I think the guys at That Pedal Show talked about a product similar to this (If not the exact product). But I'm pretty sure their pro tip for installing was for the piece that goes on the pedal cut it into a triangle with the one point facing the edge. So it maintains its strength on the board, but when you take off pull from the end and it will come off easier. If that makes sense!
@@ytfeelslikenorthkorea I had the same problem. If the pedal is always going to be attached to a board, you don't need the rubber. Peel it off and there won't be any problems.
I’m gonna give the 3m dual lock a go. The problem with my current 3m Velcro is that the adhesive on the Velcro sticks to the pedal and comes away from the velcro.
I've been wanting a pedalboard for quite some time now, but kept putting off obtaining one because of the same Velcro problem. However, soon after viewing your video I happily bought some Dual Lock and a PT Pro. Thanks bro.:)
That is really cool gear 3M company is well known in the UK I'm about to buy a pedal board and this will work just fine on it ,thank you very much for this Demo
this stuff definitely locks together well. but the problem I had when I used this stuff a few years ago, was that the sticky part that goes on the surface comes off. I'd put pedal on the board and it could easily be pulled off (or even sometimes just fell off) because it the hold was so strong that it just ripped off the board completely
Yeah so sick of strong Velcro, loose adhesive products. It's so dumb. Why make a product that's stronger than the adhesive that holds it? When (if) they finally make an adhesive that stays long term even in hot humid environments, I'll be impressed
My issue is not that Velcro isn’t strong enough, it’s the strength of the glue. My pedals are stored in an upright position when on the board in its flight case. Eventually they all fall off and move about. Is this tape any better at solving that problem?
Actually the best way to mount your pedals is to take the pedals backplate off and place a Velcro strip like a long one not too long but long enough to where there they are sticking out the sides and then screw the backplate back in and what that does is it sandwiches the Velcro so it doesn't come off then just strap it to ur board I use a kobolt shelf from lowes it's nice
When I tried using the Velcro on the back of my pedals and then try to pull the pedal off it stuck to the metallic sticker on the back of the pedal and it separated from the pedal and it stuck to the board. It had pulled off the back of the pedal. Do I need to pull off the rubber backing on the pedals first? I have Donner's mini-pedals.
Thank you for the great video I subscribed to your channel because I am learning a lot from you. I have been thinking about duel lock for some time , I have limited studio space so I think this will come in handy fastening pedals and my audio interface to the bottom of my recording desk.
This is 3m Dual Lock. It’s not “industrial strength Velcro”. Velcro is a brand. The “Velcro” spoken of here is Velcro brand hook and loop. However I definitely agree that dual lock is the only way to go...
I've used this stuff before on my pedal board and I can honestly say it's an absolute nightmare to get your pedals off the pedal board again once they're on. I would not recommend this product just go with something like heavy-duty velcro. maybe it would be slightly different for you because your pedalboard has a gap to help you push the back of the pedal but I was using a flat pedal board at the time.
It's pretty easy once you know how to do it. Regular Velcro doesn't hold very well at all. The trick is to pull the pedal up and at an angle. If you try pulling up straight it won't come off. Start by lifting up one edge of the pedal in the corner and then twist at an angle. Comes off pretty easy!
Hey. I am planning to build my pedalboard and this video really gave me a nice tip on the road to perfection. What I would like to share with you is some MOOER INTERPLUGS. Instead of using patch cables, those are like patch cables, but there is not cable, there are just two heads so that you can connect the pedals very close and save space. Do you know them? Please check them out and share your opinion with me. For other patch cable that require some distance, I plan to buy Mogami bulk cable and some Switchcraft Pancake plugs. How about that?
First not all pedals have inputs that are aligned with other types of pedals which makes fine tuning the layout of a pedalboard a bit. Some pedal have inputs in the top of the pedal so they won't work. The fact that the jacks on these units have no give means that all the stress is on the pedal connectors and that is a recipe for disaster. Finally if you have any pedals on a board unsung the connectors and your pedals are attached to the board. You can't pull one pedal off without undoing a few which is a real pain.
It's not like velcro at all. Velcro is hook and loop with a soft side and hard side. This is hard on both sides with mushroom heads that lock together.
I think the guys at That Pedal Show talked about a product similar to this (If not the exact product). But I'm pretty sure their pro tip for installing was for the piece that goes on the pedal cut it into a triangle with the one point facing the edge. So it maintains its strength on the board, but when you take off pull from the end and it will come off easier. If that makes sense!
That could work. Thanks for the tip!
May I know the strength?
You sold me on it! I'm building my first board, which is literally a wood board right now.
Great, let me know how it turns out for you!
This is the exact product I needed for my pedalboard. I just ordered a roll. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. It was invaluable.
@@ytfeelslikenorthkorea I had the same problem. If the pedal is always going to be attached to a board, you don't need the rubber. Peel it off and there won't be any problems.
Thanks for the review. I'm gonna buy a 10ft roll for me first pedalboard build, within this week.
🤘🏽
I’m gonna give the 3m dual lock a go. The problem with my current 3m Velcro is that the adhesive on the Velcro sticks to the pedal and comes away from the velcro.
"If you want to pull this thing apart, good luck" *Pulls it apart* LOL
I did crack up too lol
well if it's attached to the pedal and to the board there's more surface area so it's more difficult to separate. But yeah that was funny.
He’s just really strong.
I've been wanting a pedalboard for quite some time now, but kept putting off obtaining one because of the same Velcro problem. However, soon after viewing your video I happily bought some Dual Lock and a PT Pro. Thanks bro.:)
That is really cool gear 3M company is well known in the UK I'm about to buy a pedal board and this will work just fine on it ,thank you very much for this Demo
this stuff definitely locks together well. but the problem I had when I used this stuff a few years ago, was that the sticky part that goes on the surface comes off. I'd put pedal on the board and it could easily be pulled off (or even sometimes just fell off) because it the hold was so strong that it just ripped off the board completely
Yeah so sick of strong Velcro, loose adhesive products. It's so dumb. Why make a product that's stronger than the adhesive that holds it? When (if) they finally make an adhesive that stays long term even in hot humid environments, I'll be impressed
I heard about this but thanks a lot for the demo!
My issue is not that Velcro isn’t strong enough, it’s the strength of the glue. My pedals are stored in an upright position when on the board in its flight case. Eventually they all fall off and move about. Is this tape any better at solving that problem?
Great video and great advice! I always buy used and pre-dinged. Saves me the heartache later. :)
All the info I needed. Thanks!!!
Dual Lock is the best 💯%!
Thanks! Do you remove the rubber pad on the bottom of the pedal first?
Actually the best way to mount your pedals is to take the pedals backplate off and place a Velcro strip like a long one not too long but long enough to where there they are sticking out the sides and then screw the backplate back in and what that does is it sandwiches the Velcro so it doesn't come off then just strap it to ur board
I use a kobolt shelf from lowes it's nice
N64Guy great tip
@@addictedtogear its been working great for me
Awesome stuff great video I'm definitely getting a roll for my new pedalboard
Go for it!
Great but how hard is it to take dual lock off when you want that stuff off your pedal?
There's a few different strengths of dual-lock. Which one did you use?
Not sure. I don't think the strength was indicated on it.
ADDICTED TO GEAR Okay. Thanks for the reply.
I think it's 3M dual lock SJ3550
@@addictedtogear yes there is...unreal...this is like cnn HALF THE NEWS
When I tried using the Velcro on the back of my pedals and then try to pull the pedal off it stuck to the metallic sticker on the back of the pedal and it separated from the pedal and it stuck to the board. It had pulled off the back of the pedal. Do I need to pull off the rubber backing on the pedals first? I have Donner's mini-pedals.
Thank you for the great video I subscribed to your channel because I am learning a lot from you. I have been thinking about duel lock for some time , I have limited studio space so I think this will come in handy fastening pedals and my audio interface to the bottom of my recording desk.
Thank you for watching. The product is really great and should work very well for that application.
ADDICTED TO GEAR do you really n an audio interface for sound ? I have a pre Sonus audiobox 2 myself
Great video. Enjoying your channel. Nice tips and useful information. How are you enjoying your Polytune 3 ? I Subscribed.
Thanks, just bought it on Amazon.
Hope you enjoy it!
hi, cool video. could you tell me te model, measures and how many pedals can you put on this pedaltrain, thank you
Its the classic 2 from pedal train. 24 x 12.5 x 3.5 inches (60.9 x 31.7 x 8.9 cm). 8 pedals and a power supply fit nicely on this pedal train.
Just bought 1. Ain’t cheap.
I'm very new to pedalboard stuff, so how do i attach the dual lock stuff to my pedalboard and pedals? just glue?
Hi Sam. No this sticks on just like typical velcro.
what number of 3M dual lock is this please?
This is 3m Dual Lock. It’s not “industrial strength Velcro”. Velcro is a brand. The “Velcro” spoken of here is Velcro brand hook and loop. However I definitely agree that dual lock is the only way to go...
“If you wanna pull this thing apart, good luck” proceeds to pull it apart 😂😂
I'm stronger than I look!
@@addictedtogear lol I figure but thanks you sold me
Do you have to take the rubber feet off of your pedals to use this? Thanks!
For feet that cover a small surface area (like those found on wahs), you can create an adapter by sticking two small squares of this back to back.
Hey, great video! Anyone have suggestions for getting the old Velcro adhesive/glue off of the pedaltrain metal bars?
Lighter fluid will work
Brian Chaze or nail polish (isopropanol)
Excellent, many thanks! They have it here in the UK on Amazon.co.uk. Please clarify though, how do you make an angle to remove a pedal? Thanks.
seconded! how do you make an angle? thanks!
I've used this stuff before on my pedal board and I can honestly say it's an absolute nightmare to get your pedals off the pedal board again once they're on. I would not recommend this product just go with something like heavy-duty velcro. maybe it would be slightly different for you because your pedalboard has a gap to help you push the back of the pedal but I was using a flat pedal board at the time.
It's pretty easy once you know how to do it. Regular Velcro doesn't hold very well at all. The trick is to pull the pedal up and at an angle. If you try pulling up straight it won't come off. Start by lifting up one edge of the pedal in the corner and then twist at an angle. Comes off pretty easy!
I had to use a flathead screwdriver, insane hard to get off and then couldnt put it back on!
Very good!
Hey. I am planning to build my pedalboard and this video really gave me a nice tip on the road to perfection. What I would like to share with you is some MOOER INTERPLUGS. Instead of using patch cables, those are like patch cables, but there is not cable, there are just two heads so that you can connect the pedals very close and save space. Do you know them? Please check them out and share your opinion with me. For other patch cable that require some distance, I plan to buy Mogami bulk cable and some Switchcraft Pancake plugs. How about that?
I would not recommend these for many reasons.
Can you name some?
First not all pedals have inputs that are aligned with other types of pedals which makes fine tuning the layout of a pedalboard a bit. Some pedal have inputs in the top of the pedal so they won't work. The fact that the jacks on these units have no give means that all the stress is on the pedal connectors and that is a recipe for disaster. Finally if you have any pedals on a board unsung the connectors and your pedals are attached to the board. You can't pull one pedal off without undoing a few which is a real pain.
ADDICTED TO GEAR couldn't say it better
It's not like velcro at all. Velcro is hook and loop with a soft side and hard side. This is hard on both sides with mushroom heads that lock together.
Is this the 250 or are you using the 400?
250
thank you mate
Thank you for watching
All velcro sucks due to the glue adhesive on the back losing it's grip on the pedal. I need a locking clamp that fastens any pedal to the board.
Check out my other videos for one of those.
Thanks
this guy told jim off for !@#$% an american pie !!!
How tf do you take it apart? Fucker is stronger than the 3m double sided backing
You have to pull at an angle
@@addictedtogear still ended up pulling the 3m off lol
Bono and Leonard Hofstadter s son!
Thanks much!
You bet!