Phase 4 DPS Rankings and Balancing Updates | Season of Discovery

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  • We just received some more class balancing updates and world buffs on the SOD Phase 4 PTR. Let's take a look at the current DPS rankings and these new updates.
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  • @JFarenci
    @JFarenci 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That isn't Melee Hunter at the top. That's Ranged Survival hunter getting Trueshot Aura from a party member.

  • @alexp2689
    @alexp2689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Melee classes need weapons. On the PTR we’re using lvl 50 equivalent weapons. Essentially every melee is missing 20% damage atm except rogues bc their abilities do not scale as well with their weapon dps.

    • @Abionx
      @Abionx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also doesint matter much for ferals since the weapons are stat sticks only (i mean atm the bis weapon ferals have is the stv wep at 50 and the next bis is sulfuras when at 60 unless they make a new wep with better stats and more atk power at 60)

  • @mrpotatohead321
    @mrpotatohead321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So a 70% nerf to demonic knowledge is “a little bit of a nerf” but a 20% buff to felguard is a “big boost”?

  • @Farmer_Farms
    @Farmer_Farms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Frost Mage needs to have a talent which makes Balefire bolt apply a chill effect. and brain freeze needs to give the free spell a 10-20% damage increase to make it viable

  • @Redpilledclarity
    @Redpilledclarity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Warriors scale incredibly well with gear. Pitt is not even remotely good at testing them properly. They will be top tier 100 percent

  • @kollinsendall1
    @kollinsendall1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro warlock is f*cked compared to what we’ve been throughout sod.

  • @Francis-of8cw
    @Francis-of8cw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure when Warrrior's get some better gear and weapons they're going to be up there on the dps meter.

  • @peppin2143
    @peppin2143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the logs you're looking at can be misleading, you should set it to 95 or 99 percentile to get a accurate look at the dmg potential you can do. With warrior it's hard to say they are one of the worse when there is no good weapons to use on PTR.

  • @blackcape22
    @blackcape22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ....these numbers and logs make me question swapping from hunter to warrior. Hopefully we get buffed.

    • @johanlahti84
      @johanlahti84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A few logs from a few players that we have no idea how good they are at the game? Yeah this is to be taken with a grain of....no, a truckload of salt.

    • @Donaldburger
      @Donaldburger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most warrior players are dogshit the top warriors will still top meters

    • @crispymario
      @crispymario 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Taken with salt and I can't think of a more weapon dependant class than the warrior and were using lvl 50 weapons.

  • @Halloween1988
    @Halloween1988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    warrior dont feel nice atm on PTr i am not amazed.

  • @Alejandro_87
    @Alejandro_87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cope that when the time comes Blizzard will accidentally overtune any buffs that come after the PTR nerfs to warrior 😅

  • @JohnSmith-ez5pw
    @JohnSmith-ez5pw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Man, look at how they massacred Warrior

    • @Jameson-o1n
      @Jameson-o1n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good! You guys literally have it good any other time! let others shine. It's your time to hold the group up!

    • @ollzable
      @ollzable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Jameson-o1nlol thats such a weird thing to say.
      Warriors are literally necessary for 1 thing. To do DPS, and have always been.
      Other classes have other functions that make them useful even tho they are not popping off like warriors.
      Now that they fucked warriors DPS and on top of that, made them bad tanks, wtf are they useful for? They literally removed warriors from the game by doing this.

    • @dbmoose
      @dbmoose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A month into the raid with gear/world buffs good warriors will be fine, probably behind rogues, but will still be top dps in 95+ parsing groups. They are already simming very good once they have gear. Your average dad guild warrior was already not great dps when they were busted, so yeah in your average group warriors will probably struggle. If you look at the top logs for each class most classes are topping out around 2.5k, warriors included, with some outliers each way, but among those classes warriors will scale among the hardest.

    • @PredatoryEra
      @PredatoryEra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ollzable in my opinion no multi role class should out dps single role classes ever. Multirole dps should always bring more utility. but if we go strictly off the OG single role dps. Warlocks, mages, rogues hunters and warriors should all be vying for top damage. everything else should be designed for utility

  • @janhst97
    @janhst97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mages are too strong again, they one shotted me with frostfire bolt in phase 3
    So they one shot me in phase 4 with 5k??

  • @ponds812
    @ponds812 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I think, Nothing. not gonna play Sod again too much like retail

    • @Zutang777
      @Zutang777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think it’s like retail at all. But it’s just a weird approach to classic class design with the runes.

  • @RandyRadium
    @RandyRadium 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    warrior main here, looks like im not comign back! doa!

  • @tandridm6798
    @tandridm6798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish arms warriors would get some love, not sure what happened but arms used to be a terror in pvp, in earlier phases simply having warbringer rune made you a unstoppable force

    • @H-D-D
      @H-D-D 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Their issue has mostly been not being able to reach the target till they are dead. They re getting meat hook which is gonna help

    • @tandridm6798
      @tandridm6798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@H-D-D that too, I am excited for meathook

    • @Zutang777
      @Zutang777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or they are easily stopped and CCd
      Bladestorm does awesome Dmg while being unstoppable.
      Getting a 100% hamstring root from Cataclysm synergies so we’ll with Bladestorm.

    • @RandyRadium
      @RandyRadium 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@H-D-D this was never an issue, their issue is survivability and not being able to outlive classes burst

  • @MrCriipwalk
    @MrCriipwalk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No world buffs changes no P4 for me! Spend more time collecting buffs than play the game, no thanks

    • @FabiPlant91
      @FabiPlant91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can play the game without getting the buffs too it’s not a problem blizzard made it’s a problem we players made who wants to minmax with everything. It’s true your much stronger but there were many guilds back in 2019 who never complained if you came without some.

  • @Lanceloot91
    @Lanceloot91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wtf what are those warrior changes thunderlap scales with ap

  • @Zutang777
    @Zutang777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the execute at any rage is so corny of a design. They just need to stop over thinking it.
    Give warriors double hamstring from CATACLYSM and give warriors Bladestorm. Done and done.
    I want to charge in combat not use a chain. That’s also a corny theme for warriors.

    • @Abionx
      @Abionx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well the chain is huge for warriors in pvp since you can pull casters (mainly healers) from the backline up into the fray now, which is very big when in AV more then anything, also you can't charge up a tower but you can pull the fuckees out of it essentially lol
      Pve its good to pull specific mobs out of grouped up packs for cc and such, so its actually very useful if used in the right situations

    • @morgothkj
      @morgothkj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AbionxWrong. Chain doesn’t work on enemies above lvl60.

    • @Abionx
      @Abionx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morgothkj why tf would chain not work on mobs your lvl when your lvl 60?

    • @morgothkj
      @morgothkj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Abionx are you stupid? I said it won’t work on enemies above lvl 60 which all raid bosses and adds are…
      Therefore it is only useful in PvP.

  • @Felrisk
    @Felrisk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got a newborn and a ton of life just happening rn. No time to switch characters. Warrior main here going down with the ship o7

    • @karldergrosse-333
      @karldergrosse-333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brother, warriors will be disgusting in P4. Don’t worry. We are good!

  • @ShibbiSweet
    @ShibbiSweet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And then balance Druid 😢
    Ima prove em wrong Hammer

  • @anthonygoodwin3872
    @anthonygoodwin3872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BASICALLY IF YOURE NOT A WARRIOR OR ROGUE YOURE DOING IT WRONG

  • @richardstofko6331
    @richardstofko6331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    waited all this time for p4 only for them to completely fuck over warriors.... might be it for me

    • @BrokenToyAnimations
      @BrokenToyAnimations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...? you aint even played it yet lol. and your class scales with gear just be patient

    • @richardstofko6331
      @richardstofko6331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BrokenToyAnimations sry for thinking you're supposed to feel like you're getting more powerful as you level... warriors will be less powerful at 60 and you will be putting out less dps then you currently can in p3

    • @richardstofko6331
      @richardstofko6331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BrokenToyAnimations also I've been patiently waiting for p4 long enough

  • @eduardomazo692
    @eduardomazo692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They arent changing useless runes, kinda lame

  • @smackyobassfishing7737
    @smackyobassfishing7737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They told us warrior will be strong at 60 just to get screwed

  • @kirarozu
    @kirarozu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats the difference in those dps rogues?

    • @hammerdancegaming
      @hammerdancegaming  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Saberslash sword and dagger mutilate

  • @KDOG4796
    @KDOG4796 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    State of warrior seriously killing my hype for phase 4, might not even resub at this point

  • @Zutang777
    @Zutang777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not to worry about this. they are scaling the bosses too be twice as easy compared to classic. And adding a hard mode. Everyone will be able to do the raid. Only toxic sweats will try and bring the min max class for world first kills.

  • @michaelthomas1916
    @michaelthomas1916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is this stance dancing tier set bonus for warriors? Does it effect tanking?

    • @Felrisk
      @Felrisk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's gonna give me carpal tunnel is what it's gonna do

  • @Lanceloot91
    @Lanceloot91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you dont need to stance dance as warrior with the upgrades of the last update

    • @Zutang777
      @Zutang777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stance dancing is awesome. But it’s only good in wrath of the Lich king design. Not sure it works as well in classic.

    • @claytongiampaolo7848
      @claytongiampaolo7848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Zutang777 you can say that about most of the classes they borrowed from wrath for

  • @montoneas9618
    @montoneas9618 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i dont know what class to play now Paladin warrior or Warlock!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @benett1310
    @benett1310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warriors gonna be fine with lv60 weapons… atm o. PTR we are testing with ST weapons

    • @richardstofko6331
      @richardstofko6331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      copium

    • @morgothkj
      @morgothkj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what they said “wArrIoR wilL be fInE with WOrld bUffS” and then now they’re saying with lvl 60 wep lmao yall really hate warriors 🤣

    • @karldergrosse-333
      @karldergrosse-333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morgothkjyou must not understand the power spike of a good level 60 weapon lol.

    • @morgothkj
      @morgothkj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@karldergrosse-333 you’re coping if you think a weapon will double/triple your dps cause rn hunters rogues are literally double a warrior dps

    • @karldergrosse-333
      @karldergrosse-333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morgothkj tell me you know nothing about classic warrior without telling me...LMAO

  • @tharpoon
    @tharpoon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    surely ele shams will get a buff lol

  • @stormwatch7245
    @stormwatch7245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please do a video on if you think priests will still be ok as healers in phase 4?

  • @vilgus7484
    @vilgus7484 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been ele since p1, feels bad. I'm hoping we get something before p4 launches. Hoping the larger mana pools further into the phase will push ele up again so we can max rank cast and not run out of mana.

    • @Roxxor98
      @Roxxor98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      brother ele has no mana problems ele has just singletarget dmg problems

    • @Dukk1078
      @Dukk1078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dude ele is number one in pvp

    • @Roxxor98
      @Roxxor98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dukk1078 yes and? i speak about singletarget in pve? like the vid is all about pve lol

    • @browniesbytes305
      @browniesbytes305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unless they decouple pvp and pve damage scaling ele/boomie/spriest will just be even more oppressive in pvp…

    • @johanlahti84
      @johanlahti84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@browniesbytes305 pvp is a meme, get over it..

  • @FTRTIZZ
    @FTRTIZZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol phase 4 is going to shit how could they even sit there and say that fine with warrior ? like make it make sense please

    • @Abionx
      @Abionx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because warriors aren't going to shit... the ptr only has lvl 50 weapons, and warriors are heavy wep required class, so of course they look like shit.
      Your basically seeing a lvl 50 warrior with pre raid 60 gear but a lvl 50 wep dps compared to most lvl 60s pre raid dps

  • @FTRTIZZ
    @FTRTIZZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so warrior tank sucks and dps ????? you switching classes after investing how many hours ... that's not balanced brother

  • @armenchiky
    @armenchiky 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so no love to shadow priests again ha?

    • @mattmckern3644
      @mattmckern3644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr same to warlock

    • @davidfields5375
      @davidfields5375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@mattmckern3644you must both be joking

  • @CatKingCole82
    @CatKingCole82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wanna be in his guild so bag 😂

  • @Jason-993
    @Jason-993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warriors babyraging while they have dragonslayer buff is hillarious. They spent so much time whining how other classes should be less than 50% of their dps because of them being hybrids (while warrior is a tank/dps hybrid itself... ) and due to utility (while warriors had the best debuff in the game in classic wow in sunder armour, rogues can do this but at a decent dps loss.) And now they QQ when the shoe is on the other foot.

  • @henriquedasilva3037
    @henriquedasilva3037 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boomies seem to be at the botton?

  • @arch4916
    @arch4916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Changing to rogue cuz its buffed over class you like its real crybaby move dude.....

    • @mageeboi
      @mageeboi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t9t9t9t9t9 leaving a comment like yours on someone else commenting on what class someone else is playing in world of warcraft is "the real crybaby move"

    • @davidfields5375
      @davidfields5375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mageeboicrying about crying about crying, classic.

    • @arch4916
      @arch4916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we're square now guys :)

  • @dylanreidel5520
    @dylanreidel5520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have waited for this video the stats aren't there with the huge rogue nerf this data is outdated hammer you fishing for views man boi

  • @Devils1023
    @Devils1023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    balance druids are nonexistent again how fun

    • @brandonwilson4740
      @brandonwilson4740 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They dominate pvp quit whining

    • @davidfields5375
      @davidfields5375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Immediate complaining 🙄 I'm a warrior and I'm optimistic, ever tried it?

    • @Tiemooo59
      @Tiemooo59 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidfields5375at the end pc every phase warrior was one of the best or like in ST by far the best dps. As soon as people find out how to play it in p4 and warriors get gear they will for sure be on top again. That’s what always happens in classic when warriors get gear

    • @davidfields5375
      @davidfields5375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tiemooo59 well maybe you just need to figure out how to play balance?

    • @Devils1023
      @Devils1023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A bunch of tards in the comment as always I do parse 90 to 90+ that doesn't mean balance druids don't get shit on with runes gear and graphs

  • @cirezerimar4712
    @cirezerimar4712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #savewarriorSoD