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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- This weekend, I got to play with Pro Pickleball Player, Jaume Vich (6.6DUPR), who is not only a top level player, but a TOP level coach. In this video, he breaks down how he serves so hard and teaches me a few tricks.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - Jaume's Serving Position
2:35 - Jaume Critique's Ed's Serve
3:15 - The Ball Goes Where the Hand Goes
5:19 - Hip Rotation and Forward Momentum
6:25 - Fixing Ed's Error
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - Jaume's Serving Position
2:35 - Jaume Critique's Ed's Serve
3:15 - The Ball Goes Where the Hand Goes
5:19 - Hip Rotation and Forward Momentum
6:25 - Fixing Ed's Error
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Love watching Jaume play, great attitude and quick as hell…. Look forward to seeing him for a long time.
So cool to see him break it down like this, thanks Ed
One of the more valuable lessons I have seen on serving and interesting.. Thanks for sharing.
Man Jaume is an absolute gem of a player. Watching this after seeing his recent singles games vs Ben and Federico is so useful. Thanks for the content bro!
Finally found some serving information that will be helpful! Great stuff!
What a great video. Such excellent understanding of what he's doing, as well as what he's trying to do, and then he has a great ability to articulate how he's doing it. Being able to verbalize your methodology is a rare trait.
I've been looking for a killer TH-cam video on how to get a powerful, accurate serve... Look no more. Here it is. Great interview. Great instructions. And fun! Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
Dude if you played tennis at any decent level it’s not that hard. It’s just a hard top spin motion low to high 🙄🙄🙄
Love this. Got some great tips to work on my serve. I've been playing for 4 weeks now and I feel my serve has really improved playing around with a few things. Coming from playing golf for 15+ years I have the body control and rotational balance to be comfortable swinging my paddle while cranking up the power this video helps. Now that I stand more horizontal to the back line when serving rather than vertical to the back line I feel much more power getting into the shot with my rotation.
oh hells yeah i got my popcorn ready !!!!!!! thanks ed that lesson is gold jaume is awesome
Outstanding editing to really demonstrate the differences.
Excellent clip...big props to JMV!
Super useful advice. Thank you!
Ed - your reactions to his demonstration of his serve is awesome!!
it is always great to learn new tips, Thanks Ed
Thanks for the slow-mo. I wish everyone would do that
And Ed, you did a great job absorbing Jaume's lesson, and translating it into your own serve. Very impressive!
Thanks for sharing your lesson....you have great content
Ed "Great" content and thank you for sharing this. Jaume had me after the pushups in the Final and then saying "I am here to stay." He is not kidding.
Became a fan of JMV because of this. So much knowledge dropped here. 👍🏼
Love the slow mo. Shows a lot. Thank you
Thx for the video. I see these tips helping me gain power and speed.
I've watched this video over and over. I love this shxt
That is an awesome vid. As in intermediate player I am trying to get away from the bowling alley serve and this helped me so much!
Wow, seems like a really cool dude. Great tips for sure! Thanks for the video.
This was a great demonstration!!
Very nice!! Love the instructions!!
This is my favorite Serve video!!
Nice informative video by a great player that actually has fun competing at the highest levels...win or lose. Keep getting it done JMV!
This is a perfect serve with such little effort!
Great content!!! Thank you.
best pickleball video ive seen so far
Look forward to more collaboration tutorial videos with Jaumem!
Sick video !
😯Ed's jaw drop at 3:57 ... to 4:14 is Priceless!!!!!
Fantastic
Hey thx for that Ed, as a Sixzero ambassador here in Australia this was super informant as well as cool because well he is our Sixzero poster boy 😂 I have a good serve, very similar style but a couple of extra tips there I can implement.
Hi Ron, beginner player here and so far I've fallen in love with love with the sport. I've been eyeing the Ruby sixzero paddle and would love to get my hands on one. When do you think it'll be back in stock?
Cheers from the USA
@@topdogsean1 G'day I believe the next batch of Ruby's will be on Sunday 28th April 6pm New York time
This is an exceptionally useful clip
When he said “the court is kinda short”
I felt that
So, I'm a Tennis player crossing over to pickleball, and I hate watching these videos more often than not, because I'm NEVER learning anything new. However, I actually learned a lot from this particular video & loved how it was a Tennis player crossing over to the pickleball world like myself... Keep up the great content! 🤟🥒💚
first half of that comment had me sweatin. glad the video was helpful 👍
@edjupickleball Nope, it was Great! I just wonder if I can implement what I learned into my serve, because I drop the ball to prevent anybody from calling my serve illegal. Lol
Non of these videos actually show how to move to the right spot on the court. They are all about a static position shot which the serve fits right in.
@gg80108 What is the point of your comment? Serving is a static position. You're not getting a running start into it. Even if you could, and it wasn't against the rules, it would be even more difficult to have a great serve. Timing your mechanics if you were running AND jumping into a serve would be Ungodly Difficult! 🤣🎾 Rofl
@@masterplumbob8922 Yes serve and return and stand there and wait till they hit it to chase it. See how well that works. Everyone goes through the cannonball phase, tennis crossovers especially.
Jaume is a beast, and I like that he's one of the pros using a DBD. :)
Just the Black Diamond actually, no double. Specifically the "Amethyst Pro Edition" - I use the same one. It hits harder from the baseline (with quite a bit more spin) and has a lot of pop for speed ups and hand battles at the kitchen, but it's a bit less forgiving than the DBD if you don't have a delicate touch for softer shots.
Side note - its this confusion that makes me wish Six Zero gave their paddles names that weren't so similar.
The pro model has the original face material as the first dbd. It's a little more gritty and definitely has alot of pop and spin.
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He’s also using a hesacore grip. His code is:
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@@edjupickleball That's awesome! I've got the same setup with the hesacore on mine too. :)
explosive!
Thank you for the instruction. I will just need lots of repetitions.
I do a similar serve but with a semi western grip. The semi western grip rquires you to hit the serve further in front of your open stance and faster paddle speed. If you can make the adjustment, the reward is a serve speed. If you can bend your knees and use a lower paddle starting positon, you trade faster speed for more spin. These adjustments should be easy for tennis players.
I do the same but from a more traditional tennis serving stance and add the hips into it for MORE power.
If you follow Teacherman hitting for baseball hitting. There are a lot of similarities, he's setting up with torsion torque on his right leg for pre-loaded pop.
After 2 other versions of serve I've been using one very similar to this for a couple of years now.
At times it's almost not fair. Return team really has to pay attention or they hit into the net or deep out..
I can hit back 2 feet of court almost at will..
Freezes the Return team..
Is an eastern or semi western grip better for hard topspin serves like Jaume’s? I’ve been using eastern but wondered if semi western would allow me to use the same power but keep the ball lower with more topspin. My missed serves are always out balls, not net balls.
❤Jaume!
This mostly looks like a modern tennis forehand. Curious if anyone can get a next gen wrist lag to work with a volley serve. I sometimes do it on my drop serve but lose some consistency doing it....
Ed, your serve got much better at the end. You were more relaxed all the way through instead of tightening up at the end.
100% it’s changed the way I serve big now. I truly never knew I was serving inefficiently like that before he brought it up.
Ed great videos as usual I have a question, what grip is Jaume using when serving & does it change straight after the serve?
He does switch his grip. We actually filmed a second video where he goes super in depth about his grip. Working hard to edit that ASAP for you guys
I miss playing tennis cause I like smacking the ball hard with top spin with my forehand and backhand and hear a good pop.😁
This is what experienced, accomplished tennis players do!
It’s standard kinetic chain with top spin.
He ready for tennis.
Not a pickle ball player but I see myself playing soon. Question, when he releases the ball. It seems like it moves up a bit and is not dropped. Is that right?
He's slapping it
He's brushing it...standard topspin forehand...semi-western grip. No slap...his wrist is pronating, not breaking...like a slap, big difference.
What grip does Jaume use for his serve? It looked like a continental toward Eastern.
He lifted the ball up on the serve.
Needs to just drop it.
What part of the ball is he hitting bottom half or middle?/Need help please
As a former Tennis pro I really like playing Pickelball. These constant and confusing rules is over complicating the game. Like what's the difference? Waist height for a 6' 6" player is way different to someone that's 5' short. Any underhand serve should be allowed. Too many rules and constant changes are just unnecessary.
Sweet. Did you play on the ATP Tour?
@@bchansensI was a National Jr and Sr #1 player for my country back in the 80's. Actually played in Orange Bowl and Jr Wimbledon and then D1 tennis for my University on a Tennis scholarship. Was a lot of fun.
I 100% agree.
Just allow tennis style serve in all Pro level matches . Problem solved.
@@subaruguy7258 we may have just missed each other. I play the Orange bowl in 1989 and 90. Then on the tour for a few years. I wouldn’t be caught dead on a Pickleball court again 😂. I played for three days w “good” players and everyone was asking me how long I’ve been playing and if they could take lessons. lol.
Way to go jaume. Beat ben Johns. Amazing
He holds it at the end and whips his wrist too. I like his paddle much better than the Selkirk.
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Good tips if you want an avg. serve 😏
What grip is he using? Semi-western?
For tennis players it looks like a semi-western grip forehand. Fairly simple
Jaume serve is fluid and looks more natural.
just a tennis player here and i cant tell the difference between PB serves/FH. @Ed ju, if you want to hit that serve back, my guess is that you need to stay lower and dont open your shoulders so much.
Please explain what your numbers superimposed on the screen mean.
Watch the pros, almost none use a high-powered serve. For a few reasons
1) it's more likely to go out or hit the net and missed serves are the worst possible thing since it robs you of any point chance
2) excellent players can return a hard serve no problem. The 2-bounce requirement means that the return doesn't have to be amazing to get the volley started
3) Someone with a crazy hard serve likely can't calibrate the swing to go less hard middle or front of court so they very often just hit the ball out
A consistent deep serve is all you need. Power and topspin only work against weaker players but do you really feel better racking up points against weaker players? It doesn't make your game any better
In table tennis there was a change of paddle material from sand paper to a rubberized surface that changed the game. Is this the same thing where the surface material better grips the ball?
This happens like every other month in pickleball right now lol
He stole that from me. I’ve been hitting that serve for 2 years. 💪🏼
Is that a 14mm or 16mm 6.0?
Correct if I'm wrong and whether this is allowed in a service move. I see palm down holding ball - good. I see upward movement of paddle during swing - good.
I also see a slight upward movement of ball holding hand then ball moving upward slightly upon release... is this a legal move??
Yeah, I was looking at the slo-mo and thought I caught that. His right hand holding the ball moves upward and at ball release, the ball "floats" just a fraction of a second before dropping (because the ball/hand was moving upward when his hand releases the ball). I'm not enough of a pickleball rules scholar to know if this is within the rules. However, it seems to me that the intent of the rules regarding a drop serve is to have no upwards travel of the ball. He seems to be just on the edge of the drop serve rule. As quick as he is with his service motion, it would be very difficult to call this in real time.
How fast is that serve? Probably a lot slower than an average tennis serve.
What is the clocks aya g in upper left screen? is that ball speed? 60 & 70 mph?
Time, less than a second
I have that same paddle. The most insane spin of any paddle ever…. By far. It’s a ProXR. However the balance and sweeet spot is complete trash even with lead tape on it. The paddle is better suited for singles than doubles.
Is he using a eastern forehand grip when serving? Looks like borderline semi western. I come from a tennis background as well.
We actually recorded a second video where he goes super in depth into his grip- working hard to edit that ASAP for you guys.
@@edjupickleball I agree with @eh4236, Borderline Semi-western. As a tennis player playing PB now. This was a good basic lesson on tennis topspin forehands and basically how a coach feeds the ball to intermediate/advanced players. I hope @edjupickleball explains how much practice is needed to not hit the ball into the ground on your own side with this grip. Also, the need to immediately switch your grip after the serve. Please also mention how this could lead to wrist injury and tennis elbow (especially if you're new to the grip and wrist brushing motion).
Is Jaume using the 14mm?
How do you keep the ball from not going long when hitting it so hard? I can hit with good top spin but the ball still goes over the back line way too often.
Hit less ball.
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What grip?
Isn’t contact made above the waist which I believe is illegal
Pickleball is America's fastest-growing sport and we like it #Pickleball
PPA Masters Beta illegal since his hand moves up prior to drop correct?
Correct, if this was in the PPA Masters in the Pro Division specifically, this would be illegal.
For anyone that does not have a 6.0+ DUPR or plans on competing in pro PPA events, you’ll likely never have to worry about that rule.
Ping pong, tennis, and every other real racquet sport says hold my beer...😅
Pretty sure that's a RAW Carbon paddle, if so it will add more spin to the ball than the Selkirk.
Jaume is sponsored by 6.0. His signature paddle is the Black Diamond JMV.
It’s called a tennis ATP forehand! 😂
Those are all returnable serves, fast or not, they are returnable, as I've seen many 5.0 players with excessively fast serves as well.
Everyone goes through the cannonball stage, but anyone you play at your level gets it back. You can wow the people rated below you, but that does not take much.
Bro gotta be like 5’5 max 😮 hope for us short kings!
He's 5'9"
It looks like he's going corner to corner in about 0.8s. 40mph roughly? That's pretty impressive with very little backswing.
Yeah I think I’m going to buy a speed gun to get more accurate speed readings. In real life it’s just blur. So much of his power is coming from his legs and hips. And his movements are so efficient.
I use a drop serve and avoid questions of legality.
Hahaha this underhand kick serve is new to these paddle board players? Tennis players have been doing these kick serves for years, most notable Nick Kyrgios
On the left side he says he jumps into it. Isn’t it illegal to leave the ground when serving?
One foot must be grounded on contact of ball. He would have much less power if both feet were airborne on contact. Just not practical.
What’s his paddle 6.0 purple diamond?
6.0 Black Diamond (Not the Double Black Diamond)
Would love to know what grip he is using.
We actually filmed a second video where he goes super in depth about his grip. Working hard to edit that ASAP for you guys
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Well that was super stinkin cute
We try our best.
Looks like serves I’ve played against..not to be a stickler, but his hand is moving up with the ball when he releases..In PB, don’t the rules specify you are required to drop the ball, or drop and hit it off the bounce?
He's literally just teaching you how to hit a standard semi western tennis forehand with typical finish points.
in tennis, we call that a forehand