Sim 3D Fanatec Rumble Motors & Wind Sim Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2021
- Checking out the Sim 3D upgraded Fanatec V3 rumble motors and wind sim kit!
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A great tip from a few of you to remove the white connectors from the original motors is to pop the pins out by pressing the little tabs in that secure them, great shout fellas thanks! :)
i was struggling to understand settings in simhub for wheel lock/slip - thanks so much for detailed explanation and sharing your settings
About speed up or real time building/manual changes:
I think it's important to see people struggling and figure things out. Kids only see people be successful at first try and so they get demotivated if they fail once.
But especially to bring this amazing hobby to new people they have to learn to struggle and became better by solving things.
It's basically my playstyle in dirt rally.
Thanks mate! :)
@@KarlGosling I figure some of this will come down to individual viewers, and even then be different depending on the video. At the end of the day, if part of a video is boring to a viewer, they can just skip or speed up that part, so I wouldn't worry too much about it, as long as the videos don't turn into 3 hour long unedited livestreams! Adding timestamps so people can jump to the next section more easily might make sense if you're worried about losing people in detail.
Thanks for a great review, Karl!
I can give you, and anyone wondering, a tip regarding the removal of the original rumble motors. I found that the cable pins are actually quite easy to remove from the white connectors which should be the easiest way to get them out, if you want to keep the cables intact.
The pins are exposed on the side of the white connector. On the very back of the pins, toward the cable, they stick up a bit against the white plastic which keeps the pins in place. Use a small screw driver to push there while pulling on the cable, or press down on the pin and at the same time push it back so the pin gets under the white plastic, and then they should slide out from the white connector quite easily. Then you can route the cable back through the pedal set and lastly just put the pins back into the connector again, they should just pop in place.
Remember to take note/a picture of the polarity before removing the cables (red and black) from the connectors so you can put them back in the same way.
I never really tried the rumble motors on my V3's as one of them fell apart when I mounted the extension brackets for the pedal faces. I have since received a new rumble motor bracket from Fanatec so I think I need to give them a try as I might be interested in these upgraded ones.
Good tip thanks mate! :)
karl my good man ,no speed up,no montage,keep it realtime and keep it real as you allways do,thats how we will emulate it at home and hopefully get the same results.your vids have helped build my whole rig and its grafting fine!
I didn't realise how much I like my rumble motors till I played WRC 10
Which isn't supported yet.
Really miss the feedback.
Great bit of kit
I've got this exact kit from Sim3D running on my Meca Cup 1 pedals & find it a brilliant addition to my setup. I race in VR all the time and the wind sim is an absolute godsend in helping me keep cool, as well as adding that extra bit of immersion to the racing. The motors on the pedals have become second nature and have really helped me to both get faster as well as more consistent. Cracking product & Calvin has been really helpful whenever I've needed some assistance.
Thats great to hear mate, I'm also really enjoying having them now too! Was always gutted the V3 ones were so poor.
Before I started sim racing I kept wondering why so many people had wind setups, since you aren't going to feel the wind on your face in most driving situations. Once I did, and had to set up a fan blowing right at me, I started to understand. :D I can see it also gives some physical feedback that, while not fully realistic, is a substitute for some of the sensations of speed/movement you'd get in a real car that aren't easily simulated in a stationary cockpit or even a motion rig. My only fear is that if I set this up, I'd end up driving faster than I should just to try to keep cool, lol.
@@LeoDavidson Just received my SIM 3d wind kit, did you use any guide to set it up with SIM hub? Looks like it's really well made, but Calvin forgot to put the power supply in the box, so I have to wait impatiently to use it 😄
@@KarlGosling Why do you consider the V3 pedals poor as i have just spemt 350 nicker on those, and the mods to boot...? Did i waste my money..? 🤨🤥
Thanks for this video Karl, I found the upgraded motors for the V3 by accident and I've been searching for any feedback anyone had. This cinched it for me!
Thank you for an honest review, really enjoyed watching it and seeing it all raw rather than cut to make everything seem easy and perfect like most other videos.
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
Great video! The connector part that you could not get through is way easier than you think: you can remove the pins from the small connector by pressing down on the visible metal parts and then plug them back in when you pulled the cable out. It's that easy, just like with fan connectors. :)
What amazes me most as a non SIM racer is that a (on the surface) relatively simple rally game actually outputs that much telemetry data. Impressive
Yeah it shows just how much physics is being processed to make it a simulator rather than an arcade style game doesn't it! :)
I prefer you waffling on because it gives us a better idea of what is going on and what to expect if we purchase these items. Even if I am not interested in the product I am interested in your view of it. I like the way you explain things.
Thank you mate, appreciated! :)
Thanks for highlighting Sim 3D Karl, great video review as always. I have the Fanatec CSL pedals that don’t have rumble motors as standard, so was amazed to see that Sim 3D even supply retrofit motors for these pedals. I think this type of product benefits from a more in depth review without any skipping.
Excellent thanks!
Thank you for making this video. It was very helpful.
No worries!
Thankyou Karl for your prompt response, much appreciated man. You forgot to give me some price details that you are aware of? I'd love to have a pint with you and Mrs, i think we'd have a lot to talk about, and a right bubble. Your a true Geezer and says it how it is. I like that. Thankyou.
That is a good a 3D print job.
Didn't take note of which pedal plug came out of which socket, good job you have the video for reference 😂
I think they are marked on the board?! But yeah if not I'll be watching my own video again! lol
Hi Karl you can pick the cables out of the white plug you can normally press a little clip in in the connectors in the plug hope this helps Tony
Yes mate you can, I thought about this afterwards! :)
@@KarlGosling Another great vid Karl
I like using my V3 pedals but every aspect of disassembling any part of them is such a ballache it's like Fanatec designed them that way on purpose, despite themselves selling two separate upgrades, as well as the built-in pedal face adjustments and replacements, that require you take bits of them apart. Broke multiple tools just trying to get the pedal faces off as they use so much loctite. Totally agree with you that the stock motors are too weak to feel most of the time, too. Sometimes I notice it and wonder WTF it is, it's so rarely felt. OTOH, they do work well, and they look great, and my only complaint about using them is that the widths and positions aren't very adjustable for left-foot braking.
Put the alt pedal faces on my clutch and brake but ended up stripping one of the screws on my accelerator due to the locktite so I'm stuck with the default on that one.
@@ComaTwins It really is crazy how tightly they are on. I sprayed WD40 and left them a week (after giving up) and still couldn't get them off until I switched from screwdrivers to a ratchet wrench, bought specially for this (never needed one before in my life). Not sure if it was the wrench, the WD40, or both, but I destroyed two screwdriver handles before that point, as they were weaker than the loctite! It's a ridiculously strong bond considering the pedals don't even need to be that tight and have to be taken apart to install first-party Fanatec hardware. Complaints can be found going back at least a year if not two but they haven't changed anything.
Woah! I'm glad I haven't had to take my pedal faces off! lol
@@KarlGosling FWIW, It's the same screw/nut you had to undo to swap the motors. If yours came off easy then the others are probably OK as well. The ones in sets shipped in the last year or two seem like they've been welded on!
New to your videos and really enjoy them...thanks!! You're one of the few guys I see using a big screen TV screen. Was curious if uve compared against an ultrawide. I've got a 49 inch ultrawide but in the future was thinking about a 55 inch 8k TV.
Thanks mate! Ultrawides are way to thin IMO mate, like looking through a small letterbox.
@@KarlGosling Thanks Karl! IF the big screen TV works for you then I might have to consider. :)
Never realised you could get feed back on pedals......interesting. I much prefer watching people discover as they film rather than the “here’s one I made earlier” school of filming. Maybe the chap who gave you the replacement motors can give you some pointers of replacing them.
Thanks mate, I just like to share what I experience with others, feels like the natural way to to things! :)
Hey, might have mis understood Karl, but the "Effect Specialization" set to corners is if you have 4 transducers, i use a buttkicker and that's all i have, so it's set to "mono" Dean
It determines which wheel telemetry triggers the effect your tuning... if you have four transducers one on each corner (like I do) then yes you could choose only the appropriate wheel for each effect, but as it's a single rumble motor on the pedal you want wheel lock up telemetry from all four corners to trigger it... or at least I do.
Mono may also work though if it merges the data into one, I didn't try.
Hi Karl you might find the interesting as a big fix for quest washed colour issue. I Just noticed V29 has a added adjuster for night display mode. if you have the slider to zero its the default colour as without night mode on but if you move the slider up slightly and lower the brightness down to 20% it fixes the washed out colour issue with link or airlink
I'll take a look thanks mate! :)
@@KarlGosling I think its a good fix for now I have my slider set about 35 percent Good videos by the way
perfect timed video, ordered this with dual fans for he sprints on the 5th so should be here any day so setup info a great help. on a side note how do you find the dd with dr2.0? I have a vrs pro and im really struggling too get a good feeling in dr2. its either no feeling or it wants to break both my wrists!!
Excellent! :)
Yeah I really like it, feels very natural compared to other EPAS cars I drive in real life.
Nice Vid Karl, you come across as a very sincere geezer an i like watching your content. I feel i have a lot to learn from you. Where do you get the transducers from ,and at what cost? I have self built PC and PS5 and Xbox Series X, do these motors only work on PC games? Your answer would be highly appreciated, as i a am a lad bloke just like you lol 😊 Drew. And Fans aswell?
Thanks Drew! This does only really work on PC games, Sim Racing Studio sell full kits that are plug and play for the fans (link in description) and slipangle.com do a great transducer kit too if you want to check them out.
Cool pedals that vibrate, my wife will llove it lol; Just a little patience on the discount code and I'll buy the set for the 3 pedals heusinkveld ultimate set
Great vid mate 👍
Thanks 👍
Yet another great review. How do the SRS fans and the Sim 3D fans compare?
Much the same mate, either are great, I would always go with two though and use the SRS wind curving feature! :)
Great, thanks. I’ll order 2 plus the rumble kit, I’ve got SRS software(and some ancillaries)already so all good🙂
Sorry for a dumb question, but what is the difference between SRS and Sim 3D racing? It's my new hobby. TIA. 🤔
Hi again Karl. Can you install two motors per pedal on the Clubsport V3's pedal set? And what would you recommend for the implementation of the 'brake perfotmance kit', of which i think is very overpriced for what the components you get are! Some sorry arsed bits of rubber for 30 nicker!? I feel robbed, unless they make a good difference.... 'Drew'. T.I.A.
Hi.! How much noise does the vibrators make.? :)
Great video Karl and exactly the one I was hoping u would make next. I see he offers a two fan solution as well so that's that problem solved. I know I could build this but I don't have the knowledge, know how or patience (lol) and time is an issue too. I also have the srs shake kit, I assume sim hub can run both this and that at the same time with no issues yeah? Also if u know the answer what is the difference in the fan choices that he offers?
The two different variations available on the website are:
Standard - Similar to how Karl had his setup with the fan pointing at yourself directly
75mm Duct - If you'd prefer to place the fan elsewhere and run ducting to direct the air flow toward yourself
I've tried my utmost to offer this at what I consider a decent price and after speaking to a lot of different people and looking at the rest of the market. The cables used are tailor made by a professional cable company specifically for my products & everything has been designed in house too.
@@DarkPand0r thanks for the reply, I've edited my comment as it was worded badly. I apologise. What I meant was I could build a less professional version for a certain price, if I had the know how. It was not supposed to be an insult to the product or price at all Calvin, but after reading your reply I understand how badly worded it was. I do intend to be a customer once I get the new version of the hv sprints 1.5 on release.
@@El_Rebel88 Its not an issue it all, I didn't read it as anything negative. Let me know if you need any help with any of my products. :)
Yes mate you can run this and the SRS setup no problem.
@@KarlGosling I am new to sim racing, so pls forgive me for my dumbness. So does SRS stand for 'Sim Racing Setup'?
Can you install a motor on the clutch pedal, to simulate the bite point? Also, can you simulate a spongy brake pedal; as the bakes wear over time? I assume the steering will 'degrade' as the tyres wear(?). Just some random thoughts which popped up after you had changed the brake motors.
No mate, there's no telemetry data for biting points.
Spongy brake pedals are not pad/disc wear, thats what happens if you get air in your braking system and will never be the case IRL (race not ropey old street cars! lol).
@@KarlGosling Thanks for the info. I have heard that F1 cars do encounter a "long" brake pedal over the course of a long race. Still, there is probably enough going on to worry about it. Main thing is to be having fun, eh?
Hey karl, how do these hold up?
Thank you
I have only managed to get the rumble motors on the back of the pedals to work with asseto compythingyony. After forking out nearlly 400 notes for the pedals I was surprised they don't work with everything
I'm guessing you've got the Fanatec V3 pedals? Drop me a message and Ill help you tune it to work with other sims too... Without buying my rumble kit.. Although bare in mind it hasn't got alot of power out of the box.
@@DarkPand0r Yes mate. Had them a while but never had much luck with Fanatec.
That's a really kind offer, thank you! I'll message you when I'm back at home and infront of them :)
@@DarkPand0r Been trying to message you but I can't for some reason, god I hate Apple haha
@@DesignedRhyme jump into my discord, I'll message you through there:
discord.gg/Ten7rWTz
@@DarkPand0r Thank you so much for all your help mate, total diamond!
Hello Karl, which seat is it that you are using in the video? I sill search for a seat and had a look at your RS9 seat, but i also like yours in this video. Can you recomend it over the RS9 or which model is it? My bodyshape is similar to yours, so it would be great to get some tips from you :-)
It's the XL RX from GT Omega mate, I prefer it as it's quite a bit bigger than the RS9.
@@KarlGosling Hey :-) Thanks a lot for your answer. I found out they cant deliver in my country for the next weeks ... very sad :-)
Gonna bugger you with another question lol.
If you were to get the rumble motor set with 2 motors, can you use dual wind fans to that last connector in the box or would I only be able to run one fan then?
You'll have to ask Sim 3D mate, I can't actually remember and I don't have mine to hand right now to check.
@@KarlGosling Yup! Thanks again though, have a great one
Just deciding what wind setup to get.
Is there £200 worth of difference between srs hurricane and the two fan setup from sim3d?
Thats subjective mate, to some £200 is a lot of money and to others is very little... so I guess it depends on your financial position.
@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply Karl.
I'm in the £200 is a fair bit of money category.
I'm guessing you've not used the 2 sim3d fans together to get the speed curve using their setup.
But on a sort of percentage scale is there a ball park you'd think you'd get out of the sim3d in comparison to the hurricane.
Say, you might think you can get about 70% of the way to immersion provided by the latter or is the difference quite noticeable.
I mainly race dirt rally 2 in VR with occasional forays into open wheelers in iracing and have bought ams2 for the karts.
On another note, have you ever tried swapping your 4 actuators for 3.
I tried it last week and found it much better after about half an hour of getting used to it. I use two front and just one at the back.
You can ramp it right up without fear of one leg losing contact with the ground.
Seems to feel less floaty than 4 does.
Can you make a video with your current transducer setup/settings?
I no longer run any as I have vertical actuators.
@@KarlGosling WTF are those?
I want one ~ but link not working !!
Keep waffling on
LOL @ "Balls Blower."
Fan Facia, i think?
You didn't even show us you testing them lol
I'm getting a bit worried here. I ordered 3 months ago and he keeps pushing the date + the discord link is gone.
Has he gone rogue or something? I already paid for the product :(
Ah this doesn't sound good, I have no additional information though mate, had no contact since back then.
@@KarlGosling I did some digging and someone sent me the new discord link. Thanks for your reply though! Have a good one
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I could make a ducting outlet thats only around 75mm to focus air down to a narrow spread for ultimate crotch cooling action! You've got the idea, I've got the know how.... Lets do this!
If you didn’t waffle, I wouldn’t watch your videos haha!
hahaha thanks James! :)
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hey guys buying the "upgraded motors" is a scam they are the same motors and same weights the only difference is that the arduino motor shield is outputting 12v and the fanatec board only outputs 5v. if you cut the wires and connect them to a arduino board and set it up in simhub you will get a huge improvement like karl got with the "upgraded" motors. I can confirm this is true because i have done it my self.
I will have to test this, thanks mate! :)
A couple of points on this, Firstly saying its a "Scam" is wrong on quite a few levels. Alot of people know you can make a similar Rumble Setup if you know what you're doing and I've discussed this with people quite alot. In fact I sell the brackets for pedals on my website for people that want to do this but don't have access to a 3D printer or don't know how to design them (I've also sent empty boxes & the custom motor cables to customers too).
Also, after testing with quite a few people the original fanatec motors burn out quite quickly (the variation in quality with these style of motors is huge between different manufacturers). I originally sent out a few kits to friends with a cable that allowed it to connect with the original motors but after the motors burnt out quickly I changed course and sent the motors I've been using for other pedals.
Also, Its become apparent fairly recently that the motor brackets that come with the Fanatec V3's aren't the strongest and I've been contacted by someone who's had a bracket snap from the increased forces!! I've already designed a modified bracket that stops this and prevents damage to the original Fanatec parts and am in the process of sending them out to people that have purchased the kit for the Fanatec Pedals from me FOC to avoid this happening to them in the future. (If you'd like one please contact me).