Scott Stokely's forehand advice is when it started to click for me. The advice that you're not serving the pizza, you're throwing a ball, and that it's a forward facing throw. But you don't face forwards from the start. If you watch a pitcher or any throw in baseball, they start off with their shoulders/hips/feet about 90 degrees to the target (coiled I guess you could say), then they separate their hands and take a huge step forward driving onto mostly their heel with their front foot facing mostly forwards, and when they land with that front foot is when they explode their hips and everything else follows with their arm being last like a whip. The big difference is, with a disc, the release angle and nose angle are extremely important. That's where I need to practice most first, at lower power with putters, mids and fairway drivers, before I can throw forehands for max distance.
I tried this yesterday and didn't feel any discomfort in my arm or back. I used to throw a forehand like skipping a stone with no rotation or follow thru. My arm and back would get sore after several throws. Can't wait to practice this technique more :)
Coiling is essential & I essentially twist/wind up pre forehand throw. It’s a great preshot routine & gets that coil/wind up muscle memory flowing pre-forehand release.
Im curious, i recently was watching what pros do with their off arm on forehands. They mostly seem to swing it wide then bring the left elbow into the left hip. I think it makes sense thinking about what you brought up in this video. I initially thought it was something like closing the shoulders in backhand but now im betting its to help burst the "coiling" and keep the right arm closer to flat on the swing.
This has helped me so much with getting distance along with a longer swing. I used to use mostly my wrist and my arm really didn't like it even though I still got decent distance.
The longer reach back and swing was a big one for me, I see alot of people throwing from the hip and using too much elbow. Not only is it a good way to hurt yourself but also has alot less range of motion.
I'm a total disc golf newbie (less than a month), but a former avid racquetball player, and forehands have been almost miraculously easy for me to throw with decent distance and control from day one. My theory is that the low racquetball forehand is almost the same form for a good disc forehand as well, including the coiling you highlight here. I'd love to find out if any other racquetballers have found forehands to be unexpectedly easy as well?
Solid advice - I've been throwing sidearm for 20 years like this and have no injury issues. All about getting the whole body into the motion to help the whip🤘🧝♂🥏
Quick update on this - it's a subtle change from what I've been doing. Played 36 baskets today - used a little more uni-body twist than usual and paid attention to it in my head. Damn - accuracy better than usual, throws felt solid out of my hand. I did not measure any today, but they looked good. Elbow not jacked on any of them. Forehand future looks brighter !
I throw 330-360 ish with wobble and no coiling. Super stoked to go try this. Never thought about it and checked. And I’ll be damned, no coiling 😅 I also only use my index finger throwing forehand’s and can’t find anyone else doing that so I was afraid that was the reason I didn’t throw further as I definitely yeet it hard enough compared to others :-P the wobble is probably also due to form and maybe stability from not using two finger stacked grip. It just feels way more natural for me only using the index finger 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ziggy-md5ok THANK YOU! I’m sure you’re right I just can’t find any videos where they do. And I really feel the one finger grip is way more natural for me. Probably because I was somewhat of a rock skipping maniac back in the days 😂😜 edit: I do not get wobble all the time, I just get it more often than not. I’ve tried pinching harder but I didn’t really see much difference. Might be release angle too for me. May be a slight of axis throw or some shit. But I’ll try pinching harder again to see :-D
Forehand coiling wasn’t found in a search because you made that up. :) This is a good example where getting some insight from a qualified sports trainer would help. The forehand is more than a rotational centered movement, there is a kinetic chain that involves a linear component, and predominantly lower body. Be careful powering up a rotational side arm throw that only uses the upper body. Spine safety my friend, be safe.
If you are searching words, here is an interesting one…sagittal. Its the movement of the upper trunk leaning forward which helps move energy forward in part of the energy chain. The list of sports movement words/terms/phrases is pretty well defined outside disc golf.
Im using the terms popular in disc golf so the disc golfers watching will understand easily. I have my bachelors degree in exercise science and fully understand "proper technical terms". I want the explainations to be as digestible as possible. Thanks for your comment!
Scott Stokely's forehand advice is when it started to click for me. The advice that you're not serving the pizza, you're throwing a ball, and that it's a forward facing throw. But you don't face forwards from the start. If you watch a pitcher or any throw in baseball, they start off with their shoulders/hips/feet about 90 degrees to the target (coiled I guess you could say), then they separate their hands and take a huge step forward driving onto mostly their heel with their front foot facing mostly forwards, and when they land with that front foot is when they explode their hips and everything else follows with their arm being last like a whip. The big difference is, with a disc, the release angle and nose angle are extremely important. That's where I need to practice most first, at lower power with putters, mids and fairway drivers, before I can throw forehands for max distance.
Accidentally discovered this in the field one day and it was the magical “added 50 feet” moment. Thanks for the clear discussion!
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I tried this yesterday and didn't feel any discomfort in my arm or back. I used to throw a forehand like skipping a stone with no rotation or follow thru. My arm and back would get sore after several throws. Can't wait to practice this technique more :)
Coiling is essential & I essentially twist/wind up pre forehand throw. It’s a great preshot routine & gets that coil/wind up muscle memory flowing pre-forehand release.
Agreed!🧊
Thanks for this, haven't watched it yet, but i've always thought your forehand was so smooth!
Im curious, i recently was watching what pros do with their off arm on forehands. They mostly seem to swing it wide then bring the left elbow into the left hip. I think it makes sense thinking about what you brought up in this video. I initially thought it was something like closing the shoulders in backhand but now im betting its to help burst the "coiling" and keep the right arm closer to flat on the swing.
I think you may have just saved my forehand. Great form advice that I've never heard before. Thanks Man!
Enjoy!!🧊
Great vid! Thanks! I remember watching that first vid. I'll have to revisit it.
Enjoy!!🧊🧊
This has helped me so much with getting distance along with a longer swing. I used to use mostly my wrist and my arm really didn't like it even though I still got decent distance.
The longer reach back and swing was a big one for me, I see alot of people throwing from the hip and using too much elbow. Not only is it a good way to hurt yourself but also has alot less range of motion.
Hopefully this advice helps you🧊
I'm a total disc golf newbie (less than a month), but a former avid racquetball player, and forehands have been almost miraculously easy for me to throw with decent distance and control from day one. My theory is that the low racquetball forehand is almost the same form for a good disc forehand as well, including the coiling you highlight here.
I'd love to find out if any other racquetballers have found forehands to be unexpectedly easy as well?
That makes total sense. Thanks again!
🧊enjoy!
Great tip! I think it would be helpful to address the footwork as well. Good stuff, Dylan!
Check out my other video i referenced. I went over good footwork for distance
Ah yes! Will do!
Ah yes! Will do!
Ah yes! Will do!
Ah yes! Will do!
Awesome vid. Not gonna try in my tournament tomorrow but the quest begins!
Solid advice - I've been throwing sidearm for 20 years like this and have no injury issues.
All about getting the whole body into the motion to help the whip🤘🧝♂🥏
Agreed!!🧊
Thanks!
Enjoy🧊🧊
Isn’t this just hip to shoulder separation?
WTG thank You iceberg
Enjoy!🧊
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This whole time I haven't been coiling! Been throwing around 200ft with a 250ft at best. Hope this gets me to a solid 250-300ft range!
Quick update on this - it's a subtle change from what I've been doing. Played 36 baskets today - used a little more uni-body twist than usual and paid attention to it in my head. Damn - accuracy better than usual, throws felt solid out of my hand. I did not measure any today, but they looked good. Elbow not jacked on any of them. Forehand future looks brighter !
Happy this helped you🧊
Awesome tips. Thank you. What type of discs would you recommend learning with? Under/Over-stable distance drivers or fairway?
I think a neutral fairway is probably best. Just my opinion. 🤷♂️
This video i threw 9 5 -2 2. Watch my other forehand tutorial i referrenced
Listen to that snap!
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I would really like to see the video where you throw that 500 times and see which discs and their weight.
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That's crazy you throw with your fingers straight out. I did that for like 5 years. Took me about 6 months to fix it. Throw much cleaner now
I throw 330-360 ish with wobble and no coiling. Super stoked to go try this. Never thought about it and checked. And I’ll be damned, no coiling 😅 I also only use my index finger throwing forehand’s and can’t find anyone else doing that so I was afraid that was the reason I didn’t throw further as I definitely yeet it hard enough compared to others :-P the wobble is probably also due to form and maybe stability from not using two finger stacked grip. It just feels way more natural for me only using the index finger 🤷🏻♂️
1 finger will always wobble a bit! Good luck with the coil!
@@IceBergTV thanks 💪🏼
There are now several pros throwing one finger forehands with no wobble. Try pinching the disc tighter between thumb and forefinger
@@Ziggy-md5ok THANK YOU! I’m sure you’re right I just can’t find any videos where they do. And I really feel the one finger grip is way more natural for me. Probably because I was somewhat of a rock skipping maniac back in the days 😂😜 edit: I do not get wobble all the time, I just get it more often than not. I’ve tried pinching harder but I didn’t really see much difference. Might be release angle too for me. May be a slight of axis throw or some shit. But I’ll try pinching harder again to see :-D
@@BushcrawlerAndrew Marwede is probably the pro that comes to mind for the one finger forehands and he can sling em!
Foot fault. Also great video 😂
Thanks!!!🧊🧊🧊
Forehand coiling wasn’t found in a search because you made that up. :)
This is a good example where getting some insight from a qualified sports trainer would help. The forehand is more than a rotational centered movement, there is a kinetic chain that involves a linear component, and predominantly lower body.
Be careful powering up a rotational side arm throw that only uses the upper body. Spine safety my friend, be safe.
If you are searching words, here is an interesting one…sagittal. Its the movement of the upper trunk leaning forward which helps move energy forward in part of the energy chain. The list of sports movement words/terms/phrases is pretty well defined outside disc golf.
Im using the terms popular in disc golf so the disc golfers watching will understand easily. I have my bachelors degree in exercise science and fully understand "proper technical terms". I want the explainations to be as digestible as possible. Thanks for your comment!
Subtle. Solid. Will try for sure.
Enjoy!🧊
How far are you throwing?
Bh 380 ish fh 425 ish.