Classic PLUS Is Coming (there's a new survey for us to take!)
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- With Classic Plus on the horizon, it's time to let our voices be heard and have a hand in the development of it.
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Absolutely NO flying mounts. I hope that’s something almost the entire community can agree on.
Totally hate flying mounts. Loved Classic for being able to ride everywhere, pick your best routes to avoid or engage in WorldPvP. So much more interaction between factions with ground-only mounts.
I am the 1% maybe but I would love 310% flying in the game like wotlk, you are just faster moving around, farming, getting to dungeons etc. Just do a no-fly zone on pvp servers in pvp event areas of the map like wintergrasp. Problem solved. If you argue about world pvp is dead with flying mounts, wpvp died with players killing low level over and over or just go 4v1 on people that just quest. You will never have fair wpvp not in 2024 :D Another idea is a grappling hook for pvp zones with 1000y range then you can grab your pvp targets and have fun. I just wanna travel fast around the map.
@@nyroku8580 less than 1%.
@@nyroku8580 there should just be the better flight path system for players like you with a flare system that gets you picked up by a FP vendor on a cool down.
I think no flying is the better option, however I believe there should be the option to dismount the flight path and parachute down and have more/better flight paths/routes
The dream is alive. Just finish the original game! This would include content mostly from the first 3 expansions. Some people will like that others won't. There's never a scenario where everybody is happy. Finish the game, finish the quest chains, add the dungeon, raids, and zones. Balance the classes. And above all listen to the community
I'd say finish the content that was planned for vanilla but keep the max level at 60. Just feels right.
@@Ash-Ketchum-and-Pikachuoriginal designed max level was 70. I'm not for or against the lvl change just stating for clarification. If the goal is to finish the game as it was intended that's one thing to consider.
Update graphics also
Listening to the community above all? “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” They need a strong lead designer who understands Vanilla above all. Most of the people responding to this survey have made it clear that they have limited understanding of what made Vanilla magical outside of obvious points such as flying mounts. Classic+ should not be designed by committee.
NONE is always the correct answer when asked about what microtransactions are acceptable
You know what should have in classic+? Remove the raid logs and the parse ecosystem. Let the comunity feels the game with the enviroment and the gameplay, not with numbers and min/max burnout
that's all third party stuff though, and it's all from recording the combat log and uploading it. The only thing Blizzard could do is somehow alter the way the combat log is recorded, but I'm not sure how that would affect things like QA and bug fixing
Not even FFXIV can prevent DPS meters and logs, and they actively try to ban those things.
they’d have to ban addons altogether, which most likely wouldn’t happen because the default UI is horrendous. players are their own final boss.
Suck less and learn your class that you enjoy. Lol it's not hard to be decent at the game and absolutely should.impact your raiding opportunities
Btw this is a thing that has no effect on you if you uninstall details and join a casual guild with the same mindset. You clear raids and have fun but dont talk for others please. If I wanna speedrun or learn my rotation or compare my performance let me do that. You are not forced to upload logs or join groups that do.
This survey is largely an echo chamber of parsers who are virtually the only people still playing and paying attention right now. Finally getting a "Classic+" but having many of its social dynamics (friction in the game's designs) be replaced with conveniences and overbalancing will be such a punch in the gut. I hope that Classic gets a new lead designer who can sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to listening to community feedback.
This whole thing is based off OSRS, and if anything has been learned from it, it's make the new end game content horizontal. If not horizontal, make it BARELY more powerful than the last.
Hard Mode raids are cancer. People don't want hard; that's why--and most people can't even do them. Every guild will only strive to do hard modes, and this will cause them to break up and people get frustrated and quit. Classic isn't a hard game, and especially because the wow audience is aging, casual friendly isn't a bad thing to say the least...
Sooo true!
Yea less hard different mechanics to learn but hard.modes are just cancer.
Bingo
I was always thinking i like hc raiding, but i really enjoyed vanilla/tbc classic raiding the most.
I want LFR. I'm 42 and mow my own grass
I’m sorry. I have completely different game in mind. That would expand classic and make it focused on making the world larger.
I just started the video and you want changes that start to lean towards modern wow aka TWW.
You need to hear different perspectives and opinions to see if you would like classic expanding the opposite direction from TWW.
For me. I would an add new exclusive class for each faction.
I also wouldn’t want blizzard to care if a faction is slightly better in raiding at the top end. That’s way to competitive and building your game around this is toxic and annoying.
It’s PVE not pvp. players will learn to only compare horde to horde and alliance to alliance if they want to compete for some reason.
You should try turtle wow, seriously
Id rather not have faction exclusive classes. Let both have the classes in classic+.
FEED BACK for classic+
- They need to unlocked all the locked maps in Azeroth and add new quest/story chains.
- There are total 9 locked map in vanilla Azeroth (with isles)
- They should add new dungeons and few new raids to some of these locked maps ofc. and design new items/gears fit to vanilla culture.
- Some of people dont wanna see GDKP - Bots - Multiboxers - gold sellers and boosters. blizz should take this into consideration.
- BARBERSHOP would be great in vanilla btw. (Except for gender reassignment)
- We want to see the more lore from; The Great war to warcraft3 in vanilla Azeroth!
- WE DONT WANNA PLAY WITH FCKN RETAIL SKILLS ofc!
- We wanna see new races in line with the story of vanilla(warcraft). (maybe worgens cuz worgens shows in 2003 vanilla trailer. maybe high elves, maybe goblins or ogres idk)
- More world boss and more wpvp events would be good ofc in line with the lore of vanilla.
- Another arena would be great like grubashi with different chest or reward idk.
- We dont want flying mounts and transmogs!
I am a 35 year old dad warcraft player, I have cleared vanilla twice before. Now I started again in Zandalar tribe fresh(eu) because SoD(PTR) is a disgrace!
I hope one day they will complete the unfinished vanilla and present it to us...
I would argue there is a considerable amount of people who want hard content... imo those should be satisfied in solo, 3man or 5man type content, not 20 to 40 people having to coordinate
I dont want ret paladins be relegated to auto attacking. So giving them some retsil abilities like Divine storm and crusader strike is a no brainer.
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SoD has been amazing imo. I wanna see a classic+ that goes hard. Classic era is an unfinished mess of a game that should just stay in the early 00's
All well said brother,totally agree...we want classic not retail shit
Take the survey people. Like and comment for the algorithm
Nah, Keep the faction specific classes. I would rather see two new classes that are also faction specific, that horde salv / alliance windfury. Or even a single brand new cross faction class (Runemaster was planned for vanilla wow but was cut due to time) that could give these buffs.
So we can no longer use the survey wth is this?
When I tried to share this to my friends and other guilds/discords I've been playing with it says "answers can no longer be entered in the Classic+ survey".
Classic plus is a good 1-2 years away and they only had this survey up for a few days?!
Tried multiple times on multiple content creators who have the URL link to the survey, all have the same "answers can no longer be entered..." like really now.
The biggest problem with faction locking shaman and pally is loot distribution. It hurts to see pally items drop as horde knowing the item you really need could have dropped instead.
We definitely think differently lol. I always thought TBC was the best version of WOW, would be cool if they just did tbc but with no outland/flying and all new content at 70. They would have to tweak some of the specs to make them better like some of the pally ones. Arena in classic would only be fun for a few classes and they probably wouldn't do any balancing. Classic is more balanced in big group content, it wasn't an option but I think rated BG is more fitting.
Will be interesting to see how classic + shakes out.
Spec quests would be awesome. Like long chains themed around each classes spec.
Classic is all about growing with your character. If the character didn't do the attunement quest he should not get into onyxia. No accountwide reputation!! Wtf? If you need an Alt the game does not give you enough to do at max lvl. I really the idea of something like an one main character only restriction. Like raid lock account wide 😂
Guild halls kill the vanilla vibe! just sit in one of the big pubs in stormwind ffs.
Catch up mechanics should not make old raids irrelevant!
Enjoyed SOD but really looking forward to Classic+. Personally, I hope they can find ways to shake up the "Meta" for everything, add new zones and quests to revive the sense of exploration, new class specific quests/stories to deepen the class experiences perhaps thru class specific World Events/Call to Arms to specific classes? Just glad Plus is on the horizon. While I have never played Turtle Wow, I know people seem to enjoy it, any ideas there to speak of?
Based on this I think you can just play retail go get what you want.
No the point of classic plus is to have an expanded vanilla world. Retail is completely redone to the point it's barely the same game. There's almost no zones that remain how they were in classic in retail.
After playing the war within i will say i really like the more complex rotations for classes, but i gravitate towards classic as the better mmo. More complex rotations and mythic+ would be really cool in classic in my opinion though.
it would just be retail-lite with all those changes
I was thinking the same thing, he wants retail lite +
Seems like retail lite is the sweet spot fam. Don't like that, just play era. Something for everyone out there.
Classic+ should be a type of retail lite. Giving QoL changes to vanilla is just what the old game needs.
@@powercheifYes exactly good comment
Locking horde/alli only mattered till discord became the main communication
I know this survey is not official from the devs but it has been confirmed by the "Countdown to Classic" community and multiple content creators that this survery will go to the devs. I still don't see why make a lengthy survey like this only to have it removed a few days later. I mean the devs want as much info/help they can get to make a better Classic+.
Considering C+ isn't coming anytime soon. We're maybe talking 1 to 1.5 years from now. Hopefully they put out the survey again or someone else does a new (more updated) one.
Faction balance should be the same on PVE servers. If not, you get mobs/events that are camped by one side and it's a complete headache to try to get things done. The Horde Onyxia quest chain was a giant pain thanks to the Alliance having a much larger population and always interacting/killing Emberstrife.
It can be easily fix with a full crossfaction mechanics in pve server. If u dont like the crossfaction thing, just go to a pvp server.
Horde is op!
I would love to see a 10% mount at level 15 or so. our characters an adults, they should be able to ride a horse. Make it a fun quest chain where you have to get Leather for the Reigns or something.
I'm not sure about adding more races in a classic + as part of the excitement for me in a classic + is being in the vanilla world, but seeing changes such as class changes like in SoD that got rid of a lot of the meme specs by making them actually playable, and adding new quests, mobs, items, dungeons, raids, etc to explore in zones/areas of zones we didn't really do anything in. I feel like if I saw a bunch of new races, that I just found myself in a retail expansion that used the base world for a new expansion lol.
If anything, I'd be okay with paladins and shamans being available to both factions, like drawf shaman and tauren paladin. Both factions now benefits in SoD from windfury, kings buff, and fear ward and I think the change has been good so far on that part. I'd like to be able to play a paladin on the horde side again, and know that some people on the alliance side miss playing a shaman. But, I wouldn't not play classic + if that change didn't happen.
What sucks about attunements: if you jump in later and everyone has attunements, its hard af to find a group to complete the attunement. This needs to be fixed because is a big reason new players burn out.
Classes after TBC really isnt classic, the whole design of classes from wotlk onward is retail, they are changed alot.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course it's your survey, but addressing the Items from professions question, it didn't say Bind on Pickup items, they could be BoE. It wouldn't necessarily result in pigeon-holing people into professions, it could just add value to the market by offering a different way to acquire gear.
The devs should just look at turtle wow and steal each and every idea that works.
Some consumables (elixirs) persists through death, new zones, new dungeons, some new (vanilla appropiate) skills from skill books that drop from different dungeons, rebalance of weaker talent tree, new questlines, new races, keep vanilla stat system but start using underused stats like haste more often, single hardmode raid boss in an otherwise universal raid tier.
There is no need for a huge overhaul of certain classes, warrior rotation is fine, hunter rotation is fine as examples. Giving meme specs 1-2 more buttons to press to either provide support to the raid/grp or increase their dps slightly is completely fine. Hybrids being support specs is completely fine and I really wish the community would stop requiring for example balance druids to be able to compete with lets say a mage on dps. I much rather Balance druids being in a place were their added utility (innervate, 3% crit, CR, *insert new additions*) and flexibility brought to the raid makes up for the loss of personal dps. I'm not saying don't buff the hybrids, I'm saying part of the flavour of playing a hybrid is to provide utility and support, give them new tools that helps them excel at that. Some suggestions: WC3 Bloodlust, single target haste buff, to Enhance shamans, TBC mana battery Shadow priests.
I'm torn whether giving alliance windfury is a good idea, part of the vanilla PVP meta is shaped around horde being a more aggressive faction due to shamans windfury, shaman ele/healers having one shot potential while still able to pump heals and offensive dispells. While alliance is more defensive due to BoP, Blessings and Freedom etc. Is losing part of this faction dynamic in PvP worth it? However giving ferals wildstrikes achieves my previous points of buffing the supportive elements of hybrid dps specs to make up the loss of dps. I don't know if the tradeoff of net negative faction indentity for a net positive class change is worth it but I also don't think I'll be unhappy eitherway.
STV bloodmoon would be amazing in a No to Small class changes enviorment.
Segregating PVP and PVE gear into seperate groups hurts players who likes both sides of the game like myself, I really don't like the addition of stats such as resilience. The stat makes sure that PVP will always be worse off than any PVE gear in any scenario that isn't PVP (and vise versa). Also having to do some dungeon grinding to get my starter PVP set and do some raiding to get a couple BIS items is also a natural part of the journey that the future expansions didn't really have minus a few fringe trinkets or weapons here and there. Small -% chance to recieve a crit on like the PVP trinket and maybe the PVP set bonus is fine.
Arena for me isn't a dealbreaker but I much rather see Rated BGs, I miss the Premade vs Premade from private servers such as Henhouse, on classic it seems the community is more interested in dodging facing other premades...
they should slow down the leveling speed and make reputation grinding for factions available at lower levels so people can do something on top of leveling that will pay off during end game.
Yeah. Do not change anything but very minor details for classic + and add dungeons and raids. EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD STAY THE SAME
IMO these surveys should be sent to everyone, not randomly. It’s tough to get what the community wants when sweats make decisions for casuals or vice versa. THE ONLY fair way to do this is to allow EVERYONE to do this survey. A simple pop up when you log in to perform optional survey to give everyone a chance.
This survey in question wasn't made by the developers, it's made by a private redditor as far as I know.
@@jhaim5293 yeah I know, but when blizzard does their surveys, everyone should get a chance to voice their opinion IMO
Survey:
Just give us Turtle.
32:13 I LOVE the only model rune it for 20 but can being more if you like, but it doesn’t drop more loot.
MORE QUESTS. I want to see OSRS tier snowflake accounts! (1-60 in zones ONLY controlled by Stormwind)
Achievements should be unique for Classic+
if they do a classic plus then they need to change the scenery a bit, maybe place the mining and herbing nodes in different zones. give us something new to look at. we have looked at the classic scenery for the past 5 years and its old.
Kargoz needs to shut the hell up. He's had classic classic for 20...years... people want classic+
who tf is that guy? XD
@koreanzombie6697 he is probably the biggest youtuber/streamer for classic class guides. He's very anti-changes to classic. Because people like him have the game all figured out and how to maximize dps optimally. So any changes throws them for a loop.
Hope there will be more surveys. I hope there will be better loot rewards or items what makes sense and redue items stats for some items what allready is in game. There are lot of elite q but like no rewards for them. Sometimes I like better thoose kinda quests then dungeons.
what do yall thinj about maybe purchasable world buffs? not like Real Wolrd Money i mean in game gold, a substantial (not tiny) fee from a vendor you have to go out of your way to travel to (not in a major city) and buy a worls buff that applies immediately for gold? i think this would help the world buff problem, prevent needing to login/out 6 hours before your raid to wait around collecting buffs and booning them at just the right time. you could still earn them manually the way they are intended for free but this way you could avoid that whole stress factor of world buff farming pre raid. i am interested in hearinf thoughts about this.
You know sweaty guilds will force people to go and buy them if they wipe. And you know where large mandatory gold sinks lead to, so no thanks!
gold sinks are integral to keeping the value of gold. just an idea. plus thats fine if you dont like that, dont join a sweaty guild?@@pluuf
@@pluufnot to mention i didnt say it would be THE way to get world buffs. so its not a mandatory gold sink idea either. its an optional time over money conundrum. up to the player to choose if they think their time or their gold is more valuable
I took this quiz and realized that I'm probably a retail Andy. 😂 I love SOD and still play it everyday, but, when going through this quiz and being honest with myself, I picked all the QOL answers. 😂
Me too. I miss area loot in classic amongst other things.
I remember playing through classic era throughout 2023 and, while fun, there was a lot of noticeable problems with the game. Giving QoL will help it a ton. And making meme specs more balanced will help too. Id love to see ret paladins and shadow priests be viable in PVE and not just PVP.
It needs quality of life , like 1.5 sec mount casts
So I just want to ask... where did this survey come from? How do we know it is actually fielded by the devs themselves instead of just a fan survey?
This survey was made by a private person on reddit. Not the devs.
@@jhaim5293 That's what I figured. Blizzard wouldn't use Google Forms. They would use their own domain like they've been doing for their own surveys in the past. Did no one else think of this??
@@jhaim5293source on this statement of yours???
Hammer said this will be handed directly to the devs at the end
Are these QA made by blizz them self?
Watching this is almost physically painful. I disagree with almost every box you checked. Unfortunately I didn’t get the survey myself, but I guess I’ll just have to stick to Turtle, then.
I just want vanilla but with the missing content finished. That’s it. I don’t get how this can’t be done without changing the entire gameplay or undermining the MMORPG aspects with micro transactions or CRZ of layers and so on. Ugh 😢
Classic Era already exists! But also, you can take the survey I linked it in the description for you guys.
@@hammerdancegaming oh! Thanks for letting me know. I completely missed that on my phone.
The problem with era is that it’s stagnant. WoW has four core pillars: combat, world, community, and content. If you leave it without adding content the game dies. That’s why all the era servers died when tBC came out or why private servers die shortly after Naxx. It’s actually got nothing to do with whether tBC is better. It has to do with game not getting stagnant.
That is not a license to change everything about the gameplay though or to forget about those 4 pillars.
I'm with you on that one. Literally just add some dungeons, raids, sprinkle in quests, maybe outdoor zones and balance some shit. Take it slow. There was a crap load of unfinished stuff. Just finish some stuff up and balance stuff. Go from there.
I always wished the level cap would stay at 60 and the classes were either specific in purpose or very well evenly balanced. Keep introducing new dungeons and rep, but keep 60 cap.
Every answer was different for me than it was for you. (Except leveling)
If weapon skill were to be made less meta defining, tick which changes/alternatives are appealing:
I want that each race have a weapon skill, that option is not on the survey
Dude still love your content and getting the opportunity to raid with y’all back in phase 1 SoD on Fisto. (Till I moved back to Horde) 😊 Question? Why are there no other streamers talking about this by now? Feel like this would be across the board.
I think more items with weapon skill, plus being able to switch your racial for other facials and or adding more weapon skill facials into the game. Weapon skill just adds a lot of flavor to the game as far as gearing and getting that one weapon skill item feels really goodand OP
They need to make new (unreleased) zones, new dungeons (both for leveling and endgame) and new raids, new giant quests chains...imagine if they made 2 additional 0.5 tier set quest chains so that you have 3 in total, 3 different 0.5 for 3 specs for every class, so that you have a ton of content to do, then you add every other tier set X3 for every spec for every class that you can obtain in different (new raids) so people still have the reason to go back and do those raids, dungeons etc. Grim Batol raid, scarlet crusade, Kara, caverns of time, uldum, hyjal etc etc and many more.
Id also be down to remove world buffs if they dont make certain classes rely on them like warriors.
12:00 how about giving the ability to unlock summoning stones to enchanters or the materials they make. That way anyone can do it, anyone could potentially even buy it.
And if you want warlock to stand out, just make their summoning solo and anywhere...
Nice vid dude! Interesting the minor differences in preference but atleast you explain why!
Classic plus SHOULD have flying ... BUT .... the flying mount is a droppable from a boss like zulian tiger et al ... and ONLY the final boss in the top tier raid (hopefully beyond NAX but no heroic or mythic level raiding - one level raiding only, same for all) drops it and maybe raid participants wide. This would deem an end symbol IE game over - game completed..! Every game NEEDS an end per se, rather than infinite expansionism.
The ULTIMATE show item reward to the GRINDERS....! IT should never be misunderstood how much of an incentive to play a flying mount would be...!
With the pvp levels non degrading it may even be determined that a special token MUST be bought which can only be bought at grand martial level which must be handed in to the flying trainer to activate your flying skill and only whilst holding the flying mount in your inventory. As such the ULTIMATE chase flex mount in the game ...! LOL the race is ONNNNNNN......and indisputable on each server...!
How about capturable objectives in Open-World where the more they are up the batter the rewards for the owning faction such as we have in Plaguelands, Wintergrasp etc.
In the OG my guild used to defend Auberdine and Astranaar from Horde for no reason than fun and RP (we were a Nelf only Sentinel Guild). Having some ingame reputaional reward would help bring some World-PvP back.
I learned a valuable lesson… I only enjoy leveling in classic wow. Once the progression of my character relies upon other people, I lose interest. Leveling is great, but the end game is hard reserved….
The main issue I had with SoD was that it did not feel like classic... if there are so many changes that it no longer feels like classic - I thought phase 1 changes were enough for 1-60 pretty much.
I am hoping for dual spec, minor class balancing for all classes (with more for some hybrids that need it), minor changes for professions, and new quest/questlines. Once these changes go through - we judge from there what needs adjusting. Minor changes over time will get us to where we think classic + should be.
The problem is they don't seem to implement changes with any care. I remember getting lava burst on my shaman and suddenly having this darn near free spell do like three times more dmg than anything else I had. Doesn't make any sense in a classic world but they put it in the game. Something like that where if they just did it right it would work but instead it makes it feel fan made or something.
you need to do Attune when passing the dungeon, a quick transition to it opens with a cooldown of 30 minutes.
Please more of these surveys!!!! and make them in-game ones so it links to your account/bank account/ some sort of unique identification. YES BLIZZARD! KEEP LISTENING!
Great video brother
@@lance-thecomebackkids6848 thanks dude!!
does the system of an ability doing, or not doing, a certain thing or an amount of damage in PvE versus PvP work well in other games?
If you want them to add so many more zones, get xp from gathering, add new quests and have dual spec (less need for alts), then it make sense the leveling should be 150h not 120h
XP from levelling your gathering and Professions would be a bad idea.
Calling it right now.. If they add extra Raid difficulties to Classic+.. People will quit. There will still be a playerbase there, for sure.. But you will heavily limit the potential audience for the game. Many of the people playing Classic, are playing it for the more relaxed, almost cozy raids. The raids being on the easier side makes it to where you can bring "bad specs" or even bad players without having to really worry much about it. This environment is completely annihilated when you start adding higher levels of difficulty. I truly believe if you want that sort of experience, please for the love of God, stay in Retail where you belong.
We’re do we get this survey?
NO CHARACTER BOOST.
Maybe I'm silly for asking but where did they post the link to this survey?
The survey was posted on Reddit by a redditor who thought it would complement the official survey by the developers. The survey mentioned on this video is unofficial as far as I know and is created by a private person.
Is this for an official classic+ server or a private server?
I am super over world buffs. I think people idealize that these bring the community together, and even if it does a little, it still feels like a net negative. Its not fun, and take time every week. Lets be honest, most people are squeezing in time to get this done, and usually by themselves. Bad game mechanic for a 2024 audience.
I agreed with everything except warriors need Armor Pen…WOTLK stats gave me a reason to grind my eyes out for the gear i needed and the stat balancing is so flat in Cata…i like cata but its like drinking a diet soda after u have been drinking the most AMAZING crisp
ass McD soda 😂😂. What my ultimate dream is is for them to start the best triligy known in MMO history…..again ❤
The survey is already over :(
They should Add VoiceOver
Seems like you're taking this survey in a sod mindset. Classic plus should be classic plus extra content at end game with very little changes. Any changes should be subtle like insta mail for example. These surveys are going to be blotched.
Vast population doesnt play classic. So this survey is going to end poorly. People will pick "Quality of Life" changes effectively making retail. Just my opinion. Im guessing ill play it then once they remove resource management, mob difficulty by super items, overpowered hero level spells then I will return to classic again.
If classic+ does come out will everyone start from lvl 1 again or will existing characters stay and it be am Expansion as such?
It will be a whole new experience, so I assume that everyone starts from scratch.
Great stuff, i didnt get the survey, all iget are diablo 4 surveys haha
Liked and commented to push the video!
Classic+ DEFINITELY shouldnt have catch up mechanics dude. This thing ruin the progresssive experience that makes vanilla feels vanilla, it makes the world dead with people only doing the fresh content.
There already is a catch up mechanic without adding a "catch up mechanic", players will give new players items and players run each other and catch up each other.
Lol you think this happens 😂😂
Catch up mechanic = buy gold, buy boosts, gdkp.
@@bigscrap84 Two things i do hope for is Flex raiding and the 150hrs to level to 60
I notice fewer people doing attunement now. I think the account wide attunement are bad for alts.
People can’t get it threw there heads that SOD is classic plus
i dont really want paladins on the Horde side. you guys can keep em.
You have the wrong idea. Unfortunately these opinions will make the majority of the player base. Just make vanilla retail and get it over with? Classic+ announcement day will be a sad one
Dude no faction and races changed. No micro transaction bullshit big F right there
SoD took it too far with the skills/abilities imo. Some massaging to the meme specs and add content OSRS style. I really feel like that’s all Classic+ needs to be successful. It just seems like they try to make an exciting NEW thing when what Classic players enjoy is the OLD thing. Just my take at least
I'm somewhat baffled by the question around Engineering being mandatory for PvE. What exactly is "mandatory" from engineering for PvE? Repair bots? Been playing a lot of SoD, and engineering lags way behind LW/BS/Tailoring in terms of PvE because of all the craftable FR gear those professions have, versus engineering.
Is there something i'm missing?
the question is probably from a classic/tbc/wotlk/cata perspective where you go Eng+X as your raiding prof or you do not care enough. In Sod they changed some items and other prof so that Eng is not mandatory (chicken trinket from Gnome raid and really good crafting gear from tailor/leather/BS) still if you want to play meta you use sappers and dragon trinket even in SoD. In later xpacs like wotlk+cata it's the tinkers that made eng good.
edit: also crafted FR gear is BoE you don't need any prof for that in SoD
bro is stuck in puberty
Make world buffs a consumable with a long like 3 day cool down so you have to use them wisely.
aka the Chronoboon from SoD? lol
@@stevenoest Maybe i should have been more clear. A buff bought from a vendor or crafted so you dont have to wait for events or run around the world .
Unfortunately the survey from his perspective is alliance so questions like shaman on alliance pushes what people want from a "Classic+" like the classic wow but with the ideas that the devs had from the beginning to what we have in retail "Give everyone everything" keep shamans horde and pallys alliance
is he allowed to show this?
Id rather have WoW 2.0 than Classic plus.
New world. Half the fun of classic was discovering the world. We now know Azeroth blindfolded.
New graphics. Not Disneyesque. My Orc should be scary, not looking like Shrek.
Classic game play. 4-6 button rotations, less unused spells, no addons, no logs, no parsing. Slower leveling.
More balanced classes to the extent it can be done.
More class quests
Make crafting a necessity. You should be able to upgrade your epic crafted armor.
PVP needs to work. Spamming AV for honor and basically shutting down WSG and AB was kinda short sited.
More world bosses. Ashenvale event was pretty cool. That should have scaled to higher levels.
These are just a few thoughts. Been playing since 05.
I wanna play classic plus but I want faster lvling after 20nyears of private servers and classic lvling classic era way is a huge turn off for me making a new classic plus character
Most of my answers were the same. A few were off for me personally.. just way more content.
This is just a google form somebody put on a Reddit man. Chill.
So for what i can see you basecly want no changes but some side quests. And races...?
Think you missed the point with classic +
If it goes even minor of your selection 60-70% wont play it. Or they will try it just like Classic and hardcore (then die out) Classic is to clounky and slow for the modern players.. then population dies out then the game itself.
Just being honest. The only ppl that will play this way of wow all the way to 60 and play endgames is old neckbeards.
Thats not the point with classic + they wanna bring the Community s together with it 100%
Yall wanted classic.
Its more dead then ever, do old dogs eventually learn to sit ? Seems no.
Meanwhile sod is thrived more then ever due to it brought both communitys together yes it has some flaws. But atleast people play it and its fun and interesting for most players. This was a W
The only ppl complained rly was (old neckbeards) but they still play it to this day 🤔🤣 with all this said.
I hope classic plus brings
MORE QUESTS
Hidden zones
More Dungeons and raids
More races or fair it out.
And pls for love of god
Do not make the lvling (classic slow) tbc is slow enough for modern wow players. Just being plane sight honest. And if its slow 120 hours. Make it alt friendly like retail warband(somewhat that direction) everyone wants alts but lvling a 2 or 3d with slow 120+h is big no for MANY.
And DO NOT make it clounky so ur rotation is litterly auto hits with 2 spells..
I want shaman on ally I hate horde zones and radials should be deleted.
Bro please do whatever you can to make sure devs don’t just make classic plus another copy/paste nightmare. I went from playing a wotlk warlock in wotlk to playing a wotlk warlock in SoD. That’s not new abilities, that’s copied abilities I’ve been using for 17 years. 17 year olds aren’t newborns.
Original ideas, new never before seen thing. Actual intent on design not just “some dev increased the lvl of random world mobs so we just threw an instance portal there and call it a dungeon” like sit down and make a new damn dungeon on purpose.
And they need to stop lying and taking credit for other peoples work
I didn't get it😢
Dude go play retail if you want all this stuff.
i disagree with most of your picks
Dude come on man, why do you want to spend 120 hours on questing when the game starts at 60. All those Classic era servers are dead and no one hardly levels unless a movement like deviate delight occurs (which just bring the player population to one location and doesn't add new player base). This is my concern with the survey, Players will make these comments based off the outdated "Classic Feel" of unnecessary grinds for leveling. The worst part of leveling is the wasted travel time it takes to travel from one place to another. Before this was fun and unique because it was brand new but everyone has seen these places and they just want to get it done especially if you have limited hours per week to play. Its not 2008 anymore lol, grinding is not fun. There is a reason leveling guides have been popular since Vanilla...leveling way too long.
Not all of us have that much time. The SOD exp buff should be perma. Wow dads are a thing.
Deviate is dead compared to Whitemane or any server in it's cluster. Log into Whitemane sometime and go to SW or Org. Sounds like you are about to be surprised.
@@ClassicEverQuest classic era having a population in the capitals is quite common. I am on the Pagle Cluster which is the largest PVE cluster.
My comment is towards the open world leveling scene and in classic era it’s completely dead
I agree. Everyone has this nostalgia of "the classic feel" and then when it comes down to actually playing the game, they'll buy RXP guides or just dungeon spam/boost up to max level anyways.
100% agree, I can't stand the fact that some people are totally okay with wasting their life in a virtual world. I'd like to be able to play 5-10 hours a week and not move at a snails pace because I have shit to do. Like I get it that this guy is a TH-camr and is able to spend 10 hours a day in a videogame but most of us have real jobs and I am not committing 120 hours to a pointless game.