his plan all along or he modified it midway after that talk with her, but every was always according to his foresight. And remember Filomena said to Davion and others that if the world got destroyed and remade the consequences for them, all of them, instead of saying for all of us, since the retart to the old World would mean she died too. But in saying that it implied she did not care if she died or more likely she would not died, there would be no consequences for her. So my drift is she knew she would not died even after the reset of the universe, like her father said she and him will always resist the destruction of the universe as long as they are in the valley with his tower. So the Invoker had a plan to have his daughter not be like him, crazy, lonely, obsessed and playing God, and she wanted to live and make things right again, so both plans converged. And Father and daughter were the ones casting the spell even though Mirana and Davion were at the center, so they still could modifier how it all went.
its loosely based off of a popular video game called DOTA2, but i didnt know that until last year Back in my college-ish days, they used to play Basshunter's "DOTA" at clubs. Since I knew the song, I had to watch the show, and I dig it. It's not lifechanging, but it's fun for sure here's the song (i now know that the music video is about them playing the game called DOTA2) th-cam.com/video/qTsaS1Tm-Ic/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BASSHUNTER
@@bridge4 I know of the game. It's an easy to run top down melee and projectile type of game. Looks a lot like the old Gauntlet game updated a bit. I think it could run on a toaster. My PC Might run it @1000FPS @4K. Gonna check out the song now. Thanks.
@@bridge4 Basshunters?!! LMAO 🤣. Reminds me of Crack fiends in the 90s on the mission. No power tools or lawn furniture was safe. Table Saw $20, drill $20, potted fern $20.
I think all was in Invoker's plan. he needed to remake the world so can his girl live, so he could teach her how to fix the dollhouse (the world), so she could insert herself in the old world. Remember that he made the Tower for her and that the Tower would survive anything, in other words the Tower is its own little universe.
do you think it was his plan all along tho? i started thinking that, but now im thinking that he changed his plans mid-process due to Filomena grabbing his hand
so you think that Filomena was definitely in on it?
who do you think Filomena was speaking to in the final sentence?
@@bridge4 I don’t believe she was in. When she was holding his hand, I think it means that she accepted her fate and OG universe have to be restore. IMO, Mirana restored balance but allow Filomena to lives since she knows what its feel like to lose someone. She gave a chance to Filomena to live in the OG universe.
@@bridge4 I think it was all along. I don't think mirana was able to make the forge not work when they went back in time, but I think the invoker finally found out filomena did not want to reshape the world. So the invoker just used the forge to bring her back and not remake the universe
hey Kev. at the tree, she told her father: "Nothing is beyond repair. Papa, I was thinking. Perhaps there is another way. A better way."
the last two lines were suspicious. but im with you in terms of how i interpretted her reaching out, holding his hand, and leaning her head in. it seemed like that was a way of showing her courage in accepting her fate. or should i say, her destiny. :-P (shoutout to the feisty Oracle lol)
ooh, i jsut finished reading your comment. so you think Mirana chose to bring Filomena back!?!? if so that's a dangerous move due to the butterfly effect
the reason that idea doesnt resonate with me is ... if she's not afraid of the changes that will result from bringing back Filomena, why wouldn't she do the same for Davion and Marci?
here's some tinfoil. i doint think there is anything here, but this is what i thought of the very first time that i watched the season. during s3, Filomena entered Mene's memories (Fymrym's memories). so Filomena walked around in Fymryn's shoes. did they form some sort of a connection due to that?
in one of the final shots (right before or after Mirana found the Archronicus book), Fymryn is at the broken tower and she looked down at the coin that the Invoker gave her in Season 1. the first time i saw the ending, i had assumed that Fymryn changed appearance to look like Filomena and then rebuilt the Tower the way that Filomena would have
i dont know why she would have worn Filomena's image. i'm just throwing it out there as being my first thought for whatever that's worth. but then the second time through, i noticed that Filomena had the rot on her neck, and it disappeared. so i stopped thinking it was Fymryn in Filomena disguise for lack of better words. so now i believe it was truly Filomena in the "original reality."
still dont understand how tho lol
when you say "all along," do you believe his plan started all the way back in the original reality, such as when he asked for Mirana's help going to Foulfell? in other words, did he plan on Davion dying, so that he could use all eight Dragon Souls on the Forge? (i can buy into that since he did sort of mock Davion when he gave him the five. saying something along the lines of "until you die")
but was his plan always to recrate Filomena in a different reality, and then come back to the old one? if so, why did he try 12,403 times to make that one work?
side note: here's something im still confused about... why did he go up to the moon and release the Arc Warden so as to cause the cataclysm? i guess that doesnt make sense to me unless his plan was already to get Mirana to reshape the old reality, and somehow get Filomena there as well
Now that you think about it, the invoker played everyone he met like cards in a game and our heroes thought he lost but he secretly won.
Hope this anime won't introduce more and more Injoker into DOTA 2.
Don’t know much about dota lore but that invoker is pretty op
@@alexm2369 for comparison.. almost all heroes or champion in MOBA industry have maybe like 3 to 5 max spells but our boy invoker in dota 2 maxing up to 10 spells / skills and what even more crazy is in early development our boy had like up to 27 and was nerfed down to 10 spells.. its said that in the lore he tend to throw and forget a spells if it was worthless according to his standard.. that show how op he is with his magic and mind thats why he is called arsenal magus also in dota lore up to 3 - 4 spells is considered genius.. if u want to check more lore about dota universe check a youtube in siractionslacks video lore about dota u will be blown away by its universe its really massive
@@alexm2369 try to read the dota 2's lore, you'll understand how powerful other heroes are.
The 3rd was a step down because they were just giving OP away like cars. You get OP he gets OP, every body gets OP.
The way writers develop Invoker’s character is insanely good.
Filomena asking “do you love me” at the end kindof worries me because that line always seemed to be the mark of the weird sort of self obsessed nature of the gods. Of course we had Selumene, but Fimryn/Mene also seemed a little more unapproachable in the new timeline. I just hope she hasn’t lost her good, kind nature now that she’s in the old timeline.
It wasn't Philomena
@@S-tm3mwSelemene in a previous previous existence?
@@S-tm3mw it WAS filomena bro, watch it again
@@YuckFou502 Fymryn being Mene and Philo being Selemene u mean?
It’s pretty clear it was the Invoker’s plan from the beginning. The story about the house was the key, Filomena would only accept the universe rebuild if it would be her decision but knowing the cost of it she refuses so the Invoker pull the strings to let her think her plan is the right one. The Invoker wanted a world in which Filomena could live and probably with “this will be the last experiment” could represent that he finally understood that to achive it he needed to sacrifice himself not living with her daughter.
He also needed the world to be created by the eye itself; Mirana, the center of everything. And I'm pretty sure the invoker will only come back stronger after he masters the ways of Foulfell
@@the_bansheemy only fav. Hero is terrorblade
I was actually shocked by how good this season was and how it made the two previous ones so much more coherent and interesting. Because back in the first season I expected some fun adventures set in the world of Dota (I've been playing Dota 2 for about 8 years, so I love the setting), and was happy with it, although I thought that many plot points were kind of thrown out there and nothing happened with them (like the dire crystal in the snow cave) and I concluded that is simply the issue of the writing. Then came the second season and I was disappointed because nothing really made sense, neither standalone nor together with season one. But season 3 subverted everything 180 degrees, the whole another reality thing answered most of the questions, filled gaps, gave a proper meaning to the events from previous seasons. My jaw literally dropped when I realized that Filomena entered Fymryn's memories, it really was happening back then, or should I say simultaneously, as Invoker and Selemene's responses matched both Fymryn and Filomena's words. It was so good. So yeah, this season made me TOTALLY change my opinion on the series, and now I know I need to rewatch the whole show from the beginning.
I was surprised too with filomenas reactions when she entered fymryns body, It was exactly what she said during the previous seasons making me think that whilst it happened it was simultaneous to what happened between 2 realities.
They prepared the field for the twist, almost sacrificing the Season two making complicated and confuse. But Man, rewatching i almost can imagine writers laughing at me.
I seriously hope we get another season, they gotta continue this after that ending, Filomena being there and healthy, Mirana being pregnant, we need to see what comes of this, I am very much intrigued especially after the Filomena reveal :) this show has been pretty damn good, what a pleasant surprise, watched it right from day one, finished every season in like a day or two, never got enough of it, props to the people working on it :) love how they gave us so many different characters and made them all play their part, such an intriguing story, very well written, fun to watch, proper old school fantasy, this is what we need!
I hope that too 😁
Well, season 4 is dependent on viewer ship by fans, netflix has the say when it comes to green lit for more seasons. So spread the word so Netflix says yes. The writer of the show has ideas for Volume 2/ season 4+ but nothing has been started until green lit.
i hope the next season isnt as annoying as this one. seriously, i cant stand back and forth muti-universeseses nonsense. i quickly lost interest in the story line.
@@BobRooney290 really? those stories are intriguing, doing reruns help to understand whats going on. I thought it was executed really well.
@@BobRooney290 I can understand that somebody may not really be into that sort of thing, I myself was very skeptical about that idea, but the way they executed it was very tasteful and sensical, the fact that they didnt really acknowledge that new world was really good, no bullshiting, they did the story properly, it is part of Dota as well this whole world reset so it makes sense to do it, but I think they just did it here once to complete the Invoker story and wont do that again, so I can definitely take it and again, they really did a good job with it, so I wasnt just gonna brush it off simply because of the concept itself :)
From what the dollhouse scene implies, Mirana (Artisan) simply shown the Invoker and Filomena the old world for Filomena to decide how to shape the old world the way she wants.
Probably the best comment I've read so far
This comment makes the most sense
yep, the first dollhouse refers to all the worlds that invoker wanted Filomena to live, Filomena not liking it refers to her disease to always resurface in those worlds. The second dollhouse is as you've explained.
That moment with Bram and Kaden about the Forge was the Dragon Hold Forge, not Invokers Forge. When Kaden said that to Bram was also before they ever saw Invokers.
Yeah. The characters who know how to use the forge are only Filomena, Invoker and perhaps Mirana.
My favourite part is
No matter how many times the Invoker recreated the Universe, he couldnt get rid of the Ancients. Radiant, Dire and The Arc Warden. Simply because they predate the universe itself.
In the end Filomena's idea was the most sensible, she wanted to use the forge to strengthen Arc Warden so that he will keep the two ancients locked up
There's an after-credit scene where everything is showing with black and white and you will see Mirana's smile before she leaves the Foufel. I think it was Mirana's plan to bring Filomena. Invoker probably smiled out of appreciation.
why would mirana prefer to bring back filomena and not marci or dragon knight?
@@tmpgoblinTo fufill the prophecy maybe?
I think that when Philomena said "do you love me" in the last scene it was a hint that she may be using the love of her father present in the Philomena flowers to cure herself like Selemene did.
This version of invoker is probably the greatest mastermind in all his infinite versions in the dota multiverse.. now looking back everything that he has done had a purpose.. although it seems that he improvised his final moments in the last season. finally can live with his daughter in peace. Invoker has been the mvp of the series hands down. No contest. The most fascinating character.
The thing that kinda frustrated me world-building-wise was that, with there being _a lot_ of godlike\beyond godlike entities, nobody ever tried to stop TB or Invoker from going on with their shenanigans.
But then, at the end of S3, the writers kinda excused themselves on this point, first with Mirana recalling Oracle's prophecy(revealing that Oracle knew precisely how things would turn out), and then with Shopkeeper seemingly also being aware of what went down. Thus turning it into "yeah the big boys just let Invoker have his fun since they knew things'd be back to normal eventually".
Well, you can’t really talk about oracle and the shopkeeper because ingame lore wise too you can see that they give very little fucks
Weaver just chillin, like: "12,000 times for a working new universe? I never make a faulty universe you fate-and reality bounded weakling. Bitch, you life INSIDE the universe? Pathetic.
they don't care
Tb and invoker and beyond godlike stuff
The ancients are MIA for now and the fundamentals plus the spirits had no reason to go there
I like slyrack's perspectives. Either go w the flow or fs up, either way quit worrying little mice. Perhaps the latter is a similar take the shopkeeper and oracle maintain, not so much that they dgaf. They just aren't worried about the endless silliness of their inherent reality like all the emo mice running around
Season 3 was freaking great
i know right!?!? i didnt even have Netflix anymore. I had been wondering whether I should get it or not. Last Thursday, I woke up, and I was like "yeah, ive gotta get it for DOTA season 3" lol. and it was sure worth it =)))
they should have make davion alive by slyrak coming into his body again after that Machine is destroyed
Nah man it still feels rushed, I don't like the pace it's really too fast, should've been 24 ep more
@@corniel657 think about the budget
@@jasonpatz4512 valve and Netflix are multi billion dollar companies, budget shouldn't be a concern to them
I would have loved to see Auroth back, she was such a cool character! But honestly this is my favourite anime right now, absolutely in love and the quotes from this book season got me crying like a baby
Honestly tho...she came in, comforted bram like an angel and proceeded to marrying him right then and there...a GIGACHADESS
She was my favourite Human Dragon too but the best part was when she shocked everyone by transforming from Dragon form into Human form but Bram's reaction was the best
She was probably my favorite character. I was a bit upset she didn't come back in the alternate universe.
Elder Titan realizing someone been using the World Forge: 🗿
That ending though, she is clearly healed the moment she touches the flowers in the garden. Did invoker finally manage to alter them to heal her and thus he kicked off the whole 12403 experiments to find a reality where he can set it up in such a way that he can bring her back? Those flowers have come up so many times. Sometimes they are dead other times not. That fucker is one sly dog. LOVED season 3. more please.
The deal between terror blade and the invoker was to give the rest of the dragons to terror blade and terror blade will create a reality where the invoker can hold his daughter's hands which means a reality where his daughter is alive .
But when they reshape the reality to supposedly be the same as it was, they were in a time where terror blade was already dead so how could he fulfill his side of the deal ?..🤨
Filomena is now a goddess.
The Invoker used the Forge to bring her back before it disappeared.
"Do you love me?" is used mainly byy Selemene the goddess. (And only sarcastically by the Invoker while he was addressing Selemene herself).
The Invoker finally decided to bring his daughter back without the disease, "letting go" of the daughter he knew for a "different me" (as Filomena describes any version of herself without the disease).
I say she's a goddess because they make every effort in that last scene to show us that this is a different Filomena with a higher power level -- also, she was glowing.
In season 2 invoker put selemene lotus power into filomena's flower and she was healed by that flower it seems soooo
@@igneelhwk8800 Hm. Interesting
I have a theory. When Filomena told her father about her sickness, she told him that to heal her he would have to turn her into someone she is not. We also know that the forge can be used for more subtle changes than simply remaking the whole universe. Therefor, I think that the Invoker used the forge and the dragon's souls to bring the Filomena from the new timline into the new one, but with a new body free from the illness. Her smile at the end seems to prove it since she would never have been happy with being brought back at the cost of others.
I see that as a possibility another is how she said the Sickness is a constant in her life. Something tied to who she was. A destiny that it will always claim her and all the Invoker could do is push it back. But since in the old world she had already died bringing her from another could have broken that binding of fate. Since she said no God, Medicine, or magic could heal her.
With the book sealed, Filomena already memorized the process (as was mentioned in one of the episode). Like the Master Craftman who made her the doll house, it was able to create a doll house of her liking and able to fix it if its broken. Mirana created/restored the world and Filomena was able to fix what is broken hence she is able to exist on the original universe.
I really liked how they did season 3. Filomena might be the next villain, but please let me be wrong. RIP Marci, i've abandoned all hope after s3 but grateful anyway for the hugs in s3. Can't wait for more Davion and Mirana and Fymryn. Can't wait for all of them.
Davion dead as hell my guy
@@frankiebigrings7048 oh yeah i forgot about that hahahaha maybe there is hope for everyone 🤞🤞🤞
I don’t think dación is coming back tho
@@sjie1874 maybe just maybe since filomena is alive we never know
@@sjie1874 Slyrak will be reborn again as the dragons always do (pillars of creation). Davion is already linked to Slyrak. That could be a backdoor for the writers to bring Davion back
First off i want to clarify that Kaden called Bram "Father" because he was the only dragon knight left that was very knowledgeable, like the old Father, instead of being combat focused. He was a scholar and a book nerd. When he said he could work the forge, he meant the weapon forge from Dragon Keep, not the reality forge of the Invoker. He reforged Davion's sword because he had learned the process of metalurgy from one of the many books he had read. Just wanted to clear up that confusion you had there.
Now let us discuss the ending.
At the end, when Filomena said "there is another way" she meant that there is a way to restore the old reality but also to restore herself (i think). When she took her father's hand she reminded him how much she loved him and so HE managed to let go of the Filomena he loved, just like in the prophecy. In every reality he had created, he would make Filomena from his own memories so in each reality she would have the disease because that was the only way he knew her.
By letting go of his own idea of what Filomena should be like, he also let go of the damaged Filomena and only kept the pure love of his daughter in his heart, knowing he would never see her again. By releasing her this way he was also able to save her.
When Mirana remade the reality from her memories she also brought the Invoker back with them but he brought a purified image of Filomena with him in his heart. She manifested in the old reality from his pure love of her.
In the end Filomena asks "do you love me?" refering to her father, but it is a retorical question because she knows he loves her, otherwise she would not be there.
This is how i see the ending anyway. What a beautiful and amazing journey this anime has been. I enjoyed all of it and it shows that american anime has come a long way almost reaching the peak of top notch japanese fantasy and sci-fi anime story telling.
Wow, great take.
This explanation has a real satisfaction about it! Feels like I understand now. Perfect
After watching Arcane, I thought there was no way this series would be able to top it (being a Dota fan it was kind of annoying that LOL topped DOTA in the cinematic genre). After watching the third season... wow. I've got to say, what a story writing master class from the writers. The execution might not have been on par with Arcane, but the story was very well crafted. Although I do think one or two more episodes for each season would have helped with the pacing. The third season was a massive home run. Enjoyed every bit. I even cried towards the end :')
I also watched Arcane and Dota in that order, and having extensive experience with both games since their respective betas, i felt like I had a pretty clear understanding of the mindset and motivations of the developers behind the games. As such, i was cautiously optimistic for Arcane and had very low expectations of Dota: DB. At this point it is safe to say that Arcane is deserving of the universal acclaim it received, but Dota:db honestly had no right to be as good as it was. The only explanation i can think of, is that Valve execs took a step back and, wisely so, gave Studio Mir a lot of creative freedom. I dont know whos responsibility it was to craft the core narrative, but I think it is safe to assume that they are creative geniuses mired in passion for their craft.
Although season 1 is somewhat generic, season 3 is incredibly bold and ambitious. It could easily have gone wrong and left the viewer perplexed and with a feeling that the narrative team had bitten off more than they could chew.
Except it didn't. The ambitious narrative plot was actually matched with a nearly flawless execution.
Arcane has no doubt set a new standard for future anime, especially for video game adaptations, but Dota:db is perhaps the biggest surprise in recent years. It had a lot against it: a cringy titel, generic industry-standard animations, and was based off an IP belonging to a financially aggressive game developer that caters to a fanbase not exactly known for their emotional depth or maturity.
Miraculously they somehow subverted all that through sheer talent, and i am honestly in awe of Studio Mir. Can't wait for season 4.
@@MWaever thank you for putting into words what I couldn’t, and after being quite surprised and disappointed at the general reception this show got. Though I do not have much experience with either LOL or DOTA, so that could be part of it.
But just as a stand alone experience, while the whole thing wasn’t perfect all round, and Arcane has a level of masterclass itself in its presentation, the script and writing for DOTA:DB is absolutely masterful and of the NETFLIX game adaption anime’s it’s the one that has stayed with me the most since I watched it last year. In terms of themes and plot, they somehow managed to bite off so much, and yet do it all nearly flawlessly as you say. I’m legitimately in awe at that.
I watched season three hours after it dropped and bc of it saw not many reactions to it. So glad I came across this bc it seems that people love it and I share the same sentiment
Lina got done so dirty in the alternate universe. Hardly anyone mentioned or gave a fuck she literally sacrificed herself. Such a wasted character in both seasons shes elite in every aspect
exactly the way they did her character is a perfect example of what is wrong with this season. everything they do is pointless. the important ppl are throwaways. All for an outcome that sucks. time travel that leads to a worse outcome??
yes omg lina is my favorite character in the series and she dies twice 😂
Bram got did dirty the most. Think what did he do?
@@dontwatchmyvideoace1383 he had no powers to begin with , what u expect him to contribute other than knowledge related to dragon knights
@@ankithpillai7293 He know how to teleport.
He was given a powerful sword but didn't use it. He should have been training with it everyday.
Mindblowing! I loved all the seasons and it's getting so complex, just like the game/players/fans deserves.
60kg de alcatra limpinha
I don't see why this series is not talked about more. It's a great story
I think the key to the story here is that line to Filomina that went something like "How much a burden can you carry and still live?" and I guess her answer is simply "The world as it was, but I could be there too" as seen in the story
I also agree with the theory that it was his plan all along, last season he says something along these lines to terrorblade, "You control them, I believe in who they are" - again i cant remember the line, he knew how is daughter was, the decisions she will make, he just needed her to be ready
Hey, just discovered your channel because of this video. I really needed season 3 explained coz it was so dense and I found it hard to follow, especially after they defeated Terrorblade. Thanks so much!
Gonna go back and watch the explanations of seasons 1 and 2 now.
Cheers! ✌
The ending is such a mystery!!! So many theories! Honestly, my theory is that Mirana brought them back to the first reality and Filomena was actually evil like her mother and the invoker had to accept it now but that was the reason why he kept changing realities in the first place because he failed her as a father. But of course if there is going to be another season than we would find out. I really hope so! Davion probably won’t return but he would have a son who acts just like him instead and would become the main protagonist.
I really liked the character of filomena, there's something really cool about a more joyfull and impulsive invoker
they're great foils as the nearest equals to each other
I wonder what the 4 fundamentals (Chaos Knight, Enigma, IO, Keeper of the Light ) are doing or thinking while Invoker is just remaking the universe 12,403 times.
In my opinion, 'the world' that this show refer not the whole universe as we think. It seem just scale up to a solar system, a system forged by the hand of elder titan like many other systems by others titan.
What make this special the the presence of mad moon aka the 3 big pieces of primodial mind. And I doubt that is the reason why elder titan make a huge mistake when forged it.
The 8 eldwyrms is the part of fundamentals used to forge this sole world, while enigma, Io, Ck, Kotl... is the avatar of whole fundamental in all universe, all worlds that forged. So why they would give a f when a little world reset many time?
I guess Chaos Knight is busy chasing the other 3 back to the fundamental plane
There's a season 3?! Was I under a rick all these years?! Here I am waiting for season 2 only to find out it's on season 3. Thank you for sharing. Gratitude.
Oh boi! You’re about to get hit with emotional damage with season 2 and 3
You may have been under a rock, not a rick.
Only if you're a morty
get ready for pain, endless pain
Yes, you were under rick
This series is amazing. The twist and turns of it is mind blowing. No matter what someone is just gonna screw someone over it seems.
What if Invorker actually used the forge before if fell down. But instead of remaking the reality he made a subtle change using Filomina's theory. Instead of killing the eldwyrm he only tapped into their power. We do see the Forge working for a few second when Mirana brought back the first reality so there's a high possibility than Invorker working with Terroblade
Kaden was referring to the forge at dragonhold that makes dragon infused weapons and armor. I don't even understand how you could confuse this unless you didn't actually watch it.
You forgot the part when Invokers daughter gets to talk with Terrorblade while recovering prehistory.
my biggest problem with this show is how Mirana could get pregnant?
there is literally no time for them to mate at all unless when she remake the world she had rapid split second sex lmfao
It's possible she recreated the world with Mene , or Davion lives on inside Mirana somehow
Invoker speaks about how 'causality was the second lesson' when he is referring to using the forge. It's possible that rather than taking Terroblades deal, he rather worked out how to bend causality such that his daughter could be in the original world, perhaps the tower was in a pocket dimension (it was, after all, in ruin at the end of season 3). Whatever way he achieved it, this is what I believe happened. However, I don't think everything was planned by him after he first used the forge. I think he originally didn't know of a way to recreate the original world, and stubbornly kept remaking new realities, but eventually realised Mirana could remake it.
I dont know if some of u notice but in season 2 invoker put selemene power into the flower which was absorbed by filomena to seemingly heal.. So when people say filomena transcended and become like mene I think i agree with that conclusion...
10/10 Season 3 was pretty great. The best yet...
But they didn't reunite Auroth and Bram in the alternate reality. 1/10
Thought the same. There probably wasn't enough time in 8 episodes but I would have loved to see them happy... Well for a few episodes at least.
I think in the end, it was Filomena and also it was Fymryn/Mene, maybe somehow their minds connected eachother in the new world itteration(it become previous now). We saw Fymryn at the tower and after cutscene we saw Filomena fixing the tower, I think it was Mene but she also has mind of Filomena and Filomena we saw was just her image by Mene and when we saw her wounds become healing, it was actually not healing, Fymrin/Mene chaging her look to herself back and the last word: "do you love me?" this word almost always told by Mene :)
Also when you look at the tower fixing "magic" it doesn't look like magic of Invoker or Filomena, the shape of it look like Moon magic by Mene.
I think the "do you love me?" line was a reference to what a goddess would ask. I think her returning and the the construct of the new tower suggests Filomena tapping into the moon's power. Maybe that was the root of her cure? Was it not Selemene that had the ability to cure her in the first season?
Selemene stated that she could not heal Filomena however admittedly she did not try.
Am I the only one who finds it ridiculous that davion dies?
I mean there are 2 gods present one that has the power to change entire universes. The other one is not weak either.
Besides, it was said about Filomena that not even making her immortal stops the rot. And then she is still in the universe where she died long ago suddenly with cured rot. Then it wouldn't have been so hard for Mirana to rewrite the death of Davion or the one who brought Filomena to the Old Reality. And no I have no problem with nice characters dying I also love Demon slayer but there the deaths make sense. I just can't get my head around the fact that you can create whole universes according to your will but you can't heal one little person Please I need more opinions on this?
davion said be he dead and mirana said no more rewrite .maybe davions dead means elder dragons real end and not living him means now only this world will exist ?
I agree
If I understand what you're saying, it's like you're assuming that the goddesses, or at least Mirana, had something to do with Filomena returning.
She didn't bring Filomena to life. It's most likely the Invoker who did.
By all indications from that last scene, my conclusion is that this is a "different" Filomena (she said the disease was part of her, and that if she was brought back without it, it would be a "different" her).
So, the Invoker finally decided to accept that perhaps.
I don't know if Mirana (or Fymryn) can bring back the dead. Even if they could, they are young gods; and the Invoker told Mirana "you don't understand one-thousandth of your power" or something like that
A real bummer that davion died. I know someone had to die but really why davion.
honestly I'm just waiting for the war of the ancients to happen but it seems like it has been delayed again
Season 3h really unlocked part of my brain that I didn’t know I had lmao
Was kinda annoying how weak Davion was when he wasn't buffed up on all that dragon juice. I realise it's a different reality where he's not been through all the shit he had in the original reality but he could barely hold his own against that "Hell Bear" in the earlier episodes - he slays dragons for a living for christs sake. It's a shame he's a goner because he was by far my favourite character. Still, what a cliff hanger ending. Getting the feeling that filomena is going to be trouble in the next series.
So basically, by having someone else make the "doll house" then figuring it out/fixing it, Filomena was able to live by altering the world Mirana created? Also the Oracle said, "You will travel into darkness, and save what you love by allowing what you've loved to die." Does the 'what' include Marci and Davion? They did die in the end, so if they 'what' includes them? Where exactly would the save part be? If there's a Season 4 maybe they'll include those two in the 'save' part?
My favourite thing was how terrorblade was able to communicate with filomena, showing that his plan was still in motion
No bram knows how to forge dragon scale weapons and armor like kaden has, there isn’t any way that beam could know how to use the forge or even know it exists
Invoker said that the place was built for Filomena to survive so when Mirana rebuilt the previous world by destroying the new, it didn't took Filomena with it. The only one who remembered was Mirana since she was a constant but she didn't know that Filomena would "cross over" so to speak. What confuses me is how she cured her disease when the Invoker himself couldn't do it even with thousands of iterations under his belt. Terrorblade is no more as he was destroyed outside time so I couldn't see that his bargain with the Invoker still exists.
She's not curing her disease. She's using the flowers to prolong her lifespan.
I can't be the only one who was constantly checking their notifications for this vid
i began watching DOTA at 5am Thursday lol. i kept spinning my wheels on what happened, so i watched the season over and over (and im still not sure lol). i basically put in four straight 14+ hour days on this 4 hour show plus another 5 this morning
granted, 10 hours yesterday and the 5 today were all just trying to deal with audio issues. but still, if we exclude the tech issues, i still spent like 46 hours on this friggen video and this is the best i could come up with LOL
Same!! Thank you for the hardwork bridge4!!!
thanks, Lauryll Lue =))
I just really hope we get to see the other heroes that were shown in one of those episodes like windranger,Phantom Lancer and Axe and how they affected the storyline.
Also,really hope to see how Jakiro is borned since Jakiro is the son of Auroth,the Wynter Wyvern so Bram must have something up his sleeve before Auroth died.
And what happen to Rylai after she found out that her sister,Lina died.
i hope we will have the 4 season cause the 3 was very good
I dont know why i couldnt see that Kayden was Davion's father, that Mirana is pregnant, and that Filomena is back in the new-old world, the only thing I noticed was the grin on the Invoker's face followed by Filomena holding the flower but I didnt make the connection, thank you incredible explanation
I'm hoping to see the sory of the other characters as well. Like Juggernaut, Sven, Axe. The primordials beings, elder titan the creator, IO the blob that existed before existence, Enigma, AA, Void(both of them). Or the other devils like, Doom or Shadow Fiend(especially his master burns my curiosity), Spirit Breaker, Blood seeker, Naix(same with theirs masters) There is so much to cover. I hope they keep doing it and cover the rest of the heroes as well. Thos season really saved the whole series, as it made the most sense (to the game) till now, and it was so much well put togeter compared to the other 2.
pretty sure kaiden was referring to a different forge, one is the dragonhold forge of armor (which we also saw season 2 i think)
and invokers forge is the forge of creation(you can look up Elder Titans lorepage for that)
I think you guys forget that all that happen is following the "SHOPKEEPERS rule"
can you expand on that please? i do recall Terrorblade (through Drysi) and the Invoker mentioning the Shopkeepers covenant when discussing a new deal, but the i couldnt truly understand what they were implying in that back and forth. are you able to put it into layman's terms?
@@bridge4 Shopkeeper's covenant have a very complex rule over everything because they hold the dearest relics to pass it to the people in need. From what I remember Oracle got his orb from them.
If you somehow break a contract with them, any curse from any source can find you. One interesting example is that someone stole the aegis(the reincarnation stone) from them and that made that guy to turn into a monster to be slain again and again, only to pass fragments of aegis to those in need. The creature is called Roshan.
@@bridge4 even gods and goddesses won't abide the shopkeeper's rules.
@@bridge4 In the DOTA game there is a creature called Roshan. He is super powerful and usually you can only kill him with your whole team and after you level up enough and got strong items. Every time Roshan dies he comes back to life in exactly the same place after like 5-8 minutes. He is basically cursed with immortality because he stole from a shopkeeper. Shopkeepers seem to be the most protected people in the whole lore. Not sure where this protection comes from though, probably not from gods because even they can get cursed once a shopkeepers rule is broken. Also they can do whatever they want, charge enormous sums for items and relics or not charge anything at all, as you saw in the first season when he gave the gem to Mirana for free, which allowed her to see Invoker's tower.
What was interesting is that Selemene told Fymryn that Mene was once mad like her which was likely why the Invoker and Selemene killed the Moon Goddess. I don't know what made Mene mad or insane but it likely has to do with a prophecy or something.
I don't think Bram knows how to work The Forge, I think he knows how to work just the regular forge at Dragon Hold.
I had no idea how Invoker knew how many different instances of existence there had been and assumed that he was originally from Foulfell... that every time he tried to remake everything in every iteration of his he still had no way of being able to save his daughter from her affliction, thus needed someone of the Light to remake the universe for him so Filomena could become cured.
Such an incredible fantasy story. One of the best out there, seriously.
I believe that the invoker used the souls to bring his daughter to this reality and cure her of the rot. That's why he was smiling in the end, because he got what he wanted and is hiding it from the party. especially from the sun empress, since he doesn't want any trouble from her.
All the seasons have been amazing tbh. Cool theory at the end, I don't quite buy it though.
I am not sure what they will do in the future but I think this is the perfect end, adding more to this story might only drag it out.
Only time will tell I suppose, I won't complain when there is more :).
It felt like episode 2 was the actual ending of the series while episode 3-8 was an ova episode over how invoker's character arc is finalized and/or concluded. While also being about how mirana mourns for her dead lover given the amount of screen time she gets compared to the other characters. Also, Filomena. This entire arc was about Filomena, Invoker and Mirana since everyone else's character has already been finalized in the original universe.
I loved how they ground the magic as much as they possible can. Like he can recreate the whole universe but he's not completely all powerful that he can make you sh*t donkeys and say "This is reality now. We all sh*t donkeys in this reality, as I command it to be". 12,000 time... Damn!!! That's a lot!!! I don't like it when a fantasy story makes magic so easy that human are basically gods in comparison to reality. There's weight to what invoker did
God I wish I can watch the whole series again.
The extra episodes also proved to me that I wouldn't want a story that goes on forever and loved the ending as it is, even with Davion dead😢. They left the story open with Filomena alive for a potential book 5. But I like it as it is. If they do add a new seasons it better be an epilogue for the old characters(I just want to see them live life and be doing well) but also introduce new ones to take the role of protagonist and a completely new cast. I'm not familiar with the games so I don't know if there are potential other characters but I hope so. I don't want them to milk the crew for every last drop of story they can get from them when their character arcs are already finished.
@Timur Serdengeçti They would just need to release another Dota series.
Thanks for this beautiful presentation and perspectives! This and the comments is just what i needed
Wait, so, can someone please tell me who created the old world back? Mirana or Terrorblade?
Because if someone other than Invoker creates the world then there's still a chance for Filomena to survive right?
So why did Invoker agreed to TB's offer in the last scene of the hand holding with Filo?
Sorry im confused af, maybe cuz im a lil baked but im fr
Something that many seem to forget are that Filomena disease in the end seem to start disappearing
I am loving this show. I assume it there are hundreds of characters in the game similar to warcraft lore? i wish the show could cover more characters, factions, etc warcraft anime with dozens of factions and hundreds of characters would also be nice.
theres over 120 characters and each of them have an extensive about section which is a treat to read alongside the show. Even if u dont play the game, you should read those biographies. They add alot
But the majority of the characters are not even humanoid, I don't know if they can make more series with such limited humanoid characters
from a dude holding an axe to galactical entity who rule the fundamental of laws of the dota universe yeah it still explorable and its massive
I've just noticed that the "remember" scene from season 1&3 might have indicated that the first season wasn't the first iteration of the universe.
In the end terror blade shaped the universe the way he wanted... In last second he smiled when they said he worked with terror blade. They could not completely kill the demon
Its all fun until abadon came with his sword hahahah even terorblade come in fear (only old dota1 people know this means hahahah)
@@kevinbosco5876 korni mo storya ng warcraft sa dota
thank you bridge4 your are the ABSOLUTE BEST in the world at this. The detail of invoker being surprised when his daughter held his hand and the deal with terrorblade went 100% over my head. love the theory, seems like it’s not finished yet.
I'm late but this filled in a lot of blanks for me Just finished season 3. Thanks a lot, bridge4. I Hope Netflix has a reason 4 on their to-do list. Got my sub for what it's worth.
Weaver Watching shit go down in this variation of reality: 🗿
davion's gonna be revived in season 4 though, through aegis
Terror Blade did say that it was already written and that it is inevitable
No way he took Terrorblade’s deal because there’s no way Terrorblade would reshape a world where he isn’t on top.
Question however: if the flowers could cure Filomena, at least with the help of a goddesses, as implied by Selumene refusing to cure her in the first timeline and confirmed at the last scene, why did the Invoker not just ask Mene/Fimryn in the new world to cure her since he knew she had the disease all along?
She told invoker that she is uncurable, because then invoker would let her do whatever she wants
@@EdGeLV That doesn't make any sense because the Invoker knew she was sick before she told him. Likewise, if she always knew she could be cured, then she would have cured herself, because there is no indication that this was a long con and she knew his intentions from the beginning.
Season 3 was insane
Philomina and Invoker helped Mirana go back to the original reality ? But what if it wasn't the original ? What if Invoker meddled with it just enough to have his daughter in it , but everything else seemed just the way it was? That would explain the smile at the end.
However there is a plot hole.. in 12k recreated universes invoker couldn't find a way to bring back Philomina without the disease.. but for some reason, in this one she is cured? Her being cured is the part that makes no sense to me, considering invokers knowledge. Either he was written poorly when it comes to this aspect for the sake of drama , or something yet unrevealed is the cause of this.
Or the terror blade bargain
im 100% with you. i was tempted to believe that he used Mirana to get Filomena back to the old reality. but her disease went away, and thats confusing. that why i ultimately lean towards him making a deal with Terrorblade
to play devils advocate, i still havent wrapped my arms around the difference between the moons in the original reality vs the alternate reality, and how the moons do/do not affect her disease
so my opinion might change once i better understand the moon situation...
@@bridge4 I find it hard to believe that TB could have a way to cure her (if it was the deal variant) but invoker , who has all that knowledge couldn't, in 12k variants of the universe.
In the end, I feel like we are left with a lot of missing info :(
filomena was not cured in universe#12403, it was delayed. if u recall in final episode, invoker finally mentioned that he wanted to spend more time with Filomena
@@drshifatabdullah they're talking about the earlier universe. the ending of the last episode where filomena is healing by taking using those flowers
So Invoker is like Aizen, who has everything planned :o
Hey bridge here is my theory.
Theory 1
Have you guys not seen or realized yet. Invoker used forge to create a reality in which mirana will go reset the existence. Watch anime again he was guiding mirana to use forge and also after it was done and mirana was holding davion body and its was only invoker using forge and turning it off. Crazy ride i must say. But now you must ask why he need to do all this stuff. Simple to bring back someone from another universe and yes you are right its philomena. So the usage of forge was a must. In short invoker planned all this even mirana gaining concious and all that moon breaking, every little thing was his plan even mirana resetting reality and bringing philomena back secretly. It was him all the time.
Theory 2 may be who knows what they bargained because mirana was looking at invoker too. Like i have done my part. Now if we see why she never bring back marci or davion. Those two are linked with death of 2 powerful enemies. So if marci is back then void dragon is back too and if davion is back terrorblade is back too.
THE END of a season but beginning of a new era.
I just finished the show yesterday and damn I want more of this story especially how did Mirana get pregnant if she was suppose to return everything back into the original timeline and what’s going to happen with Filomena in this original but modified timeline?
wow, seriously dope channel yo
i think mirana created filomena while remaking this universe , she created her as someone who is not biologically invoker's daughter , there was a line where filomena said that the disease is a part of her until she is what she is , so I guess changing her roots may have caused the disease to not exist at all.
Taking terror blade's deal doesn't make sense as the deal was that when terror blade himself recreate the world he would do that for the invoker but terror blade never won.
I still think things moved waaaaay too fast, this how would've benefited from 2 more episodes or maybe some 10 extra minutes each episode
Good job dude. love the video. whats your prediction for season 4? if it happens
Overall, thoroughly enjoyed S3, way more than i ever expected after the confusing mess that was S2.
One thing i wasn't a fan of(aside from killing my best girl Lina, _again)_ was them making Terrorblade kinda lame. Like, hey, i get it, that whole series is an Invoker story, but still - TB was built up *hard* in seasons 1&2, but then in 3 he's defeated in ep2 and is all but absent from the rest of the story. After the memory-sequence all i could think of was "wouldn't it be *fucking cool* if TB somehow managed to manifest himself into the new universe through Filomena accessing a memory of him?"
Alas, that never happened. Shame, really.
Just wait it explain in the season 1 tb travels in 7 plains or universe
The Invoker was the most powerful entity but the most lonely.
The ending was that Filomena was healed by her mother.
Even the Invoker being the most powerful can not heal her (Filomerna).
It's Love that healed her (the love of her mother).
Hopefully, the three were re-united. There's nothing more powerful in the whole of reality but love.
Its opposite is despair. No matter what knowledge and power the Invoker accumulates, his.daughter's ilness can not.be healed nor her will/nature can be changed as the Invoker wishes. It is only and only thru love that made things right again.
The Invokr deeply loved Filomena and remade reality but in the wrong way. His despair to cure her shook the universe madly. The Invoker became the enemy by.circumstance.
He's almost omnipotent and almost omnicient but forgot that Love goes even beyond power and knowledge.
There's nothing deep as deep love to a daughter child.
Dude invoker was smiling at the end this was all his plan im sure of it
imagine if the 1st reality from season one was not the 1st but the 2nd or third. hear me out what if the invoker already made a universe based on terrorblades deal but filomena hated that universe, so he ended it. ANd when fymryn kept saying there is not anything he does not know, could he have known how living in a universe made from a god would be in this case mirana was the god and Filomena would like it. You could also say that he knew she would not like the universe he built since he was not a god so mistake were a given. The whole 3 seasons were a plot to create Filomena past her death date on the 'original universe' and then bring an older version. Better yet when the invoker said he always knew when she showed him the disease was that he knew the universe needed to claim her so he had to remake the universe to make her live but even that one needed her to die once, in the end only in a universe she died in could she survive. So if this theory works, why then did the universe decree she had to die? maybe because she was even more terrifying than the invoker, remember she is a daughter of a goddess as well and the godesses of the moon face madness before they are switched, so then could she face the madness too and it would destroy the universe so the universe in knowing that future decided to clip the danger in the bud.
Her watching the doll house and her rebuilding the tower at the end shows that she like her father probably knows the possibilities that could occur, and i dint think ths og timeline was the og timeline...it could be ont that was already manipulated by the invoker..
the Invoker is actually so freaking BADASS!!
Still the question remains, how Filomena is still alive ? It can't be a deal with terrorblade as when they returned back, Terrorblade and Davion was already dead.
I just figured that he was smiling because his daughter figured out how to solve an issue he couldn’t figure out how to solve.
I just thought that maybe his daughter figured out how to return to their world. 😂. Clearly I need to go back and rewatch. And that was one of the doll house analogy was so important.
He had been trying to make a world for her Instead of letting her make the world.
Please tell me what happened in the ending scene? “Do you love me?” What does it mean ıs Selemene back as Filomenia
the person saying it was presumably Filomena since we saw her in the prior reality fixing the Tower and her disease healing. plus, it was her voice unless im mistaken
but who was she saying it to? i think thats open to interpretation for now. if i had to guess though, im tempted to think its from a different scene. she might go to Foulfell and ask her father ... to be honest though, that doesnt feel right. but for now, thats my instinct
what do you think?
@@bridge4 Okey, I wanna give it an another looking side. In thıs season, Filomena that we have watched was look like Invoker. She was daughter of her father. But, ıt was on the universe which is first one.
And ın the universe, which is created again should have some differences. And ı think Filomena is not her fathers daughter anymore. She is Selemene’s daughter from now.
Whatever the case, remember in season 1 the invoker said he expect people to be themselves and notion else, that's why he always wins and Fimryn told Filomena that she knew her father very well that very little happened without him knowing and wanting in advance. That all means that either this was his plan all along or he modified it midway after that talk with her, but every was always according to his foresight.
And remember Filomena said to Davion and others that if the world got destroyed and remade the consequences for them, all of them, instead of saying for all of us, since the retart to the old World would mean she died too. But in saying that it implied she did not care if she died or more likely she would not died, there would be no consequences for her.
So my drift is she knew she would not died even after the reset of the universe, like her father said she and him will always resist the destruction of the universe as long as they are in the valley with his tower.
So the Invoker had a plan to have his daughter not be like him, crazy, lonely, obsessed and playing God, and she wanted to live and make things right again, so both plans converged. And Father and daughter were the ones casting the spell even though Mirana and Davion were at the center, so they still could modifier how it all went.
I've Never seen the show but if you like it Kev I'm watching it.
Letting the vid play muted and hittin the thumbs up!!
its loosely based off of a popular video game called DOTA2, but i didnt know that until last year
Back in my college-ish days, they used to play Basshunter's "DOTA" at clubs. Since I knew the song, I had to watch the show, and I dig it. It's not lifechanging, but it's fun for sure
here's the song (i now know that the music video is about them playing the game called DOTA2)
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@@bridge4 I know of the game. It's an easy to run top down melee and projectile type of game. Looks a lot like the old Gauntlet game updated a bit. I think it could run on a toaster. My PC Might run it @1000FPS @4K. Gonna check out the song now. Thanks.
@@bridge4 Basshunters?!! LMAO 🤣. Reminds me of Crack fiends in the 90s on the mission. No power tools or lawn furniture was safe. Table Saw $20, drill $20, potted fern $20.