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He better make some cameo appearances. What he needs to do is put his light sabers away in a glass case and get himself a good woman. It's like magic for a male!
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Exactly. If no one except humans can see those ships then the technology would still be really good and useful for humans. The only type of conflict where it would be useless would be infighting in human vs human battles.
@@HippieInHeartOr they could just reverse engineer any human camera. Suddenly they have the power to turn invisible wavelengths into electricity. Incredible!
They're intention was to sell it to the Humans. They thought they had the upper hand and was going to impress the Humans demanding a high price. A weapon they could use against the humans if they didn't buy it.
@@Tube_AmericaI'd still want that tech, but I'd bluff that I don't want it unless it's discounted massively. I'd just say: We don't need it because it's useless to us, but since you're a 'friend' I'm willing to give you 'some' money for it.
No no no, what you go back to tell the higher-ups should be, "whelp, they have stealth tech that works against most species, but humans can see right through it somehow, so we could use it in an inter-species conflict but not against other humans."
@@Avigorus I mean it'll be pretty obvious. There is bound to be some human optical devices such as tablets, TVs PC, that display text would look blank to them. However once they start to examine the light they emit they can narrow our visual range radically.
@@Suzaku455don’t need to upgrade anything, they should already have sensors capable of detecting wavelengths they can’t see, same way we have telescopes capable of seeing radio waves According to the humans, the ships didn’t get any darker, meaning they are reflecting the same amount of light when “stealthed” Space battles occur at distances where eyesight is useless anyway, the reason stealth airplanes and submarines work is because they are invisible to radar, not because our eyes can’t perceive them
yeah, pretty much everyone in the story was an idiot, with no one acting like a real human, more like what an ai imagines a human to be like. it's the only hint I can find that the story might still be ai generated rather than written and read by humans
They burn hotter yes, but not longer, they burn quicker in fact, the amount of fuel is the same, if they burn hotter, they length they burn must be converse
High oxygen concentrations are not nearly as dangerous at lower pressures. In fact: Skylab had Oxygen 74%, nitrogen 26% at a pressure of 5PSI. Sea level pressure is around 15PSI.
How do you know the humans didn't? Failure to observe at the expected wavelength goes both ways, he may have been ignoring radio hails for quite some time. That would explain the feeling of being watched -- they were actively trying to open communications rather than opening fire, but it didn't work.
It's likely that by this point in human civilization, our inner solar system would be considered heavily restricted airspace. It's possible that he did the equivalent of flying directly over Area 51 in the modern day, which no one would be surprised to see him get shot down for.
And the Gibbs slap lives on! Okay, but visual observation in space is chancy, it's better to be "invisible" to radar and other sensing tech. As for visuals, paint your ship black.
Modern stealth jets already have that mostly covered. True visibility to the eye on the other hand, that’d be pretty novel. Especially for something presumably MUCH larger than a jet.
That would only work if your hypothetical xenos see in the same visible light spectrum we do. If they can see into the ultraviolet or infrared bandwidths (or worse, can natively perceive some of the EM bandwidths) just painting the ship black won't help. Remember - a sentient alien not of our earth may have some very weird (to us) abilities. That's part of the fun of these HFY stories - you can go pretty crazy with "what if" Take "Rocky" from Andy Wier's "project hail mary" my spidery Boi can HEAR like we can see. (Wier really made an effort to ensure Rocky's character was as inhuman as possible... )
I mean, technically, it is invisible to radar. Since they shortened the wavelength, they were just blue shifting everything below what I am assuming is infrared into the visible spectrum of light.
Somewhat weird ending. Seems strange that they would simply shoot at a ship without warning. Another thing that's strange is that the coalition was appearently trying to develop something to use against humans, yet they were perfectly fine with a diplomatic mission to directly show all of their new equipment? It's a bit weird, normally if someone wants to fight they'd rather keep their best and newest stuff secret so that the enemy-to-be won't be able to properly prepare for it.
Just because were there greatest threat doesn't mean were enemies. This guy is just headstrong jerk that doesn't lesson to those who have a higher IQ, and wanted to prove a point. It is also notable that we may be able to literally SEE them, but they may still be sensor blind. Which means there trying to hide for some reason, which makes them a threat, and if they knew they were being observed then they may try to escape and my even succeed if they use there bling drive. We also may have had to aim manually because of them being invisible to sensors, which means if we warned them then they could have also gone evasive and thus be very hard to hit, we would then need to send interceptors after them. They would catch up to the alien ship eventually, being that they were called slow earlier, but ain't nobody got time for that!
exactly ...thing we wouldnt do ..not to mention even if strong pyscily a fight against 90% of seint life not gonna end well for us when we are proved to be the agressor...sling a few rocks at us from space and planet is done for
@@teamidris So why wouldn't the humans just hail them by radio before blasting away. That seems way to xenophobic for a space-faring culture. And why are these diplomats? trade representatives? spies? such idiots? Were humans trying to hide their intelligence by sending morons? Interesting strategy.
@@teamidris Still weird. Like, as an example, normally when a plane enters restricted airspace they will still be contacted like "this is a military airspace, leave immediately or we will shoot" On ground there's always at least some signs posted, that informs anyone who gets close that they will be shot if they proceed any further. Like, no one just starts shooting immediately unless they're already at war.
That's an interesting thought, but the reason that (probably) only humans can see pink is because it doesn't exist in the real world. Pink is the colour our brains show us when we see a mix of two other colours that do exist, because of a quirk in how our eyes work. So other species might just see those two colours separately, or only one of them, or neither of them, depending on the wavelengths they could detect. And don't forget that even if they can't see a particular wavelength of light bouncing off something, they still probably won't be able to see through it, so the object will just look black to them.
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@@Nezuji Magenta (red + blue). Pink is only toned down red. Or not balanced white.
I had read a HFY story where humanity helps a species at war and they learn the species they’re helping sees via thermal vision. Their opponents developed stealth that makes them invisible to thermal vision but it made them appear bright pink through a human’s vision.
Nobody else in the galaxy invented night vision goggles? They have radio, they have lasers, they obviously have a grasp of the EM spectrum... but it never occurred to them that merely band shifting the image changes the hardware that detects it best, but it _doesn't_ render it invisible? I find it very difficult that _every other civilization_ would refrain from observing in as many bands as they possibly can. If we can afford to do so right now (and we can and do, to a limited extent), then it's highly unlikely that _none_ of the other spacefaring civilizations have thought of it. I think it's more likely that the stealth has failed before, but the other species was smart enough to pretend it was working. 🤔
I'd like to think we wouldn't have fired on the infiltrators ship. Just show up and say hi, we see you. After "decloaking" with the tech they showed us before. haha
As others have pointed out: This story is very poorly written in many regards. The ending being the worst offender. Compared to that the 3 diplomat stooges did a pretty good job.
They didn't convey plot points super clearly. The weapons test showed their offensive expectations were much lower than ours. What we might have meant to be "warning shots" could have gone too far. That's a generous guess, though.
Ok, I'm astounded that no one got how amazing this stealth technology is. They were able to shorten the wavelenght of the light that was emited by their ships, so that only photons with wavelenght on 430 nm (probably) or shorter could be emmitted. This makes the ships invisible to radar and radio sensor arrays. Infrared should also be ineffective, infact at this point the ships only reflect blue, violet and ultraviolet light, as well as x-ray and gamma radiation. But seeing as x ray and gamma pass through most materials, it would be really hard to detect the ship. To the humans it should have looked heavily blue shifted. The fact that they were able to change the wavelenght of light at all is amazing. They really slept on a great technology here and if the stealth tech could be improved to only emit wavelenth below 380 nm, it would be invisible to the human eye as well, as it would then only emmit ultraviolet light or x-ray and gamma, both of which are hard to detect.
So there are a lot of planets out there with 40% or more oxygen in their atmospheres? Earth only has 20% because plants converted what used to be about 20% CO2 into oxygen, leaving very little CO2 (0.04% - Plants are very efficient at removing CO2 from the atmosphere) How did those planets get so much 02? And "Xenomorph" just means "Alien shaped life form" - The Aliens Franchise twisted its meaning, which means the Aliens movies are in this universe?
Earth has less CO2 now because of the carbon cycle but there was a time when we had little O2 to speak of. During that time we had much higher concentrations of oxygen, a huge explosion of flora and fauna came from the time plants had an all you can eat buffet. That's why we had megafauna, giant insects like the one depicted and massive plant life eating their full. When things stabalized to the point they are now that all died off. Dinosaurs would probably suffocate in our comparatively thin atmosphere, they would need much more O2 even with massive lungs. Fun fact that was before mushrooms existed to eat all the dead plant matter, that's where coal comes from. Massive layers of dead plant life that wasn't able to be broken down before turning into said coal. If we had the o2 levels of the past now we'd be superhuman and probably high but we'd live much easier to have too much than too little. Another fun fact is one of the big reasons the earth cooled in the first place was because of the plants eating all the CO2, we're technically in an "ice age" it's just normal for us.
The stealth isn't a bust. It may not work on humans but seems to work on everyone else and their technology you know they people you are likely going to have/want to use it against. And as a bonus whike invisible to the enemy you are completely visible to your own side making coordination and identification and avoidance in combat easy.
Eh... even as a human, I don't think a shot from the dark against an unknown stealth object would happen. 20 ships coming in hot, comms immediately flooded in all galactic languages "We see you! Power down immediately and surrender or we will open fire!" more likely. Ship confiscated, guy imprisoned and interrogated for a couple years.. stern letter to the home planet that humans are verrrry upset at attempted stealth incursion.... etc
It's kinda amazing that on earth there's a creature that actually might have this kind of situation, should they evolve to be intelligent enough. Mantis shrimps can see ultraviolet and polarised light, aspects of light that we humans cannot see.
so what? that's still pretty pointless for stealth on a spaceship. if they'd made this story about body armor instead of spaceships it would have been much less dumb.
Stealth and low observational aren't the same thing stealth is harder to pickup on electronic sensors low observational is like camouflage or things that make an object harder to see.diplomats like those 3stooges are unbelievable
@@BlitzFromBehind I don't know if that's true, maybe colloquially the same? Like those that use magazine or clip (which dos irk me but maybe only because I think striper clips are kinda neat... and some times frustrating).
12:30 "... she'd study them all day." Yup, I can empathize! Reminded me of an old Performance Report of a certain female Marines officer, "her men would follow her anywhere... out of curiosity."
Yes probably military forced into a diplomatic role. They will get better with practice and some proper training. Though I for one hope they never change!
to be fair, in space, making a ship less visible is almost pointless as you won't be looking out the window to see other ships most of the time. you'll rely on sensors and it sounds like their "stealth" is only visible light. so what about magnetic, electrical, radar, gravity, and all the other ways we might detect them?
So... Here's the thing about stealth tech: It renders the hull of the ship invisible. But the hull is still there, and it isn't going to protect things not actually part of the hull. So the way to combat stealth ships is to make a minefield that, when touched, creates an aerosolized paint cloud that will adhere to the hull of any passing ship.
It also helps and proves to the TH-cam bots that channels like his arent just 100% a.i generated, theres a real meatbag human being writing a script and uploading the videos, they just use a.i generated art.
Stealth technology rarely focuses on making an object visually invisible, but rather invisible to technological detection. Given how small a spaceship is in comparison to a solar system, the chances of someone seeing it out of a window are infinitesimally small. Being detected by radar or other more advanced sensing methods, though is a major concern
The inertial dampereners might be more useful than they appear. The limiting factor for high-speed maneuvers since the mid-20th century has been how much g-forces the pilot can handle before blacking out or dying. The alien pilots from low-G worlds doubtlessly had less natural resilience to high-acceleration than a human. Earth had 4.5× the gravity they were used to. Imagine incorporating that tech into a human craft allowing for acceleration and maneuvers that would otherwise kill the pilot. I thought the alien was being allowed to go so far in because they didn't appear to be hostile or covert. I was waiting for them to casually hail him to request his purpose for visiting.
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I was sitting there going "Why did you have to mention Alien. Wait, stop telling her about the movie! You're still telling her about the movie. .....Fine, just show her the movie and get it out of your system."
So they made an objectively bad stealth ship? And yes, it is _objectively_ bad, because it’s still giving off massive amounts of light, just because their eyes can’t see it doesn’t mean they can’t have sensors that can detect it
soooo yeah, not the best writing, but i love the Ailen antonymy and its a inspiring idea the "holy S they came form such a harsh plannent, and can see stuff no one else can?" But the glaring thing there is, that they can bee seen by humans is not a human problem, thats a problem for everyone else. There reactions dont really match what such a meeting would be, but it is at least a intresting attempt
The visit probs would have been smoother if the council in charge of Terra didn't send Larry, Moe and Curly in the place of a diplomatic team of experts
A lot of people here have a problem with the behavior of the characters. My problem with this story is how silly the basic concept was. Space stealth isn't about fooling eyes, it's about fooling machines. If the only thing that stops someone from sneaking past Saturn is Jimmy "Two-eyes" Mcgee staring out a window that's pretty stupid. Spacecraft would be detected passively by their exhaust trails, heat signatures and EM emissions or gravitational disturbances. They would be detected actively with radar, laser sweeps or other methods. Any stealth system made to fool eyes by adjusting the wavelengths of light could be defeated by a camera tuned to different wavelengths and even that would be pointless in space where a ship could just be painted black to achieve the same pointlesd effect.
If we're their greatest threat, which was proved by straight up murdering them without warning, I suppose the entire unprofessional shoddiness of the meeting and reasons to show us their newest tech can be explained by it being a black market dealing. Plus stealth ships that only your species can see are probably the best stealth ships you could have. Chad did good though.
We may or may not be of the same mind, depending on what you mean by "dinner". Namely what or WHO is on the menu. She seems more curious than peckish so it should be fine... Diplomacy, am I right? The Peter Quill way!
@@zacharyr666 I mean... Bardish... she seems like a shy nervous scientist... and a giant mantis lobster... yeah, imma crank that charm up to 11. talk nerd stuff, learn about her peoples... learn her about ours... giant mantis lobster nerd gf ahoy. Harkness is life.
ah yes, stealth that just changes the spectrum of light. dont we currently have telescopes that can see red shifted light waves from the expanding universe
@@jamesphillips2285 we currently have telescopes that can see different spectrums of light, i dont think this counts as functional stealth tech But reading more of these hfy stories they seem quite unimaginative.
for some reason the situation made me think of things like cloaked units in SC2, where you can see them at all times if they are on your team, in which case they are on the human's side but not Ni'rra's
Im in the army. I could still see us using stealth tech if it only worked against our enemies. Hell, it would make it easy to coordinate an attack. To be the only people capable of seeing themselves and denying a visual for the enemy. I wouldn't call it a bust.
Science fiction written by people who don't know science, is always a bit strange. If the light an object emits or somehow converted into a wavelength that their eyes could not detect, there are still many machines that would detect it.
Just a minor note for whoever does your captions: If ever you're tempted to use " 's" (apostrophe s) to form a plural, then you're almost certainly WRONG :-) Hence, it's "irises", not "iris's''; and "abdomens", not "abdomen's". There are situations where " 's" is acceptable, such as making the plural of the letter A: "A's" is ok since "As" might he confusing.
these stories are fun to hear as there are not much that covers humans as strong and fearful creatures, only about humans struggle against aliens bigger and better at everything but have one flaw the humans dont have and that factor saves the humans that story line is done so much in alien vs humans stories.
Who cares if you can see it with your eyes. You're not going to be eyeing ships in space that easily anyways. If it's not on sensors, it's effective stealth even if not perfect.
When you try to make sense of science fiction , your doing an dumb exercise... Take all those spacebattles ever calculated what would happen if a ship near lighspeed let alone going faster would be capable of just slamming in the world that is defending itself? Hint with those speeds any world would experience something worse then the dino's experienced that rock only slammed down going max 40.000Mph... Now take a ship 100 times lighter but going 10000 times faster...
Hmm... a little hard to accept the logic of this story. Any spacefaring species wouldn't solely rely on the visual spectrum for detection -- any scifi sensor suite should logically have a mix of detection methods, as there are threats out in space which either can't be seen, can't be seen easily, or by the time you see them it's already WAY too late. Having this sort of stealth tech applied at an infantry or small vehicle level would be a lot more reasonable, but when dealing with interstellar volumes light is hardly the most reliable indicator.
Wouldn’t you want stealth that works against any sensor. Not just the naked eyes of various species? It’s not going to matter that your ship has stealth against certain wavelength sensors if it is extremely visible with others.
The big problem with this story is, uf human eyes can see it, anyone can make a camera to easily see it. We can digitally see stuff far outside our normal range of vision
Nice story, but a bit contrived. It sounded like the humans went to the insects to purchase technology. But that general says they're the greatest threat. If they created something they believed effective against this threat, why give up the advantage? On the other hand, even if that general infiltrated the Sol system, why didn't the humans at least see what he wanted before killing him?
Any stealth device needs to cover far more than visible light since it is rather easy to make sensors that are sensitive to other wavelengths. Even if they had made a stealth that humans could not see it would not stop a ship from seeing it.
Also, no spacefaring civilization is going to rely on one narrow band of the spectrum to make all of their observations. It is difficult to form images from gamma rays, and on the other end the best you can do is fuzzy blobs, which is why an Earth-sized radio telescope still has difficulty imaging the black hole at the center of our own galaxy. Yet we still find a lot of information there, so we bother looking. Perhaps not _everyone_ else will, but it's almost certainly going to be a non-zero number. I think there's at least one other civilization out there that can see the ships just fine. They're just better liars than the yokels we sent.
this makes no sense at all. a stealth ship visible to the human visual spectrum would also be visible to any advanced sensor capable of detecting in that range, which I would assume any on a ship in space would. kind of like how we have x-ray telescopes, even though we can't see x-rays. that's pretty handy on a spaceship, and I'm sure we (and aliens) would have scanners for all spectrums of energy
Wouldn't be the best stealth having a super-reflective surface anyways? Like, in space you would (unless thrusters visible) look like a strange deformation of the stars and space to the eye...
As some of you already know, our usual narrator has moved on due to his real life schedule changing. Moving foward, we will cycle through a selection of awesome narrators each video to mix it up and keep things exciting! What do you think of Chad's narration for this story?
He better make some cameo appearances. What he needs to do is put his light sabers away in a glass case and get himself a good woman. It's like magic for a male!
Pretty bad. But so is the story folks.
He needs to learn The Grandmother Song by Steve Martin, and follow all of Grandma's sage advice.
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Stealth that works against others is useful even if it doesn't work against you.
It’s arguably the best stealth tech we could wish for.
Exactly. If no one except humans can see those ships then the technology would still be really good and useful for humans. The only type of conflict where it would be useless would be infighting in human vs human battles.
@@HippieInHeartOr they could just reverse engineer any human camera. Suddenly they have the power to turn invisible wavelengths into electricity. Incredible!
They're intention was to sell it to the Humans. They thought they had the upper hand and was going to impress the Humans demanding a high price. A weapon they could use against the humans if they didn't buy it.
@@Tube_AmericaI'd still want that tech, but I'd bluff that I don't want it unless it's discounted massively.
I'd just say: We don't need it because it's useless to us, but since you're a 'friend' I'm willing to give you 'some' money for it.
No no no, what you go back to tell the higher-ups should be, "whelp, they have stealth tech that works against most species, but humans can see right through it somehow, so we could use it in an inter-species conflict but not against other humans."
except once aliens start learn how human eyes see they'll start upgrading sensors.
@@Suzaku455 Touche, albeit they may need to get a chance to study humans & human optical recording tech to figure that out lol
@@Avigorus I mean it'll be pretty obvious. There is bound to be some human optical devices such as tablets, TVs PC, that display text would look blank to them. However once they start to examine the light they emit they can narrow our visual range radically.
@@Suzaku455don’t need to upgrade anything, they should already have sensors capable of detecting wavelengths they can’t see, same way we have telescopes capable of seeing radio waves
According to the humans, the ships didn’t get any darker, meaning they are reflecting the same amount of light when “stealthed”
Space battles occur at distances where eyesight is useless anyway, the reason stealth airplanes and submarines work is because they are invisible to radar, not because our eyes can’t perceive them
But if no other species can see the stealth ship wouldn’t that be useful to the humans?
Extremely important and very useful
Yes but not very effective against ourselves though
Not if they're intending to use it against humans
@lucykitsune4619 we are humans of course we are going to use it on other humans
yeah, pretty much everyone in the story was an idiot, with no one acting like a real human, more like what an ai imagines a human to be like. it's the only hint I can find that the story might still be ai generated rather than written and read by humans
Story makes me think of if the 3 stooges became diplomats.
It make me think about the emperor's new clothes.
Exactly what I thought 😂
@@Englishwithteacher-wj3ct Ditto!
You can always tell when the writers watch too much anime 🤣
I made almost the same exact comment above, before scrolling down and reading others. 🤣
You know what you get when you have double the oxygen? Fires that burn hotter and longer.
They burn hotter yes, but not longer, they burn quicker in fact, the amount of fuel is the same, if they burn hotter, they length they burn must be converse
@@jasonswalwell3324yes, but they are also easier to start, even with the same amount of fuel, ore oxygen means less of a spark is needed to ignite
I have spotted the Terrans
Better not try open metal casting 😅😅
High oxygen concentrations are not nearly as dangerous at lower pressures.
In fact: Skylab had Oxygen 74%, nitrogen 26% at a pressure of 5PSI. Sea level pressure is around 15PSI.
Shouldn't the humans have ATTEMPTED a warning? "Leave our system or die." Like, I get we're space orcs... but we have rules of engagement.
How do you know the humans didn't? Failure to observe at the expected wavelength goes both ways, he may have been ignoring radio hails for quite some time. That would explain the feeling of being watched -- they were actively trying to open communications rather than opening fire, but it didn't work.
It's likely that by this point in human civilization, our inner solar system would be considered heavily restricted airspace. It's possible that he did the equivalent of flying directly over Area 51 in the modern day, which no one would be surprised to see him get shot down for.
@@mal2ksc brother the story is not that deep, stealh for ships is fooling censors, not eyes.
They are called human right for a reason
"So I started blasting"
“We see you” is a cold line imagine if your in the woods and you hear that
Walter and Jeremy shouldn't be in the diplomatic team.
But there the comic relief! Plus there tomfoolery may be endearing to the aliens, or disarming at the very least.
General Mayhem, Major Disorder
The “f*ck it’s a xenomorph” had me dieing
Bar of fur got me laughing so hard. Best description of a mustace I have ever heard ^^
Most undiplomatic diplomats ever.
And the Gibbs slap lives on!
Okay, but visual observation in space is chancy, it's better to be "invisible" to radar and other sensing tech. As for visuals, paint your ship black.
Modern stealth jets already have that mostly covered. True visibility to the eye on the other hand, that’d be pretty novel. Especially for something presumably MUCH larger than a jet.
@@NoNo-xh7ru True, but given how BIG space is...
That would only work if your hypothetical xenos see in the same visible light spectrum we do.
If they can see into the ultraviolet or infrared bandwidths (or worse, can natively perceive some of the EM bandwidths) just painting the ship black won't help.
Remember - a sentient alien not of our earth may have some very weird (to us) abilities.
That's part of the fun of these HFY stories - you can go pretty crazy with "what if"
Take "Rocky" from Andy Wier's "project hail mary" my spidery Boi can HEAR like we can see. (Wier really made an effort to ensure Rocky's character was as inhuman as possible... )
@stinkyfungus Even among the species on our own planet theres a near endless supply of weird abilities to take inspiration from
I mean, technically, it is invisible to radar. Since they shortened the wavelength, they were just blue shifting everything below what I am assuming is infrared into the visible spectrum of light.
Somewhat weird ending. Seems strange that they would simply shoot at a ship without warning. Another thing that's strange is that the coalition was appearently trying to develop something to use against humans, yet they were perfectly fine with a diplomatic mission to directly show all of their new equipment? It's a bit weird, normally if someone wants to fight they'd rather keep their best and newest stuff secret so that the enemy-to-be won't be able to properly prepare for it.
Just because were there greatest threat doesn't mean were enemies. This guy is just headstrong jerk that doesn't lesson to those who have a higher IQ, and wanted to prove a point. It is also notable that we may be able to literally SEE them, but they may still be sensor blind. Which means there trying to hide for some reason, which makes them a threat, and if they knew they were being observed then they may try to escape and my even succeed if they use there bling drive. We also may have had to aim manually because of them being invisible to sensors, which means if we warned them then they could have also gone evasive and thus be very hard to hit, we would then need to send interceptors after them. They would catch up to the alien ship eventually, being that they were called slow earlier, but ain't nobody got time for that!
exactly ...thing we wouldnt do ..not to mention even if strong pyscily a fight against 90% of seint life not gonna end well for us when we are proved to be the agressor...sling a few rocks at us from space and planet is done for
No radio contact before entering the system.
@@teamidris
So why wouldn't the humans just hail them by radio before blasting away. That seems way to xenophobic for a space-faring culture. And why are these diplomats? trade representatives? spies? such idiots? Were humans trying to hide their intelligence by sending morons? Interesting strategy.
@@teamidris Still weird. Like, as an example, normally when a plane enters restricted airspace they will still be contacted like "this is a military airspace, leave immediately or we will shoot"
On ground there's always at least some signs posted, that informs anyone who gets close that they will be shot if they proceed any further. Like, no one just starts shooting immediately unless they're already at war.
I honestly thought it would be the story about pink and how only humans can see pink😊
But this was a welcome surprise
I thought the same thing
you mean magenta? Megenta is a color with no wavelength, it's a complete fabrication by our brains or something like that, IIRC.
That's an interesting thought, but the reason that (probably) only humans can see pink is because it doesn't exist in the real world. Pink is the colour our brains show us when we see a mix of two other colours that do exist, because of a quirk in how our eyes work. So other species might just see those two colours separately, or only one of them, or neither of them, depending on the wavelengths they could detect. And don't forget that even if they can't see a particular wavelength of light bouncing off something, they still probably won't be able to see through it, so the object will just look black to them.
@@Nezuji Magenta (red + blue). Pink is only toned down red. Or not balanced white.
I had read a HFY story where humanity helps a species at war and they learn the species they’re helping sees via thermal vision. Their opponents developed stealth that makes them invisible to thermal vision but it made them appear bright pink through a human’s vision.
>These people are the greatest threat to our galactic community
>Let's give them our latest and greatest tech
Yeah that kind of ruined it for me.
Hey but don'tcha know, ai is the future!
Just look at these riveting tales they keep churning out of the slop factory!
Funny. Although would be better tactically for you to let your opponent think that you can't see them and return home with that information.
Nobody else in the galaxy invented night vision goggles? They have radio, they have lasers, they obviously have a grasp of the EM spectrum... but it never occurred to them that merely band shifting the image changes the hardware that detects it best, but it _doesn't_ render it invisible? I find it very difficult that _every other civilization_ would refrain from observing in as many bands as they possibly can. If we can afford to do so right now (and we can and do, to a limited extent), then it's highly unlikely that _none_ of the other spacefaring civilizations have thought of it.
I think it's more likely that the stealth has failed before, but the other species was smart enough to pretend it was working. 🤔
this is especially dumb when we have already covered most of the electromagnetic spectrum with various kinds of sensors in lower tech ways...
A stealth system that makes you invisible to aliens but not to humans is actually super useful
I'd like to think we wouldn't have fired on the infiltrators ship. Just show up and say hi, we see you. After "decloaking" with the tech they showed us before. haha
As others have pointed out: This story is very poorly written in many regards. The ending being the worst offender. Compared to that the 3 diplomat stooges did a pretty good job.
They didn't convey plot points super clearly. The weapons test showed their offensive expectations were much lower than ours. What we might have meant to be "warning shots" could have gone too far. That's a generous guess, though.
Ok, I'm astounded that no one got how amazing this stealth technology is. They were able to shorten the wavelenght of the light that was emited by their ships, so that only photons with wavelenght on 430 nm (probably) or shorter could be emmitted. This makes the ships invisible to radar and radio sensor arrays. Infrared should also be ineffective, infact at this point the ships only reflect blue, violet and ultraviolet light, as well as x-ray and gamma radiation. But seeing as x ray and gamma pass through most materials, it would be really hard to detect the ship.
To the humans it should have looked heavily blue shifted. The fact that they were able to change the wavelenght of light at all is amazing. They really slept on a great technology here and if the stealth tech could be improved to only emit wavelenth below 380 nm, it would be invisible to the human eye as well, as it would then only emmit ultraviolet light or x-ray and gamma, both of which are hard to detect.
So there are a lot of planets out there with 40% or more oxygen in their atmospheres? Earth only has 20% because plants converted what used to be about 20% CO2 into oxygen, leaving very little CO2 (0.04% - Plants are very efficient at removing CO2 from the atmosphere) How did those planets get so much 02?
And "Xenomorph" just means "Alien shaped life form" - The Aliens Franchise twisted its meaning, which means the Aliens movies are in this universe?
Alien movies are in this universe. The guy being afraid of facehuggers is hilarious instead of the full grown xenomorph like alien in front of him.
With 40% oxygen in air i would be very afraid of fires.
@@viljosavolainen2286 bro I would be worried when I would catch fire and combust spontaneously not if.
Earth has less CO2 now because of the carbon cycle but there was a time when we had little O2 to speak of. During that time we had much higher concentrations of oxygen, a huge explosion of flora and fauna came from the time plants had an all you can eat buffet. That's why we had megafauna, giant insects like the one depicted and massive plant life eating their full. When things stabalized to the point they are now that all died off. Dinosaurs would probably suffocate in our comparatively thin atmosphere, they would need much more O2 even with massive lungs. Fun fact that was before mushrooms existed to eat all the dead plant matter, that's where coal comes from. Massive layers of dead plant life that wasn't able to be broken down before turning into said coal. If we had the o2 levels of the past now we'd be superhuman and probably high but we'd live much easier to have too much than too little. Another fun fact is one of the big reasons the earth cooled in the first place was because of the plants eating all the CO2, we're technically in an "ice age" it's just normal for us.
@@omerkursadnarinoglu3818 you wont combust even with pure oxygen air. You will be dead way before you are dry enough for that to happen.
The stealth isn't a bust. It may not work on humans but seems to work on everyone else and their technology you know they people you are likely going to have/want to use it against. And as a bonus whike invisible to the enemy you are completely visible to your own side making coordination and identification and avoidance in combat easy.
Eh... even as a human, I don't think a shot from the dark against an unknown stealth object would happen. 20 ships coming in hot, comms immediately flooded in all galactic languages "We see you! Power down immediately and surrender or we will open fire!" more likely. Ship confiscated, guy imprisoned and interrogated for a couple years.. stern letter to the home planet that humans are verrrry upset at attempted stealth incursion.... etc
“Fu*k it’s an Xeno!!!”
I love the alien references
It's kinda amazing that on earth there's a creature that actually might have this kind of situation, should they evolve to be intelligent enough.
Mantis shrimps can see ultraviolet and polarised light, aspects of light that we humans cannot see.
so what? that's still pretty pointless for stealth on a spaceship.
if they'd made this story about body armor instead of spaceships it would have been much less dumb.
Poor Ni'rra, she worked so hard, but everyone keeps mocking her :(
Stealth and low observational aren't the same thing stealth is harder to pickup on electronic sensors low observational is like camouflage or things that make an object harder to see.diplomats like those 3stooges are unbelievable
They are a synonym. Putting on something as simple as facepaint (camo) falls under the category of stealth.
@@BlitzFromBehind I don't know if that's true, maybe colloquially the same? Like those that use magazine or clip (which dos irk me but maybe only because I think striper clips are kinda neat... and some times frustrating).
12:30 "... she'd study them all day." Yup, I can empathize! Reminded me of an old Performance Report of a certain female Marines officer, "her men would follow her anywhere... out of curiosity."
I love these death world concepts.... as I'm relaxing on the beach sipping fruity drinks half dressed.
Chad! Nice story! As a vet, I get the military camrottery. This unit are obviously family... and would carry that last message home, if it needs to. ❤
Yes probably military forced into a diplomatic role. They will get better with practice and some proper training. Though I for one hope they never change!
Camaraderie
to be fair, in space, making a ship less visible is almost pointless as you won't be looking out the window to see other ships most of the time. you'll rely on sensors and it sounds like their "stealth" is only visible light. so what about magnetic, electrical, radar, gravity, and all the other ways we might detect them?
I am always happy to see a human face behind the narrations. And an American at that.
ROE ROE ROE Your boat, aggressively down the stream...
Wow! A real human narrator😮 This is amazing
I like the idea of aliens being accustomed to low-g. Show an alien a 9g turn in a fighter jet!
So... Here's the thing about stealth tech: It renders the hull of the ship invisible. But the hull is still there, and it isn't going to protect things not actually part of the hull.
So the way to combat stealth ships is to make a minefield that, when touched, creates an aerosolized paint cloud that will adhere to the hull of any passing ship.
imagine having those 3 guys as our ambassadors one hitting the other and showing no respect for the alien lady.
Love actual people doing the reading
It also helps and proves to the TH-cam bots that channels like his arent just 100% a.i generated, theres a real meatbag human being writing a script and uploading the videos, they just use a.i generated art.
"Galactic Council, this is sol defense do you have a ship in our system?"
"Sol defense no we do not"
"Agreed Council you have no ships in Sol"
"I see ya!"
*Shoots*
*Dying scream*
"I don wanna play Heavy anymore~..."
So basically, in this universe most species in the galaxy can't see purple. OK
It happens. Deer can't see the color red.
Damn.. that sounded like a whole session of diplomatic disaster
Man poor Ni'rra she deserved better 😭
Stealth technology rarely focuses on making an object visually invisible, but rather invisible to technological detection. Given how small a spaceship is in comparison to a solar system, the chances of someone seeing it out of a window are infinitesimally small. Being detected by radar or other more advanced sensing methods, though is a major concern
Fun story, great narration. I hope Ni'rra got her job back.
I loved the "Larry, Moe and Curly" humans!
The inertial dampereners might be more useful than they appear. The limiting factor for high-speed maneuvers since the mid-20th century has been how much g-forces the pilot can handle before blacking out or dying. The alien pilots from low-G worlds doubtlessly had less natural resilience to high-acceleration than a human. Earth had 4.5× the gravity they were used to.
Imagine incorporating that tech into a human craft allowing for acceleration and maneuvers that would otherwise kill the pilot.
I thought the alien was being allowed to go so far in because they didn't appear to be hostile or covert. I was waiting for them to casually hail him to request his purpose for visiting.
I imagine making something only partially visible would confuse some mechanical methods of tracking
While this tech could still be used against the Xeno's, the problem is that a humans preferred enemy is always other humans.
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450 nm light is blue, so i initially thought they were gonna make a comment like "invisible? You just painted it blue 😐"
I was sitting there going "Why did you have to mention Alien. Wait, stop telling her about the movie! You're still telling her about the movie. .....Fine, just show her the movie and get it out of your system."
so instead of just targeting his ship and saying stop humans start a war with 90% the galaxy and get wiped out by simple astriod slings ooopse
Ok switching narrators?? Let me count the conspiracies. Lmao. Good read brother!!!
As a big fan of BattleBots, I understand his frustration!
Whys the narrator different you did a fine job but where's the other guy, I loved his energy
Pinned comment says he had some real life schedule changes so can't do narrations for them anymore
So they made an objectively bad stealth ship?
And yes, it is _objectively_ bad, because it’s still giving off massive amounts of light, just because their eyes can’t see it doesn’t mean they can’t have sensors that can detect it
soooo yeah, not the best writing, but i love the Ailen antonymy and its a inspiring idea the "holy S they came form such a harsh plannent, and can see stuff no one else can?"
But the glaring thing there is, that they can bee seen by humans is not a human problem, thats a problem for everyone else.
There reactions dont really match what such a meeting would be, but it is at least a intresting attempt
The visit probs would have been smoother if the council in charge of Terra didn't send Larry, Moe and Curly in the place of a diplomatic team of experts
Today I learned "Xenomorph" is a slur, the intergalactic X-word.
A lot of people here have a problem with the behavior of the characters.
My problem with this story is how silly the basic concept was. Space stealth isn't about fooling eyes, it's about fooling machines.
If the only thing that stops someone from sneaking past Saturn is Jimmy "Two-eyes" Mcgee staring out a window that's pretty stupid.
Spacecraft would be detected passively by their exhaust trails, heat signatures and EM emissions or gravitational disturbances.
They would be detected actively with radar, laser sweeps or other methods.
Any stealth system made to fool eyes by adjusting the wavelengths of light could be defeated by a camera tuned to different wavelengths and even that would be pointless in space where a ship could just be painted black to achieve the same pointlesd effect.
If we're their greatest threat, which was proved by straight up murdering them without warning, I suppose the entire unprofessional shoddiness of the meeting and reasons to show us their newest tech can be explained by it being a black market dealing. Plus stealth ships that only your species can see are probably the best stealth ships you could have. Chad did good though.
the ship is cool, I guess, but I'd be more concerned about what she's doing for dinner.
We may or may not be of the same mind, depending on what you mean by "dinner". Namely what or WHO is on the menu. She seems more curious than peckish so it should be fine... Diplomacy, am I right? The Peter Quill way!
@@zacharyr666 I mean... Bardish...
she seems like a shy nervous scientist...
and a giant mantis lobster...
yeah, imma crank that charm up to 11.
talk nerd stuff, learn about her peoples...
learn her about ours...
giant mantis lobster nerd gf ahoy.
Harkness is life.
"dilated to pinpoints" lost me.
Argh, I cannot believe I missed that one!
ah yes, stealth that just changes the spectrum of light.
dont we currently have telescopes that can see red shifted light waves from the expanding universe
I think the stealth tech was supposed to be blue-shifting. Most the aliens apparently see in far infrared.
@@jamesphillips2285
we currently have telescopes that can see different spectrums of light, i dont think this counts as functional stealth tech
But reading more of these hfy stories they seem quite unimaginative.
for some reason the situation made me think of things like cloaked units in SC2, where you can see them at all times if they are on your team, in which case they are on the human's side but not Ni'rra's
Im in the army. I could still see us using stealth tech if it only worked against our enemies. Hell, it would make it easy to coordinate an attack. To be the only people capable of seeing themselves and denying a visual for the enemy. I wouldn't call it a bust.
Good voice. Easy to understand and listen to.
So they are blind to violet colours? Time to paint our ships!
Really like the POV of the story! So fun!
Well, Ni'rra was right that the humans didn't go insane before her eyes... It's something we do on our own early in our life after all.
Larry, Curly, and Moe go to space.
Great tale! Thanks!
Science fiction written by people who don't know science, is always a bit strange.
If the light an object emits or somehow converted into a wavelength that their eyes could not detect, there are still many machines that would detect it.
Just a minor note for whoever does your captions: If ever you're tempted to use " 's" (apostrophe s) to form a plural, then you're almost certainly WRONG :-) Hence, it's "irises", not "iris's''; and "abdomens", not "abdomen's". There are situations where " 's" is acceptable, such as making the plural of the letter A: "A's" is ok since "As" might he confusing.
these stories are fun to hear as there are not much that covers humans as strong and fearful creatures, only about humans struggle against aliens bigger and better at everything but have one flaw the humans dont have and that factor saves the humans that story line is done so much in alien vs humans stories.
Who cares if you can see it with your eyes. You're not going to be eyeing ships in space that easily anyways. If it's not on sensors, it's effective stealth even if not perfect.
This whole thing makes no sense. In space, when you are close enough to see something with your eyes, it's WAY too late.
When you try to make sense of science fiction , your doing an dumb exercise... Take all those spacebattles ever calculated what would happen if a ship near lighspeed let alone going faster would be capable of just slamming in the world that is defending itself? Hint with those speeds any world would experience something worse then the dino's experienced that rock only slammed down going max 40.000Mph... Now take a ship 100 times lighter but going 10000 times faster...
@@randar1969 That's what sets apart science fiction from science fantasy
Hmm... a little hard to accept the logic of this story. Any spacefaring species wouldn't solely rely on the visual spectrum for detection -- any scifi sensor suite should logically have a mix of detection methods, as there are threats out in space which either can't be seen, can't be seen easily, or by the time you see them it's already WAY too late. Having this sort of stealth tech applied at an infantry or small vehicle level would be a lot more reasonable, but when dealing with interstellar volumes light is hardly the most reliable indicator.
Wouldn’t you want stealth that works against any sensor. Not just the naked eyes of various species? It’s not going to matter that your ship has stealth against certain wavelength sensors if it is extremely visible with others.
I'd love if we did live on a level #13 death world! Maybe aliens would not be such a threat.
Makes me embarrassed to be human.
The big problem with this story is, uf human eyes can see it, anyone can make a camera to easily see it. We can digitally see stuff far outside our normal range of vision
The intro scared me. I thought the whole vid would have that echo! Like the new authors voice. Changing it up helps a lot.
So the stealth tech works kinda like the one in Mass Effect:
No visual difference, but completely off the radar.
3:40 dilating to pinpoints? Dilate means they get bigger.
That ending makes no sense. Why destroy the ship with no warning? Better to do the whole, "We see you" line and leave them guessing HOW?
Nice story, but a bit contrived. It sounded like the humans went to the insects to purchase technology. But that general says they're the greatest threat. If they created something they believed effective against this threat, why give up the advantage? On the other hand, even if that general infiltrated the Sol system, why didn't the humans at least see what he wanted before killing him?
Any stealth device needs to cover far more than visible light since it is rather easy to make sensors that are sensitive to other wavelengths. Even if they had made a stealth that humans could not see it would not stop a ship from seeing it.
Also, no spacefaring civilization is going to rely on one narrow band of the spectrum to make all of their observations. It is difficult to form images from gamma rays, and on the other end the best you can do is fuzzy blobs, which is why an Earth-sized radio telescope still has difficulty imaging the black hole at the center of our own galaxy. Yet we still find a lot of information there, so we bother looking. Perhaps not _everyone_ else will, but it's almost certainly going to be a non-zero number.
I think there's at least one other civilization out there that can see the ships just fine. They're just better liars than the yokels we sent.
Diplomacy is as alien as the xenomorphs
this makes no sense at all. a stealth ship visible to the human visual spectrum would also be visible to any advanced sensor capable of detecting in that range, which I would assume any on a ship in space would. kind of like how we have x-ray telescopes, even though we can't see x-rays. that's pretty handy on a spaceship, and I'm sure we (and aliens) would have scanners for all spectrums of energy
Diplomatic ship? More like a yokel preservation space reserve.
Wouldn't be the best stealth having a super-reflective surface anyways?
Like, in space you would (unless thrusters visible) look like a strange deformation of the stars and space to the eye...
Maybe I can use channels like this to see if my ideas and lore are good, and refine them before taking the commitment to write a novel
god some of the ai art fails on these are kinda funnny
good narration.. ty
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Id imagine an alien insect designed space suit would be very different from anything we can imagine
I wish the pictures matched the descriptions more
Those guys weren't diplomats with how rude they behave
Probably military forced into a diplomatic role. They will get better with practice and some proper training.