Kia vs Honda, Which is Better
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- Kia vs Honda, Which is Better, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Honda car review. Kia car review. Which Asian car manufacturer makes the most reliable car, Kia or Honda. Are Hondas still reliable? Are Kia cars any good? Which car is worth buying, Hondas or Kias? Kia used to be known as terrible cars but newer ones have vastly improved over the years, are they now better than Honda? Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 51 years.
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Thank you Scotty! My 2013 Kia Rio EX had 22000 on the clock when I got it in 2015- now it''s got 88000 and it's never given me a second of trouble- actually, the best car I've had in my life thus far and I'm 54
Scotty Kilmer When you get 2 million subs you should probably raffle off That Celica 😃
Kia is a bad brand Honda is better than Toyota and Kia Honda or nothing...
LtJackboot my brother in law drives his cinco reo to death and it won’t guilt. New brakes every 60 thou and he’s on the third timing belt. He’s 6-2 and 240. Long live KIA
Which is better Honda or Hyundai?
Scotty: Toyota
evo1video I love Toyota and especially that new RAV4
@Henry Fung yeah almost!
bought a i30 nline...im so happy with the package
for the same price i could buy a jazz..
which is better? i chose i30👍
@@MackMizzle323 expensive thou
rav4 looks good
Hyundai sucks engine is not good
@@jerodposo8358 its not a race car..i agree
i have had 2 i30s last 8 years
no engine problem 1.4 turbo gdi
No matter what brand you have if you don't take care of your car the car can't take care of you...
Unless it's a mark 4 VW gti. I was so picky with that car on maintenance and cleaning it and there was always an issue, not matter how I took care of it.
Cars are also luck..also very important to use ONLY what the manufacture recommend (oils, original oil filters, water coolant , etc..) if you use anything other then G12(++ is the new) the VW engine will make a lot of troubles
I come from different brands and back in time everyone was asking why I buy a $37,000 Kia Now 11 year's later and 157, miles The car run find without issue... Same with the Rover back in time I spend $57, 000 in a truck when everyone say those truck come with a lote of problems .. Today after good maintenance booth running fine without issues reason why I don't change for nothing those cars.
"Cars just need love is part of the family"
Exactly, the reasonable price for normal cars should not exceed $18,000 and with good maintenance during 10 years you can use the money difference of these pricey cars $5,000 - $8,000 to maintain your $18,000 car instead of buying $24,000-$30,000 cars & paying extra money for maintenance & spare part once the warranty expires which is ( 1-3 years in my country for Toyota & Honda ! )
On my Honda Accord 2005 I have only changed coil, clutch,dynamo,transmission oil and battery once,but never the timing belt or exhaust systems.I've had the car for 10 years now without service(!)and it has now went 270000 km with almost no problems.
I don’t even have to watch the video to know Scotty will say Honda
Marc Acosta you know for damn sure honda is better than hundai
@@GOATED1973 there are some hyundais that are more reliable than some hondas and the other way round. period.
Because it's true!
@@GOATED1973 eh not so true in the year of 2019
I haven't watched the video, but I assume he will say Toyota
I live in Calgary and I'd owed Honda's since my first car, until I bought a 2011 Sorento EX, and I'm still loving it, she's at 245,000 km (150k miles) and only visited the mechanic 2 years ago to get the front suspension fixed, at the time I had as well a 2006 honda civic which in 2014 I decided to replace it for a new Forte, and today, after 100k miles it hasn't been at the mechanic or the dealership for any repairs. Only things I do on my cars is brakes and oil changes. I still love Honda's but Kia has earned my trust.
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Why do I still feel like a Kia is a girls car jeep or not !…
@@tre5895 what ab the k5 or telluride
@@tre5895 then dont get the rio
@@unknownninja4430 oh ok
I have loved Honda's my whole life. But my current KIA (2009 Sportage) has better fit & finish and has given me nearly 200,000 completely trouble free miles.
Calvin Hikes the new Honda’s have a lot of plastic, and transmission problems
@@N12Gautam the CVT used is also pretty dull for a transmission
223000 on mine so far so good
Ew, Honda is trash
@@ATH-camChannelwithNoName Newer ones yes, but older ones were solid.
I don't think Kia and Hyundai can sell junk and offer 10 year/100,000 mile powertrain warrenties. If Mercedes did that they're out of buisness!
The way it was explained to me is they have to have that long of a warranty to cover all of the recalls. I've had at least five on both of my Kia's. Luckily nothing too bad, but Honda rarely has recalls
Question one : warranty transferrable? How many Americans would keep a car for 100k? Not the majority
mercedes are unreliable cars
@@jaymuzikelsensacional : all Kraut Cans are trash.
Ha! Same with BMW. If they had to back their cars with a long warranty, they would be out of business.
My brother has a 2013 Kia Optima with 202,309 km on the odo and so far so good! Oil change, all fluid changed (transmission, coolant and brake fluid), on 2nd set of brakes and just got brand new tires all around. .. basic maintenance done for 200k+ km
I find kia/hyundai is not up to Toyota/Honda level yet but I'll give them credit that they are getting there
I had a 2006 Honda Civic, drove it 72,000 miles before totalling it. Under warrantee I had to have interior trim replaced, driver's side power window motor replaced (twice), passenger side power window motor (once), rear passenger side power door lock replaced, power trunk latch replaced, and air conditioning went out and took a month to fix in the middle of summer. Thank God I'd gotten an extended warrantee. Brakes were done at 60,000 miles and the guy at Midas was shocked, said he usually saw cars like mine go through brakes in about half the time.
After totalling it I got a Hyundai Sonata. Long story; I'd been trying to negotiate the price on an Accord but the dealership refused to negotiate, so I went across the street to the Hyubdai dealer to spite them. I traded that car in at 52,000 miles with not a single problem.
I traded it in on a Santa Fe Sport (2.0t). It's 7 years old and I've put 96,000 miles on it. I've only had to replace a fuel pump under warrantee and I'm currently having a problem with the transmission fluid temp sensor, which is getting repaired under warrantee. Those have been the only issues with it. No interior trim falling off, no power window or door lock issues, the brakes are still the factory set but will need to be replaced soon, the battery was finally replaced about a month ago. I just change the oil every 5,000 miles and she keeps treating me well.
After paying off the Santa Fe I bought a 2018 Accord, before the 1.5t engine issues became a popular topic. No major issues mechanically, but I'm seeing a number of fit and finish issues again; trim falling off, not properly attached to begin with, and now chipping paint is becoming a discussion topic that has me worried.
Suffice it to say, I've been more impressed with my Hyundai ownership experience than my Honda one. The only reason for getting a Honda over a Hyundai IMO is the better driving dynamics.
I love this comment, thank u.
The problem with car dealers is there are not enough GOOD mechanics anywhere!
Sadly it is a dying breed. As a mechanic, I wish more people world find a love for it. There would be a lot more common sense in the world.
Right- Once you find a competent, honest mechanic (NOT a dealership, Honda or otherwise), you stick with him. He will keep your Honda running almost forever and save you many thousands by not overcharging or repairing imaginary problems.
Wrong. They are very good mechanics. But they’re also scammers
Sorry I did not clarify. I'm not a professional ASE certified mechanic. I'm home grown/self taught with the help of my dad and grandpa and my love for cars. I learned how to work on cars the old fashioned way. But yes I agree with you all. Working for a company is rough. Easier to work on cars as needed and as a hobby for modifying your car. I don't know if I want to do it professionally.
..or electronics trouble shooters. Seems like pretty much the same difference these days.
2019, the Yundai was born.
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I always want laugh when Scotty says Yundai lol
Hyundai like Sunday.....
@@Marlon_J Hi
Lmao cute little yellow face with little yellow hand over the yellow face lmao username " Random Thoughs "
He's probably pronouncing it in Korean, be open minded bro lol 😁😆
Both Korean brands have come a long way. I love my Hyundai Sonata. One of the main causes of the price difference is that Hyundai produces their own steel
Joseph DeLucia well I have a 2017 so that’s good I guess
And sell steel to other carmakers.
@Joseph DeLucia i must have dodged the bullet with my 09. Only issues i had were battery related and i caused those myself.
What sonata do you got. I got an 11' and BOY does it suck. Heavy winds today and i have to go 20mph over the limit to keep up with the tail of traffic.
45k+ miles on 2nd engine, 144k+ on the clock. Not worth it, but as a daily. It'll do.
Hyundai sonata and Santa Fe are some of the best vehicles out there. you still see them on the road even if they're from 2002.
Back when “Yundai” was trash in the early 2000’s my neighbors had two. The motors crapped out on both of them. They took them to the dealership and they got brand new vehicles no cost.
I have a 2007 Kia Sorento, with 225,000+ miles. Best reliable car I've ever owned. Going for 500,000.
that's amazing! Our Toyota Sienna LE about to be at 200k miles now.
WOW
Kia? LOL... now sell it in craiglist let us see how much they bargain LMAO
@@temle7489 I got my money's work out of the vehicle. I don't plan to sell it anytime soon. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. I've had Fords, Buicks, Jeeps, Chevy's and Chrysler products. Kia is way and away better than any of those. Though I did get 300,000 on my 1984 Mustang GT, but it didn't age that well.
Cap it at 250-300k and call it a day. The amount of money you will wind up spending to rebuild the entire thing just isn't worth it. The transmission alone is sure to go, and that's several thousand bucks.
We have owned 6 different Hyundais and now a 2019 Sedona. Not one problem mechanically on any of them..
How much did Hyudai pay you to say that?
Warren Gauthier They said the same about Samsung phones, today they make the best android phones.
Stay fooling
Any lease for 5 years is going to drive perfectly unless u wreck it. It's what happens after 60K where the truth comes out
6 Hyundai’s is quite a lot. In my 18 years on this earth my mom has had 2 Toyota’s. I’m more of a Honda guy but 6 cars is quite a lot.
@@RaynMedia it appears we don’t keep cars as long as you do.
Honda is great but in my personal experience Kia is also very reliable. I have a 2008 Kia ceed and it works like a charm even though it has driven over 400 000km.
IDONTBELIVEIT
@@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- but I do
Lol no way
It's not the most fun car to drive but everything works and I can get around town. Any diesel engine should do easy 500k.
Kia has very quietly upped its vehicle quality, and in a hurry. In 2001, my insurance company wouldn't even cover Kia. I'm not joking. The Spectra started earning respect. Today, all their stuff is at or near the top of the pack in initial quality. Scotty is still stuck in the 90"s.
283,000 miles on my 2008 Hyundai Sonata Limited. 11 years later and she is still running strong.
After its 4th rebuild
Garbage car 😂
Count your self very lucky 🍀
I had a 2004 Sonata that kept burning out headlights. On one occasion both went out at the same time.
Well you've found a unicorn.....
my old boss has a Hyundai Gensis when they first brought it to the states; dude has had 0 problems with it.
Scotty hates kia, cause until 100k miles, they won't come to 'ol Scotty's shop for power train work.
Haha it also seems to me. On the other hand he is making videos about Toyota car faults and problems. Hypocrite, he lost all credibility. My Kia has 124 000 miles and still runs great
@@domagoj5455 he is also sponsored by Toyota.
He is not sponsored by anyone. 124K is nothing. My Honda still runs great and it has 331K. My mom's Toyota has 341k and runs fine.
@Roshiar Fares I'm impressed. Dude I would have kept that beast 😂
Domagoj Kovačić that car just got broken in at those miles. see if you can get that thing to 300k lol
Owned a 2002 Accord Coupe V6 with 200k+ miles in it and it still runs like new
I got a 4 cylinder 02 ex coupe. 188K miles. Reliable as it gets.
Same here.. Its not running now..because I lost the only key I had for it....smh 😂😂😂
I had 1998 Accord, and automatic transmission had to be replaced at around 50k miles.
there was a massive recall, supposedly, I never got a letter from Honda, probably I moved around a lot at that time.
and supposedly recall period was over, and I had to pay $500 for new transmission, the dealer said.
which was not a lot of money, so I just paid the damn money, and didn't bother to argue.
nice I have an 04 Coupe v6 6speed, 300k+ kilometers now, head gaskets were done it still feels awesome. It can get good gas mileage but I can't help stomping the gas!
@@stevejeffrey11 I hated that year coupe bodystyle.. It did get better with the 06-07 model.. Edges were more refined ..
Hyundais before 2006 were junk.
2008 Hyundai Sonata, 300,000 miles, still runs great and never had a problem.
I have 2009 sonata and it has ****two hundred thousand**** miles on it
My aunt has a 2008 hyundai sonata with 200,000 problem free
I still have my 2004 Elantra gt with 150k mi.
« Hyundais before 2006 were junk » Bro u forget Hyundai Tiburon
KIA cars were all junk before 2012. My 2006 KIA Rio has 175k and its plagued with many electrical problems and more. The ECM fried at 150k miles (still runs okay), catalytic converter blew up at 100k miles, timing belt exploded and destroyed the cylinder head (cost $1,800 to fix), automatic transmission was sluggish and has sloppy shifting since it was brand new, and the radio and a/c climate controls are glitchy and they change the settings on there own. I still have the car; I am just waiting for something major to fail so i can have a reason to replace it.
Used to be a Kia hater. Then I found out the Kia’s have been making pretty reliable cars for at least the past 10 years. Confirmed by JD Powers and consumer reports long-term testing. Bought a 2016 Sedona SX fully loaded. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned. I’ve had less trouble and warranty repairs done to the car in its first two years than my 2007 RAV4 and 2012 MDX.
Maxfli82 I bought my 2011 Kia Optima with 30k miles on it and I just hit 130k with zero problems. I surprised myself it's still running in perfect shape. And I Uber in Vegas with it all day everyday in the city.
@@noellopez9159
The only problem I've had is not being right down the street from a dealer and now recalls that were free to fix being 300 dollars. Namely the part in the steering column that rattles all the time.
Really your quoting JD power. Not saying Kia is a bad car but every manufacturer can point to JD power awards because they pay for them
@@noellopez9159 I'm coming to vegas this week. I'll call uber and look you up to see if you're telling the truth
@@jmmzz8941 consumer reports also praises Kia and Hyundai.
Own 2003 and 2007 Honda pilots with 242k and 153k miles, respectively. Great vehicles and still rolling.
2016 Honda Accord EX 2.4L CVT with 26k miles. Broke down with bad high pressure fuel pump for direct Injection engine. First Honda I've ever owned that had to be towed to the dealer.
@Skyelord Phoenix It's my first CVT and honestly it's not bad. You have to get used to the peculiar operation. We routinely average 35mpg combined on the Accord so if that is the tradeoff, I'm ok with it.
I'm just frustrated that after owning Honda vehicles for over 25 years, this was the first one to break down on me. With the oil dilution issue on their turbo engines, my eyes are starting to drift towards other manufacturers when I put my 2003 Pilot out to pasture this summer. My confidence in Honda has been severely damaged.
I wish they would offer manual for every vehicle. I just came from Cuba and every vehicle there including buses are manual transmission.
@@seanlacroix I grew up rowing a manual tranny on my 1994 Acura Integra as my first vehicle. I put over 120k miles on that before I had to sell it for a bigger vehicle bc my son was born. I literally shed a tear thinking about how much I miss her....*damn* here we go again. 😢😭
@Skyelord Phoenix Yeah I saw Toyota's recent recall. This is the first Honda where I don't have full confidence, that given my usual meticulous maintenance schedule, it will hit 200k miles. Hell, it was barely 27k miles before it completely died on me while driving on the highway. Luckily still under warranty but what happens when it expires later this year?
This is why I'm actually considering a Kia Telluride...maybe a lease to check it out first.
@Skyelord Phoenix Correct. I believe Hyundai still uses conventional automatic transmissions in most of their vehicles. Honda uses CVTs on most of their vehicles. FYI...Toyota is having major problems with their "new" CVT engine.
Car rental companies in Australia buying Hyundai's now for years. Owners saying they are very reliable.
My dad has a Kia Sportage with 300,000 miles on it and that car is still running strong. I think it depends on how well you take car of the car.
He must've got a good one
Absolutely right. Preventive maintenance is the key.
I have Kia Optima GT 2016 and have done 150,000 km. Run like brand new. Only done is regular service.
I'll always be a Honda guy, but I personally think the modern Kias and Hyundais are very impressive vehicles I think. Fun fact about Hyundai/Kia, they're actually an older company than Honda.
Japan > korea... some of these companies are crazy old, did u know nintendo was founded in the 1700s, they made playing cards lol
@@Wildboy789789 Wow!!!
@@Wildboy789789 From what I've seen, Hyundai was founded in 1944 and Honda in 1946.
@Tamaz Okruashvili Yeah I know that. I just think it's an interesting fact people may not expect.
Honda is better than Kia
I’ve heard Hyundai said in 3 different ways now,
Yun-die
Hun-day
Hun-die
Don't forget Hi-Yun-Die
In my countey most people say "Hondai"
Lemon
Hondayay
Diehonda
2008 Honda Accord 2.4 liter. 240,000 still runs perfect
Yep brilliant engines those 2.4s. Great balance of power and economy. Mine's just ticked over 200.000. I do 500 kms a week. Never had a problem. Still a beautiful looking car too.
Brantley Combs Ha that’s Nothin. 2005 Accord Coupe 6MT-3.0 Liter V6 253,000 Still Running
@@DWILSONBR-NOLA lemme tell ya how much 240,000 miles ain't nothing .. but yes do celebrate your measly 13,000 miles leg up.
Brantley Combs one of the best engines ever
Brantley Combs HONDAS ARE THE BEST
I have a Kia Forte standard transmission with 88,000 flawless! I run full synthetic oil. Best MPG 49. 38 avg. I love it.
Jerry Rosales What year? I’m planning on getting a 2017 based of ratings and price differences.
@@tanicwhisper0647 2016 forte 4 door
Which trim did you get?
2016. Great car
paid $11.500
According to consumer reports and JD Powers for the last three years Kia has been ranked higher than Honda in reliability. This Korean brand is not messing around anymore. It will take time for the public to notice but I think it’s slowly happening.
consumer reports and jd powers. that’s ur issue right there
@@MCatwar I am sure Kia has improved since they first started out but, have to agree with you the whole jd powers thing thats the issue. I personally have always been a toyota person but, I wouldnt even think this should be a debatable topic. I wouldnt say necessarily that I would take Honda over a Toyota but, to me a Honda should be just as good as a Toyota even though I am Toyota in this case of the video I'd definitley pick the honda anyday over the kia
@@elevatorman427 yeah I would too honestly. we have an 08 optima and so far it's doing alright? I guess? it's not blowing anything out of the water, but nothing serious has happened. fuel filler door stays open, passenger side door handle broke, rats ate the wiring harness for the transmission, one of the shocks was making a weird noise (shock mount?) but idk, my dad's abused the car and it's still running and driving strong. granted it's only got 80k miles on it, but my dad went 4 years (24,000 miles) on a firestone conventional oil change and it was fine.
@@MCatwar well I dont care what you drive glad your optima is still running good thats pressing your luck just a bit going four years even if he did just drive 24 thousand miles over four years still pressing your luck to go that long on any oil to me even if you were using synthetic. Glad though nothing happened to it. We got a 2011 sienna 176 thousand miles on it purchased it used two years ago with 95 thousand since then the biggest majority of the miles added to it have been strictly highway miles. Noticed here the other day a part of the fuel filler door hinge broke on it door will shut pretty good but, sometimes you have to work it open. Everything is going to have its flaws there are good and bad with all of them though.
@@elevatorman427 oh haha yeah i know 24k on an oil change is really stupid. he didn't wanna listen to me when i told him otherwise though lmao
I have a civic 1999, 1.5L I'm very happy 😎😎😎😎
Mine 98 civic 457,000 miles still runs
I miss my 1997 honda civic coupe 5spd it had 189k no major problems at all 😢
Civic... civica... cilvica... celvica.. celica :) there we go I fixed your car
My 2001 Kia Optima has 210,000 miles still kickin
My 1994 honda accord is still running great!
Your less than 4 thousand subs away from the big 2
@Don Boss if you really want to know what a mistake is, just ask your parents after all they created you.
cdude100 I ask my parents similar depressing questions, my dad told me once: "If you hadn't come, someone else would've in your place."
You're...
*you're
@@Y_hass
You're both wrong
😂
Civic broke long before our Elantra. Elantra surpassed it by 50,000 (300,000+) before my wife got tired of driving an old car and we traded it in.
Richard Carrington what about maintenance costs?
Elantras are underrated beasts. Try to get your hands on an '07-'08. It was the final run of the bulletproof 2.0L engine before they went to a lighter weight version, direct injection, and turbo-charging. Jury is still out on the longevity of those more highly stressed newer engines, but the 07-08 Elantra is every bit as good as a Civic or Corolla. 250k miles is nothing if you bother doing minimal maintenance, especially oil changes and timing belts every 100k.
Wait wait. I didn't mean oil changes every 100k miles too lol. That's just asking to be stranded. I was talking about the timing belt -- it's an interference engine. Oil changes? 3500 to 4000 miles.
@@RavishingBeyond 2017 to present Elantra's have 2.0 liter MPFI engines. Sport has 1.6 turbo. The 2.0 will probably hold up well. I wish cars did not have direct injection just to give negligible MPG increase.
Only time will tell how well the new Kias hold up. Imo the older Hondas were tanks. I used to have a 92 Accord back in high school and I would always do burnouts, handbrake turns, clutch drops and hard acceleration. It had 260,000 miles before I sold it. Never gave me any issues.
I have a 99 Honda CRV, 260,000KM (not miles. KM)
A 92 accord EXR full load with 160,000KM (100,000milez)
And a tastefully modified 90' civic SI hatch with a 92 gsr engine B17 in it.
I have virtually zero interest in newer cars. My old Honda's are perfect for my lifestyle.
Bought a 1500 Hyundai accent for my wife,she liked the color, that was in 1995,this car was outstanding,sold it in 2015 ,only ever needed,standard service,tyres etc,I am impressed.
I had a Kia for 17 years. Loved it. It cost me 3000$ to drive it for 17 yrs. 4x4 stick shift.
Mileage?
280,000
@@dobermadd 280,000
@@deltadawngreen7165 nice 👌🏻
It doesn’t run on gas?
my wifes driving a 2004 hyundai sonata with 2,7 v6-never had any trouble.
That's because they're using Kia engines now.
Back in the early 2000's they used crappy Mitsubishi motors.
@@neitomonoma8457 crappy like the 2.0 beta from early 2000s based on mitsubishi engines that lasted forever?
When it gets older, well enough said...
I have a 2014 KIA Optima and of all of the cars I have ever owned, this one hands down, is by far the best vehicle I have ever driven.
Bought a 2001 Kia Sportage in 2003 with 21,000 . Today I have 255,050 miles almost no repairs!
Almost?
@@Ammut6 I wonder how many times the transmission was rebuilt
@@josem1596 "only two repairs! Rebuilt transmission and a new engine!"
My kia spectra has 281000 and still runs great.
Ya thats one in a million kia is cheap korean crap!
2011 Optima Lx 6 speed 180k miles daily driver here. Original head gasket, clutch, everything. Gas, tires, and oil.
Last week l saw the optima 2001 my mom used to have... Saw some bad smoke coming out of him need some headgasked maybe? .... But still running. . . .
After reading everyone's comments kia wins.. I might just get one..thanks
Forte5 GT
I have a kia got it salvaged from a right side front end accident. Never had a mechanical issue runs great and awesome gas mileage.
I might get a 2021 Kia Forte
We are on to our 3rd Kia never had an issue. Had a Honda CRV no issues but very expensive to service etc. so we will buy Kias from now on.
I came from a crv to a 2016 certified sorento and I've been missing out being loyal to Honda . My crv had alignment problems that could never be fixed. It became a money pit, due the the shotty alignment I had to keep rotating tires, turning and buying rotors and brake pads. Sucks, all of my cars have been Honda also. Honda is not what it use to be.
Same here... from Honda to KIA and happy.
@Roland Waites point taking I have 240k on my 01 Acura and she still here. Starts right up and drive the same as it did from when I first got it.
Had a 2011 Forte EX we traded for a 2013 Sportage EX AWD and never looked back. Over 100k and never had a problem (yet). Love the Kia’s so much we bought a 2016 Soul. Sure Honda makes good cars, they make good bikes and lawn mowers too.
Kia and Hyundai have established themselves as real contenders in the industry. If my memory serves me correctly Scotty put out a videos on transmissions where he claimed that Honda has had problematic transmissions. Haven't heard any negatives about Korean brand transmissions. I know happy Hyundai owners with 150,000+ miles and still going strong. I also know owners of Honda cars who have been screwed over by Honda dealers.
Yeah his kia dealer rant really doesnt make sense. It all depends on the dealer in your area.
Of course honda is better but kia has improved massively you have to give them credit.
Meyoorony Meyoorony he mentions that in the video... but, he also mentions the service. Good luck with Hyundai.
Really! Does Honda have anything to compete with the Stinger.
@@zorbadog4452 NSX, Civic Type R, Acura TLX a-Spec. Honda has much more experience and heritage in motorsports, but the Stinger is still pretty impressive for being Kia's first attempt at making a sporty car.
@@cyberbully3704 None of those cars compete with the stinger
@@cyberbully3704 NONE of those are All wheel drive like the stinger is (in the package youd actually want to own the car ) also none of those have nearly 400hp like the kia does either... so NO they DONT compete w that
I've been a technician half my life and I've been watching this gentleman's videos for monthes and he is wrong as much as he is correct
@@aishiac7371 hi heres how I would sum it up..I own a Honda civic and my wife owns a Hyundai..I believe Honda is a more reliable vehicle but the Hyundai is still excellent with a better warranty. So if you dont put a ton of miles on your car I would say Hyundai because you are covered 10 years or 100,000 miles. If you put a lot of miles on your car buy the Honda with an extended warranty and you are good..hope I helped!
@@aishiac7371 oh and no matter what anyone tells you synthetic oil with regular oil changes and either of your choices will run forever..Amsoil, Pensoil Platinum, Eneos, are among the best, Mobil 1 and Castrol synthetic, and Royal Purple are just "ok" despite all the hype. Walmarts supertech synthetic is pretty darn good for the money..good luck and drive on!
Mike Robinson thank you. That definitely helped but Honda has a lifetime power train warranty. I think i am gonna go with the Hyundai though cause it is more economical. Thank you so much!
Aisha, buy the Honda!!!
@@mikerobinson1145 I'd trust a mechanic over a technician lol
I'm a MERCEDES BENZ TECH for about 20yrs and i bougt my wive a in 2004 a Kia Sorento she dosen't want to give up her Kia Sorento for a Mercedes and she loves it.
jose rodriguez so its a reliable investment? I gota get rid of my volvo xc90 2006. Bought it for 7k and spended another 7 in just 1 year. Turbo, transmision, engine failures, whels, turbo cooler or something like that. Problems problems problems. I am a huge volvo fan but if kia is reliable i might buy a 2011 kia sorento if its reliable after that many years? What do you think? I also prefer stick over auto. Bad thing is that i drive 4km total per day
My wife has her eyes on the new telluride lol.
@@benjaminstrmole1048 you need a car that's cheap to maintain and fix, European cars are expensive to fix. Stick to Japanese or Kia/Hyundai
Ernie Keto Fit im thinking about Kia or Honda suv
@@benjaminstrmole1048 bought my Kia Sorento in 2004 got 100ths miles the only thing i've done to it is the radiator, brakes which is normal and a high pressure hose for the power steering, i have to do the timing belt now but got 100ths mile on the belt.
I have a 2013 Kia Sorento SX with two hundred thousand miles and still running
Any problem? Im planing on selling my 2006 Volvo xc90. Money pit... Was thinking about Kia Sorento. How is it to drive? Maintainance cheap?
Never had a problem with our kia's. 10yr and 100,000 miles warranty. Cant beat it. @@benjaminstrmole1048
My 2012 Soul 1.6L has 143,000 and going strong.
Bryan Hansen im looking at 2010+ sportage/sorento. You have any experience?
I have a 2010 Forte ex with over 200k miles with zero issues. And I just bought a new 2019 Forte s. Had only a month, but im completely satisfied.
I worked for the company that designed that Kia Plant in Georgia. The management from Kia tried to get away with some shady/illegal things in building that factory. Despite being told several design features were required by federal building codes, they insisted that they didn't have to do that in Korea and they didn't want to pay for it in the USA. That was enough for me to never want to own a Kia/Hyundai.
diffieq sounds about right
@Grieg Ragen Last I checked the economy crashed with Bush in office and the stock market doubled under Obama. Enjoy your alternate reality.
@Grieg Ragen quite frankly you have no idea what you are talking about. National Fire Protection Code is written by engineers and fire professionals on a voluntary basis to save lives and protect property. It has nothing to do with politics.
@Grieg Ragen No, I'm not a sheeple that blindly marches to leftist or rightist diatribe. Worst recovery ever? 10 year expansion. Lol.
I have Kia forte 2012. Got through college and worked as an Uber with it. Very reliable and good gas mileage. Now still have it with over 160k miles. No problems at all. Just oil changes, gas, filters, sparkplugs at 100k, and tires. No timing belt because it has chain. I bought it used very cheap with 60k on it.
My 2009 Sportage still runs like a champ. Never any trouble. And the interior is still like new. I'm very happy... even after a life of driving only Honda's.
I like Honda, Hyundai and Kia, but as much as like sporty cars, I would stay away from the turbo charged versions of all three companies. They've all had issues, and longterm reliability is iffy!
unfortunately, Honda is going turbo across the board
7 months ago I brought second hand 2014 Kia Ceed SW 1.6CRDI 6speed manual for for 8000USD. Car had 128.000km on the clock only two owners, it looks like brand new inside and outside and it runs great, no error or any code...
After less then 2 months both front LED day running lights start to flicker and after week or so they both stop to working. I thought OK, big deal... I will replace them myself, how hard it can be.. BUT!
These KIA LED daylights are sealed inside of headlights and they can not be replaced separately! Basically you have to replace whole headlight!
In Kia service repair cost for replacing two front Headlights was 2400USD!!! CRAZY!
Luckily car was still under warranty and KIA agree to replace free of charge both headlights and other stuff that I reported: noise in rear left wheel bearing, driver seat-belt mechanism(it was sticking), cabin air fan blower(it had clicking noise when running)...
Cost for all that repairs was over 3200USD!! Almost half of the car value! Thank god that I had warranty!
In meanwhile when my Kia was at the service on those warranty repairs I was still driving my old 1991 Honda Accord 2.2L which has 225.000km on the clock and it runs perfectly, I never had problems with it and I brought it for 600USD years ago... Best buy ever made! My Honda was cheaper then my mobile phone that year and car passed last year inspection without a single error or glitch and it burns no oil. BTW, that day/night light bulb on my Honda cost 3 bucks to replace, cabin fan still runs nice even after 29 years as well seat-belt mechanism, wheel bearings etc... Everything still works great on my 29 year young Honda Accord Best car I ever owned :)
P.S. Something tells me that my 1991 Honda Accord will outlast my 2014 Kia Ceed SW :D
Is the Stinger a bad car?
So true, turbos! 😲😲😲😲
@@NexiTech Cars in old days are much reliable than this days no matter what car brand
Im a 2016 kia forte owner
Almost 3 years with it, so far it has taken 55k+ miles like nothing and it gives me 50 mpg on the highway
Great car
Bazán lmao, I have 98 civic with a million miles. Cmon a 2016 is anything suppose to go wrong in 3 years?
@@hugoandrewmembreno734
Great
If your civic was my kia, it would have just reach the end of its warranty.
*'So far'*
I think so, buy something from gm and you'll see
My 2017 forte 6 speed manual is getting 46.2mpg no lie I absolutely love it!!
@@hugoandrewmembreno734 1million.sure
2006 kia Rio5, 487,000 km and still worked perfect the day I sold it
and it is one of the unsafest cars out there, probably the worst....
I don't remember the year but it was about 10 years ago this the Kia Rio was rated the worst car you could buy.
I've had my hyundai elantra for 18 years. In that time a couple of problems but standard wear and tear. Just changed the clutch last year. I'm definitely a fan.
Honda vs Kia... Didn't have to even watch the video for that answer... My neighbor and I both bought new cars at about the same time 6 years ago. Mine is a Honda Accord, hers, a Kia Optima. First few years were about the same, then started noticing she would be driving a rental car ever so often while hers was being repaired. Now she has a new car. A Honda...
She has the handicap of being a woman...
Hyundai and / or Kia is a good lease / loaner/ rental car,
2 - 3 years. intending on keeping the car......honda or Toyota , of course.......
A transmission shop owner told me Honda was a great car if you stay away from the cvt transmission.
@@kenjohnson7214 newer ones or early 2000s ones? I know the early 2000s honda autos were guaranteed to go out.
@@jakehunter3434 He told me to avoid CVT transmissions in general.
always been a Honda fan but now own a Hyundai. very nice quality
In the hunt for months for a certain Lexus, but my first eye was an Elantra. They're killer and best yet, easy to work on.
Ok, I had both. I first had a Civic and it had 450,000 miles and then got stolen in 2012. Parts ripped out, it was a shame because engine and transmission where going strong. So I went to look to buy 2012 Accord but during that time, you needed to buy the EX-L (top of line) to have hands free Bluetooth and satellite radio. They also were expensive, $30K. So I got a Hyundai Sonata, they had a base car with leather (they were trying a local company) and it came standard with Bluetooth and satellite for only $21,700. I drove a lot, a year ago I took my car in for taillight issue and just mentioned that engine ran rough at times but rare. They ended changing my engine out under warranty even though I had 118,000 miles at no cost! I got a great deal with both cars so I don't think you could go wrong based on my years of experience with both brands.
Great information thanks!
Bailey M. Good deal ...
Its because those engines caught on fire lucky yours didnt it wad under recall
I owned a 2007 Honda Accord EX 3.0 L 246HP and now I own a 2014 kia Forte 2.0 172 HP.
I paid $650 a month for the accord, now I pay $398 for the forte.
The accord transmission faulted right after the warranty expired.
The Kia have been abused way more and I haven’t had any issues whatsoever.
Honda was a quieter peppier ride but not a huge difference.
The Forte came with a 5 years bumper to bumper warranty which I never used
Forte wins by a landslide
Toyota bettA
My family's 2008 Kia Sedona now has 160,000 miles and no major issues. I definitely reccomend buying them specifically the Optima.
Just to say my Kia borrego v8 has 250,000 not an issue. Outside bad shock.
2012 Kia Soul 145,000 miles and hasn't missed a beat. Love it. I know people with Honda and have engine issues and same with Kia. Take care of them and don't abuse them and they will last.
Nice ! I drive 2009 genesis V6
185,000+ miles no issue
I also have a V8 Borrego. Mine has only 145k. Glad to hear it will apparently make it to at least 250k no problem. Shooting for way more than that, though.
2014 Kia Cadenza SXL, 176,000 miles. I floor it everywhere and I drive like a maniac😂. Oil is changed using full synthetic Walmart SuperTech oil and a K&N oil filter every 5,000 miles. I do all services myself, my car has never been serviced at the dealership since I drove it away.
I prefer Honda, they have been reliable from day one. Kia has came a long way but Honda has always been reliable, so for me it’s a no-brainer
Wow since Honda made their first car in 1948 they were bulletproof? Or just in your lifetime?
Toyota is the bullet proof not Honda, Honda is one of the worse car out there if you don't know. But Toyota has been mess up lately...
They used to be reliable. Have a 2013 Honda CRV, bought new, 90,000 miles flawless. Bought a 2016 CRV Touring new. Gasoline goes in oil!! Look up "oil dilution for Honda CR-V"Honda wouldn't do anything, traded it in for new Toyota Highlander
Honda is one of the most reliable cars you could ever buy next to a Toyota, but at the end day people will just drive the car that they like the most.
Kia and Hyundai have come a long way. Still nowhere near a Toyota or Lexas
I worked at a Hyundai dealership. We had customers that ranged with their experience and opinion on their cars. Some loved it and had zero issues and some hated it and would never buy one again. I had a constructive conversation with a customer one time where he was telling me how good they are because they are so cheap compared to the Japanese competition but I realized no matter how you look at it, the extra money you pay for in a Honda/ Toyota you get back in resale, and the extra chunk of change you save buying Korean is "lost" in the lower resale; and then some actually cause they depreciate worse than the competitors. I have driven the entire lineup extensively, and by far Korean cars are better than American made junks, but id never buy one new. Honda's still drive better too. Fuel consumption goes the Koreans. I drove a sonata a fair distance two days in a row for work and my god the damn needle would not move. I was very impressed. Korean cars are good if you're the type of person that keeps a car for 5 years. Within 10 years from new you should be okay if you own it in that window. Build quality has improved but customers do complain about a lot of things still; things you'd never complain about on a Honda. They seem to forget that the reason these cars are somewhat cheaper than the competition is due to manufacturing cost saving. Funny enough, even though some staff drove Hyundai's themselves and some techs as well, most coworkers said "me buy a Hyundai? I just work here". That says a lot lmao
Say it with me Scotty, Sunday, Monday, Hyundai!
the Hyundai Genesis 5.0 R spec is a sick car, probably the best in its price range.. In fact all the genesis models are amazing
I used to have a 3.8L R-spec track with the Brembos and that car was.... brutal. So much torque and power😩
2007 honda accord. Has 285,000 miles and no oil leaks. I'll stick with Honda.
Do you think an 07 Accord with 65,000 miles for $8k would be a good deal? There's one at my local dealership but they want over $10k for it.
Ikr Honda is better than Kia
Ryan Littleton absolutely. I have a ford fusion 2016 with 110k miles and they are priced at $10k.. so if you can get a honda .. hell yes! As long as no issues of. Ourse
Ryan Littleton Seems like a good deal, but I think you could ask to pay a bit less. I bought my 2007 Accord with 26k miles for $8k 3 years ago to give you a point of reference. Only difference is that I bought mine from a private seller, not a dealer.
@@ryanlittleton5615 Like Scotty says, have a mechanic like him look it over!
By Scotty standards that is ringing praise of Hyundai/Kia.
Otherwise he'd have given them the Chevy treatment 🤣
Honestly, a Kia is probably better than a Chevy. At least they've been improving. GM is just going downhill in quality every year.
My 92 "KIA" Ford Festiva had 270,800 miles on it. Ran great! Just sold it. New owner will have many more years of use!
Been driving my 2011 sonata for 5 years now never been to the shop once just oil change and it has 180plus in it still drives like new, used to own a Honda but no more hyundai best for me
I had quite a few problems with mine 2011 sonata . Now at 86000 miles the engine has locked up ! At least it’s still under warranty and I didn’t had to fight for a new engine. Hyundai lived up to there warranty promise . But believe me I will sell it soon !!!
Love my 2014 kia sedona.i think scotty has a thing for honda lol
my 2010 Kia Magentis 2L has 223,000 miles in scotland...kia's last just aslong if you take care of a car
My first car was Hyundai Elantra for 400$, maybe after fifth owner, with 240 000 miles. That car running, and running, and running...
@@RPE-Official Did I ever say anything like that? Scotty was making it sound, as in most of his videos about Kia/Hyundai that they are crap, and he still says it that they are crap apart from new ones, my 9 year old Kia certainly isn't new considering the 2nd generation of the Magentis came out in 2006, I just got the facelift model which was the last Magentis before it became the Optima in Europe, more or less any car (bar a few that actually are absolutely horrible) can last 3-400,000 miles aslong as you're actually willing to spend some money in taking care of it, I'm not gonna lie now I'm wanting to change car within the next month or few months as I'm just wanting a car that's easy to modify, which for a Kia that's the downside, modifying it you won't be able to find a lot of parts to make it unique.
@@asimov64 These cars can go on forever, especially the diesel Engines used in the Hyundai's/Kia's of the 2000's to 2010's, the only problem I have had with my Kia was with the suspension and that was resolved quickly/cheaply
Edit: I also forgot to mention, they don't seem to rust either, 223,000 miles in Scottish weather and roads full of salt in the winter and it's not got a single patch of rust on the car, and underneath the car is very clean too for it's age, only a few brown dots
I believe this is what is known as anecdotal
But I've heard from one of my friends which is a mechanic. Korean car dealerships treat the customers really good.
What the fu🦄k? Where’d you hear that? Yea and my friend, which is a Jobless Everyday joe said that Chevy dealerships are better because of the dealerships building design!
My experience at Kia dealerships is very mediocre, where as when I would call or go in for one of my Honda’s the customer service was very good. However, my Optima SX turbo is leaps and bounds better and fast than any Honda I’ve ever driven or owned (which is quite a few) with a few performance parts and a tune my optima is making in excess of 343 brake horsepower aka: 299ish horsepower to the wheels as the power loss to the wheels is about 44 horsepower in many fwd cars. My Honda’s always ran well but even with modifications they just weren’t quick enough to make them much fun.
Probably because that’s the only way they have to get people to buy their cars
Jennifer Wyatt who wouldn’t take better performance at roughly the same price and reliability??
@@LuluSerenes1 Lol your probably stupid.I have a great paying job and still would never buy overpriced cars{luxury or cars not worth its price tag}.First of all KIA cars are easily better looking than any Honda,better value and has a lot more potential than a Honda.I mean you couldn't go wrong with the warranty.People who buy Korean cars buys them to be different than everybody else and the dealership i go to service my optima,does a good job without asking questions.
Latest J.D. Power has the Hyundai/Kia rated #1 in brand Initial quality and significantly ahead of Honda. Both Elantra and Forte were also ahead of the Civic in Dependability ratings. Just sayin'.
J.D. Power is an advertising company... FYI... Consumer Reports is a better indicator. Yes, according to Consumer Report's Honda has been slipping in reliability. On that note Lexus and Toyota are still #1 and #2 in reliability ratings.
Also, initial quality reviews whether it's J.D. Power or otherwise are useless. Longterm beyond I drove it for a day, or a couple weeks, or even a couple of months. Well, if it can't last through an extended test drive it shouldn't be on any recommended list period.
J.D. Power is junk, I wouldn't trust what they say
OccasionallyEvil still say. WHy KIA. So sad. Kia top 1 top 3 car now right now.
They can rate whatever they want, THINK WITH YOUR OWN BRAIN!!!
I have a manual Kia Soul 2010 1.6L and its currently at 145k and running smooth so far (knock on wood). Hope it keeps goin hahah
Those things go for pretty cheap! There was a Kia soul with 20k miles for seven grand! Practically a new car. If you don't mind the manual trans you'll save $$$
To be honest I expect most modern cars to make it to the 200k mark. After 200k is the real test of quality imho.
Just change your engine every 3 or 4 miles 😁and you'll be good lol
good luck your due for an engine soon. sorry to say. good luck get a Honda.
@@leadnsteel1428 Do you ever feel like your driving across town on a lawnmower?
I've owned both brands (a Civic Si, an Accord (6MT), an Integra GSR, a Sonata, an Elantra, a Sedona, and a Odyssey). The only problems I ever had with any of the cars was with the gears starting to grind (syncros) on the Si and the GSR, and with the Si/GSR engines burning some oil at VTEC.
I'd factor in owner "abuse" or "lack of maintenance" as a major factor in how long any car lasts.
“Yun-die”
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ok
That's how its pronounced. Millennials pronounce the H because they weren't around in the 70s when they were pronounced yun-die...
@@SatanIceCream Not how you pronounce it in Korean.
@@SatanIceCream sorry but people in parts of the world will pronounce it very different and think they are right. I am an older millennial I will pronounced it with a H. Personally I think it's weird but I don't want to think they are wrong.
Hyundai had a commercial a few years ago where they said Hyundai rhymes with Sunday
Scotty is the only one I've heard to pronounce Hyundai correctly. Only in north America, because we always have difficulty pronouncing Asian names, is the company's name pronounced "Hun-Day." That was established when Hyundai first began importing their cars to the USA in the 80's. The same thing happened with Japanese manufacturer Nissan, which Yanks wanted to pronounce similar to "Missin';" so the company called them Datsuns here for many years, although even that got mispronounced.
Korean cars are like Japanese from the 90s. They have really came a long way.
Japanese cars from the 90’s are untouchable, the Supra, integra, rx7, sc300, Cressida, soarer, gtr, 3000gt, 240sx etc are better then cars made today practically
@@bradlyfan you sure got that right
korean cars are recalled all the time
@@abasabasabas8584 and the Japanese aren't 😂 they recall them all the time too!! Oh and another Japanese company (Takata) had one of the most massive recalls and they were deadly. Toyota while really good has had a massive amount of recalls!!
@@bradlyfan Don't forget the Evo and Subaru line up lol.
My nephew has a Kia Soul with 120k and has had no issues.
Honda makes a lot of engines for things other then cars ...... motorcycles, boats, air craft, etc.
William Prince but Hyundai makes ships too , even the big heavy vehicles
I own a 2016 KIA Optima SXL. Everything he said about KIA never happened to me. Any issues I had with my car were fixed 100% on 1 visit to the dealer. Oh, I had only 1 issue.
gagpatr How do you like your 2016 SXL? I have considered picking one up soon. Have you done anything to your car and what do you think of the Harmon Kardon sound system?
@@nigmosh65 I love my KIA, SXL. Full of power when I need it. There was 1 factory recall for a transmission software update. It was resolved when I had my oil change.
My car has a glass roof, satellite radio, lots of options including heated seats and air conditioned seats. Lane control, side mirror smart lane control smart auto speed control, auto high beam control, cameras front/back/ and both sides, blue tooth for phone and much much more. I will buy an SXL again.
289k on my 2011 Sonata. I am going to replace the front struts.
When are you going to replace me?
@@jose9th Akebono.
What kind of issues did u have? I’m thinking of buying a sonata 2019, are they reliable?
@@xqcpog7597 Replaced the rear shocks and front struts after 200k. Also replaced the right rear wheel bearing. It needs sway bar links now. Syntech 0-40 Belgium and Fram Ultra filter. It's beginning to use some oil now. Do for new plugs{first change) One axle boot has a small tear and will have to be replaced. The interior is good. The trunk lock cylinder corroded from no use or lube. It opens with the inside button. 291k. The trans is bullet proof.
eb1888 yea for 291k that’s nothing I’d say that’s definitely reliable thanks for the response and detailed answer I really appreciate it man
my 2011 Kia hasn't been to the dealer as of yet, no issues.
pushin steel I have a 2010 Kia Forte and no problems yet.
@Annie Northrup pepboys?
Mark Wildman me too! Still looks brand new as well.
Same. I have a 2010 kia forte and have only done oil changes and changed tires. Never had an issue with anything
What aabout oil changes
Trick question, the correct answer is Toyota, to be exact a Celica, a silver one, and 1994 is obviously the best year.
Absolutely. Pick the silver one only. Otherwise it won't work.
What about the red one?? I heard it is way better than silver.
@@mikefoehr235 yeah i know. The red ones have more horsepower but it won't last as long as the reliable silver color.
@@Nick-ko1tw ok...good to know...I know blue Toyotas are very reliable...i have had two blue one and they rock...my wires red one is real good to
No its the silver one, the paint seems to stay forever.
Wow, all the negative Kia/Hyunai is surprising for the later models. For 2018 and 19 they are top 10 for reliability where as Honda doesn't make it. I think they have surpassed Honda IMO. I recently went shopping with my son for his first new car. It came down to the 18 Civic Ex with the 174hp turbo, 18 Mazda 3 2.5L 186hp, 18 Hyundai Sport 201hp Turbo,. He picked the Hyundai, Mazda was 2nd and Honda 3rd. The Honda interior fit and finish was not even close. Mazda was excellent but power was the weakest. The Hyundai IMO and his was by far the best of the 3. 25K sticker but he walked out for 19K loaded, leather, moon roof..... Honda would not deal. Mazda was motivated (clearing out the 18's for the new 19's) 8 months later no regrets. Remember Samsung electronics in the 90's was the bargain basement stuff now where's Sony? Top five manufacturers by Consumer reports for reliability was Lexus 1, Toyota 2, Mazda 3, Subaru 4, Kia 5, Hyundai 10, Honda not in the top 10.
You can say that if the consumer reports however they’re too early to even know the true reliability of these cars. Toyota nowadays is crap yaris is even rebadged mazda speed 3. Kia just like hyundai is garbage you get orobably 4 years down the road and they start to fall apart. Now you see the honda accord it may have a shitty warranty however my honda accord from 2004 it’s 455k miles by only changing oil and i just rebuilt the bottom end. Just cause someone will give you a better warranty and people that don’t know about cars will put a 5 star on anything. Honda being the most expensive from these
@@gigabateman9460 newer Kias are much better. My grandfather has a 2015 Kia Sorento and 4 years later is hasnt had a single problem. Get out of the 90s. Meantime, new Honda CR-Vs are diluting oil..
You day that about the crv, however the sorento and stinger are good cars now look at the rest of them veloster trash, elantra trash and it goes down. I’m a mechanic and it’s sad to say that you see a 2019 kia or hyundai in the shop
I didn’t even know Honda’s could break.
Only if they have automatic or CVT transmissions.
Had a used Honda Accord 1988, a huge money pit, every month I was putting money in it and another stuff broke up, ended up wasting double what it cost me to buy in repairs, last five years I just stopped fixing it and drive it til it die, sold it for scraps for about a fifth of the original price I paid and less than 10% of what I spent on it, in my country Honda parts were stupid expensive, more than BMW
Not only that it kills. Honda's takata air bags killed so many people honda almost went bankrupt recall replacing them. They are still replacing them, so many to replace will take forever. Stay away from honda.
@@germanher7528 But it's over 30 years old. No mechanical products are made to last to infinity!
Johnisour,
I didn't even know the plural of Honda, has an apostrophe.
Our first Sonata (2007 Limited) we got 292,000 trouble free miles
and sold it. Purchased new 2017 Sonata Limited and happy so far.
Easily $10K cheaper than comparable equipped Honda or Camry.
The perception of Hyundai/Kia is somewhat better in Australia than in the US. The two Koreans combined were only second to Toyota for 2018 sales. Honda was in 10th spot. Different models sold in Australia compared to the US. i30 is Hyundai's best seller down under and the perception of the local Korean brands' dealers is generally better.
I own both kia and Honda cars. Both are equally reliable. Honda's specs and paintwork sux. Hope they improve.
This might be true for the first 5 years. After that, Hondas are more reliable, without question.
Jeremy D nope my 02 Elantra is 17 years old with 328,00 miles original engine and transmission ac compressor there about the same
@@jayboo704 recently, a delivery lady in USA reached a million km using her elantra. Hyundai gifted her a new elantra.
@@jayboo704 that's not common. Honda's are on another level in terms of reliability. Their engines are better than Toyotas
Lots of you guys are dense. At my repair shop, we get more Hondas with fluid leak problems, check engine issues, etc. than those of the Korean trio.
LOL.....I’m sure
Cuz ain’t no body be having kias
TheDrummingXbox360 quit lying...
Maybe noone owns Kias in the first place because they're lemons
@@velo16441 hahahahahahahahahahaha tampa bay, the epicentre of civilisation
2004 Hyundai Getz with 1.1 4cyl Engine, runs smooth, has an AC that still works, was used and abused, no CEL on whatsoever and has such a good gas mileage that I want to get one of these.
KIA/Hyundai won me as a customer, other than regular maintenance and other fluid changes and belts and a set of new brakes a few years ago, nothing else. Even the suspension is still like it came from the factory.
At least they nailed that model perfectly. Small reliable daily driver that is cheap to run and maintain.
IMO I count them as reliable as 90’s Toyota and Honda.
Many Uber drivers use Hyundai and Kia cars. This is something to keep in mind when bying a used one.
Many are rentals too.
Yeah, in my country, India, hyundai is much better than honda
@@roh6529 Because it cheap and India like the cheap car...
2012 Kia Optima had one sensor act up at 4000 miles, replaced under warranty been flawless since then .....looking at 120,000 miles
What are the symptoms of a sensor messing up?
Alyssa Lynn different things. Car can cut off while driving. Or long crank, etc.
One man's experience: I only buy new cars, and only keep my cars for 100,000 miles. I've been buying cars for 50 years. I've owned 2 Hondas and 3 Toyotas. I've owned one Kia. My favorite car over the 50 years of driving was my 2001 Kia Rio Cinco. It's the one car I wish I still had.
How long does it take you to reach 100k?
@@Ammut6 When I was working, about 4 years. Now that I'm retired, it'll take about 25 years! The Kia was 9 years old when I traded it.
@@avlisk this doesnt seem like a bad idea....i bought my second car in 2011 with 37000 on it. Its at 116000 now. I like the idea because it'll eliminate a lot of high mileage repairs in the future
@@Ammut6 That was my thinking, too. When Kia and Hyundai came along with the 100,000 mile warranty, it got me to shop those brands, and I was pleasantly surprised. The money you'd be spending for repairs after 100,000 miles, you put into a new car, and just having a new car is always fun.
So you take the initial depreciation hit. I love people like you when I buy used cars.
I have a kia. I’ll see what happens at 400,000 miles. I’ll show him
Jeremy Baker as long as you change the oil every 3000 miles.
wayne mcclory definitely. I use synthetic so every 5000
Update: the Kia broke down
themagicbanana sucks for you
Roland Waites not really. My buddy has an old spectra. 2001 and it still runs good. No problems he said
I remember back in the 70s and 80 when if you say you want to buy a Honda or Toyota you get laughed at. You want to buy a Japanese Sh*&T box instead of a Chevy or Ford? Are you crazy? I bought a 2018 KIA new and I tell you those 2 companies came a long long way. Don’t forget Toyota and Honda old models were junk also. Really didn’t get good until mid 90s
Ahmad Ghosheh they were already good in the 80s
The 1987 Acura Legend and Integra were absolutely wonderful cars. Even my 1982 Accord was a decent car, although a little slow. The small CRX from the 80’s is absolutely legendary and without equal to this day. The Preludes from the 80’s were pure dreams!!!
Toyota's best decade was in the 80's and early 90's.
@@f181234 , If you remember most of the Honda in the 80's had rust issues, I know cause I had to fix my share of them....... and I'm a BIG Honda fan.
For Kia/Hyundai to be even put in the same sentence as Honda tells you they have come a very long way.
Good point.
@Roland Waites scottys whole reason for existence is to have cars that last 3.4 million miles . which was great in 1953. now days no one cares about their shitty disposable cars except poor people and no one cares about them anyway so.....
So? They have still got light years to go to get anywhere near to the quality of Honda.
@@cjewe1z so? totally true but no one cares . thats why hyundai is on track to become the largest motor company in the world and has long eclipsed honda
We have both. 2016 Accord sedan v6 and a 2017 Sorento AWD V6. The Kia has had less wrong with it for sure. I would say the build quality and fit/finish of the Kia is better than the Accord. Dealer experience has been a wash: both have been great so far. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Kia if it made sense. Same with Honda.
My grandpa has the 2015 Sonata 2.0T with 150k on it with no issues. He had a 2009 3.3v6 sonata with 250k on it the which was pretty trouble free. I owned a 2014 kia forte koup with 80k on it 1.6T no problems and now I have a 2020 forte Gt and there quality has improved so much since 2014 even and they have proven to be reliable and dependable. For less money
My accord 2003 has more than 450k and still work like clock 😎
I used to have a 2004 and that was a nice car!
Honda is better than Kia
That ticking must drive you nuts on the highway!
I also have that generation Accord with a manual transmission. I kid you not when I tell you it will drive me through a nuclear fallout and back!
@@supersabrosinho I have 205,000 miles on my 2007 Accord manual, and my dad has 280,000 miles on his 2003 Accord V6
My girlfriend has a 2000 civic with 255,000 miles on original motor and transmission. Still runs like a champ
Kirby Walker my 2008 kia optima has 198,000 miles and still runs great, they are not that bad
@@salvadordeleon9393 Kia is alright. But bad comparison dude, your car is 8 yrs newer than that honda. Do an update 8 yrs from now and then we'll talk.
Kirby Walker it’s pretty much still brand new. Love a good Honda Civic
@@Whiteandsonsgarage me too brother
@@salvadordeleon9393 sounds like it's been a good car to you. Enjoy it, might get another hundred thousand out of it
People don't buy cars with the intention to keep them for a long long time. We are in the generation of the must upgrade complex.
Not I, still have my 08 Chevy Cobalt I got in 09
Both Kia and Honda makes better cars than Modern Day nissans and newer Volkswagens
My '97 Hyundai Accent had 348,000 miles on it when i sold it.
you sold it? how could someone buy an Accent with 348K miles on it?
I think I'm just going to stick to my 94 Cellica
@@Larry_Kabberga Actually, It was part of my trade. Always wondered if it just went to the scrap yard. Tho it still ran good, it had ALL KINDS of issues.
@@Larry_Kabberga. I would love to have that guy as my salesman 😁
davekintz what did you do with the $5 you got for it?
Kia offers 7 yr unlimited warranty, Honda can't beat that with 3yr 100k kms
Its awesome for Uber
Hey wannabe taxi driver, real cab drivers own a Prius. Good luck with your turd Kia.
Scotty,
I completely disagree with you. I owe a 2012 Hyundai Elantra and 2016 Acura RDX. Both cars were burchsed NEW, and oh my God that Acura been to the shop a lot! With only 30k. Honda/Acura quality is no longer like it use to be; however Kia/Hyundai quality keeps on going up every year. my Hyundai Elantra now has 125k and it has been to the shop only once. The reason why I bought an Acura in the first place for my wife, is because like everyone who buys Honda/Acura they want a good reliable car... but Wow that's no longer the case. To make this a short story, they they dont build them like they use to.
Ramez have you tried going to school?