@Generation Tech, an episode and or series idea, average life span of the "expendable" soldier after enlisting or drafted. G.E. and F.O. Stormtroopers, Rebel factions, maybe even clones from the time they are of age for live fire exercises, etc...
This dialogue from Atton Rand (KOTOR 2) is excellent: Exile: "The idea of you fighting Jedi is riddiculous" Atton: "Yeah, it sure is. And that's why I was so good at it. And that's why I wasn't fighting Jedi. I was killing them. People say killing Jedi is hard. It's not, you just have to be smart about it. No blaster, no getting close to them, no attacking them directly when you can gun down their allies instead. There's ways of gassing them, drugging them, making them lose control, torturing them. I was really good at it. What's worse is that killing them isn't the best thing. Making them fall... making them see our side of it, that was the best." Exile: "That's little hard to believe" Atton: "Yeah, maybe you'll believe this - that's when fighting a Jedi, you wound the Padawan first, then let the rest take care of itself. Not only will the master move to protect the student but the Force bond between the two will mess up the master's head better than any stab wound. Anything else? That's only a sample of my arsenal." Exile: "Tell me. I need to know how to protect myself, and others around me." Atton: "If there's no whiny little Padawan, start shooting innocents - not to kill, just enough so that they're gonna die unless the Jedi does something to save them. And if their Jedi is stupid enough to use their Makashi lightsaber form against you, start shooting as fast as you can and drop them while they're exposed. Set mines, set a lot of them. Fire gas grenades, but make sure they have magnetic lock targetters so Jedi can't Force Push them back." Exile: "How could you have killed Jedi?" Atton: "I taught myself... techniques. It's hard for Jedi to sense what you're really thinking if you throw up walls of strong emotions and feelings. Lust, impatience, cowardice... most Jedi awareness doesn't cruise beyond the surface feelings to see what's deeper."
No force user is invincible. but the really skilled and powerful ones will take the best plans, best equipment, and top skills to defeat, regardless of how many cheapshots you set up. Not that it's impossible or even close, but the best of the best aren't easy to bring down, force user or not.
In theory they should be able to use force push to block traditional projectiles. As long as they have enough time and distance to react to the threat. But if you set up a few belt fed machine guns and ambushed the Jedi you could easily overwhelm them.
@@justindunlap1235 or have so much buckshot fired at them while a sonic weapon blast there eardrum's to oblivion that they can't focus enough for it to work
"Jedi at Geonosis showed all the tactical awareness of Russian Batalion Group." That made my day... Also, the last one choice made me remember Imperial Agent talking down Darth Jadus in SWTOR. Masterwork.
One great anti-Jedi/Sith weapon is the FC-1 Flechette Launcher. You might remember it as the four-barreled, rectangular shotgun from Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast. It's canon again, thanks to a book. The metal spikes it fires can't be effectively blocked by lightsabers, and the secondary fire is a pair of explosive rounds for AOE damage. It's one of the few weapons I'd dare to get close to a saber-wielder with, because at that range, armor or personal shields won't save them. And at longer range, it can hit a lot of targets at once. A Jedi/Sith used to reflecting blaster bolts is as good as dead; they have to use the Force to divert the flechettes. And with multiple flechette hails fired in quick succession, only the most well-trained Force users could hope to stop them all.
At less than 1% of 1% of 1% of the populace as Force-sensitives in the Galaxy, that is still in the tens of billions. For the Jedi, who had roughly 100,000 at most (pre-Order 66), it would be
Not all force sensitive people are trained jedi though many are undetected until they become to old to be trained or are part of difrent cults (like the nightsister) but still not quite as much as stated in the video I belive one per averagly populated planet is a good gues. So maybe 1 in 10 billion or something close to that.
One thing that tends to be forgotten in the whole superpower talk is that Jedi and Sith are often baseline humans, or near-human aliens, meaning that they are vulnerable in body, and in mind. If you manage to affect the body beyond the ability to heal or overcome (paralyzing gas, neurotoxins, electrical shock causing muscle seizure, liquid nitrogen freezing their joints and cracking their armour...), or you manage to actually deeply affect their mind (terror tactics, demoralization, mental exhaustion, overwhelming anger...), they will slip up. Vader is a good example of someone who uses psychological warfare to weaken the enemy before he even arrives, but for the whole package (sickness, low morale, physical and mental exhaustion, heavy use of explosives...), you want to read the comics on the battle of Jabiim, aka mini-Geonosis, a month-long slaughter of Jedi so traumatic that it was arguably a big part of Anakin's gradual fall into darkness in the Legends continuity.
Problem with flamethrowers is that if the force user is skilled enough, they can use telekinesis to block/move the burning liquid. Same for projectile weapons/slug throwers
unless the force user happens to be Vader, Palpatine, Windu, or Yoda they will not have that training using the force to block flamethrowers is all but reserved for Masters. Unless it is one of those four in which case you properly did something to earn their personal attention so your already a dead man/woman walking.
Yeah their extremely enhanced reflexes (which they do have, I have absolutely no idea what GT was saying about them lacking that when it's actually pretty well documented, not to mention precog) and telekinesis means they can easily block several projectiles, or at least redirect them with a force push. At the end of the day, force users are telekinetic and telepathic psychics, some of which can see the future. There is no easy way to defeat one unless everything goes to plan, or you are a powerful trained psychic yourself
didnt know force users had god like neo powers! haha. But yeah that scene in the sequel trilogy where kylo blocks the laser bolt was so mind blowing! 100% this is a good point and something to consider
In a Star Wars rpg I played an engineer who modified a sonic pistol to resonate on the same frequency as the focusing lenses in lghtsabers. I had a GM who loved lateral thinking so he was happy to okay the design based on a simple scientific principle and boom, one well targeted shot with it and the Sabercracker (tm) would crack the lens in a lightsaber, rendering it useless until repaired.
Another tactic I would like to add is star fighters. While the Skywalkers were excellent pilots (its literally in their name "sky walker") I don't believe the other jedi were as adept at flying star fighters and I think that flight takes jedi out of their element and puts them on a more even playing field. For example, Plo Koon was a skilled jedi master even capable of creating his own lightning that was killed by two unamed clone pilot teams in a dogfight where he was not able to use most of his powers.
I'd hardly call Plo Koon's death a dogfight. HIs wingmen decelerate slightly behind him and shoot his unshielded ship with no opportunity to take evasive action.
Yeah, Jedi are pretty good with star fighters as well, they have a advantage but you would likely have a better chance against them in a dog fight than on the ground, but if they are a jedi that specializes in Starfighter combat, then your best bet is to run or I guess fly away.
to be fair to Plo Koon, I don't think he expected his long time allies to suddenly get an order from the supreme chancellor who turned out to be a sith lord to kill all the jedi
@@Christian-be6eg”Lord Vader, as your legal consul I would highly recommend you to secure the funds for what you owe for your children’s child support. While your son’s payment is easy, it is not so for your daughter.
I always thought it would be smart and super cool to have a cortosis guard on a lightsaber. It's kind of an underhanded tactic, so maybe the jedi wouldn't approve, but it seems like it would be an effective way of winning a saber duel.
I've always thought the same thing. That and a momentary off switch so you could just avoid your opponents blocks By turning off the blade for a fraction of a second.
In what refers the canon lightsabers have some kind of "heavy" that means they deal strength when hitting, also cortosis is fragile in any iteration, so the most probably outcome would be a 1 time trick cause the guard would likely break at the first strike
@@foxhound963 Pre-Luke, maybe. Though I doubt it would be enough to do the trick. For example: if you squirt your phone with water, nothing happens. If you drop your phone in water, then you wreck it. But yes, durring the Republic, only Kit Fisto had re-worked his lightsaber to work underwater.
@@foxhound963 Obi-wan's lightsaber worked in the rain (without shorting out) when he was going up against Jango Fett in Attack of the Clones. Please correct me if I'm wrong which movie it was, but I distinctly remember that scene.
Saw a few other comments, but yep shotgun is the first thing that comes to mind. Second being stunblasts which iirc from various expanded universe stories were not capable of being parried. After that would be sonic weapons, explosives, fire, etc.
Would having a droid bodyguard that can fight force users be an option? Droidekas, magnaguards, BX commando, HKB-3, EG-05, JK-13, and Ultra battle droids seem to be effective. Is there any chance I can talk you into doing a video of the best droids to use against force users?
Does a general grievous count as a droid:). I would say it's at least somewhat proof of concept. Exactly how easy that concept is to replicate or produce en mass is a different question
Best solution for Vader, stay half a galaxy away and don't draw attention to yourself. Either that or be more valuable alive and functioning properly. Not just alive, with Vader, there are many ways one could be alive, yet not really wish to remain so.
If Armys can not, If Apex Predators can not, If bounty hunters cannot, And Even Sith Cannot. No One fights Darth Vader. One runs for there life from Drath Vader.
Watch out on magnetic bullets, they get caught in the lightsabers magnetic field, used to keep the lightsaber blade in place. Classic chemical propulsion of cortosis or other lightsaber resistant Material bullets is the way to go here. If you have it a crossbow or a sling, using the upper conditions with the bolt fullfilling the upper conditions should work as well, if a little slower. don´t bother with fancy tech like explosive bullets or EMP. A hardcore shell with the core made from lightsaber resistant materials should work, too. But we´re slowly entering tank shell territory. And a tank should be able to wipe away a jedis smug smile anyway. The Verpines may have beautiful and effective slugthrowers, but those normally need to contain some magnetic materials in order to work properly.
@@bazilisek502 Or the other way round: if the magnetic field is strong enough, it´ll matter a lot. since the Kyber crystals are working as energy amplificators, to a shear endless degree, I fear that the deflection capabilities of the saber are very much dependant on the rest-components in a lightsaber (such as cables, the energy cells input, etc.). But I´ll somewhat agree, at least the bolt will not come back to haunt you, even if it´s magnetic. the worst that will probably happen to the projectile is getting absorbed into the blade, giving the jedi a little dirt on it´s lightsaber after the battle.
Yeah, thanks to the Yuuzhan Vong, I’ve got an Extended Family of Furrets( _Pokémon_ )/Ferrets with Ysalamir laced into their genome & such… Question: what happens if the ‘Jedi/Sith’ in question has a Force-Imbued metal sword? How well would that work out?
Pretty well actually. There's more than just the Jedi and Sith out there. They're just the two biggest and well known Force Orders. There's plenty of wild Force Adepts and smaller orders out there and they're known to imbue more mundane weapons with The Force over time to tune themselves to the weapon. It won't deflect blaster rounds like a lightsaber but those weapons somehow seem to be capable of more then before...
@@nickvinsable3798 Theoretically yes. In practice there's all manner of other factors to consider but at its very core of 'could I fend off a Jedi/Sith with a force imbued weapon. Yes. Vibroblades have been used since the days of the Old Republic and can easily parry lightsabers due to how they work which vibrates the blade to a frequency that matches energy production. Now that blade is still going to take durability damage and need to be replaced but it can hold its own for a bit. Force imbued weapons work somewhat the same way. It's all the other factors you include that really make it a solid yes/no.
If you’re referring to _Knights of the Old Republic_ , @@graveyardshift6691, its been mentioned that such blades, the in-game blades, had cortosis in them. Just clarifying something…
Misleading Statement: Anything you have heard in that vein is merely slander and speculation, Master. I would never concoct twenty-eight different ways to kill your friends... Additional Aside: That is an offensively low number.
In legends, and I think it may still exist in Canon, there were flechete launchers, which were basically man portable munitions launchers whose rounds would split up into a cloud of razor sharp darts, blades, etc. Jedi had a real hard time avoiding a cloud of razor blades launched at point blank range
Thank you for being one of the few SW fans with a brain. Most others just rant some nonsense about how "technological terror" is insignificant next to the Force.
7:19 I'm pretty sure Ahsoka did block multiple stun bolts with her lightsaber, in that arc where she was a fugitive and the shocktroopers were chasing her using LAAT/le gunships.
I mostly used the scatter pistol, but functionally the bolt-group was considered as a single bolt for sabre-blocking so it's main feature was irrelevant
The odd thing about it is that Jedi/Sith would do better not fighting as well. They would be much better scouts, info gatherers and saboteurs than fighters. Let the hordes of robots do the fighting. You'll lose a bunch, but hey, build more.
@@cedriceric9730 B-1s only cost 1,800 credits per unit, B-2s 3,300, Droidekkas 21,000. Now comapre it to the Clones who had armor worth 4,000, a rifle worth 1,000, and a backup pistol worth 500 which is not including the price of food and training. Thats also not counting the variants of droids like Magno Guards, and Assasin Droids, Crab Droids and so on same goes the Clones and their vehicles but on average droids were far cheaper.
@@dragonace119 Yeah but the clones were the best of the best, in most other galactic millitary units the clones probably would have been special forces. You'd be better off comparing driods to stormtroopers, who were still far more effective
@@imisioluwalawal2945 Yeah and that's the issue, they made an army of spec ops, would be amazing if facing against an organic opponent who would have to worry about similar problems you have to. Against mostly droids who can just simply have a chip installed to learn things and not worry about training or replacing losses and your in a losing situation specially when its a long term war since the costs and losses add up. A droid army would still be far more effective than stormtroopers mainly due to droids not needing training and moral not being an issue. Add in the corps were swimming in money, money isn't an issue so might as well just make stronger droids and shit them out.
In Star Wars: Dark Forces 2 (if I recall), there were three weapons I'd use to usurp the defenses of Force-users and they basically resembled a shotgun, a grenade launcher, and a sniper rifle. The shotgun was the flechette cannon. The grenade launcher was a radioactive glob launcher on the underside of the Imperial heavy blaster. And the sniper rifle was a type of super-blaster. The glob launcher was my top fave followed closely by the flechette cannon. The sniper super-blaster was hard to use effectively because you couldn't move while aiming with the scope. 0:12 Chaotic? But weren't those shenanigans the result of different definitions of "order?" 12:09 Aren't they obsessed with "order," though? Or is that less a Sith thing and more an Empire thing?
Molotov cocktails are a good thing to use the instructions are simple light and throw at the target and they are simple to make and it uses a lot of different fuel types alcohol is common and a works great in the container you buy it in all you need is a piece of cloth that you can get from your clothes
5:32 actually at worst it is a cortosis bullet so it kills the lightsaber when they block it and now they can't easily stop the follow up shot. According to Cad Bane it wears through the barrels faster than conventional ammo so save it for jedi and make your shots count.
@@ben4R Honestly that makes sense for what you are using it for. Lightsaber burns through the outer coating then gets disabled. Just don't let Cad Bane hear you say that, alright?
They’re more neutral. They live for battle which can seem like they are just like Sith, but they value honour above all else which makes them more Jedi. (Not the bounty Hunter versions as they mainly just go for who can pay the most).
Well… that’s a complex question. The only Mandalorian we know of that took fighting along Qel-Droma and Exar Kun as a bad thing was Mandalore the Perserver. But by and Large they mesh better and do better with the Sith. Until you hit imperial era Sith. Palpatine wasn’t a typical Sith Lord, and he sought more than dominance. He sought control over everything. Death Watch Allied with the ‘Dark Side’ during that god awful peaceful Mandalorian Arc, but quickly didn’t like it. So it really depends on era. But mainly they are more Sith oriented than Jedi.
He made a slight mistake. Cortosis isn’t a metal. If you read the book Thrawn Alliances, which is cannon, cortosis is described as a fibrous, plant-like material. It does still short out lightsaber blades and also disperses blaster bolt energy.
I rather stick with words honestly, glad it's on the list. I'm pretty sure hurting or *killing* a Jedi or Sith will do far more bad than good; if you or me managed to take down either than there will be a big red spot on your back for the group you've messed with to get rid of, neither side wants anyone to be able to stop them so openly showing that you can will be a problem for them.
9:17 just going to say, I love this art of Thrawn with his little Ysalimari buddy, especially the one with it cosied up in his hoody... In fact let us all appreciate the image of Thrawn on one of his chill-days, where he wears a hoody
Thrawn was a man of culture, dude loved his art. I can see him being VERY confused by earth art and culture. "I have had my agents scour this world, and they have still yet to find the elusive 'Hello Kitty' I have seen much artwork of."
For using the talk to them method with a sith I think if you could pick any line it would be "I will do and/or say what ever you want if you let me live."
Pickpocketing or tractor beams for sticky fingers, magnets powerful enough to rip your phone through your leg like an MRI machine and emp's which there are droid poppers, flame throwers and if you have a means of detonating the flames to spread it, concussion weapons, shotguns and flak guns (there is a small risk of the leifenfrost effect causing the round to deflect off itself melting but since they don't wear armor, they'd still get a little shrapnel) stopping the force all together is amazing and I love learning more about thrawn's pure tactical prowess. More explosives verging on artillery and anti ship guns, destroying planets and solar systems to get them. Then finally bribery lol
Would a lightsaber be effective against a bowcaster? At least in Legends it was a solid projectile with an ionized plasma sheath. So would the lightsaber deflect the plasma or with the projectile go through the blade?
Anything physical connects with that blade it will immediately start melting. The two magnetic fields however would interact allowing the lightsaber to push aside the object similar to your average sword deflecting an arrow. This is why the vaunted and lauded buckshot is actually useless against a lightsaber. One quick sweep and the entire volley is neutralized having been vaporized by the plasma. So yes. The lightsaber is effective against a bowcaster. Now whether or not an untrained user is going against a skilled bowcaster marksman....
You forgot a few of the best weapons to use. 1) Another Force User, 2) A tactical nuclear launcher a.k.a. a Fat Man launcher, 3) a Naval Particle Cannon. The first has its own issues, the second you have to have some skill in basic math, and the third you need access to a WarShip or DropShip.
6:17 or it will just go through the lightsaber most bullet have to mutch velocity to even have the time to eaht from the blade so it will just go through the blade ending the life of the lightsaber user that didn't manage to stop a supersonic projectil
A weapon you didn't list that is known as being one of the best options for taking out force users is the Verpine Shatter Gun. Which is a handheld magnetic accelerator which fires a tiny pellet at incredible speeds. So fast in fact that it's effectively impossible to even react before you get turned into a fine red mist. Much less block, dodge, or even see it coming. They were also nearly silent and could be used at extreme range with pinpoint accuracy in the hands of a skilled marksman. You could argue that this is a slug thrower but I don't think it qualifies because it's not using any form of chemical propellent like slug throwers do and instead works via completely different principles. The only real downsides to them is that they're rare & expensive.
Actually, Flame throwers CAN be blocked via telekinesis & I'm pretty sure I've seen Windu not only DODGE a guided missile but then redirect it back at its shooter.
That clip near the beginning with someone deflecting all those blaster bolts back at the troopers is so sick, but I don’t recognize it! I can’t believe I’ve forgotten such an awesome scene, does anyone know what it’s from?
@@zombiemaster4525 Honestly, I think having trained Vornskrs as your anti-Jedi/Sith option is worth it, just for the look on Darth Fuckyouuppicus's face when you yell "Fluffy! SICK-EM!!!" And a Vornskr comes bounding at them
A suit of power armor, beskar and such plated. Jet packs inbuilt of coarse. Secondary stun or shotgun weapons mounted for all around coverage. And a... or maybe a pair of... rotary autocanons firing kinetic explosive amunition set to airburst at the targets location based on predicted flight times. Near misses are deadly, blocking is unlikely to work and if it doesn't they can't reflect it. Using the force to grab and stop the rounds also takes a lot of focus and is very hard to redirect them back at you when they'd explode before they could turn them and shoot them back. And if you're own armor can tank the fragmentation from them all the better. Finally a flamethrower or too, and you're golden. Maybe toss in a Ylsimari in a little armored backpack compartment for it to be safe in and really... what's a force user to do?
3:20 Darth Bane on Apatros mines: I wish that were true The Darth Bane books especially the first page of the first book states how Cortosis was so hard to mine that it would take hours just to mine it with hydraulic jacks or blow torches.
#6 is an instant NOPE. That would be like trusting your safety with an adult, territorial *chimpanzee!* 💀 #7 came to just soothe our hearts. Just trying to picture one of those little things just wrapping itself around Thrawn's neck and just chilling... _it earns points for adorableness alone._ I would also like to import some of our own Earth options into the equation. Namely, our inumerable types of machine guns! From the easiest to carry around with you like Uzis, P-90's and even automatic pistols, to the slightly bigger but most potent rifle-like machine guns like the always reliable AK-47. Not to mention, the good ol' minigun. All of these firearms are projectile weapons and they have an insanely fast rate of fire! You can overwhelm a Sith or a Jedi who are blocking with a lightsaber by the sheer ammount of bullets that you're firing per second, and best of all even if they DO block, the bullets will at best just pop, _at worst melt down and splash all over them!_ They're perfect! *Unless the Jedi or Sith in question is in-tune enough with the Force that they just stop the bullets mid-air with the Force, Matrix style. At that point I suggest taking cover before they throw that back at you.*
Probably the most effective way is shooting them in the hand. Most Jedis that died to blaster fire were hit the limbs before taking fatal hits. Jango killed that Dinosaur Jedi guy by shooting him in the hand first followed by 2 quick ones to the chest while he was staggered. Clones were trained explicitly to shoot Jedi in the limbs rather than going for lethal shots. If you can shoot a Jedi in the foot you can probably kill one very easily. Not a blaster but Dooku beat Obi Wan by stabbing him in the thigh first. Jedi are trained to protect what's important but they aren't built to not flinch from getting shot where it isn't important
7:20 "...and while some jedi are trained to be able to take a few stun rounds in the face..." - shows Ashoka my man low-key predicted Tales of the jedi, cheers!
4:27 “what do ya do then?” Well geez Allen, given the circumstances of the situation, I suppose I’ll just solve the situation with the resources I have on hand.
For close quarter combat i would use a Shield with reactive armor, aka a swlaqp of steel with a dozen claimor mines glued to it. Your Lightsaber swinger will get atleast his arm ripped off.
Would railguns be a good weapon against Jedi? They are kind of like a combination of blasters and slug throwers. Also, surprised that you talked about superweapons to kill Jedi, but didn't include the superweapon that actually killed Jedi, the Mass-Shadow Generator.
The Mass Shadow Generator was a one off super weapon that took advantage of the particular nature of the planet it was used on and it destroyed the planet in question, along with everything that was in orbit of it. A Railgun on the other hand, I would like to see a Jedi parry a tungsten slug coming at them at Mach-10
@@weldonwin Yeah, theoretically a Sith could use force lightning to deflect the trajectory of the slug but still would probably be too fast for any force user to react to.
@@soaringraven0 A big part I think of why Jedi and Sith can deflect blaster bolts, is because they seem to travel so slow compared to bullets. Hell, if the railgun is anything like the ones being experimented with now, you wouldn't even have to directly hit the Force User, since Railgun rounds just light the air around them on FIRE with the sheer force of friction and the compression wave they will produce isn't going to be too healthy either
I figure a lightsaber could get beskar so hot it could burn the skin under it. how about a handheld EMP? something to turn off the switch that ignites the lightsaber, NEW WEAPON.
multi beam Lazer would likely be the best. shape of a cross with 4 beams at the tips of the cross and a beam in the center would prove impossible to deflect due to angels of beam attack
Blaster set for stun seems like something the average Star Wars person would have access to. Especially if you get multiple people firing. Once stunned, you can take their lightsaber away and tie them up.
If I was in star wars I’d use a blaster as my main weapon but for Jedi and sith? 5.56 mm M4 steel penetrating core it doesn’t even need to be this strong as either way they’ll end up either on fire with molten metal on them if they hit it with their saber or dead if it hits them head on
Probably wouldn't even hit their saber. The vast majority of Sith/Jedi aren't fast enough, even with enhanced reflexes and precognition. Flip your M4 or the AK to full auto and have fun capping space wizards!
Ever hear of a little thing called a turbolaser.... it can turn the entire earth's surface into molten slag in under 6 hrs from the comfort of space with your favorite beverage and listening to elevator music as the computer does the work
@@SasoriZert Ya but if a single jedi crash landed in lets suppose TX USA they would be pretty screwed. ALSO Base Delta Zero was an empire thing and typically wasn't ordered because the commanding officer risked the tragic but common accident of shooting himself in the back of the head with his own blaster pistol repeatedly.
@@michaelr2604 an empire thing.... someone never read expanded universe republic forces did it as well to their enemies before the empire even existed. Also the orginal comment said the entire star wars universe not a single jedi or sith that landed on earth
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@Generation Tech, an episode and or series idea, average life span of the "expendable" soldier after enlisting or drafted. G.E. and F.O. Stormtroopers, Rebel factions, maybe even clones from the time they are of age for live fire exercises, etc...
A Davy Crockett or tactical nuke also deal with this problem
And or you could also use a machine gun with a high stickler rate key baby. What bullet with the force but can he stop 50 heck minigun should go burn
This dialogue from Atton Rand (KOTOR 2) is excellent:
Exile: "The idea of you fighting Jedi is riddiculous"
Atton: "Yeah, it sure is. And that's why I was so good at it. And that's why I wasn't fighting Jedi. I was killing them. People say killing Jedi is hard. It's not, you just have to be smart about it. No blaster, no getting close to them, no attacking them directly when you can gun down their allies instead. There's ways of gassing them, drugging them, making them lose control, torturing them. I was really good at it. What's worse is that killing them isn't the best thing. Making them fall... making them see our side of it, that was the best."
Exile: "That's little hard to believe"
Atton: "Yeah, maybe you'll believe this - that's when fighting a Jedi, you wound the Padawan first, then let the rest take care of itself. Not only will the master move to protect the student but the Force bond between the two will mess up the master's head better than any stab wound. Anything else? That's only a sample of my arsenal."
Exile: "Tell me. I need to know how to protect myself, and others around me."
Atton: "If there's no whiny little Padawan, start shooting innocents - not to kill, just enough so that they're gonna die unless the Jedi does something to save them. And if their Jedi is stupid enough to use their Makashi lightsaber form against you, start shooting as fast as you can and drop them while they're exposed. Set mines, set a lot of them. Fire gas grenades, but make sure they have magnetic lock targetters so Jedi can't Force Push them back."
Exile: "How could you have killed Jedi?"
Atton: "I taught myself... techniques. It's hard for Jedi to sense what you're really thinking if you throw up walls of strong emotions and feelings. Lust, impatience, cowardice... most Jedi awareness doesn't cruise beyond the surface feelings to see what's deeper."
One of the greatest Star Wars games ever... Classic...
Then Kreia effortlessly made him her bitch. :P
@@minicle426 Kreia is the best Star Wars character in like 20 Years so yeah.... She would do that...
No force user is invincible. but the really skilled and powerful ones will take the best plans, best equipment, and top skills to defeat, regardless of how many cheapshots you set up.
Not that it's impossible or even close, but the best of the best aren't easy to bring down, force user or not.
This is so specific and masterfully diabolical. I dig it.
“What’s that? Jedi can block lasers? We’ll have fun with this buckshot”
- The Russianbadger
In theory they should be able to use force push to block traditional projectiles. As long as they have enough time and distance to react to the threat. But if you set up a few belt fed machine guns and ambushed the Jedi you could easily overwhelm them.
@@justindunlap1235 or have so much buckshot fired at them while a sonic weapon blast there eardrum's to oblivion that they can't focus enough for it to work
At least 2 mgs in a classic box pattern with overlapping fire is all it takes. One mg sure but from 2 sep directions at once..
“Parry this you wizard Bitch!”
~Also The Russianbadger
@@justindunlap1235 I doubt they could block a load of buckshot. They can only block so many objects for so long.
"Jedi at Geonosis showed all the tactical awareness of Russian Batalion Group." That made my day... Also, the last one choice made me remember Imperial Agent talking down Darth Jadus in SWTOR. Masterwork.
Which is why both need to seriously prepare themselves for long term fighting alot better
Jadus was creepy. I understand his motives.. kinda, but he's just a creep about it.
God I wish this was still true
Addendum to the stun bolt: If a Jedi/Sith is stunned, you can easily swap to a kill setting and end them right then and there.
One great anti-Jedi/Sith weapon is the FC-1 Flechette Launcher. You might remember it as the four-barreled, rectangular shotgun from Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast. It's canon again, thanks to a book. The metal spikes it fires can't be effectively blocked by lightsabers, and the secondary fire is a pair of explosive rounds for AOE damage. It's one of the few weapons I'd dare to get close to a saber-wielder with, because at that range, armor or personal shields won't save them. And at longer range, it can hit a lot of targets at once. A Jedi/Sith used to reflecting blaster bolts is as good as dead; they have to use the Force to divert the flechettes. And with multiple flechette hails fired in quick succession, only the most well-trained Force users could hope to stop them all.
Or just destroy the planet in which your enemy is located on.
At less than 1% of 1% of 1% of the populace as Force-sensitives in the Galaxy, that is still in the tens of billions.
For the Jedi, who had roughly 100,000 at most (pre-Order 66), it would be
By the time of the battle of naboo the Jedi had at most between 10,000-15,000.
They had 10,000 Jedi in the galaxy at the time.
Not all force sensitive people are trained jedi though many are undetected until they become to old to be trained or are part of difrent cults (like the nightsister) but still not quite as much as stated in the video I belive one per averagly populated planet is a good gues. So maybe 1 in 10 billion or something close to that.
One thing that tends to be forgotten in the whole superpower talk is that Jedi and Sith are often baseline humans, or near-human aliens, meaning that they are vulnerable in body, and in mind. If you manage to affect the body beyond the ability to heal or overcome (paralyzing gas, neurotoxins, electrical shock causing muscle seizure, liquid nitrogen freezing their joints and cracking their armour...), or you manage to actually deeply affect their mind (terror tactics, demoralization, mental exhaustion, overwhelming anger...), they will slip up.
Vader is a good example of someone who uses psychological warfare to weaken the enemy before he even arrives, but for the whole package (sickness, low morale, physical and mental exhaustion, heavy use of explosives...), you want to read the comics on the battle of Jabiim, aka mini-Geonosis, a month-long slaughter of Jedi so traumatic that it was arguably a big part of Anakin's gradual fall into darkness in the Legends continuity.
Problem with flamethrowers is that if the force user is skilled enough, they can use telekinesis to block/move the burning liquid. Same for projectile weapons/slug throwers
unless the force user happens to be Vader, Palpatine, Windu, or Yoda they will not have that training using the force to block flamethrowers is all but reserved for Masters. Unless it is one of those four in which case you properly did something to earn their personal attention so your already a dead man/woman walking.
Yeah their extremely enhanced reflexes (which they do have, I have absolutely no idea what GT was saying about them lacking that when it's actually pretty well documented, not to mention precog) and telekinesis means they can easily block several projectiles, or at least redirect them with a force push. At the end of the day, force users are telekinetic and telepathic psychics, some of which can see the future. There is no easy way to defeat one unless everything goes to plan, or you are a powerful trained psychic yourself
Jedi reflexes aren’t good enough to catch bullets
Cry about it
Don't forget about tutaminis
didnt know force users had god like neo powers! haha. But yeah that scene in the sequel trilogy where kylo blocks the laser bolt was so mind blowing! 100% this is a good point and something to consider
In a Star Wars rpg I played an engineer who modified a sonic pistol to resonate on the same frequency as the focusing lenses in lghtsabers. I had a GM who loved lateral thinking so he was happy to okay the design based on a simple scientific principle and boom, one well targeted shot with it and the Sabercracker (tm) would crack the lens in a lightsaber, rendering it useless until repaired.
Yo what thats smart
Another tactic I would like to add is star fighters. While the Skywalkers were excellent pilots (its literally in their name "sky walker") I don't believe the other jedi were as adept at flying star fighters and I think that flight takes jedi out of their element and puts them on a more even playing field. For example, Plo Koon was a skilled jedi master even capable of creating his own lightning that was killed by two unamed clone pilot teams in a dogfight where he was not able to use most of his powers.
I'd hardly call Plo Koon's death a dogfight. HIs wingmen decelerate slightly behind him and shoot his unshielded ship with no opportunity to take evasive action.
Yeah, Jedi are pretty good with star fighters as well, they have a advantage but you would likely have a better chance against them in a dog fight than on the ground, but if they are a jedi that specializes in Starfighter combat, then your best bet is to run or I guess fly away.
to be fair to Plo Koon, I don't think he expected his long time allies to suddenly get an order from the supreme chancellor who turned out to be a sith lord to kill all the jedi
Grand Admiral Thrawn having an adorable lizard pet in his hoodie at 9:25 is the cutest thing
You could always bury them in legal actions and paperwork …
"What do you mean there's a lien on the Temple for violating building codes?".
Random person- "Lord Vader there's no way building a castle on a lava planet is proper building co..." *ACK *
Lord Vader- "I will make it legal"
@@Christian-be6eg”Lord Vader, as your legal consul I would highly recommend you to secure the funds for what you owe for your children’s child support.
While your son’s payment is easy, it is not so for your daughter.
I always thought it would be smart and super cool to have a cortosis guard on a lightsaber. It's kind of an underhanded tactic, so maybe the jedi wouldn't approve, but it seems like it would be an effective way of winning a saber duel.
I've always thought the same thing. That and a momentary off switch so you could just avoid your opponents blocks By turning off the blade for a fraction of a second.
In what refers the canon lightsabers have some kind of "heavy" that means they deal strength when hitting, also cortosis is fragile in any iteration, so the most probably outcome would be a 1 time trick cause the guard would likely break at the first strike
Wouldn't a water gun short circuit most lightsabers?
@@foxhound963 Pre-Luke, maybe. Though I doubt it would be enough to do the trick. For example: if you squirt your phone with water, nothing happens. If you drop your phone in water, then you wreck it. But yes, durring the Republic, only Kit Fisto had re-worked his lightsaber to work underwater.
@@foxhound963 Obi-wan's lightsaber worked in the rain (without shorting out) when he was going up against Jango Fett in Attack of the Clones.
Please correct me if I'm wrong which movie it was, but I distinctly remember that scene.
Saw a few other comments, but yep shotgun is the first thing that comes to mind. Second being stunblasts which iirc from various expanded universe stories were not capable of being parried. After that would be sonic weapons, explosives, fire, etc.
Would having a droid bodyguard that can fight force users be an option? Droidekas, magnaguards, BX commando, HKB-3, EG-05, JK-13, and Ultra battle droids seem to be effective. Is there any chance I can talk you into doing a video of the best droids to use against force users?
Grapple Droids.
@@minicle426
HECK YA!!!
Scorponek droids.
Does a general grievous count as a droid:). I would say it's at least somewhat proof of concept. Exactly how easy that concept is to replicate or produce en mass is a different question
@@lordgod9958 Only if it's badass 3Grieve (2003 Cartoon Network Grievous.).
Best solution for Vader, stay half a galaxy away and don't draw attention to yourself. Either that or be more valuable alive and functioning properly. Not just alive, with Vader, there are many ways one could be alive, yet not really wish to remain so.
If Armys can not, If Apex Predators can not, If bounty hunters cannot, And Even Sith Cannot. No One fights Darth Vader. One runs for there life from Drath Vader.
You can also use the death star or gain the protection of Palatine.
@@ramarblood7697 That too.
"Lord Vader would never kill me; I do his taxes."
@@matohibiki You know that people don't tax Darth Vader if they want to live. But thank you for your kindness.
Watch out on magnetic bullets, they get caught in the lightsabers magnetic field, used to keep the lightsaber blade in place. Classic chemical propulsion of cortosis or other lightsaber resistant Material bullets is the way to go here. If you have it a crossbow or a sling, using the upper conditions with the bolt fullfilling the upper conditions should work as well, if a little slower.
don´t bother with fancy tech like explosive bullets or EMP. A hardcore shell with the core made from lightsaber resistant materials should work, too. But we´re slowly entering tank shell territory. And a tank should be able to wipe away a jedis smug smile anyway.
The Verpines may have beautiful and effective slugthrowers, but those normally need to contain some magnetic materials in order to work properly.
thing about magnetic field is if its fast enough it doesnt matter
@@bazilisek502 Or the other way round: if the magnetic field is strong enough, it´ll matter a lot. since the Kyber crystals are working as energy amplificators, to a shear endless degree, I fear that the deflection capabilities of the saber are very much dependant on the rest-components in a lightsaber (such as cables, the energy cells input, etc.). But I´ll somewhat agree, at least the bolt will not come back to haunt you, even if it´s magnetic. the worst that will probably happen to the projectile is getting absorbed into the blade, giving the jedi a little dirt on it´s lightsaber after the battle.
@@biggsdarklighter0473 they dont hold sun they hold plasma torch so completly useless
Yeah, thanks to the Yuuzhan Vong, I’ve got an Extended Family of Furrets( _Pokémon_ )/Ferrets with Ysalamir laced into their genome & such…
Question: what happens if the ‘Jedi/Sith’ in question has a Force-Imbued metal sword? How well would that work out?
Pretty well actually.
There's more than just the Jedi and Sith out there. They're just the two biggest and well known Force Orders. There's plenty of wild Force Adepts and smaller orders out there and they're known to imbue more mundane weapons with The Force over time to tune themselves to the weapon. It won't deflect blaster rounds like a lightsaber but those weapons somehow seem to be capable of more then before...
So, based on the video, would I be able to fend off a force user with a Force-Imbued sword & such, @@graveyardshift6691?
@@nickvinsable3798 Theoretically yes.
In practice there's all manner of other factors to consider but at its very core of 'could I fend off a Jedi/Sith with a force imbued weapon. Yes.
Vibroblades have been used since the days of the Old Republic and can easily parry lightsabers due to how they work which vibrates the blade to a frequency that matches energy production. Now that blade is still going to take durability damage and need to be replaced but it can hold its own for a bit.
Force imbued weapons work somewhat the same way.
It's all the other factors you include that really make it a solid yes/no.
If you’re referring to _Knights of the Old Republic_ , @@graveyardshift6691, its been mentioned that such blades, the in-game blades, had cortosis in them. Just clarifying something…
HK-47 is also a great droid when it comes to killing Jedi. He seems quite the expert.
Misleading Statement: Anything you have heard in that vein is merely slander and speculation, Master. I would never concoct twenty-eight different ways to kill your friends...
Additional Aside: That is an offensively low number.
Thanks for the help! I am pest control here on coruscant and need this info.
In legends, and I think it may still exist in Canon, there were flechete launchers, which were basically man portable munitions launchers whose rounds would split up into a cloud of razor sharp darts, blades, etc. Jedi had a real hard time avoiding a cloud of razor blades launched at point blank range
Shotgun?
@@Shad0wBoxxer look up Golan arms fc-1. It looks like an M202 rocket launcher but it's fired from the hip
@@greyeshane7895 yikes…….
Thank you for being one of the few SW fans with a brain. Most others just rant some nonsense about how "technological terror" is insignificant next to the Force.
7:19 I'm pretty sure Ahsoka did block multiple stun bolts with her lightsaber, in that arc where she was a fugitive and the shocktroopers were chasing her using LAAT/le gunships.
chopping of the Voskar tails decreases aggression, which makes for easier domestication at the cost of, well, aggression
I mostly used the scatter pistol, but functionally the bolt-group was considered as a single bolt for sabre-blocking so it's main feature was irrelevant
The odd thing about it is that Jedi/Sith would do better not fighting as well. They would be much better scouts, info gatherers and saboteurs than fighters.
Let the hordes of robots do the fighting. You'll lose a bunch, but hey, build more.
Droids are not cheap and they may lack initiative
@@cedriceric9730 B-1s only cost 1,800 credits per unit, B-2s 3,300, Droidekkas 21,000. Now comapre it to the Clones who had armor worth 4,000, a rifle worth 1,000, and a backup pistol worth 500 which is not including the price of food and training. Thats also not counting the variants of droids like Magno Guards, and Assasin Droids, Crab Droids and so on same goes the Clones and their vehicles but on average droids were far cheaper.
@@dragonace119 Yeah but the clones were the best of the best, in most other galactic millitary units the clones probably would have been special forces. You'd be better off comparing driods to stormtroopers, who were still far more effective
@@imisioluwalawal2945 Yeah and that's the issue, they made an army of spec ops, would be amazing if facing against an organic opponent who would have to worry about similar problems you have to.
Against mostly droids who can just simply have a chip installed to learn things and not worry about training or replacing losses and your in a losing situation specially when its a long term war since the costs and losses add up.
A droid army would still be far more effective than stormtroopers mainly due to droids not needing training and moral not being an issue. Add in the corps were swimming in money, money isn't an issue so might as well just make stronger droids and shit them out.
In Star Wars: Dark Forces 2 (if I recall), there were three weapons I'd use to usurp the defenses of Force-users and they basically resembled a shotgun, a grenade launcher, and a sniper rifle. The shotgun was the flechette cannon. The grenade launcher was a radioactive glob launcher on the underside of the Imperial heavy blaster. And the sniper rifle was a type of super-blaster. The glob launcher was my top fave followed closely by the flechette cannon. The sniper super-blaster was hard to use effectively because you couldn't move while aiming with the scope.
0:12 Chaotic? But weren't those shenanigans the result of different definitions of "order?"
12:09 Aren't they obsessed with "order," though? Or is that less a Sith thing and more an Empire thing?
That tactic was also good in Jedi knight 2 Jedi outcast, which I’ve played and beaten. Loved blowing them up with the GL!
Molotov cocktails are a good thing to use the instructions are simple light and throw at the target and they are simple to make and it uses a lot of different fuel types alcohol is common and a works great in the container you buy it in all you need is a piece of cloth that you can get from your clothes
Force push the bottle
@@Shad0wBoxxer use M2 flamethrower then
Thick alien shorty was definitely something I wasn't expecting to hear today
"who like to mainline the force like a heroin junkie"
These are the gems I come here for!
You are essentially explaining the Manolorian philosophy.
You can block blaster bolts?
Block this flame, RPG or buckshot!
5:32 actually at worst it is a cortosis bullet so it kills the lightsaber when they block it and now they can't easily stop the follow up shot. According to Cad Bane it wears through the barrels faster than conventional ammo so save it for jedi and make your shots count.
Plus I imagine a material seen as rarely as cortosis would be ridiculously expensive, basically like loading platinum bullets here on earth.
That's why you jacket it in something softer, and hopefully non-magnetic.
@@ben4R Honestly that makes sense for what you are using it for. Lightsaber burns through the outer coating then gets disabled. Just don't let Cad Bane hear you say that, alright?
@@justindunlap1235I guess its similar to using a silver bullet to kill a werewolf
Would the mandolorians fall more towards the sith or the jedi? they are very honourable but they are living killing machines.
I would say they are more like the sith
They’re more neutral. They live for battle which can seem like they are just like Sith, but they value honour above all else which makes them more Jedi. (Not the bounty Hunter versions as they mainly just go for who can pay the most).
Well… that’s a complex question. The only Mandalorian we know of that took fighting along Qel-Droma and Exar Kun as a bad thing was Mandalore the Perserver. But by and Large they mesh better and do better with the Sith.
Until you hit imperial era Sith. Palpatine wasn’t a typical Sith Lord, and he sought more than dominance. He sought control over everything. Death Watch Allied with the ‘Dark Side’ during that god awful peaceful Mandalorian Arc, but quickly didn’t like it. So it really depends on era. But mainly they are more Sith oriented than Jedi.
@@erikurizita6702Imperial and Post-Ensor the Mandalorians were pro-Jedi, since the Rebels helped free Mandalore.
We do know there was Atleast one prominent mandalorian jedi who made the DarkSaber probably a few mando sith
Generation Tech: "Here are some anti-jedi weapons"
Mandalorians: 👀
Methinks you don't know how many Mando are on the writing staff. Where do you think they get all of these ideas?
Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth
He made a slight mistake. Cortosis isn’t a metal. If you read the book Thrawn Alliances, which is cannon, cortosis is described as a fibrous, plant-like material. It does still short out lightsaber blades and also disperses blaster bolt energy.
I rather stick with words honestly, glad it's on the list.
I'm pretty sure hurting or *killing* a Jedi or Sith will do far more bad than good; if you or me managed to take down either than there will be a big red spot on your back for the group you've messed with to get rid of, neither side wants anyone to be able to stop them so openly showing that you can will be a problem for them.
9:17 just going to say, I love this art of Thrawn with his little Ysalimari buddy, especially the one with it cosied up in his hoody... In fact let us all appreciate the image of Thrawn on one of his chill-days, where he wears a hoody
Thrawn was a man of culture, dude loved his art.
I can see him being VERY confused by earth art and culture. "I have had my agents scour this world, and they have still yet to find the elusive 'Hello Kitty' I have seen much artwork of."
@@matohibiki Just wait until someone shows him Cat-Memes
"If it's good enough for Thrawn, it's good enough for me." My man.
Thank you for this informative video. I was worried about what to do when I encounter a Jedi. now I'll know
Love the callback to Troopers. Remember when college humor was funny?
The idea of the Thron having a pet lizard with him all the time is just stupid funny.
If you take a look at his office in cw he has a relief carving of ysalamari
The Chiss uses Masers (Microwave lasers) which cannot be blocked by a lightsabre.
For using the talk to them method with a sith I think if you could pick any line it would be "I will do and/or say what ever you want if you let me live."
So basically, become a Sith simp; a Simpth
Pickpocketing or tractor beams for sticky fingers, magnets powerful enough to rip your phone through your leg like an MRI machine and emp's which there are droid poppers, flame throwers and if you have a means of detonating the flames to spread it, concussion weapons, shotguns and flak guns (there is a small risk of the leifenfrost effect causing the round to deflect off itself melting but since they don't wear armor, they'd still get a little shrapnel) stopping the force all together is amazing and I love learning more about thrawn's pure tactical prowess. More explosives verging on artillery and anti ship guns, destroying planets and solar systems to get them.
Then finally bribery lol
Would a lightsaber be effective against a bowcaster? At least in Legends it was a solid projectile with an ionized plasma sheath. So would the lightsaber deflect the plasma or with the projectile go through the blade?
It has always been my understanding that the wooky bow casters are quite effective!! 🤠👍
Anything physical connects with that blade it will immediately start melting. The two magnetic fields however would interact allowing the lightsaber to push aside the object similar to your average sword deflecting an arrow.
This is why the vaunted and lauded buckshot is actually useless against a lightsaber. One quick sweep and the entire volley is neutralized having been vaporized by the plasma.
So yes. The lightsaber is effective against a bowcaster.
Now whether or not an untrained user is going against a skilled bowcaster marksman....
@@graveyardshift6691 Well I guess it's Ssi-ruuvi paddle beamers and Stokhli spray sticks then.
Out of curiosity, anyone know where he got the footage from 0:52?
You forgot a few of the best weapons to use. 1) Another Force User, 2) A tactical nuclear launcher a.k.a. a Fat Man launcher, 3) a Naval Particle Cannon. The first has its own issues, the second you have to have some skill in basic math, and the third you need access to a WarShip or DropShip.
Or you can shoot them with bullets. You know like the mandalorians did
Good old fashioned solid projectile based weapons.
number 7: a cute little lizard
number 9: USE A DEATH STAR
Well, that escalated quickly
6:17 or it will just go through the lightsaber most bullet have to mutch velocity to even have the time to eaht from the blade so it will just go through the blade ending the life of the lightsaber user that didn't manage to stop a supersonic projectil
Beautiful gadgets.
A weapon you didn't list that is known as being one of the best options for taking out force users is the Verpine Shatter Gun.
Which is a handheld magnetic accelerator which fires a tiny pellet at incredible speeds.
So fast in fact that it's effectively impossible to even react before you get turned into a fine red mist.
Much less block, dodge, or even see it coming.
They were also nearly silent and could be used at extreme range with pinpoint accuracy in the hands of a skilled marksman.
You could argue that this is a slug thrower but I don't think it qualifies because it's not using any form of chemical propellent like slug throwers do and instead works via completely different principles.
The only real downsides to them is that they're rare & expensive.
Great vid GenTech. I highly enjoy your content.
my personal favorite way to avoid a Force wielder encounter is just death
9:24 Wait. Thrawn wear a hoodie? I didn't know that.
Actually, Flame throwers CAN be blocked via telekinesis & I'm pretty sure I've seen Windu not only DODGE a guided missile but then redirect it back at its shooter.
Windu does Windu things tbh.
Mace Windu is an exception to what a baseline Jedi can do. I guess if we aren't dealing with a Jedi Master, it would still be viable.
There’s also a couple off creatures that mute the force . Admiral thrawn has a couple as pets so cool
0:50
....when did that happen?
and what is he force-pushing? is he force-pushing a cloud of blaster bolts?
I would use a mg42 or a 20 mm ATR if I can get my hands on one
Or even a fucking minigun,the jedi could not stand a chance
Generation Tech: "The power to destroy planets is in fact significant compared to the power of the force"
THan you for the tips man. Now I can saftly fly around the galaxy
That clip near the beginning with someone deflecting all those blaster bolts back at the troopers is so sick, but I don’t recognize it! I can’t believe I’ve forgotten such an awesome scene, does anyone know what it’s from?
Vornskrs are domesticated by cutting off their tails. A well trained, force-sensitive-eating guard dog!
I think you also have to train them from very young too, but Talon Kaard had a pair of them as pets
@@weldonwin Yep! That too.
@@zombiemaster4525 Honestly, I think having trained Vornskrs as your anti-Jedi/Sith option is worth it, just for the look on Darth Fuckyouuppicus's face when you yell "Fluffy! SICK-EM!!!" And a Vornskr comes bounding at them
A suit of power armor, beskar and such plated. Jet packs inbuilt of coarse. Secondary stun or shotgun weapons mounted for all around coverage. And a... or maybe a pair of... rotary autocanons firing kinetic explosive amunition set to airburst at the targets location based on predicted flight times. Near misses are deadly, blocking is unlikely to work and if it doesn't they can't reflect it. Using the force to grab and stop the rounds also takes a lot of focus and is very hard to redirect them back at you when they'd explode before they could turn them and shoot them back. And if you're own armor can tank the fragmentation from them all the better.
Finally a flamethrower or too, and you're golden. Maybe toss in a Ylsimari in a little armored backpack compartment for it to be safe in and really... what's a force user to do?
I got a pet esilameri to protect from force users. And because they are kinda cute
Firearms rules 😂
He goes from stun the Jedi to blow up the entire planet.
This is my kind of channel
3:20
Darth Bane on Apatros mines: I wish that were true
The Darth Bane books especially the first page of the first book states how Cortosis was so hard to mine that it would take hours just to mine it with hydraulic jacks or blow torches.
Thrawn Tested…Allen approved
Wait what’s the fan make looking clip at 0:55 it looks cool as hell
It's part of the Darth Vader series that the channel named "Star Wars Theory" made.
#6 is an instant NOPE. That would be like trusting your safety with an adult, territorial *chimpanzee!* 💀
#7 came to just soothe our hearts. Just trying to picture one of those little things just wrapping itself around Thrawn's neck and just chilling... _it earns points for adorableness alone._
I would also like to import some of our own Earth options into the equation. Namely, our inumerable types of machine guns!
From the easiest to carry around with you like Uzis, P-90's and even automatic pistols, to the slightly bigger but most potent rifle-like machine guns like the always reliable AK-47. Not to mention, the good ol' minigun.
All of these firearms are projectile weapons and they have an insanely fast rate of fire! You can overwhelm a Sith or a Jedi who are blocking with a lightsaber by the sheer ammount of bullets that you're firing per second, and best of all even if they DO block, the bullets will at best just pop, _at worst melt down and splash all over them!_ They're perfect!
*Unless the Jedi or Sith in question is in-tune enough with the Force that they just stop the bullets mid-air with the Force, Matrix style. At that point I suggest taking cover before they throw that back at you.*
if we are talking legends the scattergun is actually an energy weapon as seen in Star Wars Republic Commandos
Probably the most effective way is shooting them in the hand. Most Jedis that died to blaster fire were hit the limbs before taking fatal hits. Jango killed that Dinosaur Jedi guy by shooting him in the hand first followed by 2 quick ones to the chest while he was staggered. Clones were trained explicitly to shoot Jedi in the limbs rather than going for lethal shots. If you can shoot a Jedi in the foot you can probably kill one very easily. Not a blaster but Dooku beat Obi Wan by stabbing him in the thigh first. Jedi are trained to protect what's important but they aren't built to not flinch from getting shot where it isn't important
Thank you.
7:20 "...and while some jedi are trained to be able to take a few stun rounds in the face..." - shows Ashoka
my man low-key predicted Tales of the jedi, cheers!
I love how Generation Tech is lowkey biased against Jedi.
4:27 “what do ya do then?”
Well geez Allen, given the circumstances of the situation, I suppose I’ll just solve the situation with the resources I have on hand.
I like this videos thanks for making it alan :DD
2:59 i have and idea cortorsis bullets
Steveee... great to see a bit more humor back in the intro!
What if I have a blaster sniper with high bullet velocity (railgun levels of velocity)
That wouldn’t be possible because if u wanted that much power in the shot, u would need a huge blaster cannon.
Use Barrett 50 cal rifle lol
@@PiercetheUnshucked yhea I should just stick to my Barret M107
@@toptiergaming6900 Yep! Wish suppressor & special 50 BMG rounds.
@@pyeitme508 you mean with. Also I got a thermal scope on there too
Love your videos.
Dioxins and electro fields or something as simple as acoustics. If used correctly Acoustics can cause solid ground to behave as a liquid.
"Don't get deaded by fire like some punk ass moisture farmer, Steve!" 😆😂🤣❤
- Where can I get that on a T-shirt? 🙃
For close quarter combat i would use a Shield with reactive armor, aka a swlaqp of steel with a dozen claimor mines glued to it. Your Lightsaber swinger will get atleast his arm ripped off.
So unless you have really rare Jedi killing toys/super weapons, Sonic, flame, slug or impact detonation ordnance is a JKs best friend
Or befriend or bribe a mandolorian.
The ultimate tool to fight against a Jedi? Glock. Just a Glock. If you've got some extra money a Five-seveN with black-tip AP rounds.
weapons that use particle waves would be hard to defend against and would be forced to use avoidance ?
Would railguns be a good weapon against Jedi? They are kind of like a combination of blasters and slug throwers.
Also, surprised that you talked about superweapons to kill Jedi, but didn't include the superweapon that actually killed Jedi, the Mass-Shadow Generator.
The Mass Shadow Generator was a one off super weapon that took advantage of the particular nature of the planet it was used on and it destroyed the planet in question, along with everything that was in orbit of it. A Railgun on the other hand, I would like to see a Jedi parry a tungsten slug coming at them at Mach-10
@@weldonwin Yeah, theoretically a Sith could use force lightning to deflect the trajectory of the slug but still would probably be too fast for any force user to react to.
@@soaringraven0 I mean. Possible, yes. Likely? No.
@@soaringraven0 A big part I think of why Jedi and Sith can deflect blaster bolts, is because they seem to travel so slow compared to bullets. Hell, if the railgun is anything like the ones being experimented with now, you wouldn't even have to directly hit the Force User, since Railgun rounds just light the air around them on FIRE with the sheer force of friction and the compression wave they will produce isn't going to be too healthy either
I figure a lightsaber could get beskar so hot it could burn the skin under it. how about a handheld EMP? something to turn off the switch that ignites the lightsaber, NEW WEAPON.
No combat droids with advanced melee abilities and force pikes or electro staves?
Nice to see some Legends content!!
multi beam Lazer would likely be the best. shape of a cross with 4 beams at the tips of the cross and a beam in the center would prove impossible to deflect due to angels of beam attack
Blaster set for stun seems like something the average Star Wars person would have access to. Especially if you get multiple people firing. Once stunned, you can take their lightsaber away and tie them up.
You missed the chance of saying: you can go full on Vong, has a nicer ring to it. 😂
If I was in star wars I’d use a blaster as my main weapon but for Jedi and sith? 5.56 mm M4 steel penetrating core it doesn’t even need to be this strong as either way they’ll end up either on fire with molten metal on them if they hit it with their saber or dead if it hits them head on
Probably wouldn't even hit their saber. The vast majority of Sith/Jedi aren't fast enough, even with enhanced reflexes and precognition. Flip your M4 or the AK to full auto and have fun capping space wizards!
I’d like to see some slug throwers in the shows/movies.
So Earth would be op in the Star Wars universe against the Jedi and Sith
Maybe
50 cal laughs in exploding heads
Ever hear of a little thing called a turbolaser.... it can turn the entire earth's surface into molten slag in under 6 hrs from the comfort of space with your favorite beverage and listening to elevator music as the computer does the work
@@SasoriZert Ya but if a single jedi crash landed in lets suppose TX USA they would be pretty screwed. ALSO Base Delta Zero was an empire thing and typically wasn't ordered because the commanding officer risked the tragic but common accident of shooting himself in the back of the head with his own blaster pistol repeatedly.
@@michaelr2604 an empire thing.... someone never read expanded universe republic forces did it as well to their enemies before the empire even existed. Also the orginal comment said the entire star wars universe not a single jedi or sith that landed on earth