I have this bike i personally love this bike. I upgraded the rear suspension to a 650 lb coil shock. Upgraded the disc rotors to 180mm. I have the dual battery version. But i upgrade the downtube batttery to a 30ah battery and kept the 2 13ah batteries for the top tube. The bike is very nimble when hitting corners on top charge i hit 29 the most but alway hit 28. But average speed is about 25 to 26. The problem with this bike is the controller is rated for 20a had they put at least 25a controller it be a little better but i think they did that for range. I was honestly happy that you mentioned it in the top 10. When i got it.... It was 1450 its now on sale on for 1200. Before this bike i had a 36v magnum pathfinder so i love this bike its not the fastest torqueiest bike but its built for range ,comfort and is smooth.
i got mine last year , 1st the seat was awfull and i found a link for a replacement (full lenght cafe racer seat) on amazon when it arrived i placed it the wrong way around this raised the front of the seat by around 4" i also changed the rear shock to a 210mm fully adjustable.. with the extra height and a soft flat seat it is a joy to ride and perfect for green laning it soaks up the bumps with ease.. my only gripe are the mudguards they make a right noise very tinny .. that said i dare say there are plastic replacements out there for the M20.. conclusion, lots of fun easy to use brilliant off road very comfortable (after seat n shock upgrade) great value for money. (bare in mind if you live in the uk the M20 is not road legal!) ive even looked into registering it but due to a lack of a conformaty document for the uk no dice! all a bit daft really it's a Ebike but dont't get caught out as i did if in the UK offroad only! it was only after buying it on Ebay about a month later i had a Ebay/dvla email telling me it's for off road/private roads etc.. the uk limit for Ebike's is 250watt motor not exceeding 15.5mph the M20 is 750watt (1000watt) peak.. and tops out at around 27/28 mph.. it basically is classed as a moped.. but you again cannot reg them here in the uk.. thankfully i live in a very rural location and surounded by miles of green lanes and woodlands to potter about i actually got the M20 to replace my mobility scooter after an hour juddering around the lanes on the scooter with the dog i would be in a right mess, now i enjoy hour's in comfort.. it's a pain in the butt i can't nip to the next village for milk etc.. but off road hell yes... also you can upgrade almost everything if needed, ps, if anyone has looked into regerstering a M20 in the uk please let me know if anyone's succeeded .. i would happily register tax insure etc if able.. the link for (NEW SEAT).. below, also a link to my channel showing the back to front new seat. www.aliexpress.us/item/1005004764257212.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt th-cam.com/video/QK_7wye7N44/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=peteburkitt
Luv Mine!! Got the dbl battery version done about 200 miles on it now had it about 3 weeks and cant complain yeah sure upgrades would be good but stock its fine. Im going to eventually get a more powerful hub but in the mean time ill change out the pedals,breaks,shock maybe chunkier tyers and chip the controller for more wattage to the motor doesn't give it more speed just quicker off the mark . Solid bike IMHO
Love mine aswell got it when they first came out upgraded rear suspension doing breaks soon fast enough for me. Being 54 but I’m glad I got it. Haven’t had any problems with it at all. I hope I haven’t jinxed myself now lol 😂 cheers for the honest video bro. Colin. London UK.
I bought the amyet v9 g60 moped style just the other day my first ebike. A little slow off the line kinda. Again it is cold out so like you said that effects the battery. 48v 20ah. I am going to look into a another battery for it for long trips. As it stands it is more than enough for what I need it for. I get 28.1 mph out of it and I am about 250.00 that being said when my daughter and I are both on it we are about 370-380 lbs the bike is rated for 330 lbs. It still has plenty of stoping power the suspension holds us both very well and 28.1 is still the top speed. I payed 1056.00 after the bike, shipping, taxes and I bought it with affirm so intrest. All in all I would say these two bikes really compete. Now the dual battery set up intrigues me a bit for a solar set up to tow a small trailer with a solar panel and battery to recharge one at a time but anyhow great review. I would love to see a review of the amyet done by you as I do not have a whole lot of time to put into it. But I have taken the amyet out my first day of ownership for 17 miles strait full tilt hills and all and still had plenty of battery left over so I am curious to see the range this summer.
life advice, dont watch reviews of something you already bought unless you have an actual problem with it. Nothing good can come out of it, it can only make you dissapointed
I do have an Rx but my Battery is dead so I searched for a replacement and saw that for the price of a new battery I could buy a brand new e bike too 😅 super73 is expensive and have an awefull customer care especially in europe
Thabks for an awesome review, and in the lower mainland where i live as well, cool to see. Would this bike be too small for a 6'1" rider weighing 220? Thabk you !
Those dull boring black tires, and the loud brakes are holding me off this. It's between this M20 and the G60 though. Trying to make a choice within the hour. 🤔
@thebikecave I have a problem with my M20 I bought it last year December 2023. Now after 3000km coz im daily use go to work every day 50 km I hear the sound very dry motor... I think planetary gears moving dry... By the way M20 MOTOR two sides screw ( left and right) Which side i open add grease for planetary gears I'll waiting your reply
I'd have to try and 3D print sides for it I hate these ebikes that just have nothing in the middle just looks weird! Are the Mags heavy? I remember having GT ones on my bmx GT performer they were heavy, and is the frame steel or alloy?
@@thebikecave If you take something like the goat bike v3 to compare against, you could use the extra 1400 for a controller (350) and battery (700) and also have a frame w/ better geometry. Might even be able to afford a qs205 motor with what's left over
Super helpful video thanx - and looks cool where you live! I’m 5’6” - do you think I’d be able to touch the ground on this? Also it’s pretty hilly where I live - any thoughts on whether it’s just not fit what it takes - I’m not bothered if it goes slow as long as I don’t get stuck halfway ! Thanks for helping!!!
Hi Thanks for the video I’m struggling to work this bike I’m unsure how to turn the main head light on as it’s turned off for some reason.. is there a button or setting to turn it back on or is it broken? I’ve tried the buttons for the lights on the handle bars but nothing is happening. Additionally, I am struggling to figure out how to run the two batteries so I can travel long distance . Currently the bike is running off the bottom battery but nothing is happening with the top battery Is there a setting or a button I need to press to operate the second battery? Thanks
batteries seems to be pretty big for a 13ah battery. Do you happen to know what the measurements are for the bottom crank? is it a standard 68-73mm or 100mm or 120mm?
Hey from Portugal.... A few days ago I purchased an M20 but a cant use it just using the handle, I always have to pedal, how do I activate auto mode? When I go to the advanced settings, it doesn't let me increase the speed, it always stays at 25 km, can you help?
It would be interesting to see how much a 2x would push out! My emtb is 1x12 crap when you run out of gear's i love the 1 X 12 but you do miss the 28 gears sometimes
Whare about in thw world are you? Its amazing how much it looks like the UK in this video just their driving on the wrong side gives it away but yeah looks pretty grim like here lol
Hey Doug! Just want to tell you thx for taking the time to comment on these topics! It helps the community greatly by sharing your experience with the rest of us. Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼 I’m in Vancouver Canada by the way…
I think it’s the shock they use back there… it’s soooooo long! I feel like if they used a shorter shock it would bring the seat height down quite a bit.
Thx for the kind words! I do have another channel! The other channel revolves around mountain biking… I’m slowly migrating all the e-bike content over here and will keep The Bike Cave dedicated to e-bikes, EVs, and cool gadgets!🤘🏻
Companies send bikes out to review channels all the time. TailhappyTV gets literally almost every bike that comes out. N he has a separate channel for high power bikes where he gets a bunch of other bikes. He has like 2 storage units full of bikes just stacked on top of each other.
![[#2024MAMA] BIGBANG (빅뱅) - 뱅뱅뱅 (BANG BANG BANG) + FANTASTIC BABY | Mnet 241123 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EQsYfiPR9uM/mqdefault.jpg)
I have this bike i personally love this bike. I upgraded the rear suspension to a 650 lb coil shock. Upgraded the disc rotors to 180mm. I have the dual battery version. But i upgrade the downtube batttery to a 30ah battery and kept the 2 13ah batteries for the top tube. The bike is very nimble when hitting corners on top charge i hit 29 the most but alway hit 28. But average speed is about 25 to 26. The problem with this bike is the controller is rated for 20a had they put at least 25a controller it be a little better but i think they did that for range. I was honestly happy that you mentioned it in the top 10. When i got it.... It was 1450 its now on sale on for 1200. Before this bike i had a 36v magnum pathfinder so i love this bike its not the fastest torqueiest bike but its built for range ,comfort and is smooth.
Thx for sharing Chris! Welcome aboard!🤜🏼🤛🏼
can you send me the link to what shock you got?
I have the same bike, I want to improve the speed in the future. What would you recommend me upgrading and what order?
I have this bike to and after a few upgrades, it’s spot on and love it!
Do you sell bikes if you how do I purchase one?
i got mine last year ,
1st the seat was awfull and i found a link for a replacement (full lenght cafe racer seat) on amazon when it arrived i placed it the wrong way around this raised the front of the seat by around 4" i also changed the rear shock to a 210mm fully adjustable..
with the extra height and a soft flat seat it is a joy to ride and perfect for green laning it soaks up the bumps with ease..
my only gripe are the mudguards they make a right noise very tinny ..
that said i dare say there are plastic replacements out there for the M20..
conclusion,
lots of fun
easy to use
brilliant off road
very comfortable (after seat n shock upgrade)
great value for money.
(bare in mind if you live in the uk the M20 is not road legal!) ive even looked into registering it but due to a lack of a conformaty document for the uk no dice!
all a bit daft really it's a Ebike
but dont't get caught out as i did if in the UK offroad only!
it was only after buying it on Ebay about a month later i had a Ebay/dvla email telling me it's for off road/private roads etc..
the uk limit for Ebike's is 250watt motor not exceeding 15.5mph
the M20 is 750watt (1000watt) peak.. and tops out at around 27/28 mph..
it basically is classed as a moped..
but you again cannot reg them here in the uk..
thankfully i live in a very rural location and surounded by miles of green lanes
and woodlands to potter about i actually got the M20 to replace my mobility scooter
after an hour juddering around the lanes on the scooter with the dog i would be in a right mess,
now i enjoy hour's in comfort..
it's a pain in the butt i can't nip to the next village for milk etc..
but off road hell yes...
also you can upgrade almost everything if needed,
ps,
if anyone has looked into regerstering a M20 in the uk please let me know if anyone's succeeded ..
i would happily register tax insure etc if able..
the link for (NEW SEAT).. below,
also a link to my channel showing the back to front new seat.
www.aliexpress.us/item/1005004764257212.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt
th-cam.com/video/QK_7wye7N44/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=peteburkitt
What seat did you buy? Do you have any photos of how it looks on the bike?
@@kahlqvist th-cam.com/video/QK_7wye7N44/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=peteburkitt
@@kahlqvist ive put the link up for you..
What da?! That seat holds on cheek n one ball. 😮
😂
Bike is cool, but first thing i'd do would be change those mechanical brakes for hydraulic ones.
Luv Mine!! Got the dbl battery version done about 200 miles on it now had it about 3 weeks and cant complain yeah sure upgrades would be good but stock its fine. Im going to eventually get a more powerful hub but in the mean time ill change out the pedals,breaks,shock maybe chunkier tyers and chip the controller for more wattage to the motor doesn't give it more speed just quicker off the mark . Solid bike IMHO
Thanks for sharing! I had a fun time with that bike too!
Love mine aswell got it when they first came out upgraded rear suspension doing breaks soon fast enough for me. Being 54 but I’m glad I got it. Haven’t had any problems with it at all. I hope I haven’t jinxed myself now lol 😂 cheers for the honest video bro. Colin. London UK.
I bought the amyet v9 g60 moped style just the other day my first ebike. A little slow off the line kinda. Again it is cold out so like you said that effects the battery. 48v 20ah. I am going to look into a another battery for it for long trips. As it stands it is more than enough for what I need it for. I get 28.1 mph out of it and I am about 250.00 that being said when my daughter and I are both on it we are about 370-380 lbs the bike is rated for 330 lbs. It still has plenty of stoping power the suspension holds us both very well and 28.1 is still the top speed. I payed 1056.00 after the bike, shipping, taxes and I bought it with affirm so intrest. All in all I would say these two bikes really compete. Now the dual battery set up intrigues me a bit for a solar set up to tow a small trailer with a solar panel and battery to recharge one at a time but anyhow great review. I would love to see a review of the amyet done by you as I do not have a whole lot of time to put into it. But I have taken the amyet out my first day of ownership for 17 miles strait full tilt hills and all and still had plenty of battery left over so I am curious to see the range this summer.
Thx for sharing Brad!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Never heard about that bike… I’ll check them out!
@thebikecave so it is not the s8 it is the v9 sorry.
life advice, dont watch reviews of something you already bought unless you have an actual problem with it. Nothing good can come out of it, it can only make you dissapointed
Throw a second hand fox float X or X2 on the rear end! I think it would benefit more with the DH coil on the rear of that bike
Yes! And a little shorter shock will lower the sitting height on it as well!👌🏻
Great vid! Fantastic!
Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
had I been to Engwe, I would have made it much more similar to the super 73, which is much more beautiful in my opinion
I do have an Rx but my Battery is dead so I searched for a replacement and saw that for the price of a new battery I could buy a brand new e bike too 😅 super73 is expensive and have an awefull customer care especially in europe
this bike can runs 45 to 55, just open the seat and unplug the limitator wire on the controller.
Good to know! Thx!🤜🏼🤛🏼
for real im thininking about getting it how would i do what u said
@thebikecave Have you tried opening it up to get it faster? Good video btw. Thanks
Which on is the limiter? 😇
Looks like you forgot to insert some graphics in post..😎
Shoot!🤦🏻♂️ thx for the reminder!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thabks for an awesome review, and in the lower mainland where i live as well, cool to see. Would this bike be too small for a 6'1" rider weighing 220? Thabk you !
Can you show a video of the controls of how to operate the lights?
Those dull boring black tires, and the loud brakes are holding me off this. It's between this M20 and the G60 though. Trying to make a choice within the hour. 🤔
Cool t-shirt 😎😎
🤜🏼🤛🏼
Nice work man
thinking of getting this bike would it be too small for someone who is 5'11" also how does this compare to the MEELOD DK300PLUS
might be a little small for you... I'd go Meelod for the longer range and better power.
@thebikecave I have a problem with my M20
I bought it last year December 2023.
Now after 3000km coz im daily use go to work every day 50 km I hear the sound very dry motor... I think planetary gears moving dry...
By the way M20 MOTOR two sides screw ( left and right)
Which side i open add grease for planetary gears
I'll waiting your reply
Not completely sure… most of the motors I’ve opened have been from the cassette side (opposite side the wire comes out of)
@@thebikecave Please take a look at your bike and let me know
thank you 🙏😊
I'd have to try and 3D print sides for it I hate these ebikes that just have nothing in the middle just looks weird! Are the Mags heavy? I remember having GT ones on my bmx GT performer they were heavy, and is the frame steel or alloy?
Yeah I think they’re a bit heavier but will most likely never go out of true…💪🏻
These would be especially nice if the upgrade path is easy, like whale shark batteries and space for a sabvoton controller under the seat
Yeah I’m sure you could upgrade everything but why not just get a better bike right off the get go.
@@thebikecave If you take something like the goat bike v3 to compare against, you could use the extra 1400 for a controller (350) and battery (700) and also have a frame w/ better geometry. Might even be able to afford a qs205 motor with what's left over
The seeker 24 I got for 1100 and its dual 1500w motors... Its an amazon cop still. doesn't have long battery but its fast and fun.
How safe is the bike? Electrical and battery?
Curious how these would do off-road
What app do you use for the speedometer and mount for your phone do you use?
Super helpful video thanx - and looks cool where you live! I’m 5’6” - do you think I’d be able to touch the ground on this? Also it’s pretty hilly where I live - any thoughts on whether it’s just not fit what it takes - I’m not bothered if it goes slow as long as I don’t get stuck halfway ! Thanks for helping!!!
You should be able to reach with your toes… I’m 5’9” and it was fine.
@@thebikecave Thanks!
Hi
Thanks for the video
I’m struggling to work this bike I’m unsure how to turn the main head light on as it’s turned off for some reason.. is there a button or setting to turn it back on or is it broken? I’ve tried the buttons for the lights on the handle bars but nothing is happening.
Additionally, I am struggling to figure out how to run the two batteries so I can travel long distance . Currently the bike is running off the bottom battery but nothing is happening with the top battery
Is there a setting or a button I need to press to operate the second battery?
Thanks
if i buy a 1500w 48v motor from amazon with their own controller would it work? or any tutorial our here
Not sure… it would have to match the controller and battery bms…
Thanks great video 💯💯😎😎✌️
🤜🏼🤛🏼
Hi
Is bike 740w continues or peak?
does the one on amazon come with 1 battery or 2
batteries seems to be pretty big for a 13ah battery. Do you happen to know what the measurements are for the bottom crank? is it a standard 68-73mm or 100mm or 120mm?
Sorry I don’t know, and I sold the bike already to make room for more bikes to review…
Is there a way to set a max throttle speed to 20mph?
don't think so...
nice review, I'm 6'3 and wondering if this is too small for me
Thx! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Watch Matt’s review on it… he’s 6’5”
th-cam.com/video/Em7Eyp2BOL4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xujAEoEJH8n76jH_
@@thebikecave oh wow thanks, looks like he can sit on it and pedal just fine
I am 6'2 - if you like pedalling this is not the bike for you... if you like to go by throttle only, its fine 🤙
Do you ever give any away??
you should do another review but with the new 19.2 ah battery
Sure if they send another one…😬
@@thebikecave 😂
I'd give it a custom paint job.
What would you say the recommended height is
For pedalling less than 6'2"
all ebikes are good. it's just how you use them.
Touché my friend!🤜🏼🤛🏼
So would you say this bike is a good city commuter
Yeah! Fun commuter bike with a smooth motor and decent range.
Actually If most of your trip on the first battery is down hill then you will have a problem getting back on the second battery :)
awesome video tyvm!
Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Hey from Portugal.... A few days ago I purchased an M20 but a cant use it just using the handle, I always have to pedal, how do I activate auto mode? When I go to the advanced settings, it doesn't let me increase the speed, it always stays at 25 km, can you help?
It might be different speed limits in Europe…
Do i need a licence for it or no?
depends on local/country law etc...
What’s the torque spec on the front wheel?
MY ENGWE ENGINE PRO WOULD EAT THIS...maybe
Hi brother can you tell in what company do you bay this moped i wanted
You buy it directly from Engwe. The link is in the video description.
Nice bike but typically it's illegal on UK roads , we can't have F××× all over here , private land use only
Please like and subscribe please share to friends and family's
🤜🏼🤛🏼
How fast does this go unlocked ?
It’s in the video… about 25ish mph
5:00 beep it!
No worries..otherwise great review!
Thx homie!🤜🏼🤛🏼
If one goes back to 1905 the bikes then motorbikes looked like these do
Wen bikes for 6' 300lb guys?
2A charger thatll be slow as heck! Better get a second charger for the other battery itll take 2 days ti charge it!
I know! I hate the companies that sell you a bike with 2 batteries and only one charger… makes no sense!🤦🏻♂️
10:45 who's doing that?
he is holding a 360 camera
Really like this bike. Seems a little under powered and the torque is low.
Forced me to go with another bike.
Yeah… just the way it is… Great for a new rider though. Easy to handle.
6:07 i think you forgot to put the list
I know… oops!🤦🏻♂️
It would be interesting to see how much a 2x would push out! My emtb is 1x12 crap when you run out of gear's i love the 1 X 12 but you do miss the 28 gears sometimes
❤❤❤❤génial ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Merci! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thats some bs. The ones that buy the single battery get a spare tank battery charger holder/storage. I was hoping it came with it as well.
Whare about in thw world are you? Its amazing how much it looks like the UK in this video just their driving on the wrong side gives it away but yeah looks pretty grim like here lol
Hey Doug! Just want to tell you thx for taking the time to comment on these topics! It helps the community greatly by sharing your experience with the rest of us. Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
I’m in Vancouver Canada by the way…
Why are they all so damn Tall?
I think it’s the shock they use back there… it’s soooooo long! I feel like if they used a shorter shock it would bring the seat height down quite a bit.
999? With 2 batteries?
Nope, it starts at $999 with one battery and is $1199 for 2.
code doesn't work.
🤷🏻♂️worked for me… contact the company….
Що не справедливо, так це те що в Україні він коштує 1322 $, а середня ЗП у нас 374 $.
Looks like you're sitting too low relative to the pedals
Yeah no height adjustment on that one…
13:49
"31 size 10s"
As an european I find this absolutely heretical
Lol 2:08
I'd rather ride a BMX bike!
Do you have another channel or something? I doubt a company would send you a bike for free if you didn't have a channel.
Great video btw.
Thx for the kind words! I do have another channel! The other channel revolves around mountain biking… I’m slowly migrating all the e-bike content over here and will keep The Bike Cave dedicated to e-bikes, EVs, and cool gadgets!🤘🏻
Companies send bikes out to review channels all the time. TailhappyTV gets literally almost every bike that comes out. N he has a separate channel for high power bikes where he gets a bunch of other bikes. He has like 2 storage units full of bikes just stacked on top of each other.
@@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67
Yeah I was confused because this was the first video on this channel and I didn't know about his other channel
@@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67 you know the biz!🤜🏼🤛🏼
This bike is actually trash. too hefty and bike. non portable, basic parts.
It’s only $999…🤷🏻♂️
scam video, bike worth 1.5k dual battery