How to MASTER the MOST Important Pickleball SHOT
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- Discover essential techniques to manage any shot from your opponents, ideal for pickleball doubles and mixed games. Enhance your skills rapidly with these invaluable pickleball tips and drills. Don't miss out on the EASY SCREENSHOT GUIDE for your next game!
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It’s a pleasure for a french guy to understand each word you say because you articulate well !! Thank you for your tips. Love your channel
I’m not French, but yes i agree
Thank you! 😃
@@johncincolapickleballyou’re welcome
"catching a ball in baseball" - fantastic analogy.
Good stuff. Been teaching this for a while bc share the same philosophy. I do think an explanation of wrist extension and wrist flexion is needed for most that never played high level of table tennis or doubles tennis just so they understand how to quickly receive and face the paddle to the ball. I try to make it as simple as possible and start with just using the hand first. "Palm forward " and "palm backwards"
Thank you! I really needed this!
great!
Totally agree with you John that this skill is more important than others. Knowing how to defend helps me a lot with bangers. They realize quickly that hitting hard is not always the answer. Some of them then target my partner 😞.
Yep, not my you can do about that except tell your partner to go watch my videos 😉
Agreed,..it’s a pleasure for an American guy to understand each word you say because of your enunciation. Plus the tips are tops.
Great video, thanks for the tips! Definitely the most important skill to have after understanding the basic fundamentals
Absolutely!
This was an outstanding video,Thank You as I struggle on the forehand. I find it difficult to use the continental grip to block both forehand and backhand as I feel I need to switch grips. Is there enough time to go eastern forehand to eastern back hand when blocking?
Love this video. Attended a tournament recently and realised that most points are won after rapid exchanges. Need lots of practice to attain better hand speed. I often wonder why most people pay such attention to the 3rd shot. To me, hand speed is what matters.
yes great point, best of luck w your future tournaments
John your one of my go to’s for good drills. This is good stuff. I’m a fairly new player with no previous racquet sports experience and have struggled at handling pace. Headed to the courts now to practice these drills with my “banger” drilling partner :). Thanks!
that is great! keep learning
Terrific video. Solid! Clearly stated points with no BS. Thanks John.
Much appreciated!
Awesome tips! That’s so much john Cincola
I'm the guy to hit it at. I either just watch the ball go by, or hit a weak ball after a speed up. I figured that I'm slower because I'm older. This is one part of my game I sorely lack. Thank you for this.
Love your channel and information. My concern is the counterattack position. You are stepping back to give yourself Moree reaction time but you are also giving your opponent the same extra reaction time but they are now at the NVZ line with an advantage. Thanks for your videos
Yeah, but usually they are attacking at an upward angle and if you have enough time to read the shot well you can counter it down and then step right back in to the line and be in control of the hands battle. The critical part is that you give yourself enough time and space to hit a strong counter.
Great video, just ordered a titan with your discount , thank you, (btw 'increments' is misspelled )
Really good stuff
Thanks!
The Snapshot is a great tool I use when drilling with friends!
Yea super easy to remember
As always, great content. Your comparison to catching a ball may be useful for some, but, ironically, for me it's something I have to work against in my own drill sessions. As a long time 3rd baseman, I was taught to "absorb" the energy from the ball. This means being "soft" in the hands and body for that instant of catch. Instinctively, after so many years of doing this, I would do that with an attacking pickleball, and while I was good at getting the racket to the ball, I wouldn't impart ANY energy back into the ball, and it would drop essentially at my feet. That works fine if my next play is to pick it up and throw it, but it sucks pretty bad if my appropriate play was to get the ball back over the net, 7 feet away. Just "catching" it isn't quite enough. Even in your videos you do have some forward swing. COMPACT, and CRISP are the thoughts that work best for me. And being RELAXED. Thank you for helping us to get better. You are a great coach.
Glad your made the transition from baseball to pickleball
Well, thanks. There were a couple of decades in between. I'm 70 years old, but old habits die hard.@@OfficialpickleBRAIN
Having "quiet hands" is a great problem to have though. You can more easily learn to add pop to a quiet setup then to learn to add control if the hands are swinging all over the place.
I love your channel. You remind me of an engineer!!
thank you very much!
This is awesome.
Thank you.
I really hope that people pick up on nuance of your drills, which at it's core is co-operative progression. A very good example of this is around 7:10 min mark where you show and talk about fast hands forehand to forehand, with emphasis on "keep it going for 3 min. to dial things in". I find too high of a percentage of pickleball players focus on hitting a winning shot vs keeping a rally, in both warm-up and drills.
Yep, you got it. The goal is to find the boundary of how fast you and your partner can go under control and then hang out there. You wanna push yourself without getting out of control. Good catch 👍
Increments
This was so helpful...thank you!
you are welcome!
Great video John
Glad you liked it.
John, love your content!
Could you tell me why the Vanguard Control is the paddle you prefer? I’ve played with mine now for 2 months and love it but just wondered why you personally think it’s the best. Thanks!
Great Question! the carbon face has nice grit and grab on the ball to produce spin. the grit on the Control lasts longer than the power air
Great video thanks.
Thanks
Awesome video; I’m going to save this one. Possible dumb question, is that Zane with you? I’m viewing on a small screen and can’t see very well.
Thanks, glad you liked it! Yeah, it’s Zane. We play a lot together down here in Austin.
Great content. Can you give me the name of the shoes you're wearing in this video 😍
screenshot summary, so smart
Yes, right?
If you know they are about to attack can’t you use also slide over so you can use your forehand?
Technically yes, but sliding/countering is a whole 20 minute video on its own. There’s a ton of nuance on when to slide/which direction to slide and when you can do it. Stepping back is the far simpler way to handle it.
I aint stepping back!
ok The Grease
Finally someone saying the ready position is more in front low towards the belly button relaxed and not up at the chin. I see you're hitting with Zane. I commented on his video where his ready position was much higher and then he never had it high up while in actual play (along with every pros ready position being lower). Maybe NOW he will do a correction. lol
It's funny that you say this, I recently started working with Zane in a coaching capacity and this is one of the first things we addressed. He's coming out with a video soon to address the change.
You know what? I think you're right. Resetting is not winning me points against aggressive bangers. I'm going to try to employ your method starting tomorrow.
You got this!
Which version of the vanguard control?
Invikta, I like the longer one for my two hander
Do you prefer the lightweight or the mid-weight paddle? I'm not in as good of shape as you are (weight training), so the lightweight paddle would be better for me?
Great video, John!
Epic model for a one-handed backhand was my choice and I'm REALLY happy with it... the "midweight" isn't that heavy so I went with it for the additional power that it provides - the lightweight is REALLY lightweight and probably sacrifices even more power, as the Control IS a control paddle that offers CONTROLLABLE power on demand...so my coach recommended going with the heavier "midweight" model... YMMV....
Thanks for the great reply, Scott!
I have written a couple of larger comments on pickleball channels lately, perhaps here or at Pickleburner, about how your opponents won't dink in intermediate rec play unless you make them dink by at least feasting on the worst of their opponent's unwise speed-ups.
This video addresses the central issue I raised in those posts.
Fantastic!
The comment about proactively dropping back to cope with the counterattack after pulling the trigger yourself was new material I've never seen before on any other channel.
I wish John had covered the other aspect of spacing as well, which is funneling as a partnership toward balls you've kicked wide (perhaps with a crosscourt dink), which are attackable, but not wisely attackable, with your paddles up, in "hunt" mode, either sensing the opponent is off balance and about to set you up above the net, or sensing that the opponent is unwilling to concede that returning the ball on a long crosscourt dink is the safest option.
Pickleburner has a great video from the last few days about the skillset required to play left, in the style of Ben Johns. One of the requirements is confidence in your ability to hustle to your exposed wing to hit a delicate dink back to the middle again. Few shots are more rewarded by a Cinola's vaunted pause between arrival and execution.
But this isn't just about playing left. It's also about having any ability to funnel hard as a team to feast on an unwise speed-up from outside an margin of the opponent's kitchen. For shorter players, the person in the middle might even need to straddle the center line to completely close off the middle gap in the partnership to an unwise speed-up, while their partner camps on a drive down the line. At my level of mixed play, 90% of my partners refuse to camp hard enough on the outside line, because they aren't used to their partner coming in tight to close the gap in the middle, because their partners generally have no faith in their ability to chase down a crosscourt dink to their exposed side.
The whole thing is a horrible, self-propelled loop. At my level, the long crosscourt is rarely attempted. Even those who could likely pull it off rarely bother, because the unwise speed up is almost always low-hanging fruit. You've got an option to fire down the line and maybe pick the back corner. The compulsive bangers are often quite good at this. You can flick it straight at the person in front of you, or very tight into the hips or shoulders. You can attack the gap in the middle, low and away, in baseball terms, with a 45 degree axis of rotation, so it bends down enough to permit hitting it hard on an upward path, but also bends away from the player nearest you, so that the opposing team can't possibly figure out who should really field that ball (they both need to rush to a predefined boundary, but there isn't any advance agreement about where this line ought to be, so they play the "flinch" system, where they are both trying to guess who is moving earlier or harder, and sometimes both end up backing off).
Most of these players don't generally try to execute the long crosscourt themselves, and usually when they do, they aren't facing an active funnel. So they don't fundamentally recognize the degree of risk here when performing this shot. First, you have to miss the net by hitting the ball high enough. Second, you have to get it past the outstretched arm at center court. This won't happen if you angle the ball much behind the NVL at the far side. It also won't happen if you kick the ball too high, inviting it to be picked off on the run as it sinks back down. Next, if the ball is excessively short, it will land in the center of the kitty court as a dead dink. Finally, if the ball has too much run, it will land foul on the far side. I pretty much guarantee that most of the bangers I face are going to set their toes up to take a good look at driving the ball down the outside line. From that foot position, I don't like their odds on the long crosscourt they rarely ever attempt. And even then, most of the larger or more more mobile players can run it down pretty easily, in any case, even if only well enough to attempt a short dink in response.
And suppose you do get beat by this long crosscourt after you funneled hard as a team to pressure an outside ball? Okay, so there's now one opponent in twenty with a skillset you need to respect by chilling half a step on how hard you funnel. I wouldn't even do that. Instead, I'd tip my hat to my elite opponent for giving me such an excellent feed to practice running down. So much better than another twenty opportunities to practice defending against an unwise speed up into the middle, enabled by taking up the wrong court position with your partner in the first place.
At my level of mixed open rec, leaving an exposed flank open to a long crosscourt dink is the cost of doing business to feast on an unwise speedup into the middle gap, as commonly stuck off a slightly loose ball in the pressure zone at the far edge of the opponent's kitchen.
I mean, I deliberately kick the ball out there (not always loose) in order to take advantage of getting my opponent moving and widening the gap between them, as every intermediate video on dinking has recommended for years now.
I slide hard to the middle to close the middle gap with my partner, but my partner doesn't trust me to do this and consequently fails to close off the outside lane, and-boom-the ball comes back hard up the outside line for an easy winner.
Or my partner kicks it out there, so I sit hard on the outside lane (rather than moving as much toward my partner as usual), and my partner fails to slide into the middle to close the gap between us, and-boom-a crazy fast, low, corkscrew ball goes flying between us. I won't call that an easy winner, because some of the aging, former racquetball players in our group have crazy skill at this shot, but it's certainly a _routine_ winner.
The custom in my open rec is to partner up to achieve the best competitive balance. The usual result is that the weaker player is a 3.0 or a 3.25 while the stronger player is a 3.25 or a 3.5. We don't normally let the 3.5s (or above) play with partners of equivalent skill, at least not until the last half hour of a two-hour block, when it's the only partnership that hasn't been played yet (tends to lead to a short game). When you finally get a pair of 3.5s on the court together, there's usually enough combined aggression to lessen the problem with these gaps, even if positioning isn't great.
I want to give my partners the easy instruction: When the opponent speeds up a low ball from out wide, I want you camping 100% on your backhand (or forehand) to close the outside lane, and the rest is up to me. But this can only work if my partner is comfortable with me taking the ball right up to their opposite shoulder, and sometimes quite briskly. Many of our group are in their early retirement years. Only the most adventuresome of my female partners would even think about allowing hard swings to pass beside their body with barely any separation. I don't see this as risky, because it's pretty easy to let the ball go when you haven't got a clean swing path, but they have no direct experience from the other side, and it's hard for them to understand this from the perspective of my sasquatch shoes. What's more, the point of this formation is to discourage the opponent from even _trying_ this shot in the first place, and into making the safer dink instead, so once the opponent learns their lesson, it shouldn't remain a routine situation.
I starting to contemplate all this to answer the basic question: Why do we hardly ever dink? Beyond the lack of a good 3rd shot drop, this is the other half of the answer I finally converged upon.
As a final note, I'm glad John gave us a dire time estimate of 250 ms for the pro level. If both sides impact the ball two feet into the kitchen, the flight path can be as short as ten feet. Forty feet per second is around 25 mph. Non-professional players can't hit the ball this hard with a short backswing. On one video I watched, a guy did an audio analysis of hands battles at his local pickleball park, and didn't find many ball strikes much less than 400 ms apart. This doesn't mean they were hitting it harder, but it does mean that very few balls struck faster than 15 mph from ten feet away came back again at that play level. That seems about right to me. The pros get 50% more speed from a swing 33% shorter, in part on better strength, but mostly on better timing and mechanics.
Wow, this is a lot to process. Good stuff though. I love the analysis
Increments is spelled wrong in the graphic.
I thought so, it was too late when I noticed.
Just thought you’d want to know for future reference.
Oops. Spelling error. "Increment'. Otherwise great vid
His form is so good he can't demonstrate the poor form
It’s painful for me to do it wrong. 😉
Is Zane available as a practice partner? 😂
good vid but lose the sfx on the title cards... distracting :)
great, now just need to find an equivalent player. yeah.