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When Imperial Consort Ling Died she was given 76 honors which is 18 more honors than the normal customs of an Imperial Consort. She was buried to the right side of Emperor Qinglong’s future resting place and Empress Fuca on the left. Imperial Consort Ling went on many Excursions throughout her life with her husband Emperor Qinglong. The Emperor wouldn’t promote her because she would be stuck in the palace and wouldn’t be able to live a freer lifestyle. She also didn’t have the background to be an Empress. Empress Fuca did teach Imperial Consort Ling and she was very Fond of Ling. The narrator described Imperial Consort Ling as not Evil in real life. Mentioned her name Ling pronunciation change for the film. I believe she was favored and loved more than the others because a man doesn’t spend that much time on a ship with a women or have that many babies unless he loves her and Ames her son the Crown Prince. In her latter years she did manage the harem. Even though she wasn’t an Empress because she didn’t want that tittle, she still acted as an Empress and was given a lot of power.
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This will definitely be an interesting discussion. Given how many babies she had, and how quickly she rose, I'd say yes. Especially if she reminded him in any way of Empress Xiaoxianchun.
My memory about the beautiful and kindness of consort Ling came from Huan Zhu GeGe series. To see this character became such an evil woman in Ruyi Chuan that shook up myself as well but to see Yingluo as a good consort Ling once again made me comfortable to watch 😅
I actually felt quite uncomfortable seeing the Step-Empress always being labeled as the "big bad" in most of the dramas about Qianlong's harem.
Whenever dramas showed that the Step-Empress as "mad" and "crazy" when she cut her hair, it makes me wonder: was she really out of her mind?
Whenever dramas showed the evil Step-Empress being "defeated" and the good Ling guifei taking her place, I wondered: is that really a happy ending?
For all we know, neither of them was evil or bad. Maybe they were both dealt a really bad hand by the Emperor.
From historical documents, Qianlong never reported the Step-Empress cutting her hair in front of his face. For all we know, maybe he just made that convenient excuse for her after he became extremely dissatisfied with her. Kind of similar to how people in power in the past would just label someone as a witch or hysteric whenever it was convenient so they can get them out of the way.
And from historic documents and historian analysis, Ling Huangguifei was never given any real love, real power or even true respect by the Emperor. All she was ever to him was a "birthing machine" and Empress Xiaoxianchun's replacement or souvenir.
I think the same thing could be said about any of the other "antagonistic" concubines in the show.
Historically, Huixian Huangguifei was not mean, or rude and got along well with the other concubines/consorts in the Forbidden City. In fact, due to her family background, I highly doubt that she was as haughty and arrogant as she was portrayed in a lot of dramas.
ShuJia Huangguifei was also the same way. In fact, the way that she was portrayed in Ruyi's Love in the palace was not the most accurate. She was definitely not a "foreign" tribute. Her family might have roots to Goryeo, she was definitely not closely related to the Korean king and her clan was already converted to Manchu generations ago.
@@blenderpain8249 I disagree with your point of view. You seem to get into Ruyi chaun TV dramas so much and thought Ji Hong hao might be a good one. We never knew the true! But for me Qianlong also loves Ling fei, she might not get many honors in her life like you tried to say but she buried besides Qianlong and that proved a lot what she meant to him and actually I don't care what you might think about the CHARACTER of Ji Hong Hao in Ruyi Chaun or Ling Fei. This is just another fiction for me. My point of view HERE is about Ling Fei and the character I usually love but I actually like the actress who played Ling Fei in Ruyi Chaun and the character of her which developped in each stage of the life in harem you can understand some of her actions and end tragically like other consorts. I can seperate the fact and fiction, now I grow up and watch TV dramas not just for entertainment but also try to understand the character even it's quite annoying sometimes and I never put the historical record on the fiction like Huan Zhu GeGe or Zhen Huan or Ruyi Chaun or Yingluo. Those fictions wrote by authors no way to compare with history. I don't know why you have an issue with my comments. I just tell my feelings. That's it!
@@shivabhornsri4899 Yes, you are right. Those are fictional works and I can understand the appeal of "sparrow turns into a phoenix" type of storyline. Whenever I see shows like The Story of Yanxi Palace, it makes me feel extremely satisfied when the main character, Yingluo, despite, coming from a lowly palace maid background was able to defeat all her opponents with tactic and wit.
Maybe we got off on the wrong foot but I don't have any issues with your opinion on Lingfei's character as depicted in your favourite shows/dramas. And I can also understand the shock when a favourite character is depicted in such a bad light in another show.
I'm just pointing out that historically, neither Ling Huang guifei and Step-Empress Nara was as depicted as in those fictional works and most likely, neither of them lived the life that they wanted.
And no matter how much we wished them to be the same way as how our favourite dramas portrayed them as, it will never be true.
Huan Zhu GeGe!!! OMG!! I loved that show growing up!!
But I never really watched it for the court drama, mostly for the princesses and their adventures hehehe... It was only last year or so that I discovered that it was based on Qianlong's era.
Hehehe... How times have changed. I should probably rewatch it. Hehe.
@@shivabhornsri4899 hmm the way I think the reason why she buried beside qianlong is because her son is the emperor. so it is for formal action.
I think Consort Ling’s real life treatment was more likely how we see Consort Chun’s treatment in Ruyi’s Royal Love. I can see her swift promotions due to being favored while young, then by the amount of children she produced. I think Consort Rong, Consort Huixian. Empress Xiaoxian, Consort Shu, and Step Empress Ula Nara were among his favorites.
Chinese history is so much deeper than just the facts recorded. Ruyi's Royal Love got me mad about a lot of fictions. 🤣
Me too.
I think becoming consort at such young age and with her background, means she was among his favourites. But i don't think she was THE most favourite.
I think she wasn't evil as portrayed in the TV drama Ruyi but because the step empress was the main protagonist and the discovery of her body with some Mercury, so someone just made up that she was evil and was punished to death.
She was the Han Chinese humble servant then consort. She befriended with many consorts.
being died in mercury poison is not rare thing in the past like Queen Elizabeth 1
because of the lack of knowledge people use mercury in order to preserve their skin
Actually until now some facial cream and cosmetics made from china found some mercury content because it was so cheap and very effective
so it's not surprising if a woman like consort ling may died in mercury poison who needs to preserve her own youth
my only question why no one really think about it?
FYI, high amounts of mercury in her remains coils be from the cosmetics or medicines they used.
@@princess7jasmine oh yeah i forgot about that and didn’t they say she was sick so could it be found in the medicine too she was given?
I’m really curious on why the kids of Empress Xiaoyichun wasn’t raised by her (especially Emperor Jiaqing, who was raised by Imperial Noble Consort Qinggong).
But furthermore, I’m impressed on how on earth that she was promoted in every ranks of the Qing Imperial Harem.
This is just a guess, but it might be because Xiaoyichun was from a poor family and was thus deemed unsuitable to raise her children.
@@elliottcanuel2196 yeah I'm about to say this too
But I she's still qualified but because of her poor background it may affect her children so she choose others to raised her children to have them some support
Ive read that it is not allowed for any concubine/consort to raise their own children. Children should only have strong bond to their father/emperor something like that.
She chose to be a wife, not a mother
@@katarinabishop7177actually Qing Dynasty have a trauma about this, because during Kangxi era the princes fight to get the throne is crazy.
So she was posthumously promoted to the Empress because she was the birth mother of future Emperor? I read somewhere that Qianlong didnt add a worship ancestral rites to Consort Ling because she was not qualified as an Empress😢 how sad even she was an Empress posthumously. Qianlong still treated her as Imperial Noble Consort not an Empress😢😢
Actually shes buried on the right side of Qianlong and Empress Fuca is on left side.
I really don't think that any of the women are neither evil nor good. In case of Ling guifei, I think she is more miserable! Seeing their age differences I don't think she is with the emperor for out of pure love rather more due to her family's condition. And that the emperor is only with her because of her looks and some qualities in her that he likes but not a true emotional connection. Seeing that he had only moved her family's clan into the yellow boarded banner only before her death and other circumstances, I think he posthumously titled her empress for the sake of their children.
They gave a lot of promotions after death. I want my promotions while I'm here to enjoy it.
I think Qianlong’s true love was Heshen. He gave him the political power and his favorite daughter.
The corrupt official that was removed by Ling's son? 🤣🤣🤣 good one
Lol
well now I have more questions than before. Is so confusing seeing how he treat her giving her formal titles but any power o full position plus is well know that he didn't like most of their sons with her. I personally believe that he didn't love her, but her personality was fun for him plus as she didn't have any familiar power wans't a real treat and worked to keep behind those imperial women's with maiden clans court powers. What is your opinion Bing?
Maybe he did love her but didn’t make her Empress in title was to protect her???? She did in real life do the work of empress without the official title. When she died he closed his business office for five days so clearly he didn’t just like her because she was fun, He didn’t close business meetings even for the death of his own children so that says a lot imo
Overall, I don't think he loved her. He was too careless with her rewards and honors, seemingly giving less than what he gave to his other ladies. The way I see it, having so many kids, one after the other but only after more than five years of service could be due to her having a stronger constitution versus the other more frail and sheltered ladies from noble families. It's also possible that their physical compatibility was judt very high, or for the Emperor to find her ways and/or company refreshing. Had he felt any love, his rewards would have been more grand; as it is, it feels like even naming her as empress was done with a "if I don't do this or that, it will reflect poorly on me" mindset.
agree, i don't think she favor her but rather see her as baby machine.
I think the Emperor liked novelty , love is too strong a concept in his dealings with women. His heart was cold and never given away was a lesson learned in childhood. Women had a use- sex and babies as possessions of his to show the world his manhood. Only two women were appreciated- the Empress and one consort. History and modern dramas never give a the true picture - we cannot ask the dead how or why they acted in a certain way , written accounts never really write the truth but are always edited and slanted. The winds merely whisper the echos of those lives long ago, yet those echos still fire our imagination today. That, is a true Legacy.
Hong Li had her buried at his right hand side. OBVIOUSLY he loved her.
Would you ever do a video on noble consort Gao? I'm fascinated by her character since she's always been portrayed as evil but she had a high standing in court.
I already made video for her
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@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Thank you for taking the time to link me to it!
I truly enjoyed listening to the history you shared. Thank you for making this video.
😀🥰Glad you enjoyed it!
I personally think he didn’t promote noble consort Ling as Empress mainly to protect her based on the fact he had bad experiences with Empresses 😂, sadly it didn’t stop her dying long before him😭
Noble Consort ling is one of my Favorites 🥰 because of this show I had to look up cutting hairs , it similar to cursing the Family & demanding Divorce 🤔 more or less , respectfully...
Thank you for this it was very interesting I just love watching this show.
I love this movie and I am grateful to you for explaining the truth behind the tale. Love it ❤
😀I'm so glad!
I think Qianlong only loved empress xiaoxian and noble consort hui. Step-empress was just the empress dowager’s favorite.
? But ruyi and hongli were childhood bbfs! Since ruyi's aunt was empress, ruyi visited the palace befriend hongli (qoilong)
Plus the dower hates ruyi first because of she being neice of her rival and member of ullanara)
@@rebekablackwood i’m talking about the real history
@Raunak 0aa
@@rebekablackwood lol ruyi love in the palace is misleading in REAL HISTORY
Kinda relieve because In fiction we have Wei Yinglou who was smart enough and likeable truly admirable on the other hand that dispicable Yawang, but the point it's so Qianlong really love imperial consort gao that it's turn on events because in both dramas she more like pawn of her family
The way Ruyi's Love portrayed her as absolutely evil didn't sit well with me at all. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love that series but it was so painful to see it.
In 'Ruyi' just the most evil of women, the empress, Ling fei, Jia, were actually the true Qainlong's favorites! How unreal is that fact after watching the episodes more than 2X!!
I still believe the emperor Qian Long love the step empress Ru Yi and the emperor Qian Long is not a perfect human being, he succumbed to lust, temptation, greed and among others.
true, and she IS what women now would do if treated that way. That is obviously abuse
Thank you for this video. There is so much that I didn't know about Empress Xiaoyi before watching this video.
The character, Lady Wei, in Ruyi's Royal Love was terrible at being a villain. She was very careless and didn't know how to cover her tracks.
Not at first
@@mgold7503 There was definitely a time when she looked like she was going to win but then she became bloodthirsty and that passion blinded her. She just wasn't at par with Noble Consort Jia in terms of being calculative and in my opinion, the only reason she was able to get the upper hand at one point was because Ruyi had gradually become disillusioned with the emperor.
@@vishnukanagalingam1991 I like your take. I have also thought about Consort Ling as the "fun concubine". 😄
@@mgold7503 Her character was great when it was still a grey character but it was unfortunate that she was turned into an outright villain. Really, I don't think her character needed to become the villain, the emperor would have been enough.
I don’t think she was that bad at being a villain until towards the end when they made her character appear unhinged (I agree on your bloodthirsty part) as she started killing off those closest to. In general, all crimes are perfect until the writers start making excuses for their downfall.
So she was buried beside Qianlong? In the spot reserved for step empress?
In Ruyi and in Yanxi palace, her kids were adopted by consort ying and empress dowager. I wonder if that happened irl too?
In real history, out of her 6 children, only 4 reached adulthood. 15th son (Jiaqing emperor) was raised by Consort Qing, 17th son was raised by Consort Ying, 9th daughter was raised by Consort Shu. I am not sure about 7th daughter though.
@@chris9879 if im not mistaken the 7th princess was raised by Noble Consort Yu. I read it somewhere but I don't remember where. Also I think Consort Ling only raised the last prince. She died few years after he was born so consort ying took care of him.
@@chris9879 but why her kids raised by other consorts tho?
@@maike17 it was tradition that the kids were raised by a higher ranking consort that the mom so they wouldn't be too attached
@@Imanina-kh1ju Also, these higher ranking consorts generally come from well known or higher status families which will benefit the child.
I've always wondered why Ruyi was called step empress, not just empress. Does anyone know? I assume it's due to get being the second empress but was it still the same rank and all that empress Xiaoxian had?
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Can you please make a video on the Step Empress of Qianlong Emperor ....
I already made several videos about her. Pleas check the play list “ Qing dynasty history “ to find out.😀
I thought imperial noble consort gao was the emperor’s true love.
How comes we have so few informations about her life? I mean China was a highly administrated country at this time and 1727-1775 is not that old.
Ok so #1 all the tv series was made up and #2 i didn't understand the significance of posthumously promoting using a different name yet promoting her because she was biological mother of guy nominated as Crown prince. Can you explain what the exact meaning of terms Zhui zeng & Zhui feng is?
yup the difference feng n zeng ?
Zui Feng is "Posthumous promotion" and Zui Zheng "Posthumous Correction" (Zheng meaning to make right)
After Rui royal love and the quick rise i think we was evil but I don’t understand why she was buried next to him Ian literally shocked
She kept them in the bed she did that to him in that bedroom that the others weren't doing
Please I need to know about history of studying and memorization in Chinese history so much ,thank u.
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In 'Ruyi Zhuan', I think Empress Xiaoxianchun was actually way more evil, because all her actions was out of impulse and jealously to the extreme from the very beginning, considering she was the master of the Hougongzhidu. she could do anything and make anything happen without Emperor Qianlong knowing right away. If she hadn't die early(due to Imperial Noble Consort Shujia's schemes), I pretty sure she would've caused way more physical and emotional harm than Empress Xiaoyichun could ever do when alive.
Xiaoyichun on the other hand is simple-minded and cold-blooded, and all her actions are an act of the bad things that have been done to her and those around her. She is easily manipulated and influenced by others which lead her down the path of becoming domineering and to become above all.
The most evil character in my opinion isn't Consort Ling. It's YUNJAO SHE HAS NO REDEEMING QUALITIES AT ALL.
I'm kinda curious who is the most evil consort or concubine in real history?
It depends on you define evil.😏
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Make a video on this! I love your content
Did the real history is the same that she became a consort after the empress died or before ?
does qianlong really ever trully love those woman?. he look like more into honor and status than love. she might be not the most beloved consort of qianlong, but surely she is one of luckiest of qianlong consort. atleast she has a son will become emperor.
The emperor favorite her but maybe not the most favorite
Thank you
🤔I think the become a very long Seires, if the writter use your Information Videos for Ruyi´s Love.
For me Ling ws a Victem of many people did thier play with her for another Goals in the Drama and was not understanding how evil it was in all.🤐
We know only the Stepp Empress are not forgotten and her Secret of Hair cut.🤫
Qianlongs Inner Court was a full of Drama and better as Game of Throne, as we knoe now.
We should find thier Dairy´s!!! Or some Letters thier wrotten to they Families.
Thank you.
Ruyi's portrayal of Consort Ling was factually obscured. Even if you make her the "villain". It was inacurately portraid. End of discussion.
If the first Ling meant smart, what did the second Ling mean?
The same meaning.
Intelligent
She is good or bad i don't know but she's not loyal that is what I see in yanxi palace
Please improve your English, it's hard to understand what your sentences mean. If I wasn't Chinese myself, I don't think I would be able to discern what you are saying.
Work on your Chinese dialects, then you can watch channels where they speak it fluently.
I only speak English and I understand her just fine.
@@CordsZ Me too. She speaks slow enough to be understood.
I can understand everything too.