I once got this girls phone number by playing sax solo over a Cypress Hill joint. Saxophonist are like Jedi: they can bend any music to their will, but you can only hope that they use it for good, not evil.
no lie, i took up sax while in gradeschool in the late 80's cause literally EVERYWHERE you looked in the media of that time, it seemed to get the ladies goin. sexamaphone, fo real. walking over a mile to/from school in the AZ heat with that giant black box of plumbing cured me of the possibility of becoming a starving musician. instead, i was just starving, and found other interests... i mean hobbies - still interested in what got the girls goin. turns out, the stamina & physique from playing soccer helps.
8:30 A funny thing about music now is that it is so much more accessible. It is so much easier to find different music today then literally ever. People definitely don’t take advantage of this
but on the flip side, mainstream pop music atm (from what i can tell) is pretty diverse. this could make it likely that people are actually taking advantage of streaming (& tiktok & the internet more generally) to find different music but it's happening on such a large scale that it is difficult to distinguish musical exploration from what is simply 'popular'. EDIT: another idea is that there could be a smaller percentage of people who are actually finding different music & then (supported by algorithms on platforms e.g. tiktok) influence the rest of the population which creates a wider range of what is considered pop music.
agree, it's impressive how you can find new artist and albums doing "mix from this song" some services with better algorithm of recommendation that others, in this case Deezer didn't leave down with this, not so for Spotify it just keeps recommend me the same popular artist, specially in electronic/techno/house music
I dunno for who was that question, but in this case I don't listen just 1 type of music, I got from metal to cumbias, and them disco, another swing and it's now soul and blues, no wait it's reggae, next song hip-hop and so on. so when I said I usually got the recommendations based in one song it's for different types of music, but I find Spotify very repetitive in recommendations specially in the electronic music, tends to send you the most know artist like deadmaus, Tiesto, David Guetta, aoki, yeah not bad but if I want something different from the usual in that style Spotify it's a no go for me
I agree, but I used to look forward to hanging out at record shops, finding obscure vibes, meeting people, the smell of insence, bringing home tapes and records..those was the days. not bad having it at ur fingertips but going out socializing and vibing was the shit, especially stumblin on a battle every now and then
The hot take about how disco killed funk and music was in a dark age for 50 years is the king of hot takes because the amount of ignorance you need to have to have that opinion is profound, considering how funk had one of its biggest decades in the 80s.
I'm a late 70s baby and for a while I've always stated that 80s music was kinda in limbo and didn't really have an identity. You had a dramatic evolution in RnB, Pop was kinda fun, but all over the place, Jazz was mostly ridiculed by other genres, rap was growing and was beginning to have a foothold, soundtracks and scores were pretty much everyone's throwaway pieces...etc.
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Though "purists" and instrumentalists of days past may look at sampling as a lack of creativity, there is actually a great deal of creativity that comes with sampling. Tracklib illustrates that masterfully with their Sample Breakdown videos.
If you think that people who sample can be "genius's" then what word do you use to separate the people who actually wrote produced and played the music originally?
@@ThatGuy-mn2ggthe best producers used reinterpretations of samples to create their vision. When you add to that the ability to loop the breaks, add drums, adjust the tempos to layer multiple samples, with scratches and notes added on top… the best were definitely savants. I don’t know why you’re trying to diminish the Dre’s Easy Mo Bee’s and Kanye’s talent but it’s undeniable.
@@keenkingjames not trying to diminish their work, just trying to put some respect on the names of all these people that hip hop community have made their livelihood on. Again if a sampler can be ascribed as a genius, what word has been invented for the people who actually wrote, produced, most importantly played the musical instruments and sang on. I think my comment is probably more of reaction to the word/words "genius" and "goats", and how they just have no value now.
The Isleys and EWF thumbnail had me worried 😂. I do understand why ppl like to compare but with every one of those you brought up I love those individual artists for separate reasons and don’t really compare them. Ppl just like to argue. Great video
There should be a better music IP system. IP protections should only exist to make sure that certain creators are compensated for their work. When it comes to music, everything should be a compulsory license. IP protections shouldn’t be a thing that makes monopolies. It should be a thing that gets people what they are owed.
Worst take. Awful take. You just wanna take peoples shit and be lazy. I say that as someone who had worked with samplers for over 20 years. The latter is exactly what it is, but. Ore artist friendly. You are not artist friendly.
I don't think Spotify not paying is solely a undercharge thing It's also a greed thing on top to bottom level, their CEO rakes in unbelievable amounts of money and so do the board of directors
definitely both. I agree with DtG that Spotify is undercharging but also if corporations were spending their money more frugally, the divide between platforms in profit doling would be much much narrower
hopefully you do another hot takes like this but on the community tab, itd be awesome and more accessible to other fans! great video anyway, loved the section on sampling
@5:16 section talking about artists comparison and finding the GOAT, this right here OMG... I'm glad you talked about it. I get so drained when people are talking about the GOAT and comparing artists when that's not how I think about artists. You couldn't of said it better yourself. And I'd say - preference is not a competition.
I’ve never understood why people love to compare artists whose styles and aesthetics aren’t comparable in any glaring, meaningful way (i.e. Sade vs Beyoncé, Luther vs MJ). Makes my eye twitch. Isleys vs EWF tho? *That’s* a debate I’d have my popcorn in hand for!
Spinning Isley Brother and Issac Hayes LPs today. Thank you for great content. Amen, there is a deeper connection when you purchase and spin your own curated, selected records/CDs.
Oof. This was... well, this was definitely some takes lol! I will say this: it made me realize i have my own takes, and made me establish my voice adout them. Also, love the 3d "over there, over there" view! Same here, and has been hard to explain til now. Thanks again, Prof!
My Green Day comment got mentioned. Lol. Shout out to Billie Joe and the rest of the 60 year old teenagers wearing eyeliner out there On a side note, the channel is awesome, my man. Keep up the amazing work.
Sampling and to a an extent Shocklees take on it was a huge portion of what drew me to hip hop and its related forms. There is something intrinsically beautiful about taking something familiar and creating a whole new thing out of it that is not only familiar but at the same time new and unique. I would point to the Pauls Boutique album which was the first to use only samples in its creation. I would point to Endtroducing which created an entire new genre of music. I would point to the hundreds if not thousands of trip hop artists that followed creating new and experimental sounds both of their own original as well as transformative works so deeply rich and layered that they are studied like college classes. Look at how it revived the careers of lost and forgotten artists like James Brown or Parliament just to name some obvious ones it revitalized their entire catalog and brought them back to relevance for a whole new audience. The IP system needs a lot of work, without it we will not just lose transformative works we will also lose or forget musical history. It is an art that needs to be preserved.
I have yet to join a streaming service. What I do have is an ever growing mp3 library which spans back to my college years when Napster came out. That mp3 library could double probably if I ever got around to ripping my 3 to 4 Caselogic CD binders stuffed full of CDs. I have classical music of varying types, rock of varying types, hip-hop of various types, jazz/R&B/funk, modern music (because most of it doesn't really have a genre - LIttle Dragon, Black Queen, Lorn, etc), and random stuff like Javanese Gamelan music. No country. I'm a musician so I respect anyone who can make music, but country makes me want to go Van Gogh on both my ears. I totally agree with your take on music being a 3d landscape. Take a stroll around to different parts, depending on how the mood strikes you.
You could say that all music streaming plattforms kind of underpay their artists, because they are companies. And companies always keep the bigger part for themselves. The only solution to this would be laws, since they can't afford earning less then their competitors.
So here’s the thing about Hamilton… The fact that it exists and has been the phenomenon we’ve all witnessed is a major statement for hip hop. This artform went from being brushed off as an “urban thing” to being tried in Congress all the way to being celebrated at the White House. Hamilton is undeniable proof that hip hop is as nuanced and can have as much broad appeal as classical, jazz, rock or country, it’s not just some inner-city, cop-hating, misogynistic noise. As far it being a watered-down version of the genre, I don’t agree but also don’t feel like that would be the worst thing even if it were true - any artform that has legs gets watered down if it stays in the mainstream long enough.
I don't know. I kinda feel like Hamilton is bringing the same sort of broad appeal that reaches an entire nation that Barney Rubble was years earlier when he said "My name is Barney Rubble and I'm here to say, I love Fruity Pebbles in a major way"
I don't even care if its watered down or not, it doesn't stop being dogshit because if it's "cultural inpact" or whatever the fuck goyshit you throw out there to justify that shit
It's also insanely inaccurate about history and is written about a fascist who was an inspiration for the Nazis. What shame the first time since 8 mile that rap is so huge culturally and its about someone so despicable.
Actually that one about ppl only streaming what’s popular is nonsense Im a manager at a restaurant n we all take turns on aux n I can’t believe how much variety the gen z kids play. N if I put on something a bit older or left field from like Talib Kweli to Aphex Twin to George Micheal, they either know it already or ask me what it is n they have no context of what’s new or old. It’s turned into a huge part of our little work culture for everyone to try n introduce the rest to some banger we’ve never heard. I love it n I admire how open these kids of all kinds of backgrounds are to want to appreciate the stuff other ppl love. I learned how to dance to Bachata last week, the other day two girls played some like metal breakdown stuff n everyone even vibed to it. I think when you see other ppl really enjoying something u maybe didn’t get before, it makes u wanna join in n rock out together as human beings. The whole thing has been on like a 3 year run n it never gets old. At first u get a new person n u know when they aux cuz they have only the music they knew before…but after a few weeks they end up adding so much from other ppl, it’s like a crazy mix of u never know what to expect. U can’t force this kinda stuff tho. That’s how corporate places ruin shit. In fact I have no idea how we haven’t gotten told by our overlords to stop blasting wall shaking volume music from the back cuz ppl are eating n they have rod Stewart or whatever playing on corp radio and you’ll hear like DMX or whatever in unignorable clarity superimposed over it
Loved that my hot takes made it 😂 (Isleys > EWF, Sade > Beyonce). I hoped he'd answer one of two ways (refuting or teaching) and he did the latter and I loved it. Wish he would have touched what I said about the Sylvers and the Jacksons. That's a discussion I'd love to hear.
Thank you for the comment! Since I decided to make this video AFTER getting so many responses, I left all the hot takes anonymous (people didn't agree to being mentioned in the video etc) - I don't know about Sylvers VS Jacksons - cuz, as I mention in this video, I don't like pitting one vs another - that being said, I LOVE the Sylvers 🔥
Instrumentally, I think the Isleys > EWF because I love hard funk music. But Including lyrics and vocals, EWF has it in my opinion. I get in more trouble saying that Parliament Funkadelic > EW&F.
i'd say an opinion of mine that could be considered a hot take is that i think Wu-tang forever is a fucking superb followup to Enter the wu-tang, and is probably the best hip hop double album ever.
Saxophonist here, sax almost works on everything. The real issue is that the style is not understood rather than the sax doesn’t fit. Cant tell you how many jazz gigs I’ve played where the sax doesn’t “belong”. The real issue is that I wasn’t encapsulating the vibe of the song in my playing. No different than guitar in jazz vs rock.
Where sax is really missing is in metal, but it requires a totally different playing style than what we think of when we think of saxophone. Sax can be sinister, menacing, overpowering, it can blend exceptionally well with distorted guitar... Not everyone can be Colin Stetson, but listen to New History Warfare vol. 2 and tell me sax doesn't belong in darker, louder rock.
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I must agree with your explanation of sampling and the comparison to lyrical reference points. Simple but definitely the best rationalization IMO. BTW, the entire saxophone plugs were slap hilarious. Again, I thank you for another well thought out and entertaining video post. ✊🏿❤ And Sade is by far better than Beyonce although their music and audiences differ again IMO but the whole Isley Brothers vs. EW&F is obviously a personal preference... I'm done rambling and I'm out bruh✌🏿
Had a lot of fun with this one - felt more like just relaxing with everybody, talking music - I love getting to hear from everybody in the DTG community 🔥
That Musical Dark Ages take was certainly… hot. Yeah. Lets use that adjective. It is far nicer to the take than anything I can say about it in a TH-cam comment
House of Pain, and Everlast in particular, are a hell of a lot better than they get credit for. I think Whitey Ford just shot himself in the foot when he tried calling out Em.
That disco one is the most egregious take I’ve ever heard. I think you meant to say, the birth of American Pop Music was disco and it began to replace feeling, personally, heart and soul for money, popularity and widening the reach. We are now at the promise land with Hip-Hop or Rap entering the popular space (Mid to Late 90s) and dominating all music (late 2010s-Now). From the outside looking in, music is diluted, has darting similarities and over saturated. From the inside looking out, hundreds of thousands of man hours, not owning your masters, and not being able to feed your children. This is NOT a hot take, but more of an explanation. Music did NOT decline, it finally started making Cents!!
Well said on how we don't have to rank everything. And also hate the fallacy that because you love 'A' you have to actively hate 'B'. I'm not a big fan of say metal or opera, but I don't hate them or the people that do. End of the day we all share a love of music in common. But Nickleback do objectively suck though.
Disco is a vital part of funk and soul, and people that hate disco have dubious reactions to gay people dancing together. Also, there is a ton of really terrible disco, especially during the late 70s. The best era of disco was the early 80s, in between the “death” of disco and the rise of house.
1:44 - is the Black Sheep lawsuit worth bringing up here? Majors investing in streaming services kinda confuses things a bit. I'd assume majors are getting better stream to payment ratios, given those conflicts of interest.
Hold on a second....a 3D horizontal plane?! That's a pretty bad hot take 😬😬 Surely the jazz music would be on a certain floor and then in each corner (maybe on the same floor as French improvised piano music), whilst other music would be floors above/below in different corners? I had to think for a second if I was thinking in a 4D space for minute.
We really need to establish a methodology for talking about Alexa that doesn't spark that crazy robot into action. I was watching this video - really not at a high volume - early this morning while the house was asleep and as soon as you said 'Alexa, play some music' she instructed my Sonos system to start pumping out some deep, deep beats at max volume. While I'm on, here's my hot take: The Walkman broke music. Before that, listening to music was an active choice: we put a record, or an 8-track cartridge - and and listened to the thing. With the Walkman, music suddenly became something that was happening while we were doing something else. From there, it's been a long slow slide to a point where 90% of listeners have no idea who is playing on the stuff they're listening to, who the engineers & producers are etc., and that blunts discovery, stifles curiosity, and imprisons listeners into lanes delineated by other peoples’ choices.
Spotify still definitely underpays because they could take way less of the top. Their CEO is worth over 2 billion and is making all that money at the artists' and his workers expense
Earth wind and fire and the isley brothers are my favourite two bands catelog impact longevity and debates are fun if its a legit battle. Matter of fact the verzuz held during the lockdown featured both acts steve harvey hosted
-Nirvana is okay but overrated; -Pearl Jam is overrated, period; -Prince needed a producer. He didn't need to release or record every. single. thing/idea he came up with.
Strange comment regarding Prince. A guy had enough talent to create that much work, more work than anyone in the 20th century, played over 27 instruments, wrote produced, arranged, played and sang on all of them, except when he wanted a band. Has sold over 200 million records and respected by every real musician from multiple genres. Also who's music will be here long after hip hop, and your comment "he needed a producer" No one captures the world their entire run. If you are lucky enough to have one "Thriller" or one "Purple Rain", you should be very happy. Prince was a genre unto himself. So to circle back around, Prince was the embodiment of music. Put some respect on his name.
The best thing Hamilton did was open floodgates for different genres in Broadway there's Six w pop music, Here Lies Live w disco and I'm sure more will come
He does have talent as a performer but tends to squander his potential at times and his fans are too willing to give him a pass for any of his new stuff whether it’s warranted or otherwise
He's hot steaming garbage. Everything he puts out is completely derivative. There's borrowing a hook or drawing inspiration from something, and then there's just flat out carbon copy paste. He's the latter.
My Music Hot Takes are: Double,Expanded and Deluxe Albums can be very Long and Bloated with Filler Albums shouldn’t be over a hour long Because it’s too Bloated Music was better before Autotune Country Pop isn’t REAL Country Music A Band does NOT need to change their name when they have lineup changes it’s still the same Band
I really wonder if you seat down with one of these people that talk abour over-rated, under-rated and rankings and ask them what the objective criteria for these ideas are, what would they say. Could they point at actual elements in the music that can be cuantified or at least described with precission. I mean, at least record sales are a number.
If Spotify was structured like Tidal, there would be no Spotify. They only exist because of the free tier. And it is not the user's fault that the corporation can't get ad revenue deals that are worth anything. That is entirely on Spotify. I don't negotiate their AdSense contract, they do. And I say this as a paying Spotify user. You countered a good take with a bad version of the good take. Quite frankly your entire theory fits TH-cam far better and it's laughable to think "TH-cam shouldn't have a 'free tier'". The entire site would cave in on itself and implode if only paid users could view content. And, again, if you aren't keen on your ad revenue take away, that isn't the users fault here anymore than at Spotify. That's firmly on you, TH-cam, and AdSense to work out. But I'm not a moocher because I watch your content on ads anymore than Spotify free users are moochers for listening on ads. Get better ad revenue splits. But don't blame me.
I'm sad I missed the bold statements/crazy takes. I don't like insta like that. Here's mine. -House, Techno are Hip-hop subgenres. -Dub is first Edm genre. -Reggaetón & Dembow are the same genre, but different places. -Reggaetón was created in Jamaica (production wise), not Panama nor Puerto Rico. -Only reason Panama claims Reggaetón as theirs is because its (the most) famous. Reason why they don't claim Dominican Dembow. -Jazz & HipHop are the same culturally, just one was just high jacked & white wash to make folk feel better.
That Spotify payout math sounds like it leaves a lot of room for some people behind the scenes making a little leak here n there. I’m just sayin… N Return of the Mack is a national treasure.
I know its google based....but I use TH-cam music. It has most of the albums i eould like to listen to...And they have community playlists that are better tham the algorithm could ever give me. Would love to know how you feel about that. Hope im not too late to rhe game to get a reply. Love what you do. Especially coming up in the mid nineties hitting hip hop and jam band shows equally! Both genres were sampling beautifully at that time....just sayin
I once got this girls phone number by playing sax solo over a Cypress Hill joint. Saxophonist are like Jedi: they can bend any music to their will, but you can only hope that they use it for good, not evil.
😂😂
Okay I GOTTA know the Cypress Hill song you jammed over my guy
no lie, i took up sax while in gradeschool in the late 80's cause literally EVERYWHERE you looked in the media of that time, it seemed to get the ladies goin. sexamaphone, fo real.
walking over a mile to/from school in the AZ heat with that giant black box of plumbing cured me of the possibility of becoming a starving musician. instead, i was just starving, and found other interests... i mean hobbies - still interested in what got the girls goin. turns out, the stamina & physique from playing soccer helps.
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A funny thing about music now is that it is so much more accessible. It is so much easier to find different music today then literally ever. People definitely don’t take advantage of this
but on the flip side, mainstream pop music atm (from what i can tell) is pretty diverse.
this could make it likely that people are actually taking advantage of streaming (& tiktok & the internet more generally) to find different music but it's happening on such a large scale that it is difficult to distinguish musical exploration from what is simply 'popular'.
EDIT: another idea is that there could be a smaller percentage of people who are actually finding different music & then (supported by algorithms on platforms e.g. tiktok) influence the rest of the population which creates a wider range of what is considered pop music.
agree, it's impressive how you can find new artist and albums doing "mix from this song" some services with better algorithm of recommendation that others, in this case Deezer didn't leave down with this, not so for Spotify it just keeps recommend me the same popular artist, specially in electronic/techno/house music
I'm surprised that you think pop music is pretty diverse.
Compared to when?
I dunno for who was that question, but in this case I don't listen just 1 type of music, I got from metal to cumbias, and them disco, another swing and it's now soul and blues, no wait it's reggae, next song hip-hop and so on.
so when I said I usually got the recommendations based in one song it's for different types of music, but I find Spotify very repetitive in recommendations specially in the electronic music, tends to send you the most know artist like deadmaus, Tiesto, David Guetta, aoki, yeah not bad but if I want something different from the usual in that style Spotify it's a no go for me
I agree, but I used to look forward to hanging out at record shops, finding obscure vibes, meeting people, the smell of insence, bringing home tapes and records..those was the days. not bad having it at ur fingertips but going out socializing and vibing was the shit, especially stumblin on a battle every now and then
The hot take about how disco killed funk and music was in a dark age for 50 years is the king of hot takes because the amount of ignorance you need to have to have that opinion is profound, considering how funk had one of its biggest decades in the 80s.
it definitely didnt kill it but for a lot of people what ruins it is the electronic takeover and the thin mixdowns of 80s rnb
i can understand, the person dont like the 80s,90s,00s,10s. but say that and tell we live in a goldnage, its absolutely atrocious.
@@_viih97lol exactly. ....that's what got me!
I'm a late 70s baby and for a while I've always stated that 80s music was kinda in limbo and didn't really have an identity. You had a dramatic evolution in RnB, Pop was kinda fun, but all over the place, Jazz was mostly ridiculed by other genres, rap was growing and was beginning to have a foothold, soundtracks and scores were pretty much everyone's throwaway pieces...etc.
@@tywayne3 80s metal is the bomb diggity, its where the genre really came into its own
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Couldn't say it any better #knocklesnar
Though "purists" and instrumentalists of days past may look at sampling as a lack of creativity, there is actually a great deal of creativity that comes with sampling.
Tracklib illustrates that masterfully with their Sample Breakdown videos.
Absolutely - more thoughts on the magic of sampling later in this video
If you think that people who sample can be "genius's" then what word do you use to separate the people who actually wrote produced and played the music originally?
@@ThatGuy-mn2ggthe best producers used reinterpretations of samples to create their vision. When you add to that the ability to loop the breaks, add drums, adjust the tempos to layer multiple samples, with scratches and notes added on top… the best were definitely savants. I don’t know why you’re trying to diminish the Dre’s Easy Mo Bee’s and Kanye’s talent but it’s undeniable.
@@keenkingjames not trying to diminish their work, just trying to put some respect on the names of all these people that hip hop community have made their livelihood on. Again if a sampler can be ascribed as a genius, what word has been invented for the people who actually wrote, produced, most importantly played the musical instruments and sang on. I think my comment is probably more of reaction to the word/words "genius" and "goats", and how they just have no value now.
Your videos are always entertaining and informative and your stance on not ranking music made me stick my hand in my virtual pocket and say thank you!
Thank you so much 🙏 I appreciate the support!
The Isleys and EWF thumbnail had me worried 😂. I do understand why ppl like to compare but with every one of those you brought up I love those individual artists for separate reasons and don’t really compare them. Ppl just like to argue. Great video
There should be a better music IP system. IP protections should only exist to make sure that certain creators are compensated for their work. When it comes to music, everything should be a compulsory license. IP protections shouldn’t be a thing that makes monopolies. It should be a thing that gets people what they are owed.
Agreed!
Worst take. Awful take. You just wanna take peoples shit and be lazy.
I say that as someone who had worked with samplers for over 20 years.
The latter is exactly what it is, but. Ore artist friendly. You are not artist friendly.
I appreciate that you see music as a record store and not a standings chart.
I don't think Spotify not paying is solely a undercharge thing
It's also a greed thing on top to bottom level, their CEO rakes in unbelievable amounts of money and so do the board of directors
definitely both. I agree with DtG that Spotify is undercharging but also if corporations were spending their money more frugally, the divide between platforms in profit doling would be much much narrower
hopefully you do another hot takes like this but on the community tab, itd be awesome and more accessible to other fans! great video anyway, loved the section on sampling
@5:16 section talking about artists comparison and finding the GOAT, this right here OMG... I'm glad you talked about it. I get so drained when people are talking about the GOAT and comparing artists when that's not how I think about artists. You couldn't of said it better yourself. And I'd say - preference is not a competition.
Love your take on not ranking music. Whole-heartedly agree.
I’ve never understood why people love to compare artists whose styles and aesthetics aren’t comparable in any glaring, meaningful way (i.e. Sade vs Beyoncé, Luther vs MJ). Makes my eye twitch. Isleys vs EWF tho? *That’s* a debate I’d have my popcorn in hand for!
Spinning Isley Brother and Issac Hayes LPs today. Thank you for great content. Amen, there is a deeper connection when you purchase and spin your own curated, selected records/CDs.
Oof. This was... well, this was definitely some takes lol!
I will say this: it made me realize i have my own takes, and made me establish my voice adout them.
Also, love the 3d "over there, over there" view! Same here, and has been hard to explain til now. Thanks again, Prof!
My Green Day comment got mentioned. Lol. Shout out to Billie Joe and the rest of the 60 year old teenagers wearing eyeliner out there
On a side note, the channel is awesome, my man. Keep up the amazing work.
Sampling and to a an extent Shocklees take on it was a huge portion of what drew me to hip hop and its related forms. There is something intrinsically beautiful about taking something familiar and creating a whole new thing out of it that is not only familiar but at the same time new and unique. I would point to the Pauls Boutique album which was the first to use only samples in its creation. I would point to Endtroducing which created an entire new genre of music. I would point to the hundreds if not thousands of trip hop artists that followed creating new and experimental sounds both of their own original as well as transformative works so deeply rich and layered that they are studied like college classes. Look at how it revived the careers of lost and forgotten artists like James Brown or Parliament just to name some obvious ones it revitalized their entire catalog and brought them back to relevance for a whole new audience. The IP system needs a lot of work, without it we will not just lose transformative works we will also lose or forget musical history. It is an art that needs to be preserved.
The pacing of your videos is just incredibly tight!
As a Sade stan, I was listening intently to that Sade > Beyonce take lmao. You were prolly wise to "no comment" that one 😂😂
I have yet to join a streaming service. What I do have is an ever growing mp3 library which spans back to my college years when Napster came out. That mp3 library could double probably if I ever got around to ripping my 3 to 4 Caselogic CD binders stuffed full of CDs. I have classical music of varying types, rock of varying types, hip-hop of various types, jazz/R&B/funk, modern music (because most of it doesn't really have a genre - LIttle Dragon, Black Queen, Lorn, etc), and random stuff like Javanese Gamelan music. No country. I'm a musician so I respect anyone who can make music, but country makes me want to go Van Gogh on both my ears.
I totally agree with your take on music being a 3d landscape. Take a stroll around to different parts, depending on how the mood strikes you.
You could say that all music streaming plattforms kind of underpay their artists, because they are companies. And companies always keep the bigger part for themselves. The only solution to this would be laws, since they can't afford earning less then their competitors.
So here’s the thing about Hamilton…
The fact that it exists and has been the phenomenon we’ve all witnessed is a major statement for hip hop. This artform went from being brushed off as an “urban thing” to being tried in Congress all the way to being celebrated at the White House. Hamilton is undeniable proof that hip hop is as nuanced and can have as much broad appeal as classical, jazz, rock or country, it’s not just some inner-city, cop-hating, misogynistic noise.
As far it being a watered-down version of the genre, I don’t agree but also don’t feel like that would be the worst thing even if it were true - any artform that has legs gets watered down if it stays in the mainstream long enough.
I don't know. I kinda feel like Hamilton is bringing the same sort of broad appeal that reaches an entire nation that Barney Rubble was years earlier when he said "My name is Barney Rubble and I'm here to say, I love Fruity Pebbles in a major way"
I don't even care if its watered down or not, it doesn't stop being dogshit because if it's "cultural inpact" or whatever the fuck goyshit you throw out there to justify that shit
It's also insanely inaccurate about history and is written about a fascist who was an inspiration for the Nazis. What shame the first time since 8 mile that rap is so huge culturally and its about someone so despicable.
This is one of your best yet, and that's sayin' something. I enjoyed this immensely. Thank you so much, man.
Actually that one about ppl only streaming what’s popular is nonsense Im a manager at a restaurant n we all take turns on aux n I can’t believe how much variety the gen z kids play. N if I put on something a bit older or left field from like Talib Kweli to Aphex Twin to George Micheal, they either know it already or ask me what it is n they have no context of what’s new or old. It’s turned into a huge part of our little work culture for everyone to try n introduce the rest to some banger we’ve never heard. I love it n I admire how open these kids of all kinds of backgrounds are to want to appreciate the stuff other ppl love. I learned how to dance to Bachata last week, the other day two girls played some like metal breakdown stuff n everyone even vibed to it. I think when you see other ppl really enjoying something u maybe didn’t get before, it makes u wanna join in n rock out together as human beings. The whole thing has been on like a 3 year run n it never gets old. At first u get a new person n u know when they aux cuz they have only the music they knew before…but after a few weeks they end up adding so much from other ppl, it’s like a crazy mix of u never know what to expect. U can’t force this kinda stuff tho. That’s how corporate places ruin shit. In fact I have no idea how we haven’t gotten told by our overlords to stop blasting wall shaking volume music from the back cuz ppl are eating n they have rod Stewart or whatever playing on corp radio and you’ll hear like DMX or whatever in unignorable clarity superimposed over it
T-Pain is literally the reason of 808s and Heartbreak was made. One of the most influential hip-hop albums of all time.
Facts
Back in the early days of FaceBook, I posted "Faith Evans > Mary J Blige", and my circle of friends nearly self-immolated they were so mad
The best hip hop channel on TH-cam. This man is a professor of hiphop love this content!
Loved that my hot takes made it 😂 (Isleys > EWF, Sade > Beyonce). I hoped he'd answer one of two ways (refuting or teaching) and he did the latter and I loved it. Wish he would have touched what I said about the Sylvers and the Jacksons. That's a discussion I'd love to hear.
Thank you for the comment! Since I decided to make this video AFTER getting so many responses, I left all the hot takes anonymous (people didn't agree to being mentioned in the video etc) - I don't know about Sylvers VS Jacksons - cuz, as I mention in this video, I don't like pitting one vs another - that being said, I LOVE the Sylvers 🔥
Islets vs. EWF = fights. Sade.... while you cannot really compare them ... Sade... all MF day
Instrumentally, I think the Isleys > EWF because I love hard funk music. But Including lyrics and vocals, EWF has it in my opinion. I get in more trouble saying that Parliament Funkadelic > EW&F.
Isleys were WAY better than EWF, especially on the vocal and "vibe" front
@@DocFunk Isleys WAY better vocals
i'd say an opinion of mine that could be considered a hot take is that i think Wu-tang forever is a fucking superb followup to Enter the wu-tang, and is probably the best hip hop double album ever.
Aw man, I missed the original hunt for hot takes on your socials. Here’s my late one: Steely Dan is yacht rock with extra steps
Saxophonist here, sax almost works on everything. The real issue is that the style is not understood rather than the sax doesn’t fit.
Cant tell you how many jazz gigs I’ve played where the sax doesn’t “belong”.
The real issue is that I wasn’t encapsulating the vibe of the song in my playing. No different than guitar in jazz vs rock.
Where sax is really missing is in metal, but it requires a totally different playing style than what we think of when we think of saxophone. Sax can be sinister, menacing, overpowering, it can blend exceptionally well with distorted guitar... Not everyone can be Colin Stetson, but listen to New History Warfare vol. 2 and tell me sax doesn't belong in darker, louder rock.
THE BEST AND ONLY TAKE THAT MATTERS 5:59
6:50 Is it 3D if it's on a horizontal plane?
I love collecting music. I just got a copy of Fantastic Vol. 2. Can't wait to hear it. But I respect that people like the easy access to spotify.
Bro I love love your videos!! Great content. Started listening to the podcasts too. So interesting & informative I feel like if we were around eachother we would be friends lol. I'm sure u won't see this cuz like u said in previous videos u stay away from the comments but I figured I respond anyways. I dig your channel & nas is 1 of my most favorite mc's ever. Krs1 black thought Yasin bey common hov royce crooked I Joel ortiz Kendrick cole wayne lupe deck meth redman ghost just to name a few lol I love guru gangstar is my stuff!! Peace & love
Love your channel!! Amazing content as always. What are the names of the books behing you? Im curious to read them lol
What’s the song in the background 10:58 ?
I must agree with your explanation of sampling and the comparison to lyrical reference points. Simple but definitely the best rationalization IMO. BTW, the entire saxophone plugs were slap hilarious. Again, I thank you for another well thought out and entertaining video post. ✊🏿❤
And Sade is by far better than Beyonce although their music and audiences differ again IMO but the whole Isley Brothers vs. EW&F is obviously a personal preference... I'm done rambling and I'm out bruh✌🏿
Had a lot of fun with this one 🙏 And Joe KILLED it with the sax segments 😂
😂I can tell
Love this video format!
Had a lot of fun with this one - felt more like just relaxing with everybody, talking music - I love getting to hear from everybody in the DTG community 🔥
So, at 10:13 on the video Brandon says "Alexa, play some music", and guess what happens? Alexa on my Echo Dot starts playing some music. Hmmmmm?
8:55.... I have the PERFECT solution for this one..!
Shout-out to all saxophonists and those working with them! Trust a hornsman: our favorite instrumentalists are obviously bassies ;) 🎷🎸💞
Ranking art gets on my nerve. Im in this mood for this song.
That Musical Dark Ages take was certainly… hot. Yeah. Lets use that adjective. It is far nicer to the take than anything I can say about it in a TH-cam comment
Yep - I have MANY questions 😂
Here’s a hot take: jazz is super accessible, but old heads gatekeep, thus making it more difficult to get into
You had me really thinking on that michael jackson joke lmao. But I like what you did there🤣
I love when digging the greats uploads
5:20 That’s facts and I stand by it, I guarantee it
Comparing EWF vs Isley Brothers is sacrilegious! 😤
Nah, isleys brothers are way better than ewf! But that doesn’t mean ewf isn’t one of the greatest bands of all time!
House of Pain, and Everlast in particular, are a hell of a lot better than they get credit for. I think Whitey Ford just shot himself in the foot when he tried calling out Em.
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On the saxophone hot takes: Don't just add saxophone to everything, replace guitar in every song with saxophone a la "50:50" by Sad Lovers and Giants
¡Gracias!
Thank you so much for the support 🙏
the chanel is absolutley sick! :-) @@diggingthegreats
Dude you set my echo speaker off twice with that Alexa take 😂
Paying ya grand pops to talk about his draws is hilarious.
thanks for breaking down my spotify take B !!!
Thanks for the take Eli 🔥
That disco one is the most egregious take I’ve ever heard. I think you meant to say, the birth of American Pop Music was disco and it began to replace feeling, personally, heart and soul for money, popularity and widening the reach. We are now at the promise land with Hip-Hop or Rap entering the popular space (Mid to Late 90s) and dominating all music (late 2010s-Now). From the outside looking in, music is diluted, has darting similarities and over saturated. From the inside looking out, hundreds of thousands of man hours, not owning your masters, and not being able to feed your children. This is NOT a hot take, but more of an explanation. Music did NOT decline, it finally started making Cents!!
Those sax sections are straight fuego!🎷🔥🎷🔥
On the Hamilton hot take... Jorge Rivera-Herran's "Epic"... that is a good example of where it is giong. Just putting this out there.
Well said on how we don't have to rank everything. And also hate the fallacy that because you love 'A' you have to actively hate 'B'. I'm not a big fan of say metal or opera, but I don't hate them or the people that do. End of the day we all share a love of music in common. But Nickleback do objectively suck though.
Disco is a vital part of funk and soul, and people that hate disco have dubious reactions to gay people dancing together. Also, there is a ton of really terrible disco, especially during the late 70s. The best era of disco was the early 80s, in between the “death” of disco and the rise of house.
1:44 - is the Black Sheep lawsuit worth bringing up here? Majors investing in streaming services kinda confuses things a bit. I'd assume majors are getting better stream to payment ratios, given those conflicts of interest.
If I could only pick 4 TH-cam channels to watch for the rest of time, you would be one of them. Your content is superb
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Hold on a second....a 3D horizontal plane?! That's a pretty bad hot take 😬😬
Surely the jazz music would be on a certain floor and then in each corner (maybe on the same floor as French improvised piano music), whilst other music would be floors above/below in different corners?
I had to think for a second if I was thinking in a 4D space for minute.
Aww. Pity I missed the community post. I got some spice to shake out of the jar.
i feel like we're in a dark age of rap right now. the crossing between vapor, cloud, and hiphop is where my hope is.
If it's a ratio of 40/60 premium to free on Spotify, how many of those users are active? Does it count inactive free users?
12:21 That girl could’ve just said Daveed Diggs. He’s both in Hamilton and he’s in a rap group
I just learned so much. Great video
We really need to establish a methodology for talking about Alexa that doesn't spark that crazy robot into action.
I was watching this video - really not at a high volume - early this morning while the house was asleep and as soon as you said 'Alexa, play some music' she instructed my Sonos system to start pumping out some deep, deep beats at max volume.
While I'm on, here's my hot take: The Walkman broke music.
Before that, listening to music was an active choice: we put a record, or an 8-track cartridge - and and listened to the thing. With the Walkman, music suddenly became something that was happening while we were doing something else.
From there, it's been a long slow slide to a point where 90% of listeners have no idea who is playing on the stuff they're listening to, who the engineers & producers are etc., and that blunts discovery, stifles curiosity, and imprisons listeners into lanes delineated by other peoples’ choices.
You gotta make this a series
Spotify still definitely underpays because they could take way less of the top. Their CEO is worth over 2 billion and is making all that money at the artists' and his workers expense
16:16 😂😂😂😂😂
You are a master at this yt creator s#!t.
This video set my Alexa off in my house.
Earth wind and fire and the isley brothers are my favourite two bands catelog impact longevity and debates are fun if its a legit battle. Matter of fact the verzuz held during the lockdown featured both acts steve harvey hosted
-Nirvana is okay but overrated;
-Pearl Jam is overrated, period;
-Prince needed a producer. He didn't need to release or record every. single. thing/idea he came up with.
Thank youuuuuu for this Prince comment.
MJ wouldn't have had this unbelievable number of smash songs without his producers.
Strange comment regarding Prince. A guy had enough talent to create that much work, more work than anyone in the 20th century, played over 27 instruments, wrote produced, arranged, played and sang on all of them, except when he wanted a band. Has sold over 200 million records and respected by every real musician from multiple genres. Also who's music will be here long after hip hop, and your comment "he needed a producer" No one captures the world their entire run. If you are lucky enough to have one "Thriller" or one "Purple Rain", you should be very happy. Prince was a genre unto himself. So to circle back around, Prince was the embodiment of music. Put some respect on his name.
yo so real for that, as a sax player in not normal sax contexts- yea
Wake up babe new Digging the Greats just dropped
Great video! thanks !
🙏 had a lot of fun with this one
The best thing Hamilton did was open floodgates for different genres in Broadway there's Six w pop music, Here Lies Live w disco and I'm sure more will come
😻Much needed convo
The first ever Sprite commercial he did is the best thing he’s ever done.
Drake isn’t as good as everyone says
I never could stand his voice.
Cold take
He does have talent as a performer but tends to squander his potential at times and his fans are too willing to give him a pass for any of his new stuff whether it’s warranted or otherwise
I’ll go further: he’s bloody awful.
He's hot steaming garbage. Everything he puts out is completely derivative. There's borrowing a hook or drawing inspiration from something, and then there's just flat out carbon copy paste. He's the latter.
This should be a series
My Music Hot Takes are:
Double,Expanded and Deluxe Albums can be very Long and Bloated with Filler
Albums shouldn’t be over a hour long Because it’s too Bloated
Music was better before Autotune
Country Pop isn’t REAL Country Music
A Band does NOT need to change their name when they have lineup changes it’s still the same Band
I really wonder if you seat down with one of these people that talk abour over-rated, under-rated and rankings and ask them what the objective criteria for these ideas are, what would they say. Could they point at actual elements in the music that can be cuantified or at least described with precission. I mean, at least record sales are a number.
Great video as always. Loved the Spotify take #Teamhorizontal
I always say youtube is like the worlds histroical jukebox
If Spotify was structured like Tidal, there would be no Spotify. They only exist because of the free tier. And it is not the user's fault that the corporation can't get ad revenue deals that are worth anything. That is entirely on Spotify. I don't negotiate their AdSense contract, they do. And I say this as a paying Spotify user. You countered a good take with a bad version of the good take.
Quite frankly your entire theory fits TH-cam far better and it's laughable to think "TH-cam shouldn't have a 'free tier'". The entire site would cave in on itself and implode if only paid users could view content. And, again, if you aren't keen on your ad revenue take away, that isn't the users fault here anymore than at Spotify. That's firmly on you, TH-cam, and AdSense to work out. But I'm not a moocher because I watch your content on ads anymore than Spotify free users are moochers for listening on ads.
Get better ad revenue splits. But don't blame me.
I'm sad I missed the bold statements/crazy takes.
I don't like insta like that.
Here's mine.
-House, Techno are Hip-hop subgenres.
-Dub is first Edm genre.
-Reggaetón & Dembow are the same genre, but different places.
-Reggaetón was created in Jamaica (production wise), not Panama nor Puerto Rico.
-Only reason Panama claims Reggaetón as theirs is because its (the most) famous. Reason why they don't claim Dominican Dembow.
-Jazz & HipHop are the same culturally, just one was just high jacked & white wash to make folk feel better.
sade is a totally different artist where does that comparison comes from lmao
the lead singers name and face are so fitting for their band name and sound lol
My hot take is mariachi is just country ska
Tejano is Mexican death metal.
They have a say on what product they want to put out. To them, apparently, that means , on using addictive substances on-stage.
1:44 isn't that .00318 dollars? And therefore .318c?
That Spotify payout math sounds like it leaves a lot of room for some people behind the scenes making a little leak here n there. I’m just sayin…
N Return of the Mack is a national treasure.
4:22 KING KRULE
As a Green Day fan since the age of 15, I found that comment hilarious! 😆
I know its google based....but I use TH-cam music. It has most of the albums i eould like to listen to...And they have community playlists that are better tham the algorithm could ever give me. Would love to know how you feel about that. Hope im not too late to rhe game to get a reply. Love what you do. Especially coming up in the mid nineties hitting hip hop and jam band shows equally! Both genres were sampling beautifully at that time....just sayin