I recognize that I'm kind of sanitizing Felix's actions by taking out the deal with Gabriel and the Red Moon incident, but I'm writing this from the perspective of knowing what the endgame for his character is. Plus, I don't think either really matter for his character because at no point do his past actions seem to affect what characters think of him in the long-term. And I like it better than the show's method of sanitizing his actions as 'He doesn't know any better.'
If Adrien was actually human, this would be interesting for Felix's story as well, one of the things with Felix is that he doesn't trust humans and doesn't respect them because of his past experiences, so if Adrien showed kindness to Felix even if he found out the truth this could be enough to make Felix reflect, precisely because Adrien is a human but he still treated Felix with the same kindness as he would with other people, and that would make Felix want to resolve things more peacefully, at least for Adrien in the beginning since he didn't deserve anything that Felix caused.
I like Felix, but I admit that they speed things up a lot, season 5 has so much that there isn't enough time for everything, so instead of making Félix improve more slowly, he kind of became a completely different person after Emotion because they thought there wasn't enough time(even though I think it was possible to give time for him and they focused on things that weren't necessary).
Which would've been fixed if there wasn't so much filler in seasons 2-3 as they're essentially the same season on repeat and if they actually had the plot beats from seasons 4-5 in those previous seasons to flesh them out, they would be pretty solid.
I keep saying if they didn't waste so much time on toxic romances Felix could have been better wrote alongside the season finale I understand their need of adrienette I don't like it but ok but Felix and Kagami? What the hell?
I don’t know- I think the Red Moon still works. Felix is clearly not mentally well at that point, and he sees all Senti-beings as living creatures. He treated the Red Moon with respect. It quite literally caused him to break down crying when he was forced to kill the Red Moon. I don’t see why it doesn’t make sense he wouldn’t summon senti-biengs. That’s the whole purpose of the Peacock Miraculous. His beef with Gabe is just that he misused that power.
Felix didn't want anyone to be using the Peacock Miraculous at all. His problem is the idea of creating a being that you will just destroy later. Unless a reason is given as to why it's suddenly okay, he wouldn't create one for such a short term reason like Once Upon A Time. That's why he was in so much pain when he had to destroy Red Moon.
They really crammed Felix's backstory into one episode. If the Agreste arc only lasted 3 seasons, he would've been a great villain for season 3, especially if Adrien accepts being a (kinda) sentimonster while Felix was enraged by it.
Felix really should've been the complete opposite to Adrien and be a senti-monster that Adrien's mother made to help her sister who had infertility problems. Felix would be given the knowledge of this from a letter written from his aunt to his mother and because he knows he isn't a human, he decides to claim the peacock miraculous to ensure nobody can control him. This in turn leads to him manipulating his mother into taking him to his uncle, under the guise that he wants to hangout with his estranged cousin. This would allow him to be involved in the story and due to Adrien's trusting nature, Felix starts destroying Adrien's reputation for being the real boy of the two.
Felix wouldn't fall for Kagami in my rewrite, he would fall for Bridgette, who was Marinette's childhood best friend that has come to stay with her family at this time. Felix would develop conflicted feelings towards humanity, due to his developing feelings and this would create a potential way for him to be redeemed, since he shows a caring side to Bridgette.
This is actually the direction I thought the show was going after Season 3, with sentimonster Felix being made as a copy of Adrien and the rings being *Felix*'s amok.
@@billykaplan9915 True, but I want to give Felix a reason to feel conflicted about humanity. Though now that I think about it, he could just develop a more brotherly bond with Adrien and chooses to not date. This could be due to the amoks not having any reproductive urges.
I feel like Felix's existence was for the sole purpose of making Chloe look worse in the same way Vesperia was, because Thomas Astruc really wants to make it clear to the audience that Marinette will always give special treatment to those who aren't Chloe, because "hE's gOoD aNd sHe'S nOt", and nothing bad Felix does matters because he isn't Chloe.
me personally i've always liked the concept of felix being the ml a lot more than it being adrien, oh also btw PV marinette is still marinette, she always was! "bridgette" is a fandom given name to seperate the two !
Felix was my favorite character until Season 5. I think Emotion and onward, completely ruined his character by rushing his development and then backpedaling on some of that development through the creation (but mostly destruction) of Once Upon A Time.
I like what you've done because not only have you given Felix an actual consistent motivation, but you had the character grow from his experience and end up at nearly the same place as his canon counterpart. Given how "all over the place" Felix is even in the same episode (see "Emotion"), this is an impressive feat. I also love how you tie Felix to Adrien's development instead of Felix being yet another (eventual) ally to Marinette to the point where he was entrusted with her secret identity...in the same show that even chided Nino this season for blabbing about superhero identities..
Not gonna lie. I had such high hopes for Felix. The same way I had such high hopes for queen bee and it seems the bias’s of the creator is putting the shows quality at great risk Love the rewrite though. 10/10
I just want to bring this up "Bridgette" as refered to for the PV was still always Marinette it's just a name given by the fandom to Anime/PV Marinette to seperate the two from one another
honestly I feel torn about felix because I actually liked his characteriztion when he first appeared...he wasnt a good person...but he was interesting and by contrasting him with adrien...adrien actually felt more interesting because adrien wasnt dumb...he understood felix was messing with him but chose to pretend to be unaware of the pranks because he felt felix was upset and lashing out since felix didnt know how to deal with his hurt emotions properly...and while he was firmer with felix when it came to finding out what happened with his freinds...I actually respected that adrien stuck to not only [rotecting his friends from hurting his couisn but made sure to protect his cousin because thats the right thing to do...he wasnt above enjoying seeing felix get some karma on the rooftop but he stil made sure to protect him even when felix didnt really deserve it and he still made sure felix knew if he needed t talk adrien was there...and I enjoyed seeing adrien pretend to be mean and how felix and other slike plagg had assumed adrien was naive while WE know adrien was actually aware. and it made a interesting contrast that adrien was willing to still be there for felix becuase he understood felix went through a great loss recently but how adrien's friends dont actually have a very strong relationship with adrien and turned against/doubted adrien pretty quickly over the 'adrien lashing out video that felix sent' despite how they knew adrien was going to have a rough day on his mom disappearance anniversary and how lots of them have lashed out or acted out over smaller things than that(including marinette). I think it could have been interesting if they had used that felix is actually a pretty good actor where even gabe thought that felix was remorsful for a bit ad how felix had gotte away with them believing he was remorseful. it felt odd to me that adrien was so negative toward feli when felix returned when adrien had been so understanding when felix apologized. I feel like it could have been interesting if they used how felix had assumed and kept assuming thatadrien was easily tricked and naive while WE know adrien actually isnt a fool and is honestly more aware than others give him credit for...since oddly enough I think adrien shines a bit when dealing with felix and lila or is compared and contrasted with...even if I do think they kept giving too many moments to felix rather than adrien. I kindof wish they had used how felix and the mom seem more old money and moer classist at times since felix's mom was also willing to ignore that gabe didnt want to be touched and how the show has brought up gabe used to be working class who build his empire from scratch/new money. honestly lowkey I kindof wish we saw felix try to prove the people around adrien are shallow or don't care about adrien properly since through most of season 4 we mostly saw adrien lose chloe as a friend, ladybug honestly wasnt really paying attention to chat's issues. kagami dumped him fairly quickly due to her idea of who adrien is and him no opening upin the way she wanst mixed with her knowing he lied about why he ditched their date. felix knew about marinett'e crush before adrien did...I kindo wish we saw him judge or or use that(I'm STILL angry how the show handled adrien finding ot about her cry on drien from teh icecream man in a outof character way for teh icecream man)...since as sweet at mari can be...her feelings do come across as kindof shallow through most of the show. felix falling for kagami honestly feels kindof weird since i'm still waiting for kagami to find out adrien is chat and to reflect on their breakup since he id have a good reason to lie.
it would be a cool development and makes the peacock miraclous usable for felix. I he came to the conclusion to make senti monsters that he keeps as companions and has them on missions. Like his own base like a cave where he can use the senti monster heroically. Where they are used and not wipe from exisitence. Tbh i do not care about sentimonsters they only exists for a few minutes of life then disappears. Only so called sent monster i care about is adrien and kagami. Even then its sad that they aren't really real
I don't keep up with Miraculous except for your videos, but I can still say that this is probably leagues above what actually happens in canon, lol...good stuff
It was a side effect of Kagami becoming a Sentibeing. Someone needed to be responsible. And like I said in a previous video, she was kind of a tool to give Gabe technology for season 5.
I would point out one thing; as far as I know, "Brigitte" wasn't a thing in Pv. She was Marinette back than too. Félix really was Félix, later becoming Adrien, but Brigitte was a name given by fans
@@ethancox9737 In regards to Felix, I can't think of a love interest that would have a more interesting narrative impact on him besides Kagami. She's the only character that really relates to his feelings of being controlled besides Adrien. And without that factor, pairing him up with any other girl feels like it would wind up being a cliche 'bad boy, good girl' story that would barely affect his plotline. And I'd rather he be single. As for Kagami, I wouldn't really put her with anyone else besides maybe Chloe, largely because I think her being either Felix or Chloe's partner would allow her to be an even funnier character. Basically, if I don't think I can get an interesting story out of them being in a relationship, I'd keep them single or make the relationship an irrelevant background thing.
@@ethancox9737 Sorry, I just think they'd be boring. And kind of obvious. And honestly, I don't think they'd have that much chemistry as they are in the show besides bonding over how dumb their exes are.
I recognize that I'm kind of sanitizing Felix's actions by taking out the deal with Gabriel and the Red Moon incident, but I'm writing this from the perspective of knowing what the endgame for his character is. Plus, I don't think either really matter for his character because at no point do his past actions seem to affect what characters think of him in the long-term. And I like it better than the show's method of sanitizing his actions as 'He doesn't know any better.'
By didn't he just make Hawkmoth disappear?
I hate his character “development” so much💀💀
Ehhh idk, that kinda makes it worse imo. 💀😅
But I DO like your rewrite of him!
If Adrien was actually human, this would be interesting for Felix's story as well, one of the things with Felix is that he doesn't trust humans and doesn't respect them because of his past experiences, so if Adrien showed kindness to Felix even if he found out the truth this could be enough to make Felix reflect, precisely because Adrien is a human but he still treated Felix with the same kindness as he would with other people, and that would make Felix want to resolve things more peacefully, at least for Adrien in the beginning since he didn't deserve anything that Felix caused.
Mhm! 👏🏾
" if I have one regret it's that I'm dying" -- Colt Fathom probably
I like Felix, but I admit that they speed things up a lot, season 5 has so much that there isn't enough time for everything, so instead of making Félix improve more slowly, he kind of became a completely different person after Emotion because they thought there wasn't enough time(even though I think it was possible to give time for him and they focused on things that weren't necessary).
Which would've been fixed if there wasn't so much filler in seasons 2-3 as they're essentially the same season on repeat and if they actually had the plot beats from seasons 4-5 in those previous seasons to flesh them out, they would be pretty solid.
That's what I was thinking
I keep saying if they didn't waste so much time on toxic romances Felix could have been better wrote alongside the season finale I understand their need of adrienette I don't like it but ok but Felix and Kagami? What the hell?
I don’t know- I think the Red Moon still works. Felix is clearly not mentally well at that point, and he sees all Senti-beings as living creatures. He treated the Red Moon with respect. It quite literally caused him to break down crying when he was forced to kill the Red Moon.
I don’t see why it doesn’t make sense he wouldn’t summon senti-biengs. That’s the whole purpose of the Peacock Miraculous. His beef with Gabe is just that he misused that power.
Felix didn't want anyone to be using the Peacock Miraculous at all. His problem is the idea of creating a being that you will just destroy later. Unless a reason is given as to why it's suddenly okay, he wouldn't create one for such a short term reason like Once Upon A Time. That's why he was in so much pain when he had to destroy Red Moon.
Wouldn't Felix hate the main cast for killing senti monsters specifically when they sent them to the sun. Knowing they are heroes at some point
Pretty much. That's why I differentiated them.
@@JesseGolo yeah good choice. I didn't get to that point of the video before I typed that
They really crammed Felix's backstory into one episode. If the Agreste arc only lasted 3 seasons, he would've been a great villain for season 3, especially if Adrien accepts being a (kinda) sentimonster while Felix was enraged by it.
Felix really should've been the complete opposite to Adrien and be a senti-monster that Adrien's mother made to help her sister who had infertility problems. Felix would be given the knowledge of this from a letter written from his aunt to his mother and because he knows he isn't a human, he decides to claim the peacock miraculous to ensure nobody can control him. This in turn leads to him manipulating his mother into taking him to his uncle, under the guise that he wants to hangout with his estranged cousin. This would allow him to be involved in the story and due to Adrien's trusting nature, Felix starts destroying Adrien's reputation for being the real boy of the two.
Felix wouldn't fall for Kagami in my rewrite, he would fall for Bridgette, who was Marinette's childhood best friend that has come to stay with her family at this time. Felix would develop conflicted feelings towards humanity, due to his developing feelings and this would create a potential way for him to be redeemed, since he shows a caring side to Bridgette.
This is actually the direction I thought the show was going after Season 3, with sentimonster Felix being made as a copy of Adrien and the rings being *Felix*'s amok.
@@MikeFireheart or maybe stay single? I mean that isn't bad either
@@billykaplan9915 True, but I want to give Felix a reason to feel conflicted about humanity. Though now that I think about it, he could just develop a more brotherly bond with Adrien and chooses to not date. This could be due to the amoks not having any reproductive urges.
@@MikeFireheart exactly plus truth to be told he's a very unstable person so not ready for a relationship
I feel like Felix's existence was for the sole purpose of making Chloe look worse in the same way Vesperia was, because Thomas Astruc really wants to make it clear to the audience that Marinette will always give special treatment to those who aren't Chloe, because "hE's gOoD aNd sHe'S nOt", and nothing bad Felix does matters because he isn't Chloe.
me personally i've always liked the concept of felix being the ml a lot more than it being adrien, oh also btw PV marinette is still marinette, she always was! "bridgette" is a fandom given name to seperate the two !
I don't know, I think PV Felix seemed like kind of a cliche edgelord.
Personally, I would have Kagami's mom not be so bad in the first place, since her being a villain instead of just uptight came out of nowhere.
Felix was my favorite character until Season 5. I think Emotion and onward, completely ruined his character by rushing his development and then backpedaling on some of that development through the creation (but mostly destruction) of Once Upon A Time.
I like what you've done because not only have you given Felix an actual consistent motivation, but you had the character grow from his experience and end up at nearly the same place as his canon counterpart. Given how "all over the place" Felix is even in the same episode (see "Emotion"), this is an impressive feat. I also love how you tie Felix to Adrien's development instead of Felix being yet another (eventual) ally to Marinette to the point where he was entrusted with her secret identity...in the same show that even chided Nino this season for blabbing about superhero identities..
The Nino thing was to make the brainless kitty jealous though
Not gonna lie. I had such high hopes for Felix. The same way I had such high hopes for queen bee and it seems the bias’s of the creator is putting the shows quality at great risk
Love the rewrite though. 10/10
Felix and kagami got no build up and came out of nowhere I don't like it at all sigh
It makes me feel like the only reason Kagami likes Felix is because he looks like adrien
@@medley_menace9268 that's what I think too. It muddies everything because flex looks like Adrien
I just want to bring this up "Bridgette" as refered to for the PV was still always Marinette it's just a name given by the fandom to Anime/PV Marinette to seperate the two from one another
honestly I feel torn about felix because I actually liked his characteriztion when he first appeared...he wasnt a good person...but he was interesting and by contrasting him with adrien...adrien actually felt more interesting because adrien wasnt dumb...he understood felix was messing with him but chose to pretend to be unaware of the pranks because he felt felix was upset and lashing out since felix didnt know how to deal with his hurt emotions properly...and while he was firmer with felix when it came to finding out what happened with his freinds...I actually respected that adrien stuck to not only [rotecting his friends from hurting his couisn but made sure to protect his cousin because thats the right thing to do...he wasnt above enjoying seeing felix get some karma on the rooftop but he stil made sure to protect him even when felix didnt really deserve it and he still made sure felix knew if he needed t talk adrien was there...and I enjoyed seeing adrien pretend to be mean and how felix and other slike plagg had assumed adrien was naive while WE know adrien was actually aware.
and it made a interesting contrast that adrien was willing to still be there for felix becuase he understood felix went through a great loss recently but how adrien's friends dont actually have a very strong relationship with adrien and turned against/doubted adrien pretty quickly over the 'adrien lashing out video that felix sent' despite how they knew adrien was going to have a rough day on his mom disappearance anniversary and how lots of them have lashed out or acted out over smaller things than that(including marinette).
I think it could have been interesting if they had used that felix is actually a pretty good actor where even gabe thought that felix was remorsful for a bit ad how felix had gotte away with them believing he was remorseful. it felt odd to me that adrien was so negative toward feli when felix returned when adrien had been so understanding when felix apologized.
I feel like it could have been interesting if they used how felix had assumed and kept assuming thatadrien was easily tricked and naive while WE know adrien actually isnt a fool and is honestly more aware than others give him credit for...since oddly enough I think adrien shines a bit when dealing with felix and lila or is compared and contrasted with...even if I do think they kept giving too many moments to felix rather than adrien.
I kindof wish they had used how felix and the mom seem more old money and moer classist at times since felix's mom was also willing to ignore that gabe didnt want to be touched and how the show has brought up gabe used to be working class who build his empire from scratch/new money.
honestly lowkey I kindof wish we saw felix try to prove the people around adrien are shallow or don't care about adrien properly since through most of season 4 we mostly saw adrien lose chloe as a friend, ladybug honestly wasnt really paying attention to chat's issues. kagami dumped him fairly quickly due to her idea of who adrien is and him no opening upin the way she wanst mixed with her knowing he lied about why he ditched their date. felix knew about marinett'e crush before adrien did...I kindo wish we saw him judge or or use that(I'm STILL angry how the show handled adrien finding ot about her cry on drien from teh icecream man in a outof character way for teh icecream man)...since as sweet at mari can be...her feelings do come across as kindof shallow through most of the show. felix falling for kagami honestly feels kindof weird since i'm still waiting for kagami to find out adrien is chat and to reflect on their breakup since he id have a good reason to lie.
I really love your rewrite ideas! It's fun to explore different ways the show can be changed and made better.
Pretty good rewrite, but that's because there was some thought into it.
it would be a cool development and makes the peacock miraclous usable for felix. I he came to the conclusion to make senti monsters that he keeps as companions and has them on missions. Like his own base like a cave where he can use the senti monster heroically. Where they are used and not wipe from exisitence. Tbh i do not care about sentimonsters they only exists for a few minutes of life then disappears. Only so called sent monster i care about is adrien and kagami. Even then its sad that they aren't really real
I don't keep up with Miraculous except for your videos, but I can still say that this is probably leagues above what actually happens in canon, lol...good stuff
Tell me, how do you feel about Kagami's mom going from just a little too strict to being a villain? I think that was very mean of the writers?
It was a side effect of Kagami becoming a Sentibeing. Someone needed to be responsible.
And like I said in a previous video, she was kind of a tool to give Gabe technology for season 5.
@@JesseGolo So would she be nicer in your rewrite?
@@ethancox9737She'd be the same as she was before season 5.
@@JesseGolo Ok, good.
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This isn't a rewrite of Felix, it's like half the show, and honestly I'm on board
I would point out one thing; as far as I know, "Brigitte" wasn't a thing in Pv. She was Marinette back than too. Félix really was Félix, later becoming Adrien, but Brigitte was a name given by fans
Is Felix going to discover his cousin adrien is cat noir in season 6
Is the current Felix count as a Anti-hero?
Tell me, would you be willing to do another rewrite for people who think Felix and Kagami are better off with different people?
Imma be real, I'd probably just make them single.
@@JesseGolo Why?
@@ethancox9737 In regards to Felix, I can't think of a love interest that would have a more interesting narrative impact on him besides Kagami. She's the only character that really relates to his feelings of being controlled besides Adrien. And without that factor, pairing him up with any other girl feels like it would wind up being a cliche 'bad boy, good girl' story that would barely affect his plotline. And I'd rather he be single.
As for Kagami, I wouldn't really put her with anyone else besides maybe Chloe, largely because I think her being either Felix or Chloe's partner would allow her to be an even funnier character.
Basically, if I don't think I can get an interesting story out of them being in a relationship, I'd keep them single or make the relationship an irrelevant background thing.
@@JesseGolo Why don't you think Kagami would be good with Luka? I think that was the original plan.
@@ethancox9737 Sorry, I just think they'd be boring. And kind of obvious.
And honestly, I don't think they'd have that much chemistry as they are in the show besides bonding over how dumb their exes are.
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