Retro Review: 1995 Volkswagen GTI VR6
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This is how ALL car reviews should be done. Short, sweet, informative and STRAIGHT to the point!
I was 18 years old when this car was new and I showed up to the VW dealership to test drive one and after the test drive the sales guy told me “well if you can’t afford this now the next generation GTI will be even better than this one.” I distinctly remember saying to him “do you think they can improve upon this car? “ That’s how great I thought it was.
1:20 Actually the original 2.8L VR6 was "DOHC" in that it had two camshafts in the single head shared by the two banks, 15 degrees apart. But each only acted on one bank, so it was only 12 valves. My first car was a '97 Passat with that engine in it, and despite less than excellent care from the previous owner, and being saddled with a pretty awful 4 speed slushbox, I loved just about everything about the first gen VR6 I had.
Yeah I was taken aback by that too. You had to wait for the 3.2 L for true DOHC 24v one intake cam one exhaust cam action.
@@hiepphambui3941 wait didn’t Europe get a true DOHC engine rated at 204hp? I thought that was the big difference between EDM vs USDM cars.
@@chrisdooley1184 No. same motor. Sigle cam per bank on the VR6 regardless of the nation. IIRC the differences were cam profile, exhaust manifolds and such. The SLC Corrado came with a 2.9 that had different intake and better exhaust manifolds.
So good. Takes me back to my MK3 VR6 days.
Ace of Base on the stereo at 4:40 and those seats... could it get any more 1995 than this?
kylethestyle Takes me straight back to my senior year in high school!
kylethestyle crazy how this has quicker acceleration than my turbocharged stick shift 2010 mk6 gti.
VQSeries really?
supercooled yep lol, no exaggeration!
Yes! Don't turn around!
the best sounding engine i have ever heard
Kristian Thomas truth.
Motorweek never shows enough of the engine sound, or when they do, they cover it up with music.
Maestro_T ....yes god!! & john davis talking over the car as it accelerates down the track it's irritating
Nick Dovie They always do it. The most irritating is when they mention how good the engine sounds and then they don't let you hear it because they cover it up somehow. I mean, come on guys, engine sounds are music to the ears of car fanatics!
Maestro_T. you took the words out of my mouth haha...so fucking irritating
funny in europe the vr6 was its own model next to the gti
then it came the 4wd vr6.
the european gti was slow and soft. i boght one as my 1st car because came out very cheap. later tried to trade it for other cars but nobody wanted it. mazda mx3, small peugeot, corolla... they were more nimble. my uncle had a Mk 2 golf GTI, i loved that car but he never accepted the change.
i nearly convinced a friend with a suzuki but changed mind after a test drive, the suzuki felt 500kg lighter but the difference was only 150.
that golf had incredibly safe handling but spoiled all the fun
obviously my friend changed mind, i really liked the small suzuki
In South Africa too
My guess is your GTI wasn't the 2.0 with 150hp as that thing pulled pretty good.
yes, it only had 115 or something but was a lazy engine. the renault, nissan and opel 2.0 had similar power but were faster. in a test i couldn't outrun the golf 1.6 with 100bhp.
those small 8 valves engines were indestructible and sometimes had more power at low rpm than the 16v of the time
My mother got me two Volkswagen full-line brochures both from 1995 and 1996 off of eBay in March 2016. I cannot get enough of liking the 3-door GTI VR6 when I look at them!
4:57 it's been over 20 years and the Sprite can design hasn't changed.
GT6SuzukaTimeTrials good eye
Nice Catch
I noticed that myself LOL
GT6SuzukaTimeTrials well coke cans have been much the same,
Good eye dude.
That's some impressive acceleration numbers
They aren't bad by today's standards tbh
Tool0GT92 Yes but it isn't acceleration that makes this car so special it's the handling of a sports car that really made people want it. Then you could tweak it to go faster with money saved.
xampx2k7 I can still beat it with my mom's car and it's from November 1998, the car would be 95K now a day's 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑😂👏👏👏
It isn't the handling of this car that makes it special. It's definitely the sound. A stock VR6 handles like a wet sponge.
JoJo Yes pretty much everything back then did though. My 1989 Corsica felt like an unsafe boat
those cloth seats are so aesthetic. I wish I could put those inserts in my '17 GTI
I had one in 97. bought it with 40k miles and had it my senior year in high school and up to my junior year in college. gsr integras honda hatchbacks were no match. id even give older mustangs a run for the money. great car and i sure miss it. I wish to find it in some car lot one day though the odds are slim to none.
Memories! I owned a '96 GTI VR6 back then and it was a great car but seemingly more of a gran tourer than an outright performance machine. After that, I got into a '99 Jetta VR6 which was more of the same but that all changed when I got into an '03 20th anniversary edition GTI. THAT was the car GTI's should have been with a huge dose of sportiness and handling. But still, I miss those days.
It's funny, I got a modern day Hot hatch with 200Bhp and it averages about 7 seconds 0-60. Just goes to show how bad weight can be.
some things aren't correct. It has a 12 valve engine and if it had a independent rear suspension it wouldnt do the "salute". Otherwise nice to see how these things were marketed arount the world. Especially the fact that the us-spec had cupholders and a arm rest with storage.. Couldnt dream of that in the german vr6
This is a 12 valve! 24v came to North America in MY2002.5+ only
thats what i was wondering about too... I was like... wait a minute, 24v in 95 :D
Armaan R that's what I thought. I think he got the hp correct at least. 172hp for the12v
I had a Mark 4 Golf 2.8 VR6, good motor, nice engine sound.
During the same year the Volvo 850 T-5R had a 2.3L 5 cylinder turbocharged engine that had 240 horsepower and went 0-60 in around 6 secs. Cheers!
The Volvo was also better built than the GTI! Even a ‘base’ 850 sedan would do 0-60 in under 9 seconds with the 5-speed manual and was fun to toss around corners. It was more like the GTI’s sensible big brother than anything VW was making at the time.
The 12 valve VR6 had 172 HP. The subsequent 24 valve VR6 had 201 HP. But the cars became heavier. So the 0-60 speed in the 24 valve GTI was about 6.5 seconds, whereas in the 12 valve GTI it was 6.7 seconds. Not much of a difference. I'm sure some of the modern day GTI's can hit 60 in just above 5 seconds, stock. Does anyone know which was or is the quickest GTI to date? Just curious.
@Marc A Thanks for that. I'm a fan of ALL the GTI's, from the Mk1 to current. The current GTI's are light and fast, but I still would rather drive a Mk1 or Mk2 GTI. I had a 'Tornado Red' Mk2 GTI (mid 80's, I believe), and it was a BLAST to drive, even though it only had a normally aspirated, 1.8 liter 110 HP motor. I'm 59 now, but I still remember the day I drove it off the dealer lot, after paying only $11,800 for it brand new. Good times!
this was my favorite car growing up, next to the corrado.
I have always wanted one of these, this generation specifically. I've yet to find one that hasn't been dogged or riced out unfortunately lol.
Did u get one yet?
I miss my MKIII Drivers Edition GTI VR6 Ginster yellow! That thing was sweet!
still got my 1993 vr6 :)
One of my “modern” dream cars...I was kinda obsessed with that engine.
"the traditional VW salut" LOL nice one.
The seats! LOOK AT THOSE SEATS! I would pay extra to get 90's patterns in a new car
My first car. Well, not quite...I had a '94 Golf with the base engine. And man, was it slow (in Canada, our base engine was a 1.8L with 90 HP). But it was black, two-door, and largely similar to what you see here. These had such superior fit and finish to every other small car on the market at the time. Of course, that meant nothing for reliability, but it sure looked and felt good.
Also you can't say shit about the economy, that engine never went bad and only delivered. I had 3 different 1.8L 89hp Golf 3's. Give it some more air with a nice sport filter, put on a growly exhaust pipe and watch it pick up all them looks from the bystanders, while at the same time, it costs you pretty much NOTHING to be that cool cause the engine runs like a lighter.
Just enough to keep you out of trouble, but still enough to be a little fun in that tiny thing.
Sorry buddy but what u had was nothing compared to the vr6 model the vr6 was a monster hatch back when it came out
I owned a jazz blue vr6 mk3 with a chip, was a 97 driver edition with deisel geeks shorty shifter. brings tears to my eyes boy do I miss my Ole wookie 😔
The VR6 sounds like a pack of bees when you put a SuperTrapp exhaust on it...sounds good.
I miss my '96 VR6. What a fantastic car. It had its' problems but meh. Made it from North of London to my home in Germany in 7 hours. Including ferry time from Dover to Calais. LOVED cruising @ 100mph, or more.
I had this same car in 1999, same interior, wheels but mine was Emerald Dragon Green.
Funny how these old school cars seem a lot more fun than new cars these days.
The edit of the clip in retro review is so smooth and well arranged than today's... most youtube review (other than motorweek i mean)
I was the proud owner of 1997 Euro spec GTi, loved it, and forever will have a soft spot for this car.
Man the GTI & GSR use 2 fight it out back in the day! Impressive 🚗💨 for back in the day! 👍👍 These videos always make me smile
24 valves..? Are you sure? Pretty sure all the Mk3 Golfs VR6s had 12 valves. The 24 valve was only introduced with the mk4.
Got one today and I'm building it for the quarter mile :D 13 second car with just bolt ons, I love it.
Wow how they made there videos back then brings back so many memories
I had a 93 Passat VR6 and a 95 Jetta VR6. Loved them both.
The editing and smoothness of showing the features in the car is actually kinda sweet considering how old this is. Very fluid made.
If you're new in making TH-cam vid's I'd highly recomend copying what they are doing.
I used to lift the rear tires in sharp turns in my 89' golf.
I had the 97 DRIVER'S EDITION version in Ginster Yellow, great car, but much better with H+R coilovers and a Borla TT exhaust :) Sounded great, but near as good as the MK4 R32 I replaced it with!
I love MotorWeek. Jon Davis is the man!!!
Nice. Playing Ace of Base Dont turn arround in the Radio!
Btw. I cant belive 15.0 in the quarter. I did a 15.0 with a Rabbit VR6 AWD 2.9 190hp. Motorweek tested the R32 with 14.5 and 240hp awd.
I rushed to the VW dealer to buy a 92 GTI 16v in late 92 before the MK3 was released. Couldn’t warm up to it’s Looks. It was a heavy car, with too much power features and was pricy.But yes, that VR6 is Sweet.
4000 miles. looks crazy on that mk3 cluster :o
That 95mph in the 1/4 is surprising.
Motorweek was about half a second and 5 mph optimistic versus the real world
I remember driving this car when new. Very powerful, but horrendous understeer in corners because of the heavy front.
My 95 GTI got taken out by a metal highway joint that raised up about 3 inches . Hit it doing about 65mph, bent all four rims and one of the rear shocks broke through the mounting point. Totalled the car, only had 50k miles on it
My first car 😍
in german, they swap the VR-6 in the MK2... the perfect sleeper and faster than the most Musclecars... :D
Great video! Next I want to see your 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R review
My first of 3 VWs was a 1995 GTI VR6 (Mulberry). Loved everything about it except the build quality.
It had 12 valves. Not 24. The MK4 VR6 later had 24 vlaves.
Corrrect!
Not known as the most desirable GTI but it's a relic of those awesome years of automotive industry. When being a fun car was still important
love that whacky 90's print on the seat inserts.
Wow! This GTi has options that my ‘98 Golf GL doesn’t have. Luxury!
back when motorweek didn't seem to like any manual transmission and now here we are in 2017 praying to even _get_ a manual option in a new car
Legendary car with a long, respected pedigree! One of the most fun cars i've ever owned (and i've owned many).
@AudiophileTubes - pedigree? Cars such as Lancia Delta and Audi Quattro have pedigree. All this has is a reputation.
spavatch GTI is a Pedigree car
@@spavatch You're 'splitting hairs' spavatch. Of course, the GTI has a long pedigree. It arose from the popular 'Rabbit' platform at the time, then morphed into many subsequent generations of the 'hot hatch' over time. I think we are at 8th gen currently. And it's been around for decades. Need I say more?
One of the best cars ever made, only thing could have better handling or better tired lower suspension but best car
Funny I am in the process of giving this exact car a new life. Even has these mint seats!!! So excited!!!
Volkswagens give me a chill any time I have to fix one.All their cars have strange problems.
they have "strange" parts too
IN OTHER WORDS, VW is crap nowadays///
Jeff Eppenger I'm sorry but that's simply made up. I understand that you like VW and it's completely fine to like them, but don't give us such bullshit man.
Firstly VWs have never been known for their fun-to-drive factor. This is why you'll find people that want fun cars buying the Ford Focus or the Mazda 3. Just watch car channels reviewing the Focus ST or RS, they're smiling like a bunch of retards. You don't get the same smile in the GTI or R. This makes me think you haven't had the chance to drive a lot of cars aside from VW. In their market and price segment, VWs are known for their laid back and classy character rather than the fun to drive factor.
Secondly, the amount of tech in today's cars drives reliability down, yes, but don't attribute this to German overengineering, it's simply because of cheaper parts or designs that are not so well thought out. The Audi Q3 is one of the most reliable cars you can find nowadays, and so is the Toyota RAV4 and the new Seat Leon. They are all absolutely loaded with technology yet they're still reliable. VW have simply shit the bed lately in terms of reliability, just like Ford (European) for example. Both German. Yet Audi and Seat hold the bar high, and ironically enough they're owned by VAG.
Just note that I'm not saying this to bash you, your conclusions are simply wrong and I think you're being too subjective.
The one thing we can agree on is the fact that older cars were much better built. Man those things last ages and so did the cars from the 2000-2005 era. I somehow doubt that today's cars are going to last that long.. They just don't feel as well built.
The '14 Corolla I had as a rental had a CVT...
I wasn't referring to German cars in general, I was referring strictly to VW. You simply cannot compare VWs to the likes of Fords, Audis or BMWs when it comes to fun factor. The difference is so big this isn't even a subjective topic, even though it is at its core. There's just no way VW is a contender in the fun to drive space when Ford exists in the exact same space that VW does. That's Ford's main selling point in Europe.
I haven't had bad experiences with German cars, quite the opposite actually. I don't really think I'd buy anything else but German or Swedish (maybe some Italian, I like the new Alfas) at the moment.
I'll give you some credit regarding innovations, the Asian market does tend to copy. But you massively dropped the ball when you gave safety as an example. The automotive safety industry has been spearheaded by Volvo (Swedish) for a very long time, not by VAG or any other German manufacturer.
And you are definitely not giving the Asians enough credit. The Mazda RX-7 was a handling marvel, made possible by the Wankel engine which could be placed very low and towards the back in the engine compartment due to its size. The Germans didn't even dare touch that engine, so you should give the Asians some credit.
The Lancer was never known for its fun to drive factor either. Maybe you misunderstand me, I'm not saying that the Evo or the GTI are abhorrently boring to drive. They can't be, they're sports cars after all. But since you already own a GTI, if you'd hop into a Focus ST for a spin you'd see what I'm talking about. Those reviewers I mentioned earlier are grinning like idiots for good reason.
I’ve always loved the GTI since this one because of that Speed Racer commercial which promoted the GTI.
Golf 3 drives by my house as I'm watching this, what a coincidence lol...
That was me. Do you normally watch television in the nude?
For 1995 that was pretty advanced features, and for 18 000$ wow
These Retro Review gives life
Too bad they don't make 3-door GTIs anymore.
Not in North America anyway.
Ianna Matney that's because they sat on the lots and nobody bought them
allmotorkp61 really, I thought they would attract single people and not the 4-Door models.
We get them in europe. :) VW Up! GTI, VW Polo R, Golf GTI ClunSport, Renault Megane RS and Peugeot 208 GTI etc...
Ianna Matney I've seen them...but most are 5 door
Holy shit they are still doing up and forward/down and back for the seat motion!!!
Cool car, a good friend of mine has 3 of this but the GTI 2.0 with 16V.
I love my 92 GRI 16v. Best GTI ever.
solid but light car with a lovely engine, still miss mine!
Since when did the mk3 have a 24v engine or independent rear suspension?
38 thumbs down are 38 people that never owned a VR6!
Can you please upload a review of the 2nd generation Passat?
I miss 3 door hot hatches
Why ? They still make it
@@hondamanvtec2894 actually they dont exept the mini cooper maybe
Have you guys done a Mitsubishi Cordia or Tredia?
Those seats scream 90's attitude lol
Motorweek and Top Gear are my best motorprogrames
Great car!!!
the most underrated tuner ever!
Wow so long lasting paint was an optional extra?
Clear coat an option? So is the paint single stage if you don't get the clear coat option?
I think he meant what color of clear coat you choose.
Vercus100 clear cote has no colour, that's why it's called clear cote lol. I guess he means you can choose different colour paint, I'm in UK and AFAIK all of ours had cleacote on top, I had a highline which came in black or a lovely purple colour with matching leather. I ended up supercharging it at 12 psi without even intercooling it or touching the compression, I literally did nothing apart from shove more air in,
320 bhp and 275 lb ft made it great and pretty quick too, the engines are bomb proof!
That suspension tho
Bounce bounce bounce
3:54 'party mix' seats!
1:20 No, they don't have 24 valves. They have 12 valves. The later model Golf mk4 VR6 has 24 valves
In 1997, I had the choice of a new blue GTI or a new White Passat VR6. The conservative slant in me chose the slush box Passat. STILL wish I had bought the GTI.
How was the vr6 in passat?
This grin is now like the unicorn. It’s so hard to see one now
God i love the growling VR6!!!
Wow, so the manual GTI never really got noticeably faster until recently.
Because they are obesely overweight fat cars now.
We have an extra green mk3 gti in my vacation house and hasn’t run in a couple years, and we’re planning on selling it… but now I want to fix it so we don’t sell It(but I’m 14 so it’s not gunna be ez)😬
1:20 - "Dual overhad cams drive twenty-four valves..." Hehehe, cheeky VW with their "DOHC" 12v "V6" that uses the same firing order as an I6 and has a crossflow head. I think a three-quarters of the automotive enthusiast community misunderstood this engine :)
Beauty lid Ben!
I think it was a 12 valve V6 not 24 valve as they said in the 1:22. Also the only reason it is DOHC is since it is a V6 that shares one cylinder head. Strange engine, I don't know if they should have just made it an inline 6.
Wait, my GTE does not close the windows and sunroof automatically! Why does the 1995 one?
clear coat paint optional?
2800lbs haha, where did they come up with that? mine tipped the scales at 3200 and I had the rear seats out
It's dual overhead cams but it's not 24valves
Nice lid Ben.
Actually this VR6 engine was a SOHC V6 engine. A DOHC version was added later with 201hp(versus 172-178hp for the SOHC version).
Vw Foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I love my black 3d VW Golf mk3 from 8 years :)