Nothing will get NYC drivers to take alternatives. Not even pain. Some are incapable of learning

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  • @FlyingOverTr0ut
    @FlyingOverTr0ut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I wouldn't call drivers "lazy, anti-social" idiots. I'm car free but for years simply didn't know that biking and public transportation was a viable way of getting around, and that's even with growing up in the DC metro area, taking the metro and bus a lot before I got a car, and having a friend who loved biking. I just assumed cars were the way to get around if you want independence. I was just ignorant. Ten years later and I love being car free, but I think people have to come to viscerally understand just how positive active transportation can be. And to do that, certainly, videos like yours helps, as well as just being out on the street yourself as a cyclist/scooter user/whatever other mode of getting around, so that drivers get used to seeing you.

  • @isaacng123456789
    @isaacng123456789 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Car heads be like "if there were no bike lanes and car lanes, there would be no traffic"

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see a lot more drivers than cyclists. Bike lanes are a waste of space and create congestion. But that's the point.

    • @miscworker
      @miscworker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      bike lanes famously invented car traffic, it's just simple math

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miscworker Believe it or not, blocking off lanes to vehicles creates congestion.

    • @miscworker
      @miscworker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 👍

    • @wellivea1
      @wellivea1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 By that logic, adding more lanes is a way to solve car traffic. How has that been going in almost every US city? Although, I do think a dedicated bus lane or street car is a far better use of space than bike lanes but bike lanes are cheaper so here we are. We could have both but we have to prioritize cars.

  • @matthewconstantine5015
    @matthewconstantine5015 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Insert in bad faith argument about emergency vehicles, wheel chairs, weather, hills, "this isn't Europe," freedom, poor people who HAVE to commute by car to lower Manhattan from New Jersey/Staten Island for...reasons, cyclists are the real dangerous people, and of course, something about crime. Follow that up with claims that drivers already pay for the the roads with their gas taxes and cyclists should have to pay tolls too for...vague, hand-wavy reasons and something about Obama or whatever. And something negative about immigrants, just to ad a bit of spice. Hell, might as well throw in something about how climate change is a hoax, and anyone living in Manhattan who wants to breath clean air is just part of the woke mob...or something.
    Seriously, though. Anyone who has the option to not drive in Manhattan but choses to anyway is clearly someone who has judgement so poor that they should not be allowed to drive a car anywhere. You know they don't stop at stop signs or red lights. You know they pull through crosswalks while pedestrians are still present. You just absolutely know they don't stop at the heavy white line, but pull all the way up to block the crosswalk. And speed limits? Not for them.

  • @imladris9550
    @imladris9550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That looks like hell. I try to avoid main roads when I bike because I hate cars passing me, but NYC on a bike seems even worse. I hope they get decent continuous biking infrastructure soon. Good luck to you out there.

  • @brev653
    @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    15 IS too low, preach it brother. The social cost of driving is IMMENSE, and just think of everything we could do to make better use of the space if we took away some car lanes...

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Waaaa! I'm too poor to afford a car so I don't want anyone else to be able to either!

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@nonyafkinbznes1420 buddy, most people who live in NYC don't drive regularly whether or not we can afford cars. The city is just plain too dense for the amount of space that cars take up. Millionaires take the subway because it doesn't get stuck in traffic.
      Most of the private cars on the road in Manhattan are commuters, not locals, and having our city choked with traffic really sucks for those of us who actually live here, 'cause the crashes kill people, and the emissions and brake dust give kids asthma.
      If you have a bunch of people from out of town killing your neighbors and making kids sick, you should want them to stop.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brev653 That's a lie. Over 57% of NYC residents have a driver's license and streets and garages packed with cars throughout all five boroughs are proof they do in fact drive.
      And don't complain about out of towers. You're the one who chose to live in a dense center of commerce.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brev653 One more thing, a lot of Manhattan traffic is comprised of Uber drivers and cabs, frequently used by the very Manhattanite locals who want to price other cars off the road. Despite Uber being responsible for much of the congestion they would only pay one fee per day which is absurd. Every fare should have a congestion fee tacked on since it becomes a unique private car for each ride.

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 having a driver's license doesn't mean we drive regularly, my dude.

  • @understAanding
    @understAanding 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I saw somebody nearly get crushed splitting to the left of a bus like you did at the end there. You're completely in the driver's blind spot.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      These smooth brains get squished then blame drivers. Cyclists should be required to take road safety courses and pass a test.

  • @Alex-g4q4r
    @Alex-g4q4r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree completely with what you said but the way you’re going across multiple lanes with cars around is so unbelievably dangerous. I don’t bike and I don’t have a car in the city but from my previous experiences as a driver that would be unbelievably nerve wracking and upsetting to see. You should be on the sides of the road not where the cars are moving. I know there’s no space created for you on that road (3rd) but just wow very dangerous.

  • @maroon9273
    @maroon9273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about public transit and commercial transportation. Even scooters, pedestrians, non-bicycle human powered devices? personal mobility devices (including handicapped people). Should they take a backseat to cyclcist?

  • @miscworker
    @miscworker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video. Pretty amusing to hear "immune to traffic" as you still have to weave around all this nonsense though, ha.
    I think congestion pricing should be ramped up for all drivers who aren't in business vehicles. Businesses who do need work to get done should take nowhere near as much fall as people who drive alone in these SUVs, it's so ridiculous.
    I no longer live in the city but hopefully one day I do return. Until then I hope some good decisions are made and congestion is helped with.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shouldn't cyclists not on business have to pay a congestion fee as well?

    • @miscworker
      @miscworker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@nonyafkinbznes1420 please show me all the times that cyclists have caused congestion and traffic in amounts that are even slightly comparable to those in their cars instead, especially in amounts that repeat in a routine manner
      short answer with or without a reply though, no, they shouldn't

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miscworker There's an entire bike lane blocked off to cars. Of course that's creating congestion.
      Funny how the advocates of more fees and taxes NEVER want to pay themselves.

    • @miscworker
      @miscworker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 classic stuff man

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 even if that were true, it would be the lane creating congestion, not the cyclist. So why would the cyclist have to pay for creating congestion they didn't create?

  • @Qwertworks
    @Qwertworks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Insane. I’ll never get it …

  • @derekjolly3680
    @derekjolly3680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd have to say that some of the lazy people I see here are non-hacking, non-pedaling e-bike slackers, like the ones passing you up on the left in these bike lanes. Frankly I think scooters can simply be annoying to drivers and to people in general, and that the most positive thing for the non-cycling public to see are regular bikes being ridden around. It's a traditional image, it shows the physical benefits, and almost everyone rode bikes when they were kids at least, so there's the common denominator with it. Good video. Enjoyed the NYC scenery.

  • @michaelbettinger3486
    @michaelbettinger3486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a great bike rider in traffic

  • @travelvideos
    @travelvideos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesn't look safe. I would not overtake bus on the left.

  • @TheWolfhoundSabre
    @TheWolfhoundSabre 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will never understand how people can live in NYC.

  • @FlowKio
    @FlowKio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lmao bike riders will always try to make themselves superior, I used to ride a bike but several crashes with terrible drivers says I’m safer in a car then outside especially in a metropolitan city

  • @nonyafkinbznes1420
    @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    0:43 You clearly passed a red light and again at 2:37. Mandate license plates for cyclists so they can be ticketed for behaving recklessly.

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You're making the assumption that it works the same as it does with a car. Running reds is inherently reckless in a car because of the poor visibility created by being so far behind your front bumper and having blind spots. It looking clear doesn't mean it IS clear, so the lights are necessary.
      This doesn't apply to bikes. Cyclists can accurately see whether it's safe to cross an intersection.
      It's basically the same thing as jaywalking. Some people are reckless idiots about it, but if you look both ways and have reasonable clearance it's perfectly safe to cross.
      I do think we need better enforcement on reckless cyclists, but simply running a red isn't really the problem.
      In some jurisdictions, this is actually taken into consideration in the local laws. The "Idaho stop" allows cyclists to treat red lights as stop signs, and stop signs as yields.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@brev653 "No I don't have to follow traffic law because reasons!"
      Yes you do. Passing a red light is illegal and cyclists have been hit for entering intersections without traffic light protection. This is one of many reasons why all cyclists should be mandated to take road safety courses and pass a test.

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@nonyafkinbznes1420do you also think every jaywalker should be ticketed?

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​​@@nonyafkinbznes1420let me put it another way. You, like most drivers, probably feel entitled to driving 5-10 over the speed limit.
      If a cop pulled you over for going 2 over on an empty highway, you'd look at them like they had two heads.
      The limit is the limit, and going even 1mph over it is, in fact, illegal.
      But I'm sure you don't think you should have to follow THAT traffic law.

    • @theofficialczex1708
      @theofficialczex1708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@brev653 Bicycles, like cars, must follow road traffic laws. I cycle to work, the grocery store, and everywhere around town. But I do not treat traffic laws as mere suggestions. You're what's wrong with cycling culture. You are the reason why motorists have a general disdain for cyclists.

  • @a.girouard2988
    @a.girouard2988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whether it's legal or not, from a safety perspective lane splitting is a stupid thing to do. It's dangerous enough as it is riding around on two wheels; no need to go out of your way making it more so.

    • @Michael-x9y6j
      @Michael-x9y6j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's always been illegal

    • @gadci4400
      @gadci4400 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In California if traffic is stopped or slow you can go up to 45 mph

    • @a.girouard2988
      @a.girouard2988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gadci4400Sure. Doesn't take away from what I said. No margin for error and nowhere to go if someone decided to change lanes without looking, or suddenly opens a car door. Or you hit a depression or debris on the road and lose your balance. Lane splitting is a needless danger to expose yourself to.

  • @redd_rl
    @redd_rl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if everyone rides micromobility traffic is an issue again.

    • @brev653
      @brev653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@redd_rl to an extent, but you can fit a hell of a lot more bikes and scooters on the road than cars. It's not meant to replace the subway, which will always be the most efficient way to move massive numbers of people, it's meant to handle trips that don't fit well into existing transit routes.