TinkerTavern what are you dumb?! They took down the official links tomorrow. You can't download ram anymore you have to use it over the cloud now they started doing this 8 years from now.
eddy pamfil Hmm..yep, I didn't think about that. But the freedom to adjust the graphical levels does indeed increase the life of an older PC allowing it to perhaps play a modern title.
Pack Leader Jeff I agree with you, but considering a new line if consoles was released in 2012, an Xbox 360 or a PS3 can no longer run newer games like this PC can and its a 2008 workstation. It may have been top of the line but now it's pretty old and it's value has dramatically depreciated.
That computer was a snag for just 30$. I just uploaded a video where I tried to game on a 10$ computer and did not have great results.... I already have a q6600 and 8gb of RAM in the mail though, so hopefully I can get some better results.
A pain. The CPUs hold this thing back. Might end up with better results if it overclocks a little. I like the CPU-count in the overlay however. Feels superior somehow hehe
I'm owner of xw4600 (single socket and with core2 duo) and I tried to find how to OC but without success. In case you find something, let me know ^^. That system will be replaced soon with R5 2600 (unsure which motherboard).
To OC CPU on the 775/771 socket with the BIOS locked you'll need to use the BSEL method. I love that method because it is like: You want to go faster? Just tape it. linustechtips.com/main/topic/594645-harpertown-xeon-bsel-overclock-e5450/ Really. You need electrical tape (anything that cuts electricity) and put it in that exact spot. It's a OC without increasing the voltage. I did it on my Q6600 from 2.4 to 3.0 and the majority of the games worked much better than before. GTA was missing some textures when I went to the city at 2.4GHz, but not at 3.0GHz. You can do it and try it. You can't fry the CPU because you're just tapping something, not adding voltage. As I said, with the Q6600 worked like a charm, I'm not so sure with the E5450 but it can work.
Nice to see how those 8 cores bottleneck the GPU (GTX 960 2GB), I think an i5 2400 3.4Ghz (Turbo boost turned on) would satisfy the GTX 960's needs to achieve the full load for a smoother gameplay experience, I enjoyed watching this video and i have learned lots of things such as "8 cores of 2 quad core workstation CPUs from 2007 aren't enough for modern gaming and would bottleneck any mid-range GPU like GTX 1050 or better, Overall its still a good budget PC for the price :D" But for editing, This PC is a beast! considering its age (11 y.o) Thanks for the video pal. Core i5 2400 for the win
thingggy I have a dual Xeon x5460 system (similar to the ones in the video) mine clock at 3.16ghz but I’m hoping I can do a tape over lock like on the lga 775 CPU’s. That should give me a bit more performance out of them and hopefully not bottleneck
I would try to max that board out for processors and see what it can do. If you want to get adventurous, maybe try some old school overclocking via pad-modding.
YES. Budget-Builds Official set the "minimum playable" Crysis system with a 2.4GHz Socket 478 Northwood Pentium 4 with 2GB of DDR1 and an ATI Radeon X800 running Windows XP, achieving 30-45fps at mixed low and medium settings at 1280x1024.
I'm very much liking that you can grab old pro-level hardware for cheaper than most current bottom range desktops, give it a run for its money and make a cheaper build. If I didn't have a job that could afford high end hardware I would likely have gotten myself a second hand Xeon desktop, having started off from a 2006 core 2 duo.
I did a very similar thing around January. I replaced the old CPU with an Opteron 1308 (I think), changed its PSU, then added a GTX 275, totaled no more than like $50 in total.
Love the video! Running a stronger video card would be great to see. maybe a single 6 pin 1060 3/6 gig model? Also a cheap ssd boot drive if not already done? This old 11 year Rig surprises me with decent performance. Keep up the great work RandomGamingHD, I really enjoyed this project. Thanks!
It actually surprises me that dual xeon workstations can be found for so cheap, and throw in a small upgrade, and there you have it, a perfectly capable gaming machine.
The best part is the Windows Vista license sticker on the side... The 5400 Series Xeons are basically the equivalent of the Core 2 QUAD line which preceded Nehalem. Desktop CPU's were still the same basic architecture and process as the Xeons at that time. One Thing I found out first hand the hard way was the power draw difference between Core 2 architecture and Nehalem ( Core I7 etc.) I had a bunch of blade servers I had to upgrade from 51 to 56x series Xeons (Westmere 32 nm) and literally brought a bunch of enterprise class APC PDU's to shutdown when they came up. The Core CPU equivalents were the 970, 990x, etc with the 32nm die shrink.
You mentioned in an early video the motherboard is SLI compatible, I would try to put a low watt gpu in the 2nd slot and configure it as a physx card, it might boost gaming and especially video editing.
Nice build idea. Little Note about wolfenstein. This game gets my 980 ti to Its knee's (Les then 20 fps) on 1080p in a couple of places. And drops below 60 a lot. A friend with a 980 called the game unplayable in 1080p
Only issue is lack of ipc, as most games won't use more then 4 cores, but other than that insane budget rig. And with the 4 ( basically unused) cores, you could stream quite easily, or even make this a stream box for your main rig. Not like steam stream but like to twitch
Nice video, though contrary to one of your last statements: The GTX 960 got bottlenecked hard in Watchdogs 2 and 1 other game before it (can't really remember which one now).
This reminds me of my super budget gaming era. I bought, i think it was, an old Dell Precision 690 Workstation tower and it worked great for a while. It had 2 Intel Xeon 5160 Dual Cores for a total of 4. I added 16GB of ram for great multi tasking with a solid state Hard-drive. I think the last video card i had in it was a GTX 670. It was no I7 machine but it held its own very well!
I had one of those for years - picked it up cheap in about 2012, it lasted me well, I ended up with a 980 GTX and an SSD/HDD combo. The biggest problem was latency with those FB-DIMMs, although having quad channel was nice. Also, the CPUs, still of Core 2 DNA suffered from using the aged FSB, although this system does have two independant FSBs which does help a bit.
I think its just insane how its running off DDR2 and all these people if you try to post ads on craigslist or forums about a pc your selling with ddr3 they'll hate on you and tell you thats old but this things even older with ddr2 and is still kicking.
toontownlegomaster people dont realise many things such as they swallow whatever they hear from companies and *techrats* the thing is that there is some platforms that was so strong in their time that can still kick ass and even beat much more newer and more expensive combos in a much more lower cost such as the x58 platform.in the future lets say 7-8 years from now the x99 and the x299 will be in the same boat as x58 is now. Because it supports strong xeons..Not all generations supported strong xeons.
Great video as always! I have here sitting behind me a Xeon xw6400, a model down from what you have, so its missing 2 RAM slots and the higher end PSU. Since it's been sitting here though, the board has died so I may look at putting the 6600 mobo in it. Seems to be still capable in 2018 and well if I get the quad-core models, there may be some use in her just yet .
Hey man,I just wanna say,firstly congrats on 200k subs. I have been watching you since 50k. Anyways,you are one of my favourite tubers and keep going strong as you have been doing alla along. Ill se you in the next video 😂
RandomGaminginHD no. I thank YOU for being an amazing youtuber. Ive been trying to follow your footsteps,since,my native language isnt english,ive learnt a lot from your vids. Anyways have a nice day man,you deserve it
My cousin is still using his 13 year old PC,which was really high-end these days, With 4GB DDR2,Core 2 duo and GTX 6800 he was able to play any game that was released! And i was curious that it was able to run mafia 2 at highest settings
Great restoration 😌 Do you manually download the games you tested via your steam account? Or is there a way to speed things up- transfer files from your current PC into this old one? This coming from a country with 🐢 download speeds
Why do you reckon the 960 can't stay pinned at 99% usage? Do you really think those 5450s are not offering enough data to your GPU fast enough? Something seems fishy... Actually now as I watch the video further, I am noticing that those frames are largely thanks to that 960. The 960 can't quite push a steady 60 on Ultra @ 1080p (neither could the gtx 970 or even 980 for that matter in some titles). Great video!
I know you are limited by that 6 pin connector yet I reckon you could squeeze some more out with a better card. Most of those cores are floating around 70-90% usage. Great video though mate.
The only gaming anchor to this machine is the DDR2 and I doubt it will hurt it that much if the GPU is holding DDR3 or DDR4. Throw in a cheap SSD for the games to load from and you have a winner.
Could you maybe try out some sort of Linux on it? I know it's a super wild idea, but maybe you could compare the speed in typical workstation tasks? For recording, you could use OBS, for rendering Black Magic Resolve, and for 3D modeling maybe Blender? Would love to see such a video
Nice 😊I use a Dell T5500 with dual Xeon X5675 and 48GB ram for the occasional stint in Skyrim when it isn't doing workstation stuff, graphics size it uses dual Quadro K4200s, although not in sli.
I have a xw 8600 that I have been thinking about upgrading from it's two dual core 3.33 GHz to the two quad core e5450's and this video made my decision
I have 2 of these workstations. One is running with r9 290, 2 psu fitted into the same pc case, because of the high power requirements of the gpu. Other one has gtx 960 working with just one psu and 32gb of ram. Love these old workstations, still goes strong in 2019. You can make a video of 2 psu setup, its cheaper than getting a new psu, but with xw6600 you can't even do that cuz hp made sure you can't use any other psu.
Pretty interesting usage of VRAM in most games and cpu usage in BF1 and Watch Dogs. Didn't think these games were this CPU-intensive, especially Watch Dogs.
I got one of these for free from an Uncle who found it outside of a workplace that was getting rid of computers. It had 2 quad core xeons and an amd firepro gpu, pretty cool.
Oh boi just look at the utilisation, those Xeons do bottleneck a lot, because I have the same GTX960 with an i7-2600 and it gets 75fps average in PUBG constant 99% utilisation, 1080p, 90pov, AA/high, textures and post processing/med rest/verry low. Paring those Xeons with a better GPU would be a waste of money.
Exactly. Imo the most one should pair it with would be a 950 or 750 Ti. Above that, it'd be a pretty big waste. Sandy Bridge or Nehalem is where i'd be aiming if you're planning on a 960 or above, because the single core performance would be a huge step up from the previous Intel CPUs.
That's true, i've seen huge increases in performance even from small overclocks on these old Xeons and core2quads. Though, it's a workstation prebuilt so he probably didn't have the option to do so.
In Watch Dogs 2 the CPU was the limiting factor, as you could see. While all the cores of the CPU ran at around 90% the graphics card was at around 40%.
I’ve done the bsel mod with dual x5460s before. You never see any performance increase in games. The CPUs are bottlenecked by the garbage FB-DIMMs you have to use with a configuration such as this.
Steve Burkhart 🤓 yes on some, on Mac Pro and the 490 precision requires Fully Buffered Dimm ECC memory, on the Dell T3400 supports both types the full buffered ecc memory and supports regular consumer memory, and on X58 X79 you usually can use both types as well, check specs when shopping 📺😸
As a PC gamer these days, we have never had it better with the choice of budget components. My daughter is running an I5 2400 with a GTX 1050 and runs most games at 60-80fps at high graphics settings. My son's PC is similar with an I5 3470 and a GTX 960 both 2GB cards with 8GB RAM. So good
Get some higher clocked CPUs and if possible, some new CPU coolers. Maybe even a custom loop in this case, would be interesting to see a budget custom loop cooling 2 cpus.
I know this is an old video, but did you get windows 10 working on it? I didnt hear whether you said you did or not. I have dual Xeon X5470 and windows 10 will not work for me.
Jani SIr It should be fine. The CPUs are a little worse than an old FX-8350 at stock speeds, but the FX does fine with a Titan Xp (I usually prefer more power from a crossfire setup). It shouldn't be much different from an 8700k as long as only 1 Titan is used.
that 960 was DEFINITELY being Bottlenecked. i used to have a 960 2gb before i upgraded to a 1060 3gb. watch dogs ran ALOT better than that. playable actually with about 45-60fps on the high preset. and wildlands ran lightyears better too. Those xeons are definitely bottlenecking that 960.
You just built an entire gaming PC for the price of a GTX 1050 (in the UK). Well done!
i looked up similar prices and its like $400 here in us oof
this aged like milk
@@sherme I did not expect another GPU apocalypse phase. Now the GTX 1050 is like the only one you can buy unless you want a GT 1030, lol.
Why didn't you download more RAM? Is it because of the bad internet speed?
The wam wasn't dedotated, that was problem
TinkerTavern what are you dumb?! They took down the official links tomorrow. You can't download ram anymore you have to use it over the cloud now they started doing this 8 years from now.
maybeDOS don't try to fool him. I put my PC directly under the cloud and it got wet as hell.
how TO DOWNLOAD MORE *dEDoTAtED WAwM*
TinkerTavern you're joking right ?
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I love watching these types of videos, old tech that can still hang!
Yeah!!! It's like my grandpa that try to catch some young girls, or try to catch the bus.
MirelRc lollll
Z3CHYD check out tech yes city then.Full of Xeon love
I am still rocking a pentium M as my main laptop, I own a duo core one. But the old laptop is still running decent. Pc's last for ever it seems.
I'm running a dual Opteron system with 8 cores and it does EVERYTHING I ask it to and then some!! I love these old systems.
So a 2008 PC can out preform a current console. Yep, that's just the nature of PC.
ThatFox mhhh in FPS yes, but these pc not in graphical level on most of the games as i see in this particular video...
ThatFox You also have to realize this was nearly top of the line when it was created a typical 2008 pc can't do much even with upgrades
eddy pamfil Hmm..yep, I didn't think about that. But the freedom to adjust the graphical levels does indeed increase the life of an older PC allowing it to perhaps play a modern title.
Pack Leader Jeff I agree with you, but considering a new line if consoles was released in 2012, an Xbox 360 or a PS3 can no longer run newer games like this PC can and its a 2008 workstation. It may have been top of the line but now it's pretty old and it's value has dramatically depreciated.
Xbox 360 and Ps3 no chance with this PC, this is more almost with a base One or Ps4 (in some games better in some games worst) the point is this...
who remembers back when he pronounced cex as sex lol
thats how they advertise themselves as sex
I remembered it vividly from one of his videos about best sites to buy used pc parts.
I pronounce it like that
As someone who has previously worked for the company, it is pronounced "sex" although I have never done so.
I actually asked my English teacher this at collage and she said that if it’s spelled CEX exactly like that then you can say it like sex
Me: HP you got any workstation with a Xeon processor?
HP: One Xeon?! Pff Nah scrub you'll need two Xeons, twice the performance!
Me: :O
ComputerCatGaming hey uuhhh you got any of them Xeons?
LordIron I wish
and double TDP
Atreedee MH lol RIP electricity bill
ComputerCatGaming honestly I'd love to test out like an older Xeon processor to see how it does nowadays.
When you go all out, I would definitely go SSD and try to remove that drive cage to really free up some airflow to the Xeons.
thanks for the windows vista license key
well at least someone wants it lol
Damn, I totally wanted that! 😂
lol
That computer was a snag for just 30$. I just uploaded a video where I tried to game on a 10$ computer and did not have great results.... I already have a q6600 and 8gb of RAM in the mail though, so hopefully I can get some better results.
Yeah the q6600 is still going strong. I'll have to check that video out :)
well $30 is THRICE as much as $10 after all 😜
McG Tech subscribed 😁
RWL2012 Now that you say it like that I don't feel as bad about how the 10$ computer held up during gaming, haha. Thanks for subbing!
McG Tech welcome :)
A pain. The CPUs hold this thing back. Might end up with better results if it overclocks a little. I like the CPU-count in the overlay however. Feels superior somehow hehe
Haha yeah it looks good. The GPU was actually holding the system back in some instances, though I'll definitely have to check out overclocking options
sounds like gtx 960 is perfect for this build
I'm owner of xw4600 (single socket and with core2 duo) and I tried to find how to OC but without success. In case you find something, let me know ^^. That system will be replaced soon with R5 2600 (unsure which motherboard).
I think HP locks the BIOS
To OC CPU on the 775/771 socket with the BIOS locked you'll need to use the BSEL method.
I love that method because it is like: You want to go faster? Just tape it.
linustechtips.com/main/topic/594645-harpertown-xeon-bsel-overclock-e5450/
Really. You need electrical tape (anything that cuts electricity) and put it in that exact spot.
It's a OC without increasing the voltage. I did it on my Q6600 from 2.4 to 3.0 and the majority of the games worked much better than before. GTA was missing some textures when I went to the city at 2.4GHz, but not at 3.0GHz.
You can do it and try it. You can't fry the CPU because you're just tapping something, not adding voltage.
As I said, with the Q6600 worked like a charm, I'm not so sure with the E5450 but it can work.
0:55 DAVE YOU STIL ALIVE MY GOD WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ?
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I suspect you will see better performance if you can mess with your RAM timings.
Ok, none talks about the multiple Windows COA sticker he place on it?
He will sell the PC with multiple Windows 7 Licences :D
DanielC im using all those keys. He derpd hard.
Nice to see how those 8 cores bottleneck the GPU (GTX 960 2GB), I think an i5 2400 3.4Ghz (Turbo boost turned on) would satisfy the GTX 960's needs to achieve the full load for a smoother gameplay experience, I enjoyed watching this video and i have learned lots of things such as "8 cores of 2 quad core workstation CPUs from 2007 aren't enough for modern gaming and would bottleneck any mid-range GPU like GTX 1050 or better, Overall its still a good budget PC for the price :D"
But for editing, This PC is a beast! considering its age (11 y.o)
Thanks for the video pal.
Core i5 2400 for the win
thingggy I have a dual Xeon x5460 system (similar to the ones in the video) mine clock at 3.16ghz but I’m hoping I can do a tape over lock like on the lga 775 CPU’s. That should give me a bit more performance out of them and hopefully not bottleneck
Again why dislike this video? Great content and well spoken with lots of great information. ... I think it was great
Awesome video dude. You killed it with this old work Station to a OK beast
Exactly what this channel is great at. Some of you best work.
I have a 1080 ti yet I'm addicted to your channel because these possibilities excite me lol
This is quality - im doing something similar with a Xeon X5675 on the X58 platform and have to say im very impressed with what it can do!
Used Tech Hustle good boy
The GTX 960 was running at 30% load in watch dogs 2 and around 60-70% in other games, thats hard bottleneck
I would try to max that board out for processors and see what it can do.
If you want to get adventurous, maybe try some old school overclocking via pad-modding.
Awesome budget build, nice work
Can it run Crysis?
Definitely Not Snowden I wouldn’t be surprised if it could!
No, it Will literally explode, duh
YES. Budget-Builds Official set the "minimum playable" Crysis system with a 2.4GHz Socket 478 Northwood Pentium 4 with 2GB of DDR1 and an ATI Radeon X800 running Windows XP, achieving 30-45fps at mixed low and medium settings at 1280x1024.
This joke is dead, like Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley...
Crysis memes still exist?
I'm very much liking that you can grab old pro-level hardware for cheaper than most current bottom range desktops, give it a run for its money and make a cheaper build.
If I didn't have a job that could afford high end hardware I would likely have gotten myself a second hand Xeon desktop, having started off from a 2006 core 2 duo.
I did a very similar thing around January. I replaced the old CPU with an Opteron 1308 (I think), changed its PSU, then added a GTX 275, totaled no more than like $50 in total.
Love the video! Running a stronger video card would be great to see. maybe a single 6 pin 1060 3/6 gig model? Also a cheap ssd boot drive if not already done? This old 11 year Rig surprises me with decent performance. Keep up the great work RandomGamingHD, I really enjoyed this project. Thanks!
just shows that ram speed doesn't make much differnce playing those games on ddr2 is impressive.
It actually surprises me that dual xeon workstations can be found for so cheap, and throw in a small upgrade, and there you have it, a perfectly capable gaming machine.
I'm just new to this Channel so far I am enjoying every uploads
The best part is the Windows Vista license sticker on the side...
The 5400 Series Xeons are basically the equivalent of the Core 2 QUAD line which preceded Nehalem. Desktop CPU's were still the same basic architecture and process as the Xeons at that time. One Thing I found out first hand the hard way was the power draw difference between Core 2 architecture and Nehalem ( Core I7 etc.) I had a bunch of blade servers I had to upgrade from 51 to 56x series Xeons (Westmere 32 nm) and literally brought a bunch of enterprise class APC PDU's to shutdown when they came up. The Core CPU equivalents were the 970, 990x, etc with the 32nm die shrink.
This is proper value for money. Great video.
0:45 Look at all those stickers! that alone is worth it!
You mentioned in an early video the motherboard is SLI compatible, I would try to put a low watt gpu in the 2nd slot and configure it as a physx card, it might boost gaming and especially video editing.
You can get a molex or SATA converters for 8 Pin connectors.
This channel should be called " A hoarder in the making"
Excellent video as usual, keep up with such a good work !
I love these old HP workstations. You should check out the Z400 & Z420 workstations. I think the Z420 is the best value on the market today.
Nice build idea.
Little Note about wolfenstein. This game gets my 980 ti to Its knee's (Les then 20 fps) on 1080p in a couple of places. And drops below 60 a lot.
A friend with a 980 called the game unplayable in 1080p
Only issue is lack of ipc, as most games won't use more then 4 cores, but other than that insane budget rig. And with the 4 ( basically unused) cores, you could stream quite easily, or even make this a stream box for your main rig. Not like steam stream but like to twitch
Nice video, though contrary to one of your last statements: The GTX 960 got bottlenecked hard in Watchdogs 2 and 1 other game before it (can't really remember which one now).
I just got a T3500 for less than a hundred dollars with fast and free shipping and it's an absolute beast
show us temperature of cpu. also vram and ram usage.
Savior of decent budget gaming community
I have this same system with R9 280x with no issues at all. Games runs flawlessly!
Hey those Dell rams were assembled in Singapore!!
Fantastic build.
This reminds me of my super budget gaming era. I bought, i think it was, an old Dell Precision 690 Workstation tower and it worked great for a while. It had 2 Intel Xeon 5160 Dual Cores for a total of 4. I added 16GB of ram for great multi tasking with a solid state Hard-drive. I think the last video card i had in it was a GTX 670. It was no I7 machine but it held its own very well!
nice vid but can you compare this system versus your own editing rig in another video?
I remember having a FX 5200 tornado and that card gave me so many problems.
I had one of those for years - picked it up cheap in about 2012, it lasted me well, I ended up with a 980 GTX and an SSD/HDD combo. The biggest problem was latency with those FB-DIMMs, although having quad channel was nice. Also, the CPUs, still of Core 2 DNA suffered from using the aged FSB, although this system does have two independant FSBs which does help a bit.
I think its just insane how its running off DDR2 and all these people if you try to post ads on craigslist or forums about a pc your selling with ddr3 they'll hate on you and tell you thats old but this things even older with ddr2 and is still kicking.
toontownlegomaster people dont realise many things such as they swallow whatever they hear from companies and *techrats* the thing is that there is some platforms that was so strong in their time that can still kick ass and even beat much more newer and more expensive combos in a much more lower cost such as the x58 platform.in the future lets say 7-8 years from now the x99 and the x299 will be in the same boat as x58 is now. Because it supports strong xeons..Not all generations supported strong xeons.
Great video as always! I have here sitting behind me a Xeon xw6400, a model down from what you have, so its missing 2 RAM slots and the higher end PSU. Since it's been sitting here though, the board has died so I may look at putting the 6600 mobo in it. Seems to be still capable in 2018 and well if I get the quad-core models, there may be some use in her just yet .
Hey man,I just wanna say,firstly congrats on 200k subs. I have been watching you since 50k. Anyways,you are one of my favourite tubers and keep going strong as you have been doing alla along. Ill se you in the next video 😂
Thanks man :)
RandomGaminginHD no. I thank YOU for being an amazing youtuber. Ive been trying to follow your footsteps,since,my native language isnt english,ive learnt a lot from your vids. Anyways have a nice day man,you deserve it
Any chance of testing Qauke Champions in the future?
I want to be able to hunt down for dirt cheap component sales just like this guy.
I'm wondering if you could get a fury with it and have a VR pc for around 300 quid
My cousin is still using his 13 year old PC,which was really high-end these days,
With 4GB DDR2,Core 2 duo and GTX 6800 he was able to play any game that was released! And i was curious that it was able to run mafia 2 at highest settings
Great restoration 😌
Do you manually download the games you tested via your steam account? Or is there a way to speed things up- transfer files from your current PC into this old one?
This coming from a country with 🐢 download speeds
Why do you reckon the 960 can't stay pinned at 99% usage? Do you really think those 5450s are not offering enough data to your GPU fast enough? Something seems fishy...
Actually now as I watch the video further, I am noticing that those frames are largely thanks to that 960. The 960 can't quite push a steady 60 on Ultra @ 1080p (neither could the gtx 970 or even 980 for that matter in some titles).
Great video!
Love your videos, continue doing these !
I know you are limited by that 6 pin connector yet I reckon you could squeeze some more out with a better card. Most of those cores are floating around 70-90% usage. Great video though mate.
I would like to see you max the performance of this computer as a workstation. Maybe get an editing card and use the 960 on another build
I think you can buy 6pin to 2x 6+2pin adapters. Or molex to 6+2pin at least?
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The only gaming anchor to this machine is the DDR2 and I doubt it will hurt it that much if the GPU is holding DDR3 or DDR4.
Throw in a cheap SSD for the games to load from and you have a winner.
Hey, love your videos, but could you try putting in a more powerful video card for the next video?
Could you maybe try out some sort of Linux on it? I know it's a super wild idea, but maybe you could compare the speed in typical workstation tasks? For recording, you could use OBS, for rendering Black Magic Resolve, and for 3D modeling maybe Blender? Would love to see such a video
Nice 😊I use a Dell T5500 with dual Xeon X5675 and 48GB ram for the occasional stint in Skyrim when it isn't doing workstation stuff, graphics size it uses dual Quadro K4200s, although not in sli.
Did you do a 3rd video on this?
its awesome xeons keep up with todays titles
I have a Dell precision T7500 with dual xeon w5590's, a 980 ti, and 32gb of ram and it kicks ass
RandomGamingHD would you ever do a giveaway on your budget builds?
Ubisoft's engines are horribly unoptimized and one of the reasons why i don't buy many new ubisoft games.
Ubisoft sucks ass I don't play their games even if I pirate them, EA is going the same way, gaming is on the hands of a few indie developers sadly
yeah farecry 5 sucked
Cpu seems to be a bottleneck, recommend an x5660 on x58 platform that’s what I’m running
death stroke would be a way more expensive build though
I have a xw 8600 that I have been thinking about upgrading from it's two dual core 3.33 GHz to the two quad core e5450's and this video made my decision
Great video man.
I have 2 of these workstations. One is running with r9 290, 2 psu fitted into the same pc case, because of the high power requirements of the gpu. Other one has gtx 960 working with just one psu and 32gb of ram. Love these old workstations, still goes strong in 2019. You can make a video of 2 psu setup, its cheaper than getting a new psu, but with xw6600 you can't even do that cuz hp made sure you can't use any other psu.
You can swap the cpu's to an x5460, e5472 or go overboard with X5492, love your videos
Pretty interesting usage of VRAM in most games and cpu usage in BF1 and Watch Dogs. Didn't think these games were this CPU-intensive, especially Watch Dogs.
Yeah, this is why I'd probably go for the 4GB variant of the card - especially nowadays.
The website randomgaminginhd had used, cex has stopped shipping in the US.
I found a compaq presario 2200 at a yard sale today almost bought it but i did some quick research and it sounds like they have technical issues often
I got one of these for free from an Uncle who found it outside of a workplace that was getting rid of computers. It had 2 quad core xeons and an amd firepro gpu, pretty cool.
Would this make a good streaming pc if it's just for offloading all the load off a gaming pc ?
Can you use molex to 6 pin or 8 pin adapters and unplug the dvd drive?
Oh boi just look at the utilisation, those Xeons do bottleneck a lot, because I have the same GTX960 with an i7-2600 and it gets 75fps average in PUBG constant 99% utilisation, 1080p, 90pov, AA/high, textures and post processing/med rest/verry low. Paring those Xeons with a better GPU would be a waste of money.
Exactly. Imo the most one should pair it with would be a 950 or 750 Ti. Above that, it'd be a pretty big waste.
Sandy Bridge or Nehalem is where i'd be aiming if you're planning on a 960 or above, because the single core performance would be a huge step up from the previous Intel CPUs.
If you could only overclock them maybe then ...
That's true, i've seen huge increases in performance even from small overclocks on these old Xeons and core2quads. Though, it's a workstation prebuilt so he probably didn't have the option to do so.
LaBombaRomba - Gaming, Tech and more! Yeah right... Do dual did socket motherboards exist though with OC support?
they do exist, its just dell and hp BIOS's lock them.
Nice garden my dude.
In Watch Dogs 2 the CPU was the limiting factor, as you could see. While all the cores of the CPU ran at around 90% the graphics card was at around 40%.
What website was that you found it on? I'm always on the lookout for cheap PC's
Try your local used parts market. I found a R7 1700 + X370 board for about $250 once right where I live. I think he bought it on ebay or CEX
That website was not ebay, CEX did or Gumtree.
I am never lucky in the cheap finds but I do pull a lot of Pentium 4 machines out of skips.
Found the website, it was Shpock.
Try to disable one CPU. I want to know the performance differences between a few applications that are CPU bound.
remember how you overclocked a cpu with tape? really want to know if that will work with that cpu as well?????? would be worth a shot.
Kaleb Watson 🤓 thats only with Q6600 cpus
I’ve done the bsel mod with dual x5460s before. You never see any performance increase in games. The CPUs are bottlenecked by the garbage FB-DIMMs you have to use with a configuration such as this.
Steve Burkhart 🤓 yes on some, on Mac Pro and the 490 precision requires Fully Buffered Dimm ECC memory, on the Dell T3400 supports both types the full buffered ecc memory and supports regular consumer memory, and on X58 X79 you usually can use both types as well, check specs when shopping 📺😸
oh okay i did not know what all core 2 quads this would work for.
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As a PC gamer these days, we have never had it better with the choice of budget components. My daughter is running an I5 2400 with a GTX 1050 and runs most games at 60-80fps at high graphics settings. My son's PC is similar with an I5 3470 and a GTX 960 both 2GB cards with 8GB RAM. So good
Ross McIvor 60-80 fps on high settings with a 1050 is simply not possible at least not in newer AAA titles.And I left aside this weak cpu.
Can you bump up the Base Clock a few Mhz for an overclock?
Get some higher clocked CPUs and if possible, some new CPU coolers. Maybe even a custom loop in this case, would be interesting to see a budget custom loop cooling 2 cpus.
I know this is an old video, but did you get windows 10 working on it? I didnt hear whether you said you did or not. I have dual Xeon X5470 and windows 10 will not work for me.
Damn, this is a good PC, even nowadays.
Jam the best gpu you have and try out 4k gaming
Jani SIr It should be fine. The CPUs are a little worse than an old FX-8350 at stock speeds, but the FX does fine with a Titan Xp (I usually prefer more power from a crossfire setup). It shouldn't be much different from an 8700k as long as only 1 Titan is used.
that 960 was DEFINITELY being Bottlenecked. i used to have a 960 2gb before i upgraded to a 1060 3gb. watch dogs ran ALOT better than that. playable actually with about 45-60fps on the high preset. and wildlands ran lightyears better too. Those xeons are definitely bottlenecking that 960.
Same I still have one and get 60 fps in bf1 on Ultra
When a $150 machine beats your 500$