It should be a gamemode. And every time you die it randomizes again, unless your revived then you should keep it. I think that would be a fun arcade type gamemode like overwatch has
Actually, dagger and dash is an exceptionally good combo. You can perform a tech called Akiba step. It allows you to dash through someone and strike from the front, yet the game will consider it a backstab due to how knife is coded. Where it checks player location when the attack connects to confirm whether or not it's a backstab. It's a lot better then stealth once mastered since stealth backstab is highly inconsistent.
Grenade launcher just forces you to attack from different angles and places, but you really need C4 to make it work, you need to make your own path to shoot into on your own terms. It can be very fun with the right load out/team.
Medium GL with mines is a blast. If you get a read on people chasing you around a corner you can throw a mine and a GL shot and one-shot a Light, or leave Medium one-shot. Then gas mines to protect the point and you can use them as gas nades because you can blow them up with one shot.
first loadout is actually pretty good im using it (if you're face to face to enemy you can right click then dash immediately to go behind the enemy then one shot its works somehow)
@@SpecterNeverSpectator oh its horrible, and thats why I run it most of the time. I'm the masochist who one tricks horrible weapons for the meme, like in Apex I hit level 100 with the p2020 (worst gun in the game) for the funny.
Pyro nade detonates on contact and burns through objects and players behind cover. I've used it to defend the floor below the objective and throw it on the ceiling when someone tries to cap. Its not great but at least it has some uses
If you want a pretty bad but really fun lode out try Medium with healing, the riot shield, the zip line, the jump pad and the defibrillator. It’s a hell of a time. And you don’t want to run healing you can run it just fine with turret as well :) love the content and keep it up!!!!
when you pointed out the grenade launcher Nades exploding after the initial first bounce. Somehow seems like they took a marginal amount of inspiration from Overwatch with a lot of the tech in the game.
Ottr? I haven’t watched you in a while, when you did your educational Apex videos! I love this game so it’s good to see you playing it and having fun with it too… top 3 game!
Whoever edited this went crazy, loved the quality, just went a little too hard with the subtitle pops and second time I see a ss of the timeline mid vid 😂 much love keep it up tho
Personally I think the grenade launchers should be more destructive to buildings makeing them serve a better purpose. Damage is already low and they can be completely negated by the aps. But having the ability to open a hole is allways nice and better chances they are clustered together in a room.
Hell no, Sledgehammer have no purpose if GL can do more destruction Maybe increase explosives range much better buff or bigger bullet size so easier to hit directly on enemy
Love more of these gameplay type videos - also as far as I’ve seen in my testing, the dash makes your hit box a lot smaller then normal. That’s probably why you felt like the dash had “aim assist” on it
I feel like the grenade launcher should have a secondary fire making impact Grenade but it's slightly reduced damage. Replace the aiming because no one aims with it
Dash dagger is incredibly strong if not the best, but you have to know how to use it. Otherwise its not viable. The Akiba step is the best thing to learn using dash dagger.
legit the first loadout is my light build.....guess thats why im suffering. Also a fun build is: Medium, Grenade launcher, jump pad, exp mines, gas mines, recon senses. Basically junkrat from overwatch. I know its not realy bad but its fun.
Jokes of them, knife & dash is my current loadout lol. Start a dash and mid wake start back stab right click to back stab other players, very tricky but so much fun
Same here. It's pretty challenging and especially tricky to pull off under fire, but I've been practicing in the range, and it works. It's essentially the same mechanics as with the sabre but with the backstab, and you push through people's backs. Otherwise, you dash to close the gap and slice away. Again, it's pretty challenging but very rewarding once the practice pays off and you see it in action.
I’ve been playing heavy since open beta and I would challenge you to try the sledgehammer with mesh shield, frag, explosive mine, and flash. It’s a real struggle without range, sustainable cover, and any mobility utility but I think you can do it
Watching the launcher games. I think I saw some cases of your grenades bouncing off the enemies. If they made it so that they actually detonated on contact with an enemy, probably be a lot better and harder to rush down
I just figured out the worst loudout for medium. Its recon senses, riot shield, glitch mine, tracking dart, and recon grenade. Let me know what you think
U should do a loadout that consists of a medium build with a guardian turret, riot shield, aps turret (I think that is what it is called), sonar nade, stun gun. This should do u fine @ottr
Question, what would you consider good with the dagger? I want to get good with the dagger and would like all different ideas for it. Current I use dash, stun, glitch, and invis bomb with it.
Try replacing the glitch with goo. I just get more utility from it and it has many uses. Especially with melee since you can cut lines of sight to get closer
To me the dagger is the worse weapon in the whole game. In a game where people are on alert 24/7 using the dagger has the sole purpose of being behind the enemy. You'll see clips out there with the dagger going nuts but how long does it take for you to get those kills? Even with invis it's still hard to get a backstab and if you miss the charge attack the basic attack does just 50 damage which is pretty awful compared to the sword or really any other weapon the Light has. The dagger needs to do at least 60-65 damage in the light atttack and a faster charge on the backstab, to me that's the only way it can be concidered a good option.
"its so bad" my brother in christ your triple dashing directly into another player. perhaps save dashes for a fight and play cooldowns? like tracer? loadout aint bad just because your not inventive enough to make it work.
Honestly, I have to give some props to the devs because almost nothing in this game feels useless. Nearly everything has its place and serves a purpose. How generally useful everything is might not be the greatest, but there is a way to leverage just about everything, though some really need synergy with your team and the right enemy loadouts.
Dude you lost literally all credibility when you said dash and dagger is a terrible combo. Like what? I get killed by people with that combo all the time. Dash with literally any melee is super valuable. What kind of thinking is that? Baffling
Imagine if the devs behind this game actually put in a random loadout option and it has that slot machine look. That would be AWESOME
bro just got a dope idea for a future update
It should be a gamemode. And every time you die it randomizes again, unless your revived then you should keep it.
I think that would be a fun arcade type gamemode like overwatch has
That would be so fun. Imagine the potential chaos.
Should be a gamemode
DUDE WGAT
Actually, dagger and dash is an exceptionally good combo. You can perform a tech called Akiba step. It allows you to dash through someone and strike from the front, yet the game will consider it a backstab due to how knife is coded. Where it checks player location when the attack connects to confirm whether or not it's a backstab.
It's a lot better then stealth once mastered since stealth backstab is highly inconsistent.
Glad to see the akiba step mentioned
🤓🤓
Grenade launcher just forces you to attack from different angles and places, but you really need C4 to make it work, you need to make your own path to shoot into on your own terms.
It can be very fun with the right load out/team.
but it has a bug, right? when shooting close it seems that the grenade takes 1 second to bounce off the ground
It's OK on powershift when you got 3 guys on the payload.
Medium GL with mines is a blast. If you get a read on people chasing you around a corner you can throw a mine and a GL shot and one-shot a Light, or leave Medium one-shot. Then gas mines to protect the point and you can use them as gas nades because you can blow them up with one shot.
first loadout is actually pretty good im using it (if you're face to face to enemy you can right click then dash immediately to go behind the enemy then one shot its works somehow)
Dagger mains rise up 🗡
we up 💪💪💪
We found the 2 dagger players, keep it up guys 💪
Uk simulator
I tried and really wanted to be a dagger main, but man does it suck, just cant get the hitbox for a backstab at all
@@SpecterNeverSpectator oh its horrible, and thats why I run it most of the time. I'm the masochist who one tricks horrible weapons for the meme, like in Apex I hit level 100 with the p2020 (worst gun in the game) for the funny.
The bounce on the grenade launcher is absolutely horrible 😂
If you learn how to use it then not
@@lukasmarek3424if u watched the video u would know that’s not true
@@DragneelXxottr did NOT learn how to use it in the video
Heal beam, riot shield, defibs, glitch mine, flashbang.
In solo bank it.
I actually really enjoy the grenade launcher on medium 😅 it’s my most used weapon and I’ve even tried almost everything else
you play the dagger wrong, the loadout you got is actually really good for the dagger.
That knife class is literally my class 😂
Dagger and dash is the best combo, trickstabs and everything
2:10 bro blamed it on the teammates 💀
and had 9 DEATHS
The quality of this video on its own is better than people that have 1M subscribers
dash is the best combos with dagger xd
13:20 is hilariously true, it's unfortunate that people will judge the weapons based on how they're used on them before they even use it themselves.
Pyro nade detonates on contact and burns through objects and players behind cover.
I've used it to defend the floor below the objective and throw it on the ceiling when someone tries to cap. Its not great but at least it has some uses
If you want a pretty bad but really fun lode out try Medium with healing, the riot shield, the zip line, the jump pad and the defibrillator. It’s a hell of a time. And you don’t want to run healing you can run it just fine with turret as well :) love the content and keep it up!!!!
for first glance i thought the random wheel for gadget is actually exist in game....
when you pointed out the grenade launcher Nades exploding after the initial first bounce. Somehow seems like they took a marginal amount of inspiration from Overwatch with a lot of the tech in the game.
An interesting loadout which i saw both of my teammates using is mesh shield, flamethrower, pyromine, dome shield, and pyro grenade
Making me want to be the pyromancer😮
4:04 HEheHEhe - ottr 2024
dagger + dash is the best combo lol what are you on
heavy loadout : goo gun, flamethrower, goo nade, pyro nade, pyro mine
Ottr? I haven’t watched you in a while, when you did your educational Apex videos! I love this game so it’s good to see you playing it and having fun with it too… top 3 game!
Now do this with a full team of random loadouts in a ranked tourney
Whoever edited this went crazy, loved the quality, just went a little too hard with the subtitle pops and second time I see a ss of the timeline mid vid 😂 much love keep it up tho
Personally I think the grenade launchers should be more destructive to buildings makeing them serve a better purpose. Damage is already low and they can be completely negated by the aps. But having the ability to open a hole is allways nice and better chances they are clustered together in a room.
Hell no, Sledgehammer have no purpose if GL can do more destruction
Maybe increase explosives range much better buff or bigger bullet size so easier to hit directly on enemy
Loving the finals vids
Love more of these gameplay type videos - also as far as I’ve seen in my testing, the dash makes your hit box a lot smaller then normal. That’s probably why you felt like the dash had “aim assist” on it
this series is awesome
I'd like to see this, but with ranked tournament mode. Quick Play is just meaningless at this point
They need to make the grenade launcher like the softball from Titanfall 2
I feel like the grenade launcher should have a secondary fire making impact Grenade but it's slightly reduced damage. Replace the aiming because no one aims with it
I would enjoy seeing more of this for sure😂 great way to see styles of play too
Dash dagger is incredibly strong if not the best, but you have to know how to use it. Otherwise its not viable. The Akiba step is the best thing to learn using dash dagger.
Yo your teammates name on the third attempt with that heavy class 👀👀 that’s crazy!!!! Lmao
the fire in general gets rid of gas at all times anywhere. and smoke does the same to fire
legit the first loadout is my light build.....guess thats why im suffering. Also a fun build is: Medium, Grenade launcher, jump pad, exp mines, gas mines, recon senses. Basically junkrat from overwatch. I know its not realy bad but its fun.
Jokes of them, knife & dash is my current loadout lol. Start a dash and mid wake start back stab right click to back stab other players, very tricky but so much fun
Same here. It's pretty challenging and especially tricky to pull off under fire, but I've been practicing in the range, and it works. It's essentially the same mechanics as with the sabre but with the backstab, and you push through people's backs. Otherwise, you dash to close the gap and slice away. Again, it's pretty challenging but very rewarding once the practice pays off and you see it in action.
MGL is my most used weapon with heavy , the potential fun outweighs its shittiness lmao
Dash behind the enemy and strong attack (backstab), it's like 340 dmg (auto-kill) on all weight classes.
I’ve been playing heavy since open beta and I would challenge you to try the sledgehammer with mesh shield, frag, explosive mine, and flash. It’s a real struggle without range, sustainable cover, and any mobility utility but I think you can do it
How to make this random rolling thing please with the loadouts ?
love the concept keep making these challenges
first one is how i play lmao
Watching the launcher games. I think I saw some cases of your grenades bouncing off the enemies. If they made it so that they actually detonated on contact with an enemy, probably be a lot better and harder to rush down
cl-40 does that
I watched a dude throw an aps on a chair throw it at the vault and completely cleared out all the gadgets.
watching streamers/youtubers just be completely incompetent with non meta weapons is wonderful
exactly. this is hilarious, he also keeps using all his dashes to engage as if he doesnt need to get back out after lmaoooo
Honestly the grenade launchers projectile should not be affected by aps. I don't know what the devs were thinking.
With logic
dagger dash is hella fun to
I only found the Medium GL to be good cuz you can throw down a mine and just insta detonate it by blasting it
My totally credible sources suggest the development are planning on giveing heavies scatter mines and mini guns like team fortress heavy.
Happy birthday keep up the finals content pls
Take the revolver of the middle with recon sensors, glitch mine, sonar grenade and pyro grenade😁
I just figured out the worst loudout for medium. Its recon senses, riot shield, glitch mine, tracking dart, and recon grenade. Let me know what you think
Everithing + Recon Sens is good, not for the team, but you can get free kills always with wall hacks.
Damn the editing really went off throughout this video
U should do a loadout that consists of a medium build with a guardian turret, riot shield, aps turret (I think that is what it is called), sonar nade, stun gun. This should do u fine @ottr
You need to aim that grenade launcher on the ground in front of your target. It explodes after the first bounce..
I might be late to the party, but play light with grapple, dagger, thermal vision, sonar grenade, and goo grenade
i am watching this video after watching the movie matrix. And when i saw that repeatation on your video i freaked out
The dagger enjoyers seeing him say dash is ass with it🤨
should aim at the floor with heavy GL in cqb to exploit the fuse time
Question, what would you consider good with the dagger? I want to get good with the dagger and would like all different ideas for it. Current I use dash, stun, glitch, and invis bomb with it.
Replace stun or glitch with breach
Try replacing the glitch with goo. I just get more utility from it and it has many uses. Especially with melee since you can cut lines of sight to get closer
Motion sensor
I can't manage to make good use of smokes
The dagger isn’t half bad. I got like 6 kills with it once. I actually made a short about it
Bro I was literally gonna make this video lol. Happy birthday
I wanna see 3 mediums with no defib all running grenade launchers win a match
yo you can melee while you have your mesh shield up
Dagger dash was good when this was uploaded, and better then stealth in the present
they need to buff grenade gun
To me the dagger is the worse weapon in the whole game. In a game where people are on alert 24/7 using the dagger has the sole purpose of being behind the enemy. You'll see clips out there with the dagger going nuts but how long does it take for you to get those kills? Even with invis it's still hard to get a backstab and if you miss the charge attack the basic attack does just 50 damage which is pretty awful compared to the sword or really any other weapon the Light has. The dagger needs to do at least 60-65 damage in the light atttack and a faster charge on the backstab, to me that's the only way it can be concidered a good option.
Just entered this video to say that the Thumbnail is literally my loadout LOL
im so sorry for you
All of your sound effects are done KH?
Medium gl is a lot better I think bc it explodes on impact I tried it yesterday for the first time and it felt pretty busted
Personally I think if you have a mid healer with a gun and a mid with a turret then grenade launcher isn't that bad as a heavy player 😅
You sounded sooo concerned about that poor sniper that you can 1 shot and he can't even if he got a lucky hit.😅
You have a problem with the video @11:56. Cut wrong
Where do you stream
Twitch/TH-cam/Facebook/Kick/TikTok
If they increese the explosive splash and possibly change the shells to posion that would be sick
As a dagger main your gameplay is hard to watch
0:43 bro messed up the editing
Please, more of that random stuff...
why you switch c4 to an other xd
What is this music called
heavy GL isn't even that bad
What ist that crosshair?????
"its so bad" my brother in christ your triple dashing directly into another player. perhaps save dashes for a fight and play cooldowns? like tracer? loadout aint bad just because your not inventive enough to make it work.
11:53 what
I will not hear any CL40 slander😤
You get shut down by a thing of plastic.
Honestly, I have to give some props to the devs because almost nothing in this game feels useless. Nearly everything has its place and serves a purpose. How generally useful everything is might not be the greatest, but there is a way to leverage just about everything, though some really need synergy with your team and the right enemy loadouts.
What happened to apex😢
U dont Know how to use shield 😂😂
Cant Watch that
tf2 mensioned
Can’t believe what I just heard from you dagger and dash was once op you are just terrible
xd
Dude you lost literally all credibility when you said dash and dagger is a terrible combo. Like what? I get killed by people with that combo all the time. Dash with literally any melee is super valuable. What kind of thinking is that? Baffling
15th
Flash bangs are terrible
I’m the fucking first