How To Beat The MOST HATED strats in The Finals
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2023
- How To Beat The MOST HATED strats in The Finals
ottr explains how to beat the most annoying strategies in the new game the finals, including flamethrowers, knife or melee wielders, sledgehammers, invisible enemies or even heavy classes or medium beams - giving a lot of credit to counterplays
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I didn't clarify on this, but the Vanishing Bomb has the same visual effect when moving around as the Cloaking Device - you can be spotted as you run around if the enemy pays attention.
Game took too long to come out from the betas. The closed betas also gives those players a huge advantage.
For those two reasons alone, I won’t even bother watching anymore content or waste time trying it. It’s a shame, looked like it could be good.
@@smokeking-pc6oj lol your loss
@smokeking-pc6oj so playtime of other players it what determines wether you try a game or not? Sounds fucking stupid
@@thedofflin lol 😂 the game will be dead in a couple of weeks. Watch clown 🤡
I also noticed that throwing a glitch grenade on a turret will disable the turret and also makes the turret easier to destroy :)
Melee users won’t dive straight into a team of three
Oh yes they will
riot shmeild go kathunck
sledge hammer just makes you feel invincible lol
*Me who dives into H-H-M, M-M-H, M-M-M comp and kills their M by yeeting him out of existence with my cool knife. Man im raking 15 kills ave per game in rank, it feels good man.
15 is low for ranked.. And in diamond you never see lights because everyone is running RPGs and throwables with C4 on it@@Neraux.
light build with a sword and grapple hook is so fun for me.
I also just realised the smoke canisters actually look like fire extinguishers (the shape of them) so it’s kinda intuitive that they would put out the fire… that’s actually really smart design.
if you read the side of them there powder canisters not smoke xD
the fire extinguishers...put out... fire? Holt shit man that's genius, baffled as to how they dreamt that one up
@@glennwebb301 okay but the smoke grenades which do a similar thing also work
yeah its absolutely wild that they would make fire extinguishers put out fire. they must be geniuses
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this is the first game in a long time that i get frusrated at but not in an angry way. it's just really fun. i dont care if i win or lose, i am having a blast just running around killing people lol
A good tip for turrets is to just throw a goo grenade in front of it to break the line of sight
Land mines can break it almost instantly, and instantly go off if they hit the turret
@@stabbythesnowman yeah if u can get close enough to place the mine maybe but it’s easy to just throw some goo in front of it. I guess you could attach the mine to an explosive barrel and throw it at the turret, I can see that working
@@dannybangz in my experience i can throw the mines far enough
#googang
The goo gun on heavy can pretty much disable them with a single shot too, as it won’t even fire without a target to track.
A tip for all lights that do not use the taser (because fuck you if you do): if you are fighting a heavy up close, run up against them and start circling. Because of the height difference, the heavy has to look down to shoot and can't see anything else, plus they lose track of you since you get out of their view by moving like 1 meter.
As a heavy main I can confirm this is a solid strat, this ruins my aim all the time if I'm using the shotty (though I do not recommend trying this against a sledgehammer, lmfao)
As a light, lmao. I just like to waste my opponents time by distracting them.
i do this, i mainly use a sword. works amazing on heavys with shield
I just love invis+stun gun+db shotty
Seriously, don’t use taser. It’s not cool man.
Thanks for this. A lot of people complaining about the game just don't know how to play or strategize and blame the devs for an "unbalanced" game... people just gotta use different strategies and think outside the box, thats what the game is all about. Get better!
I'm finding it really fun and those who are stacking and having a heal of are just taking full advantage lol
lmao you such a casu
@@monroe6848 use full words please, we're not making call outs in call of duty
@@monroe6848sounds more like a good ranked player lol
It’s hard to counter affective strategies if your a solo player as ransoms will always just do whatever they want
better than apex and cod
A really good tip I dont see often to counter defib is throwing fire/gas on enemy bodies. Cant tell you the amount of players i have killed that run into the open for defib just to die to gas+bullets.
Or mines
Love how this is just strat 101 so many ppl come in the finals thinking it just another cod
1:15 You can also throw gas at the player being healed, Gas does enough damage to negate healing but not enough to overpower it. Thus allowing you to get the same normal time to kill on a healed player.
3:00 The medium class can see the enemies with their recon ability even when they are invisible and from across the map given that it is not foggy or there is not gas or smoke between you and the enemy. It is a super underrated ability that is just wall hacks in a clever package.
Thats what i use i just feel the cooldown and whe you activate it drains too much faster. After you use it once it will take too long before you can use it again. Not like the camouflage that you can always be activating and deactivating from second to second
I run Recon and ambush teams. I use it in burst, not fully hold it down. It's like cloaking, you can press it and press it again to stop it. I like to see where people are or heading to before making an approach.
Recon ran only see invis through walls
@@teknyon yup, they should be able to spot everyone behind walls or on sight. Now that it got nerfed again would be sick to just spot everyone in these 2 seconds. Like short bursts, that would actually make more sense for the fast pace the game has. Just little taps on recon, not staying wallhacking for 5/6 seconds. Instead short bursts, but these short bursts should definitly spot and highlight everyone even if on sight
So glad you made the switch to this game around the time I did. Now your tips can help me here
Also gas grenade strat. Some team spam gas grenade or gas mine at the cash out. You can instantly disperse gas using fire
Wait I can use a flamethrower to clear gas ?
@@bh9882 flamethrower,fire nade, fire barrel. it all works
@@bh9882 yeah
Honestly, the only ability i really hate is the stun gun. I've seen more than enough duos or trios all running the damn thing just to be cancerous lol.
2 or three lights seems so bad though in a ranked context. Way too easy to wipe a team like that.
@@JakeEatNow I'm sure it's not in ranked, but in casual it's just the most irritating thing to run into.
@@JakeEatNowif you have a team of lights it's honestly nasty. You just sit back and play slow getting picks and let everybody fight for the objective then when teams are low you guys clean up and capture the obj it's a pretty decent strat as long as everyone fights each other.
It was so much worse in the beta lol
@@Blueissuperiorfacts, I don’t even think the stun gun is that bad anymore. It barely slows down your sensitivity at all unless you ads
Just heard abt this game yesterday and you've got a GREAT vid.
Much detail very wow 👌🏽 👏🏽
An actually good video. Thanks for the tips, mate. Liked!
Great tip against rocket launchers: I noticed that when using the rocket launcher it does double the damage to yourself than other players to u can counter the rocket launcher by just standing directly next to them, if they shoot you they will deal up to 360 damage to themselves (enough to 1 shot themselves) depending how close you are
As a light class who likes to run the knife and get as up in a heaviest face as I can, this is definitely not true. They will absolutely suicide themselves with the rocket launcher to kill you
@@thewriter344 and also most of the time they somehow dont end up killing themselves while you die
@@emiljankus3516this is an outright lie. The RPG 100% does more damage to the player than the opponent
@@NoCloutJoey but i had multiple situations where i was in the face of a heavy and he blasted me with his rpg, while he survived.
Maybe it was due to lag and the game thinking I was further away from the heavy than I was on my screen but I had that happen miltiple times
@@NoCloutJoeyI’m a heavy main - I shoot my feet and kill any light near me
It doesn’t kill me, it kills them
Too big tips I would give to newer players would be to slow down. You have a lot more time than you think you do. The objectives don't go by that fast. You have time to think. And communication with your team is key. Just slow down and plan your tax out more rather than just diving in and getting squished between the other teams.
everyone is a newer player the gamed brand new😂 id say anyone below 500 hours is fairly new to the game
@@Bldzera the game has had a few beats ☠️ and below 500hrs is not new you realize 500 hrs is almost 21 straight days in a video game. You can pick up a game and how it works in like 5 days
communicate with who i've had 1 game where people actually uses mics and they were German
agree, almost nobody is on voice chat, and if they are they rarely use mics, plus the game doesn't have text chat which is ridiculous
Another big tip… if one teammate dies, be aware of your other standing teammate & get ready to BACK OUT to avoid a wipe out + always pick up revive statues & move to a safe location.
I find it extremely easy to spot invisible players, not only due to distortion but also the sounds they make..
not to mention most invis players think they vanish altogether and get all cozy near you.. but last time I checked my footsteps don't duplicate and glass panes don't randomly shatter...
they do vanish if they slow down/stop moving, most people dont know that though or dont care because you whiff most your shots anyway
@@fall2zero damn okay
nah i mean becoming fully invis when stopped is a given among many games but its highly unlikely anyone would in this game.
if anything, someone invis is more likely to rely on it making you less likely to notice during the heat of a fight maybe, I wouldn't know, last time I played light [properly] was in CB1
Standing still they vanish 100%, the stuff you mentioned was due to them moving lol.
@@drjonesey5 someone despises reading replies
I'm sure the player you encounter is noob.
who the hell shatter the window and move on cloaking?
Amazing video and info. Thanks bro
You can place glitch trap on explosion tank straight throw to your enemy and shield drone~
Explosive trap on gas/pryo tank extra damage~
i like it. first tip already helped me
Had a great game yesterday where nobody knew about shooting down the buildings that are suspended in the air. After knocking out all the ziplines it was a clean sweep 😂 then the next vault we took it down the second enemy’s tried to take it for an easy win
great video thanks for the effort
This game is AMAZING. Thanks for these tips you earned a new Sub
something I didn't hear you mention is that invis from the light class has the most counters in the game! You have the lights motion detector, glitch grenade, and thermal vision. The mediums recon senses and sonar grenades. You also have the heavy with the highest ammo count and flamethrowers able to spray and pray the location. Finally all classes have access to the fire and gas. Glitch mines are underrated for this purpose imo, they also work pretty decent for shield spam on point.
I really wish the climbing(ledges+windows), grappling, zip lining, etc was just a bit more accurately tuned… It’s good, but I still seem to miss a lot or be unable to reach certain spots
You haven't played bf 2042 mackay i guess
so many amazing little unique details in this game that actually require you to think fast to win LOVE THIS GAME
I use the flamethrower nearly exclusively and it is quite exploitable. I have to go triple cover (Q shield, barricades, and shield bubble) to make it work to force close encounters.
U sound like a fun person🤡
If u have bad aim just say so kid
3:22 yep if you just get up on top of it you don't need to struggle to get on it anymore, thanks for the advice.
Though seriously, it's not as easy as just break them, they're really difficult to break if you're anything but a Heavy with a RPG, as the barrels and such seem to struggle to break them
goo gun is OP against melee. just 1 goop thing is enough to freeze them in place
I played against a bunch of heavies all running goo gun and it was unbelievably annoying. Was getting stuck in place constantly lol
I'm glad others are gettin that red odometer of lag, and I'm not the only one.
I used to get it all the time in open beta but I have been pretty lucky since release
Good video I love the finals
hey ottr, I used to watch all your apex videos and im happy to see people finding the finals. I played the whole beta and I found you can go invisible while holding canisters somehow, did anyone know this?
6:30 you forgot to mention, the goo gun completely counters the turret, one goo and it can no longer shoot. Been running that lately, my new main ability.
glitch mines and grenades is a good tip against 3 med stack!! thanks for the tip!
The glitch grenade can disable sonar and motion detectors. Something that was not mentioned when you said that sonar had no counter
otter the goat
thanks otter.
For me personally as a light main, saving my stun gun has been something that has helped me when going against a heavy with an rpg. Stun gun is incredibly useful to drown one player from using utility if you have all glitch grenades on cd.
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Turrets are easily countered by goo. Also, i recall seeing smoke block turret line of sight, but im not sure if im misremembering things.
This game is awesome. I really hope it blows up
Actually showed me a lot of potential from the glitch grenade, mvp
My most hated strat is when lights are on my team, drop 12 kills then quit before the match ends
Defibrillator needs to not make the rezzed person invulnerable for a short period of time... Its way too easy to slide in and defib a teammate right in front of a gunfight and heal tank them.
I wish more classes had reliable Glitch grenades. The mine is hard to use purposefully.
Hanging cradles, it doesnt matter what 2 supports you take out. Any 2 will bring it down. Same with any building. Destroy any 2 walls at ground level will bring the building down. Good tactic is facing a triple medium team who likely have mines/ turrets on cashout. The mangled building will make it much harder for them to group and healscum each other.
They need to nerf 2 things ASAP the Invisibility spam (cool down is ridiculous) and the heavy’s mobility with the RPG he needs a slow down when it’s equipped
Nah,invis is balanced.
It's loud ,you can easily see cloak user if he's close to you and it decloaks when you get hit .
@@BioMachineEnjoyer true but its more like a passive ability that's almost always available than something you have to think about and use tactically
I don't get why so the cloak and dash are so common. The mobility and speed from the grapple is too good to give up.
@@BioMachineEnjoyer the cooldown not the ability
@@RGI18 nah ,you're crazy.If you make cooldown longer for invis,there would be literally no reason to use it.
The ability to cook nades would be nice..
Meh leave it the way it is I say
@@brycejackson9805 hence the “would be nice” I never said should be changed.
@@Infinitynova those are fairly interchangeable in this context. If you say it would be nice to have this that can also be viewed as you saying I would like the game to have this / I think the game should have this.
@@brycejackson9805 well my point persists. For example I would like throwing knives to oneshot everyone I throw at. I don’t think it should be added.
@@Infinitynova that's just fuckin stupid
how do you beat double medium heavy with 1 turret 1 heal 2 APS turret mesh shield gas mines and glitch traps
Be better ☠️ 😂 nah honestly it would depend on the map but if they are above you set up traps underneath them and drop them into a kill zone. Glitch grenades, pyros, land mines, and c4 would probably be your friend. And the turents do decent damage but they are fairly easy to shoot / RPG
Hammer
You didn’t mention that you can slide backwards after a jump, which can get you some good distance from a heavy or sword.
"Melee users won't dive a team of 3"... Allow me to introduce myself XD
as a fellow monster energy charged creature, allow me to introduce myself as well (dash+sword)
So what you’re telling me is that I have to play every class at 1 time and somehow have every grenade equipped at once while also using my godly sixth sense to shoot cloaked enemies and make sure melee players never get close
You have a team for a reason but if the randoms are ignorant. Just try to find a good random player in the cycle of games, send a friend request, and form a solid team. Use your social skills to win
@@jaartisjones5713 if I want to put that much effort into a video game I’ll go play a real game like cs
get good
Got it unlock the glitch grenade, those shield strats have been tough getting around.
As a heavy flamethrower user I have to say that light/stun gun/ glitch grenade is my kriptonite as long as they stay out of my flamer range. Besides that I’m pretty impervious in 1 on 1 duels. Usually it takes 2 on 1 to kill me.
Biggest problem with the game rn for me is solo que. I can play each class fairly well. Light being best, med being alright, and heavy being just cake walk, but I CANNOT for the life of me, watch my teammate elbow the dude taking our point to only get killed one more time.
Yoooo ottr on the finals !
Stun gun is a nice answer to RPG, too
Glitch grenades solve all my problems 😂
if your turrent is low health pick it up and drop and done again boom full health
Today I learned turrets have directions. Explains why they felt so useless
You can disable sonar grenades by shooting the grenade itself. Just need line of sight.
Game is very fun at the beginning, but after around 20-40 matches u will start to encounter suddenly top 500 cod players not missing a single shot and u will start to feel like ur gun is shooting rubber bullets
And the countless times u will meet a team of lights with invisibility and taser is insane there really is no counter for it at all when they taze your whole team.
When u get your stats up suddenly all matches goes like this, u run open vault get cash insert it into cashout and u still haven’t seen a single player and u start to wonder where everyone is, thinking oh a free win, NOPE after there is around 30 seconds on the clock both teams come running inn and of course both the team focus the team that has the point then u get team wiped and cant spawn in time for the timer to run out its so stupid that people just sit camp and wait until last seconds to just come inn and steal it, is so hard to defend to cause of the unbalance in this game with them spam throwing grenades and rpgs and granade launcher, and the lights with the cloak and tazer tactics
In my personal experience with this, if you are having trouble with too many invis taser lights and such then running a medium build with sonar grenades or recon sense is a huge help. I don't have too much trouble tracking invis lights on a healbeam medium but I can see how it causes frustration
Figured out the gas thing day 1 always ran a pyro and smoke and thermal
correct me if I'm wrong, but medium wall hack specialization doesn't show invisible lights. From my testing (our lobby glitched and put us on separate teams for some reason) we only saw that the sonar grenade was able to spot him while cloaked and he was able to run past me multiple times without the wall hack picking him up. Even if it picked up stealthed lights, I wouldn't personally run the wall hack due to you losing the heal beam or turret (mostly heal beam) because you can always switch off the grenade if you see that no one in the lobby is playing cloak.
Light's kit thrives if they find you playing alone, so just don't play alone. You might get idiots who will still go after you regardless, but you can get traded and rezzed most of the time because 90% of them are selfish 12 year olds who are running double barrel because they can't kill any other way.
As a flamethrower main myself, it’s way better in closed environments and kinda bad everywhere else, but if you are strategic, you can always be in a closed area
Trophy system is an amazing counter to RPGs - you know that 9/10 times a heavy is going to shoot you with one, so just put it down when you see them.
Holy crap dude the heavy class is sooo annoying to play against. They have like 400 hp, rpgs, flamethrower, and dome shields
Haha
I think they’ll get nerfed a bit in the next patch.
The shield shouldn’t have 1200 HP and allow shooting through the other side. If it’s gonna have that kind of health, it shouldn’t allow gunfire through either side.
Bruh flamethrower got nerfed so hard, its not a issue at all whatsoever anymore
Dome shield has pretty low health. Also they have 350 health still a lot but you also can't really miss shots on a heavy so it balances out.
@@Throwawayjim119 devs are heavy players, there's a reason heavies have only received slight small nerfs (and still got some buffs) since beta
To counter an RPG shot you can have your medium pop down a APS turret which will shoot it down
To counter people who jump while you're shooting at them you can move your mouse up and/or down 👍
Does anyone know if the APM turret on Medium takes care of RPGS? been spending my currency elsewhere and haven't been able to test.
a really good thing to do to deal with the sonar is just staying crouched and not move
I love lights that cloak but never actually stop moving lol
Solo is pain in the ass when you carry the objective on your own especially if you r the only M or H between two L
Yeah too many players trying to be "sneaky assassins" completely ditching the objective play. Whenever I see 2 lights in my team it's 50% of a chance they'll just run around for kills only.
I run with the mini shot gun makes getting clips for my channel more fun
How can you do big damage to a house or building with the mid built?
A way to balance the sword is to make it deal less damage but get better when You get a kill
Can you shoot the hooks on the platform as well?
Light’s counterplay for rpg is the stun gun. It works like a glitch to stop all ability usage
Smoke grenades and cannisters can also take out the gas. So there are 2 counters to it.
was not aware of the smoke thank you
Wait so you mean smoke can counter gas too?
@yourstrulli9089 smoke doesn't beat gas. Gas beats smoke by turning the smoke into more gas. It's a rock paper scissors
All i got from this is "Use heavy because otherwise you lose" which is a fucking balancing nightmare.
Thats a you problem
@@hangedman3834 if the community is full of people like you then I'll just stick to CoD
@@MyOnlyNevermore no its honestly like a you problem. Every class has its own strenghts and im sure more dynamic teams and strats will emerge soon enough. If you think its all just use heavy or lose, it is indeed a you problem. Ive run a team with 2 lights and a medium and vice versa and we have been doing just fine against teams with heavies. So i dont know what you are getting at here
@@hangedman3834 i get what you mean but Heavy is objectively the best class with the only counter being tossing all the explosives at him
@@MyOnlyNevermore i think the skill matters for heavy a bit aswell. He is hard to kill but if the player controlling him is not very good its not too hard. I think the most op thing about heavy is the one shot rpg though..no skill needed there and it can be such a decisive weapon
me being a flamethrower heavy main: IM JUST ITCHING TO DO IT AGAIN
How do you c4 a floating structure if there’s a team already holding it? Or do you mean c4 it before they set up?
Awesome video and is going to be an immediate help.
Yet you leaked the secret on my jump pad under the cash out strat 😭🤣
Not gonna lie one of the best music I head❤
Since the game is now turret simulator goo grenades is the best way to counter them atm
vs a flamethrower if you're light or medium literally just just and W key away. The heavy can do absolutely nothing to catch you if you run in a straight line, and will need to pull out the rpg instead
Crazy
The data reshaper also os very very useful
It’s kind of baffling how many people can’t think of things like shooting the jump pad
1:47 also the revived player has a grace period, while they are glowing blue they dont take any damage
Should honestly be asking, When’re they adding a gas mask gadget?
Hey guys, don't worry about using your util to help your team offensively. Now you have to hold onto it and be ready to fire the 8 gas mines on the cashout, so you can instantly smoke it after!
Honestly though if that's this company's big idea for counterplay, they need to make 1 gas mine that recharges for more a thing, and make it heavy's only.
I find it crazy that heavy has a ton of health a high damage gun AND ! an RPG plus all the other little things that make it over all just annoying to deal with
One fun way to deal with defib teams is by placing mines on death figurines
Best way to counter sledgehammer: sprint backwards. Yes, you can do that
Nerfing the RPG damage was fine, 180 to one shot a light def a bit much, but making self damage up to 250 was insane
The best way to counter RPG for a light is, evasive dodge. RPG's cd is very long once u dodge it.
I like how you couldn’t give a counter for stun gun because there isn’t one. The invis and stun combo is the only thing in this game I hate and pisses me off it takes 0 skill
breach charges or c4 on the cashout
C4 on the red canister adn then Send It. Will one shot even heavies