What Is So Special About A VR-6 Engine?
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- The VR-6 engine is a mysterious one and hides some clever engineering inside itself. There are most definitely many interesting aspects about it and it is a shame that it was such an engineering revolution as it looked to be from first sight.
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Is it only me or the VR6 really sounds crispier than regular inline 6?
VR engines (especially the ones from vag) are known for their special crispy sound... a lots of poeple (including me) think they are the best sounding 6 cylinders on the market
Owned a 1993 golf vr6 (stock exhaust) - they really do sound good.
They sound like an absolute fart can sometimes.. 🤣
I wonder why they burble/rasp like that? V6's (Nissan VQ) also share it too but less intense, but an Inline 6 (2JZ or B58) sounds very smooth. I assume its because V engines have an odd number of 3 cylinders per bank??
@@Josh-qm4rb their extraordinary sound comes form the difference in length of the inlet and exhaust tubes for the left and right cilinderbanks. I love the sound 😍
The vr6 is one of the best engine noises of all time in my opinion. Also you may not know as you didn't mention in the video but Mercedes Benz also used a 2.8 VR6 engine in the early Vito vans best sounding van ever 😜
It did, but somehow forgot about it later during the video production
@@VisioRacer yeah awesome video anyway dude I really like your content 😄👍
He may not have mentioned it here but look at all of his videos. It seems most are engine related and they look very interesting. I subscribed. This is a good channel.
You ain't kidding
Beautiful ❤️
The VR6 is one of the best sounding engines ever. Just wish they weren't so involved to build up.
Like a woman purring if it where a car 😂
@@ernestpaniagua1210 better than every woman xD
I've owned an mk4 vr6 hatch for 18 years basically for the sole reason of how it sounds. NEVER EVER GETS OLD.
I have a 911 and a 24v GTI and I’m always grabbing the keys to the VW. Drove up and down Lake Erie shoreline Saturday and you can hear the wookie echoing through the trees lol.
The fact they fitted a VR6 into a forklift fascinates me
And here I was, thinking I knew every variant of the VR6 engine. Thanks again for this great educational video. Now excuse me, I have to get me a forklift.
It is my pleasure
As an owner of a Golf VR5, I can say the sound of this engine is just amazing, I honestly love it 😍
Vr5 owner here aswell, addicting sound 🙃
Lmao totaly agree...my vr5 lives in a seat thoughXD
Vr5 isn't the same
@@Wargwarn the sound is just as good
Had a 1993 mk3 VW golf VR6 2.8 174hp - great engine, fast for it’s time, had great engine sound and was quite fuel efficient when driven reasonably. A friend of mine had a 2000 VW Passat vr5 2.3L 150hp - that was crap - neither fast nor fuel efficient. Great video as always!
I own a seat toledo with a 20v vr5 and i can tell you the 20v engine is awesome it has 170hp and needs 8-10 liters per 100kilometers depending on your driving style the car always surprises me when i can keep up with newer sportier cars on the autobahn. I think the combination of the "weak" 10v and the heavier chassis of the passat just made it a "bad combination"
Mk3 vr6 >>>
I agree, i still have it .
love how simple you explain things for people who dont have know how of engines so anyone can understand, but also ones who know alot about the workings of engines are still indepth about there workings, thanks again for the wonderful videos
I owned a Fulvia for a few years and had a lot of trouble explaining the engine layout to people. But if I referred to the engine as "basically a Volkswagen VR6 with 4 cylinders" the suddenly knew what it meant.
Wasn't it easier to just call it a VR4?
@@satsumagt5284 I did call it that sometimes to try to help explain. Though Lancia merely referred to their engine as a "narrow angle V4" at the time. The VR name hadn't been invented until Volkswagen introduced the VR6.
@@krudmuphinstudioz The term VR is a VW invention, and did not exist in the earlier Lancia iteration of these engines.
I believe that is because VW wanted to emphasize the 6-cylinders-in-4-cylinder space in their marketing, by calling the concept literally "V-Inline", which translated phonetically to {Fau-Reihe} and alphabetically to "VR". The letter V is called "Fau" in the German alphabet, just as Y is called "Ipsilon"!
Eg. {Fau-Wee} when they speak of {Vee-Double-U}
Had a used VR 6 3.6 2008 Passat loved that car for several years just traded it 2 years ago
Hi,so they are/were nitwits in area of engine design.
Been driving Volkwagen since 1989 and the R32 has become my favorite. My first was a mk1 GTI and I can still remember that car surprised a LOT of people off the line, or rolling down the highway. My Mk5 R32 gets much more of the same reaction. The VR6 engine paired up with a DSG is just an absolute kick in the pants to drive. It's insane what output you can get from a VR6 with any level of modification, and yes, the wookie sound is quite iconic.
If you like the R32 you should look up the guy who put the Passat R36 engine in his R32 its insane
The vr6 3.2l also came in the audi tt mk1(2003-2006) making 247bhp that was paired with a DSG transmission. Also the vr6 3.2l came in the audi tt mk2(2006-2014) which had the same horsepower number, but came with a option 6 speed transmission.
I seen the audi a3 was mentioned, but I wanted to feel included too.
Thank you for hoisting that TT 3.2 DSG flag, now I can get off the screen and onto the wrenches, all kindsa motivated!
i was also waiting for him to speak about the 3.2 VR6 which is an incredible engine. it's almost comparable to the 2JZ in terms of achievable power with stock parts
We've had two cars with vr6 engines..a golf r32 for about 12 years...no engine issues and a passat r36 which I've had about 6 years and no engine issues.
They both averaged about 28 mpg and sounded great. I'm hoping to keep the passat for another 5 years, mainly because of that engine, i think. Favourite engines of all cars I've had.
Let's go to learn some very interesting things ☺️
Yes, let’s.
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I love how versatile this engine is too. It can be put in a little hatchback or my big Atlas and run exceptionally well, sound great, and have good reliability.
I had a 12v vr6 mk4 Jetta loved that car beautiful sound
Not to complicated to rebuild did in driveway
@@2wheelfeel93if you thrash one so hard that it needs a rebuild ur very good at destroying cars....most of the ttimes all they need is chaines
lol naw blew a radiator house going down highway over heated and the lifters started ticking has 200000 on it needed timing chain and guides clutch to be done so went all in while I was there and that’s why it was rebuilt
That’s the car I currently have right now, it was a gift to me, and I am trying to make it a project car, but first I need to replace the speed sensor and there’s something no wrong with the solenoid, need to look more into it, but I’ll find it
The wife's old Mk4 vr6 Jetta we bought in 2001 was sitting in the garage for about 8yrs before I dug in for the timing chains and make it roadworthy again.
Then I went and got a Smyth kit and that's what's happening now.
She hasn't seen it yet ,and I haven't really let on.
She can figure it out when I pull in the driveway (hopefully) sometime this spring 😁
A huge thank you for your video: by far the best, most complete about the VR6. I rode in GOLF III VR6 from the age of 28 to the age of 39: a wonderful car in more ways than one, thanks to this engine. I thought I knew his story very well but you have -again- impressed me! The most fun is the forklift truck from LINDE. I wish your channel a long life!
Thank you, Frédéric!
I own one from 30 to now, age 38. It's my daily since then and love it. Keeps putting a smile on my face every time I drive it.
W engines by VW were essentially two VR engines joined at an angle. I believe the W8 in the Passat had a 72 degree V angle.
True but the W8 was a terrible engine all the complexity none of the reliability (heads and timing chain & tensioner design issues)
Had one
The W8 was essentially 2 VR4s
Had a 2000 GTI VR6, got it chipped for 2 step and gosh damn that thing sounded crazy. Hands down best sounding engine I've ever heard. Miss that car but was too expensive to fix.
The first car I bought when I was in Dubai was a mk4 V6 4 motion with a vr6 engine, felt very special and sounded great
Love your channel! And todays upload is awesome. This is absolutely one of the best summaries of this engine configuration I have seen! Thank you and please keep up the good work!
Thanks for explaining this engine! I just recent bought a B7 Passat with the VR6 and every noise that comes out of it is music to my ears, I knew a little bit about it but this further explained it
Glad I could help!
I had no idea! Thanks again for posting the different and unusual engines.
Thank you very much for these videos you do it is fascinating to see the history and how things have turned out!
Awesome video! I discovered your channel a little while ago and you have taught me so much
Never should have sold my Golf R32 😕
U never should have stopped crying since ur always gonna look for something to cry about. :/
@@lylesloth1275 U mad bro?
U can cry 2 cuz you wont eva own 1, dawg 🤣
@@movinmetal2596 if u think im mad, well ima tell u right now i aint incase u start crying out of fear. And i aint planning to own ur engine, it already got enough bad rep of being associated to kids who likes to cry and are too overparented to commit into appreciating how their engines work and end up selling it like a gen z beta, like you. U are about to cry, hold up let me leave first. :/
@@lylesloth1275 Think we touched a nerve here, fellas.
Let’s see what other recessive trauma is lurking in this damaged brain lol
@@movinmetal2596 u probably think that way too when it comes to working on cars, thinking itll trigger a brain trauma damage if u work on ur golf r32 engine and thinking it needs too much brain power, hence why u sold it and can only cry about it now, tsk tsk tsk. smh
I'm fortunate enough to have had the pleasure of driving the Golf VR6 Highline (circa 96 model) a few times. It sounded awesome.
Belonged to my boss who later sold it on to a workmate.
Cool content VR. Thanks 👍
Wow awesome history! I didn't know all of the different versions of the vr6 and how many vehicles actually used it. It is one of my top 3 favorite engines.
Iv got the 3.2 in my b6 passat estate, iv had it 7 years n still puts a smile on my face when I hear it accelerating
Cool Video! I own a Passat b7 with the VR 3.6. It's a cool engine but it have a significant powerloss over time due to sooting of the intake tract. I think the problem was not so severe with the old ones with intake manifold injection. (sry for my bad english i hope it's written correct enough^^)
Common modern issue with every direct port engine
Your English is great Sir.
@@chrisoconnor3119 thanks 🤩
@@nicokessler6120 what other languages do you speak? I think your English is as good as mine and I speak only english.
@@chrisoconnor3119 i speak (swiss)german, we learn french at school. You could choose english as second but i didn't^^
My all-time favorite engine sound comes from a VR6. Also my 3.6 Passat CC literally waters my mouth every time I accelerate a bit harder, the sound is just SO FUCKING AMAZING. Co-worker had some trouble understanding the engine layout when I told him about it, though. :D
hey i have a passat vr6 as well and it’s a 2013. so you know much about them?
@@akapaxed7845 Not really, just some stuff I've read online, parroting that information. :D
Good summary! You could have added the W12 / W8 engines, they are the largest VR type engines Volkswagen ever made, as the W12 is basically 2 VR6 enginges on the same crankshaft.
Next time perhaps
What about the Lambo W engine the badest of all.
Absolutely love my Passat GT with VR6. Added cold air induction kit and it added a few hp and it roars!
I have a 2001 Bora V6 4motion with the AUE VR6 love that car, brilliant sound to it. Also have a 2004 Passat W8 as well.
Oh I miss the sound of the VR6.
I miss my old 1997 Jetta GLX VR6. The engine was bomb proof and sounded amazing! The best sounding version was the original found in the Corrado and MK3 GTI and Vento/Jetta due to its aluminum intake manifold. The later versions had a plastic intake manifold which muffled the sound!
Just crank my vr6 up a few minutes ago just to hear that vr6 sound! Love that sound!
Well I certainly thought that VW created the VR engine until this video! Thank you for teaching me something new!
I owned a 2010 Golf with the 2.5 VR5 and it was incredible. Zero issues ever and it went through Buffalo, NY winters. I have a 24v VR6 GTI now and it’s been just as reliable.
good job, my man 👍👍
someone finally mentioned the original lancia vr6.
most VAG lovers believe that it's a VW patent and exclusive to their german boat-cars..
Wow, super cool. I love how crafty we can be
your videos are just great, ty for all the effort
Thanks!
The staggered inline, single cylinder head design is probably my favorite. How cool would a 4.0L VR8 making 450HP be? Bet it would sound amazing, and the maintenance is so easy to do on these because it's like working on an inline engine.
Staggered and in line? It can’t be both…. It’s on a single crank but two separate planes the pistons are operating in so in my eyes, this is a ‘V’ design but the angle is so tight it can have 1 cylinder head , a normal inline 6 cylinder is waaay smoother and sounds like a normal 6 but this does not, it sounds ‘lumpy’ like a V6….🤷♂️
i love the sound and peformance of my 2007 VW R32 with its VR6, amazing stock standard 4x4 car, cant beat it on my local roads over mountain..
Nice video with some interesting details!
VR6 sounds so awesome...😎 Especially MK4 and MK5 R32 with Milltek exhaust.
This video was amazing. Saving this one. 👍
Just a small tip on car model pronunciation, Leon is not pronounced Lyon as the city in France, but as Leon, the city in Spain.
Great video👍 thank you
This is a very good layout, cant belive is not so popular
I know lift trucks are rear steering but the smoothness of that accelerated turn looked like a sweet drift
Good video.... What is the relation of turning radius with engine profile (straight or V) ?
Thanks.
When I heard Lancia v4 I instantly saw the fulvia in my mind
I have a Mk4 VW Jetta GLI (First owner) and a 2013 Porsche 991.1 C2S. Both manuals. Both are a lot of fun!
I had a manual B4 Passat with 174 bhp VR6 engine 15 years ago - it was a real BLAST to drive, i'm still nostalgic and i drive BMW M5 now lol :)))
I miss my old Golf 4 with v6 and 4 motion. It was so fun to drive.
Just sending out a thankz ,,,
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Thanks, David!
Hi! Thank you for making the best VR6 explain video! My car has the 280hp 3.6 vr6 engine, do you know if it's possible to upgrade it for 300hp?
My family used to have a VW Multivan 4 Motion with the 3.2 litre 6 speed manual. Glorious sound especially at cold sartup, then it had this guttural R, like half a Lambo. When we first got it it had some vibration issues with the drive shafts for the front axle, but this was balance tuned to fix the issue. BUT it would probably have been way more driveable with a torqey diesel, rather than chasing those revs all the time -fun times anyhow. I could actually lure it down to around 10 litres/100km at the highway. Miss that freak.
the V4 has a lot of sense in a 2 strokes uniflow overcharged engine
even with its 90° offset between piston and firing interval
i like how this video included the lesser knows facts as well finnaly a one stop vr6 info video :P
The ol 12v vr6 isnt the greatest breather, but she sounds good.
It was made so it'll fit in place of a 4 cylinder, not necessarily performance.
A turbo will fix that, as going NA is very expensive.
The sound they make is quite intoxicating.
There's a guy on here with one in a mk3 that runs 11s no turbo, he's proven everyone wrong that you can't go fast with an NA, but it's been developed to what it is over many years.
8:52 that bike sounds amazing!
My friend owns a straight piped golf 4 vr6 2.8 12v and ut sounds amazing😁
Vr6 was a beast the first time i sat in a burgundy with factory bbs alloys. The noise is unforgetable
You teach me so much, thank you!
Golf Mk3 VR6 and Golf Mk4 R32 appeared at our gas station. They look very cool and sound even better
The sound is just heavenly....
Long live the VR6! I’d also love to hear a V4 Lancia in real life.. and that VR Linde forklift too;-)
Love my 2010 CC with the 3.6 VR6 :)
Appia have the narrov V angle - 10°14’, Fulvia has 12°53’28” ; good video!
Just because of this video...
You sir! You are subscribed!
A lot of hugs from Portugal!
A VR6 engine in a forklift truck?? Now I've heard everything!
yeah I was also surprised, but it also makes sense. More cilinders means more torque at lower rpm, and with the low combustion given by Lpg you need as many as possible. Also fits into a small space
Had a 2003 TT 3.2 V6 beautiful sound.
Heard the VR6 was also conceived as a 2.4-litre 24v during its development before being enlarged to 2.8-litres 12v by the time it reached production.
It is also in the mk1 audi tts, and possibly the mk2 as well I cannot remember. I have an 04 mk1 audi tt quattro and it is so much fun, I like the 3.2 vr6 over the 1.8 any day.
good job man! Yeah that immobilzer would of been horrible to have to do all that work and that be the issue !! awesome job man
The Vr6 engine sounds amazing one of my favorite for sure. Is it possible for a flat plane crank vr6? Sorry I’m kicking this around in my head. Thanks for your patience.
That lancia sounded HEALTHY 🐎
one of the exklusive ways of owning a VR6;is the Artega GT which has the 3.6 VR6 as a mid Engine and rear wheel Drive.
I had no idea this car existed. Thanks. It does indeed seem to tick all the right boxes, besides the price and the looks. I'll stick to a bora/jetta anytime
BMC's Duncan Stuart developed an experimental Lancia-inspired 18-degree SOHC V4/V6 engine family that used a toothed rubber belt to drive a centrally-mounted camshaft, being conceived at the behest of Leonard Lord from about 56-58 (who wanted to replace BMC's various engines with a common engine family - the later E-Series being conceived for a similar unrealistic purpose) before being cancelled in late-62. The V4 was tested in a 1.1 and 2.0 forms (in the likes of the MGA, first MGB prototype and possibly even one A40 Farina in 1.1 form), though the V6 remained a paper project. The BMC 18-degree V4/V6 project however was dropped because of its alleged bulk/weight, inability to be mounted transversely in the upcoming FWD 1100/1300 and 1800/2200 (only longitudinally Triumph 1300 style - unlike the VW VR6), reputedly sounding rough by MG engineer Syd Enever who disliked the uneven exhaust note of the V4 configuration, being too costly to develop (and the cost of requiring a thorough refit of the Longbridge engine production facilities) as well as once the A-Series engine proved capable of being enlarged from 948cc to 1098cc (later 1275cc).
don't forget the v8 vr known as the w8 and w12. it is 2 vr 4's in a v motor, or a vr in a v combination. great motors.
I used to own a V5 golf ... the original 10v version ... I had it re mapped and stuck a miltek exhaust on it... back in the day I thought it was amazing & fast ... but by today’s standards it was gutless & thirsty ... still... it sounded good & I loved it for about 6 years!
Maravilhoso ,eu sou do Brazil cidade do Rio de janeiro e meu amigo tem um Golf GTi MK3 1995 VR6 que é coisa de outro mundo ,o carro é uma máquina fico imaginando o VR6 turbinado 🇧🇷💪
somebody help me please. at 5:45 what is that piston thing connected to the bottom right part of the intake manifold. it’s on the bottom right corner of the screen below the oil cap. i forgot what it’s called and mine is broken causing a vaccum leak
Just a little hint VR actually stands for "versetzte reihe" stupidly translated as "not-inline-inline" @visioracer :) great work as always
Something to note: the 2.8 VR6 was only FWD. While the 2.9 VR6 was always coupled to a 4motion (4WD) drive train. VW did this to compensate for the loss of powering 2 wheels more.
Corrado vr6 was a 2.9 and fwd.
So miss my excellent car that even made it into the Euro tuner magazine in the late 90s. I had MK4 Rave Green 2.8L VR6 excellent, manual shift, lowered,heated and leather seats,new headers,cold air intake, full exhaust, 18in BBS rims, carbon fiber hood glass HID headlights leather interior much more more just magazine talk lol. Euro tuned up batch's, shaded black back taillights. My challenge is only the nice R32 3.2L VR's in races. ✌️
Cool design there.
I have 3.6Liter VR6 300HP N/A and its best sounding 6cyl engine I ever heard. And everybody who went with my car said the same ♥️♥️
Always thought they were such a badass motor design. Had one in my VW Touareg. That while car is over engineered for the USA. Damn thing it was fast. AWD too
Id love to hear about the GM LF3/LF4 3.6 TT from you!
When I bought my Corrado a couple decades ago I knew from its earliest G60 problems that it was destined for the swap
I still have my 92 but it's a 97 GTI under it all
Maybe when I retire I'll do the turbo Quattro conversion but it'll always be a sweet sounding VR6
Loved my vr6s wish I was quicker with my chain guides.
A custom VR-8 would be incredible if one ever existed.
Bugatti chiron has Double VR8 😆
Lancia Trikappa (1922)
Very interesting Vid. You dont should be forget the Audi tt 3.2 VR6
What is the bore spacing on these ?
Another great video. Why do these narrow angle Vs sound so good?
Firing sequence and position of the pistons.
I have this 4:54 2.8L 200 hp VR6 engine in my 2004 MKIV GTI. Engine code BDF. The engine requires premium 91 octane fuel. Regular fuel (87 octane) is inadequate. I'm interested in understanding why you believe regular fuel is suitable for this engine.
Just came here to brag about the fact I owned a 2.8L VR6 Passat and currently own a 3.6L VR6 Touareg. It’s the best engine to have been produced. I’m surprised other manufacturers haven’t taken this model.