@iworshipgaysandsatan6822 But they don't sound so good, they can't manipulate textures and they don't use the whistle register musically as an integral part of the song, they just hit the notes.
If you're interested in hearing how Pentatonix incorporated Avi's overtones into songs I recommend either E.T from their sing-off performances (live) or Starships (not live but also from their earlyish days)
Overtones are interesting accents. PTX, during the Sing Off, made use of Avi's ability during a few performances. In those instances, it really helped fill out the sound...handy in a capella. Oddly enough, as unusual as it is, the judges never once appeared to notice.
Not everyone has an ear for overtones or partials (audible harmonics that aren't specifically isolated for an overtone). In fact a very small minority have an ear for it naturally. Most people have to train their ears for it. High level choirs focus a lot on formant structure and overtone control to match and harmonize with each other. Some operatic singers end up producing them incidentally from the resonance, and it is often unnoticed by listeners. Lyrically the only singer I know of that has truly mastered this arena of the voice is Diana Ankudinova, and she has physiology that gives her an edge (High Arched Palate).
Avi also put it into their rendition of the song Aha! - it's just a few seconds, but it works out with the "creepy vibe" they gave the song with their official video.
Avi Kaplan is a beatboxer as well in case you were unaware and always backed up Kevin Olusola when he was in Pentatonix. Here the 2 of them are discussing it at an early seminar Sing Strong Festival 2012 th-cam.com/video/xnbwR9sIOPI/w-d-xo.html Avi Kaplan famously won the ICCA best rythmn section award in 2009 renamed from beatboxing to give it to him and has used it in multiple singing performances and yes it is the Mongolian throat singing technique that he uses. E.T. and Dog Days Are Over are the easiest places to hear it on the 3rd season of the Sing-Off. The easiest place to hear it in a Pentatonix video is either Starships or the best is "Aha". He did teach it to all of Pentatonix and Homefree, and Voiceplay now uses it as well.
This video should include Indicator- I'm an Alien. It was his biggest beatbox moment and the debut of a technique he aptly calls "Alien Bass". SO good.
Khoomei is using the oral cavity (and tongue) for overtones. You don't need to combine it with Kargyraa (constricting to involve the false folds). In fact there's a head voice version of it used quite heavily by Diana Ankudinova (whom you have heard perform). Some high level choirs in Germany use it as well so they can match their partials (formant structure) to each other.
Thanks for shouting out Stitch! For some reason it seems like beatboxers from the competitive scene don't get much attention from people interested in vocal technique, and similarly there's a lot of beatbox fans who don't listen to other kinds of singers. I think its changing more recently, in the past there was a lot more attention on complex beats and finding weird sounds, now beatboxers who pay more attention to melody and structure are getting more popular. It would be cool to see more collaborations between competitive beatboxers and a cappella groups. There was a Korean show Vocal Play (not to be confused with the group VoicePlay), that brought in a lot of top competitive Korean beatboxers and had them work with other singers and a capella groups and it was a lot of fun.
By the way MB14, one of the most famous vocal loopers in the beatbox scene, was previously on The Voice France and got 2nd place, and is back now on their All Stars edition with famous competitors from past years. He's made it into the top 6, and he'll be competing in the finals on the 23rd, so its great that he's representing the beatbox scene for a different audience. Also the Grand Beatbox Battle is finally happening this week on the 22nd, it will be a little while before official videos go up, but it will be great to see a lot of beatboxers on stage again. Overall a very exciting week for the beatboxing scene.
I remember going to middle school with a girl who could do all sorts of weird stuff with her voice. Like "That Dude From Police Academy" Weird. I mostly remember her faking us out by making a sound like a gym whistle to get us all to line up at recess and confused the teachers because they hadn't blown one, and her going full Rob Zombie with some serious vocal fry. Our music teacher was terrified it was going to damage her vocal chords, but she never had any issues as far as I know. Hilarious person that used her weird vocal talent to make people laugh.
Nice story! I "accidentally" learned vocal fry (without ever knowing what it was - this was in the 80s before the internet) when I was maybe 7 and tried to imitate the voice of E. T., it was the first movie I saw in cinemas. I learned how to do it without damaging my voice. Funnily enough, almost 40 years later I learned throat singing and found out that Kargyrra is basically the same technique that I had already learned when I was 7 😮.
I honestly forgot how to sing polyphonically but a friend and I used to be able to phrase words and sing clearer with four masks at once, happened for a few months. This was years ago but I forgot how we even came about it.
i have been able to produce overtones, was pretty quick and easy to learn, BUT, it's extremely weak and i have no control whatsoever of what note comes out or where it goes from there, lol. i also have no vocal capabilities whatsoever, and breath management is a no go, so i run out of breath so quickly. but at least there is a very weak overtone there, haha. 😜 it's also nowhere near as high up the scale as Avi's notes. may be around the top of the 4th octave, at best. i'm a contralto though, with very limited high range.
Since you specialize in musical theater I really wish you would react to Bo Burnham's Welcome to the Internet. I would really love to hear your thoughts on it.
Speaking of polyphonic voices - why am I able to do one breathing in extremely easily and it essentially comes naturally to me, however breathing out I haven't gotten it once? Is there a reason for this, and am I alone or this or are there more people who experience(d) this?
I remember the first time I hear Eivør Pálsdóttir: Tròdlabùndin (Trøllabundin) ( th-cam.com/video/wsl-KHGe4Kk/w-d-xo.html ) Not only me, but my dogs too had these strange alien sensation, in the part with the "beatbox/inalation" ( maybe). Certainly a different sound!
You need to listen to Mike Patton, the most versatile voice in rock (or any genre, really)! There are several compilations, here's one of them: th-cam.com/video/2VVHwUYN2co/w-d-xo.html
Mariah speaking in whistle tones will always be super impressive to me! The only artist that uses it musically rather than a party trick!
Minnie Ripperton did it too.
A LOT of people can do it
@iworshipgaysandsatan6822 But they don't sound so good, they can't manipulate textures and they don't use the whistle register musically as an integral part of the song, they just hit the notes.
If you're interested in hearing how Pentatonix incorporated Avi's overtones into songs I recommend either E.T from their sing-off performances (live) or Starships (not live but also from their earlyish days)
Pentatonox also used Avi's overtones in early performances of Aha. You can most easily see it in the Livestream version.
They also used it in Love You Long Time!
th-cam.com/video/apyq1F0Byls/w-d-xo.html
He does in Angels we have heard in High as well.
Avi still blows my mind
Overtones are interesting accents. PTX, during the Sing Off, made use of Avi's ability during a few performances. In those instances, it really helped fill out the sound...handy in a capella. Oddly enough, as unusual as it is, the judges never once appeared to notice.
Not everyone has an ear for overtones or partials (audible harmonics that aren't specifically isolated for an overtone). In fact a very small minority have an ear for it naturally. Most people have to train their ears for it. High level choirs focus a lot on formant structure and overtone control to match and harmonize with each other. Some operatic singers end up producing them incidentally from the resonance, and it is often unnoticed by listeners.
Lyrically the only singer I know of that has truly mastered this arena of the voice is Diana Ankudinova, and she has physiology that gives her an edge (High Arched Palate).
Avi also put it into their rendition of the song Aha! - it's just a few seconds, but it works out with the "creepy vibe" they gave the song with their official video.
oh, they noticed - they ascribed it to Kevin.
Yeah, they thought Kevin was doing those sounds.
Avi does use it in the official video of Aha (Imogene Heap) at 2:07
I’m simple.. I see Avi, I click on the video 😍😍
Same here. He can sing or just read the label on a jar of Skippy and I'm there !
“Sorry, Mariah, just hang on” - how I feel every November
Avi Kaplan😍😍😍
Avi Kaplan is a beatboxer as well in case you were unaware and always backed up Kevin Olusola when he was in Pentatonix. Here the 2 of them are discussing it at an early seminar Sing Strong Festival 2012
th-cam.com/video/xnbwR9sIOPI/w-d-xo.html
Avi Kaplan famously won the ICCA best rythmn section award in 2009 renamed from beatboxing to give it to him and has used it in multiple singing performances and yes it is the Mongolian throat singing technique that he uses. E.T. and Dog Days Are Over are the easiest places to hear it on the 3rd season of the Sing-Off. The easiest place to hear it in a Pentatonix video is either Starships or the best is "Aha".
He did teach it to all of Pentatonix and Homefree, and Voiceplay now uses it as well.
I've noticed that Geoff also does beatboxing to back up Layne in Voiceplay.
React to Mariah Carey Vanishing MSG 93. Please... It's an incredible performance !
There are several PTX songs where Avi used overtones.
One example for Avi using his overtone singing is the Song Aha! With Pentatonix...it is so damn cool what He is capable of with his voice
@4:42, @Ken, My kid is half Inuit and the first time he saw ppl do it... he's been doing throat singing every since!
This video should include Indicator- I'm an Alien. It was his biggest beatbox moment and the debut of a technique he aptly calls "Alien Bass".
SO good.
Yeah Avi did that in Alien..
😊 I adore Avi. 😊
Khoomei is using the oral cavity (and tongue) for overtones. You don't need to combine it with Kargyraa (constricting to involve the false folds). In fact there's a head voice version of it used quite heavily by Diana Ankudinova (whom you have heard perform). Some high level choirs in Germany use it as well so they can match their partials (formant structure) to each other.
Few singers maybe can do whistle voices like Mariah. But Mariah's whistle it's so unique and softest.
Minnie Ripperton can.
@@sersastark Mariah Carey's whistle's soft becuz she has air in her vocal.
Thanks for shouting out Stitch! For some reason it seems like beatboxers from the competitive scene don't get much attention from people interested in vocal technique, and similarly there's a lot of beatbox fans who don't listen to other kinds of singers. I think its changing more recently, in the past there was a lot more attention on complex beats and finding weird sounds, now beatboxers who pay more attention to melody and structure are getting more popular. It would be cool to see more collaborations between competitive beatboxers and a cappella groups. There was a Korean show Vocal Play (not to be confused with the group VoicePlay), that brought in a lot of top competitive Korean beatboxers and had them work with other singers and a capella groups and it was a lot of fun.
By the way MB14, one of the most famous vocal loopers in the beatbox scene, was previously on The Voice France and got 2nd place, and is back now on their All Stars edition with famous competitors from past years. He's made it into the top 6, and he'll be competing in the finals on the 23rd, so its great that he's representing the beatbox scene for a different audience. Also the Grand Beatbox Battle is finally happening this week on the 22nd, it will be a little while before official videos go up, but it will be great to see a lot of beatboxers on stage again. Overall a very exciting week for the beatboxing scene.
The bit from The Voice is the French version
It's still impressive but I must say I've been spoiled for polyphonic voice with all the beatboxers who do it
Now. Not until after Avi started teaching and everybody
I remember going to middle school with a girl who could do all sorts of weird stuff with her voice. Like "That Dude From Police Academy" Weird. I mostly remember her faking us out by making a sound like a gym whistle to get us all to line up at recess and confused the teachers because they hadn't blown one, and her going full Rob Zombie with some serious vocal fry. Our music teacher was terrified it was going to damage her vocal chords, but she never had any issues as far as I know. Hilarious person that used her weird vocal talent to make people laugh.
Nice story! I "accidentally" learned vocal fry (without ever knowing what it was - this was in the 80s before the internet) when I was maybe 7 and tried to imitate the voice of E. T., it was the first movie I saw in cinemas. I learned how to do it without damaging my voice. Funnily enough, almost 40 years later I learned throat singing and found out that Kargyrra is basically the same technique that I had already learned when I was 7 😮.
I’m pretty sure Geoff used overtones in ‘Kidnap The Sandy Claws’
He’s doing,”In the Jungle”.
what is the difference between polyphonic and overtone singing?
I honestly forgot how to sing polyphonically but a friend and I used to be able to phrase words and sing clearer with four masks at once, happened for a few months. This was years ago but I forgot how we even came about it.
i have been able to produce overtones, was pretty quick and easy to learn, BUT, it's extremely weak and i have no control whatsoever of what note comes out or where it goes from there, lol. i also have no vocal capabilities whatsoever, and breath management is a no go, so i run out of breath so quickly. but at least there is a very weak overtone there, haha. 😜
it's also nowhere near as high up the scale as Avi's notes. may be around the top of the 4th octave, at best. i'm a contralto though, with very limited high range.
Since you specialize in musical theater I really wish you would react to Bo Burnham's Welcome to the Internet. I would really love to hear your thoughts on it.
Please react to Lucifers - Sinnerman, and then especially to the end note😍
reACT MORE MARIAH CAREY VIDEOS!!!!
Speaking of polyphonic voices - why am I able to do one breathing in extremely easily and it essentially comes naturally to me, however breathing out I haven't gotten it once? Is there a reason for this, and am I alone or this or are there more people who experience(d) this?
Tomazacre vs Codfish. The aliens go crazy
I missed Mitch Grassi in this list.
I'm pretty sure that it was the French Canadian version of the voice.
French French version
@@djaanar5576 thanks I stand corrected I was undecided between the two and picked the wrong one 😅
@@Thevicar045 NP, I don't think most non French speakers are able to hear the difference to be honest
I remember the first time I hear Eivør Pálsdóttir: Tròdlabùndin (Trøllabundin) ( th-cam.com/video/wsl-KHGe4Kk/w-d-xo.html ) Not only me, but my dogs too had these strange alien sensation, in the part with the "beatbox/inalation" ( maybe). Certainly a different sound!
I second this! I think its throat singing!
can you react to Mariah"s "if its over" live at the Grammys?
^^^
If you like yodel try Hocus Pocas 70s very wacky
Please react to Waali - Hard Control
I annoyed the crap out of my kid for months trying to learn what Avi was doing. I'd start the pedal note and he'd yell MOM!!! CUT IT OUT!!!
Geoff can sing polyphonics as well.
Could you please react to Maneskin? So many great songs!
I think you mean "extra terrestrial"... hahahah
day 19 asking pls react to "Stairway to Heaven" cover by First to Eleven, Halocene, Lauren Babic and Violet Orlandi
Piet Arion has a whistle note higher than Dimash & as high as Maria.
You need to listen to Mike Patton, the most versatile voice in rock (or any genre, really)! There are several compilations, here's one of them: th-cam.com/video/2VVHwUYN2co/w-d-xo.html
3:43 but better. You didn’t say that. But we do know right. 😜 She’s really good but Dimash just defy reality. Doesn’t he?
I subscribed! Please react to Kids Cover 46 and 2 by Tool / O'Keefe Music Foundation , when you get a chance. Amazing young musicians, and vocals.
Wow I am intrigued by that suggestion. I will check it out. Thanks for subscribing!