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Correct sizing of your battery is very important. I added a Powerwall this July to complement my solar array. Effectively go off grid in summer and pay 7.5p per kWh in winter to charge PW and EV. PW has ample capacity to run house each day even in mid December. The fact that it’s thermally managed also means no drop off in charge/discharge rates in depths of winter.
Couldn’t agree more
Had 19 415w panels with optimisers on each panel. 9.5kw givenergy battery gen3 and givenergy gen3 inverter for just under £12k installed. East west facing but generating well from October install
Time for you to add a second battery!
I built my own small 1000 watt system here in Jamaica and it supplies about half my power. Definitely worth it. Cheers!
were you able to install it on a zinc roof?
@@Prince-fr2lr No, they are ground mounted on a wooden frame. The property is rented so cant put stuff on the roof. I got another panel so now im up to 1330 watts and a second 100ah LiFePo4 battery is on its way. I'm addicted to solar and its my hobby that saves me money.
These guys installed my panels for me! They couldn’t have been more professional and helpful.
Answered every query I had (and I had a lot!).
Highly recommended
Our pleasure!
Great job guys ❤️🙏🏻💪🏻
That 3rd install with the flat panels, eeek! All the water pooling is going to create moss etc, blocking the sunlight. He should get those panels tilted. Hope you gave him that advice 🤞
Very interesting and informative! Thanks for the info!
Glad it was helpful!
It depends on what you call small scale for wind, if we are talking even 10kW it's pretty effective at that point if you are in a windy area without a lot of building around.
Solar seems so much more complex than standard electricity installation. A fuse box and a metre but from what I see here, so many gadgets for solar. I was wondering about the outside of the house when the panels are added onto to the roof or wherever. What kind of trailing is there? If you have an aerial, for example, there is a cable running along an outside wall. Solar panels that I have seen have only been from a distant and only the roof. I haven't seen any close up of the outside of any home.
Love the video 🎉
Thanks 😁
Very informative video!
Glad it was helpful!
Suspect the first customer wish he had got a second battery for that size array. Great setup and video.
I had our system put in in September 2022. It's a west facing, 8 x 395W JA Solar panel array (3.16kWp) coupled with Growatt 3.68 kW inverter & a 3.3 kWh Growatt battery. It cost £8,750.
Our annual domestic consumption is 2,050 kWh & the system, in its first year produced 2,500 kWh. We're on the Octopus Flux tariff.
If I could go back in time, I would NOT have gone the solar route. It took me a while to realise it, but for low power consumers, solar is hopelessly uneconomic!
Think about it. At the Octopus standard tariff of 28.8p/kWh, my 2,050 kWh would (excluding standing charge) cost £590.40/year. So the cost of the system was 14.8x my annual bill, so14.8 years until the thing breaks-even (assuming it doesn't breakdown in that period!).
It's not the best investment in the world is it??
sounds similar to what I've arrived at looking at components and trying to run the numbers. What you DO get is a toy powerplant with cool components to play with on your phone. Like the miniatyre train sets retirees played with in the past. If you invest that sum instead you could easily double the money in the time it takes to make a profit with your toy powerplant system.
I'm not in the UK, but it always surprises me how little electricity you guys seem to use, obviously you use gas for a lot of your energy needs. I'm in New Zealand, and electricity is used for just about all heating, with wood burners still being used by some, but most people use heatpumps for both heating and cooling. Hot water systems are just about always electricity, often controlled to off-peak times for a small cost saving. Cooking is usually electricity too. The result is, using 10,000 kWh a year is typical for many households, so solar makes complete sense.
@@Pete856 I'm probably an atypically low user. My annual gas consumption (for heating & hot water) this year will be a mere 3,550 kWh. It's not so much because I'm a committed eco-warrior & more because I'm a lifelong tightwad! However the energy stats suggest I'm not alone. National electricity consumption has dropped from 312 TWh ten years ago to 248 TWh in 2023. Likewise gas consumption, especially since Putin invaded Ukraine, has dropped like a brick. The latest government figures suggest it dropped by 20% in 3Q23 vs 3Q22 to levels we haven't seen since the 1970s! All forms of energy in the UK are eye-wateringly high & this is giving rise to a phenomenon known as fuel poverty. This is what happens when you put a bunch of doctrinaire Right-wing reckless shitheads in charge of the country for 13 years!
Sol Fuel did my solar system and i could not be happier in the summer months i run total off solar saves me so much money
Thanks, Stefan! We're delighted with the results!
Brilliant video from a brilliant company dedicated to customer experience and outcomes! Looking forward to the next video 👍
More to come!
I still think solar companies charge a fortune to install. If I could start over I’d go to companies like its technologies and buy 15-20kwh system with panels and hire an mcs registered installer to install the system. After pricing my 5.8kwh system the actual cost for hardware was just under 3k, I paid under 10k for my system to project solar. Take away scaffolding costs and instal cost, I’m sure they walked away with a healthy margin.
I called them recently to add more batteries and they tried to charge me 3.5k to move up an extra 2.88kwh. And 4.5k to go to 5.7kwh. The system I have is a plug and play system. ( Fox ecs 2900 ) so I did it myself. I bought the battery for 930£ and it took me 10 minutes to install.
To add the hardware cost for 22 panels and 15-20kwh system would have cost me about 6k if I’d gone directly to a supplier. My payback would be far faster.
I don’t mind paying a company to do it myself, I’m still seeing around 20% per annum on my system which is much better then what I’m getting with money in the bank.
A rising tide lifts all boats, but it releases yachts first.
SOUND IS SO QUIET, I CANT HEAR IT PROPERLY !!!
you need more batteries and not more solar. you could have a heat pump for heating, looks like ground source would be good at your property
I don’t have a big house or an attached garage so really not an option for me.
Would be interested in the yearly maintenance cost and life expectancy of the systems
We'll be filming some more content around previous client soon, so will be sure to add this in.
£100 back during the summer
Whole quarter
Is it case for a bigger battery?
6kW solar 3kW inverter?
This works really well in the UK, always over panel, better for the grid, better value for you.
I wish someone would explain why the feed in tariffs are not a like for like. If grid charge 40p a kilowatt I want 40p a kilowatt back
That’s just business I guess 🤷🏼♂️
Store it, use it yourself
Add batteries
Interesting stuff
Imagine being a retailer and being forced to buy the same product you sell for the same price you charge from anyone who wants to sell it.
You have to provide your product on demand as needed by the public but they can wander in at random and demand you buy what they have even if you can't sell it before it expires.
Sound like a good business model to you?
The poor who can't afford solar are the ones who will pay for your share of maintaining the grid.
I think 4 or 5 to one is a fair ratio for using the grid as a battery. Don't like it don't sell them any and buy yourself a bigger battery.
If you grew apples how many apples would you want to charge me (when I'm selling them at my convenience) to give me back an apple whenever I want it back?
Yeh for 2 people 5kWh espically with an EV isn't much, for a single person household I would say 5kWh is about enough if you are carful to move loads around to times where you are generating plenty of solar, but for 2 people 10 to 15kWh is really want you want, 5kWh is really lacking if for 2 people if you want a high self consumption. As said person 5kWh is enough to 80 - 90% of the time with some careful power usage shifting is enough to keep you off the grid, but you would probably want 10kWh so you don't have to be so mindful of moving loads to specific times.
For a whole family of 4 I would I would say 15 - 25kWh is want you want depending on your usage, really I do think EV manufactorers should start doing bi-driectional AC so you can use your car as a house battery, because even a hybrid with a sensible electric range is going to have 15 - 20kWh of battery capacity and if you can use that for the evening and charge cheaply during the night that would be a pretty nice usage.
How about 3kw system with small battery?cost wise and if its worth it?
If you’re having a system it’s the inverter and batteries that are a big portion of the cost.
I’ve got 20 panels and 12Kwh batteries. I have 3 phase electrics though which is a huge advantage as I can export 8KW in summer.
Standard single phase systems will likely clip during the summer.
Go big as you can. Panels are the quickest payback item.
Would be interested 3kw system 6kw and 9kw.
Is that for your own property?
I've got a system I designed and built myself
@@SolFuel mainly for comparison
15k Seems a high price for the 6kw system? I've just been quoted 9.5k for 6.375kw with 2 2.5kwh batteries
Pay cheap... pay twice as they say
This scary highly cost of battery storage, is published by the electricity supplier, which doesn’t wants you be a self sufficient
Batteries need to improve in storage and come down significantly in price for the existing electricity utility monopolies to be really disrupted.
I see the government is doing away with VAT on batteries from 1st February. I intend to get 2 more then. But solar, it is the biz in summer, not so much in winter. Indeed, lately I have gone days without producing nigh on any to either export or charge the batteries.
No it’s a terrible investment. If you invested that in stocks over 25 years you would have 10x the returns of solar