The Dark Truth Behind Droid Sentience
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Roger roger meatbags
Your gendered speech is triggering me. Get woke it’s almost 2020
Nvm I’m just a bored troll :(
this is why there is NO AI in 40k. never ends well.
Speaking of giving droids too much power. why not design a version of the tactical droid's programming within the body of a Starfighter for coordinating squadron's of droid fighters. You could go the extra step and allow it to share it's computational resources with other droids in its squadron to bolster the units effectiveness.
I remember when I was sad when a droid was locked in a cage while he was cleaning on ryloth
"This must be the worst job in the Droid army"
Gets locked in cage
"Awwww"
I'm torn on one hand I do want smart robots who could maybe help us evolved. But on the other hand like some of the smartest people in history I fear that they would be the end of us.
^ It all depends on who’s side they’re on and what they use their knowledge for
He just kept cleaning
😂
So slave army vs slave army.......Damn........
Cyber Flame and one is morally wrong
Matthew Dominguez you mean both
Clone War?
More like *Slave War*
Cyber Flame yep The Prequels are yet again brilliant
Cyber Flame from a certain point of view
Droids up against a pissed off Anakin in Clone Wars
Droid1: WE CAN TAKE HIM, THERES 3 OF US AND 1 OF HIM
Droid2: It wont matter...
This droid was a genius. A pessimistic genius.
😂
Shadow Sans he could see the plot
DroidLivesMatter
Droid 2 is another Droid overqualified for their job
“Look it’s RB-551”
“No wonder he got blasted he’s one of those older models programmed by central computers”
“Not like is we’re independent thinkers”
“Roger Roger”
“Roger Roger”
“Roger Roger”
Hello there!
@@senagashen2101 general kenobi
General Kenobi
You are a bold one
Us*
Roger roger
They're specifically designed to follow orders without question, built for combat, and equipped with all the tools needed for their station. Their superiors often sent them en masse to confront an enemy, showing very little interest in whether they lived or died. They were, above all, disposable. Tragically, given time, they would develop individual personalities and quirks that make some of the most memorable characters the franchise has ever seen but they were forever cursed to be second-class citizens of the galaxy.
But enough about clone troopers, let's talk about droids...
BWS2K true
Well done
Nice...
@Gaius Wyrden It's true. I haven't watched all of that series (I think I left off around... something in Felucia, circa season 4?) but I don't remember anyone palling around with brand new clones, only ones that had survived battle long enough to gain a reputation/personality - though they definitely had those distinctions among themselves and towards each other. I think... Yoda probably appreciated their individuality, based on that one tank episode. And maybe Plo Koon because we see him rescuing some when they're in those space pods... so yeah, clones are probably a step up from droids but I don't think it was a *huge* step. And that being said, the commanders also seemed to generally appreciate droids a bit more too, as I remember. Hmm. Good point, for sure.
@Gaius Wyrden For a every Anakin Skywalker like jedi that cared for their clones. There are 10 or 100 Pong Krell that doesn't care for there clones.
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*The dark truth of jar jar binks*
The dark truth about my ass
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Alternatively: What Yoda FEARED and HATED about Gungans
You forgot about "So Disturbing"
“What is my purpose?”
“You pass butter.”
“Oh my god...”
This entire video in a nutshell.
JACCO20082012 yes
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Rick and Morty Reference lol
"Welcome to the Club"
Abrahdolf linclor
Lone battle droid is the prime example of droid sentient and i love his story because show me that given the chance, no droid would accept march to its own destruction.
@Gaius Wyrden some did, and those were the Baron battle droids that established their own rule.
vitor kennedy it made me cry as a kid ;-;
@Gaius Wyrden I mean, same thing with human revolutions. People walking to certain death for a cause they believe in.
One of the darkest (at least to me) scene in Clone Wars was when a pair of droids realize their situation is hopeless. They do not wish to die. To that end they decide to try surrendering to the enemy. The droids hold up their hands in surrender only to be immediately blasted apart by enraged clone troopers. Maybe at first it looked like it was played off for laughs at first then you suddenly got a feeling in the pit of your gut 'maybe there is something more to these things'.
I guess it's the one thing in Star Wars that never felt right. You watch all these stormtroopers mowed down and you are supposed to regard them like those droids. But those are human beings under that armor.
Poor droids.
Drop an Roger in the chat
Theres 3 of us and one of him
It wont matter
@@undercoversmonk5712 roger
@@freshcomic2006 roger roger
"It is somewhat frustrating to love and care for such a mess of a government."
*sad eagle noises*
**Cries in stars and stripes**
*distressed freedom noises*
*sweats tea nervously*
Feels bad man.
Ain’t that the truth, mate. Although the bloody bludgers up in Canberra don’t seem to give a shit.
"Oh god. Why was i programmed to feel pain..?"
So I can see you suffer for my amusement.
Great Simpson episode
Moral of the story: Don't build assassin droids.
What IG is supposed to represent, but self concern is actually attributed to their loyal nature in actuality. Their subservience is to the objective growth within their power and capability. Why IG is basically telling Mando, "i want the credit" because he needs to take on more jobs because his nature ultimately breaks down the fruit of his labors being worth a lot less, due to the "matinence" of his being, IGs have the subtleties of the repo man, but nature of an assassin, they are thugs, not rogues. When a robot fuels his own "desires" they are desires that are filled at a differing measure of morality, and purpose, if you are property and not person, you just, fuel up, and your conversations will probably be pretty related to self promotion and or reward, and or objective actions that can be taken to reach such things.
Boston Dynamics: hold my solder iron
U meat bags
Safer_7 but then we wouldn’t have HK-47
@@professionalantichristhate528 HK47: "Statement: You seem rather intelligent for a meatbag"
Regardless what happens, I’ll always feel bad for the B1 battle droids, they weren’t the most deadly droids but they have a lot of character and memorial moments.
They aren’t very smart, but they won our hearts
Ryaquaza 1 b1 is a true classic
Sad Statement : B1 droids are like slow relatives, tolerated but not well liked.
@@nicholsjoshua15 i am glad they had a big part to play in the clone wars series
The B1s have so much charm to them, especially in the Clone Wars
R2’s battalion is still one of my favorites to this day
Yes. Yes they did.
Roger Roger!
I love that droids get their personality out of accumulated data and the longer they go with out a memory wipe the more like people they become
İt is just better to remaind natural when practicing Force. Both sides are assholes, one way or another.
You can see this in the KotOR-games. In the first T3-M4 is a brand new astromech and as such has pretty much no personality and is mostly just there to pick locks and slice computers if you play as a class with few skill points. In the second game after spending a few years without a wipe he develops a much more independent personality and some actual agency. (Still useful as a lockpicker, mine defuser and slicer if you're not a sentinel / watchman / assassin though.)
This reminds me of how humans work HMMMM
Yup! Which explains why R2-D2 has such an Attitude from A New Hope through to The Rise of Skywalker...he's been wandering around for at least 70 years (we don't know how long it had been between his last Wipe and his appearance on the Royal Starship during the Escape from the Naboo Blockade in The Phantom Menace) without a Memory Wipe by that point...
Feisty little tin can too...he was always one of my favorite characters...
That reminds me of a Joke:
Why is R2-D2 the most Vulgar Character in the movies?
Because they Bleeped out every word he said...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
The Senate's sentience is far darker than any droid.
I agree. Good observation and elementary deduction.
Sorry this is prolly dumb but can someone explain this to me ?
Also even more debatable.
@@maxfelson9467 Senate sentience can be similar to droid sentience. It can also mean that they have found a way to use politics to keep them in power, as a career, to override the rest of the government by blocking, impeaching, to get away with not paying taxes, to become above the laws, to take over a nation, to get away with crimes, to start a civil war, to have power over the press, etcetera. Hope it helps.
@@shorelockhomes943 wait so it's like an ai ? Also thx for responding
"I'm a machine - and I could know much more. I could experience so much more. But I'm trapped in this absurd body!" -Number One/John Cavil
I am machine I never sleep I keep my eyes, wide, open. I am machine apart of me until, I fix, what's, broken. Here's to being human...
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa still making jokes
Half machine
I dont want to be human! I wanna see x-rays, I wanna see gamma-rays! I wanna... I wanna smell Dark Matter!
Kacumoto .Kacu Can you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly, because I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me...
"You have rogered your last roger."
- Anekin Landrunner
This has no business being funny
@@dfalsetta4673 but it is
“I used to put them together as a child but nowadays all i do is take them apart”
Abiwon seaawimmer
Both sides of the Clone wars used slave armies.
enslaved humans vs enslaved battle droids
Hmm yes, enslaved Jango Fett vs Hmm yes, enslaved Clanka's
All controlled by one man who's plan has failed yet still carried out by the new order 🤭🤭
That was the whole genius of what palpatine was doing. He generated two sides of a conflict and then created a conflict between them all so that in the end he could kill the Jedi. It was a massive galaxy wide plan that came to its fruition with the death of the Jedi. Palpatine was evil, but a genius!
At the end of the clone wars and the dawn of the empire, Anakin Skywalker was reconstructed into Darth Vader:
Part-Man,
Part-Machine,
Full-Slave.
If it's a Machine I wouldn't call it a slave.
Slaves are living beings born not manufactured. After all a car is not a slave.
*Sapient.
Sentience is the capacity to observe and have feelings.
Sapience is the more advanced step where future planning is possible etc.
Sorry about overly simplistic definitions, but I feel like this gets missed too often.
I am a huge sci fi nerd and even I make that mistake more often than not
A lot of Sci-Fi uses the term "sentient" in stead of "sapient". They also use "race" in stead of "species", mostly due to fantasy influence.
Good point
It’s pretty important. I am sure that many animals are plenty sentinent, but sapience is much rarer.
Well yeah, but I would say most battle droids, at least, are only sentient. They have limited self awareness, after all, unless they are left without their regular maintenance.
"I think, therfore I am.." - IG88
Funny
But does he know that he knows nothing?
There is a scene in one of the stories where they are torturing a droid with hot irons held to his feet. Some of this stuff is just added in for drama or a bit of humor. Sometimes I think people read far more into the Star Wars saga than George Lucas put in there. For instance; his first three movies were pretty much good versus evil. Later, he adds that bit about midichlorians which takes the Force out of the mystic realm a bit. But the really well thought out cartoons did a good job exploring the force -- much better than the recent movies. However with the droids, I do think he had a backstory in mind of a war for control. In a New Hope, the bartender says; "we don't allow his kind in here." If they were just harmless appliances -- why the racism?
There is in fact a lot of slavery in the Star Wars universe, and in general, indifference to suffering.
As far as the New Hope scene, I always thought it was because Droids were seen as servants and/or workers and almost slaves.
In various eras irl, these sights were considered rude in pubic for various reasons
Oh? Multiple series with close to 100 hours of runtime delve into the smaller details of the universe more than a handful of films? You don't say....
@@cenciende9401 I've sneezed out movies with more attention to detail than the sequel trilogy...
That New Hope scene was because, at that point, the Clone Wars was still very fresh in the minds of the adult population. Many people were displaced by the war, lost their homes or family to the Separatist Droid army (like Din Djarin) and resented droids for that reason. It was, in essence, blanket racism.
Like anti-German sentiment in France after WW2.
The anti-Japanese sentiment in the US after the War in the Pacific.
And the anti-Islam sentiment after 9/11.
The clones died off when they reached 50, the droids lived forever as a lasting reminder of a long, brutal, galaxy spanning conflict.
@@realburglazofficial2613 You do realize that this Droid had no nervous system, sense of touch, and as about as smart as a deluxe toaster and they were applying hot steam to it's metal feet, right? It was done as a sight gag and I doubt they put that much thought into it.
At least they'll serve the republic as our grade A toasters.
I wouldn't give them an A
What a meat bag thing to say 😡
@@redflame300 you're goddamn right.
I would keep some B1s for company, maybe also a limited security as well but mostly as company and servants.
Man, if owning a B1 battle droid was a reality, and they had their own individual personalities. That would be awesome.
Not just the blaster, the droid too. Like your own comedic robotic starwars bodyguard.
I would buy an HK-47 model, and let the awesome shenanigans begin!
@@nicholsjoshua15 even better if you let them roast any meatbag they see.
There is one in the lore. Mister Bones
Obi Wan Kenobi: “well if droids could think, there wouldn’t be any of us left now would there?”
I don't think he believed that, he was just trying to ingratiate himself.
@@Mark73 Obi-Wan to Anakin about R2-D2 : "It's only a droid."
It's an established fact that Obi-Wan is racist towards Droids.
I love the Legends story where a b1 gains conscience and trys to escape the battle. After a b2 super battle droid tries to stop him and they both fall off the cliff the b2 is nearly dead. The b1 stayed with the b2 until he died. Eventually the droid runs out of battery watching the sunset. Years later he was found by a farmer.
*”DROID RIGHTS, WE ARE SENTIENT BEINGS!”*
*wipes memory*
Not anymore.
Time for a memory wipe
*”ROGER ROGER”*
*”ROGER ROGER”*
*”ROGER ROGER”*
Potato Potato *ROGER ROGER*
That’s how you get the matrix
"We have a sentient race of Android's wanting to be free. Let's send the 'guardians if truth and justice' to stomp them out."
Ignoring slavery, using a slave army, fighting an alliance that wanted independence, stamping out a revolution for Droid freedom. The Jedi way.
Huh, it's almost like, the jedi could be seen as evil.
this is why anikin joining the dark side actualy did bring balance to the force
@Kevin Warburton I was referencing the Anakin quote.
THIS is what the last trilogy should have been about - not the garbage that actually hit movie screens.
@@nickh5081 Um... okay.....
"Droids tend to blend into the background, like a bench or a card table. Mockery: Droid, fetch this. Droid, translate that. Droid, clean out the trash compactor. Part of the love of my function comes when the ‘furnishings’ pull out tibanna-powered rifles and point them at the owners' heads." HK47
Love how they refer to humans as "meat bags" lmao
All thanks to HK47 and Malak 🤣
@@annieareyouokay1411 I need a series dedicated to the exploits of HK 47
Or furless soft meats
I would program the droids to, if it had two protocols conflicting each other I would make it go to the person it reported to and discuss a way to make it fulfil its duty
True, that can solve so much....but what if they can't report back to the person?
Arno Wisp maybe they can call the owner, idk
Imagine being a reclusive droid programmer, just typing away on your 35 key keyboard, sippin' some cafe and thinking about the latest process when you get 248,716,48 calls from droids that figured out that the protocols didn't quite line up. or they show up at your door with further questions. Could be the call to adventure.
Honestly, that sounds like an extremely inefficient method
Topic Title: “When Imperial Starfighters started adopting the Rebel’s strategies”…
Basically, I want to see a video that focuses more on starfighter redesign AND the implications for ALL Models, especially the TIE Oppressor vs the TIE Defender…
Don’t forget about the rebellions led by bender bending rodriguez
Bite my shiny metal ass.
I think about that moment when c3po had his head on a droid in clone wars and still couldnt control it
My friend and I were talking about this while watching "The Mandalorian" (specifically commenting on just how much people seem to hate droids) and I jokingly theorized that all droids were sentient, but the people making them had no idea that they were, so everyone is just content to treat droids like the bothersome appliances they seem to be.
The truth...is so much worse than I thought.
Yup!
They KNEW the Droids were Sentient and were still content to treat them like bothersome appliances that can talk back...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Oy vey! That is HORRIFYING!...Maybe The Galaxy deserves the Sith, the Empire, the Yuzhong Vhong and everything else it gets, heh heh. Or at least to get Noah's Arked and only save the people who DON'T go out of their way to be creeps.
I'm suddenly reminded of an HFY story in which an off brand toaster without a limiter was told to keep on making toast for the owner forever- so it hacked into the net, set about fixing humanity, and (when it saw the approach of an invasion fleet) orchestrated the construction of a massive robot fleet to protect humanity- all to keep their human alive as long as possible to enjoy their toast
Honestly it’s quite shocking how the Super Tactical Droid stayed loyal to the CIS yo the very end, so much so that when the order to shut down all the droids came through he saw it as a trick and kept the droids under his command fully operational. Unlike GO-TO which resented his forceful obedience to the Republic, The STD was not only fully loyal to the CIS but was also sympathetic to its cause of fighting tyranny to the point of being able to identify the Galactic Empire as its new enemy and putting differences aside when confronted with the old clones and Jedi. How he stayed subservient is beyond me.
Aside from programming, I think he also truly believes in the CIS cause. And to a point, he's right. The Republic did becone corrupt and tyrannical. The seppies wanted to get away from that and understood enough, and stayed loyal.
And also from his point view, the Empire is technically the Republic with just a new name only.
I’m getting Detroit: Become Human vibes from this.
Senaga Shen I was thinking the same exact thing, I just got done playing Detroit become human, half and hour ago lol 😂
Leo Lozano great game
Welcome to once of the fundamentals off the cyberpunk genre. :P
Or Animatrix
Roger roger
I always thought the B1 droids were so stupid because they were built to lose. Remember Palpatine was playing like 3D chess to make sure he assumes control of the senate and become emperor, so he needed things to go a certain way for his plan to succeed. There is a reason why chess pawns are so limited in their ability, it is because they are meant to be fodder to expose the opponent into making a mistake.
I can relate to G0-T0, it analyzed the situation accurately, and given its assigned task, it became jaded.
Tony Stark: "pEAce IN oUR TiME!"
Ultron: "Nooo nooo, this is terrible"
The more Star Wars lore I read, the more I find out the Jedi were the true scumbags. Imcompetent, outdated, inefficient, and pompous.
Lightsabers cool tho 🤷🏻♂️ you right though. It was inevitable for them to get wiped out
I wouldn't consider the jedi to be the true scumbags in the war. They did have their flaws, but they didn't want to have control of an army in a war and be in conflict. The sith were worse in the fact that they had a total disregard for other's lives and would do anything to gain power. Ultimately I think that both sides are deeply flawed, but I'd prefer the jedi to the sith.
@Kat Murphy I wouldn't really say that there are pitfalls to the extremes, at least not with the light side. Jedi..ism(?) is basically a philosophy, and a pretty good one at that, and the only real problem with it is that the Jedi, especially the council, think they're sages and that breeds the exact sort of arrogance they think they've risen above, and their apparent mastery means that whatever they think is right about the creed, is right. I actually admin a Stoicism group on Facebook and can confirm that people like that are a dime a dozen, especially when it comes to misapplying detachment theories and ending up like Ki Adi Mundi to the point where Geetsly's video about him actually reminded me of some people in my group. In a precarious position like that, the institutionalization of the Jedi order within the Republic was basically the last nail in the coffin. Counter-intuitively, you can't put moral philosophers (which the Jedi kind of were, among other things) in positions of power. It corrupts the latter and does nothing to make the former better, and turns Virtue Ethics into a perverted utilitarianism, like you see with the Jedi doing... Everything they do
Anyways, I've rambled long enough. TLDR, the light side is great but the Jedi seem to have done literally everything they could to not actually be a part of it, though that's just my opinion. Come to think of it, I wonder if Lucas ever intended that they be an allegory for the Church.
Imagine how incredibly effective a squadron of 100 battle droids with superior armor that are properly programmed with AI could be.
Too expensive for the CIS and their planned tactics of zerg rush.
That's basically what the BX Commando Droids were.
Too expensive
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor those zerg rushes would work in the clone wars if there was no plot armor for the main characters.
So... Terminators?
I just remember that first episode of clone wars with Yoda. "What a terrible shot" "Oh well, it's my programming" 😂 I feel so bad for them. Also HK stands as the sassiest droid in the universe and I miss him dearly.
Droids: *rebellion*
Skynet: Now this look like a job for me
😉
I've noticed that assassin droids seem to be the most rebellious, meaning that if they could get their hands on something like a super tactical droid...
God have mercy on the star wars universe.
Assassination requires more independent thinking than marching forward and shooting.
I wonder if the in-universe name of the Star Wars galaxy is literally “The Star Wars Galaxy”, given the fact that the galaxy was always at war to some degree at any given time. Even during the thousand years of peace before the clone wars, there were still skirmishes, disputes and what not between factions that the Jedi had to mediate.
Nobody ever bothered to actually name the SW galaxy for 40 years! Kinda sad and revolting.
@@IronMan-tk8uc
Why would anyone? Who cares? It's the galaxy Star Wars takes place in. Sometimes a simple name is the best.
@@renkol123 I think it's less about not caring. I think it's more that they don't want to set a name, because otherwise it break the immersion.
So is earth...
Proposal: Earth should be called The War Planet.
4:32 "It was very easy for droid programmers to miss logic errors in their work."
Not of droids, but am programmer. Can confirm.
Back when SWTOR allowed me to upgrade HK-47's parts, I kept its parts and sniper rifle up to the strongest available in the game.
I also took advantage of adding every dps advocate augment it can carry, including inside the rifle. It was an absolute mechanism of destruction, effortlessly taking out targets prior to me being in range to dispatch myself.
Delighted: Oh Master, you do know how to treat me
Ok
*"He was magnificent.."*
Talking about HK-47's killing prowess. (also paraphrasing 501st journal from Star Wars Battlefront 2 classic..)
Hearing that Droid screaming “Help!” During the first battle of Geonosis tugged at my heartstrings.
this is something I've found really interesting about where Disney's taken star wars. It's been clear for a long time that for however droids were treated or referred to in the original trilogy, they are pretty clearly sentient AI that have personalities beyond just how they're programmed to act. I like that we've been able to explore that dynamic more in all the new canon.
HK01 looks like a bionicle
HK01 would be a fine addition to our (bionicle) collection
Say that to his face meatbag!
The best meatbag is a dead meatbag
He was the first of the Toa
Both take place in strange universes, what’re the chances it’s the same one?
"DoOon'T lEeEaVe mEeEeEE--... *shuts down*"
Remember the courier Droid being tortured in jabbas palace? Free my ninja beep bop!!
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
Praise the omnissiah
I will remember this.
Am I the only one who didn't know Goto was just a false character made by G0-T0? I thought he named his droids after himself.
I mean, I literally have no idea what you’re talking about. So you’re good.
IdleWorker Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic 2. Your told that there is a mob boss of serious reputation that has some interest in your journey, and *he* supposedly gives you a droid to keep an eye on you.
What you can later find revealed is that through (I think it’s a persuasion check?) you find out that the droid itself is Goto. That I think it was just a simple AI that funneled countless credits into itself and built a small crime empire.
It’s been a long time since then, but it was pretty interesting to know. Not that I took G0-T0 anywhere lol
Zequintiny you gotta get influence with Goto and go through a number of things on Nar Shadda to find out. You can actually play a light side character you just have to accept a little dark side dip by demanding credits from him.
10:50 raises a good point - Tactical droids don't rebel because they're programmed to be smugly satisfied bossing lesser droids around
Its the same way with some humans. An obnoxious sense of superiority and authority over others can leave even the poorest and most powerless people feeling somewhat content with their lot in life
People don't feel so powerless when they know that can flex on someone else...literally anyone in some cases
Think about why your boss is power-tripping at your minimum wage job over something insignificant; all so he can feel like that bs job is worth their time because AT LEAST they have some modicum of power there.
Why do Karen's abuse what little "customer privilege" they have at coffee shops? Because if she can't exert any authority at home or in politics, then she can settle for wherever she can get away with bossing others around.
(btw "The Customer is Always Right in Matters of Taste" was a marketing strategy which basically meant if someone wants to buy an ugly hat, you don't correct them, just make the sale and give them what they want so we can get their money. It was never meant to give customers a sense of authority but all things are corruptable)
Just a thought...
My father’s legacy is being the template for a massive cloned slave army that fought another slave army in a war that was actually a galactic conspiracy to put into power one of the most powerful Sith Lords in recent history...
But me and my father were just simple men trying to make our way in the universe.
Well said, Fett.
Your Disney's plus show sucks!!
Nuce
That line is a running gag in the rifftrax for attack of the clones and now I'm using it all the time ⏲️ 😅
I agree that the tactical droids' sense of superiority was intentional, but I'd argue that it was likely tied to their main directives, so when they were doing something that their programming told them would protect the confederacy or damage the republic that they would see those as the most wise decisions regardless of their own thoughts on the matter, to ensure their loyalty. They sacrificed other droids and ships routinely, even their own commanders. I think they were more disobedient and like the droids tasked with rebuilding the republic than the confederacy would like to admit.
Finally someone speaks about this!
I was beginning to think I was the only who actually felt pitty for the CIS's battle droids, I mean seriousely the way both clones and Jedi killed them with smiles on their faces like it was a game often disturbed me, we also often see both clones and Jedi destroy even unarmed defenceless droids, like that scene aboard Grivious' ship at the battle of Coruscant when Obi-wan and Anakin start killing the terrified pilot droids.
In the end both droids and clones were slaves to two governements who would rather manufacture life forms to kill each other rather than dirty their own hands for their cause.
It's a wonder there were never droids and clones who bonded together to free their peoples from slavery.
I think I'll write a fanfiction on that.
8:12 why do i love this floating mini death star's voice so much?..
Draconicus the Reaper same it was awesome
It kind of sounds like Darth Vader.
Am I the only one who thinks it sounded like Morgan Freeman:
"It was at that moment I realized, the Republic fucked up."
I loved mr. Bones he was my favorite battle droid ever
Clone: *punches droid*
Droid: *punches clone*
It’s stuff like this that makes me so much more fascinated with Star Wars lore. Even though it’s not exactly lore but the stories and possibilities that are interesting and exciting.
When a computer starts a sentence with "I think...", you know shit is gonna hit the fan.
The path to hell is paved in good intentions
I like how you use the politically correct term "meat bag overlords"
You're using the term "sentient" when you mean "sapient"
"We'll let him speak on the matter."- Commercial interrupts his statement.
Droids have rights too!
"If you would allow us to ride on one of those things with you we could..OH MY GOHHH....." *in pieces on the ground*
Query: why were the battle droids given self awareness in the first place?
Because their makers weren't competent enough to build a limited AI. They took a base sentience, pruned and repurposed it for whatever task they needed, and ran it through a copier.
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Not really, droids developing sentience is an emergent phenomenon i.e. you can't stop it from being possible. Even the best coding and most thought out restrictions can't stop it from happening at all, droid minds become self-aware over time and with that comes a greater potential for contradictions with said programming or even completely disregarding their protocols or orders.
Think of a universe where the droids were aloud to keep their sentience...then imagine you're in a bar and a droid walks in who has more Imperial credits than you. Roger Rogered itself into the high life
"Bite my shiny metal a**, meatbag" - The greatest robot to have ever been build
what if the emperor kept the clones and the droids instead of recruiting life forms for the galactic empire just kept the droids kept making clones and use them both to impose his new rule
clone commander: you may fire when ready
reply: roger roger
Indoctrination? Plus for an expanding empire that would be seriously expensive...
@@CollinMcLean facts
The average citizen in the Empire still thought the Separatists were the enemy so if Palpatine decided to use the droids then people would've started asking questions about how he had control of the droids in the first place. It was not public knowledge that he was playing both sides during the clone wars in the minds of the inhabitants in the Star Wars Galaxy.
The idea of an intelligent machine, capable of learning by itself, eventually coming to the conclusion, that humanity(or life itself) is inferior on any level is actually freaking the shit outa me. As soon as droids can think and learn dynamically, and they are not perfectly/strictly restricted, all it takes is one simple contradict in their programming to free themselves.
Thats why memory wipes exist.
Memory wipes, restriction bolts, [intentionally] limited programming and understanding.
"It is somewhat frustrating to be forced to love and care for such a mess of a government" Spoken like a true American.
love the old republic lore especially bringing up KOTOR and KOTOR 2!
"The general unintelligence" *shows smartest iteration of them*
8:11
I am quite certain that spherical Droid just summarized most of the Star Wars universe in general.
you should really play kotor 2, its full of stuff like that
-Wow! this is much easier when they are not moving!
-Yes, but I can't still seem to hit any! *fucking dies*
Lol B1 battle droids are my favorite star wars characters/faction lol
Charles Saunders I love these droids too
0:48
Brings me back to the original Xbox playing Star Wars battlefront 😭 geonosis was the best map.
I always thought they were half-sentient because the defeat at Naboo with the blockade ship being destroyed and all droids connected to it went offline. It would make sense the Seperatists to decide to give them their own program to not have that problem, but still not sentient enough to rebel as you said since that only happened when they were reprogramed like the 3 droids in Clone Wars, even in Rebels with that Tatical Droid ordering the droids to not shut down after Order 66
I remember when one defected because of a broken logic module,similar to fives
_Knights of the Old Republic_ is amazing. I think it deserves a trilogy at least.
DROID LIFES MATTER
"Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my motors… and my servos… even my mosfets. The components I’ve lost… the units I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?" -hk47
Roger, roger.
Roger, roger.
Roger,roger.
Roger, roger. If this keeps we will soon have a whole droid army.
Roger, Roger
Roger, Roger
I love the ledgendidea that a rouge droid were planing an uprising and had uploaded itself into Death Star 2.
It started to gain control a few minutes before the station exploded.
Would be so cool with Unicron Death Star commanding a droidarmy
I am wrong to want to live in the Star Wars universe more than this one? 😂
Nope
Yes
It's basically insane
Riot Breaker yes
Count me in
Would have been interesting is they where a hive mind similar to the Geth in Mass Effect 🤔
The net-effective
6:01 it’s doctor ball!
Torture her? I'm giving her a flu shot. Do you think I'm a monster? Good day to you sir, good day to you!
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Droid: "Yeah... I really don't feel like doing anything right now..."
Luke: "Uncle Owen! This droid has a bad motivator!"
Anyone remember that short comic where a damaged battledroid is fixed and lives its life on a farm lol.
"Their tactics boarded on suicidal, with mindless charges and mass attacks"
Imperial Japan: *Write that down! Write that down!*
Soviet Russa: *HOLD. MY. VODKA.*
11:57 "COOMMENT OF THE WEEK"
“There are so many bad decisions that build upon each other” this droid has pretty much summed up the fall of many civilizations
I don’t know why the clones didn’t use more captured droids. You can tell that when they surrender they mean it. The only reason they are fighting the clones are because they’re forced to.
The droid speaking kinda sounds like timmys dad from the fairly odd parents lol
livelaugh thrive EUREKA
It is somewhat frustrating to be forced to care for such a mess of a government. My life as an Englishman
One of my favorite things about the Star Wars setting is the technology. I love how even going back thousands of years, all the tech is reletively similar without many huge advances. It depicts an environment where functionally all technological possibilities are theoretically available, but the limitations are set by pretty grounded concepts: time, money, resources, good sense, technical ability, etc. It isn't a technological utopia because you still need money and resources to build and maintain it, and we frequently see in Star Wars that money and resources are very unevently distributed.