The wife overheard me listening to this episode and was giving me the stink eye and said, "You don't hunt, you don't need a new shotgun"...😂 you guys are getting me in trouble.
Grandpa got a Winchester 1200 in 16 when he turned 14 years old. When I turned 14, he handed it down to me. Kills everything I point it at, and everyone I’ve allowed to shoot it immediately begins their quest to buy their own 16. I’m super stoked to see big channels talk about the 16, let’s solidify its place in the mainstream.
Oh man, I learned to shoot clays as a young kid on my grandpa's 16 gauge model 1200 too. There's such an emotional connection to the gauge now that he's been gone for almost two decades. I think of him often when I'm out hunting with a 16.
"Drilling" is in fact pronounced as you did initially, i.e. as you would read it as an English word. You are correct though, that the German word for 3 is "Drei", which you also pronounced correctly. We appreciate the effort! Keep up the good work. Greetings from Germany.
My grandpa's gun of choice was a late 50s 16 gauge Wingmaster, he was a big pheasant hunter in upstate NY. I'll be taking it out for squirrels this weekend. When I was a kid at one point it was all I had for deer hunting.
My wife gave me a 16ga Jc Higgins bolt action for our first Christmas as a married couple and I have to say I love it! The 16 does everything I need it to and it not too much gun to carry for hours in the field.
I absolutely love the 16 guage and for all the reasons the Jim was explaining when he was explaining a legacy watch. My granoa taught me to shoot clays on a model 1200 in 16 guage and the gun is still in the fanily to this day. I bought my wife an ithica model 37 feather weight in 16 gauge shortly after we were married so she could hunt with it. I think I paid less than $200 for it but it's by far my favorite shotgun we own purely for the uniqueness of the bottom feed/bottom eject action and for it being a 16 guage. Thank you for doing an episode on this ”lead ballon” haha it was super fun.
First off, nice to see you guys talking smoothbores! I have two 16’s; my dad’s A5 Sweet from the late 60’s and my maternal grandfather’s model 12 from the 40’s. The comparison to quality mechanical watches is spot on with quality firearms. If you want to just have a smoke pole, the 870 is standard edition. If you want to just tell time from your wrist a Timex carries the load. Lastly, the 16 is to shot guns that the 25-06 is to rifles for me.
I recently 'inherited' my dad's 16 ga. Remington 1100, it has a 30" non-ribbed barrel with a fixed Improved Cylinder choke. He bought it new in 1968, the year before I was born, and it was his dedicated Dove gun. He's 82 now and hasn't been on a Dove shoot in more than a decade but it still cycles shells just fine, although now it favors a little heavier shot load.
I have a Browning Sweet Sixteen that I've had for 58 years. My dad gave it to me for Christmas when I was 11 years old. I can't imagine the number of cases of shells fired thru that shotgun. This was small town South Carolina and you could carry your shotgun on the school bus and put the gun in the corner of the classroom. I would go out to a friend's farm or he would come out to my farm. We shot dove, duck, quail, and deer. I have two barrels. 26" IMP and 28" Mod. The shotgun cost $198 back then. We kept 2-3 bird dogs, pointers and setters. We also hunted on horseback in those days. Those were the good ole days.
I had an old Ithaca 16ga SxS I sold earlier this year. I love the cartridge and it was a beautiful gun that had just been refurbished when I bought it, but the stock dimensions didn’t fit me at all so I didn’t shoot it well. Don’t regret getting rid of it for that reason, but I would like to find another 16 SxS, an old LC Smith would be the top of my list
My best friend in high school had a 16 gauge Mossberg bolt action with a C-Lect choke on it. It was common back in 1972 to see bolt action shotguns, double barreled shotguns, and single shots in 16 gauge back then. The 20 gauge took over the 16 gauge slot with American hunters. When I was stationed in Germany, the 16 gauge competed with the 12 gauge in popularity. I have picked up an old Winchester single shot in 16 gauge and about four boxes of shells.
My dad’s has always loved his Ithaca featherlight 16 gauge!! Many of grouse , doves and rabbits and chukars have been taken by his!! Really enjoy these talks great podcast
Had 2 an 870 and a single shot loved them both sorry I sold them because of divorce but was just recently given an Ithaca side by side in nickel finish that I plan on taking out for the first time for pheasant this weekend. Great show as always keep up the good work!!
I bought a 37 featherweight for my wife years ago for almost nothing. Such a cool gun with the factory engraving on both sides of the receiver. It's one of my favorite guns I own.
Jim, holy crap! I thought I was the only one who counted syllables and words! Any team jersey I buy, I always got #16 for that exact reason, always counting words and syllables in fours, and it always feels cleanest at 4 by 4 to get 16.
My grandfather gave my uncle his military issue Winchester 1897, 16g, takedown pump action. When I learned about it 10 years ago, I had a difficult time finding shells for it.
We had some single shot 16ga back in the 70s that were our go-to shotguns for everything from whitetails to turkeys to squirrels. Then the ammo ran out. Granted, we also used 20ga for everything, too. 12ga was a little big for squirrels but these days, if you're using steel, you kind of need a 12ga to reach up to the tops of some of the pecan and oak trees around where I grew up.
After listening to this podcast I decided to look and see if my favorite shotgun came in a 16 gauge. It’s the Browning BPS, to my dismay 😩 I instead find out that browning has discounted all models of the BPS😢… I believe that the BPS at least deserves a ten minute talk… and you are the gentleman to do it. Don’t let me and all the BPS lovers down.
Love the talk, always interested in 16 but with 3" 20 gauge shells available and virtually no 16 gauge to be found in my area the 20 and 12's get the nod. Mark @37:54, a couple years ago I would have agreed with you completely but after buying a really nice shotgun from an older gentleman he once said "it's a shame I didn't hunt with it much, it's a tool and something that nice should get used." that has stuck with me. Don't be afraid to enjoy nice things with you can.
My very first...a vintage Sauer & Sohn side-by-side in 16 gauge, a former collectors item...I love it! Feels perfect.And 16 gauge supposedly (!) patterns better than the equivalent load in 12 gauge.
They're really stepping up the game today. Not content with the usual 30 minutes, this #10minutetalk turns out up to 42 minutes. Also, 16ga is absolutely the perfect shotgun gauge.
@@chipsterb4946 I bet it would be! I really want to get one for Kentucky. We have a decent population of bobwhite here as well as ruffed grouse and some woodcock. Would be perfect for all of them!
My 2nd shotgun was a Remington 870 16 ga. that I grew to love much more than my 1st the 12 ga. 870. Before my father passed he gave me his Remington Model 11-48 16 ga. another great 16 ga. shotgun. I agree with Ryan whole-heartedly that the 16 ga. is the perfect pheasant gun. While I've used the 16 ga. for ruffed grouse and other upland game, now days whenever I am headed to the field for pheasants one of these 16 ga. shotguns are in my hand. The most versatile ga. in my opinion.
I would love it if you guys made a full video on the 224 valkyrie. I think it's a very underrated cartridge. You guys have mentioned it in other videos but never in much detail
A case study on how NOT to launch a new cartridge. Base it on an odd size case that never took off. Rush it to market and fumble the initial bullet offering. Cause confusion with chamber specs and roll out bad reamers. Give it an obscure name. Hard to overcome all that. I have it in a bolt gun and am a fan. And I agree it is fading fast. Saw the writing on the wall and saved all my fired brass. Great idea, lousy execution. 22ARC should be the final nail in the coffin.
I've thought about it a lot. I went into a Cabela's about 3 years ago and saw a Browning Sweet Sixteen. Man it was a beautiful gun. Not many have stuck with me like that. I have list of future acquisitions and that's on the list.
On the way home from SD as I’m listening to this. My grandpa passed on a 16 gauge 870 to me when he passed. I’ve killed a few pheasants with it. Thanks for the podcast
Hello boys, my Illuminati influenced rear brain is all in on the ho-hum return of the 16g. A Browning A5 magically appeared in my safe one day and managed to spawn 3more sxs’s within a year. You have to admire the color purple(16’s common case color) in order to be a part of the club. Also, I used to wear a watch but found myself looking at my phone for the time. The watch now resides next to my 12 gauge. Thanks for the show and the laughs. Kevin
Thanks for talking about the 16 guys. It's my personal favorite. I shoot a bolt action mossberg 190KB. Best 50 bucks I ever spent. Even frilled and tapped it for a scope so it shot slugs effectively. PS Mark buy a 16 or a 28
Great show! When I think of Vortex, I think of rifle scopes and pistol optics. Shotguns are my first love in firearms. I love new and old shotguns alike. My sixteen gauge is an old Remington 11-48. It's not incredibly valuable, but it was the arm that took my first turkey on my dream property.
While y’all were primarily focused on birds and small game, many people use shotguns for hogs and deer. Especially those in the southeast. We actually use dogs to run deer in SC. One of the most popular shotguns is the Belgium Browning A5’s. From the std 12 to Light Twelve to std 16 to SweetSixteen. The 16 is extremely popular because the A5’s for some reason hold a great pattern of buckshot. My dad used his SweetSixteen from 1959 to 2011 when I gave him a Belgium A5 Light 12. While there are light semiautomatic 12’s, many people still trust the 16 because of its smaller frame when walking through thickets. Keep in mind, our idea of thickets is wwwwaaaayyyyy different than many areas of the country. Our thickets, if you can see 10ft, it’s fairly open.
Oh man that 16/16/8 Mauser gun sounds awesome! 😎 The first time I ever shot a shotgun was skeet with my grandmother’s Parker side-by-side. I shot sporting clays once with my father’s (now mine) 1960s Browning Sweet Sixteen A5 made in Belgium. It functioned flawlessly, but I just don’t want to risk dinging it up. I have the two 16s, several 12s, and a beautiful Beretta 686S over & under in 28 gauge. Never saw any need for 20 gauge.
I have a Remington wingmaster 16 ga 30in barrel no rib. Fixed modified choke grandfather bought it at k mart at 16 yrs old. Between him and my dad and myself it has killed thousands of doves and ducks I shoot it better than any other shotgun I’ve ever picked up. Never jammed one time and the action is slick as glass
I have 12's and a 20 and I would love a quality 28, but a 16 has never crossed my mind as getting ammo for it in the US really sucks after about mid-70's. Of course here we are and its making waves again. If I am gonna add another gauge to the collection, I have an uncontrollable urge for a 28! I love my O/U's and when it comes to hunting with a shotgun, they are the ones I reach for first. There is just something about the fit, feel and balance in a O/U that words in the English language just cant quite describe fully. I kick myself in the A$$ everyday regretting I didnt get my SKB 686 in a 4 barrel set instead of just a 12 gauge when I started shooting Trap and Skeet!!! If I could only own two gauges it would be 12 and 28, hands down. I only own a 20 in a Model 12 becuase I inherited it...
I love the 16 gauge, I have a bolt action and a breach action in 16. I would love a side by side but it's definitely more difficult to find ammo for them across the board where I live. I ended up buying a 20 gauge side by side Bob white g2 as a recent purchase and it's a beauty but I really want and will eventually purchase a nice 16 side by side and may just need to convert to hand load on that side to fuel my ammunition.
I have one. I prefer making 12 ga buckshot though and that's it's one low point. Most load #4 buck in the 16, because you need to avoid close to stacked bore diameter. Also it's a lot more expensive to shoot and many places have little to none of it on the shelves. I keep mine because it was my Great grandfathers barn gun.
I almost exclusively use 16 ga for ruffed grouse and rabbits. I have a nice 12 ga and .410 bore but I always wind up grabbing one of my single shot 16s they are just too good haha
Terry Wieland pointed out a 12-gauge 1-ounce load in a modern plastic wad.... is same as a 16-gauge muzzleloader, where square load comes from. Luftwaffe Drilling was 16x16x9.3x74R.
Awesome podcast, I love the cartridge talks. Every time I listen I learn more and end up wanting a new gun. I'd love to see a cartridge talk about the .222 Rem, which was my first rifle. In Ryan's opinion, is it a lead balloon?
Im never giving up my 12 guage pump, but i would like something smaller for game and sport use but a dont like 20 gauge. 16 would be perfect, and i do plan to grab a Browning Sweet 16 at some point.
My brother gave me a deer slayer in 16, but years later he wanted back. When he died a few years ago it was nowhere to be found . I'm 68 now and sorly wish I new it was was where
Unfortunately regarding the 16 it is the same situation in Sweden as in US. For no good reason it has fallen out of fashion here, and shells are sparse on the shelves. However we still has quite a few very nice old 16 gauge drilling floating around that is a bargain compared to similar in 12 gauge (and definitely 20 gauge). But how can you not just love a century old 16-16- 7x57R ?
I’ve owned a couple 16 gauges through the years. one single shot and one semi auto both rough guns I picked up on deals. Then had people that ended up wanting them more than me and they both found new homes. I liked the gauge but it just didn’t do anything my 12’s or 20 couldn’t.
Jim, we are weird ass birds of a feather. I also count the syllables in words as people speak. Literally wore out my canines by counting with them to ensure sentences had an even number of syllables. Nice to know I’m not alone in this bizarre behaviour… anyway, yah the 16 ga. All good! 🤦🏼
Actually , I see this gauge as a good balance between , too big and too small , BUT its most suited to being a hunting , combo gun , ie shotgun barrel & rifle barrel over & under .
A watch tells time, something the cell phone in your pocket already does. A shotgun, even if theyre fancier than need be, cant be replaced by your cell phone.
14:28 This year, I will be hunting alone with a bow. Occasionally with a friend. Next year, I will be bringing some sort of shotgun for support. I live in British Columbia. We do have GRIZZLY bear, along with cougar and black bear. All of which live near our town seasonally at least. So very much in the backyard public land, when deer and moose hunting. So I will be looking for a shotgun. Being in Canada, I haven't found the same broad selection of over under pairings. That said, if I could get a 16 or 20 gauge shotgun, potentially paired with a small game Ballistic round. Perhaps something suitable for coyote. (many people use 22lr for coyote?) I would feel as if I have one support for anything the bow is less suited for. That said, if I could get a deer cartridge over a bear gauge under I'd be very happy. I suppose that's one purpose for shotgun buckshot and slugs. Versatility. Would you feel confident, versus Black Bear or Bison, With a 16 gauge?
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The wife overheard me listening to this episode and was giving me the stink eye and said, "You don't hunt, you don't need a new shotgun"...😂 you guys are getting me in trouble.
Get her a sweet 16!
Time to take up hunting!
So she's saying you need to hunt... that's what I heard.
I barely hunt as well never hurt anything but my wallet with guns.
Grandpa got a Winchester 1200 in 16 when he turned 14 years old.
When I turned 14, he handed it down to me. Kills everything I point it at, and everyone I’ve allowed to shoot it immediately begins their quest to buy their own 16. I’m super stoked to see big channels talk about the 16, let’s solidify its place in the mainstream.
Awesome dude!
Oh man, I learned to shoot clays as a young kid on my grandpa's 16 gauge model 1200 too. There's such an emotional connection to the gauge now that he's been gone for almost two decades. I think of him often when I'm out hunting with a 16.
"Drilling" is in fact pronounced as you did initially, i.e. as you would read it as an English word. You are correct though, that the German word for 3 is "Drei", which you also pronounced correctly. We appreciate the effort! Keep up the good work. Greetings from Germany.
My grandpa's gun of choice was a late 50s 16 gauge Wingmaster, he was a big pheasant hunter in upstate NY. I'll be taking it out for squirrels this weekend. When I was a kid at one point it was all I had for deer hunting.
My wife gave me a 16ga Jc Higgins bolt action for our first Christmas as a married couple and I have to say I love it! The 16 does everything I need it to and it not too much gun to carry for hours in the field.
The TISM that Jim expressed about wanting a 16 ga and counting syllables. I appreciate it
I absolutely love the 16 guage and for all the reasons the Jim was explaining when he was explaining a legacy watch. My granoa taught me to shoot clays on a model 1200 in 16 guage and the gun is still in the fanily to this day.
I bought my wife an ithica model 37 feather weight in 16 gauge shortly after we were married so she could hunt with it. I think I paid less than $200 for it but it's by far my favorite shotgun we own purely for the uniqueness of the bottom feed/bottom eject action and for it being a 16 guage.
Thank you for doing an episode on this ”lead ballon” haha it was super fun.
Absolutely in love with my browning sweet 16. Carries and points beautifully and clobbers doves and pheasant. No 12 gauge needed!
The gun makers hated the 16 gauge... why not sell the public a 20 gauge AND a 12 gauge?! $$$$$$$$$$$
We can't fix stupid 😂
And a 4-10
First off, nice to see you guys talking smoothbores! I have two 16’s; my dad’s A5 Sweet from the late 60’s and my maternal grandfather’s model 12 from the 40’s. The comparison to quality mechanical watches is spot on with quality firearms. If you want to just have a smoke pole, the 870 is standard edition. If you want to just tell time from your wrist a Timex carries the load. Lastly, the 16 is to shot guns that the 25-06 is to rifles for me.
I love my 16ga Wingmaster. First gun I ever shot, still holds a special place in my heart.
I recently 'inherited' my dad's 16 ga. Remington 1100, it has a 30" non-ribbed barrel with a fixed Improved Cylinder choke. He bought it new in 1968, the year before I was born, and it was his dedicated Dove gun. He's 82 now and hasn't been on a Dove shoot in more than a decade but it still cycles shells just fine, although now it favors a little heavier shot load.
I have a Browning Sweet Sixteen that I've had for 58 years. My dad gave it to me for Christmas when I was 11 years old. I can't imagine the number of cases of shells fired thru that shotgun. This was small town South Carolina and you could carry your shotgun on the school bus and put the gun in the corner of the classroom. I would go out to a friend's
farm or he would come out to my farm. We shot dove, duck, quail, and deer. I have two barrels. 26" IMP and 28" Mod. The shotgun cost $198 back then. We kept 2-3 bird dogs, pointers and setters. We also hunted on horseback in those days. Those were the good ole days.
I had an old Ithaca 16ga SxS I sold earlier this year. I love the cartridge and it was a beautiful gun that had just been refurbished when I bought it, but the stock dimensions didn’t fit me at all so I didn’t shoot it well. Don’t regret getting rid of it for that reason, but I would like to find another 16 SxS, an old LC Smith would be the top of my list
I have 4 of them; Remington 31 skeet, Ithaca model 37, (2) Remington 870. Love the ol 16!
In 56 years of hunting, my all-time favorite dove and quail gun is the Ithaca 37R 16 guage with an improved cylinder.
My best friend in high school had a 16 gauge Mossberg bolt action with a C-Lect choke on it. It was common back in 1972 to see bolt action shotguns, double barreled shotguns, and single shots in 16 gauge back then. The 20 gauge took over the 16 gauge slot with American hunters. When I was stationed in Germany, the 16 gauge competed with the 12 gauge in popularity. I have picked up an old Winchester single shot in 16 gauge and about four boxes of shells.
My dad’s has always loved his Ithaca featherlight 16 gauge!! Many of grouse , doves and rabbits and chukars have been taken by his!! Really enjoy these talks great podcast
Had 2 an 870 and a single shot loved them both sorry I sold them because of divorce but was just recently given an Ithaca side by side in nickel finish that I plan on taking out for the first time for pheasant this weekend. Great show as always keep up the good work!!
Have an Ithaca 16 and love it !
Me too. A Featherweight Model 37 pump. Its butter smooth.
I bought a 37 featherweight for my wife years ago for almost nothing. Such a cool gun with the factory engraving on both sides of the receiver. It's one of my favorite guns I own.
Jim, holy crap! I thought I was the only one who counted syllables and words! Any team jersey I buy, I always got #16 for that exact reason, always counting words and syllables in fours, and it always feels cleanest at 4 by 4 to get 16.
My grandfather gave my uncle his military issue Winchester 1897, 16g, takedown pump action. When I learned about it 10 years ago, I had a difficult time finding shells for it.
We had some single shot 16ga back in the 70s that were our go-to shotguns for everything from whitetails to turkeys to squirrels. Then the ammo ran out. Granted, we also used 20ga for everything, too. 12ga was a little big for squirrels but these days, if you're using steel, you kind of need a 12ga to reach up to the tops of some of the pecan and oak trees around where I grew up.
After listening to this podcast I decided to look and see if my favorite shotgun came in a 16 gauge. It’s the Browning BPS, to my dismay 😩 I instead find out that browning has discounted all models of the BPS😢… I believe that the BPS at least deserves a ten minute talk… and you are the gentleman to do it. Don’t let me and all the BPS lovers down.
Love the talk, always interested in 16 but with 3" 20 gauge shells available and virtually no 16 gauge to be found in my area the 20 and 12's get the nod. Mark @37:54, a couple years ago I would have agreed with you completely but after buying a really nice shotgun from an older gentleman he once said "it's a shame I didn't hunt with it much, it's a tool and something that nice should get used." that has stuck with me. Don't be afraid to enjoy nice things with you can.
My very first...a vintage Sauer & Sohn side-by-side in 16 gauge, a former collectors item...I love it! Feels perfect.And 16 gauge supposedly (!) patterns better than the equivalent load in 12 gauge.
They're really stepping up the game today. Not content with the usual 30 minutes, this #10minutetalk turns out up to 42 minutes. Also, 16ga is absolutely the perfect shotgun gauge.
With all the new heavy shot options the 28ga is the gun that needs to come back!
My grandpa was all in on the 16ga. I inherited a Browning auto5 and 16ga Ithaca.
I recently got a winchester model 12 16 gauge, after my grandpa passed last year
Now i wanna hear y'all talk about the 28 gauge grouse gun!
Amen! 28 gauge is fantastic for quail too.
@@chipsterb4946 I bet it would be! I really want to get one for Kentucky. We have a decent population of bobwhite here as well as ruffed grouse and some woodcock. Would be perfect for all of them!
My 2nd shotgun was a Remington 870 16 ga. that I grew to love much more than my 1st the 12 ga. 870. Before my father passed he gave me his Remington Model 11-48 16 ga. another great 16 ga. shotgun. I agree with Ryan whole-heartedly that the 16 ga. is the perfect pheasant gun. While I've used the 16 ga. for ruffed grouse and other upland game, now days whenever I am headed to the field for pheasants one of these 16 ga. shotguns are in my hand. The most versatile ga. in my opinion.
Inherited my dads browning 16 gauge 30 years ago,always been outstanding upland bird gun and taken many a rabbit and squirrels with it over the years.
I would love it if you guys made a full video on the 224 valkyrie. I think it's a very underrated cartridge. You guys have mentioned it in other videos but never in much detail
The 224 valkyrie is pretty much dead an buried the new latest an greatest has killed it off
A case study on how NOT to launch a new cartridge. Base it on an odd size case that never took off. Rush it to market and fumble the initial bullet offering. Cause confusion with chamber specs and roll out bad reamers. Give it an obscure name. Hard to overcome all that. I have it in a bolt gun and am a fan. And I agree it is fading fast. Saw the writing on the wall and saved all my fired brass. Great idea, lousy execution. 22ARC should be the final nail in the coffin.
DOA. Over hyped, underperforming for accuracy. Surprisingly I still find a small section of .224 Valkyrie at Scheels.
@@waynemayle865You are in luck. It is the topic of the next Led Ballon talk!😂
#leadballoon
I've thought about it a lot. I went into a Cabela's about 3 years ago and saw a Browning Sweet Sixteen. Man it was a beautiful gun. Not many have stuck with me like that. I have list of future acquisitions and that's on the list.
On the way home from SD as I’m listening to this. My grandpa passed on a 16 gauge 870 to me when he passed. I’ve killed a few pheasants with it. Thanks for the podcast
Hello boys, my Illuminati influenced rear brain is all in on the ho-hum return of the 16g. A Browning A5 magically appeared in my safe one day and managed to spawn 3more sxs’s within a year. You have to admire the color purple(16’s common case color) in order to be a part of the club. Also, I used to wear a watch but found myself looking at my phone for the time. The watch now resides next to my 12 gauge. Thanks for the show and the laughs.
Kevin
Loved hearing about the 16. One of my favorites.
Please consider the 41 magnum
I just picked up a 1924 Browning sweet 16!
Thanks for talking about the 16 guys. It's my personal favorite. I shoot a bolt action mossberg 190KB. Best 50 bucks I ever spent. Even frilled and tapped it for a scope so it shot slugs effectively.
PS Mark buy a 16 or a 28
Absolutely my favorite gauge. Remington Model 31 in 16ga made in 1934. My favorite pheasant gun.
Tim Walz has a 16 gauge that has never been fired... or loaded.
.....or bought.
Fabulous episode. I own three. A side x side, an auto and a pump.
Great show! When I think of Vortex, I think of rifle scopes and pistol optics. Shotguns are my first love in firearms. I love new and old shotguns alike. My sixteen gauge is an old Remington 11-48. It's not incredibly valuable, but it was the arm that took my first turkey on my dream property.
While y’all were primarily focused on birds and small game, many people use shotguns for hogs and deer. Especially those in the southeast. We actually use dogs to run deer in SC. One of the most popular shotguns is the Belgium Browning A5’s. From the std 12 to Light Twelve to std 16 to SweetSixteen. The 16 is extremely popular because the A5’s for some reason hold a great pattern of buckshot. My dad used his SweetSixteen from 1959 to 2011 when I gave him a Belgium A5 Light 12. While there are light semiautomatic 12’s, many people still trust the 16 because of its smaller frame when walking through thickets. Keep in mind, our idea of thickets is wwwwaaaayyyyy different than many areas of the country. Our thickets, if you can see 10ft, it’s fairly open.
Oh man that 16/16/8 Mauser gun sounds awesome! 😎 The first time I ever shot a shotgun was skeet with my grandmother’s Parker side-by-side. I shot sporting clays once with my father’s (now mine) 1960s Browning Sweet Sixteen A5 made in Belgium. It functioned flawlessly, but I just don’t want to risk dinging it up. I have the two 16s, several 12s, and a beautiful Beretta 686S over & under in 28 gauge. Never saw any need for 20 gauge.
You should also check out the 28 guage as well.
I have a Remington wingmaster 16 ga 30in barrel no rib. Fixed modified choke grandfather bought it at k mart at 16 yrs old. Between him and my dad and myself it has killed thousands of doves and ducks I shoot it better than any other shotgun I’ve ever picked up. Never jammed one time and the action is slick as glass
I have 12's and a 20 and I would love a quality 28, but a 16 has never crossed my mind as getting ammo for it in the US really sucks after about mid-70's. Of course here we are and its making waves again. If I am gonna add another gauge to the collection, I have an uncontrollable urge for a 28! I love my O/U's and when it comes to hunting with a shotgun, they are the ones I reach for first. There is just something about the fit, feel and balance in a O/U that words in the English language just cant quite describe fully. I kick myself in the A$$ everyday regretting I didnt get my SKB 686 in a 4 barrel set instead of just a 12 gauge when I started shooting Trap and Skeet!!! If I could only own two gauges it would be 12 and 28, hands down. I only own a 20 in a Model 12 becuase I inherited it...
I picked up a Franchi Infiniti SLX in 28ga a few years ago. Great gun. I am very happy with it.
"Big swinging shotgun "...😂😂😂
Nobody introduce Ryan to gunbroker. I've actually seen a couple drillings on there.
I love the 16 gauge, I have a bolt action and a breach action in 16. I would love a side by side but it's definitely more difficult to find ammo for them across the board where I live. I ended up buying a 20 gauge side by side Bob white g2 as a recent purchase and it's a beauty but I really want and will eventually purchase a nice 16 side by side and may just need to convert to hand load on that side to fuel my ammunition.
Much love. Look forward to training with you guys and meeting you all. ύπερνίκαω
Love every episode..you guys could talk about wheel barrels and it would be great video to watch!
I have one. I prefer making 12 ga buckshot though and that's it's one low point. Most load #4 buck in the 16, because you need to avoid close to stacked bore diameter. Also it's a lot more expensive to shoot and many places have little to none of it on the shelves. I keep mine because it was my Great grandfathers barn gun.
The numerology proves it! 16 gauge is the chosen!
Vanity piece 🤣. Best answer ever. I agree with u lol
Got a win 97 in 16 and it’s my favorite but I’m big on 20s as well. Not a big 12 fan, my biggest dust collector
I almost exclusively use 16 ga for ruffed grouse and rabbits. I have a nice 12 ga and .410 bore but I always wind up grabbing one of my single shot 16s they are just too good haha
Terry Wieland pointed out a 12-gauge 1-ounce load in a modern plastic wad.... is same as a 16-gauge muzzleloader, where square load comes from.
Luftwaffe Drilling was 16x16x9.3x74R.
Love it! MORE shotgun content and PLEASE don’t get rid of spaghetti shootout!!
Awesome podcast, I love the cartridge talks. Every time I listen I learn more and end up wanting a new gun. I'd love to see a cartridge talk about the .222 Rem, which was my first rifle. In Ryan's opinion, is it a lead balloon?
My grandpa loves 16 gauge!
If you ever do a podcast without Ryan... I'M NOT WATCHING IT!!! Love ya Ryan!
give him a raise
I’ve come full circle and my flex is a nice H&R single shot.
We must be getting old when you get tired of tactical ars and appreciate the wood and steel simplicity of the break action shotgun more😂😂
16 ga was the only shotgun ammo available all through COVID around me and on the internets.
I like the 16 gage
So was this podcast before or after them comparing shot spread of multiple gauge sizes and types. They also compared chokes.
Im never giving up my 12 guage pump, but i would like something smaller for game and sport use but a dont like 20 gauge.
16 would be perfect, and i do plan to grab a Browning Sweet 16 at some point.
Have you guys done an episode on 28 gauge? Also you should do more range videos like the one you just did with 6arc!
There was a song written about the 16 gauge, Tennessee Ernie Ford.
My brother gave me a deer slayer in 16, but years later he wanted back. When he died a few years ago it was nowhere to be found . I'm 68 now and sorly wish I new it was was where
Unfortunately regarding the 16 it is the same situation in Sweden as in US. For no good reason it has fallen out of fashion here, and shells are sparse on the shelves.
However we still has quite a few very nice old 16 gauge drilling floating around that is a bargain compared to similar in 12 gauge (and definitely 20 gauge).
But how can you not just love a century old 16-16- 7x57R ?
I went to the shop for a 16g and found a driling gun that was 16x16 over a 22lr. Looked sweet, but it was too bespoke for me.
It’s tough to get any more iconic than a sweet 16 model 12.
I love 16 gauge I hava a French side by side Manufrance Ideal. It is the sickest shotgun I own 😍 it is light, efficient and it is very beautiful 🤩
I wear a watch, but all of mine are quartz. I also really like the 16 gauge.
I’ve owned a couple 16 gauges through the years. one single shot and one semi auto both rough guns I picked up on deals. Then had people that ended up wanting them more than me and they both found new homes. I liked the gauge but it just didn’t do anything my 12’s or 20 couldn’t.
I have an old Ithaca feather weight 16ga it's awesome to carry
When i was about 13 my dad gave me an ithica model 38 featherlight 16 ga. I have like 16 ga since that day.
make 16 gauge great again! i have one from my grandfather but shells are hard to find
10 gauge in modern high capacity pumps done "budget" and a 16. Should be the new standard🤞
My favorite gauge
Jim, we are weird ass birds of a feather. I also count the syllables in words as people speak. Literally wore out my canines by counting with them to ensure sentences had an even number of syllables. Nice to know I’m not alone in this bizarre behaviour… anyway, yah the 16 ga. All good! 🤦🏼
Must do the 10ga and 28 ga now
3 inch 20 gauge helped put pressure on the 16 gauge.
The reference to Joe Biden was perfect 😂
Love my 16 double have taken many rabbits with it
Savage has the 555 over under in 16 gauge. Under $800.
Actually , I see this gauge as a good balance between , too big and too small , BUT its most suited to being a hunting , combo gun , ie shotgun barrel & rifle barrel over & under .
I still own and hunt with my Remington 58 in 16 gauge!!!
A watch tells time, something the cell phone in your pocket already does.
A shotgun, even if theyre fancier than need be, cant be replaced by your cell phone.
14:28
This year, I will be hunting alone with a bow.
Occasionally with a friend.
Next year, I will be bringing some sort of shotgun for support.
I live in British Columbia. We do have GRIZZLY bear, along with cougar and black bear.
All of which live near our town seasonally at least.
So very much in the backyard public land, when deer and moose hunting.
So I will be looking for a shotgun.
Being in Canada, I haven't found the same broad selection of over under pairings.
That said, if I could get a 16 or 20 gauge shotgun, potentially paired with a small game Ballistic round.
Perhaps something suitable for coyote. (many people use 22lr for coyote?)
I would feel as if I have one support for anything the bow is less suited for.
That said, if I could get a deer cartridge over a bear gauge under
I'd be very happy.
I suppose that's one purpose for shotgun buckshot and slugs.
Versatility.
Would you feel confident, versus Black Bear or Bison,
With a 16 gauge?
The debate on tool watches vs shotguns @30:00 was the highlight of this video! Jim, we are standing strong with you sir!
No mention of the Ithaca model 37 while talking 16ga? Maybe I'm too old.
So what brand/model is Ryan’s “nice” shotgun?
As a millennial, I can confirm, bought my 16 gauge just to be different
The 16 Gauge is probably as close as one is likely to come to a do all shotgun caliber that don't overstay its welcome as to recoil.
Mark, "Sketch Artist"? -OR- " SKETCHY Artist"?
Never bring a watch to a shotgun fight -Mike Tyson probably