You’re Popping Too Late! Rookie Mistake #12
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2023
- This is a mistake I see many skaters, beginner and slightly more experienced, commit. You might notice it as well. Lots of skaters don't pop until their legs are almost fully extended. This is nerfing their pop, and robbing them of control. In the case of trying to flip out of grinds or slides, this may be the one reason they can't land the trick they've been trying fruitlessly.
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I have skated daily with friends for years, and your videos have taught me SO much and improved my skateboarding drastically. Thank you, man. This is not common knowledge.
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ive been skating for progress for about the past year and have been struggling with pop for 6 months now. ive started to ask around because i dont want to be stuck in this depressed no pop, no height stage, instead of receiving valuable information from these people, i just confused them. i havent skated yet since watching this but im sure it will be the thing that will cause me to break through this.
I love these rookie mistake videos. It's hard to say how much they have actually helped me but they have trained me to look at skateboarding differently and to think more about what my whole body is doing. I enjoy it... also nice to get tips from another goofy footer.
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All my tricks !re perfect again!! I didint skate for few months bcs of injury and when i started again i just couldnt get the same quality of my tricks as before.. for example i ussually have really good kickflip( very similar to yours) but i just culdnt execute it as before ..and after watching few rookie mistakes videos esspecially this one helped me alot! Thanks Norman ! Really appreciating what are you doing and will become patreon this week so i can learn alot more from you! Much love! Peace!
Happy that you’re landing your tricks again. I know the frustration of coming back and feeling off. It makes your sessions feel like labor. Welcome back and thank you for watching.
I don't THINK of WHEN I'm gonna pop. The timing comes naturally after 1000's of repetitions. The underrated key is to not squat so low and squat for the minimum amount of time necessary to avoid fatigue in the quads. Then focus on the pop being quick and explosive and leveling out the board to land 4 wheels simultaneously no matter if the pop was good or not
HAD THE SAME PROBLEM I told myself I needed to pop once I reach to peak of my jump but i kept getting lower and lower Ollie’s I’m going to definitely try this tip THX
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Bro, thank you ! I've just returned from the skating session, pissed of that my ollies are 3 inches high, I thought I have not enough explosion or control or timing. I was trying to jump as high as I can, pop as hard as I can, but the board didn't want to pop at all. And now watching your video, I know what I'm gonna practice tmrw
Thank you! I was committing this rookie mistake as an intermediate skater for way too long. I lost my kickflips for a long time and could not figure out why. Implemented this advice today (along with keeping my back heel up) and I got them back better, higher, and more buttery than ever. The board also feels lighter now. Thank you!
Facts lol kickflips play wit my emotions until I tell myself the right way to do em in the sesh
Norman, you're the best! I've been f***ing around with ollie for a year to make it decent before I'm jump into a fliptricks. Now I can start my lifetime journey to f*** around with flatground tricks. I'm thrilled! "Aiming to pop, right before you squat" - a milion dolar advice. Thank you so much - you are the best skate mentor. Great song btw
Lifetime of fun with flip tricks. Try to aim for right after you squat. Or just as you hit the lowest point. The delay is about 0.35 seconds. You can experiment and see what works for you.
I have been stuck with the same Ollie for 20 years. I wish I had found this out earlier! I am no longer loosing connection with the board and confidence is way up!!! Thanks so much ❤
Good video! Specifically for tre flips, i recently figured out that I was popping too EARLY. It always felt like i needed to use all of my strength to barely get it around (also it would kind of barely leaving the ground), but I think popping later made it so I scoop after the wheels leave the ground which makes it come around way easier.
Thank you! These little details make tricks so much easier.
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Bro thank you so much! Just getting back to skating after an accident and my mechanics were all there, except for this. Something so seemingly menial that it’s truly wrongfully overlooked and understated. feel like I just unlocked my true pop again. 💪🏻 Thank you! 🙏🏻
Thank you very much sir
this is something that doesnt come up much when talking about when you pop, and its interesting that your overcompensating when you think you should pop vs when you actually pop. That overcompensation technique is useful af.
To gain height in my ollies, i practiced by trying to start the motion by ripping my front foot off the board, and after it starts to follow my foot, pop. I aimed not to slide my foot at all, but create distance and catch the nose with the top of my foot. Most of that is intention mental overcompensation to compensate for fear to normalize what inputs i actually send.
This comment is what keeps me interested in having a channel. Finding others who put the same amount of thought into how they execute their tricks. Thank you for sharing.
Tried this out the last couple days and boy howdy does it make a difference!! Thank youuuu!!!
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This is so true especially when trying to grind or slide on a ledge that's not tall. I have tendency to over pop when skating smaller ledges.
Simply, you are the best tutor for skateboarding! Awesome. From beginning level to intermediate level. Without your help, someone may take years to correct Ollie. Someone, who skates well, but she/he may vaguely explain how it is done. You Make it.
I needed this so badly Tysm
Thank you for the tutorial, you first explaining the mistake and then showing it with the clips, especially the ledge tricks showed it perfectly for me. Definitely gonna keep it in mind for the next session!
I like showing people this by doing an Ollie without jumping at all. You’re essentially just popping and sucking the board up to your feet. This is great for jumping onto handrails. Popping slightly early gives you more control since your legs are more bent (more potential movement), just gotta suck them legs up.
this was really it, thank you so much, i always wondered why i'd feel so off balance when i catch my board after a trick sometimes but this was exactly why
My skating has improved so much from your tips. Norman you’re the goat!!!
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Probably don't remember but I made a comment on your video a couple weeks ago. I ended up landing my kickflips, it made the past few months of hard work more then worth it. Your videos have been some of the most helpful videos for me. So thank you one more time.
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I really needed this advice now I will be able to improve my tricks more, normally I used to crouch too low to explode the tricks when in reality it is only a little, now I will have more awareness in the movements my body makes and improve my burst more, thanks Norman woods I always see the rookie mistakes section and it has really been a lot of help to me and improved my skating, really thank you very much.
A little bit of awareness goes a long way. So many deliberate movements in skating. Good luck with your tricks.
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Great advice. Cater your pop timing to the obstacle
One of those videos you may like after just reading the title. Recently realized this exact thing, it was totally a game changer for me.
Great explanation
Really great advice. Clearly a deep thinker. You know what you're talking about.
Yeah had to subscribe after this. Such a good tip
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I just learning ollie and I have noticed, that it’s much easier and cleaner when I standing less sideways. To do ollie while standing sideways is extremely much harder for me.
I don’t even know when I tell myself to pop but I’ll give it some thought next time for sure. There’s hardly anyone else whose word I’d take for this than your’s Norman.
Once you start focusing on these little pieces, your skating will reflect the changes!
Huge advice! Great video!
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Thanks Norman. I love these tutorial vids because you offer such great insight. You’re really underrated and should get more views. Hope to have pop like yours one day 🤞
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Makes sense. I'm 52, if I'm riding around in squat mode, my muscles / energy for pop are already wasted, spent. This backs up my theory. Like this channel - hitting on deferent things.
This is interesting, because at 6:45 it definitely looks like you pop very late / when the legs are almost fully extended. But over the years I have started to realise that the most visible movement is typically not the most important movement. Some other, more important, movements probably happened "long before" the most visible movement. Here, the actual pop is the most visible movement, but you probably did a few other things before the pop
Thank you. Im a blind kid with 1 lip, after watching this i can clean my turtle shell
That actually makes sense. Especially whenever I skate some new spot, I have to make a few tries just to adjust the timing of my pop. I think my body does what you're talking about on its subcontious level.
I was doing a bit of research. It takes about 0.35 seconds from thought to movement. Small, until you consider that most skate tricks happen (from squatting to popping) over about 2 seconds. Tight tolerance to work with.
This is huge. I do this with varials and ESPECIALLY with treflips. I’m fully extended by the time I’m flicking etc. even if board goes through I feel I have no air time. I’m definitely working on this.
Thanks brodie been skating a long time and this helped.
Glad to hear it!
this video fire
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Speaking of the popping timing, I also find it quite interesting about how low people squad down. It seems varies A LOT from person to person. Some people squad really really low, like Tiago Lemos; while some other people, like Stefan Janoski, just barely bend their knees while popping
Very true. Usually, the bigger the pop, the deeper the squat. It also comes down to physical differences. Someone’s mobility may be limited, causing them to have a different approach. Another shallow squatter is Marius Syvanen.
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uau... just figured out my problem. tnx man!
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It’s crazy because after ten+ years, you watch a video like this and you can implement immediately lol
I wasn’t able to go skate td but I will def be thinking ab this the next time I go out Preesh bro
Great video! Are you supposed to look more forward when skating stairs then look at your board more in the air or try to keep your head forward and your eyes on the front of the board board once you are in the air?
Do you think there is an appropriate time to preload your squat/compression or do you believe that it is better to work on the timing and make the compression or squatting part of your ollie?
I am 6'4" and sometimes I find that there sometimes isn't enough room to get a proper roll up on my spots.
Hey Norman can you make a video on ollie timing because I have this problem where when I ollie the back foot doesn’t stick to the back of the board
30 years ago we had to learn by blind trial and error for months/years with the odd copied VHS video shared amongst friends. I wish I was 14 now! 😂
You and me both. I started 25 years ago. But, things were very similar.
I think what you’re trying to say is: when you squat and jump into an ollie, there is a precise moment in time when your leverage from the ground is maximized. Popping too early or too late wastes that momentum.
i think the root of the pop is newton's 3rd law. someday i noticed that when i ollie i stand very firmly on the board and i feel that i push the ground below me, but when i switch ollie i stand airy on the board and i pop like i'm on an iced lake afraid that it'll break. and i was like, ofc if you don't push the ground (action) how can you expect to go up (reaction)? (i still pop knee high at my best😅). anyways i'll also experiment with what you explained and see what happens
i noticed myself doing it whenever i have a backside grinds off of a hip.
This video got me completely surprised because i am fully convinced that the number 1 rookie mistake is poping too early. My understanding is that people get weak pop no matter how hard they try because the board is still constrained by the weight of the skaters body. Apart from having nowhere to go, the pop is dulled the same way a string cant ring if you put your hand on top of it. That’s why pro skaters’ pops sound so loud and bright, compared to rookies. Basically i always thought the recipe is to pop as late as you can, while still being nicely balanced and comfortable on the board and capable of poping altogether. Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Btw i’m 35 and skate since 12 in case that matters.
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What’s the song at 7:00??
I bet it does 😂 That’s my song, “Memories”. Coming out Nov 24. Link in the bio to the presave and music video.
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Hmm okay so for high pop, you start the process of putting pressure into your ankles early, and release it in a slightly relaxed fashion which should bring the timing close to when the body weight leaves the ground?
If so, would you say one should start with that pressure right when the reach the bottom of the squat? I thought popping when the legs are nearly straight would be ideal, but I guess it does make sense since joints have the highest power output in the middle of the range of motion, not at the end.
I start with the pressure before that. I push up onto my toes before squatting. As I’m squatting, I keep tension on my ankles and try to keep them upright through the squat and into the pop.
@@NormanWoods iiiiinteresting... By toes I suppose you mean the ball of the foot? I moved away from doing thing because I thought it would limit the range of motion of the ankle, but I had found that not much of it needed anyway.
I've been a bit obsessed with perfecting my ollies for over a year now and this is new to me despite trying so many different things. Thank you for the info! I will definitely link a video for your disposal if this makes my ollies improve.
How to pop a squat?
I remember the day i figured out the ollie as high as you can and then flip, my two homies learned it with it me when i explained it
Wow, I can't believe I haven't heard anyone talk about this
basically, it's like jumping. wouldn't it be silly to see someone jump where they sat in a squat for awhile? if you watch people jump up platforms to build height, you never see them linger on the squat, it's one fluid motion
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I've notice that the sooner I pop the higher I go, is blood pressure a factor?
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There’s a caption about it at 6:46. It’s my song Memories. On all of the streaming services 11/24:
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@@NormanWoods ah cool, good song i really like it
how much time you spend practicing per day?
8:50 me trying to film a 20 minutes skate video. :(
it seems like basically your knees should always be at least a little bent
When you say you pop as soon as you squat, you do mean on your way up right? As in, you squat, get to your lowest point, start rising up, and immediately pop at that point instead of waiting? I think a lot of beginners fall into this trap because when they pop too early when they are learning there's a tendency to still have their weight on the board. Instead, with your tip here, you are already lifting up off the board but your legs are not fully extended.
Bro u have real pop
Can you post a clip of someone or yourself popping too late as a comparison. I think i understand what you mean but it is hard to visualize.
When I see someone like Jake Hayes who has really high pop after squatting he seems to wait till his body is fully before popping
For example this ollie his popping leg is almost straight before the tail hits the ground th-cam.com/users/shortsfpQPArPIAdE?si=Kp-SiYDnyMu6fQWh
I can try to find something. Not sure how easy it would be to do it on purpose. I’m not sure Jake is waiting. He’s got long legs. Takes a bit for that pop to happen. That’s why I say aim for earlier. That .35 second delay is long, in the context of a 1.5 second trick.
@@NormanWoods okay thanks man. All your other rookie mistakes helped me a lot so I will trust in it and give it a try. Some things don't make sense or are hard to visualize until have tried for yourself
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