I enjoyed the special for what it was, but I really feel like it might be the worst one because the other ones were just irrelevant at worst. They didn't make me the next season was gonna be bad. And yet, it's the special that's actually plot relevant to the show, which might make it second best (After Paris). This does give me ideas for more Miraculous videos though. I swear, London was more relevant in the Paris special when they went there to get out of Hawkmoth's range.
When did they go to London in the Paris special? All I remember is that the akumatized alya opened a portal to the reversed paris, so the heroes can put Gabriel's akumatized object there.
they actually address, why they cant use timetravel to snag the butterfly miraculous. future bunnyx got sent back in time during the timetagger fight, which causes the rabbit miraculous to become a family heirloom in her family, and was also the catalyst for the timebreaker episode, and eventually reveals, that she will be the rabbit-miraculous-holder. so preventing lila from getting the miraculous, would alter bunnyxes timeline, potentially making her never become the holder of the rabbit miraculous, and potentially creating a Fry-hole. Rule number one for fixing things with timetravel: dont break anything else, while trying to fix something. Adult Bunnyx once said that she knows hawkmoths identity, but cant tell Marinette, as it would alter, how things played out. gabe was supposed to make the wish at that point in time, but not earlier.
@@proclarushtaonasat Yeah, but the problem is that Bunnix has interfered with how things are supposed to play out. Chat Blanc is the big example. If Bunnix can prevent that, what exactly is stopping her from preventing everything else. The way time travel is handled in this show, it doesn't feel like they're not allowed to alter things. Just that the show will only let them do it to the extent that it keeps the show from ending. Also, that creates a causality problem. Lila could only send Bunnix back because Bunnix didn't stop her and because Bunnix didn't stop her, Lila could send her back. Which came first?
You are forgetting the fact that Lila Watched the final battle and was also there akumitized! And we know that waterway is FLOWING! And the miraculous floats! And remember MARINETTE IS FAIRLY NEW TO BEING THE GUARDIAN SO OF COURSE SHE DOESNOT KNOW THAT THE MIRACULOUS CAN FLOAT! The only other one that was in water was the bee miraculous and it was destroyed by a cataclysm!
At first I assumed maybe it was cause Lila was a minor, but then I remembered the Paris special said when it’s used for evil it’s the same as adult powers
they never explicitely stated that before, but often when people were deakumatized, they say something like "huh, what happened?" they often only vaguely remember being akumatized, but not exactly what happens, unless they break out of the akumatization via their own willpower. markhov is a robot, so he can be the exception to the rule.
Wasn't there that time when she went back in time to stop herself from leaving that note for Adrian, the one where she erased her name from the love note, she used miraculous then she forgot about the future events?
@@dedrickjones8570 um, not really. Ladybug still remembers Cat Blanc. She just doesnt have the memories of the original timeline ladybug (the one that was killed by cat blancs cataclysm), as that was a different person entirely.
@@proclarushtaonasat nooru said, 'Forget everything.' Which means one wouldn't be able to remember anything which is fine for those hijacked but those who willingly got Akuma still remember what happened and the qwamii lumped them in as well.
Things i didnt like: Adrien barely being in this movie, Alix has to stay away from her friends even longer and considering S6 is in a new school year, she has been there for at least 3 months, Lila being the villain for one day and immediately winning when it took Gabriel multiple tries, Nathalie knowing who LB and Marinette not evn tellling CN who Gabriel truly was. Things i liked: More Alix and even older Bunnix, though it sets the precendent that the heroes are doing this until they are in their 60's.
Yeah the forgetting everything was so strange I was like "did I watch the show the writers wrote!?" Cause I thought it was where they don't remember cause they're not theirselves when they're evil 😾
Honestly, I thought it made sense why Lila / Cherise would be forgetful, and when I saw specifically of what she exactly wanted to do. Especially when she’s deciding her next objective. She is jumbling between different super villain powers through her miraculous. She jumping through time, definitely spying on people like Marinette, and finding ways to understand peoples emotions how to control their feelings to her. If anything, it’s just making her split personality more real and extra scary knowing what she’s capable without a miraculous.
To me, it seems like akumatized villains only remember part of the things, might be everything or nothing. And here, the writers just did what they did.
0:54 the only time in the actual series where it seems like akumatized villains forget is in ikari gozen, so it was with a character with reason to lie
Is the villain even Lila? Wasn't she seen caught off guard or something? I thought someone took the miraculous from her. And the disguises are a way to gaslight the audience into thinking it is still her. Also if it was Lila wouldn't they have recognized her since only Miraculous transformations hide the identity and Akumatized transformations do not.
miraculous have quantum masking and akumas do not. however if the akumatization completely changes your appearance, there is no way to tell. and the timetravel and ghost transformations completely hide her features. she also doesnt talk, which prevents them from recognizing her voice.
Finally a special that bring more to the plot than just side characters that show only in the final and really contribute to the story of series, being a link between seasons. I really like they show Lila as clever intelligent character, who first thing was made herself a time travel akuma, something what Gabriel never done in the Ladybug. Her change in apperance is understand, knowing that she's on the run now. Fight scenes were really good, talk with Kagami and Nathalie too. But how I really want to made rant on this one too... to be honest I can accept that it's just a young kid show, something I should treat as something with sense of My Littlle Pony or propably even less, and that the contuinity and what characters learn or how their story goes dosen't matter, and logic there is pointless. Warn there because are spoilers. First off, she let Kagami just go with her mother, knowing she's ally of the terrorist? Yea I know S5 finale, but it's still look like that only villain who pay somehow was Chloe. Not even talk with her, not threat "do something similar and you will be ended"? Then next go, akuma steal her Miracolous... does really she not do any preparations like, just ask Kwamis to be on guard? Basically Plagg could stop this from the beggining but whatever, let's go. Gabriel do his wish and I see Gimmie see nothing wrong with akumatised Lila being near, because why Kwami of reality should care about akuma who get sudden nearby. And then Marinette find a time to speak with Nathalie and destroy all things relate to him, but not time to search there for damn Butterfly Miracolous? Not back to civil and ask Tikki, Plagg or maybe other Kwamis to help search for Butterfly? She basically let Lila steal it (Ofc other question is how Lila get Butterfly. Only option is she somehow get by miracle when Wish was made, becasuse I can't see how she get down there to get Miracolous). Bunnyx burrow? Can't they look if someone get near or inside mansion, to just look who's Hawky? I knew it will end quick Lila reign, but damn, for some reason good guys don't do reasonable things. Or when Mari finally get notebook, can't they search in burrow whose one is this? And really, if the akuma object not need to be on person, just like what Nathalie show, then why Gabe as Hawky not use this more often? Why not Nathalie suggest something similar to him, really teenage Villain Sue do all this only on herself? Why Mari bring back her notebook, not read it first and then try to learn whos hawky, what she know and if she can't do any of that against her? Still anyway propably best special, because it was really only one that contribute anything to the story. Still I think it would be better with Lila just as before, side villain, with propably a Tomoe somehow obtain Butterfly (with her technology in his lair have much more sense), with Lila at her side as accompliance who ofc want to backstab her. After S3 they made her fly off for nearly one and half season, and then sudden, thx to plot powers, they made her a "real threat". IDK if I would not prefer to watch than usual hawky of the week just watch LB and CN fight those aliens, evil queens and whatever Bunnyx show in Time Tagger
well, bunnyx once basically admited, she knew who hawkmoth was, but couldnt tell ladybug, as it would change the timeline, as bunnyx only knew hawkmoths identity, because she knew, that ladybug defeated monarch in season 5. Thats also why they couldnt use timetravel to prevent cerise from getting the butterfly miraculous, as the timetagger fight sent adult bunnyx back in time, which caused the camoflaged rabbit-miraculous to become the family heirloom in her own backstory. so preventing cerise from getting the butterfly, would erase bunnyx from existence.
My biggest problem with the special and the finally is why didn't u immediately return the chat miraculous like u know how dangerous it is to have both the miraculous under the same roof not to mention after finding out everything plagg would have wanted to be with Adrian to comfort him so that's my biggest beef with it it's apparently so dangerous for either one to know each other's Identities but it's ok for her to have both the miraculouses like huh that would have been a simple solution the whole special would have happened except chat noir would have been there too Marinette grabes her miraculous from the past and bunnix grabes chat noir everything is explained and he helps take her down
@@reviewsandtheories4941 oh yea, how I not see this... Yea Marinette have with her cat ring was asking for problem. Well the show handle Adrien as side character so it's not suprise for me that he was basically not in this special. Anyway why call it "London" when London here was only for some scenes, when they grab Adi and Kagami. It's not that this city was relevant to the plot anyway. Better would be call "race of time" or "rise of new Hawkmoth".
@@Shimospeher exactly like she may have had the ladybug miraculous but she couldn't do anything with it until she gets chats miraculous and it's not he's revealed his identity to anyone willingly the only people who knew is Luka and bunnix Luka is very careful and vague about it not only hinting Adrian and bunnix stays in her burrow so even with time powers she wouldn't have figured out char noir basically he was the one standing between her wish like they could have made this special about him easily but of course they won't do that
I think I have an explanation for the Memory Loss. I think the person we see isn't actually Lila but The Supreme who is the one who attacked her at the end of season 5. I think she fled here after being chased away by Betterfly after Ladybug and Chat Noir Revolted against her. I think she swapped with Lila so that the hero's from HER world wouldn't come after her. I think she know's about the powers of the Miraculous but doesn't have experience using it so she doesn't know that if you reject the Akuma you'll remeber everything. OR it could be that you only remember everything when its someone ELSE that akumatize's you and you reject their Akuma. Remember with Star Train she didn't remember anything either and she wasn't under the Butterfly's Miraculous Wielders control.
How would she not? The Supreme literally changed kwamis to make them unable to make a wish and should definitely have ample knowledge of how the Miraculouses work. As for your latter point, that doesn’t make sense as we see Gabriel akumatise himself multiple times and remember everything (like that one time for the S5 finale and for Dearest Family) so yeah
@@dabest8777 Its just a theory. She could of not used them to extent that Gabriel had. Like how Marinette used the miraculous only using the base powers when she fused kwami's. Its been established that the limits of the miraculous are those set by the user. She might have not used the miraculous before or only used it a few times. I don't think the Supreme changed the Kwami's but those things in their mouths prevent the wish from being granted and left that message to anyone that tries. Another thing to note is that she wore the Miraculous Upside-down as opposed to how Lila wore it right side up. I think that might be the writers trying to show that they are different people. I may be wrong and the memory is retconned. But I Stand Firm that the new Villian is The Supreme!!!
@@lockskelington314 using a miraculous a lot is irrelevant, considering how competent the new villain is with the new miraculous and how Marinette picked up the butterfly very easily in the reverse special. My point is that you would think someone as powerful as the supreme with access to the same information Lila has would know a lot about the miraculous via the Grimoire or something else
@@dabest8777 I think that the Supreme is starting again from scratch with a miraculous that she lost in her own world. She could not be used to doing her own Dirty work and with a miraculous that she has a limited understanding thinking that their are limitations put in place on the miraculous based on either a false narrative or her own experience with BetterFly. Just think of how long it took for someone to reject being Akumatized or even out rightly turning back mid Villain tantrum. I don't think she would have experienced that in her world given that BetterFly is a Hero and the Villians wouldn't try and save the Civilians turned Hero's via talking them out of thus not giving the idea that one can snap out of being Akumatized by themselves. The Supreme also has her own nasty magic so its quite possible she used her own method of De-akumatizing herself that doesn't allow one to remember just like how Shadybug and Claw Noir had their limiters removed and it was slowly killing them in exchange for unlimited uses of their powers.
@@lockskelington314 but my argument was that the supreme should have a wealth of knowledge on the Miraculouses, she would and in fact should have access to the Grimoire either from her own world and even if she doesn’t, she must at least have access to it in this world considering Lila’s whole hoaxer thing. Not to mention the fact that the Supreme managed to, on their first try, create 2 near perfect akumatised villains with exact power sets when experienced users such as Gabe couldn’t make villains even close to that before. Not to mention the fact that if the Supreme truly did transport to this universe, then how would they have done so without a miraculous power? I’m saying this because is she had access to a miraculous, whether it be the Peacock, Rooster or any others which allow for multiverse travel, then why didn’t she use it in this special? The Peacock would’ve been incredibly useful due to the fact that it would completely eliminate the whole notebook thing regardless of the fact that it’s a retcon. The Rooster is already its own broken beast. The whole idea of the supreme being the person we see in the special is already flawed on its own considering the only methods we’ve seen thus far to universe jump have been via Miraculouses which we see none of except the Bunny, Ladybug and Butterfly (well, there is the cat but not really important to this special)
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I enjoyed the special for what it was, but I really feel like it might be the worst one because the other ones were just irrelevant at worst. They didn't make me the next season was gonna be bad. And yet, it's the special that's actually plot relevant to the show, which might make it second best (After Paris).
This does give me ideas for more Miraculous videos though.
I swear, London was more relevant in the Paris special when they went there to get out of Hawkmoth's range.
When did they go to London in the Paris special? All I remember is that the akumatized alya opened a portal to the reversed paris, so the heroes can put Gabriel's akumatized object there.
@@usernotfound_____yet They did all that in London. It was to get out of Hawkmoth's range so he couldn't sense or undo Ubiquity's powers.
they actually address, why they cant use timetravel to snag the butterfly miraculous. future bunnyx got sent back in time during the timetagger fight, which causes the rabbit miraculous to become a family heirloom in her family, and was also the catalyst for the timebreaker episode, and eventually reveals, that she will be the rabbit-miraculous-holder. so preventing lila from getting the miraculous, would alter bunnyxes timeline, potentially making her never become the holder of the rabbit miraculous, and potentially creating a Fry-hole.
Rule number one for fixing things with timetravel: dont break anything else, while trying to fix something. Adult Bunnyx once said that she knows hawkmoths identity, but cant tell Marinette, as it would alter, how things played out. gabe was supposed to make the wish at that point in time, but not earlier.
@@proclarushtaonasat Yeah, but the problem is that Bunnix has interfered with how things are supposed to play out. Chat Blanc is the big example. If Bunnix can prevent that, what exactly is stopping her from preventing everything else.
The way time travel is handled in this show, it doesn't feel like they're not allowed to alter things. Just that the show will only let them do it to the extent that it keeps the show from ending.
Also, that creates a causality problem. Lila could only send Bunnix back because Bunnix didn't stop her and because Bunnix didn't stop her, Lila could send her back. Which came first?
You are forgetting the fact that Lila Watched the final battle and was also there akumitized! And we know that waterway is FLOWING! And the miraculous floats! And remember MARINETTE IS FAIRLY NEW TO BEING THE GUARDIAN SO OF COURSE SHE DOESNOT KNOW THAT THE MIRACULOUS CAN FLOAT! The only other one that was in water was the bee miraculous and it was destroyed by a cataclysm!
I'm so glad you talked about memory loss being the biggest retcon. It feels like everyone's completely missed that fact
At first I assumed maybe it was cause Lila was a minor, but then I remembered the Paris special said when it’s used for evil it’s the same as adult powers
they never explicitely stated that before, but often when people were deakumatized, they say something like "huh, what happened?" they often only vaguely remember being akumatized, but not exactly what happens, unless they break out of the akumatization via their own willpower. markhov is a robot, so he can be the exception to the rule.
Wasn't there that time when she went back in time to stop herself from leaving that note for Adrian, the one where she erased her name from the love note, she used miraculous then she forgot about the future events?
@@dedrickjones8570 um, not really. Ladybug still remembers Cat Blanc. She just doesnt have the memories of the original timeline ladybug (the one that was killed by cat blancs cataclysm), as that was a different person entirely.
@@proclarushtaonasat nooru said, 'Forget everything.' Which means one wouldn't be able to remember anything which is fine for those hijacked but those who willingly got Akuma still remember what happened and the qwamii lumped them in as well.
Things i didnt like: Adrien barely being in this movie, Alix has to stay away from her friends even longer and considering S6 is in a new school year, she has been there for at least 3 months, Lila being the villain for one day and immediately winning when it took Gabriel multiple tries, Nathalie knowing who LB and Marinette not evn tellling CN who Gabriel truly was.
Things i liked: More Alix and even older Bunnix, though it sets the precendent that the heroes are doing this until they are in their 60's.
Yeah the forgetting everything was so strange I was like "did I watch the show the writers wrote!?"
Cause I thought it was where they don't remember cause they're not theirselves when they're evil 😾
Honestly, I thought it made sense why Lila / Cherise would be forgetful, and when I saw specifically of what she exactly wanted to do. Especially when she’s deciding her next objective. She is jumbling between different super villain powers through her miraculous. She jumping through time, definitely spying on people like Marinette, and finding ways to understand peoples emotions how to control their feelings to her. If anything, it’s just making her split personality more real and extra scary knowing what she’s capable without a miraculous.
And by the way, Marinette's nightmare came true, *technically*. Just not in the full form, I guess.
She will forget everything because scriptwriter wants so.
To me, it seems like akumatized villains only remember part of the things, might be everything or nothing. And here, the writers just did what they did.
@@reassigned0 the writers are excellent at plot inconsistency
4:55 my thoughts exactly on Steven universe.
0:54 the only time in the actual series where it seems like akumatized villains forget is in ikari gozen, so it was with a character with reason to lie
I’d always assumed Chloé forgot Miracle Queen cause she had no reason to keep the heroes identities a secret
I don't understand why didn't Marinette just didnt see who took the butterfly miraculous like helloooo? Did lila just created a loop with her Akuma?
Is the villain even Lila? Wasn't she seen caught off guard or something? I thought someone took the miraculous from her. And the disguises are a way to gaslight the audience into thinking it is still her. Also if it was Lila wouldn't they have recognized her since only Miraculous transformations hide the identity and Akumatized transformations do not.
miraculous have quantum masking and akumas do not. however if the akumatization completely changes your appearance, there is no way to tell. and the timetravel and ghost transformations completely hide her features. she also doesnt talk, which prevents them from recognizing her voice.
Wait where do you watch it I looked on Netflix and Disney plus but I can’t find it
Try Bilibili
Finally a special that bring more to the plot than just side characters that show only in the final and really contribute to the story of series, being a link between seasons. I really like they show Lila as clever intelligent character, who first thing was made herself a time travel akuma, something what Gabriel never done in the Ladybug. Her change in apperance is understand, knowing that she's on the run now. Fight scenes were really good, talk with Kagami and Nathalie too.
But how I really want to made rant on this one too... to be honest I can accept that it's just a young kid show, something I should treat as something with sense of My Littlle Pony or propably even less, and that the contuinity and what characters learn or how their story goes dosen't matter, and logic there is pointless. Warn there because are spoilers.
First off, she let Kagami just go with her mother, knowing she's ally of the terrorist? Yea I know S5 finale, but it's still look like that only villain who pay somehow was Chloe. Not even talk with her, not threat "do something similar and you will be ended"? Then next go, akuma steal her Miracolous... does really she not do any preparations like, just ask Kwamis to be on guard? Basically Plagg could stop this from the beggining but whatever, let's go.
Gabriel do his wish and I see Gimmie see nothing wrong with akumatised Lila being near, because why Kwami of reality should care about akuma who get sudden nearby. And then Marinette find a time to speak with Nathalie and destroy all things relate to him, but not time to search there for damn Butterfly Miracolous? Not back to civil and ask Tikki, Plagg or maybe other Kwamis to help search for Butterfly? She basically let Lila steal it (Ofc other question is how Lila get Butterfly. Only option is she somehow get by miracle when Wish was made, becasuse I can't see how she get down there to get Miracolous).
Bunnyx burrow? Can't they look if someone get near or inside mansion, to just look who's Hawky? I knew it will end quick Lila reign, but damn, for some reason good guys don't do reasonable things. Or when Mari finally get notebook, can't they search in burrow whose one is this? And really, if the akuma object not need to be on person, just like what Nathalie show, then why Gabe as Hawky not use this more often? Why not Nathalie suggest something similar to him, really teenage Villain Sue do all this only on herself? Why Mari bring back her notebook, not read it first and then try to learn whos hawky, what she know and if she can't do any of that against her?
Still anyway propably best special, because it was really only one that contribute anything to the story. Still I think it would be better with Lila just as before, side villain, with propably a Tomoe somehow obtain Butterfly (with her technology in his lair have much more sense), with Lila at her side as accompliance who ofc want to backstab her. After S3 they made her fly off for nearly one and half season, and then sudden, thx to plot powers, they made her a "real threat". IDK if I would not prefer to watch than usual hawky of the week just watch LB and CN fight those aliens, evil queens and whatever Bunnyx show in Time Tagger
well, bunnyx once basically admited, she knew who hawkmoth was, but couldnt tell ladybug, as it would change the timeline, as bunnyx only knew hawkmoths identity, because she knew, that ladybug defeated monarch in season 5. Thats also why they couldnt use timetravel to prevent cerise from getting the butterfly miraculous, as the timetagger fight sent adult bunnyx back in time, which caused the camoflaged rabbit-miraculous to become the family heirloom in her own backstory. so preventing cerise from getting the butterfly, would erase bunnyx from existence.
My biggest problem with the special and the finally is why didn't u immediately return the chat miraculous like u know how dangerous it is to have both the miraculous under the same roof not to mention after finding out everything plagg would have wanted to be with Adrian to comfort him so that's my biggest beef with it it's apparently so dangerous for either one to know each other's Identities but it's ok for her to have both the miraculouses like huh that would have been a simple solution the whole special would have happened except chat noir would have been there too Marinette grabes her miraculous from the past and bunnix grabes chat noir everything is explained and he helps take her down
@@reviewsandtheories4941 oh yea, how I not see this... Yea Marinette have with her cat ring was asking for problem.
Well the show handle Adrien as side character so it's not suprise for me that he was basically not in this special.
Anyway why call it "London" when London here was only for some scenes, when they grab Adi and Kagami. It's not that this city was relevant to the plot anyway. Better would be call "race of time" or "rise of new Hawkmoth".
@@Shimospeher exactly like she may have had the ladybug miraculous but she couldn't do anything with it until she gets chats miraculous and it's not he's revealed his identity to anyone willingly the only people who knew is Luka and bunnix Luka is very careful and vague about it not only hinting Adrian and bunnix stays in her burrow so even with time powers she wouldn't have figured out char noir basically he was the one standing between her wish like they could have made this special about him easily but of course they won't do that
Whats the problem with drama
I think I have an explanation for the Memory Loss. I think the person we see isn't actually Lila but The Supreme who is the one who attacked her at the end of season 5. I think she fled here after being chased away by Betterfly after Ladybug and Chat Noir Revolted against her. I think she swapped with Lila so that the hero's from HER world wouldn't come after her. I think she know's about the powers of the Miraculous but doesn't have experience using it so she doesn't know that if you reject the Akuma you'll remeber everything.
OR it could be that you only remember everything when its someone ELSE that akumatize's you and you reject their Akuma. Remember with Star Train she didn't remember anything either and she wasn't under the Butterfly's Miraculous Wielders control.
How would she not? The Supreme literally changed kwamis to make them unable to make a wish and should definitely have ample knowledge of how the Miraculouses work. As for your latter point, that doesn’t make sense as we see Gabriel akumatise himself multiple times and remember everything (like that one time for the S5 finale and for Dearest Family) so yeah
@@dabest8777 Its just a theory. She could of not used them to extent that Gabriel had. Like how Marinette used the miraculous only using the base powers when she fused kwami's. Its been established that the limits of the miraculous are those set by the user. She might have not used the miraculous before or only used it a few times.
I don't think the Supreme changed the Kwami's but those things in their mouths prevent the wish from being granted and left that message to anyone that tries.
Another thing to note is that she wore the Miraculous Upside-down as opposed to how Lila wore it right side up. I think that might be the writers trying to show that they are different people.
I may be wrong and the memory is retconned. But I Stand Firm that the new Villian is The Supreme!!!
@@lockskelington314 using a miraculous a lot is irrelevant, considering how competent the new villain is with the new miraculous and how Marinette picked up the butterfly very easily in the reverse special. My point is that you would think someone as powerful as the supreme with access to the same information Lila has would know a lot about the miraculous via the Grimoire or something else
@@dabest8777 I think that the Supreme is starting again from scratch with a miraculous that she lost in her own world. She could not be used to doing her own Dirty work and with a miraculous that she has a limited understanding thinking that their are limitations put in place on the miraculous based on either a false narrative or her own experience with BetterFly. Just think of how long it took for someone to reject being Akumatized or even out rightly turning back mid Villain tantrum. I don't think she would have experienced that in her world given that BetterFly is a Hero and the Villians wouldn't try and save the Civilians turned Hero's via talking them out of thus not giving the idea that one can snap out of being Akumatized by themselves. The Supreme also has her own nasty magic so its quite possible she used her own method of De-akumatizing herself that doesn't allow one to remember just like how Shadybug and Claw Noir had their limiters removed and it was slowly killing them in exchange for unlimited uses of their powers.
@@lockskelington314 but my argument was that the supreme should have a wealth of knowledge on the Miraculouses, she would and in fact should have access to the Grimoire either from her own world and even if she doesn’t, she must at least have access to it in this world considering Lila’s whole hoaxer thing. Not to mention the fact that the Supreme managed to, on their first try, create 2 near perfect akumatised villains with exact power sets when experienced users such as Gabe couldn’t make villains even close to that before. Not to mention the fact that if the Supreme truly did transport to this universe, then how would they have done so without a miraculous power? I’m saying this because is she had access to a miraculous, whether it be the Peacock, Rooster or any others which allow for multiverse travel, then why didn’t she use it in this special? The Peacock would’ve been incredibly useful due to the fact that it would completely eliminate the whole notebook thing regardless of the fact that it’s a retcon. The Rooster is already its own broken beast. The whole idea of the supreme being the person we see in the special is already flawed on its own considering the only methods we’ve seen thus far to universe jump have been via Miraculouses which we see none of except the Bunny, Ladybug and Butterfly (well, there is the cat but not really important to this special)
I don’t even watch Miracluous, but your community posts managed to get me hyped for this video.